These situations are very common. I’m sure even in Cream’s era growing up her friends/associates or even herself at 14/16 were talking to older men in their early or late 20s, even 30 year olds. This problem is very common in almost every generation and too many people playing hypocrite about it.
That's why she jumped on the FAKE allegations, along with crusty cbiz from her endz who Wiley was calling out on his Instagram burner account at the time for doing the same alleged nastiness back in the day before social media was as big as it is to provide receipts 😷 IN REALITY, he was just salty dutchavelli was doing up a feature with one of his opps fredo, who also has the same historical allegations to his name aswell 💯‼️
@esho2279 nahhh it's TRULY 'weird' how accounts like yours😃 are eager to push the FAKE ALLEGATIONS💯 regardless of the police who are no fans of a six foot something blk man who was on licence at the time for an unrelated offence of armed robbery of a sort 🤐 stating the dm's WERE 'maliciously falsified' ‼️
Yo Dutch needs to come on RTM and chat to Spray cause I don’t see no one riding harder for him for an interview (Big Y) 😂😂 give the man his big break I beg
@@Fiddyscent what more do you want to see. A grown man was caught flirting with a child using voicenotes that we all heard and saw. If defending nonce is the hil you wanna die cos they can rap then so be it lol
@@esho2279Please explain rationally ,what was so bad about the 'voice-notes' 🤨 people try drag up because on their own to a non perverse projecting mind 🫠he's talking mundanely about his dog etc or this undeniable evidence would of got him arrested at the least for further questioning WHICH HE HASN’T BEEN 😃.p.s she still looks after his dog whilst he's away in dubai because its not something that needs hiding and his sister Steflondon has already said in her live, the 14 year old niece of his late manager, is like family to them ‼️
@Fiddyscent • That one is leaving multiple comments on here being a typical vindictive little shite stirrer under the guise of FAKE concern🙄,don't allow yourself to be dog piled by the victrieal💯. Because pretty much every faith warnes about bearing false witness against your fellow man, so these trolling bummy accounts need to be wise and worry about themselves 😗
@@tmad8518 the voicenotes are wrong because it’s a 14 year old child talking to a grown man about when he is ready to have kids, in a flirty manner. That’s tapped and if you can’t see that and you think that’s ok then God help the children around you.
@@ytkk539 he’s got time. He ain’t done no shows, no festivals, no bookings and had no features with any other relevant artist for the past 2-3 years now. He releases a tune every 6 months to a year. So yeah, he’s got plenty of time. Also, he should want to try to get some of his fans back and try to clear the dirt on his name, answer some of the hard questions that everyone has for him and attempt to get his career back to where it was going… that’s why he should come on RTM
The youngest he was linked to was Angel at 14, Teezandos the tomboy who looks 15, was linking him at 17 and the other pregnant ting from Dam was also 18 (when she was pregnant) meanwhile Dutch is nearly 30 🤮 Don’t believe the lies from these fake accounts trying to flood this page. It’s Marv on a burner acc, he’s a part time troll
Spray doesn’t know half the facts. Before I knew half the facts I was also in Dutch’s corner. Do some research and you’ll see why he ain’t done no shows or festivals or had any features from any relevant artist since the allegations. We all know how UK feds and judges don’t put these man behind bars so let’s forget all that “he ain’t in prison” talk. Bare man buss case esp when it’s an online ting like this and they claim they were “hacked” oldest trick in the book. The online safety bill which has finally been introduced will put a stop to this fkry soon
He’s been cancelled bro, where have you been? He was dropped by management, dropped by his label, dropped by most of his UK fanbase. He’s done no shows, no festivals and no features.
Rtm pod is gona blow up soon watch sprays on madness 😂 big up cream tho. These man been in the game long too u should listen to them once ina while uno
Are you the 14 year old niece of his late managers mother🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 because she literally said dutchavelli has never been alone with either of her daughters 💯 it's always in a family environment but the internet has a way of twisting things 🙃
Riiiiight including the girls own mother,who carried her for nine months and categorically stated that she would lay down her life for any of her kids 💯 and still openly supports him along with all her other children in reiterated the independent findings of the police that the narrative put out by the hacker they all knew and have cut off with access to his accounts at the time WASN'T TRUE 😃
You know what’s mad how is bouncer and spray wearing the same clothes they was in a previous podcast 2 years ago I thought I bugging until I checked weird
🤔 RTM Pls do a talk 🗣 on AGE GAP and what u think is appropriate 🤔 I'm upset with the girl in Croydon 14-15 with a 17 yr old boy. I personally have a problem with that 🤔 i don't no but you 2 sound like u have no daughter's 🧐🤔 for me girls Under-20 vulnerable and naive, especially the girls without Dad's Easy picking for the Harbour🦈 groomers 🤔 in my day REAL BAD man still had values and there was codes Which today there are none Free for all 🤔 like Woman/ children and others not involved = was a NO, GO And if you did u would lose your strips and ur own would turn on u There are standards and street cred 🤔 more RESPECT than FEAR RTM you have a platform and u can't be on the fence anymore Cause the system is broken and correcting 🤔 would you be a road BOY now 🤔😔🤯 NO cause it's to MAD out there So we can ONLY HELP/TEACH But to not DO or SAY 🤔 YOU are just HINDERING/PERPETUATING You ALL are Shepherd for the lost 🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑 👊🏾💗👏🏾💪🏾🔥🙏🏾
@Silkysmooth-qk5nc Your OPINION is irrelevant in the scheme of things, the authorities with the power to incarcerate him have ruled he is💯......so keep chitchating 😆
@@tmad8518 are those voice notes also my opinion? Look he didn’t get arrested because technically he didn’t do anything for them to charge him , but morally he did. I have noticed all his fans use the same narrative “he didn’t get charged” “go to the police” Like we don’t know how the law works…
@@Silkysmooth-qk5nc Please explain rationally ,what was so bad about the 'voice-notes' 🤨 people try drag up because on their own to a non perverse projecting mind 🫠he's talking mundanely about his dog etc or this undeniable evidence would of got him arrested at the least for further questioning WHICH HE HASN’T BEEN 😃.p.s she still looks after his dog whilst he's away in dubai because its not something that needs hiding and his sister Steflondon has already said in her live, the 14 year old niece of his late manager, is like family to them ‼️
Dictionary definition of a pedophile 📌 A adult attracted to PRE-PUBESCENT children 😷 so even if the Internet based allegations pertaining the 14 year old niece of his late manager, so no random minor either 🤨 were true WHICH EVERYONE PERSONALLY INVOLVED INCLUDING THE UK POLICE WHO EXPRESSED DUE DILIGENCE AND RETRIEVED THE ORIGINAL CONVERSATION THREADS THEMSELVES ‼️ and stated that the DM'S were 'maliciously falsified'💯 technically he still wouldn't fall into the vilest of category 🤓 and you are devaluing its importance by chucking it around so flaggerently for effect 😡 😠
🤔👏🏾🔥💪🏾 big Miss P 🤔Big man can i ask u a question You acting as a 🗣for him. If this was your young family member would u be coming with the same energy 🤔👎🏾 she is 14 A child ❤
The police RETRIEVED THE ORIGINAL UNDOCTORED CONVERSATION THREADS THEMSELVES ‼️ AND RULED THE DM'S WERE 'ALTERED WITH MALICIOUS INTENT' AND CLOSED THE CASE 💯 so it won't be seen under any judge/jury sir but its astounding how so many people don't even know the basics of this case😫
@@tmad8518fk the interview with Marv 😂 like that proved anything 2 years after the fact man was talking inappropriately to little girls. Get Dutch on RTM and see how he folds like a deck chair. Man can’t even defend himself because he’s so guilty
These situations are very common. I’m sure even in Cream’s era growing up her friends/associates or even herself at 14/16 were talking to older men in their early or late 20s, even 30 year olds. This problem is very common in almost every generation and too many people playing hypocrite about it.
That's why she jumped on the FAKE allegations, along with crusty cbiz from her endz who Wiley was calling out on his Instagram burner account at the time for doing the same alleged nastiness back in the day before social media was as big as it is to provide receipts 😷 IN REALITY, he was just salty dutchavelli was doing up a feature with one of his opps fredo, who also has the same historical allegations to his name aswell 💯‼️
Just cause something happened back in the day. That doesn’t make it right today. We’re big people who know right from wrong. So do what’s right init
Cream didn’t keep this same energy when monster Marv was on the show
thats the first thing i thought
💯
💯💯💯💯💯💯
Na that’s true u know
That’s cause they want the Dutch interview. Read between the lines people
‘Being called a nounce is worser than being called a SNITCH’ bouncers body language said it all lol 1.53-2.00mins
Big up creams she always keeps it real not like spray waffling tying to defend a pedo
This is why these kinds of allegations without concrete proof against man is dangerous, your gonna have man like yourself calling Dutch a pedo😂
Cream was wrong tho, this has all been explained with proof and you man are still chatting shit,
but why didn't cream come with this energy when marv was on the show!?
@@man---like--shauney9711 🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
@@troubz9what proof? You’re chatting wass
Big up Cream for speaking out against this nastiness. Any woman saying any different is tapped
Get Bouncer back on to address these snitch allegations 🤣🤣🤣
Its not allegations lol
@@outere24 true.. Bouncer said it himself
BIG UP CREAM REALER THAN MOST
Yes these guys are so desperate to allow a nonce its so weird
@esho2279 nahhh it's TRULY 'weird' how accounts like yours😃 are eager to push the FAKE ALLEGATIONS💯 regardless of the police who are no fans of a six foot something blk man who was on licence at the time for an unrelated offence of armed robbery of a sort 🤐 stating the dm's WERE 'maliciously falsified' ‼️
@@esho2279they just wanted to get the Dutch interview bro. Sprays on mindgames 😂
Big up Cream though for talking up the tings 🗣️
Y has this been re-uploaded again ?
Yo Dutch needs to come on RTM and chat to Spray cause I don’t see no one riding harder for him for an interview (Big Y) 😂😂 give the man his big break I beg
Spray built up a weird fanbase still these comments are mad
Big up this channel for keeping it real anyway
@@Fiddyscent what more do you want to see. A grown man was caught flirting with a child using voicenotes that we all heard and saw. If defending nonce is the hil you wanna die cos they can rap then so be it lol
@@esho2279Please explain rationally ,what was so bad about the 'voice-notes' 🤨 people try drag up because on their own to a non perverse projecting mind 🫠he's talking mundanely about his dog etc or this undeniable evidence would of got him arrested at the least for further questioning WHICH HE HASN’T BEEN 😃.p.s she still looks after his dog whilst he's away in dubai because its not something that needs hiding and his sister Steflondon has already said in her live, the 14 year old niece of his late manager, is like family to them ‼️
@Fiddyscent • That one is leaving multiple comments on here being a typical vindictive little shite stirrer under the guise of FAKE concern🙄,don't allow yourself to be dog piled by the victrieal💯. Because pretty much every faith warnes about bearing false witness against your fellow man, so these trolling bummy accounts need to be wise and worry about themselves 😗
@@tmad8518 the voicenotes are wrong because it’s a 14 year old child talking to a grown man about when he is ready to have kids, in a flirty manner. That’s tapped and if you can’t see that and you think that’s ok then God help the children around you.
its actually illegal for a 49yrold to deal with a 16year old check the law
As nasty as it,no it aint.Stop mudding up the people 🧠 with false information.
Cream didn’t have this energy for marv 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
💅
🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
Cause Cream is smart and knows that Dutch ain’t coming on RTM if she speaks her mind to Marv… use your brain people, read between the lines
@@NJ-tg3gf you think Dutch got time for rtm don’t kill me g
@@ytkk539 he’s got time. He ain’t done no shows, no festivals, no bookings and had no features with any other relevant artist for the past 2-3 years now. He releases a tune every 6 months to a year. So yeah, he’s got plenty of time.
Also, he should want to try to get some of his fans back and try to clear the dirt on his name, answer some of the hard questions that everyone has for him and attempt to get his career back to where it was going… that’s why he should come on RTM
A snitch defending a pedo and Sprays just catting for the Dutchavelli interview.
A snitch a Nonce and a Crackhead walk into a bar…
Hahahahaa facts
Facts ✅✅✅
Shout me called madder then most podcast
I don’t think he’s a nonce
Spray... how do we get in touch with your team/management?
Even 16 is still too young tbh.
The youngest he has been OFFICIALLY linked to is 18 years old, which is considered a adult in most western countries 🤓
The youngest he was linked to was Angel at 14, Teezandos the tomboy who looks 15, was linking him at 17 and the other pregnant ting from Dam was also 18 (when she was pregnant) meanwhile Dutch is nearly 30 🤮
Don’t believe the lies from these fake accounts trying to flood this page. It’s Marv on a burner acc, he’s a part time troll
My daughter is 17. Mek a man try ima watch rtm from jail.
Then who’s gonna protect her when you’re in jail nigga?
Careem speaking how a real one would speak any other chat is air
Trust me my gee
@@J36Y586Have you seen the RECENT interview they did with dutchavellis off again on again friend monster marv yet💅
Big up Quincy! He set the record straight on this snitch.
💯
Spray looks mad skinny
You'd look skinny too sat
next to Bouncer ya 🍩
Stop pree man.
Spray doesn’t know half the facts. Before I knew half the facts I was also in Dutch’s corner. Do some research and you’ll see why he ain’t done no shows or festivals or had any features from any relevant artist since the allegations.
We all know how UK feds and judges don’t put these man behind bars so let’s forget all that “he ain’t in prison” talk. Bare man buss case esp when it’s an online ting like this and they claim they were “hacked” oldest trick in the book. The online safety bill which has finally been introduced will put a stop to this fkry soon
DUTCH CAN NEVA BE CANCELLED, THIS CRAXY GIRL GOTTA BE WILEY SIDE TING 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He’s been cancelled bro, where have you been? He was dropped by management, dropped by his label, dropped by most of his UK fanbase. He’s done no shows, no festivals and no features.
grown men speaking like this LOL
Rtm pod is gona blow up soon watch sprays on madness 😂 big up cream tho. These man been in the game long too u should listen to them once ina while uno
Apa😊
Gwan Creme! Nuff man are too shook to say it for wat it is. Shouldve never been messaging a 14 year old, end of.
Bmt my drilla
Are you the 14 year old niece of his late managers mother🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 because she literally said dutchavelli has never been alone with either of her daughters 💯 it's always in a family environment but the internet has a way of twisting things 🙃
@@tmad8518 my g keep it stepping
@@J36Y586 naaaaaaah 😅,the truth shall prevail 💅‼️
100% 🎯 big up Cream for saying what everyone else was thinking
Too many people protecting a pedo is mad crazy
Riiiiight including the girls own mother,who carried her for nine months and categorically stated that she would lay down her life for any of her kids 💯 and still openly supports him along with all her other children in reiterated the independent findings of the police that the narrative put out by the hacker they all knew and have cut off with access to his accounts at the time WASN'T TRUE 😃
@@tmad8518 exactly my point, too many clowns protecting them. It's mad
@@krude-ck3wy You might be actually looking in the🪞 😬
3:49
C’mon that’s the bottom line. Shouldn’t be in no pickneys dm’z point blank period 🎯🗣️💯
This is an old clip
You dont say! Your a
sharp 1 int ya.
@@JayNubi I am mate I am indeed. Twat.
@@JayNubi😂😂
You know what’s mad how is bouncer and spray wearing the same clothes they was in a previous podcast 2 years ago I thought I bugging until I checked weird
Cos they wanted.Asking weirdo questions.Stop pree man.
🤫
🤔 RTM
Pls do a talk 🗣 on AGE GAP and what u think is appropriate
🤔 I'm upset with the girl in Croydon 14-15 with a 17 yr old boy.
I personally have a problem with that
🤔 i don't no but you 2 sound like u have no daughter's
🧐🤔 for me girls Under-20 vulnerable and naive, especially the girls without Dad's
Easy picking for the Harbour🦈 groomers
🤔 in my day REAL BAD man still had values and there was codes
Which today there are none
Free for all
🤔 like
Woman/ children and others not involved = was a NO, GO
And if you did u would lose your strips and ur own would turn on u
There are standards and street cred
🤔 more RESPECT than FEAR
RTM you have a platform and u can't be on the fence anymore
Cause the system is broken and correcting
🤔 would you be a road BOY now
🤔😔🤯 NO cause it's to MAD out there
So we can ONLY HELP/TEACH
But to not DO or SAY 🤔 YOU are just HINDERING/PERPETUATING
You ALL are Shepherd for the lost 🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑
👊🏾💗👏🏾💪🏾🔥🙏🏾
Insightful
Did you not see the recent interview with Dutchavelli's on again off again friend Monster marv yet???
But he is a nonce
Why we still trying to defend him?
Please take your pound land OPINION to the police WHO HAVE CLEARED HIS NAME ALREADY 😴
@@tmad8518 dam you sure convinced me he is innocent ….🤷🏾♂️😂…..how silly of me to think otherwise
@Silkysmooth-qk5nc Your OPINION is irrelevant in the scheme of things, the authorities with the power to incarcerate him have ruled he is💯......so keep chitchating 😆
@@tmad8518 are those voice notes also my opinion?
Look he didn’t get arrested because technically he didn’t do anything for them to charge him , but morally he did.
I have noticed all his fans use the same narrative “he didn’t get charged” “go to the police”
Like we don’t know how the law works…
@@Silkysmooth-qk5nc Please explain rationally ,what was so bad about the 'voice-notes' 🤨 people try drag up because on their own to a non perverse projecting mind 🫠he's talking mundanely about his dog etc or this undeniable evidence would of got him arrested at the least for further questioning WHICH HE HASN’T BEEN 😃.p.s she still looks after his dog whilst he's away in dubai because its not something that needs hiding and his sister Steflondon has already said in her live, the 14 year old niece of his late manager, is like family to them ‼️
Discussing a pedophile with a snitch ain't a good look 😂
Dictionary definition of a pedophile 📌 A adult attracted to PRE-PUBESCENT children 😷 so even if the Internet based allegations pertaining the 14 year old niece of his late manager, so no random minor either 🤨 were true WHICH EVERYONE PERSONALLY INVOLVED INCLUDING THE UK POLICE WHO EXPRESSED DUE DILIGENCE AND RETRIEVED THE ORIGINAL CONVERSATION THREADS THEMSELVES ‼️ and stated that the DM'S were 'maliciously falsified'💯 technically he still wouldn't fall into the vilest of category 🤓 and you are devaluing its importance by chucking it around so flaggerently for effect 😡 😠
LOl cream is a gangsta
Have you seen the RECENT interview with Dutchavellis off again on again friend Monster marv yet💅
@@tmad8518 yeah
🤔👏🏾🔥💪🏾 big Miss P
🤔Big man can i ask u a question
You acting as a 🗣for him.
If this was your young family member would u be coming with the same energy
🤔👎🏾 she is 14
A child
❤
Saints row
I wanna hear what the judge and jury say.
The police RETRIEVED THE ORIGINAL UNDOCTORED CONVERSATION THREADS THEMSELVES ‼️ AND RULED THE DM'S WERE 'ALTERED WITH MALICIOUS INTENT' AND CLOSED THE CASE 💯 so it won't be seen under any judge/jury sir but its astounding how so many people don't even know the basics of this case😫
There was no court case, feds gave the case to social services
Big up ice 💯💯
Have you seen the RECENT interview with monster marv yet💅
@@tmad8518 Cream energy changed when Marv was in her face 😂😂😂
@@tmad8518fk the interview with Marv 😂 like that proved anything 2 years after the fact man was talking inappropriately to little girls.
Get Dutch on RTM and see how he folds like a deck chair. Man can’t even defend himself because he’s so guilty
Cream the realist....if you see this cream please wear open toe sandals more...bless up
Man using RTM Podcast as p0rnhub……………..mind games!
Did you not see the recent interview with Dutchavelli's on again off again friend Monster marv yet???
Weirdo....
Not too sure about the open toe sandles part but yeah big up Cream with the realist talk
@@NJ-tg3gf 😂🤣
Straight up grass
No good
Supporting snitches
What has the world come too
Nonces are worse. Plus Bouncer was a kid, let’s all grow up abit