Barrio Barretto to SBMA to Angeles City and Back - The Grand Tour

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  • Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2024

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  • @fayestueben-oe4dg
    @fayestueben-oe4dg 8 месяцев назад +1

    Beautiful building ❤

  • @richardparague7522
    @richardparague7522 8 месяцев назад +1

    I love this video, I’m hoping to take this ride one day.

  • @lucynuzzello7154
    @lucynuzzello7154 2 года назад +2

    Hi, I've been watching you for years and can't understand why you don't have 100 thousand subscribers then I looked I'm not a subscriber. Today I am 👍

  • @jonledin9693
    @jonledin9693 2 года назад +1

    Hi. Enjoy watching your site. Kids are a gas to watch. Lots of joy with them best of luck always.

  • @mikelou2422
    @mikelou2422 2 года назад +1

    Saw a lot of places we used to hang out in AC and Baretto , thanks Marcus

  • @johndove1972
    @johndove1972 3 года назад +7

    Im 49....ima 70's baby. I remember those days riding in back of pickup trucks the back glass of cars..never put a seat belt... parents arm was the seat belt them were good ole day's, damit boy things sure have changed..love the videos brother keep em coming

  • @angies.4961
    @angies.4961 3 года назад +5

    I get so happy when I get the notification that you have uploaded a new video and then to click on it and it's over a hour long!!!! 🙃😉🙂😆😁🙂

  • @StevenGodfrey3956
    @StevenGodfrey3956 3 года назад +3

    Brilliant video king 🤴👏 . Thanks very much, , love the long videos. Take care mt friend 😊💪👏😎🍻🥃

  • @bluelagoontipplerloft6130
    @bluelagoontipplerloft6130 2 года назад +1

    Awesome 😇💙

  • @kevinhunter3542
    @kevinhunter3542 3 года назад +7

    My hike this morning. Agreed the speeding kooks on that portion a Barretto. I used to fet mad when I moved here 22 months ago = now I have to chill being ex Military&Cop. Life is Great here !!

    • @MissionaryInMexico
      @MissionaryInMexico 2 года назад

      There's a BUNCH of us ex-cops and ex-military subbed here... And most of us are not living in the USA. It takes a little time to adjust to any not-American culture of people just being a little on the rambunctious side. But the overall sense of liberty anywhere outside of the USA is very comforting. As a retired cop I can say, without hesitation, that the USA has become a police state, going by the changes I've seen over the past 39 years since I began in law enforcement. (Retired in 2015). If you do a RUclips channel of your everyday stuff, I'll watch. God bless.

  • @batangfirst5993
    @batangfirst5993 Год назад +2

    Barrio Baretto OLONGAPO ✨⭐️

  • @sandiegocountydashcamspy1814
    @sandiegocountydashcamspy1814 3 года назад +6

    Thank you so much for the tour, Marcos, loved every mile!

  • @robertcrooks8143
    @robertcrooks8143 3 года назад +3

    ive been going to Philippines for 37 years one thing i did learn early days was just keep your cool

  • @keithmelton4795
    @keithmelton4795 2 года назад +1

    Cool Vedio

  • @Prof.Z_Maxx
    @Prof.Z_Maxx 2 года назад +1

    Appreciate the ride along Brother. Camera stable; audio 👍🏾. Thx again. Beautiful fam. Later. ✌🏾

  • @EverybodysSenator4US
    @EverybodysSenator4US 3 года назад +1

    I admire your powers of observation, the little things and details like the red paint....you rock Marcus

  • @edic2619
    @edic2619 3 года назад +4

    We are into all KING'S videos.
    Great vids.

  • @hanlindsey
    @hanlindsey 3 года назад +1

    Hello Barrio Barreto. We enjoy watching your channel

  • @gabeu5469
    @gabeu5469 3 года назад +3

    Da king with another awesome video n drive

  • @tinaraphael9783
    @tinaraphael9783 3 года назад +2

    You're right you have to practice patient in the Philippines. Love the grand tour Mark.

  • @gregorymark5493
    @gregorymark5493 3 года назад +1

    Nice travel video. Thanks brother for your video. On time.

  • @mighty690am
    @mighty690am 3 года назад +4

    Even a rainy day car trip is more fun in the Philippines

  • @leroywhite101
    @leroywhite101 3 года назад +1

    King Marcus your video show every little details that's very good that's up to you and your two kids and wife you sure a lot of the Philippines that I always read about

  • @Sipods
    @Sipods 3 года назад +4

    Great tour of Angeles city, never been there but feel I know the place after this and many other insightful videos! Thanks for the day out!

    • @angies.4961
      @angies.4961 3 года назад

      @Simon Thomas... I totally agree with you. Everytime Mark goes for a walk I feel as tho I know the turns to go to the Bakery to Sittin Bull... and all the other places! I only hope to go there one day and experience the beautiful Philippines!!!

    • @Sipods
      @Sipods 3 года назад +1

      @@angies.4961 Thanks Angie. Yes I feel well acquainted with all of his haunts now. I've been to Baguio and spent quite some time there which is a beautiful place but never to Marcos's neck of the woods. One day hopefully we can all hang out together! ❤

    • @francesmcdonald8145
      @francesmcdonald8145 3 года назад

      May be Fatima is pregnant,she needs to stay away with those meds

    • @angies.4961
      @angies.4961 3 года назад +1

      @@Sipods yes that would be wonderful if that ever could happen!! Take care luv!!

  • @tinaraphael9783
    @tinaraphael9783 3 года назад +3

    Those babies are so adorable and Fatima their mother is cute.

  • @derekslaven3454
    @derekslaven3454 3 года назад +1

    ENJOYED your road trip and the tour round Angeles, maybe just maybe i will get to enjoy getting out there one day as it is the place to be , thanks again,, stay safe, take care,

  • @barriesquires596
    @barriesquires596 3 года назад +1

    Loved The video will know exactly where To go when I come over Another Awesome Video From The King watching From here in The UK about 6,780 miles away

  • @FOCUSonASIA13
    @FOCUSonASIA13 3 года назад +8

    Its amazing how easy the trip is now compared to 80s and 90s. You would never think of going back and forth in one day before, now its a breeze with the expressway

    • @FOCUSonASIA13
      @FOCUSonASIA13 3 года назад +3

      @Thaddeus Batangas is not on the route between Angeles City and Barrio Barretto, you took a wrong turn somewhere LOL

    • @FOCUSonASIA13
      @FOCUSonASIA13 3 года назад +2

      @Thaddeus LOL every time damn spell check. I have not been to Bataan yet, tried when I was down in Subic but they wouldn't let us in back in July. Gonna try again soon with our vaccine cards.

  • @titojeffslife5874
    @titojeffslife5874 3 года назад +2

    Maria is a trooper! brave little girl getting that test!! And so gwapa.

  • @inmyopinion651
    @inmyopinion651 3 года назад +1

    I have took the old route and new and it still amazes me how great the expressway is.

  • @watersbey25
    @watersbey25 3 года назад +2

    @1:0452 Bretto's Deli & Coffeeshop Clarkview, 508 Don Juico Ave, Angeles, 2009 Pampanga, Philippines
    That place is great you should walk inside If you're getting burnt out on Filipino food. Feels like you're Europe. wonderful delicatessen with many imported food goods. Excellent meat pies.

  • @keinokfarang851
    @keinokfarang851 3 года назад +1

    For speeders,caltrops work good. They’ll be at the vulcanist shop all day.

  • @DHud0726
    @DHud0726 3 года назад +1

    The snoring..... Fatima crashed out on the rainy trip back! HAHA!

  • @BrianandMoe
    @BrianandMoe 3 года назад +5

    A little off Topic, but Mark’s recommendations to the WH, Military were spot on in 2012! Wish they took just a little of you’er advice - I’m referring to Mark’s book @ Killing Sheep” uncanny how Mark predicted what happened in Afghanistan now- 10 years ago…..

    • @Pat_KraPao
      @Pat_KraPao 3 года назад +1

      Anyone paying attention could have predicted what was going to happen. History always repeats itself.

  • @susanlazenby210
    @susanlazenby210 3 года назад +2

    Tabi tabi po-please excuse me. It’s an apology for invading the spirits’s space. It maybe a superstitious belief, but it’s better to take precautions than taking a risk of being ill just for being dumb🤔😁.
    I’ve been watching & have subscribed, my family used to stay in Barretto (property still exists). 2/3 of my family came to the US, 1/2 of us already retired & have returned to the Philippines. I’m still here in Texas, but working in Cali as Nurse House Supervisor for hospitals up in northern Cali Bay Area & just accepted a managerial position for ICU/Medical-Surgical units. Retirement is coming soon, planning to retire in the Philippines. Loving each videos you upload, they help me get reacquainted with the realities of current living in Barrio Barreto.
    Thank you👍🥰.

    • @watersbey25
      @watersbey25 3 года назад

      It's better to say Tabi Tabi Po then take a risk of getting ill for not saying it? Okay. Anything you say, Sunshine....

  • @edic2619
    @edic2619 3 года назад +2

    KING...
    On the move again.

  • @megawega6370
    @megawega6370 3 года назад +2

    Great video. When you were going through the zig zag where John Paul lives, that is where the final battles of the Battle for the recapture of Bataan occurred between Jan 31 and Feb 14 1945. Your Sony cam did just fine at 4k/30fps....I actually liked the quality better than the iPhone.

    • @gman8844
      @gman8844 2 года назад +1

      my father was in that Battle to recapture Bataan

  • @intuitivesean443
    @intuitivesean443 3 года назад +2

    I remember in 2001 when I was in angles I met the guy who owned opened the Las Vegas bar he was a casino engineer in Las Vegas he opened the Treasure island casino and had worked for the Las Vegas water district

  • @batangfirst5993
    @batangfirst5993 Год назад +1

    we ❤🎉 it

  • @kellyloveall1528
    @kellyloveall1528 3 года назад +4

    Marko,,,, I understand you !!!!!!!!!!! As im sitting here watching your video,,,,,, I wonder if Fatima commented on every dude she saw how you would be...... I understand gotta be one dominant in relationship.... but don't rub it in her FACE

  • @HeavenReservation
    @HeavenReservation 3 года назад

    The local pharmacist here said they only charge P1,400 for that same place you went to! You really got ripped at P5,700. Try and find a few good contacts in AC before go to places, you'll be able to save a little next time. You make a lot of good points in your video, that's why I recommend to all people who want to retire and move to the Philippines and you have a family, join a nice church. You'll get lots of nice honest contacts in the church (at least more than taking chances outside) and they will really help you when in need. In, fact, after your visit to the testing center, you actually passed the church on the road that was my home church before covid restrictions...What a nice family your have! Next time, take the kids to the Clark Museum, they will love that 4D movie theatre when they get a little older.

  • @ramroddrone5449
    @ramroddrone5449 3 года назад

    Mark. Dave Australia here I just watched every minute of that video thanks mate it was awesome. When you got into Angeles I think I had a tear in my eye I did live there five years until this virus started, every street you went in Angeles I rode my motorbike every day can’t wait to get back looks like it won’t be till next March they will let us out of the jail here in Australia thanks again

  • @Echo4Hotel40
    @Echo4Hotel40 3 года назад

    Yet another great tour! Great Memories.

  • @levelone7143
    @levelone7143 3 года назад

    Thank You for another great video I would love to see you in the roof top pool condo one thing this Halloween project has taught me is to not settle, life is way too short

  • @EdwinCV-dh8qc
    @EdwinCV-dh8qc 5 месяцев назад

    O. S. ,Great video on area .

  • @kuyabaste6934
    @kuyabaste6934 3 года назад

    Good afternoon Marcos, Im looking to head over to Philippines next July love to get you a meal/beer and chat for a bit.

  • @tonyhondo416
    @tonyhondo416 3 года назад

    Hey Marko. Correction on the place to apply for a SRRV visa. The PRA(Philippine Retirement Authority) is no longer located in the Azzoro hotel. It's now located across the street on the second floor of Saver's Mall.

  • @rolandolazarte7611
    @rolandolazarte7611 3 года назад

    That building on the right, i believe that's the 0ld Dispensary.

  • @KC-in9px
    @KC-in9px 3 года назад +4

    You should give the iPhone 12 mini to your goats in the Province so that they can call you from time to time.

    • @bagladey
      @bagladey 3 года назад

      Fatima said they sold the goats.

    • @KC-in9px
      @KC-in9px 3 года назад

      @@bagladey Thanks Capt. Obvious..... it was a joke intended for Mark.

    • @bagladey
      @bagladey 3 года назад +1

      @@KC-in9px You’re corny and why are you writing personal messages in the general comments?

    • @KC-in9px
      @KC-in9px 3 года назад

      @@bagladey Why not?

  • @natesquestyouknowthatsrigh8269
    @natesquestyouknowthatsrigh8269 3 года назад +2

    Is that wife #1 snoring in the background? 😆😴

  • @markgoldberg6034
    @markgoldberg6034 3 года назад +2

    Put out a "Don't get runned over " T shirt.

  • @daddybob6096
    @daddybob6096 3 года назад

    Your right mate, if you've got blue eyes and white skin, you get charged the Cano price, been there done that. It was a long way, the V Hire would have cost an arm and a leg. You have got good kids and a nice wife in Fatima, and you are a good Dad. Bob. NZ.

  • @batangfirst5993
    @batangfirst5993 Год назад

    yes Barangay Cabalan ✨Kalapati🎉😊

  • @constantinoperalta6453
    @constantinoperalta6453 2 года назад

    Maria where you want your Papa to sittt? Without saying a word I just like the way how she pointed her finger hahah

  • @kaylegirvin184
    @kaylegirvin184 3 года назад

    Marco...what can I say...I cannot believe they did that to Maria Mercedes!? Im soooo pisssed off for yall...she's just a baby! They do that to Forest G too?! You guys in the Philippines have got to be THE MOST PATIENT EVER! God Love yall Sir Marco! Thank you for showing me everything! I still LOVE Fatima's other top that's my favorite. You put Fatima in that orange dress 👗 ...she'd look sooooo good! Thank you for the trip Kind Sir! I loved that you did this trip in style! Congrats too being off the wagon! You're showing such perseverance too with the B.S. you had to deal with. Don't film the Church? He was just being an A-Hole Marco! Lol! Proud of who you are my friend! Have a great day with your family! 🥰🙂🙃🙂👍🏻💕💞🤲🏻🙌🏻👐🏻👐🏻 You gotta go get the 👙BIKINI for Fatima! 👍🏻

  • @outlawd1
    @outlawd1 3 года назад

    I like this route ,,,,route 66 and Barrio Baretto the national highway That's when you know you've made it in life,, living in the Philippines in Barrio Baretto at 7-11, So Some sailors waited years on board ship (in the fleet ) to get liberty in Subicbay, Johnny got "stationed dito" right out of engineering school great lakes Illinois how's that for Luck ? I like the Marko quote "troop of Monkees" that's a battalion, sir ! a division of commandos. and they will rob you blind eat you food gone with the wind.

  • @red-whitemaple8540
    @red-whitemaple8540 3 года назад +1

    You have po box so we can send gifts to the fam jam!!! From Canada!

  • @EDINTHEWIND
    @EDINTHEWIND 3 года назад +1

    Hey King! Hope all is well.

  • @Neal_only1
    @Neal_only1 3 года назад

    Sounds like the old housing area close to cubi point AB

  • @philippinesunfiltered421
    @philippinesunfiltered421 3 года назад

    👍👍👍

  • @intuitivesean443
    @intuitivesean443 3 года назад +3

    I wonder if I move retire to angles since I’m prior military I wonder if I could get a cemetery plot on the old Clark military cemetery?

  • @ursiny33
    @ursiny33 3 года назад

    Giant. Volcano in the b acknowledged. Ground

  • @brentonakers7753
    @brentonakers7753 3 года назад

    Theres a story behind them couple old boats you seen before canal road my friend

  • @slimdownsafely2466
    @slimdownsafely2466 3 года назад

    ♥️💖♥️💖♥️♥️

  • @MyPilipinasTravels
    @MyPilipinasTravels 3 года назад

    Enjoyed the video as always . Seems like people are getting rich from the testing over there . No wonder they are not moving forward like other countries. The testing is a gold mine !

  • @collegedropout2004
    @collegedropout2004 3 года назад +2

    Damn ex wife #1 made me late to another OSR World Premiere!

  • @jamesrucker
    @jamesrucker 3 года назад

    Yes

  • @bradbryant3810
    @bradbryant3810 2 года назад +1

    Dude, do you do "Debt Collection" supervisory work" I have Pinoys doing a big debt job, from a Chinese/Pinoy, who scammed stupid me for $286K - yeah, I know.....a lot, I know... I didn't think of you when I got these guys. We're almost done. Got him! and his wife and fellow conspirators (he had a boiler room in Manila doing a fake crypto platform, showing high profits - people get greedy (I did!) and some (like me!) send a lot of money. He just lies, takes the money, and hides....betting no one will be able to find him! WRONG! But it cost us "casualties
    " Now he's "restrained", and must arrange to wire money back into my account. A world-class dirtbag, Bro'! You got some BAD guys in the Philippines! Rizal is where we nailed him!!

  • @ccarter5681
    @ccarter5681 3 года назад

    Mark, DO you know what happened to Benny ThaMac ????

  • @RayHaffenden
    @RayHaffenden 3 года назад +1

    On the Bataan Death March they loaded the prisoners onto cattle trucks at San Fernando Rail Station to Tarlac - it was still operational than.

  • @troymagnum
    @troymagnum 2 года назад

    1:10:40 Stand by one!!! What is that thang??!!

  • @gloriawingate5183
    @gloriawingate5183 3 года назад

    Why did Maria have to be checked ? She is a good child so sweet 🥲

  • @larrybishop188
    @larrybishop188 3 года назад

    Think about this BRO: In my area of Arkansas, we pull up to the County Health Department and they come out and test you for covid. The results are immediate and it cost NOTHING> You need to think about CHINESE COVID, it is real. Both me and my wife had it on July 20 and I thought I was going to die.

  • @PaulBaldaro
    @PaulBaldaro 3 месяца назад

    You worry about your audio. Every video I watch the audio is fine

  • @brianbarton777
    @brianbarton777 3 года назад

    The iPhone 12mini has a clearer picture. And has better light capture

  • @mikeare2002
    @mikeare2002 2 года назад

    Yikes that's an expensive test!

  • @dreamerofficial4045
    @dreamerofficial4045 2 года назад

    I tell you you sure have a couple of cute kid's w/ you for some reason when you pair w/ an asian and American usually the outcome is verry beautiful kid's what a breed it is "God Bless"

  • @ronaldch7365
    @ronaldch7365 3 года назад +1

    Hey mark if I wanted to live there could I live on 1084.00 a month ? I like to live cheap ! Thanks Ron

    • @Pat_KraPao
      @Pat_KraPao 3 года назад

      You could but I wouldn't recommend it.

    • @ronaldch7365
      @ronaldch7365 3 года назад

      Ok can I ask why?

    • @Pat_KraPao
      @Pat_KraPao 3 года назад

      @@ronaldch7365 Simply not enough to live a comfortable lifestyle that you are used to in your country.

    • @truss6282
      @truss6282 3 года назад

      Hey bud, follow the 1,2,3 rule and you'll be fine.
      1000 you don't drink smoke or chase women
      2000 you drink and smoke
      3000 you drink smoke and chase women

  • @stephenGDL
    @stephenGDL 3 года назад

    Marcos does Benny thamac have social media or still posting? His RUclips only has older videos

    • @craigieboy7283
      @craigieboy7283 3 года назад +1

      Guy has gone broke

    • @stephenGDL
      @stephenGDL 3 года назад

      @@craigieboy7283 what's his background seemed like he was doing alright before saw a few vids of his place in Australia and traveling constantly

  • @ernestwickliffe5769
    @ernestwickliffe5769 2 года назад

    Foreign guy Maria and Forest G do look like Fatima

  • @freekimsurr
    @freekimsurr 3 года назад

    HEY MARK....IM FROM USA....JUST CURIOUS ....WHEN U GET UR PENSION OR WHEN FOLKS SEND U MONEY FROM USA OR ANYWHERE I GUESS ....DOES THE VALUE GO UP OR DOWN OR STAY THE SAME ? I WANNA COME TO PHILLIPINES BUT IM SOOOOOOO SCARED TO FLY. #CRYBABY
    I MISSED MY TWIN BROTHERS WEDDING IN ITALY BECAUSE OF MY NERVES. MY DR EVEN GAVE ME SOME XANAX N I STILL COULDNT DO IT.
    LOVE UR FAMILY!! DARLN KIDDO'S

  • @selvakumarraj7147
    @selvakumarraj7147 3 года назад

    Nice question to your wife no 1 hahaha

  • @jocundfackler1959
    @jocundfackler1959 3 года назад +1

    Can I also send on po box ...

  • @foxthx1138
    @foxthx1138 3 года назад

    At 28:00 the horn is for the "White Lady" . So she does not get into your car and go home with you!

  • @cladglas
    @cladglas 3 года назад

    the 'no church filming' probably has to do with the occasional bombing in the past.

  • @dreamerofficial4045
    @dreamerofficial4045 2 года назад

    Yes overstay they have to do something about the no speed limit no law in highway and residential it's like Audobahn in Germany hahaha

  • @rawsomeone1
    @rawsomeone1 2 года назад

    Subic looks like any American city. It should be an example for the rest of the country. Especially the power lines!!!! Hahahahaha hahahahaha hahahahaha 🤣

  • @DuranjrJuan
    @DuranjrJuan 3 года назад

    Same here son. Grew up the same way. Im still alive and kicking. Can't stand those skinny jeans and call of duty mofos. Take that 10-100.

  • @mela6046
    @mela6046 3 года назад

    nice highway... no potholes ....like in NYsh!+y (I already changed 7 tires since the pandemic, on 2 cars, hard 2 get tires , I got 1 car w/3 diff tires,my SUV Yokohama all weather tires cost over $300 each needed 4 ...so expensive & it ain't even the one that I wanted I had 1 choice)
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  • @clintoni856
    @clintoni856 5 месяцев назад

    his comment on the gent walking with the hardhat i guess ' but you ever notice how people in the west that have decent upbringing and genuinely want and try to be honest,fair, never seem to get a break they mess up the world seems to come down on their heads without mercy!
    and ofcourse the negative side ,come from brokenness come up in poverty crime environment
    negative choices streetlife on many instances , who do you see driving the the nice vehicles ?
    nice homes money seem to be having fun ? drugdealers gangsters ,mobsters,the big heavy hitters in these lifestyles ! WHY ?
    it seems to me this world has been converted into a cesspool of negativity to such an extent it changes the very atmospheres
    for example if vou live in a christen environment that co-environment no-oneever thinks of negative words or doing underhanded things to one another ! i just find that interesting .do it the right way, suffer ,do it contraryand case and point .

  • @jeromewalzak7890
    @jeromewalzak7890 3 года назад

    HEY MARK.... OPPS I MEAN HEY (KING) JUST REMEMBER ITS A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY U CHOOSE TO LIVE THERE SOOOOOOOOOOOOO U HAVE TO PLAY (THIER GAME) PAY THE PIPER ON THE CHARGES FOR THE TESTING ................. O BY THE WAY THEY'RE FREE HERE IN THE USA !!!!!ENJOY THE PI MY FRIEND, YOUR LIVING IN PARADISE AS U PUT IT .

  • @JosephByrd-xw3ym
    @JosephByrd-xw3ym 3 месяца назад

    Hello my friend I pray. Look sir I see what you're doing . Sir I'm on disability and homeless but I am alive. So what I have seen could I send you money to fed the homeless Sir ? My MRI.joe

  • @mela6046
    @mela6046 3 года назад

    funny lookin' trees (but nice & old) by Clark (by the fence, thick w/short top)
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  • @DavidLimaco-lf6qq
    @DavidLimaco-lf6qq 8 месяцев назад

    Hey bro, try to not giving your son snacks and cheetos, or any sort of artificial things, for the sake of his health...I say it with all my respects and from the bottom of my heart.

  • @antoniodemontano6015
    @antoniodemontano6015 7 месяцев назад

    Especially the young ladies of her village okay 🤔🤔🤔🤔

  • @keinokfarang851
    @keinokfarang851 3 года назад

    Are those plastic crocodile teeth on your hat gonna melt ?

  • @antoniodemontano6015
    @antoniodemontano6015 7 месяцев назад

    Why do you keep on scoping out Fatima's family members okay.. That's very disrespectful to your wife!!!!

  • @danielboomers
    @danielboomers 3 года назад

    there is no way anyone can be sober in AC... and if they try the suffer mentally...