@@Tigertime.-fj1soI’m an Aussie too, but can tell you these two are both legends of the game, although Pete Rose comes with a lot of controversy that has prevented him from being inducted into Baseball’s Hall of Fame.
He hit .296 Lifetime against Ryan . Hitting that is a tremendous feat in itself. .406 up to that point in time was tremendous. Koufax is a different story. A mere .175 or so.
No talk of his exit velocity or launch angle. Baseball used to be so much fun to watch. Now it’s a battle of which team can get more solo homeruns than the other. They are lying to us when they say hitting got average is out because it’s too hard to move runners station to station with modern pitchers. Total BS. The theory that guys are throwing harder today than they used to is because they measure the speed of the pitch closer to when it’s released than home plate, where it used to be measured.
Pete Rose was a living blueprint for how a baseball player should play the game. Ignoring the gambling and parts of his personal life, Pete Rose should, without question, be in the Hall of Fame.
I used to love to watch these guys battle as a kid. All the Reds were my favorites. As a kid in New Mexico who only saw what was on tv and the Reds were on ALL the time because they were so good. Three Hall of Famers on that team and we all know it should be 4.
@@rickwelch8464 i remember collecting baseball at maybe 7 or 8 and thinking this is so unfair. The reds have all the all stars. Big red machine was incredible. And people forget guys like george foster...a monster!
@mbrum3230 Yes mbrum , I totally agree !!! Foster was a beast !!! In those days , he and Bench were really about all in the way of " long ball " hitters , the Reds really had.. I mean the other guys could hit for power also , so don't get me wrong, but not consistently , or in clutch. I remember watching them pitching to Bench once , and they had lost him in the count , so they decided to put him on. We'll, ole Johnny wasn't having any of it lol.. he stepped up and out over home plate ( I'm sure in today's and maybe then as well rules, were no doubt broken lol ) and slapped the ball over the right corner field, for a 3 run homer, that won the game for them lol... you don't forget those games and the players, who played them..!!! Man how I loved my Big Red Machine bk then , and still do today..I'm 67 and I have Topps and other name brand cards from the early 60's, that have never been touched. Have all the " Big Red Machine " rookie cards...lol. anyway, my best memories of baseball, without a doubt...!!! Hagd my friend, and thank you for bringing back some of my best memories, EVER..! 😀😀
@@Jerry-ej3cmi was actually a philly kid so when we got rose i went from hating him to loving him. Great foster quote when questioned one time about corked bats "i dont have cork in my bat i have steel in my arms"
@@Jerry-ej3cmNothing will ever touch the talent or the memories of the Big Red Machine. Griffey, Jr. and Larkin were close in the 2000s, but by then Larkin was pretty much done. There are some young power hitters coming up through the pipeline. Maybe if they can pair that with these two good young arms, and a third with the Dayton Dragons, maybe there’s some hope for the Reds to rise to prominence again yet.
In Detroit back then there was only 1 “Game of the Week” where you could see other markets. We were able to catch the Expos on a weak signal all the way from Montreal Canada. The NL and AL didn’t play each other back then until WS. Wild days.
Except that *Dave Stieb* was better, and could have struck out Pete Rose with only 3 pitches if they had ever met. (Always gonna get that out there because MLB did their best to hide him from American fans.)
Few of things struck me. 1. Generous Ump on some of those 2. Ryan was pitching on 3 days rest and did it all the time which is amazing by standards today 3. Rose was a 400 hitter lifetime vs Ryan which is absolutely amazing
Nolan had to be taken out of his final MLB game due to injury. His final pitch was clocked at 98 mph. With a torn ligament in the elbow of his pitching arm... 😳
@Brain Mistrust So... over 320 victories. Over 5700 strikeouts. And EIGHT!! No Hitters don't measure up for you? You're all hung up on 100 mph..? Hope I just completely missed your sarcasm...
Much has been said about Nolan, but to talk about Pete Rose, I know he ruined his reputation, but before all that mess, he was one of the greatest pure baseball players of all time. No one ever had more passion for the game. I personally don't like him, and don't think he should be in the HoF because of what he did, but on the field, he was Mr Baseball. Such a shame to see such a phenomenal career wasted.
100% agree with your assessment that Pete Rose was Mr. Baseball. He hasn't played the game in over 30 years but if you mention Charlie Hustle to any baseball fan, they will know you mean PR. I disagree about him being in the HoF. We are all sinners. The Hall should be about baseball, scars and all.
Pete Rose should be in the hall of fame hands down no argument from anyone. The baseball writers association is a joke. Time to rely on the actual players to vote players in not a bunch of nerds who never knew how to play baseball to begin with.
@@jeanluc1313 He's got the league record in strikeouts, a .524 winning percentage, and a World Series Champion. Ryan filled stadiums. Like Babe Ruth did - who led the league in home runs and strikeouts as a batter. Ryan and Ruth had a charisma that few players ever had or will have.
@@MichaelBoyd-eq5ts Exactly. Most career strikeouts, which everyone knows. Besides the K’s and winning 300 games (324 - he also lost 292), he was never the best pitcher in any years he pitched. We’re talking about accomplishing things that matter, not filling stadiums. And don’t compare Ryan to Ruth 😅 Ruth was one of the greatest players of all time. Ryan doesn’t even crack the top-25 pitchers of all-time. And his WS was as a 22 year-old relief pitcher who appeared in 25 games for the Miracle Mets - hardly adds much to the résumé.
Yes Indeed 💯 Agreed & I totally forgot that Keith called baseball. I was sure every Saturday afternoon I could count on Mr. Jackson would be calling the Main College Football Game in ABC, usually at high noon here in California, when I was attending UCLA I would try & be at the game usually, but watching Mr. Jackson call the NCAA Football Games, Luuuuved My Saturdays🏈🏈👏👏
That's the widest plate ever. Those 3 strikes were 2 inches off the corner. However 1) that's a great pitcher that knows where the umps strike zone is. 2) Pete knows his strike zone and if he didn't swing it wasn't a strike. That being said pete knows better, that was called a strike at least once this at bat so it ain't a strike but you gotta swing anyway. Love the cut up 2 greats.
I thought the first pitch was a strike. And when you have 2 strikes on you, you're taught to swing at something that close... Ball or strike, you gotta use the bat. Pete looked like he wanted to walk.
The greatest player in the game today takes that same intensity into every at bat and every pitch thrown. When Shohei walked in the WBC final, he yelled out, releasing his intense focus so that he could shift his focus to running the bases. He does the same thing when striking out a batter. At the same time, he tips his cap if he hits a batter and is the most polite player on the field, compromising not a single ounce of his competitiveness. He can run faster, hit farther, and throw harder than 99% who ever played the game. UNREAL!
All the greats had that consistent 100% intensity on every pitch, shot, throw, or whatever. Whether it’s Rose, Jack Nicklaus, Michael Jordan, Jimmy Connors, etc, etc.
These were the days when you went to the park to watch Nolan break a record and Pete break a record in the same season. Tried so many times to see Pete with Cincinnati break the hit record in both Riverfront and Three Rivers. Two living legends of the game.
This entire playoff year was so awesome. I ditched my homework everyday after school to watch these games. Over in the junior league the Royals were battling the Evil Empire with my sister’s hero George Brett. She had his poster on her wall for many years. I believe this was the first World Series appearance for the Phillies and the Royals. An all astro-turf series. Speed was such a factor. Just a great time before the roid era.
Peter Rose crouched down like I did when I was 8 years old playing little league. I never struck out, had 2 doubles and the rest walks...batted 1000...:)
I really enjoy the sports announcer saying,..."you know he's poison." Talking about Rose.(B.T.W. sounds like Keith Jackson to me) Brings back memories watching Ole Charlie Hustle vs The Ryan Express.
@@enigma9971 much tougher, their prima-donnas today, fucking little league pitcher's making tens of millions of dollars to try and pitch 6 innings, like, WTF!
I've already said it, and I'll say it again. Nolan Ryan is a genetic freak. He certainly is an exception because no one playing now could physically perform what he did in his heyday or in his mid-40s. The legendary Satchel Paige is the only other pitcher in the same league genetically.
Correction: four of the best! The analyst alongside Keith Jackson was one of the all-time greatest pitchers in Don (Big "D") Drysdale. The Dodgers great went between working ABC sports and calling the California Angels (before a stint with the Chicago White Sox) then coming back home to L.A. R.I.H. Big D.
I'm a St. Louis boy, born n raised since 1974 and as big as the Cardinals are here it was Nolan Ryan who captured my imagine. He was my favorite by 1982 and I modeled my wind-up after his as I pitched until my high school years. Pete Rose was my favorite non-pitcher for how he played the game. 🐢
I’m with U I saw him once by chance. Went to see him pitch against the tigers with the Church my family attended. And by chance, I mean I was dollar short but my Sunday School Teacher took pity on me (he knew why) & “make it ok”. Well, needless to say Nolan Ryan throws a NO HITTER. What N unbelievable talent. Many Blessings All 🙏🇺🇸
I hope one day Pete is forgiven for being human. No matter what you think of him. He was one of the best to ever play. I'm thinking he was the last player/manager. We all know Ryan was a beast!
@@williamdelong4861 I'm thinking he's done this. It's been 30 yrs but I seem to remember some kind of news deal. LoL if it was that important I would look it up
Pete Rose was so stooped over when he batted. Probably the greatest hitter in MLB history. I believe he should he allowed in the HOF. He’s served his time.
The 1980 NLCS was one of the best National League Championship Series of all time. If you are a baseball fan like myself it is one series i highly recommend watching, even though it is already 43 years old it still is up there with the best of all time.
I watched it as a 12 year old Philly kid. The previous several years the Phils had come up short against LA in the playoffs. Yes, was full of drama and a lot of the greatest players of the era. Every game was tight. Every at-bat mattered. Schmidt, Bowa, Matthews, Boone, McGraw, Rose. A lot of the greatest names on the Phils' all time roster. So much talent.
1981 NLCS LA Dodgers Vs Montreal Expos. Best of 5. A won the series 3-2. Game 5 ninth inning home run by LA won the series. Expos were very close to going to the World Series
Other than 1 high pitch, Nolan was only going to throw pitches that Rose could connect on, but not be able to put in play. That’s respect! Pete was masterful with ball choice. You’d assume that a guy who has hit more balls than anyone, that he would most likely be swinging on a full count. He didn’t bite on that fast ball tailing away to the right Pete was the best. He didn’t intimidate you with his power but he had an aggressiveness, intensity and prescience at the plate that was intimidating. He was the biggest battle a pitcher was going to face. He made you work. He used patience because he knew the more pitches he made you throw at him, the more likely he’d get to see a good one.
I was so very fortunate to have witnessed both of these Gentlemen playing in my youth.. I tip my hat to them both as they influenced a young boy to accell in every facet of my life 🤠..I believe MLB commissioner Bart G. was wrong with his decision.. rest peacefully Mister G. ..🌹❤️
The date: June 11th, 1990. The place: Fort Sill Oklahoma. The time, approximately 2100 hours. I was in the day room watching Nolan Ryan pitch for the Rangers, against the A's. My bunk mate told me we should probably hit the rack because we had an early start in the morning. I didn't want to, because I saw Ryan was pitching very well. I turned it off anyway. Went to bed, woke up in the morning to find out that I missed Nolan Ryan pitching his sixth no hitter. 😬. Thanks a lot, PFC Pronge 😡
When I played baseball as a youth, I would only slide like Pete Rose. He was probably my favorite player in those days. He should be in the HOF or just close the thing down.
@@StreakingTiger same here. I always went headfirst because of Pete and many times into home. I also loved to dragbunt down the first base line and dive into first, not slide, dive. Just like Charlie Hustle.
...its a compliment if ever there was one....of epic heights to a man named Rose who's productivity on the plate is and was a legendary problem for the other side.....whom he as a player: Has so many mosts, at bats, hits, doubles, 4 hit games, and it goes on and on and on and on. HARDLY being s*** on... If anything, withheld from the HoF because if nothing else criminal in recent past decades....too much of a mans man and we can't be having that in girly upside down amuricuh...
It looks funny today, of course. View history through the context of the time, instead of through a modern lens. But seriously...those are some ugly ass unis😄
@@hegemonycricket2182 Good point. I was a product designer. I know these things. But traditional never fails when it comes to sports uniforms. That's why Alabama always looks good. That's why Auburn makes orange and blue look better than anybody in America for fifty years. That pattern was a fad. Following fads is foolish and short sighted.
@@hegemonycricket2182 Exactly. Those uniforms were probly a marketing gimmick maybe got some short lived benefits. To be fair Astros wanted a modern look I get that. It's not easy.
If ABC had it, Jackson called it. Wide World of Sports, some NBA with Bill Russell, and even a couple Indy 500s and and stock car races. And a bunch of Olympics...heck, in 72, he called a Mark Spitz race, then the next day was doing news reports about the massacre there in Munich....and in no way felt out of place in a non-sports role. The man was incredible.
@@davidharrison3711 Yeah, McKay was incredible, too. Not that any sports announcer would want the opportunity to step into that scenario, but few would have had the gravitas to approach those two...and none would have been better. Feels icky to write "opportunity" and "better", but I'm hoping the tenor of my thoughts come through. Then again, I'm no McKay or Jackson.
I live in the middle of California and have always had loyalty to Oakland . Many years ago we got a chance to ride a party bus up to Candlestick to see the Astros play the Giants . Not being a Giants fan , but being a huge Nolan Ryan fan it was a natural fit . It was action wise one of the boringest games I had ever seen , because Ryan just had one of his great days of so many he had. That day he damm near pitched a no-hitter by 1-hitting the Giants as Houston won 1-0 Ryan was a freak of nature to begin with and a force of nature on the mound . That good ol boy from Texas was firing 100 mph fast balls and no hitters and one and 2 hitters well into his advanced playing years. After seeing him I was blown away. All you could hear coming from the field was this,,,,, POP!”””…. …. POP!”””…. ….. POP!”””…. ….. POP!”””…. ….. POP!”””…. ….. his pitches just abusing the catchers mitt. About every 10th Giant batter that came up would break the routine by fouling a pitch back behind them into the stands and after that it was back to POP POP Amazing ! .
@@AlphanumericCharacters not true. He pitched a ton of innings and had real good era seasons., he just wasnt always on good teams. I wouldnt put him in my top 5 but he was great pitcher.
Rose committed a flagrant violation to the game, should he be let in the hall to make it the hall of shame, I rather see shoeless get in, he seemed ignorant of what he got into
@@ronondechek14 Aradolis Chapman holds the Guinness world record for the fastest MLB pitch at 105.1 from 2018, Ryan's fastest he was ever clocked at was 100.5, where in God's name did you come up with 108? Sounds like your getting primed, LoL!
Pete Rose stood very far away from the plate to the outside of the box. He was basically giving Nolan Ryan the outside. Rose was able to cover the outside due to being such a great hitter at going the other way. He probably never thought the umpire was going to give Ryan that outside strike. Due to a couple of calls early in the at-bat I expected Rose to move up in the box a little bit. He did not and that cost him the at-bat.
Ryan wasn't going to give him anything over the plate or inside. The fact that everything was high and outside shows alot of respect for Charlie Hustle.
Even the umpire helped out, by making home plate extra wide. And, probably, Pete's letters extra high too. Ryan's walk ratio was embarrassing and MLB probably gave him a bigger strike zone as a matter of policy. You do what's good for business, and it's good business to give your superstars and marquee names all the breaks. Over his career, Ryan averaged more than 4.5 walks per nine innings pitched came close to one walk for every two strikeouts. He walked eight batters in one of his seven no-hitters. He never threw a perfect game.
Watched Ryan pitch 92 mph ball live many times against the Padres at Jack Murphy Stadium. Also, saw Pete Rose head slide into 2nd several times. He was at Caeser's Autograph shop 7 years ago. Missed him by two minutes. Ozzy Smith was probably the best player I've ever seen live. Fricken' acrobat!
@@FLoCk3r the only thing that I remember where people got excited Flock was when Clemens was facing Josebag Canseco in a playoff game Oakland against Boston, but big difference, Josebag was on the roids, Clemens was not at that time, but like a fool he started on them later in his career and that's why he's not in the Hof
@@josephsimmons9241 I don't, too many Prima Donna's and it's consumed by greed, owner's, agent's, player's, Mike Trout is a great hitter, but it's overall a boring game to watch now
Here's a part 2 if you want to check it out!
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Being Australian I don't know a lot of the pitchers but that pitcher looked awesome. Is he won of the legend's of the game.
Very much
6 pitches six balls..😅😅😅😅😅😅
He's the best pitcher ever. No question about it.
@@Tigertime.-fj1soI’m an Aussie too, but can tell you these two are both legends of the game, although Pete Rose comes with a lot of controversy that has prevented him from being inducted into Baseball’s Hall of Fame.
Hitting .406 lifetime vs Nolan Ryan is so impressive it ridiculous. 👍
It really is 🔥
There was also 8 walks, so his obp was even better. He knew how to work the count against Ryan until he found a hittable pitch or 4 balls.
@@Phil-ui4tm I cant even imagine , way to much heat. Incredible they can think about the strike zone with lazer beams coming at you.
He hit .296 Lifetime against Ryan . Hitting that is a tremendous feat in itself. .406 up to that point in time was tremendous. Koufax is a different story. A mere .175 or so.
Ty Cobb hit .366 lifetime against everybody. Charlie Hustle hit all of .303.
That strike zone was enormous.....
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Enormous? Like letters to ankles and within the plate?
That's baseball, dude.
Not this modern run-generating zone.
Welcome to the good ole days! I commend the umpire. Umpires are there to get outs, not safe calls. 😂
@E M your two cents have been noted...
No ads. No graphics. Just pure baseball. Good old days.
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I was thinking the same thing
So much better.
@@rizwanarasheed I came here to say the same thing!
I like the big empty space behind the plate.
No talk of his exit velocity or launch angle. Baseball used to be so much fun to watch. Now it’s a battle of which team can get more solo homeruns than the other. They are lying to us when they say hitting got average is out because it’s too hard to move runners station to station with modern pitchers. Total BS. The theory that guys are throwing harder today than they used to is because they measure the speed of the pitch closer to when it’s released than home plate, where it used to be measured.
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Pete Rose was a living blueprint for how a baseball player should play the game. Ignoring the gambling and parts of his personal life, Pete Rose should, without question, be in the Hall of Fame.
I learned one thing from this video. Boy do I miss Keith Jackson announcing College Football. Whoa Nelly
Yess
Oh yeah! None like him… ever!
I am 71 he eas college football and what ever he announced. He was the GOAT.
Hold on to your horses.
@jaketanner20001 definitely the GOAT 🐐
That ump was very generous with that high outside corner. Could easily been a walk.
Probably should have been
That first pitch should've been a strike
Absolutely. The plate grew by 2" on that 3-2 pitch.
@@ottohesslein3230 it did 😆
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I used to love to watch these guys battle as a kid. All the Reds were my favorites. As a kid in New Mexico who only saw what was on tv and the Reds were on ALL the time because they were so good. Three Hall of Famers on that team and we all know it should be 4.
@@rickwelch8464 i remember collecting baseball at maybe 7 or 8 and thinking this is so unfair. The reds have all the all stars. Big red machine was incredible. And people forget guys like george foster...a monster!
@mbrum3230 Yes mbrum , I totally agree !!! Foster was a beast !!! In those days , he and Bench were really about all in the way of " long ball " hitters , the Reds really had.. I mean the other guys could hit for power also , so don't get me wrong, but not consistently , or in clutch. I remember watching them pitching to Bench once , and they had lost him in the count , so they decided to put him on. We'll, ole Johnny wasn't having any of it lol.. he stepped up and out over home plate ( I'm sure in today's and maybe then as well rules, were no doubt broken lol ) and slapped the ball over the right corner field, for a 3 run homer, that won the game for them lol... you don't forget those games and the players, who played them..!!! Man how I loved my Big Red Machine bk then , and still do today..I'm 67 and I have Topps and other name brand cards from the early 60's, that have never been touched. Have all the " Big Red Machine " rookie cards...lol. anyway, my best memories of baseball, without a doubt...!!! Hagd my friend, and thank you for bringing back some of my best memories, EVER..! 😀😀
@@Jerry-ej3cmi was actually a philly kid so when we got rose i went from hating him to loving him. Great foster quote when questioned one time about corked bats "i dont have cork in my bat i have steel in my arms"
@@Jerry-ej3cmNothing will ever touch the talent or the memories of the Big Red Machine.
Griffey, Jr. and Larkin were close in the 2000s, but by then Larkin was pretty much done.
There are some young power hitters coming up through the pipeline. Maybe if they can pair that with these two good young arms, and a third with the Dayton Dragons, maybe there’s some hope for the Reds to rise to prominence again yet.
In Detroit back then there was only 1 “Game of the Week” where you could see other markets. We were able to catch the Expos on a weak signal all the way from Montreal Canada. The NL and AL didn’t play each other back then until WS. Wild days.
I was at this game!!!! It was a little league trip where all our teams did a caravan to see this game. Such a cool memory!
That is awesome
Pete Rose belongs in the Hall of Fame.
Agreed
Agreed
He got what he had coming
I think there is way more to the story and you hardly hear anyone talk about it. They just dismiss him as the guy that bet on baseball
Than tell him to apologize to MLB and mean it, the commissioner told him to apologize but he wouldn't do it
That was not a strike. Nolan is a Legend. But so is Charlie Hustle
Why did he put so much effort pitching around a singles hitter?
@@cifey why? Cause Peter Rose is one of the best hitters of all time. Pete was a Natural Wizard when he got on that Field.
Pete gave the ump a wink to call it a strike cause he bet himself Nolan would k him , Charlie Hustle got a pay day on that at bat
@@cifeyPride? Two masters of the game.
Anything less than a K would have been a disappointment to Ryan.
Ryan kept hitting his spot.
Nolan Ryan was the Greatest MLB Pitcher to ever play the game !!! Legend !!!!
Please tell me you’re joking, or trolling
@@GabrielEddy Uh, no.
Craig Grebeck and Ozzie Guillen liked him a lot, too. They weren't home run hitters by any means, but they hit back-to-back homers off of Ryan.
I'm not sure I would put Nolan even in the top 20 but at least in the top 50
Facing the greatest hitter.....epic
Was waiting for Pete to charge the mound after that call… Would’ve been worth the price of admission.
@@davemoskot1776 can't do that, It's not Ryan's fault that he thru pure gasoline!!! I love to watch these old clips.. MANO A MANO!!
Nolan on the mound, Pete at the plate & the big'Ol Georgia boy on the mic, can't beat that 💪😉
Definitely all in all Greatness
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Except that *Dave Stieb* was better, and could have struck out Pete Rose with only 3 pitches if they had ever met.
(Always gonna get that out there because MLB did their best to hide him from American fans.)
@@taekwondotime Sure, sure he could 😂
@@Slinger43 Dave Stieb was so good he could have struck out Pete Rose with only 2 pitches instead of the usual 3. 😇
2 Legends, this was the golden age of baseball in my opinion.
Yes fun ro watch
For sure. I witnessed JR Richard pitch in person as a kid at the Astrodome back 1979. Only pitcher that could match Ryan's velocity IMO
Agreed. I saw Nolan pitch several times as a kid in the 90s with the Rangers. We would show up expecting to see a no-hitter every time.
@@meandeanb And he was in his 40s doing that. GOAT
@@blackflag4093 now that would have been something. I'd like to have been alive to see him pitch.
Pete Rose should be a hall of famer. Batting 406 against Ryan is crazy.
@@tyetyson4611 nah Pete's a jabroni. He's a disgrace for what he did. Gambling and such.
This is how baseball should always be, no fans playing on phones or tablets, just there enjoying a good game😊
Few of things struck me.
1. Generous Ump on some of those
2. Ryan was pitching on 3 days rest and did it all the time which is amazing by standards today
3. Rose was a 400 hitter lifetime vs Ryan which is absolutely amazing
Drawing 8 walks from the stud Ryan. Best hitter all time. Best pitcher all time.
All the repercussions of candyassing these modern pitchers made the game unwatchable for me. Ryan, Pedro, Maddox, Clemons, Morris...Those were men.
Your watching at an angle.
Far from being best pitcher all time.
The last time a pitcher threw and won a complete game during the world series did so on two days rest.
Nolan had to be taken out of his final MLB game due to injury. His final pitch was clocked at 98 mph.
With a torn ligament in the elbow of his pitching arm... 😳
Dude was nuts
Phenom does the man absolutely no justice. Not a bad boxer either. The head lock and numerous upper cuts were beyond epic.
His coaches overused him. He wasn’t even 45, and he had already thrown 5000 innings. No wonder he couldn’t reach 100mph!
@Brain Mistrust So... over 320 victories. Over 5700 strikeouts. And EIGHT!! No Hitters don't measure up for you? You're all hung up on 100 mph..?
Hope I just completely missed your sarcasm...
@@wisecracker1814 you definitely missed my sarcasm. 😁
Loved watching Nolan Ryan and JR Richard’s pitch
@@chuckbrown2765 Had we still had JR, Astros would have been at least 3x WS Champ. JR was a BEAST on the mound. Damn stroke!
Much has been said about Nolan, but to talk about Pete Rose, I know he ruined his reputation, but before all that mess, he was one of the greatest pure baseball players of all time. No one ever had more passion for the game. I personally don't like him, and don't think he should be in the HoF because of what he did, but on the field, he was Mr Baseball. Such a shame to see such a phenomenal career wasted.
100% agree with your assessment that Pete Rose was Mr. Baseball. He hasn't played the game in over 30 years but if you mention Charlie Hustle to any baseball fan, they will know you mean PR. I disagree about him being in the HoF. We are all sinners. The Hall should be about baseball, scars and all.
Should 💯 % be in H.O.F.
Pete Rose should be in the hall of fame hands down no argument from anyone. The baseball writers association is a joke. Time to rely on the actual players to vote players in not a bunch of nerds who never knew how to play baseball to begin with.
@@Jeff-66 Agreed. Wow, hey isn't Bonds in the hall? Wait a sec..., so being dirty ( roids') isn't a bad as gambling🤔🤔🤔!?!
Gambling is bad, for the game. With that being said, it was never proven Rose bet to lose, only to win. All-in-all, it's not nearly as bad as, PEDs.
Watching Nolan Ryan pitch is something to behold! Talk about speed and ball movement! One of a kind, for sure!
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Killer....Pete didn't even attempt to swing...bye bye😂😂😂
But never won a Cy Young in 27 seasons and also holds the records for Walks
@@jeanluc1313 He's got the league record in strikeouts, a .524 winning percentage, and a World Series Champion. Ryan filled stadiums. Like Babe Ruth did - who led the league in home runs and strikeouts as a batter. Ryan and Ruth had a charisma that few players ever had or will have.
@@MichaelBoyd-eq5ts Exactly. Most career strikeouts, which everyone knows. Besides the K’s and winning 300 games (324 - he also lost 292), he was never the best pitcher in any years he pitched. We’re talking about accomplishing things that matter, not filling stadiums. And don’t compare Ryan to Ruth 😅 Ruth was one of the greatest players of all time. Ryan doesn’t even crack the top-25 pitchers of all-time. And his WS was as a 22 year-old relief pitcher who appeared in 25 games for the Miracle Mets - hardly adds much to the résumé.
Rose hit .406 lifetime against Ryan at this point? That's testimony to how great a hitter he was personified!
Exactly
He definitely is in the hall of fame in my book!!!
Didn't it say .412?
Yes but it was also before Ryan was at the top of his game too.
All three of those strike calls were untouchable. Two of the all-time greats. Pete needs to be in the Hall of Fame.
I went to Cooperstown for Nolan Ryan's inauguration. Also George Brett, Robin Yount and Orlando Cepeda. It was a huge event. I'll never forget it.
Nolan Ryan on the bump, Rose at the dish, Jackson on the call. Doesn't get much better than that.
I love keith jackson but mel allen was my all time favorite
Only if Angel Hernandez would’ve been calling balls and strikes
All three of those called strikes were balls
Angel Hernandez calling balls and strikes?
Yes Indeed 💯 Agreed & I totally forgot that Keith called baseball. I was sure every Saturday afternoon I could count on Mr. Jackson would be calling the Main College Football Game in ABC, usually at high noon here in California, when I was attending UCLA I would try & be at the game usually, but watching Mr. Jackson call the NCAA Football Games, Luuuuved My Saturdays🏈🏈👏👏
Nolan is the man. None of those are strikes tho. Lol
Love Nolan 🔥
Except maybe the first ball lmao
love your response totally agree with both assessments
That's the widest plate ever. Those 3 strikes were 2 inches off the corner. However 1) that's a great pitcher that knows where the umps strike zone is. 2) Pete knows his strike zone and if he didn't swing it wasn't a strike. That being said pete knows better, that was called a strike at least once this at bat so it ain't a strike but you gotta swing anyway. Love the cut up 2 greats.
I thought the first pitch was a strike. And when you have 2 strikes on you, you're taught to swing at something that close... Ball or strike, you gotta use the bat. Pete looked like he wanted to walk.
2 legends. Rose vs Ryan. This is when pitching and hitting was an art...
Love it...
This is legendary beyond measure..
Two of the greatest players to ever put on the uniform
Amen to that. 😊
I'm guessing a couple of those pitches must have sounded like strikes. 😏😏😏
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Now that’s hilarious. I agree with you 100%.
😂😂😂😂😂 he didn’t see them
Watching Nolan Ryan pitch live is something to behold. I could hear that ball screaming 😱!!!!!!!!🔥🔥
Thanks for this. Such a great series.
That 3rd strike call was super generous to the pitcher.
Yep
Perhaps the UMPIRE was betting on the game, too!
@@davidharrison3711 or he had a plane to catch.
3-2 count anything close gets called a strike. Been that way since T ball
T-ball doesn't have a pitcher!
That ump must have been from Texas.
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See my comment above 😂!
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True classic baseball!!! Thanks for sharing.
Mr. Ryan is a man of extraordinary character and generosity! I am honored to have met him and his family!
Man, you could see Pete’s intensity in his stance and how he reacted after each pitch.
That guy lived to play the game at 100% every pitch.
Yes he did Rose was amazing
@@FLoCk3r They dont make ball players like ol Charlie Hustle anymore
Depends which team he beted on
The greatest player in the game today takes that same intensity into every at bat and every pitch thrown. When Shohei walked in the WBC final, he yelled out, releasing his intense focus so that he could shift his focus to running the bases. He does the same thing when striking out a batter. At the same time, he tips his cap if he hits a batter and is the most polite player on the field, compromising not a single ounce of his competitiveness. He can run faster, hit farther, and throw harder than 99% who ever played the game. UNREAL!
All the greats had that consistent 100% intensity on every pitch, shot, throw, or whatever. Whether it’s Rose, Jack Nicklaus, Michael Jordan, Jimmy Connors, etc, etc.
These were the days when you went to the park to watch Nolan break a record and Pete break a record in the same season. Tried so many times to see Pete with Cincinnati break the hit record in both Riverfront and Three Rivers. Two living legends of the game.
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And us poor folks could afford to go to.
You ain't kidding. $2 cheap seats . $2 Dodger dogs, $1 bag of peanuts, Lucky enough to see both play the game. @@aaron-dd5zr
2 legends! Thank you for posting this. Brought back memories ❤❤
Two of my absolute heroes goin at it💪 Nolan was a genius pitcher, he was definitely a student of the game. Hard to beat a guy like that.
Some of the greatest times in MLB history for sure.
I agree, but that last pitch was a ball
Two of the best to play the game.
Very true 👍
This entire playoff year was so awesome. I ditched my homework everyday after school to watch these games. Over in the junior league the Royals were battling the Evil Empire with my sister’s hero George Brett. She had his poster on her wall for many years. I believe this was the first World Series appearance for the Phillies and the Royals. An all astro-turf series. Speed was such a factor. Just a great time before the roid era.
Peter Rose crouched down like I did when I was 8 years old playing little league. I never struck out, had 2 doubles and the rest walks...batted 1000...:)
two of the best baseball players that ever lived Pete Rose Nolan Ryan
Absolutely
A true statement l
Amazing that one isn't in the hall
Miss this baseball, fast, quick action
Yes ❤️
It's called editing
No pitch clock necessary!
I get the point but just to clarify this video looks edited.
Nolan is such a legend . When baseball was baseball .
I really enjoy the sports announcer saying,..."you know he's poison." Talking about Rose.(B.T.W. sounds like Keith Jackson to me) Brings back memories watching Ole Charlie Hustle vs The Ryan Express.
Yup, it's Keith Jackson with Bob Uecker.
I don't care what anybody says you should be in the hall of fame Pete Rose
💯 agree
Wow, as a pitcher I want that ump! Not sure Pete could even reach those outside balls!
I know right 😆
Nolan Ryan was on a different level..man was throwing heat!
The man fired BBs from that thing the rest of us all call an arm. LEGEND OF LEGENDS.
I'd pay good money to listen to Keith Jackson read a menu. The absolute best in my opinion.
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Vin Scully
Vin Scully. The greatest. IMO
Keith Jackson for football Vin Skully for baseball Dave Niehaus and Harry Caray to get drunk with.
Whoa, nelly!😂😂😂
That is one helluva strike zone
Crazy right 😆
Yet a consistent strike zone.
It was absurd. Rose right not to swing. All balls.
Pete’s tenure with the Phillies was so underrated!! He doesn’t get enough credit like he should!
Back when baseball was great and these are 2 of the fiercest badasses ever to play the game
Nolan is a legend
He is. Wow so fun to watch
Stats aside. The attitude alone makes him a legend. Lol
@@playdiscgolf1546 yes it would 🔥
Yeah Nolan Ryan's a legend what about Pete Rose that 406 against Nolan Ryan that is a legend killer
Ryan got shelled in this game. 7 runs in 5 innings. Joe Niekro was their best pitcher that year.
3 days rest. Not an oddity for Ryan. Today's game. 5 days rest...not an oddity for everyone. Man was built different.
Yes he was
Five days rest and a pitch count, that's why you rarely see 20 game winners like you did in the Ryan era
Most rotations were 4 man back then
Men were tougher.
@@enigma9971 much tougher, their prima-donnas today, fucking little league pitcher's making tens of millions of dollars to try and pitch 6 innings, like, WTF!
Pete Rose is and always will be one of the greatest ball players ever. And to watch these 2 legends play in same game against each other is remarkable
This is when baseball was GREAT and truly America's game
I've already said it, and I'll say it again. Nolan Ryan is a genetic freak. He certainly is an exception because no one playing now could physically perform what he did in his heyday or in his mid-40s.
The legendary Satchel Paige is the only other pitcher in the same league genetically.
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I absolutely loved Pete rose as a kid. Played the game right. Also bet on the game 😂
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Loved him as a player except against my dodgers, but he was a shitty human being
Yes, but he bet to WIN.......BIG difference!
"if you haven't been struck out by Nolan Ryan then you're a nobody"
-Rickey Henderson
Thank you for posting! ❤
Rose, Ryan and Jackson. Three of the best!
Very good 👍
Absolutely!
Correction: four of the best! The analyst alongside Keith Jackson was one of the all-time greatest pitchers in Don (Big "D") Drysdale. The Dodgers great went between working ABC sports and calling the California Angels (before a stint with the Chicago White Sox) then coming back home to L.A. R.I.H. Big D.
Nolan is my favorite player of all time! Saw him play once for the Rangers as a kid. I was soooo excited.
Not a bad favorite player
I'm a St. Louis boy, born n raised since 1974 and as big as the Cardinals are here it was Nolan Ryan who captured my imagine. He was my favorite by 1982 and I modeled my wind-up after his as I pitched until my high school years. Pete Rose was my favorite non-pitcher for how he played the game. 🐢
....I have his Mets rookie card in mint condition
I’m with U
I saw him once by chance. Went to see him pitch against the tigers with the Church my family attended. And by chance, I mean I was dollar short but my Sunday School Teacher took pity on me (he knew why) & “make it ok”. Well, needless to say Nolan Ryan throws a NO HITTER. What N unbelievable talent.
Many Blessings All 🙏🇺🇸
First game I ever saw in person was watching him take a no-no into the 8th inning.
Pete Rose with an OBP above .500 with 41 plate appearances vs one of the greatest pitchers of all time. Crazy
One of the greatest hitters listen my fellow baseball fans 406 against Nolan Ryan I'm going to say it again he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame
No joke 🔥
@@FLoCk3r It is a joke that you think this guy belongs in Hall of Fame
@VA24541 it's a joke you don't now a days everyone is betting on sports and it's completely ok. Dudes stats alone should put him in there
I hope one day Pete is forgiven for being human. No matter what you think of him. He was one of the best to ever play. I'm thinking he was the last player/manager. We all know Ryan was a beast!
if he admits what he did was wrong asks for forgiveness
@@williamdelong4861 I'm thinking he's done this. It's been 30 yrs but I seem to remember some kind of news deal. LoL if it was that important I would look it up
Me too😅😅
He wouldn’t have broken the hit record if he had been unable to write himself into the lineup.
He's already done this decades ago @@williamdelong4861
Pete Rose was so stooped over when he batted. Probably the greatest hitter in MLB history. I believe he should he allowed in the HOF. He’s served his time.
I am laughing so hard I can’t even watch the video!! Hearing the voices in the background is crazy funny! Thanks I needed a good laugh😂
The 1980 NLCS was one of the best National League Championship Series of all time. If you are a baseball fan like myself it is one series i highly recommend watching, even though it is already 43 years old it still is up there with the best of all time.
I watched it as a 12 year old Philly kid. The previous several years the Phils had come up short against LA in the playoffs. Yes, was full of drama and a lot of the greatest players of the era. Every game was tight. Every at-bat mattered. Schmidt, Bowa, Matthews, Boone, McGraw, Rose. A lot of the greatest names on the Phils' all time roster. So much talent.
I'm thinking a later NLCS with the Astros vs Mets in 1986. Phew!
1981 NLCS LA Dodgers Vs Montreal Expos. Best of 5. A won the series 3-2. Game 5 ninth inning home run by LA won the series. Expos were very close to going to the World Series
Other than 1 high pitch, Nolan was only going to throw pitches that Rose could connect on, but not be able to put in play. That’s respect!
Pete was masterful with ball choice. You’d assume that a guy who has hit more balls than anyone, that he would most likely be swinging on a full count. He didn’t bite on that fast ball tailing away to the right
Pete was the best. He didn’t intimidate you with his power but he had an aggressiveness, intensity and prescience at the plate that was intimidating. He was the biggest battle a pitcher was going to face. He made you work. He used patience because he knew the more pitches he made you throw at him, the more likely he’d get to see a good one.
Great comment 👍 thanks
Nolan Ryan definitely got the High outside calls. Both Players were some of the Greatest of All Time. When Baseball was Baseball.
De mis 5 lanzadores de la historia, El (expreso) Nolan Ryan es uno !,y por Rose tengo gran admiración!⚾⚾⚾
I would like to see the fireworks in today's game, with that strike zone.
Right lol
Lloyd Mclendon would dig out the plate and take it! lmao
@@playdiscgolf1546 😆 🤣
That was two strikes and five balls. Bonds, Rose and Clemons not in the Hall makes a mockery of baseball.
@@barrymiller99 Bonds doesn't belong. Look at his stats and build before steroids.
I was so very fortunate to have witnessed both of these Gentlemen playing in my youth..
I tip my hat to them both as they influenced a young boy to accell
in every facet of my life 🤠..I believe MLB commissioner Bart G. was wrong with his decision..
rest peacefully Mister G. ..🌹❤️
The date: June 11th, 1990.
The place: Fort Sill Oklahoma.
The time, approximately 2100 hours.
I was in the day room watching Nolan Ryan pitch for the Rangers, against the A's.
My bunk mate told me we should probably hit the rack because we had an early start in the morning. I didn't want to, because I saw Ryan was pitching very well.
I turned it off anyway. Went to bed, woke up in the morning to find out that I missed Nolan Ryan pitching his sixth no hitter. 😬.
Thanks a lot, PFC Pronge 😡
Great story thanks for sharing!
When I played baseball as a youth, I would only slide like Pete Rose. He was probably my favorite player in those days. He should be in the HOF or just close the thing down.
Definitely should be in the HOF
@@StreakingTiger same here. I always went headfirst because of Pete and many times into home. I also loved to dragbunt down the first base line and dive into first, not slide, dive. Just like Charlie Hustle.
These are two legends hard playing baseball,oh how I miss these old days of real baseball.
Me too
Love how the announcer came out the gate shitting on rose lol. "You know he's poison" Still one of the best to ever do it
...its a compliment if ever there was one....of epic heights to a man named Rose who's productivity on the plate is and was a legendary problem for the other side.....whom he as a player:
Has so many mosts,
at bats,
hits,
doubles,
4 hit games,
and it goes on and on and on and on.
HARDLY being s*** on...
If anything, withheld from the HoF because if nothing else criminal in recent past decades....too much of a mans man and we can't be having that in girly upside down amuricuh...
Gracias por subir, nostalgia Alert!
Nolan Ryan deserves a uniform that doesn't look like he works at Burger King.
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It looks funny today, of course. View history through the context of the time, instead of through a modern lens.
But seriously...those are some ugly ass unis😄
@@hegemonycricket2182 Good point. I was a product designer. I know these things. But traditional never fails when it comes to sports uniforms. That's why Alabama always looks good. That's why Auburn makes orange and blue look better than anybody in America for fifty years. That pattern was a fad. Following fads is foolish and short sighted.
@@tomjones4318 Yep. Trends and fads come and go, but there are some things that stand the test of time.
@@hegemonycricket2182 Exactly. Those uniforms were probly a marketing gimmick maybe got some short lived benefits. To be fair Astros wanted a modern look I get that. It's not easy.
Never knew Keith Jackson called baseball too. Another legend.
If ABC had it, Jackson called it. Wide World of Sports, some NBA with Bill Russell, and even a couple Indy 500s and and stock car races.
And a bunch of Olympics...heck, in 72, he called a Mark Spitz race, then the next day was doing news reports about the massacre there in Munich....and in no way felt out of place in a non-sports role. The man was incredible.
Yup ...
@@pullt Yes, I remember the 1972 Olympics all too well. With Jim McKay, they were an awesome duo!
He's a Haus
@@davidharrison3711 Yeah, McKay was incredible, too. Not that any sports announcer would want the opportunity to step into that scenario, but few would have had the gravitas to approach those two...and none would have been better.
Feels icky to write "opportunity" and "better", but I'm hoping the tenor of my thoughts come through. Then again, I'm no McKay or Jackson.
"You know he's poison.."
That announcer is a savage 😂😂😂
I live in the middle of California and have always had loyalty to Oakland . Many years ago we got a chance to ride a party bus up to Candlestick to see the Astros play the Giants . Not being a Giants fan , but being a huge Nolan Ryan fan it was a natural fit .
It was action wise one of the boringest games I had ever seen , because Ryan just had one of his great days of so many he had. That day he damm near pitched a no-hitter by 1-hitting the Giants as Houston won 1-0
Ryan was a freak of nature to begin with and a force of nature on the mound . That good ol boy from Texas was firing 100 mph fast balls and no hitters and one and 2 hitters well into his advanced playing years. After seeing him I was blown away. All you could hear coming from the field was this,,,,,
POP!”””…. …. POP!”””…. ….. POP!”””…. ….. POP!”””…. ….. POP!”””…. ….. his pitches just abusing the catchers mitt. About every 10th Giant batter that came up would break the routine by fouling a pitch back behind them into the stands and after that it was back to POP POP Amazing ! .
@TerryThomas-vl6xe love this comment thanks for sharing 👍!
Nolan Ryan was money. He made the Astros a decent team all by himself.
Nolan was 🔥
Astros had pretty good team
Overrated. If he was on then he was unhittable. Many times he was not on.
@@AlphanumericCharacters not true. He pitched a ton of innings and had real good era seasons., he just wasnt always on good teams. I wouldnt put him in my top 5 but he was great pitcher.
@@AlphanumericCharacters one year he had 2.76 era and his record was 8 wins and 16 losses. Thats his fault? Come on. Ridiculous
Regardless of the umpire two of the greatest players in baseball! Rosé deserves hall of fame!!
Rose committed a flagrant violation to the game, should he be let in the hall to make it the hall of shame, I rather see shoeless get in, he seemed ignorant of what he got into
He is still Great. He did those actions after being a Baseball player. So he is a Hall of Famer for how he played.
Ryan was good but he’s not a top ten pitcher of all time and Rose is nowhere near top ten.
Man his fastball really did look like it was rising. Pete Rose was a beast for hitting.400 against the Nolan Express
Two of the greatest players ever. I was fortunate enough to see them both play
When your names Nolan Ryan you get those marginal calls.
Yep 😆
Yep Greg Maddux also made a living off that outside, outside corner lol
Ump probably couldn’t see the ball! Nolan was throwing 108+ in his prime.
In his defense, he IS the all-time leader in walks. ;)
@@ronondechek14 Aradolis Chapman holds the Guinness world record for the fastest MLB pitch at 105.1 from 2018, Ryan's fastest he was ever clocked at was 100.5, where in God's name did you come up with 108? Sounds like your getting primed, LoL!
Later in this series rose worked a key walk. He flipped the bat almost like a homer. Most intense at bat ever.
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Pete Rose stood very far away from the plate to the outside of the box. He was basically giving Nolan Ryan the outside. Rose was able to cover the outside due to being such a great hitter at going the other way. He probably never thought the umpire was going to give Ryan that outside strike. Due to a couple of calls early in the at-bat I expected Rose to move up in the box a little bit. He did not and that cost him the at-bat.
Thanks this is a jewel ..two legends of MLB
Ryan wasn't going to give him anything over the plate or inside. The fact that everything was high and outside shows alot of respect for Charlie Hustle.
Pete was a tremendous hitter.
@@scottdavidson526 No s***!
The best ever.
Even the umpire helped out, by making home plate extra wide. And, probably, Pete's letters extra high too. Ryan's walk ratio was embarrassing and MLB probably gave him a bigger strike zone as a matter of policy. You do what's good for business, and it's good business to give your superstars and marquee names all the breaks. Over his career, Ryan averaged more than 4.5 walks per nine innings pitched came close to one walk for every two strikeouts. He walked eight batters in one of his seven no-hitters. He never threw a perfect game.
Holy shit, Nolan Ryan was an absolute badass!
He was
He was the strikeout king. Threw 7 no-hitters in his career.
Watched Ryan pitch 92 mph ball live many times against the Padres at Jack Murphy Stadium. Also, saw Pete Rose head slide into 2nd several times. He was at Caeser's Autograph shop 7 years ago. Missed him by two minutes. Ozzy Smith was probably the best player I've ever seen live. Fricken' acrobat!
Two of the biggest legends of the baseball game......not likely we'll see this caliber of play EVER AGAIN!
Definitely a wonderful match up I hope we have this again
Best part? Both were PEDs free, ya hear that David Ortiz and Roger Clemens?
@@FLoCk3r the only thing that I remember where people got excited Flock was when Clemens was facing Josebag Canseco in a playoff game Oakland against Boston, but big difference, Josebag was on the roids, Clemens was not at that time, but like a fool he started on them later in his career and that's why he's not in the Hof
Do you guys even watch today's game? Shohei vs Trout?
@@josephsimmons9241 I don't, too many Prima Donna's and it's consumed by greed, owner's, agent's, player's, Mike Trout is a great hitter, but it's overall a boring game to watch now
Nolan Ryan is my favorite baseball player in the HISTORY of baseball!
Great one 👌