(TF10)Starfleet Uniforms 2151-2269 (Part 1)
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- Опубликовано: 3 май 2019
- In today's episode of Trek Facts we take a look at Starfleet Uniforms from the years 2151-2269, hope you enjoy :)
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Awesome videos my friend, always look forward to new ones..
Thank you so much :)
I don't know if anyone would agree but I feel the arm patch in enterprise is a great yet subtle way of reminding you how small star fleet is at this point. Because there are so few ships and such people can be easily identified by where they serve :)
Great video again!
Yes I agree it made sense for the time :) And thank you so much :)
Also harkens to NASA's mission badges.
I always love arm patches like that. They were great in ENT and also in the reimagined BSG. I just like them!
The underwear shots of Tucker, T’Pol, Sato, and Archer in ENT were purely fan service, and I was absolutely NOT mad about it :)
I love Pike's Uniform from The Cage/Menagerie. It feels like if star trek was filmed in the late 50s. It looks militaristic, comfortable, and ready for action.
Same, I don’t understand why they didn’t have him wear a modernised version of that in Season 2 of Discovery. The recoloured version of the regular uniform that they usually wear in the series seems a bit weird.
I love the utility of the Enterprise uniforms and how lean everyone looks in them. For Discovery I’ve been really enjoying all the uniform and costume design.
This video made me realize how the Discovery uniforms fit in more cleanly than I thought between Enterprise and TOS, well done sir!
Yeah it seems like a good in-between.
I'll always love Star Trek II, and I love those uniforms. Nicholas Meyer nailed the old style naval look and feel perfectly. He really served Trek well.
I know this came out long before SNW, bur the evolution from the DIS Enterprise uniforms to the SNW ones really does make it like the DIS where prototypes and that the SNW are the proper rollout.
Also thr SNW uniforms are my favourite. So nicely detailed and tailored, and so many variants that keep within the style. So nice.
TMP Kirk and crew had some pretty snazzy jackets to wear on their away mission to meet V'ger
Do red shirts come with the warning "wear at your own risk"?
Lieutenant, arrange a security team to meet Mr. Spock and I in the transporter room.
**Security looking nervously at each other**
Gold and blue have a higher death rate
It is printed on the laundry service instruction tag on the inside.
Depends which series you're watching.... typical Star Trek continuity!
@@jpeck87 Yes. If you calculate the percent.
Khan never forgave Kirk for dressing him up as a lowly ensign. He wanted revenge
Another great segment! I always thought the earlier uniforms were more functional and practical. I felt that "Wrath of Khan" uniforms were great for formal functions , but going on an away mission they were so impractical. I also feel that the "Next Generation" uniforms were just plain impractical. I feel that the "Voyager" style uniforms were more practical for away missions. I feel that the "First Contact " uniforms were practical. Star Fleet Marines when stationed on a ship have a "ship uniform" and an away mission uniform. When Star Fleet Marines go on an away mission their uniforms are a darker color so they can blend in with their surroundings. Standard Star Fleet security beams down to a planet ,just sight in on the "Bright" gold shirt and "BAM!" instant kill-shot! I am sorry, I'm getting off track. Star Fleet uniforms should be more practical than what they are. Strength and Honor friend ! May the 4th be with you! (4 May 2019 0656 hours)
Thank you as always! I think uniforms are a hit or miss for me as well!
Always loved the Green wrap around over the yellow
Wonder why the early 2230s uniform from the USS Kelvin wasn’t covered. The uniform was around before Nero so it’s canon.
The maroons are my favourite sci-fi fleet uniforms.
If you are referring to the uniforms of Wrath of Kahn and following TOS crew movies, they are generally referred to as "Cinnamon's" . If so I agree, best looking and practical to boot.
"Monster Maroons" is the term that I've seen on the various websites regarding Trek uniforms.
It's great to see the development of the uniforms across the years
The TOS era is, like, so laid back, and Kirk's green wraparound number was pretty cool. Am still scratching my head over who zips the TNG crew into their gear, given that the zips are at the back. 😁
That is the question isnt it? ;) BTW Can you zip me up? :P
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics resistance would be futile! 😁
Indeed it would!
The in-universe uniforms don't have zippers. Not sure it was ever explained how the one-pieces worked.
say what you will about their prime directive, but star-fleet has GOOD TAILORS
Indeed they do :)
Especially Garak.
Great video overall! I enjoy all of them. One note, albeit a contentious one, all general personnel in the TOS era used the delta. There was a special insignia for Commodore, one for starbases/major installations and, lastly, one for transport/"merchant" ships. There was one additional insignia during TOS' run which was a wardrobe department foible (and so noted in a memo) which was then perpetuated in ENT's 'A Mirror Darkly.' Or have I just spoiled a future Truth or Myth episode? lol
Reallife mistakes cant explain away in universe visuals... We saw it therefore it is canon... Thus assignment patches were used during that period... To learn more about this in universe situation please refer to memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Assignment_patch
My favorite uniform style is actually one that was created but not shown on screen except for ONE deleted scene, that style is the unused Generations Uniform, It has the double breasted design of the Monster Maroon but the layout of the TNG uniforms however the entire torso below the yoke is division colored, Rank stripes were also reintroduced for that design to serve alongside the rank pips, Anyone unfamiliar with what I'm talking about should look it up because It's a really cool design.
Thank you for that. Very stylish, almost a Macross look to them.
Great vid but overlook the Franklin uniforms from Beyond. Granted they appeared in a Kelvin universe film but the ship crashed before Nero's arrival which caused a great divergence with the prime universe so it is possible the Prime starfleet officers wore something close to those as well in the early days of the Federation
Thank you but no I didnt overlook the Franklin style... I left them out intentionally... As for the Kelvin Universe Uniforms... This video is about Prime Universe Uniforms only!
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I think you misunderstood my comment a bit...when I was referred to the Kelvin universe I was just assuming that is the reason why you left out the Franklin uniforms since its unclear if prime starfleet officers wore a style of that uniform during that undocumented time period...not the Kelvin style of Tos/Connie uniforms or its variants
LOL No, I left them out intentionally... Had nothing to do with anything other then a conscious decision!
Great video! Makes me want a Starfleet uniform even more
Thank you so much :)
Almost done watching ds9 and I gotta say I like the grey uniform better then any of the other uniforms (besides the jumpsuit one, but that's a close second)
My favorite thus far is the Movie First Contact Style!
My favorite uniforms will always be the ones from Star Trek 2 thru 6.
My personal favorite was the monster maroon. It is a great looking uniform IMO. But considering that you stopped here, I was going to say that the final uniform that we see in DS9 was probably the coolest and most comfortable.
You never fail on giving us FANtastic content.
Live long and prosper 🖖
I love the First Contact Style Uniform! And as always thank you :)
Really enjoying your videos.
Thank you :)
This video explains a hell of a lot tbh. Good job.
Thank you very much Captain :)
Great video. I love your channel you always have great content
Thank you very much and thank you for the support! :)
I like the Enterprise and Discovery uniforms. They look both stylish and functional.
Indeed they do!
trek facts watched now on to trek flash.... almost watched all channel content loving all so far keep it up
WOW thank you so much for the support :)
Very well done.
Thanks!
I really love the Star Trek Discovery uniforms. They look practical and stylish at the same time.
They seem like a good continuation of the ones from Enterprise.
Completely agree!
you forgot the uniform the crew of the franklin wore. the Earliest federation uniform.
No I didnt, I let them out specifically...
I kinnda liked the utilitarian nature if the uniforms in Star Trek Enterprise. It made so much more sense than the uniforms that came later.
Good Job on integrating the "weirder" low budget uniforms in to a cohesive timeline
You pointed out a few things I've never noticed and after all these years, I'm surprised I didn't. I saw the tie worn by Forrest, it just didn't register for some reason, the same for the piping on the Flag officers uniform. Personally, I love the functionality of Archers uniform as it just seems comfortable and useful. My least favorite was the bodysuits from Star Trek The Motion Picture.
Well then my work here is done ;) :P
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics - :-D
Yeah, I hated those TMP uniforms too. I hate ST:Enterprise for a variety of reasons but they got the uniforms halfway right with the jumpsuit design. Wasn't wild about them using pips for ranking though...
A bit late to this video, but you did a great job merging the "early years" that span decades of franchise production into a neat and nearly seamless continuity. :) On to Part 2
Thank you so much, hope you enjoy P2!
Looking back... pike and kirk had the coolest ones ... in my eyes! Thoughnimdo like the more realistic jumpsuit look too...
You stepped in the hell xD
Super video
Thank you!!!
The actors from OG and Enterprise had it the best. SNG had to wear such a tight costume they could hardly breath
Awesome video!!!!!
Thank you!
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics anytime!
You’d think starfleet would devote some resources to settle on a uniform design that can last....lol
LOL youd think :P
Tell that to modern militaries!
The fact is that styles do change and since uniforms have to be replaced periodically, anyway, redesigns happen. Also, with things like working uniforms, new materials come along that are more flame resistant, stay dry better, insulate, etc.
@@garethfairclough8715 I don't know of any modern military that has changed it's uniforms so radically in style and so frequently. In most modern services the insignia is only a little changed from World War 2 or much earlier. Remember, given the actual size of Start Fleet, we are talking about changing millions of uniforms over the entire quadrant, in itself a very expensive undertaking.
@@davidjames1068 The US military (Army, specifically) has gone through at least three different uniforms since the War on Terror started: the old woodland/chocolate chip, UCP and OCP, plus dress uniform changes from green to blue. I didn't serve but many of my friends did, and they can point out uniform errors in movies down to the year.
thanks for the new cool video, oh and may the 4th be with you ;)
Thank you, and ALSO with you!
we seriously Need an official Star Trek-Day :D@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics
Star a petition then! :)
@@kaltenstein7718 what's wrong with celebrating first contact day?
Enterprise uniform is my fave
If they ever make the captain worf show they should bring in garrak and have him show off his own Starfleet design
The uniforms from Star Trek II looked the best but I loved the 1960s uniforms the best, looked the most comfortable, they should have used the Star Trek II uniforms as dress uniforms for the old 60s ones. Pike's new design blended well the classic with a more modern look still love what they did with the Enterprise bridge.
If you look at modern militaries, there are numerous uniforms for officers & enlisted personnel for a variety of job functions, weather conditions, terrains, and seasons. Obviously, for budget reasons Star Trek has reduced these numbers.
I got the impression that the original point of the DS9/Voyager jumpsuit was that it was supposed to be a working uniform. They weren't worn on larger starships because those ships were meant for formal first contact situations. Voyager was on a one off mission to deal with the Maquis, so it warranted the working uniform. Note how whenever Sisko returned to Earth, he'd wear the TNG uniform due to the more formal atmosphere at HQ. This would be similar the the modern jacket/tie everyday uniform an officer working at the Pentagon would wear today, while someone deployed in the field or on a ship would wear something more utilitarian day to day.
I'm not sure if it counts but you didn't mention the MACOs on Enterprise. 👍 Maybe they're not technically Starfleet?
They aren’t. That’s why reed has such a problem with them as he thinks that starfleet thinks he needs military to do his job.
This might be some trek trivia. I'm not sure if it's mentioned in other videos, but the gold command color of TOS Era uniforms was originally supposed to be green. It appeared yellow and was later changed.
Didn't notice women had 4 stripes of lamellae and men had 5. Odd choice, but it would have made it easier for the viewer to distinguish the women from the men on Discovery. With the exception of Anson Mount, that was actually pretty hard. Most were neither morg or imorg. The pattern of stripes going from shoulders to chest turn tended to make many of the male actors look effete in the navy blue. The STD USS Enterprise uniforms are however the best uniforms of the franchise, visually. They even look military.
The 60s go go outfits for Rand and Uhura were designed by Grace Whitney and the costume team, as she and the network thought the sweatshirts looked sloppy on the women for color TV. It is modeled almost exactly off a popular video of "These Boots are Made for Walking" that had been shown the December before 1966 series filming began and was very popular with the Matt Helm 007 generation.
Nice retcon on the badges. Temporarily every other ship, even flagships used specific posting badges, but somehow the Enterprise kept the Delta. Being not the USS Constitution or a flagship of the fleet, just a cruiser.
Have to admit not a video I would suggest to make. However, this was really interesting to see the evolution of the uniform through the years.
It was actually a request from multiple channel fans, and thus the video is born!
I just realized how practical hats from Ent would be on away missions and now I'm wondering why they disappear from then on, lol.
I like the 2257 style, I'd say it's a nice mesh of formality, familiarity to current day viewers(from an out of universe standpoint) and practicality, compared to the later one pieces.
Great video Mate. I never really understood why people hate the TMP uniforms! Well I admit, it was different a bit weird but still looked really interesting. Don't get me wrong I like "the red one" but if I remember it correctly even the actors admitted that they were hot (not in a good way) and a bit impractical (just like the first TNG ones). 🖖
I loved the uniforms with lots of color like the original series and the uniforms starting in the 3rd season of TNG. Not a big fan of the ones used in the TNG movies.
My favorite uniform: TOS
Star Trek 2 - 6 had the best looking of all Starfleet uniforms. The uniforms in TNG movies were pretty slick too, but my money is on the former.
I think the Enterprise uniforms are the most functional and best looking of the uniforms presented in this group.
Yes they are and i love the Discovery TOS uniforms
Agreed. I believe in reality we'd have similar versions of the Enterprise uniforms for quite some time. Utility and pockets will always be needed, especially in space.
The only upgrade I'd make is to have them a two piece, shirt and pants, instead of a jump suit. Voyager updated the same on their uniforms and you can tell when taking the top off was useful. 👍
As much as I like the TOS outfits, I don't see any military type organization going with casual jerseys and wrap arounds, lol. I don't care how advanced you are.
At best, those are on planet gear. Maybe Earth casual.
I like the Franklin jumpsuits better than the blue ENT era jumpsuits.
What about the variant of the ENT uniforms seen in 2161
That is seen AND mentioned in the video... It's actually the Dress Style Variant...
How do you get such in depth odd facts? Do you know some of the cast that you can ask?
Also some uniforms just look better than the others.
I like the Discovery uniforms, never really liked the original series uniforms and I did like most of the film uniforms. My favourite being Wrath of Kahn to Undiscovered Country. I also dig the white and grey designs from TMP and don't get me started on the reboot uniforms. Mmm. My favourite of the TNG era uniforms may be... Star Trek Voyager and DS9, also the grey ones from First Contact.
I always felt the uniforms should have had build in survival gear like personnel forcefield that can be filled with it's own atmosphere if there is hull breach and proteched them form exploding consoles and raditation paser and disruptor fire and magnetic boot tech in there foot wear to prevent the crew form been sucked in to space or been tossed about the ship.
They should definitely have separate "Away Mission" uniforms with tech built in. I agree. Hell, I wish the shows would have dedicated "Away Teams," IE Marines, for away missions
You forgot the version worn on the USS Kelvin. I think you can consider that from the prime timeline.
No I didnt, I left it out specifically
TriAngulum Audio Studios Why is that may I ask?
You'll find out in a future episode of Truth OR Myth :)
TriAngulum Audio Studios hmmm looking forward to it 👍
But prime timeline doesn't have anything to do with Star trek canon
So what's your favorite style? Mine would be the TOS and latter day Next Gen Era probably.
Mine is the First Contact Movie Style!
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Sweet that's what I meant by latter TNG I count DS9 and Voyager in that time period.
I wish they hadn’t gone with the black collar for the new Enterprise uniform on Discovery and kept it more similar to the TOS pilot uniform
I love them as they are!
Man, I used to love the TWOK uniforms when I was younger. But then I joined the army and learned just how much of a pain in the backside such fussy, frilly, dressy types of uniforms like that can be. In the years since, I find myself liking the TWOK uniform less and less.
I think the uniforms were best with the Enterprise style, personally. Now those were functional, yet simple enough that you didn't have to worry about too many things when putting them on in the morning!
I see the TWOK uniforms as something that would be worn at HQ, but not for every day work in the field.
I agree. Ent was the most realistic imo. 👍 I don't care how advanced you are. You'll always want and need pockets.
uhm.. guys? what it Twok?
@@hannibalburgers477 The Wrath of Kahn
I want the red version with the skirt
Pretty sure DSC is going to retcon the TOS uniforms to the Pike Style. That would flow it to the TMP uniforms more fluidly.
Love the Pike style uniforms but that asymmetrical collar is an eyesore. The material also looks a bit too rubbery.
Is it just me or did you miss "the cage" uniform? Set a few years before disco, they had simple turtlenecks in a light mustardy yellow, if I remember right. Leonard nimoy had one with a button up shoulder so he didn't have to pull it over his prosthetic ears.
LOL no I didnt, I said there were many variations tested between DSC
Pikes Uniform and the one they finally settled on in Kirks time! 1 time
on screen doesnt necessarily = a mention for me!
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics is that canon?
Yes
Cool video, I never liked the red tunics
Thank you very much!
Awesome video, but when are you going to do a part 2?
Soon My friend, soon!
Awesome 👍
What of the Kelvin uniform? 2233 designs are still canon in both timelines, right?
Indeed they are but I left them out specifically...
I always thought there should have been a green for Medical. Since I'm sure Engineering knowledge would encompass science as well.
Awsome but you did miss the cage uniforms that existed before disco
LOL no I didnt, I said there were many variations tested between DSC Pikes Uniform and the one they finally settled on in Kirks time!
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Fair enough! It's just a favorite of mine.
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics That also appears to be a bit of a discrepancy. The Cage takes place in 2254, Discovery 2256/57 Pike states that these (TOS) unis are the new issue yet Kirk and crew are wearing the Cage era unis in 2265 TOS:WNMHGB. Thats roughly a ten year time period. I highly doubt that they would issue TOS unis in 2256 only to have them recalled only to use them again a decade later in the The Man Trap (2266) To much inconsistency.
@@erichelvie8524 Actually there is no discrepancy... If you look at the Cage Uniform and the Uniforms from Where no man there are significant differences to them, the collar being one... But even if they were the EXACT same since it is canon it's up to us the audience to explain it away... And right off the top of my head the explanation would be that ALL these designs were being tested so when Kirk took over he favored an older design...
@@thod8820 No problem, though it just wasnt significant in the amount of time spent in the series on it to warrant space in this video :)
I liked ENT did a hybrid of astronaut 👩🚀 and Trek uniforms
So, in other words, Starfleet just got tired of colours and dressed everyone like Canadian Mounties...which is awesome!
God Bless Canadians ;)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Thanks--we just had a week-long winter relapse here in Edmonton, so I'll take that lol.
Also, love this channel and your take on Trek.
It's beautiful today here in Ontario :)
Love these vids, but why is this the only one without subtitles?
I dont make subtitles for any of these videos so Im not sure....
7:45 Where is this from?
TNG: Season 6, Episode 15, “Tapestry”.
Hated the monster maroon uniforms. The ranks and departments were VERY confusing.
My favourite uniforms are the jumpsuit enterprise they are actually functional, pockets etc, the later spandex tge style was silly the voyager jump suite style comes in hot second.
I really didn’t like the future endgame admiral Janway style one
Charles tucker the 3rd how you doing lol
My fav dress uniform is insurrection white ones,
I did like the 29th century uniforms too (we will just not talk about how the 29th century should have been the new Star Trek show)
The Insurrection dress uniforms really look sharp. Definitely the best dress uniform of the 24th Century!
Indeed I think they are VERY sharp :)
Is the separate ship insignia addressed in canon? I can't recall any in canon explanations for or against it. I know out of canon (in a production memo) it was addressed as not true and a production mistake for that awful episode (with the USS Exeter). But let's face it: most of the uniforms don't really make sense.
A couple side thoughts: Constitution class vessels seemed to be under the command of commodores as often as captains. Did Kirk have consistent rank insignia? I think Pike had a single band in the Cage.
No things like that are never addressed on screen... But it is canon, so Assignment Patches existed... Also Kirk had a constant rank insignia... And there were more Captains commanding Connies on screen then Commodores...
I love the 23rd century starfleet women uniforms, the sexy miniskirt design is functional and very beautiful.
Enterprise still has the best looking uniform
the most pratical looking uniform
Triangulum Audio Studios why does Riker wear an ill fitting DS9 uniform in Star Trek Generations? Could they not find his uniform from the TNG series?
I remember having read that Riker wore Sisko's Uniform and Geordi wore O'Briens uniform, to cut down on Tailoring costs and time scheduling concerns.
Also, on a convention Talk, Marina Sirtis (Deanna Troi) told the audience that the Classic DS9/Voyager was the to-go uniform for the Movies by the producers but she refused and talked Gates McFadden into also not accepting this Uniform and they actually nagged until Robert Blackman designed the First Contact uniforms instead
I think Generations originally had it's own uniform design but that was scrapped last minute so they had to fall back to DS9 outfits.
And yes, Riker wore Sisko's, for whatever ridiculous reason. 😄
honest question, in Enterprise they had the pockets but never used them for anything, did this bug anyone else or am i just OCD?
As a teenager in the sixties, we had mini skirts in outer space. NASA sure has proven to be a disappointment.
Maybe I'm reaching but, I think TOS uniforms follow a pattern similar to modern Naval garb. Look at pictures of crews on a carrier flight deck. Each have different jobs, fuel/maint, rescue, recovery, launch operations, supervisory, etc.
The basic uniform is the same, but each job has a different corresponding color. Probably the same on ST. Just an opinion.
3:15 she should have been in a standard issue uniform
Various variants?
Yes
Ent had something other star treks didn't. POCKETS
I can hear it in your voice that you don't want to talk about the Motion Picture uniforms. We have to acknowledge the history we do not want to talk about to move forward :P
LOL not even slightly true, Im a fan of the TMP Style uniforms:P Better get your emotional radar checked ;) :P
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Oh god, I immediately went on to watch the second part. My bad :D clearly I am projecting :P Great channel by the way!
You missed the Kelvin uniforms.
No I didnt, they'll be explained in a future episode of this series. As will my choice for doing them separately...
I am disappointed that in the Discovery era, that the uniforms are specified based on GENDER.
I have never notist that there are different numbers of piping for male and female peronal, but what about the two million other genders in an multi species federation?
Me thinks that the last Commodore in the Navy was Grace Hopper. She invented COBAL. The rank is not used anymore in the US Navy. I think...I may be wrong with other nations.
You did for got to mention tye cage uniforms from 2254
LOL no I didnt, I said there were many variations tested between DSC Pikes Uniform and the one they finally settled on in Kirks time! 1 time on screen doesnt necessarily = a mention for me!
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics now you see why so many people did not like disvover season one because tye star trek canon hard trekker wanted star trek that fitted right into the star trek canon universe not a misfit step child that felt more like star wars then star trek at best at worst total scrap.
Huh what are you talking about? First released numbers prove DSC is the most viewed Trek to date, hence why they are making SOOO many other series... ALSO in recent polls conducted by TrekSphere in both Hater and Non DSC hater groups 74% of the fanbase Loved DSC... SO that's all nonsense what you just said... AlSO this video is about uniforms NOT DSC Canon... They explained away the difference in uniform as the PIKE uniforms were different styles being tested out, so there are NO canon violations at all...
Did everyone wear red in the movies to keep the audience guessing who would die? I mean the first time everyone wore red, Spok died.
You passed over the USS Kelvin (~2230s) and USS Franklin (~2170s) uniforms - why so? Both are from the prime timeline.
Patience my friend... That will be explained in a future video!
Sounds good! Can't wait to see.
I really don't like Discoverys uniform design. I can't see it being the logical middle ground between Enterprise and TOS.
Imagine wearing all those wool layers in TWOK and on. Very uncomfortable. Though not as uncomfortable and disgusting looking as the disco uniforms.
Will you talk about the Odyssey Uniforms from 2410 ( Star Trek Online) in a second or third part?
STO is not canon, thus NO uniforms from that game will be discussed!