Oh dope, my comment got read out! Though, listening back to it, perhaps I sounded a bit too critical of the idea. I was basing the power scale on their descriptions and previous appearances, but I realise that each digimon continuity is distinct so the writers can make digimon more or less powerful as the story demands. Ultimately I do quite like the idea of the New Seven Demon Lords but I think Cherubimon Vice should at least get an evolved form to be considered a demon lord just to be consistent with the other two.
I always thought Lilithmon was supposed to be equal in strength to Ophanimon with them being Slide Evolutions of eachother. Basically imagine Angewomon vs LadyDevimon & it should be the same for their Digivolutions. Daemon I'm not as familiar with so it could be Digivolved from a Fallen Seraphimon rather than a slide evolution. I don't think Cherubimon Vice is inconsistent with them exactly.
@@bookmew1081 I would agree if not for Ophanimon Falldown Mode, because it fulfills the role of an evil Ophanimon who's equal in power to the original. And their X-antibody counterparts treat Lilithmon as one stage above Ophanimon FM.
@@ChaosBloodNinja Digimon have a tendency to get retconned powerlevels that tend to favor certain Royal Knights & Demon Lords. Also doesn't help that new material becomes increasingly harder to access in English. When I last checked the boundary between Stage 6 & Stage 7 was supposed to be a massive wall only partially passable by Burst Modes & fully passable by a few confirmed Ultra Levels & DigiXros Fusions. Then again back during Season 1 I'm sure the same thing was said about Stage 6 Digimon being insanely rare & special. Has a level beyond Ultra/Super Ultimate been reached yet?
@@bookmew1081 To my knowledge there still isn't a proper level 8 yet. Even media that does acknowledge the Ultra/Super Ultimate level is exceedingly rare. Like the TCG has a level 7 that lines up with the Ultras in Cyber Sleuth but are still only called Megas. In the Digital Monster X vpet the X versions of the Demon Lords and Royal Knights are in sort of a "Mega/Ultimate+" category shared with Rasenmon, AncientSphinxmon, Darkness Bagramon and Diaborumon X. With an even more powerful group consisting of only Ogudomon X and Jesmon GX.
@@ChaosBloodNinja We're not counting Xros Wars as canon right? Shoutmon x7 Superior Mode may actually be stronger than Jesmon GX. Stage 6 Digimon digivolve & are technically still Mega to where it is basically an Upgraded Mega. Burst Modes were once treated as being that Stage 6+ category. It's obvious that Yggdrasil didn't want Stage 7 to exist & only made a few exceptions. When did the 1st Ultra Level appear? Right now I don't know what to think of the Megas who Digivolved from Megas. Do stages for Digimon lose meaning once you reach Mega? Digimon is quite complicated these days compared to when I was watching the anime as a little girl.
Digimon: A show originally made to promoted tamagochis but also having much deeper and well thought out lore than a lot of fantasy worlds out there. Sure why the hell not xD
My theory (or at least headcanon) is that out of all the Demon Lord digimon, Bagramon holds the best chances at defeating GrandDracmon. Not because of its soul manipulating abilities, i doubt GrandDracumon has a soul, but because of something else. GranDracumon is the king of vampire digimon. Thus it possesses an immortal body. A common method of killing vampires is with a wooden stake through the heart. The king of vampires would obviously need a really special wooden stake. Say a stake made from the holiest tree in Digital world. And guess what Bagramon has for a right arm. If you include Bagramon's two lesser know abilities, Invisible Snake-Eyes, which allow it to see anywhere, and Super-Dimensional Storm, which allows it to reach anywhere in the Digital World, Bagramon could strike from anywhere it wishes.
I freaking love the thought of bagramon just walking up to grandracmon and just poking it really hard and grandracmon getting deleted. I know this would not happen but still, let me dream.
Yeah but you forget that granddracomon created the dark area he can just banish him deeper and deeper to the dark area or just create a punishment dimension for bargramon.
@@helloiwanttootakeoverthewo3217 Not sure if GrandDracmon can just create dimensions willynilly, but I do know that Bagramon can effortlessly move between dimensions, so you cant banish him in that manner.
One of my favourite parts about the digimon lore is how it makes you wonder how we every got to see it in a decently peaceful state while it's filled to the brim with over the top powerful forces with motivations to start shit with other factions. I'd love to see a season where an established group like the Adventures or Tamers kids come back to the Digiworld and it's just an all out war on multiple fronts, no clear good/evil side, just groups like that fighting each other for selfish reasons and the kids being the only factions trying to end the conflict. Imagien like the Dark Masters arc in adventures but instea dof waiting to get killed the masters also avoiding the 7 demonlords currently on a warpath through the Digiworld, loosing members to the royal knigths, killing one of the sovereigns and meanwhile everyone is afraid because Milleniummon starts to gian power on the other side of the world. Basically absolute chaos and those groups beign in the middle of it. Honestly a bit tired of single villian arcs or villian groups that end up feeling like just monsters of the week gettign finished 1 by 1
So for the Cherubimon entry about him being jealous of Seraphimon and Ophanimon he is referring to what happened in Digimon Frontier where Cherubimon became jealous of his peers and started a war against them
Cherubimon references how Cherubem aren't liked nearly as much as the other angel classes in its sphere of important angels with the Seraphem & Ophanem both being higher class in heaven. I'm guessing Cherubimon was given half the spirits for a reason relating to it being treated differently from Seraphimon & Ophanimon. Despite living in the same highest sphere, the Cherubem are essentially Divine Animals. Still the lower 2 spheres of angels exist & their Digimon never get the acknowledgement like the highest sphere Angels get.
We have seven great demon lords and the new seven demon lords and both groups represent the seven deadly sins. What we really need is group of digimon who will represent the seven heavenly virtues.
Honestly really like this idea, you did a good job explaining how all of these members could fit! A while back I actually made an effort to create a slightly more extended version of the Seven Demon Lords: The Nine Demon Lords, which consisted of the original Seven members as well as the two unused Sins: Melancholy and Vanity. Due to him being Superior to all seven Demon Lord, the founder was GranDracmon. Ghoulmon was chosen as the Sin of Melancholy. MaloMyotismon became the Sin of Vanity, "Belial" was choosen as his demon representative as a reference to his Japanese name: BelialVamdemon.
There were a lot of names for deadly sins, some of which overlap. Greed & Avarice are the same, Pride & Arrogance are the same, Apathy was another you forgot, & Despair is another name for Melancholy.
Cherubimon feels like a far better choice as a demon lord due to it having it's reasons for being envious, and more characterization...unlike Leviathanmon which is basically just a big ol red gator that's apparently envious at everything in general. XD
@@davidsaylors24 Yeah I get what he's based off of. I'm saying he has very little to no characterization in the stories of Digimon. He doesn't have any big arcs, stories, or interactions with other digimon lore wise.
I personally think Apocalymon would make for a good counterpart to Ogudomon. All three of them are of comparable strength but Digimon Adventure gave it a background that made it the combination of several digimon who died due to failing to evolve and some media also makes it the fusion of the Dark Masters, so as far as the fusion aspect goes, it's closer to Ogudomon than GranDracmon. I get that Gulfmon was reincarnated from Apocalymon and is probably around just as strong as GranDracomon and Apocalymon but in its current incarnation it lacks the fusion aspect. In fact, I actually find Gulfmon's inclusion as a regular demon lord baffling when it rivals GranDracmon in power.
I sort of agree with that commentator about Bagramon and GranDracmon. Those two have been confirmed and shown to be strong enough and powerful to not only disregard and challenge the Seven Great Demonlords; but also have withstand most if not all possible challengers. Bagramon, despite my dislike of him in Xros Wars as the sitting final boss, did command a Lillithmon and a Lucemon as his soldiers. Personally I am curious about that manga series (unsure if it is fan-made or not) about the X evolutions. Since there was a showing of Darkknightmon X challenging Barbamon for the title of Demon Lord of Greed. Results unknown or if that lore will update in changing. However, I do think that those that hold a title of Demon Lord, especially the Seven Great Demon Lords, will need to be both strong and cunning to maintain that title. Going back to Bagramon and GranDracmon, I think they see themselves as above the Demon Lords and would not lower themselves to obtain those titles. Maybe. Unless it benefits them somehow.
Now that we have a new Demon Lords group Now I'd like to see something like the next Generation of Royal Knights with Jesmon leading them as their Leader
I think this concept would be something insane for a Video Game or a Manga to show a "civil war" between the Great Demon Lords vs the new Demon Lords wanting to take over. It could be something like the Digmon Chronicle X but focusing on how the winner of this war could change and likely cause greater destruction upon the whole Digital World.
Yeah I was going to point out MaloMyotismon's weakness too. I think that the fact that a demon lord is powerful enough to challenge or beat one of the seven, they don't necessarily want to. Say, GranDracmon could just chill in his castle and not bother fighting for that spot. Same for being in a group, they could just want to be _the_ rulers of the Dark Area, with no one by their side.
I personally like to think that the new Demon Lords wouldn't need to exist at the same time as the original ones. Rather, the new group would be formed after the old Demon Lords are defeated from the remnants of their armies. It not only fits in the lore by not putting the objectively weaker new Demon Lords (like Ghoulmon and MaloMyotismon) in contention with the stronger original ones. But it would also create this setting where evil lingers despite the main threats being defeated. Like Sauron becoming the new Dark Lord after Morgoth's defeat in Lord of the Rings, despite not being as powerful as his master.
You know, this actually gave me an idea for something very very interesting. A New Royal Knights team to go with the new demon lords. Erlangomon fills the Garuramon DNA Digivolution spot of Omnimon, this was too easy for me honestly it just works so well based on concept alone. It works as Omnimon. Shoutmon DX also works for a Magnamon replacement since they’re unconventional Digivolutions of Rookies that make them as strong as a mega and give them a gold coat. Cannondramon is a huge dragon…no DNA Digivolution but don’t worry I use one with the next Digimon. Ragna Loardmon fills Gallantmon’s role, both being heroic virus attributed Digimon Achiliesmon is an animal like Digimon with a sharp weapon, Duftmon’s replacement. Kazuchimon fits (in my opinion) in Crusadermon’s role but to be honest I couldn’t think of much better other than the main duo for the DIMs for this and Dynasmon’s replacement. Siriusmon takes Dynasmon’s spot mostly because it’s a dragon like being. Magna Kidmon replaces Gankoomon because of how he behaves, he’s a troublemaker with a good heart unlike his allies Beowolfmon replaces UlForceVeedramon, really thought the two blue Megas with blades worked. NoblePumpmon has a weird body part and looks agile, Kentarusmon. Cres Garuramon looks durable and has a Lance, Craniamon’s replacement. HeavyLeomon replaces JESmon really just a lucky Leomon who embodies the courage of JESmon Gaioumom replaces Alphamon. Both are DORUmon Megas, both are natural carriers of the X-Antibody, both have major spots of the colour black, both have swords
There might be a "Hero Olympos XII" officially considering Achillesmon is a thing and Shivamon's existance indicates the Three Supreme Gods might be joining the Devas in being a hindu god group of digimon.
I always had an idea for a story where a Piedmon was hunting down the crests of the Seven Great Demon Lords to summon Ogudomon with the digidestined trying to stop him. He later stabs a Myotismon who was his general in the back and forcefully fuses with him into Boltboutamon. He later succesfully summons Ogudomon and fuses with it and now has it's legs coming out of his back like extra arms.
I actually thought up the same type of group of Digimon :O Except instead of Cherubimon evil i picked Diaboromon who then becomes Armageddemon. Insteae of following the seven 7 deadly sins again I just called them The Kabbals for many of them for their scheming and manipulative personalities.
Somehow I can see this new set of demon lords working together better than the old one. Their goals align and they have a unifying factor in Granddracmon who simply knows too much and one could argue was always in control. A good portion of the new seven demon lords also seem to have personal history and beef with the old seven demon lords due to either being manipulated by certain members or having their lives ruined by them, and the feeling is mutual with the old seven demon lords which means that a civil war is brewing in the dark area. After all there cannot be two groups of seven great demon lords. With a new group of evil that means a new group of good will rise to match them. The royal knights are mostly entangled with the old seven demon lords. I remember El poyomon on Twitter was crafting his own group of seven angel digimon, we just need to get him to finish that group.
Hey Andres My friend,It is great To See you again!Who Do You Think Will Win,All The Ultra Beasts From Sun,Moon,UltraSun,And UltraMoon(Ultra Necrozma VS GrandDracmon Included)VS all Demon Lords,Old And New!I Liked Your last argument About Solgaleo,Lunala,And Ultra Necrozma!
@@chiedoziemuoma6419 probably the demon lords and I am only saying that because there is so little information on the ultra beasts. What makes ultra beasts dangerous is that there is so little known about them and due to the ultra wormholes they are still partially operating on their own dimension's laws instead of fully conforming to the laws that govern whatever dimension they are in, they are also in panic mode with their physical abilities augmented. There is simply not enough information on the ultra beasts and some of the information is honestly not that impressive for the pokemon world. So I am inclined to side with the demon lords who are distinguished individuals and a bit more substantial. If a bunch of ultra beasts gets dropped into the dark area they will most certainly cause havoc and be a bloody pain to deal with but it is likely that the demon lords and other forces of the dark area will find some way to boot the ultra beasts out of dark area and by extension the digital world and into some random dimension just so that they don't have to deal with them anymore. Ultra beasts are simply dimensionally displaced organisms, I doubt they will be able to beat the demon lords but they will cause a whole lot of damage and be a pain to deal with while also being quite useless to the demon lords and being more trouble than they are worth. If you are saying Granddracmon vs Ultra Necrozma (who by the way is a legendary not an ultra beast) then Granddracmon would just be ash. Necrozma is an interdimensional, sun eating, light dragon who is the one who is solely responsible for the existence of light and darkness in the first place and can be discribed as an energy being. Granddracmon as powerful and full of knowledge as he is, is still a digital lifeform whom do not like strong electromagnetic fields, which Necrozma certainly counts by default, and he is a vampire who do not like bright sources of light in general. You are just asking him to die, to fight a being whose presence will kill him, and he is smart enough to know when to make himself scarce and to know that there are some things you are better off not messing with. That is the equivalent of asking a random person if they would jump into a portal which connects to an antimatter world. That is suicide plain and simple.
@@andresmarrero8666 hello, this is the person who argued with you on and off around a year or two ago over Pokemon VS digimon stuff. You probably won't remember me. But ether way I wanted to apologize for all the fighting back then. That's all. I've been coming to terms with past mistakes and have been trying to make amends
it's Good to know.. Let us feel how Greater empowered it is.. We got an idea for it" i was basing the power scale on their movements" a bit too critical of an idea but then it's power superb!..
My favorite characterization for Grandracmon is from Dawn/Dusk where he is crime boss and arms dealer. We've never had a villain of that level of power motivated by business before. Having him as an organized crime boss would show him as a more modern form of villain rather than the more "primitive" power through strength alone types the former Great Demon Lords are.
The next Group sould be based on the Nine Circles of Hell. Whit a secondary Leader for Brutality, in eighter Apocalymon, or Negamon repressenting Suizid. The Demonlords are cool and all, but there Status as strongest Demon Digimon does not make any Sense. Grandracumon, Zeed Milleniumon and other big Names can rival Lucemon, or even Ougudomon pretty clearly. So creating a new Group for the truely strongest Digimon might be a cool Idea.
I thought there were 10 Circles, although it is a very complicated structure in Dante's Inferno & some may not count the outermost circle which is a Limbo like area where philosophers endlessly discuss things.
I think you didn't give enough respect to such a cool idea. you could easily turn it into a series: first, you explore the Digivolotion of all the 'great demon lords' (some of which you already did). then you explore them as a group, then do the same with the now demon lords, and finely compare the two. this is a series I like to see, but it's just a suggestion!
thats a very interesting topic.bagramon for sure seems fit for demon lords.come to think about it,in digimon chronicles x ,darknightmon after achieving his x form went to fight barbamon and gain his place among the 7 demon lords.he should be mentioned lol i mean....he went to fight an x antibody demonlord and hoped to win
It sounds like the dark area is a jail and the digimon inside of it are just convicts trying to gain ground, plutomon and anubismon they would be like judges and jailers.
This was really interesting I would like to see something similar but for the Royal Knights, obviously not all members would be different Jesmon would still be in it cause he’s whole story was being trained by Gankoomon so when he’s gone there’s someone to step up to his place, so I think it be an interesting topic
Considering that like half of the Royal Knights were protagonists of early 1990s Digimon medias, the new one would be likely filled in with new gen protagonists as well. So you'll get Susanoomon, Shinegreymon, Omegashoutmon, Arrestdramon, Gaiamon (if Appmon even counts), Omegamon Alter S, and whatever Gammamon's evolution will be filling 7 spots.
Here’s a thought exercise. What if we had dig destinations with “evil digimon” It can be a whole journey about define the expectations of the digital world, we can have the royal night constantly on their heels for being too dangerous to be left alive. You can spice things up by having the bancho team to drop in every now and again emphasize the whole choose your own path theme. We can all brainstorm if it peaks your interest
I kinda like the idea of a “Dark Digidestined” team. As in, a set of 7-8 children that the 7 Great Demon Lords’ Rookie -level forms are parasitically using as batteries to reclaim their true forms (aka, Mega-level).
@@CatonusPrime98 I was going more for a just because they become things that are considered evil doesn’t mean they have to be, but that’s also a cool idea 👉
@@nicholase82 that just sounds like a contradiction to me. Good doesn't mean order which too much of it does result in stagnation. Good can be just as much chaotic as it is orderly, it can be as much in the shadows as it can be in the light, it depends on what is needed. Thing is digimon are orderly by nature due to being digital lifeforms whom everything is defined by 1s and 0s, yet they live in a world of chaos and perpetuate that chaos and will one of these days destroy itself. Chaos and war has become their order and in doing so has become stagnant.
11:59 Ghoulmon's profile says it becomes Ghoulmon (Black) before the ultimate battle. In the penultimate battle in Digimon Adventure: when the Soundbirdmon merged into Ghoulmon, it materialized as white but suddenly turned black, it's a nice nod to the Bandai lore.
I'm watching this right now but I hope that you at least did a video or hinted to doing another video on the fusion or the x-antibody form lore of the specific Digimon
I feel like the Seven Demon Lords concept is basically the seven challenges before the final boss, Satan. Heck, lots of lore states that GranDracumon is literally the Satan of the Digital World, with incredible knowledge and power. I would say "Negative-mon~Abbadomon" could be a threat to him and the others literally because its a threat to everything but Armageddemon and Arcadiamon Ultra can also be contenders for destruction.
Great video. Btw, have anyone had the idea? That maybe there is a counterpart to the Royal Knights named for example, The Dark Knights, and being led by ChaosDukemon or Omegamon Zwart. Do you think it's a cool idea?.
@@themostbritishpersonalive868 Maybe but in the X-evolution movie Alphamon is Is considered a Legend among the royal Knights Therefore Omegamon in the leadership position make more sense
Also replacing Beelezemon with literally anyone else is a great idea considering he's been made into a anti-hero/redeemed character far more often than as a dirt evil villain in the many Digimon stories at this point. XD
@@MRDLT00 that one I probably consider as a Data type demon lord since the Phoenix sovereign kinda manipulated him by promising Impmon power if he kills the Tamers . I Just know the one in Xros war was lowkey a servant to a holy goddess and trained with an Angemon back when it’s a Reapmon Not to mention unlike the other 6 , he’s more of the type that just likes a good fight and doesn’t torture the weak . And doesn’t have any goals of really causing global destruction and chaos like the others
Malomyotismon always made more sense as Gluttony Demon Lord than Beelzemon & really if it wasn't for being named after Beelzebub there would be no reasoning to have him be 1 of the 7. When it comes to actual Demons in Abrahamic Mythology it's debatable who some of the 7 Demon Lords were with many Christians only believing in 1 Devil rather than many ruled over by Fallen Angels & Ungodly Monsters.
@@bookmew1081 even Beezlemon’s design doesn’t scream “great demon lord “ when compare to Daemon and Lucemon . It’s a nightmare soldier biker that’s more a data type(sometimes vaccine depending on how it grew up In life )
I think Gulfmon fits envy more then lust, it's main driving force is that believes the universe rejects it in favor of other digimon. As for who I would put as lust I think Millenniummon fits the sin of lust with it's temptations of power, it was created from two desires to make the most powerful digimon and in it's Moon=Millenniummon form it grants other digimon's wishes for power at the cost of becoming it's mindless attack beasts. The other's are good choices though.
In a Fanfiction im writing at the Seven Demon Lords and the New Seven Demon Lords are fighting against each other. Loved the Idea that they fought against each other. And i think Ghoulmon would side more with the Old Seven Demon Lords because Voltobautamons new Darkness wants to eradicate all Light and thats clearly not neutral.
Great video! I was wondering if something similar could be done with the Royal Knights? Like should a member die, or go rouge, it would make sense to have a replacement ready, right? I’m not as good as picking members as everyone else here, but I was thinking that the three new mega level Digimon that the main characters from Ghost Game have: Siriusmon, Diarbbitmon, and Amphimon could be contenders since they really look like next Gen Royal Knights. But of course, I would love to hear everybody’s opinions and ideas.
I prefer this group better than the original set . The only members I liked from the original 7 are Lilithmon, Daemon , and Beezlemon . But Beelzemon just seems too much of a loner and felt more like demon lord Digimon that is neutral with some vaccine attributes because of the two versions we seen in the Tamers and Xros War anime
I kind of agree that MaloMyotismon is a weak link, but there also aren't a ton of digimon that fit. Niddhogmon is probably the best one and a good fit for gluttony since it is constantly absorbing energy.
There is a thing I REALLY disagree about regarding the group's makeup - the fact that Boltboutamon and any Myotismon form in general are in the group simultaneously, when it feels like one would replace the other in a tug-of-war of control. Since Bagramon's in, I'd probably put DarkKnightmon in as either a substitute for such a spot since his X counterpart's Ref book entry states he's aiming for a good chair, or a foolish eighth member who gets eaten by Bagramon to obtain his Darkness Mode.
16:15 Is Myotismon really more evil than Millenniummon who altered reality to erase the events of Adventure or villains like Yggdrasil (DATS), Galacticmon, Bagramon, and Quartzmon who want to destroy (or merge with in Galacticmon's case) the human world? Also Apocalymon who basically wants to destroy _everything?_ Also the Digimon X-Evolution version of Yggdrasil was pretty damn evil itself, not quite on the same level but basically wanted to purge the digital world of all digimon, even the royal knights who blindly served it, even manipulating creating and manipulating Dorumon, whose true form was 13th Royal Knight Alphamon, to find a way around the X-Antibody. A slight contrast to the main Digimon X version whose version of Project Ark was actually meant to save 2% of all digimon, which is still evil but slightly less so (relevant bit of triva: the Project Ark virus or X-Virus couldn't really get into the Dark Area so the RKs had to kill the 7DLs personally).
I think watchign the show MaloMyotismon appears at least more evil than the villians before sicne you see the whole Oikawa capturing kids off the street thing and the show seems to imply the dark seeds come from him even though that's not the case. Apocalymon was kinda lame ont he evil scale, he had a miserable existence by nature and was just kinda jealous. Myotismon is the only early villian i can think of that seemed to activly go after humans, first in an open attack than in a malipulative and pretty dark way. Of course the whole franchise seems a bit far fetched but he said it was a personal take so i dont blame him
A cool similar idea to explore would be this but instead of a second seven demon lords group there could be ten demon lords representing breaking the ten commandments. It would make more sense for weaker demon lord digimon to be part of a group that represents lesser sins. The ten commandments in the bible are considered forgivable sins but its said that the seven deadly sins cannot be forgiven usually and are considered worse sins because they usually lead to the sinners death before repenting which results in eternal damnation. For instance wrath could end with you dying during a fist fight before calming down and repenting and lust or envy could have somebody getting caught with his trigger happy neighbors wife, pride comes before a fall and overconfidence during a dangerous situation be deadly, greed leads to crime like robbery oftentimes and sloth and gluttony are a leading cause of death in many western nations via obesity. They are all very hard sins to stop doing once you start and often get ingrained in your psyche so much that they affect your whole life negatively. Regardless of whether you are religious or not theres real wisdom in those parts of scripture, so much so that most religions have historically had some form of the concept. They basically boiled down the cause of all of 99% of humanities self inflicted problems into seven things to avoid. A ten commandments team of demonlords would be a far better fit for weaker digimon like those and you even have room for diaboromon, malomyotismon and one extra for a leader that represents defiance of gods commandments as a whole. :)
Greed is more someone values their wealth more than their own life, Envy leads people to steal the possessions of others. Sloth is closely related to Apathy, or the inability to care about things which was a possible alternative sin to Sloth. Also it should be noted that the 7 Deadly Sins are actually needed in some capacity. Without Pride there wouldn't be respect & dignity, without Sloth we would work ourselves to death, without Envy we would have no desire to improve ourselves. There is supposedly only 1 truly unforgivable sin with even the 7 Deadly Sins being forgivable & it is a unique type of blasphemy where you refuse to accept god when you are in heaven. Because of how human existence is we will automatically have at least some of our 7 Deadly Sins. Wrath is born from a desire to seek justice, while gluttony is born of our worldly need to consume things to survive, & greed is the desire to hold onto worldly possessions. Lust is essentially the original sin & part of why people seek out relationships to begin with in that it is a primal form of love that when properly controlled allows us to actually experience intimacy. What makes the 7 Deadly Sins as deadly as they are is because of them being unavoidable & part of who we are. The 10 commandments are a conscious choice that we follow them or don't rather than natural impulses that we need to prevent from going too far.
@@bookmew1081 too true. All of the 7 deadly sins are natural, unavoidable parts of being a functioning human but theres a strong cut off point where natural human behavior becomes a harmful vice if you dont keep it in check which often leads to some form of self destruction if not death. Thats what makes them the 7 DEADLY sins and not just normal biblical guidelines which aren't written to be as fire and brimstone as people think. In fact taking those other sins too seriously is why there's so many politically active people ready to ban religion if they get the chance. A lot of people join religions because think they can use it as way to act like a dick and feel morally justified while doing it. Theres a biblical term for fake religious people like that and its "hypocrite". A surprising amount of people don't know that the word used to mean that.
@@Coomamon_Memes I said it was important to control your Deadly sins & have them in moderation always making sure they don't go too far. I'm more than aware of religious hypocrites as they are insanely common in America. Our deadly sins can actually encourage us to take part in & study religion for various reasons. I did religion because I thought it made me seem cuter & would make me more liked.
@@bookmew1081 sorry i didnt mean to sound like i was correcting what you said. I guess i was unclear about what i was trying to say. I was basically saying that those things are natural and expected and are only sins once they get out of control. Like just wanting a bit of spending money after living expenses for a hobby is technically greed but is not deadly so it doesn't count. The deadly part that comes from lack of control or is at the expense of other morals is the qualifier. The deadly sins are very different than other sins like that. The ten commandments and most other sins are very situational and God overlooks them depending on the situation. Like telling a lie to spare someones feelings. In that situation you're more guilty for telling the truth. Deadly sins are sins or not based on severity which is why they are the only unforgivable sins that can be committed in life. They all lead to sudden death and when you die quickly like that you don't have time to pray for forgiveness and like you mention pride is the worst one because it makes people think they are always right and end up standing before God and rejecting him out of stubbornness just like lucifer.
@@Coomamon_Memes Even if your death is caused by deadly sin it isn't necessarily unforgivable. Supposedly there is mercy for those who repent at the gates & even if you do suffer for your sins it won't be forever. Lucifer Satan tried to steal God's Throne for himself alone & when he failed to overthrow God he was shown mercy supposedly. Having his request to rule his own Kingdom that he can tempt others to be part of granted by God. His followers & their followers were allowed to join him. Ungodly monsters would inhabit this Dark Kingdom. Of course that's all we really know other than it being a poorly managed Kingdom full of suffering for the humans who end up there. There are a lot of different beliefs in regards to this stuff that seem to contradict eachother. In reality we can only speculate about this stuff while we live & try to live well. There's supposedly a realm where sins get burned away as well to cleanse souls to where they can either be reborn or ascend to heaven. The H name is often used to refer to both the Demon Realm & Purgatory. There are also some who believe that the Demons work for God to punish the evil deeds of human prisoners until their sins have been atoned for. I hope RUclips doesn't delete this comment.
I would swap MaloMyotismon for GranDracmon, since Myotismon is a vampire and MaloMyotismon could be considered the same. GranDracmon being a the king of vampire digimon implies that it is simply better than MMyotismon. As for the 8th Fusion digimon, I would probably prefer a mode change of Ogudomon that reflects the new digimon that become it. Maybe something like Ogudomon Yggdrasill Mode or something to reflect Bargramon's influence.
Most series have them turn back into a Digiegg regardless, Tamers had them turn into clouds of data that could potentially reform as Digimon if they aren't absorbed. Data Squad/Savers made Stage 1:Fresh & Stage 2:In Training, the same stage & had the artificial Digimon known as Gizumon who could Delete Digimon. Rookie (Stage 3) Gizumon could delete Champion (Adult) & Lower Digimon without giving them a chance to be reborn. Also there are special cases like Wizardmon's Death.
For some reason I think Lilithmon would choose to be part of the new demon lords, although I admit half the old demon lords didn't make any sense. Why is Leviamon Envy when it's description is about it being capable of devouring the entire digital world? Why is Beelzemon considered a warrior of light & why are both Leviamon (Heroic Spirit Card), & Beelzemon considered as Heroic Digimon yet Demon Lords? What if the 7 Demon Lords are similar to the 7 Ninja Swordsmen of the Mist in Naruto? Could Leviamon & Beelzemon have gotten banned from the group for being too heroic? Another video has the theory that Beelzemon heroically defeated Malomyotismon & then took his place, which makes it sound like the 7 Ninja Swordsmen of the Mist. The 7 Codes of Demon Lords could be passed around like Mist Blades with Lucemon getting being shown to take all 7 in Shadow Lord Mode. Also interestingly The 7 Deadly Sins have changed throughout history with Apathy & even Despair having been considered & many being referred to as different names so it makes sense that the members could change as well for the Demon Lord Group. Another interesting thing to note is that Boruto had the New 7 Ninja Swordsman of the Mist, which is somewhat similar to the idea in this video.
Have to agree with the criticism on the likes of malomyotismon cherubimon and ghoulmon black. While ghoulmon black you could make an argument for to take a spot in terms of power, cherubimon despite being a strong mega on his end is rather weak in comparison to most of the others as it did get wrecked by Kaiser greymon and magnagarurumon two digimon that could barely win against the royal knights crusader on and dynasmon, unless that’s not the true scope of his strength or comes off as weaker than he’s suppose to be then I can only see him as a sort of seat warmer for the spot of envy for a different digimon. Malomyotismon though I say has it even worst as despite its power shown in adventure 02 I think that was more so an amplification he got from the special word he first went and then jumped to the digital word. Him pushing back the likes of imperialdramon fighter mode shakumon and silphymon isn’t my gripe it’s more so how he could be able to cause damage in both the digital and soon after the human world at the same time, that bit I don’t think was part of his base power especially when one of his attacks is considered to be only a fraction as powerful as the attack of ghoulmon black. And while power scaling in this series tends to make no sense, malomyotismon was used as a soldier during the fight against quartzmon in xros wars, indicating more that malomyotismon may not be as powerful as we thought he was in 02. As for gulfmon….it’s an odd case, he does show to be strong even as mephistomon, but his loss to wargrowlmon, rapidmon, and Taomon is weird. I want to say the three got a power boost in their digivolution with calmons help because they had some kind of combined attack where they turned crystal and attacked at once but there’s nothing to really tell and it’s honestly really weird.
Wish they would make a new Digimon world game with game play like the last final fantasy game when playing the digi distant but when going into combat with other digimon it will change the gameplay to more of a dragonball xzenoverse style game this way the player can actually fly, fight, run, and perform all of the digimon abilities. The game should also include a roster just as big as dragon ball Z Budokai Takashi with all forms this way the game never gets boring…and this my friends is how digimon can be brought back.
I'm confused... Apart from the fan theory / head canon, is the lore about the seven great demon lords, the royal knights, etc. part of a specific universe (manga, anime, video game, card game)?
My picks of seven demon lords. Neomyotismon lust doesn't have to be sexual but pleasure. Neomyotismon find pleasure in restoring and bring pain to digimon. Donedevimon wrath. that is let it angered become out of control that it lose it's intellisense and strike anything blindly. Abbadomon (Core) sloth. was that this laziness or lack of work was simply a symptom of the vice of apathy or indifference, particularly an apathy or lack of something. Murmukusmon greed. the desire to rule over and grain power. Bagramon pride. do to opponent god and not wanting to submit to him. Banishes god and replaced him. Gulfmon gluttony. Mouth that can swallow everything lead to the dark area. Ordinemon envy. Desire for other Not just jealousy. Ordinemon want to be the savor to reset, to end everything.
I feel like if Cherubimon Vice were to become a demon lord it would need to digivolve further like Daemon and Lillithmon. There are still a number of demons/fallen angles that it could take its name from so I doubt it would be impossible to think of one such digimon. I also feel that Grandracmon should be the digimon of lust as it is a direct digivolution of Gulfmon. The final spot of the 7 demon lords is a fusion of all 7 becoming an abomination so I feel that this monster would either be Ogudamon still (because they would hold all the 7 deadly sins) or a new digimon equal to Ogudamon X (since Grandracmon has the X antibody) Also I feel that AxeKnightmon X should also be one of the new 7 demon lords since he naturally is extremely powerful and already wants to become one of them. Alternatively they could even go beyond the 7 deadly sins if they so choose because there are actually a few more than 7 (being 9 iirc) but overtime they were seen not as sins. These are fear and deceit so I could see the the new 7 demon lords would try to make their team as 9 in order to have a greater chance against the 7 demon lords.
Weren't Apathy & Despair considered for being Deadly Sins in the past as well? Although Apathy is very close to the sin of Sloth I guess & I can still potentially see Lillithmon trying to join the new group.
Isn't that part of Patamon's Line though? Goddramon is 1 of many possible forms that Patamon can take it would probably be a lengthy video. Patamon has various armor evolutions, Angemon for Champion, can fuse with Ankylomon to become something Stage 5 I can't name, can become MagnaAngemon for Stage 5 & has various Stage 6 angels. Goddramon is it's holy dragon similar to how Angewomon can become Magnadramon. There's even a way for Seraphimon to get corrupted into Daemon.
Lilithmon gets her name censored to Laylamon in the west for one anime season, and immediately goes back to her correct name after that, but some people really clung on to that censored name for some reason...
@@majesticgothitelle1802 I don't know who told you that, but it is absolutely not correct. Her Japanese name is and always has been リリスモン, or put in our alphabet, "Lilisumon." Japanese doesn't have a "th" sound, and uses "su" to replace it, so her Japanese name is Lilithmon.
@@ultlifeform you right it was in fusion. That something I don't understand why fusion only used that name. But to rest use lilithmon the English card game, video games and so on
Lilith is supposed to be the mother & queen of Succu in Abrahamic Mythology right? Succubi were probably too sexual in nature for Nicktoons & it was also probably for similar reasons as the name change of Mr. Satan to Hercule in DBZ to avoid angering overly religious Americans. Part of the reason people like to use the name Laylamon is because it is a way of referring exclusively to the character appearing in Xros Wars/Fusion opposed to other adaptations of her. Beelzemon possibly only kept his name because Tamers made him too iconic to have his name changed.
I’ve seen this image before and I can’t say I agree with a lot of the choices. Bagramon and Murmukusmon are the only two I think might work. Grand Dracumon’s whole thing is that it’s a separate entity to the original group and someone demon lords don’t mess with. BelialVamdemon is waaaay too weak, so is Deathmon and Gulfmon if we’re going by feats especially. Cherubimon Vice is still an Angel Digimon and again it doesn’t have great feats. Half of the Digimon on this list are weaker than the actual Demon Lords while the others are stronger for the most part, seems like a really unbalanced group. The original was perfect and they fit their roles perfectly
Bolgbadamon’s group would likely be more effective, mostly because 2 of the OG 7 are usually sealed (Belphmon & Leviamon) and members like Beelzamon don’t care, acting like some loner anti hero that dislikes bullying.
How does Beelzemon fit the role of demon lord of Gluttony or Leviamon as demon lord of Envy? In Xros Wars/Fusion Beelzemon & Leviamon are heroes to where it doesn't make sense to even consider them Demon Lords. I will admit that half of the Demon Lords are perfect like Lillithmon for Lust & Barbamon for Greed.
@@bookmew1081 the 7 demon lords are not just a type of digimon but a specific one of that species. The demon lord Leviamon lives are the depths in the net ocean and hates everything that lives above it, and is said to so be the strongest monster type digimon to the point angels are scared of him. Looking at Beelzemon lore I can’t see it ether. But the primary reason they are part of the 7 is their names being derived from Judeo Christian myth where those demons are the manifestations of those sins
@@zabladestorm You expect me to believe that in the Digimon Multiverse there are only 1 of each Demon Lord & then all other individuals of those species are fakes? Do you know how many times the digital world was reset? Is the Demon Lord from this version really the same as the Demon Lord from the last? Next you'll probably say the Royal Knights are the same way even when that isn't the case with canon instances of them depicting them as different. See Dynasmon Frontier vs Savers for example. Even the Digidestined have tapped into the power of the Royal Knights with their Digimon. See Omegamon vs Diaboromon, Magnamon vs Kimeramon, or the feats of Gallantmon in Tamers.
@@bookmew1081 yes, tamers Beelzemon is not the same individual digimon as the 7 great demon lord Beelzemon, we know more then one of a digimon species can exist at the same time and they are not always the same strength as each other we saw this in adventure even, that would be like saying you and your friends are the exact same person because you’re both human. Digimon live very long lives and while it might be possible for groups like the royal knights to simply replace a member that was killed Yggdrasil probably has a way to make should it’s the same one, other groups would likely be furious if some random digimon of a type just started claiming to be a part of that group. Also servers, it is canon that the digital world has multiple servers like Yggdrasil’s server or Iliad or witchenly. So it is possible those are just different servers.
@@rayhayes7701 yes warrior of digigod is the Royal Knight they serve yggdrasil the god of digimon. And The three holy Digimon too. The only thing left is to make the seven angel lord and three whatever word is opposite word holy Digimon.
@@rayhayes7701 than we get the chthonic 12 base off of the deities who lives in the underworld with hades and be the counterpart to Olympian 12 that patrol and keep the dark area under control. 1# Plutomon, 2# Proserpinamon, 3# Morsmon, 4# Somnusmon, 5# Styxmon, 6# Scotusmon, 7# Angelosmon, 8# Melainamon, 9# Macariamon, 10# Charonmon, 11# Zagreusmon, 12# Tartarusmon
What I don't get, is why, despite having such an interesting lore, in most cases the Digimon animations (series/movies) have a rather shallow, generic plot that barely scratches the surface of said lore. That, and they often simply use insanely interesting digimon with little to no context or make them ridiculous comic relief (like lillithmon in xros wars). And let me be clear, I love the franchise and enjoy most animated series, I just think that there's a huge potential getting lost.
@@voidfields5065 could be, But still the lore is not a masterpiece of being mature either, I don’t think it’s unfit for kid’s shows, they could also asume Disney/Pixar or even Marvel movies approach, where the product is generally speaking, entertaining both for kids, youth and adults. I don’t see the need to dumb it down so badly when you can be clever about it and make it attractive to a broader audience, something similar happens with Gundam, gunplas are attractive to both adults and kids, and the series have very mature and gritty shows like thunderbolt or more childish like Build Fighters, a show that also adults could enjoy since the fan service there was entertaining. And let’s not forget about Digimon 03, I think that one had a pretty good balance in that matter. Their sales could get a good push if the animated series was more popular, but keeping it between mediocre and slightly good, it’s unlikely to ever get out of the existing fan base, maybe, I’m not an expert either haha I just like it a lot and think it would be amazing if it had better shows/games, etc.
Don't get too hung up on the lore written for the Digimon bios. They are just descriptions for the character designs. There really is no canon or hierarchy for character strength, just what the current anime writers want to write.
My version of the new seven great demon lords. Axknightmon would be pride. Shroudmon or megidramon or dandevimon would be wrath. Frosvelgrmon would be lust. Arkadimon or bellestarmon would be gluttony. Kingetemon would be greed. Metalseadramon or splashmon would be envy. Cyberdramon would be sloth. And the big bad of the group would be negamon/abbadomon!!!
There's no counterpart to Susanoomon as it is the strongest Digimon. All 6 of the demon lords, besides Lucemon are *probably* counterparts to the 3 celestials. Leviamon & Belphemon both being Cherubimon, Lilithmon & Beezlemon both being Ophanimon & Barbamon & Daemon being Seraphimon. GranDracmon is probably still weaker than Lucemon Shadowlord Mode. BoltBoutamon is probably still subservient to Apocalymon. The Lilithmon in Bagramon's army probably wasn't the great demon lord & Lucemon was probably still sore from the beating Susanoomon gave him. Ghoulmon is weaker than Barbamon, so not quiet that level. Lucemon (Shadowlord mode), Barbamon (OmegaArmamon Burst Mode), Daemon (Ultra), Belphemon (Rage Mode), Beezlemon(Blast mode) & Lilithmon(ZeedMillenniummon) are the only ones to go beyond Mega levels.
Actually susanoomon use to be but not even close to the strongest it’s omegamon 2020 of know beat zeed and stronger digimon like abdomon also merciful mode has stronger stat than all of them in the card game battle spirits. Dukemon cam and susanomon have same stats and alphamon ouryken has better stats than shoutmon x7 sm. But omegamon merciful mode has the most. Toei making omegamon like goku so much buffs crazy. Poll came out and omegamon was first on strongest digimon then jesmon gx
Susanoomon isn't the strongest with Overpoweredmons appearing everywhere not long after it was introduced. Also from what I understand Daemon alone is Seraphimon's counterpart, while Lillithmon is a Slide Evolved form of Ophanimon.
Gulfmon Bagramon Boltboutamon Murmukusmon Shroudmon Dandevimon Malomyotismon Dan devimon I think is much better as the "luster sin" And gulfman takes the "leviathin" role. As he is MASSIVE Shroudmon cause look at him. And I hate the design of goulmon.
I feel like if they really wanted to they could make version of these digimon that where just as powerful although I think there are many other evil digimon that would be cooler to see in this group like anubismon or plutomon
Anubismon & Plutomon aren't evil, although the same can be said for Beelzemon (who let's face it is only considered as 1 of the 7 Demon Lords because of Abrahamic Mythology & being named after Beelzebub in it) the guy is a total hero in Xros Wars right? Being in charge of things in the underworld doesn't make you evil exactly.
Lust, Gluttony, Wrath, Envy & Sloth are just types of greed. I intensely *want* something. I *want* to overindulge. I *want* to hurt someone. I *want* your stuff. I *want* to lay around.
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Oh dope, my comment got read out!
Though, listening back to it, perhaps I sounded a bit too critical of the idea. I was basing the power scale on their descriptions and previous appearances, but I realise that each digimon continuity is distinct so the writers can make digimon more or less powerful as the story demands. Ultimately I do quite like the idea of the New Seven Demon Lords but I think Cherubimon Vice should at least get an evolved form to be considered a demon lord just to be consistent with the other two.
I always thought Lilithmon was supposed to be equal in strength to Ophanimon with them being Slide Evolutions of eachother. Basically imagine Angewomon vs LadyDevimon & it should be the same for their Digivolutions. Daemon I'm not as familiar with so it could be Digivolved from a Fallen Seraphimon rather than a slide evolution. I don't think Cherubimon Vice is inconsistent with them exactly.
@@bookmew1081 I would agree if not for Ophanimon Falldown Mode, because it fulfills the role of an evil Ophanimon who's equal in power to the original. And their X-antibody counterparts treat Lilithmon as one stage above Ophanimon FM.
@@ChaosBloodNinja Digimon have a tendency to get retconned powerlevels that tend to favor certain Royal Knights & Demon Lords. Also doesn't help that new material becomes increasingly harder to access in English.
When I last checked the boundary between Stage 6 & Stage 7 was supposed to be a massive wall only partially passable by Burst Modes & fully passable by a few confirmed Ultra Levels & DigiXros Fusions. Then again back during Season 1 I'm sure the same thing was said about Stage 6 Digimon being insanely rare & special. Has a level beyond Ultra/Super Ultimate been reached yet?
@@bookmew1081 To my knowledge there still isn't a proper level 8 yet. Even media that does acknowledge the Ultra/Super Ultimate level is exceedingly rare. Like the TCG has a level 7 that lines up with the Ultras in Cyber Sleuth but are still only called Megas. In the Digital Monster X vpet the X versions of the Demon Lords and Royal Knights are in sort of a "Mega/Ultimate+" category shared with Rasenmon, AncientSphinxmon, Darkness Bagramon and Diaborumon X. With an even more powerful group consisting of only Ogudomon X and Jesmon GX.
@@ChaosBloodNinja We're not counting Xros Wars as canon right? Shoutmon x7 Superior Mode may actually be stronger than Jesmon GX. Stage 6 Digimon digivolve & are technically still Mega to where it is basically an Upgraded Mega. Burst Modes were once treated as being that Stage 6+ category. It's obvious that Yggdrasil didn't want Stage 7 to exist & only made a few exceptions.
When did the 1st Ultra Level appear? Right now I don't know what to think of the Megas who Digivolved from Megas. Do stages for Digimon lose meaning once you reach Mega? Digimon is quite complicated these days compared to when I was watching the anime as a little girl.
Digimon: A show originally made to promoted tamagochis but also having much deeper and well thought out lore than a lot of fantasy worlds out there. Sure why the hell not xD
My theory (or at least headcanon) is that out of all the Demon Lord digimon, Bagramon holds the best chances at defeating GrandDracmon.
Not because of its soul manipulating abilities, i doubt GrandDracumon has a soul, but because of something else.
GranDracumon is the king of vampire digimon.
Thus it possesses an immortal body.
A common method of killing vampires is with a wooden stake through the heart.
The king of vampires would obviously need a really special wooden stake.
Say a stake made from the holiest tree in Digital world.
And guess what Bagramon has for a right arm.
If you include Bagramon's two lesser know abilities, Invisible Snake-Eyes, which allow it to see anywhere, and Super-Dimensional Storm, which allows it to reach anywhere in the Digital World, Bagramon could strike from anywhere it wishes.
I freaking love the thought of bagramon just walking up to grandracmon and just poking it really hard and grandracmon getting deleted. I know this would not happen but still, let me dream.
@@hydra9476 Same XD
Yeah but you forget that granddracomon created the dark area he can just banish him deeper and deeper to the dark area or just create a punishment dimension for bargramon.
@@helloiwanttootakeoverthewo3217 Not sure if GrandDracmon can just create dimensions willynilly, but I do know that Bagramon can effortlessly move between dimensions, so you cant banish him in that manner.
@@HORRIOR1 ohhhh yeah I forgot he can do that.
One of my favourite parts about the digimon lore is how it makes you wonder how we every got to see it in a decently peaceful state while it's filled to the brim with over the top powerful forces with motivations to start shit with other factions.
I'd love to see a season where an established group like the Adventures or Tamers kids come back to the Digiworld and it's just an all out war on multiple fronts, no clear good/evil side, just groups like that fighting each other for selfish reasons and the kids being the only factions trying to end the conflict.
Imagien like the Dark Masters arc in adventures but instea dof waiting to get killed the masters also avoiding the 7 demonlords currently on a warpath through the Digiworld, loosing members to the royal knigths, killing one of the sovereigns and meanwhile everyone is afraid because Milleniummon starts to gian power on the other side of the world.
Basically absolute chaos and those groups beign in the middle of it.
Honestly a bit tired of single villian arcs or villian groups that end up feeling like just monsters of the week gettign finished 1 by 1
So for the Cherubimon entry about him being jealous of Seraphimon and Ophanimon he is referring to what happened in Digimon Frontier where Cherubimon became jealous of his peers and started a war against them
They even took that jealously in games, more so hackers memory as a side quest
Cherubimon references how Cherubem aren't liked nearly as much as the other angel classes in its sphere of important angels with the Seraphem & Ophanem both being higher class in heaven. I'm guessing Cherubimon was given half the spirits for a reason relating to it being treated differently from Seraphimon & Ophanimon. Despite living in the same highest sphere, the Cherubem are essentially Divine Animals. Still the lower 2 spheres of angels exist & their Digimon never get the acknowledgement like the highest sphere Angels get.
We have seven great demon lords and the new seven demon lords and both groups represent the seven deadly sins.
What we really need is group of digimon who will represent the seven heavenly virtues.
They had those in Adventure 2020. They never explored them though.
Grandracmon and Gulfmon have quadrupedal lower half's so I always thought of them as more 'Horsemen of the apocalypse' digimon then demon lords.
Honestly really like this idea, you did a good job explaining how all of these members could fit!
A while back I actually made an effort to create a slightly more extended version of the Seven Demon Lords: The Nine Demon Lords, which consisted of the original Seven members as well as the two unused Sins: Melancholy and Vanity.
Due to him being Superior to all seven Demon Lord, the founder was GranDracmon.
Ghoulmon was chosen as the Sin of Melancholy.
MaloMyotismon became the Sin of Vanity, "Belial" was choosen as his demon representative as a reference to his Japanese name: BelialVamdemon.
There were a lot of names for deadly sins, some of which overlap. Greed & Avarice are the same, Pride & Arrogance are the same, Apathy was another you forgot, & Despair is another name for Melancholy.
Awesome! Gulfmon and Grandracmon are especially creepy looking it's nice to see them get the spotlight a bit
Cherubimon feels like a far better choice as a demon lord due to it having it's reasons for being envious, and more characterization...unlike Leviathanmon which is basically just a big ol red gator that's apparently envious at everything in general. XD
Because leviamon is trapped due to how humongous he is, he barely have any room to do anything but stare what's above with lights.
He represents the leviathan in the Bible. The creature of envy
@@davidsaylors24 Yeah I get what he's based off of.
I'm saying he has very little to no characterization in the stories of Digimon. He doesn't have any big arcs, stories, or interactions with other digimon lore wise.
16:23 Truer words have never been spoken about the cruel murderer of Arukeniemon and Mummymon! The two best characters in all of Digimon! D':
I personally think Apocalymon would make for a good counterpart to Ogudomon. All three of them are of comparable strength but Digimon Adventure gave it a background that made it the combination of several digimon who died due to failing to evolve and some media also makes it the fusion of the Dark Masters, so as far as the fusion aspect goes, it's closer to Ogudomon than GranDracmon. I get that Gulfmon was reincarnated from Apocalymon and is probably around just as strong as GranDracomon and Apocalymon but in its current incarnation it lacks the fusion aspect. In fact, I actually find Gulfmon's inclusion as a regular demon lord baffling when it rivals GranDracmon in power.
I sort of agree with that commentator about Bagramon and GranDracmon. Those two have been confirmed and shown to be strong enough and powerful to not only disregard and challenge the Seven Great Demonlords; but also have withstand most if not all possible challengers. Bagramon, despite my dislike of him in Xros Wars as the sitting final boss, did command a Lillithmon and a Lucemon as his soldiers.
Personally I am curious about that manga series (unsure if it is fan-made or not) about the X evolutions. Since there was a showing of Darkknightmon X challenging Barbamon for the title of Demon Lord of Greed. Results unknown or if that lore will update in changing. However, I do think that those that hold a title of Demon Lord, especially the Seven Great Demon Lords, will need to be both strong and cunning to maintain that title.
Going back to Bagramon and GranDracmon, I think they see themselves as above the Demon Lords and would not lower themselves to obtain those titles. Maybe. Unless it benefits them somehow.
Now that we have a new Demon Lords group
Now I'd like to see something like the next Generation of Royal Knights with Jesmon leading them as their Leader
BloomLordmon should be in the new group, I love his design
@@Henry-jg5oj same goes for ragnalordmon
@@Henry-jg5oj also knightmon wise sword mode, but that's my opinion
Also add DarkKnightmon
I think this concept would be something insane for a Video Game or a Manga to show a "civil war" between the Great Demon Lords vs the new Demon Lords wanting to take over. It could be something like the Digmon Chronicle X but focusing on how the winner of this war could change and likely cause greater destruction upon the whole Digital World.
Grand rocmon definitely needs his own video as well
Yeah I was going to point out MaloMyotismon's weakness too. I think that the fact that a demon lord is powerful enough to challenge or beat one of the seven, they don't necessarily want to. Say, GranDracmon could just chill in his castle and not bother fighting for that spot. Same for being in a group, they could just want to be _the_ rulers of the Dark Area, with no one by their side.
I personally like to think that the new Demon Lords wouldn't need to exist at the same time as the original ones. Rather, the new group would be formed after the old Demon Lords are defeated from the remnants of their armies.
It not only fits in the lore by not putting the objectively weaker new Demon Lords (like Ghoulmon and MaloMyotismon) in contention with the stronger original ones.
But it would also create this setting where evil lingers despite the main threats being defeated.
Like Sauron becoming the new Dark Lord after Morgoth's defeat in Lord of the Rings, despite not being as powerful as his master.
You know, this actually gave me an idea for something very very interesting. A New Royal Knights team to go with the new demon lords.
Erlangomon fills the Garuramon DNA Digivolution spot of Omnimon, this was too easy for me honestly it just works so well based on concept alone. It works as Omnimon.
Shoutmon DX also works for a Magnamon replacement since they’re unconventional Digivolutions of Rookies that make them as strong as a mega and give them a gold coat.
Cannondramon is a huge dragon…no DNA Digivolution but don’t worry I use one with the next Digimon.
Ragna Loardmon fills Gallantmon’s role, both being heroic virus attributed Digimon
Achiliesmon is an animal like Digimon with a sharp weapon, Duftmon’s replacement.
Kazuchimon fits (in my opinion) in Crusadermon’s role but to be honest I couldn’t think of much better other than the main duo for the DIMs for this and Dynasmon’s replacement.
Siriusmon takes Dynasmon’s spot mostly because it’s a dragon like being.
Magna Kidmon replaces Gankoomon because of how he behaves, he’s a troublemaker with a good heart unlike his allies
Beowolfmon replaces UlForceVeedramon, really thought the two blue Megas with blades worked.
NoblePumpmon has a weird body part and looks agile, Kentarusmon.
Cres Garuramon looks durable and has a Lance, Craniamon’s replacement.
HeavyLeomon replaces JESmon really just a lucky Leomon who embodies the courage of JESmon
Gaioumom replaces Alphamon. Both are DORUmon Megas, both are natural carriers of the X-Antibody, both have major spots of the colour black, both have swords
There might be a "Hero Olympos XII" officially considering Achillesmon is a thing and Shivamon's existance indicates the Three Supreme Gods might be joining the Devas in being a hindu god group of digimon.
I always had an idea for a story where a Piedmon was hunting down the crests of the Seven Great Demon Lords to summon Ogudomon with the digidestined trying to stop him. He later stabs a Myotismon who was his general in the back and forcefully fuses with him into Boltboutamon. He later succesfully summons Ogudomon and fuses with it and now has it's legs coming out of his back like extra arms.
How about the new Royal Knights? What digimons would you consider will take the mantle for the current royal knights?
I actually thought up the same type of group of Digimon :O Except instead of Cherubimon evil i picked Diaboromon who then becomes Armageddemon. Insteae of following the seven 7 deadly sins again I just called them The Kabbals for many of them for their scheming and manipulative personalities.
Somehow I can see this new set of demon lords working together better than the old one. Their goals align and they have a unifying factor in Granddracmon who simply knows too much and one could argue was always in control. A good portion of the new seven demon lords also seem to have personal history and beef with the old seven demon lords due to either being manipulated by certain members or having their lives ruined by them, and the feeling is mutual with the old seven demon lords which means that a civil war is brewing in the dark area. After all there cannot be two groups of seven great demon lords.
With a new group of evil that means a new group of good will rise to match them. The royal knights are mostly entangled with the old seven demon lords. I remember El poyomon on Twitter was crafting his own group of seven angel digimon, we just need to get him to finish that group.
Hey Andres My friend,It is great To See you again!Who Do You Think Will Win,All The Ultra Beasts From Sun,Moon,UltraSun,And UltraMoon(Ultra Necrozma VS GrandDracmon Included)VS all Demon Lords,Old And New!I Liked Your last argument About Solgaleo,Lunala,And Ultra Necrozma!
@@chiedoziemuoma6419 probably the demon lords and I am only saying that because there is so little information on the ultra beasts. What makes ultra beasts dangerous is that there is so little known about them and due to the ultra wormholes they are still partially operating on their own dimension's laws instead of fully conforming to the laws that govern whatever dimension they are in, they are also in panic mode with their physical abilities augmented. There is simply not enough information on the ultra beasts and some of the information is honestly not that impressive for the pokemon world. So I am inclined to side with the demon lords who are distinguished individuals and a bit more substantial. If a bunch of ultra beasts gets dropped into the dark area they will most certainly cause havoc and be a bloody pain to deal with but it is likely that the demon lords and other forces of the dark area will find some way to boot the ultra beasts out of dark area and by extension the digital world and into some random dimension just so that they don't have to deal with them anymore. Ultra beasts are simply dimensionally displaced organisms, I doubt they will be able to beat the demon lords but they will cause a whole lot of damage and be a pain to deal with while also being quite useless to the demon lords and being more trouble than they are worth. If you are saying Granddracmon vs Ultra Necrozma (who by the way is a legendary not an ultra beast) then Granddracmon would just be ash. Necrozma is an interdimensional, sun eating, light dragon who is the one who is solely responsible for the existence of light and darkness in the first place and can be discribed as an energy being. Granddracmon as powerful and full of knowledge as he is, is still a digital lifeform whom do not like strong electromagnetic fields, which Necrozma certainly counts by default, and he is a vampire who do not like bright sources of light in general. You are just asking him to die, to fight a being whose presence will kill him, and he is smart enough to know when to make himself scarce and to know that there are some things you are better off not messing with. That is the equivalent of asking a random person if they would jump into a portal which connects to an antimatter world. That is suicide plain and simple.
How bout seven emperors...no one know bout em, thy actually stand above royal knight😍
@@andresmarrero8666 hello, this is the person who argued with you on and off around a year or two ago over Pokemon VS digimon stuff. You probably won't remember me. But ether way I wanted to apologize for all the fighting back then. That's all. I've been coming to terms with past mistakes and have been trying to make amends
@@Charagodslayer666 don't worry, all is forgiven.
it's Good to know.. Let us feel how Greater empowered it is.. We got an idea for it"
i was basing the power scale on their movements"
a bit too critical of an idea but then it's power superb!..
My favorite characterization for Grandracmon is from Dawn/Dusk where he is crime boss and arms dealer. We've never had a villain of that level of power motivated by business before. Having him as an organized crime boss would show him as a more modern form of villain rather than the more "primitive" power through strength alone types the former Great Demon Lords are.
I'd say Belphemon is my favorite demon lord
The next Group sould be based on the Nine Circles of Hell.
Whit a secondary Leader for Brutality, in eighter Apocalymon, or Negamon repressenting Suizid.
The Demonlords are cool and all, but there Status as strongest Demon Digimon does not make any Sense.
Grandracumon, Zeed Milleniumon and other big Names can rival Lucemon, or even Ougudomon pretty clearly.
So creating a new Group for the truely strongest Digimon might be a cool Idea.
I thought there were 10 Circles, although it is a very complicated structure in Dante's Inferno & some may not count the outermost circle which is a Limbo like area where philosophers endlessly discuss things.
I think you didn't give enough respect to such a cool idea.
you could easily turn it into a series: first, you explore the Digivolotion of all the 'great demon lords' (some of which you already did). then you explore them as a group, then do the same with the now demon lords, and finely compare the two.
this is a series I like to see, but it's just a suggestion!
thats a very interesting topic.bagramon for sure seems fit for demon lords.come to think about it,in digimon chronicles x ,darknightmon after achieving his x form went to fight barbamon and gain his place among the 7 demon lords.he should be mentioned lol i mean....he went to fight an x antibody demonlord and hoped to win
The future of Digimon is looking badass with more stuff to comw
It sounds like the dark area is a jail and the digimon inside of it are just convicts trying to gain ground, plutomon and anubismon they would be like judges and jailers.
Shadow seraphimon is one that brought more members. and start the darkkhights. And DNA Digivovle with belphemon.🌚✌️🔥👻
This was really interesting I would like to see something similar but for the Royal Knights, obviously not all members would be different Jesmon would still be in it cause he’s whole story was being trained by Gankoomon so when he’s gone there’s someone to step up to his place, so I think it be an interesting topic
Considering that like half of the Royal Knights were protagonists of early 1990s Digimon medias, the new one would be likely filled in with new gen protagonists as well.
So you'll get Susanoomon, Shinegreymon, Omegashoutmon, Arrestdramon, Gaiamon (if Appmon even counts), Omegamon Alter S, and whatever Gammamon's evolution will be filling 7 spots.
Here’s a thought exercise. What if we had dig destinations with “evil digimon” It can be a whole journey about define the expectations of the digital world, we can have the royal night constantly on their heels for being too dangerous to be left alive. You can spice things up by having the bancho team to drop in every now and again emphasize the whole choose your own path theme.
We can all brainstorm if it peaks your interest
I kinda like the idea of a “Dark Digidestined” team. As in, a set of 7-8 children that the 7 Great Demon Lords’ Rookie -level forms are parasitically using as batteries to reclaim their true forms (aka, Mega-level).
@@CatonusPrime98 I was going more for a just because they become things that are considered evil doesn’t mean they have to be,
but that’s also a cool idea 👉
Or the story could show that too much good is a bad thing too. Maybe a digimon war is needed to end stagnation.
@@nicholase82 Ooo i like the sound of that, getting some holy digimon on a holy crusade, we’re already getting some juicy ideas here
@@nicholase82 that just sounds like a contradiction to me. Good doesn't mean order which too much of it does result in stagnation. Good can be just as much chaotic as it is orderly, it can be as much in the shadows as it can be in the light, it depends on what is needed. Thing is digimon are orderly by nature due to being digital lifeforms whom everything is defined by 1s and 0s, yet they live in a world of chaos and perpetuate that chaos and will one of these days destroy itself. Chaos and war has become their order and in doing so has become stagnant.
11:59 Ghoulmon's profile says it becomes Ghoulmon (Black) before the ultimate battle. In the penultimate battle in Digimon Adventure: when the Soundbirdmon merged into Ghoulmon, it materialized as white but suddenly turned black, it's a nice nod to the Bandai lore.
I have to agree with last guys note on about 7 new demon lords
I'm watching this right now but I hope that you at least did a video or hinted to doing another video on the fusion or the x-antibody form lore of the specific Digimon
Ohh everyone will get a specific video for sure
I feel like the Seven Demon Lords concept is basically the seven challenges before the final boss, Satan. Heck, lots of lore states that GranDracumon is literally the Satan of the Digital World, with incredible knowledge and power. I would say "Negative-mon~Abbadomon" could be a threat to him and the others literally because its a threat to everything but Armageddemon and Arcadiamon Ultra can also be contenders for destruction.
17:55 Lilithmon
Great video. Btw, have anyone had the idea? That maybe there is a counterpart to the Royal Knights named for example, The Dark Knights, and being led by ChaosDukemon or Omegamon Zwart.
Do you think it's a cool idea?.
Doesn't alphamon lead the royal knights I'd have to be some kind of evil alphamon
Dexmon?
@@themostbritishpersonalive868 Maybe but in the X-evolution movie Alphamon is
Is considered a Legend among the royal Knights Therefore Omegamon in the leadership position make more sense
@@QuartzTLR idk out of all the royal knights (besides alphamon) I don't think omegamon would be the leader
@@themostbritishpersonalive868 Dukemon Crimson Mode then?
@@QuartzTLR yeah he seems like he'd be a good leader
Also replacing Beelezemon with literally anyone else is a great idea considering he's been made into a anti-hero/redeemed character far more often than as a dirt evil villain in the many Digimon stories at this point. XD
I agree . He’s a demon lord but he could either be a data or vaccine type . And I think the one in Xros wars seems a lot like a vaccine type
@@daltonoakleyjr391 And not even mentioning the Anti-Hero redemption arc we got in Tamers. XD
@@MRDLT00 that one I probably consider as a Data type demon lord since the Phoenix sovereign kinda manipulated him by promising Impmon power if he kills the Tamers . I Just know the one in Xros war was lowkey a servant to a holy goddess and trained with an Angemon back when it’s a Reapmon
Not to mention unlike the other 6 , he’s more of the type that just likes a good fight and doesn’t torture the weak . And doesn’t have any goals of really causing global destruction and chaos like the others
Malomyotismon always made more sense as Gluttony Demon Lord than Beelzemon & really if it wasn't for being named after Beelzebub there would be no reasoning to have him be 1 of the 7. When it comes to actual Demons in Abrahamic Mythology it's debatable who some of the 7 Demon Lords were with many Christians only believing in 1 Devil rather than many ruled over by Fallen Angels & Ungodly Monsters.
@@bookmew1081 even Beezlemon’s design doesn’t scream “great demon lord “ when compare to Daemon and Lucemon . It’s a nightmare soldier biker that’s more a data type(sometimes vaccine depending on how it grew up In life )
Holy sh*t talking Smeargles!.. I just realized that the music in the background is A Moment’s Peace from Dark Souls!..
Been waiting for this
I think Gulfmon fits envy more then lust, it's main driving force is that believes the universe rejects it in favor of other digimon.
As for who I would put as lust I think Millenniummon fits the sin of lust with it's temptations of power, it was created from two desires to make the most powerful digimon and in it's Moon=Millenniummon form it grants other digimon's wishes for power at the cost of becoming it's mindless attack beasts.
The other's are good choices though.
19:03 And it'd make for a good Slaaneshi with its attacks involving singing, which ties it further to L*st lol.
Imagine Digimon story that takes place in a fantasy world like dwarves, elves, orc, or a digimon story that is Grimm, dark in nature
GrandDracomon would be a good Demon Lord for Lust, king of vampires, one of the most lustful creatures written. We wouldn't have a fusion of all tho
In a Fanfiction im writing at the Seven Demon Lords and the New Seven Demon Lords are fighting against each other. Loved the Idea that they fought against each other. And i think Ghoulmon would side more with the Old Seven Demon Lords because Voltobautamons new Darkness wants to eradicate all Light and thats clearly not neutral.
Great video! I was wondering if something similar could be done with the Royal Knights?
Like should a member die, or go rouge, it would make sense to have a replacement ready, right? I’m not as good as picking members as everyone else here, but I was thinking that the three new mega level Digimon that the main characters from Ghost Game have: Siriusmon, Diarbbitmon, and Amphimon could be contenders since they really look like next Gen Royal Knights.
But of course, I would love to hear everybody’s opinions and ideas.
Will do!! I'll be using your comment here
Ordinemon might have been better for Lust, or just Raguelmon. Or Mephistomon X.
I prefer this group better than the original set . The only members I liked from the original 7 are Lilithmon, Daemon , and Beezlemon . But Beelzemon just seems too much of a loner and felt more like demon lord Digimon that is neutral with some vaccine attributes because of the two versions we seen in the Tamers and Xros War anime
I kind of agree that MaloMyotismon is a weak link, but there also aren't a ton of digimon that fit. Niddhogmon is probably the best one and a good fit for gluttony since it is constantly absorbing energy.
There is a thing I REALLY disagree about regarding the group's makeup - the fact that Boltboutamon and any Myotismon form in general are in the group simultaneously, when it feels like one would replace the other in a tug-of-war of control.
Since Bagramon's in, I'd probably put DarkKnightmon in as either a substitute for such a spot since his X counterpart's Ref book entry states he's aiming for a good chair, or a foolish eighth member who gets eaten by Bagramon to obtain his Darkness Mode.
19:03 And it'd make for a good Slaaneshi, which ties it further to Lust lol.
here's a fun thought, what if grandraco is pulling the strings to both groups of demon lords just to have fun and entertain himself xD
Ay is that the abyss stage from paladins. Man even digimon fans are representing underrated games
I can see how they can be rivals of the demon lord group
16:15 Is Myotismon really more evil than Millenniummon who altered reality to erase the events of Adventure or villains like Yggdrasil (DATS), Galacticmon, Bagramon, and Quartzmon who want to destroy (or merge with in Galacticmon's case) the human world? Also Apocalymon who basically wants to destroy _everything?_ Also the Digimon X-Evolution version of Yggdrasil was pretty damn evil itself, not quite on the same level but basically wanted to purge the digital world of all digimon, even the royal knights who blindly served it, even manipulating creating and manipulating Dorumon, whose true form was 13th Royal Knight Alphamon, to find a way around the X-Antibody. A slight contrast to the main Digimon X version whose version of Project Ark was actually meant to save 2% of all digimon, which is still evil but slightly less so (relevant bit of triva: the Project Ark virus or X-Virus couldn't really get into the Dark Area so the RKs had to kill the 7DLs personally).
I think watchign the show MaloMyotismon appears at least more evil than the villians before sicne you see the whole Oikawa capturing kids off the street thing and the show seems to imply the dark seeds come from him even though that's not the case. Apocalymon was kinda lame ont he evil scale, he had a miserable existence by nature and was just kinda jealous. Myotismon is the only early villian i can think of that seemed to activly go after humans, first in an open attack than in a malipulative and pretty dark way.
Of course the whole franchise seems a bit far fetched but he said it was a personal take so i dont blame him
A cool similar idea to explore would be this but instead of a second seven demon lords group there could be ten demon lords representing breaking the ten commandments. It would make more sense for weaker demon lord digimon to be part of a group that represents lesser sins.
The ten commandments in the bible are considered forgivable sins but its said that the seven deadly sins cannot be forgiven usually and are considered worse sins because they usually lead to the sinners death before repenting which results in eternal damnation.
For instance wrath could end with you dying during a fist fight before calming down and repenting and lust or envy could have somebody getting caught with his trigger happy neighbors wife, pride comes before a fall and overconfidence during a dangerous situation be deadly, greed leads to crime like robbery oftentimes and sloth and gluttony are a leading cause of death in many western nations via obesity. They are all very hard sins to stop doing once you start and often get ingrained in your psyche so much that they affect your whole life negatively.
Regardless of whether you are religious or not theres real wisdom in those parts of scripture, so much so that most religions have historically had some form of the concept. They basically boiled down the cause of all of 99% of humanities self inflicted problems into seven things to avoid.
A ten commandments team of demonlords would be a far better fit for weaker digimon like those and you even have room for diaboromon, malomyotismon and one extra for a leader that represents defiance of gods commandments as a whole. :)
Greed is more someone values their wealth more than their own life, Envy leads people to steal the possessions of others. Sloth is closely related to Apathy, or the inability to care about things which was a possible alternative sin to Sloth. Also it should be noted that the 7 Deadly Sins are actually needed in some capacity. Without Pride there wouldn't be respect & dignity, without Sloth we would work ourselves to death, without Envy we would have no desire to improve ourselves. There is supposedly only 1 truly unforgivable sin with even the 7 Deadly Sins being forgivable & it is a unique type of blasphemy where you refuse to accept god when you are in heaven.
Because of how human existence is we will automatically have at least some of our 7 Deadly Sins. Wrath is born from a desire to seek justice, while gluttony is born of our worldly need to consume things to survive, & greed is the desire to hold onto worldly possessions. Lust is essentially the original sin & part of why people seek out relationships to begin with in that it is a primal form of love that when properly controlled allows us to actually experience intimacy. What makes the 7 Deadly Sins as deadly as they are is because of them being unavoidable & part of who we are. The 10 commandments are a conscious choice that we follow them or don't rather than natural impulses that we need to prevent from going too far.
@@bookmew1081 too true. All of the 7 deadly sins are natural, unavoidable parts of being a functioning human but theres a strong cut off point where natural human behavior becomes a harmful vice if you dont keep it in check which often leads to some form of self destruction if not death. Thats what makes them the 7 DEADLY sins and not just normal biblical guidelines which aren't written to be as fire and brimstone as people think. In fact taking those other sins too seriously is why there's so many politically active people ready to ban religion if they get the chance. A lot of people join religions because think they can use it as way to act like a dick and feel morally justified while doing it. Theres a biblical term for fake religious people like that and its "hypocrite". A surprising amount of people don't know that the word used to mean that.
@@Coomamon_Memes I said it was important to control your Deadly sins & have them in moderation always making sure they don't go too far. I'm more than aware of religious hypocrites as they are insanely common in America. Our deadly sins can actually encourage us to take part in & study religion for various reasons. I did religion because I thought it made me seem cuter & would make me more liked.
@@bookmew1081 sorry i didnt mean to sound like i was correcting what you said. I guess i was unclear about what i was trying to say. I was basically saying that those things are natural and expected and are only sins once they get out of control.
Like just wanting a bit of spending money after living expenses for a hobby is technically greed but is not deadly so it doesn't count. The deadly part that comes from lack of control or is at the expense of other morals is the qualifier. The deadly sins are very different than other sins like that. The ten commandments and most other sins are very situational and God overlooks them depending on the situation. Like telling a lie to spare someones feelings. In that situation you're more guilty for telling the truth.
Deadly sins are sins or not based on severity which is why they are the only unforgivable sins that can be committed in life. They all lead to sudden death and when you die quickly like that you don't have time to pray for forgiveness and like you mention pride is the worst one because it makes people think they are always right and end up standing before God and rejecting him out of stubbornness just like lucifer.
@@Coomamon_Memes Even if your death is caused by deadly sin it isn't necessarily unforgivable. Supposedly there is mercy for those who repent at the gates & even if you do suffer for your sins it won't be forever. Lucifer Satan tried to steal God's Throne for himself alone & when he failed to overthrow God he was shown mercy supposedly. Having his request to rule his own Kingdom that he can tempt others to be part of granted by God.
His followers & their followers were allowed to join him. Ungodly monsters would inhabit this Dark Kingdom. Of course that's all we really know other than it being a poorly managed Kingdom full of suffering for the humans who end up there. There are a lot of different beliefs in regards to this stuff that seem to contradict eachother. In reality we can only speculate about this stuff while we live & try to live well.
There's supposedly a realm where sins get burned away as well to cleanse souls to where they can either be reborn or ascend to heaven. The H name is often used to refer to both the Demon Realm & Purgatory. There are also some who believe that the Demons work for God to punish the evil deeds of human prisoners until their sins have been atoned for. I hope RUclips doesn't delete this comment.
I would swap MaloMyotismon for GranDracmon, since Myotismon is a vampire and MaloMyotismon could be considered the same. GranDracmon being a the king of vampire digimon implies that it is simply better than MMyotismon. As for the 8th Fusion digimon, I would probably prefer a mode change of Ogudomon that reflects the new digimon that become it. Maybe something like Ogudomon Yggdrasill Mode or something to reflect Bargramon's influence.
I would have assumed that diaboromon was among the 7 demon lords. Seeing as how it’s name is based off of Diablo meaning devil in Spanish.
I thought a Digimon restarts life as a Digiegg regardless
Most series have them turn back into a Digiegg regardless, Tamers had them turn into clouds of data that could potentially reform as Digimon if they aren't absorbed. Data Squad/Savers made Stage 1:Fresh & Stage 2:In Training, the same stage & had the artificial Digimon known as Gizumon who could Delete Digimon. Rookie (Stage 3) Gizumon could delete Champion (Adult) & Lower Digimon without giving them a chance to be reborn. Also there are special cases like Wizardmon's Death.
For some reason I think Lilithmon would choose to be part of the new demon lords, although I admit half the old demon lords didn't make any sense. Why is Leviamon Envy when it's description is about it being capable of devouring the entire digital world? Why is Beelzemon considered a warrior of light & why are both Leviamon (Heroic Spirit Card), & Beelzemon considered as Heroic Digimon yet Demon Lords? What if the 7 Demon Lords are similar to the 7 Ninja Swordsmen of the Mist in Naruto?
Could Leviamon & Beelzemon have gotten banned from the group for being too heroic? Another video has the theory that Beelzemon heroically defeated Malomyotismon & then took his place, which makes it sound like the 7 Ninja Swordsmen of the Mist. The 7 Codes of Demon Lords could be passed around like Mist Blades with Lucemon getting being shown to take all 7 in Shadow Lord Mode. Also interestingly The 7 Deadly Sins have changed throughout history with Apathy & even Despair having been considered & many being referred to as different names so it makes sense that the members could change as well for the Demon Lord Group. Another interesting thing to note is that Boruto had the New 7 Ninja Swordsman of the Mist, which is somewhat similar to the idea in this video.
Remember Yggdrasil dont have controle over the dark area
Have to agree with the criticism on the likes of malomyotismon cherubimon and ghoulmon black. While ghoulmon black you could make an argument for to take a spot in terms of power, cherubimon despite being a strong mega on his end is rather weak in comparison to most of the others as it did get wrecked by Kaiser greymon and magnagarurumon two digimon that could barely win against the royal knights crusader on and dynasmon, unless that’s not the true scope of his strength or comes off as weaker than he’s suppose to be then I can only see him as a sort of seat warmer for the spot of envy for a different digimon. Malomyotismon though I say has it even worst as despite its power shown in adventure 02 I think that was more so an amplification he got from the special word he first went and then jumped to the digital word. Him pushing back the likes of imperialdramon fighter mode shakumon and silphymon isn’t my gripe it’s more so how he could be able to cause damage in both the digital and soon after the human world at the same time, that bit I don’t think was part of his base power especially when one of his attacks is considered to be only a fraction as powerful as the attack of ghoulmon black. And while power scaling in this series tends to make no sense, malomyotismon was used as a soldier during the fight against quartzmon in xros wars, indicating more that malomyotismon may not be as powerful as we thought he was in 02. As for gulfmon….it’s an odd case, he does show to be strong even as mephistomon, but his loss to wargrowlmon, rapidmon, and Taomon is weird. I want to say the three got a power boost in their digivolution with calmons help because they had some kind of combined attack where they turned crystal and attacked at once but there’s nothing to really tell and it’s honestly really weird.
I wonder if this stuff might hit the anime at some point
If you believe in yourself and with a tiny pinch of magic, all your dreams can come true
Wish they would make a new Digimon world game with game play like the last final fantasy game when playing the digi distant but when going into combat with other digimon it will change the gameplay to more of a dragonball xzenoverse style game this way the player can actually fly, fight, run, and perform all of the digimon abilities. The game should also include a roster just as big as dragon ball Z Budokai Takashi with all forms this way the game never gets boring…and this my friends is how digimon can be brought back.
Pleas talck about zeadgarurumon
Apocalysemon and the new boss in 2020 should be in the list
I'm confused...
Apart from the fan theory / head canon, is the lore about the seven great demon lords, the royal knights, etc. part of a specific universe (manga, anime, video game, card game)?
My picks of seven demon lords.
Neomyotismon lust doesn't have to be sexual but pleasure. Neomyotismon find pleasure in restoring and bring pain to digimon.
Donedevimon wrath. that is let it angered become out of control that it lose it's intellisense and strike anything blindly.
Abbadomon (Core) sloth. was that this laziness or lack of work was simply a symptom of the vice of apathy or indifference, particularly an apathy or lack of something.
Murmukusmon greed. the desire to rule over and grain power.
Bagramon pride. do to opponent god and not wanting to submit to him. Banishes god and replaced him.
Gulfmon gluttony. Mouth that can swallow everything lead to the dark area.
Ordinemon envy. Desire for other Not just jealousy. Ordinemon want to be the savor to reset, to end everything.
I would've replace MaloMyotismon or Ghoulmon with Death-X Dorugoramon.
I feel like if Cherubimon Vice were to become a demon lord it would need to digivolve further like Daemon and Lillithmon. There are still a number of demons/fallen angles that it could take its name from so I doubt it would be impossible to think of one such digimon.
I also feel that Grandracmon should be the digimon of lust as it is a direct digivolution of Gulfmon. The final spot of the 7 demon lords is a fusion of all 7 becoming an abomination so I feel that this monster would either be Ogudamon still (because they would hold all the 7 deadly sins) or a new digimon equal to Ogudamon X (since Grandracmon has the X antibody)
Also I feel that AxeKnightmon X should also be one of the new 7 demon lords since he naturally is extremely powerful and already wants to become one of them.
Alternatively they could even go beyond the 7 deadly sins if they so choose because there are actually a few more than 7 (being 9 iirc) but overtime they were seen not as sins. These are fear and deceit so I could see the the new 7 demon lords would try to make their team as 9 in order to have a greater chance against the 7 demon lords.
Weren't Apathy & Despair considered for being Deadly Sins in the past as well? Although Apathy is very close to the sin of Sloth I guess & I can still potentially see Lillithmon trying to join the new group.
Can you please make a explaining God dramon digivolution line
Isn't that part of Patamon's Line though? Goddramon is 1 of many possible forms that Patamon can take it would probably be a lengthy video. Patamon has various armor evolutions, Angemon for Champion, can fuse with Ankylomon to become something Stage 5 I can't name, can become MagnaAngemon for Stage 5 & has various Stage 6 angels. Goddramon is it's holy dragon similar to how Angewomon can become Magnadramon. There's even a way for Seraphimon to get corrupted into Daemon.
What Digimon series involved the 7 demon lords
interesting Video
Bro I didn't know grandracmom was a demon lord been grinding to get the demon Lorde's in Cyber sleuth and I've had one forever now
Lilithmon gets her name censored to Laylamon in the west for one anime season, and immediately goes back to her correct name after that, but some people really clung on to that censored name for some reason...
Laylamon is here Japanese name
@@majesticgothitelle1802 I don't know who told you that, but it is absolutely not correct. Her Japanese name is and always has been リリスモン, or put in our alphabet, "Lilisumon." Japanese doesn't have a "th" sound, and uses "su" to replace it, so her Japanese name is Lilithmon.
@@ultlifeform you right it was in fusion. That something I don't understand why fusion only used that name. But to rest use lilithmon the English card game, video games and so on
Lilith is supposed to be the mother & queen of Succu in Abrahamic Mythology right? Succubi were probably too sexual in nature for Nicktoons & it was also probably for similar reasons as the name change of Mr. Satan to Hercule in DBZ to avoid angering overly religious Americans. Part of the reason people like to use the name Laylamon is because it is a way of referring exclusively to the character appearing in Xros Wars/Fusion opposed to other adaptations of her. Beelzemon possibly only kept his name because Tamers made him too iconic to have his name changed.
I’ve seen this image before and I can’t say I agree with a lot of the choices. Bagramon and Murmukusmon are the only two I think might work. Grand Dracumon’s whole thing is that it’s a separate entity to the original group and someone demon lords don’t mess with. BelialVamdemon is waaaay too weak, so is Deathmon and Gulfmon if we’re going by feats especially. Cherubimon Vice is still an Angel Digimon and again it doesn’t have great feats. Half of the Digimon on this list are weaker than the actual Demon Lords while the others are stronger for the most part, seems like a really unbalanced group. The original was perfect and they fit their roles perfectly
Bolgbadamon’s group would likely be more effective, mostly because 2 of the OG 7 are usually sealed (Belphmon & Leviamon) and members like Beelzamon don’t care, acting like some loner anti hero that dislikes bullying.
How does Beelzemon fit the role of demon lord of Gluttony or Leviamon as demon lord of Envy? In Xros Wars/Fusion Beelzemon & Leviamon are heroes to where it doesn't make sense to even consider them Demon Lords. I will admit that half of the Demon Lords are perfect like Lillithmon for Lust & Barbamon for Greed.
@@bookmew1081 the 7 demon lords are not just a type of digimon but a specific one of that species. The demon lord Leviamon lives are the depths in the net ocean and hates everything that lives above it, and is said to so be the strongest monster type digimon to the point angels are scared of him. Looking at Beelzemon lore I can’t see it ether.
But the primary reason they are part of the 7 is their names being derived from Judeo Christian myth where those demons are the manifestations of those sins
@@zabladestorm You expect me to believe that in the Digimon Multiverse there are only 1 of each Demon Lord & then all other individuals of those species are fakes? Do you know how many times the digital world was reset? Is the Demon Lord from this version really the same as the Demon Lord from the last?
Next you'll probably say the Royal Knights are the same way even when that isn't the case with canon instances of them depicting them as different. See Dynasmon Frontier vs Savers for example. Even the Digidestined have tapped into the power of the Royal Knights with their Digimon. See Omegamon vs Diaboromon, Magnamon vs Kimeramon, or the feats of Gallantmon in Tamers.
@@bookmew1081 yes, tamers Beelzemon is not the same individual digimon as the 7 great demon lord Beelzemon, we know more then one of a digimon species can exist at the same time and they are not always the same strength as each other we saw this in adventure even, that would be like saying you and your friends are the exact same person because you’re both human. Digimon live very long lives and while it might be possible for groups like the royal knights to simply replace a member that was killed Yggdrasil probably has a way to make should it’s the same one, other groups would likely be furious if some random digimon of a type just started claiming to be a part of that group. Also servers, it is canon that the digital world has multiple servers like Yggdrasil’s server or Iliad or witchenly. So it is possible those are just different servers.
hello sir how about my Tokimon made by my own monsters please.
I wonder since the Seven Demon lords are the arch nemesis of The Royal Knights what if they got a new line up as well.
Seven angel lords for each virtue
I said The Royal Knights not God's Army
@@rayhayes7701 yes warrior of digigod is the Royal Knight they serve yggdrasil the god of digimon. And The three holy Digimon too. The only thing left is to make the seven angel lord and three whatever word is opposite word holy Digimon.
@@majesticgothitelle1802 and you can't replace the Olympus 12 because well that's hard enough.
@@rayhayes7701 than we get the chthonic 12 base off of the deities who lives in the underworld with hades and be the counterpart to Olympian 12 that patrol and keep the dark area under control. 1# Plutomon, 2# Proserpinamon, 3# Morsmon, 4# Somnusmon, 5# Styxmon, 6# Scotusmon, 7# Angelosmon, 8# Melainamon, 9# Macariamon, 10# Charonmon, 11# Zagreusmon, 12# Tartarusmon
The only question I have is if the demon lord symbols grant extra power?,and if so than comparing their power is a mistake.
What I don't get, is why, despite having such an interesting lore, in most cases the Digimon animations (series/movies) have a rather shallow, generic plot that barely scratches the surface of said lore. That, and they often simply use insanely interesting digimon with little to no context or make them ridiculous comic relief (like lillithmon in xros wars). And let me be clear, I love the franchise and enjoy most animated series, I just think that there's a huge potential getting lost.
It's called
Children watch the anime and buy the toys
While adults maybe play the game and read the lore
@@voidfields5065 could be, But still the lore is not a masterpiece of being mature either, I don’t think it’s unfit for kid’s shows, they could also asume Disney/Pixar or even Marvel movies approach, where the product is generally speaking, entertaining both for kids, youth and adults. I don’t see the need to dumb it down so badly when you can be clever about it and make it attractive to a broader audience, something similar happens with Gundam, gunplas are attractive to both adults and kids, and the series have very mature and gritty shows like thunderbolt or more childish like Build Fighters, a show that also adults could enjoy since the fan service there was entertaining. And let’s not forget about Digimon 03, I think that one had a pretty good balance in that matter. Their sales could get a good push if the animated series was more popular, but keeping it between mediocre and slightly good, it’s unlikely to ever get out of the existing fan base, maybe, I’m not an expert either haha I just like it a lot and think it would be amazing if it had better shows/games, etc.
Don't get too hung up on the lore written for the Digimon bios. They are just descriptions for the character designs. There really is no canon or hierarchy for character strength, just what the current anime writers want to write.
In most incarnations, Lucemon is treated as the strongest of the SGDL.
My version of the new seven great demon lords.
Axknightmon would be pride.
Shroudmon or megidramon or dandevimon would be wrath.
Frosvelgrmon would be lust.
Arkadimon or bellestarmon would be gluttony.
Kingetemon would be greed.
Metalseadramon or splashmon would be envy.
Cyberdramon would be sloth.
And the big bad of the group would be negamon/abbadomon!!!
There's no counterpart to Susanoomon as it is the strongest Digimon.
All 6 of the demon lords, besides Lucemon are *probably* counterparts to the 3 celestials. Leviamon & Belphemon both being Cherubimon, Lilithmon & Beezlemon both being Ophanimon & Barbamon & Daemon being Seraphimon.
GranDracmon is probably still weaker than Lucemon Shadowlord Mode.
BoltBoutamon is probably still subservient to Apocalymon.
The Lilithmon in Bagramon's army probably wasn't the great demon lord & Lucemon was probably still sore from the beating Susanoomon gave him.
Ghoulmon is weaker than Barbamon, so not quiet that level.
Lucemon (Shadowlord mode), Barbamon (OmegaArmamon Burst Mode), Daemon (Ultra), Belphemon (Rage Mode), Beezlemon(Blast mode) & Lilithmon(ZeedMillenniummon) are the only ones to go beyond Mega levels.
Actually susanoomon use to be but not even close to the strongest it’s omegamon 2020 of know beat zeed and stronger digimon like abdomon also merciful mode has stronger stat than all of them in the card game battle spirits. Dukemon cam and susanomon have same stats and alphamon ouryken has better stats than shoutmon x7 sm. But omegamon merciful mode has the most. Toei making omegamon like goku so much buffs crazy. Poll came out and omegamon was first on strongest digimon then jesmon gx
Susanoomon isn't the strongest with Overpoweredmons appearing everywhere not long after it was introduced. Also from what I understand Daemon alone is Seraphimon's counterpart, while Lillithmon is a Slide Evolved form of Ophanimon.
You done the evolution line of syakomon… yet, and you talk about new demon lord candidates?
Gulfmon
Bagramon
Boltboutamon
Murmukusmon
Shroudmon
Dandevimon
Malomyotismon
Dan devimon I think is much better as the "luster sin"
And gulfman takes the "leviathin" role. As he is MASSIVE
Shroudmon cause look at him. And I hate the design of goulmon.
I feel like if they really wanted to they could make version of these digimon that where just as powerful although I think there are many other evil digimon that would be cooler to see in this group like anubismon or plutomon
Anubismon and Plutomon aren't evil however so it wouldn't make sense for them to be there.
Anubismon & Plutomon aren't evil, although the same can be said for Beelzemon (who let's face it is only considered as 1 of the 7 Demon Lords because of Abrahamic Mythology & being named after Beelzebub in it) the guy is a total hero in Xros Wars right? Being in charge of things in the underworld doesn't make you evil exactly.
I like the new 7 more
Seraphimon has 3 veriants seraphimon black seraphimon and shadow seraphimon
Ophanimon Chrono and seraphimon black team up with ophanimon fall down and shadow seraphimon
Bagramon can solo all of them dude.
Lucemon...... In Rookie
That is all
Dark animal digimon?
NEW DEMON LORDS are overall WEAKER individually(mostly) and their fuse form
Shame there aren’t more femme mega level demon Digimon. Then all being masc or big monster like Digimon is rather boring, at least to me.
Like why not add BelleStarmon as another one? Just spit balling here
Ordinemon...
True!
Lust, Gluttony, Wrath, Envy & Sloth are just types of greed.
I intensely *want* something. I *want* to overindulge. I *want* to hurt someone. I *want* your stuff. I *want* to lay around.
Um, why does anyone care Yggdrasil lost some wood? Its not going to make it any more terrible.
Fun theory but these mons are weak compared to the demon lords.