Lets be honest about the Surefire brand. Their flashlights are the best and the anodized finishing is second to none. I own a lot of Surefire flashlights. From the C2 Centurion to the most resent flashlights such as the R1 LAWMAN Fury DFT and so on. Where Surefire was lagging was exactly at the very thing you are mentioning. Surefire is one of the last companies to equip their flashlights with 18650 rechargeable batteries as most of their flashlights use CR123 and were getting a lot of criticism for not being up to date. The other two good USA made flashlight makers, Streamlight and Pelican have more flashlights out there with 18650. The Chinese brands took advantage of the 18650 and newer 21700 rechargeable batteries. I think this is the reason brands such as Olight, Fenix, Klarus, Nitecore, Truenite got popular.
18650???? That’s old news. Look up the 21700 battery. Most high end flashlight take these now. Malkoff just came out with a 21700 battery tube that uses 18650 heads. Long runtimes better power density. Surefire just got onto the 18650 and there already behind. I love surefire lights but they need to keep up better.
surefire is really late to adopt things, 26650 and 21700 won’t be available by then for another 5 years at least.. can’t really fault them though cause they truly wait for things to be proven before they trust your life to them. they stuck with cr123 for the soul reason that they’re dependable.
21700 its just a bigger li on battery. It doesnt mean its better than 18650. It depends on the aplication. For edc i rather have a 14500 or a 18650 flashlight than a 21700 cause of size, you can hardly put a 21700 flashlight in your pocket.
Which flashlight would you guys choose if let’s say you get lost in the woods and need the best “illumination/battery life” balance posible, 3 hours seems to short
@@mynamesnotimportant6941 he's really not though. sure, you would benefit from having a smaller admin light for certain tasks, though if you're lost in the woods, you should be doing most everything by the light of your fire anyway, and should be focusing on your shelter and how you're going to maintain your energy (food) as opposed to trying to run around in the dark dicking around. Unless of course, you're trying you maintain a low profile, in which case, chances are you're either running NV or some sort of light that's less likely to give away your position, but I digress. Having grown up in the countryside, and specifically done my own kind of low light training, I can tell you that your eyes will adapt to the darkness, and save for a certain few tasks that might require a little more visibility, you'd be just as well off not burning through your light source. moreover, these are not 'survival' lights, these are tactical/combative lights, meant for PID, and disorienting a threat, not trying to fashion a shelter. there's a reason I carry a small, cheap, AAA led light in addition to my surefire. one is a dedicated defensive light, the other is for whatever other random crap I might need a light for at any given time.
Surefire is a great company and all. Their products are top notch. However, I see two negative points. One being the lack of batteries types and compatibility. And two they are overpriced
I'd been waiting for surefire lights to accept rechargeable batteries for years and so have other ppl that they've had to make mods in order to allow surefires to take them. Sure they're built well, but you can get similar quality with better modes, brightness, runtimes, features for a lot less. Do yourself a favor and checkout Fenix and Acebeam if you want reliability and dependability.
18650's have been around for a long time now. This is old news. These Surefire Tactical Fury flashlights are stupid expensive. You can get the same (wuben c3) for about $30.
I use to think the same thing. But you don't get consistent performance with those cheap lights. You will actually get 3.5 hours of 1,500 lumens with these lights. Cheap lights step down in power because they get too hot. They also break easily.
@@alrbredwall you are right with quality but this Surefire will not last 3.5hrs on 1500 lumens, it will last about 3.5mins before stepping down. Surefire have good build quality but their technology is drastically behind the competition.
@@happyknife8785 mine does not appear to step down but I have also not left it running for 3 5 hours straight to test this. I might do a video on This and test it against some shitty light that claims it has better technology.
i agree with you that the Olights are great, have a few myself.. but the reason people buy these lights are that they’re extremely reliable and rugged really the only lights that our service men/women would reach for when their lives depended on it. also Olight has a 5 year warranty where as Surefire is lifetime, so there is a large initial cost but you truly only have to buy the light once and you’ll have it with you till you die (also they will replace faulty lights that aren’t in production anymore with the current models so you upgrade for free)
Have you tried putting the rechargeable 18650 battery into one of the other two older lights? Surprise. Any flashlight that takes two cr123 batteries can use one 18650 battery it's been that way forever you're welcome
Not all have the same diameter inside and some are not big enough for the 18650 battery tho they’ll accept two CR123 as they’re slightly smaller diameter!
You're very behind the times and badly ill-informed 1- Surefire do not make powerful lights in comparison to many other companies 2- Surefire have not changed the game with the rechargeable 18650, they are extremely late to the game and competetors have already moved on 3- Surefire are nothing unique in running off both 18650 and Cr123, many brands did this years ago 4- Surefire do not make the worlds best lights, they are very far behind these days, once upon a time yes 5- You're wrong on Surefires 1500 lumens, all lights including Surefire drop down, it DOES NOT run 1500 for 3.5hrs it will last about 2-3mins 6- 18650's are the future??? You made me laugh with this one, they're being fazed out mate, 21700 are taking over, 18650's have been around for a long time.
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Lets be honest about the Surefire brand. Their flashlights are the best and the anodized finishing is second to none. I own a lot of Surefire flashlights. From the C2 Centurion to the most resent flashlights such as the R1 LAWMAN Fury DFT and so on. Where Surefire was lagging was exactly at the very thing you are mentioning. Surefire is one of the last companies to equip their flashlights with 18650 rechargeable batteries as most of their flashlights use CR123 and were getting a lot of criticism for not being up to date. The other two good USA made flashlight makers, Streamlight and Pelican have more flashlights out there with 18650. The Chinese brands took advantage of the 18650 and newer 21700 rechargeable batteries. I think this is the reason brands such as Olight, Fenix, Klarus, Nitecore, Truenite got popular.
18650???? That’s old news. Look up the 21700 battery. Most high end flashlight take these now. Malkoff just came out with a 21700 battery tube that uses 18650 heads. Long runtimes better power density. Surefire just got onto the 18650 and there already behind. I love surefire lights but they need to keep up better.
surefire is really late to adopt things, 26650 and 21700 won’t be available by then for another 5 years at least..
can’t really fault them though cause they truly wait for things to be proven before they trust your life to them. they stuck with cr123 for the soul reason that they’re dependable.
I feel they are overpriced sometimes
21700 its just a bigger li on battery. It doesnt mean its better than 18650. It depends on the aplication. For edc i rather have a 14500 or a 18650 flashlight than a 21700 cause of size, you can hardly put a 21700 flashlight in your pocket.
It was sarkasm. At the end he did say that they are 10 years late.
Which flashlight would you guys choose if let’s say you get lost in the woods and need the best “illumination/battery life” balance posible, 3 hours seems to short
cary a few extra batteries is what i would do
@Brandon Pausta you sir are terribly confused :)
@@mynamesnotimportant6941 he's really not though. sure, you would benefit from having a smaller admin light for certain tasks, though if you're lost in the woods, you should be doing most everything by the light of your fire anyway, and should be focusing on your shelter and how you're going to maintain your energy (food) as opposed to trying to run around in the dark dicking around. Unless of course, you're trying you maintain a low profile, in which case, chances are you're either running NV or some sort of light that's less likely to give away your position, but I digress. Having grown up in the countryside, and specifically done my own kind of low light training, I can tell you that your eyes will adapt to the darkness, and save for a certain few tasks that might require a little more visibility, you'd be just as well off not burning through your light source. moreover, these are not 'survival' lights, these are tactical/combative lights, meant for PID, and disorienting a threat, not trying to fashion a shelter. there's a reason I carry a small, cheap, AAA led light in addition to my surefire. one is a dedicated defensive light, the other is for whatever other random crap I might need a light for at any given time.
If you are lost in the woods, all you need is not the brightest mode you have. 15lumens is actually bright enough for you to walk around with
Did you just say that surefire came up or introduced the 18650?
Lol he did in fact, sure fire was so late to the game the game changed while they were just getting into it. Sure fire sure sucks
As well as the USB charging on the battery.
@@caldwell5078 surefire is the equivalent of internet explorer.
Surefire is a great company and all. Their products are top notch. However, I see two negative points. One being the lack of batteries types and compatibility. And two they are overpriced
"Littlier" 😂. Thanks for your vid. Just waiting for my 4 SF Fury DFTs to replace my 4 SF Fury.
Midwest for sure. Sounds like Wisconsin.
I bought the Fury Intellibeam DFT, loving it!
How well does the light adjust if u just need a little bit of light to read something
Does it come with one or two 18650s?
One
Disappointing
i just ordered a edcl1t last night
Wheres the pocket clip?
I'd been waiting for surefire lights to accept rechargeable batteries for years and so have other ppl that they've had to make mods in order to allow surefires to take them. Sure they're built well, but you can get similar quality with better modes, brightness, runtimes, features for a lot less. Do yourself a favor and checkout Fenix and Acebeam if you want reliability and dependability.
close to as good quality yes, but not quite up there ;)
Can you use the rechargeable18650 battery with the Surefire Defender Ultra 1000 lumens flashlight?
No, it will not fit unless it’s bored out.
18650's have been around for a long time now. This is old news. These Surefire Tactical Fury flashlights are stupid expensive. You can get the same (wuben c3) for about $30.
I use to think the same thing. But you don't get consistent performance with those cheap lights. You will actually get 3.5 hours of 1,500 lumens with these lights. Cheap lights step down in power because they get too hot. They also break easily.
@Hagrid my po8nt is that it isxdrastically better performance than the 30 dollar flashlight mentioned in the comment before me.
@@alrbredwall you are right with quality but this Surefire will not last 3.5hrs on 1500 lumens, it will last about 3.5mins before stepping down. Surefire have good build quality but their technology is drastically behind the competition.
@@happyknife8785 mine does not appear to step down but I have also not left it running for 3 5 hours straight to test this. I might do a video on This and test it against some shitty light that claims it has better technology.
It was sarkasm. At the end he did say that they are 10 years late with the 18650ies.
My streamlight polytac x does the same thing
Unique style Mate
Great vid ! ! !
Get an Olight, don't have to take the battery out to charge it, Baton many others
Same thing I was thinking while watching
i agree with you that the Olights are great, have a few myself.. but the reason people buy these lights are that they’re extremely reliable and rugged really the only lights that our service men/women would reach for when their lives depended on it.
also Olight has a 5 year warranty where as Surefire is lifetime, so there is a large initial cost but you truly only have to buy the light once and you’ll have it with you till you die (also they will replace faulty lights that aren’t in production anymore with the current models so you upgrade for free)
If you are going out into the field or taking low light courses you don't want a light that you can't swap batteries out in.
@@alrbredwall you could theoretically do that for both, if anything 18650 flashlights are more capable being able to take RCR123 CR123 and 18650!
@@alrbredwall from my understanding you can swap batteries but you don't have to
It’s time to use candela not just lumen talking about lights.
Have you tried putting the rechargeable 18650 battery into one of the other two older lights? Surprise. Any flashlight that takes two cr123 batteries can use one 18650 battery it's been that way forever you're welcome
No you are wrong!
Not all have the same diameter inside and some are not big enough for the 18650 battery tho they’ll accept two CR123 as they’re slightly smaller diameter!
The larger battery definitely will not fit into those other two lights.
You're very behind the times and badly ill-informed
1- Surefire do not make powerful lights in comparison to many other companies
2- Surefire have not changed the game with the rechargeable 18650, they are extremely late to the game and competetors have already moved on
3- Surefire are nothing unique in running off both 18650 and Cr123, many brands did this years ago
4- Surefire do not make the worlds best lights, they are very far behind these days, once upon a time yes
5- You're wrong on Surefires 1500 lumens, all lights including Surefire drop down, it DOES NOT run 1500 for 3.5hrs it will last about 2-3mins
6- 18650's are the future??? You made me laugh with this one, they're being fazed out mate, 21700 are taking over, 18650's have been around for a long time.
It was sarkasm. At the end he did say that they are 10 years late with the 18650ies.
The failure rate of these other brands will be significantly higher.