The first thing that came to my mind when I heard this question was Song of Songs and, to a lesser extent, Ecclesiastes. Both are attributed to King Solomon in the opening line (though Ecclesiastes doesn't name him and because of that I have heard it suggested that it wasn't written by him). In Jewish texts such as the Talmud, we are told who wrote some of the books, but these aren't necessarily literal, and some aren't unanimous. The ones that make the most sense I think are Esther (written by Mordecai and Esther, who write the "letter of Purim" at the end of the book, which can be understood as the book of Esther), Psalms (at least partially King David--some opinions credit him for the whole book but others say he compiled his psalms and the psalms of nine other people such as Asaph into one book), and Lamentations (Jeremiah). Interestingly, Samuel is said to have written Judges, Ruth, and Samuel (until the point where he dies, where the authorship switches to the prophets Nathan and Gad). The thing about this is that it makes sense that he would have written those books for the purpose of getting the nation to accept King David (and earlier Saul) as king. I don't know if there is hardcore evidence for any of these but I think it's interesting.
Brave effort at objectivity in Biblical scholarship. Thanks. It remains quite nauseating that many people who are usually fundamentalist believers think that Moses and the other patriarchs right back to Adam were real people.
I bet that Ezra the scribe wrote the book of Ezra, and as a studied, I believe that Shafan the scribe's family were the editors of the first half of the Nevi-im (mainly samuel-kings)
That's an incredibly biased view that isn't shared by scholars Nehemiah ezra and chronicles are considered one book and was compiled by someone scholars call "the chronicler" and is absolutely without a doubt pseudopigrapha.. there was no 'Nehemiah'. That's your ' faith ' talking not the facts
@@4everseekingwisdom690 My dissertation was on Ezra-Nehemiah. The idea that the chronicler wrote Ezra-Nehemiah is a hundred years old and hasn’t been widely believed since the publication of Sara Japhet’s early work in the eighties. Plenty of scholars view Nehemiah in particular as a historical figure who composed parts of the text that bears his name.
@@Frst2nxt No lol. Genesis shows that these people believe in many Gods. Genesis 1:26 is a great example. Lets us make them in OUR image. Referring to many Gods. Yahweh even loses to another God in 2nd Kings 3. He was also the son of El Elyon says deuteronomy 32 8-9 in our oldest form of this text. All in all, no, God isnt 3 people.
@@KaijuOfTheOpera "Let us make man in our image" refers to the divine council of angelic beings The God has never "lost" to any lesser god, YHWH always comes out on top "God being the son of El Elyon" is a recent conspiracy theory that tries to disproves the trinity in an attempt to commit multiple heresies Jesus himself references and even talks about God being multiple persons all throughout his ministry and the biggest ones are when he claims to forgive sins, brings the dead back to life, and yet still claims to not have as much authority as The Father
@@tobertcordless2491 The divine council is with other Gods not angelic beings. You can see this is psalm 82. 2nd Kings 3 talks about Yahwehs defeat to Chemosh and the Meshe steel is an outside source to this event. Making this story historical to some point. Deuteronomy 32 8-9 talks about El Elyon giving Yahweh to the Israelites. I don’t understand why you call scripture in its oldest form a conspiracy. Jesus’s story isnt recorded by eyewitnesses so we have no idea what Jesus thought or said. If you want to disprove the Trinity, just read the Bible. The Trinity was seen as a heresy in early Christianity. The Trinity would be completely foreign to the historical Jesus You talk about conspiracies while following made up things that arnt biblical. You don’t care what scripture says, you care about what your beliefs are.
The first thing that came to my mind when I heard this question was Song of Songs and, to a lesser extent, Ecclesiastes. Both are attributed to King Solomon in the opening line (though Ecclesiastes doesn't name him and because of that I have heard it suggested that it wasn't written by him).
In Jewish texts such as the Talmud, we are told who wrote some of the books, but these aren't necessarily literal, and some aren't unanimous. The ones that make the most sense I think are Esther (written by Mordecai and Esther, who write the "letter of Purim" at the end of the book, which can be understood as the book of Esther), Psalms (at least partially King David--some opinions credit him for the whole book but others say he compiled his psalms and the psalms of nine other people such as Asaph into one book), and Lamentations (Jeremiah). Interestingly, Samuel is said to have written Judges, Ruth, and Samuel (until the point where he dies, where the authorship switches to the prophets Nathan and Gad). The thing about this is that it makes sense that he would have written those books for the purpose of getting the nation to accept King David (and earlier Saul) as king.
I don't know if there is hardcore evidence for any of these but I think it's interesting.
Brave effort at objectivity in Biblical scholarship.
Thanks.
It remains quite nauseating that many people who are usually fundamentalist believers think that Moses and the other patriarchs right back to Adam were real people.
I bet that Ezra the scribe wrote the book of Ezra, and as a studied, I believe that Shafan the scribe's family were the editors of the first half of the Nevi-im (mainly samuel-kings)
By Shaphan the scribe, are you referring to the one mentioned in Josiah's reign (who finds a scroll in the temple)?
@@apoet-y6c yes
That's an incredibly biased view that isn't shared by scholars Nehemiah ezra and chronicles are considered one book and was compiled by someone scholars call "the chronicler" and is absolutely without a doubt pseudopigrapha.. there was no 'Nehemiah'. That's your ' faith ' talking not the facts
@@4everseekingwisdom690 My dissertation was on Ezra-Nehemiah. The idea that the chronicler wrote Ezra-Nehemiah is a hundred years old and hasn’t been widely believed since the publication of Sara Japhet’s early work in the eighties. Plenty of scholars view Nehemiah in particular as a historical figure who composed parts of the text that bears his name.
@@abhbible The bro really tried to pull the "bias" card against someone who did his PhD on that particular topic, hahaha. This backfired awesomely.
The Bible is a Jehovah book (Isaiah 43:10-12) and written by witnesses starting by Moses.
Genesis 18, YHWH proven to be THREE PERSONS.
@@Frst2nxt No lol. Genesis shows that these people believe in many Gods. Genesis 1:26 is a great example. Lets us make them in OUR image. Referring to many Gods. Yahweh even loses to another God in 2nd Kings 3. He was also the son of El Elyon says deuteronomy 32 8-9 in our oldest form of this text. All in all, no, God isnt 3 people.
@@KaijuOfTheOpera
"Let us make man in our image" refers to the divine council of angelic beings
The God has never "lost" to any lesser god, YHWH always comes out on top
"God being the son of El Elyon" is a recent conspiracy theory that tries to disproves the trinity in an attempt to commit multiple heresies
Jesus himself references and even talks about God being multiple persons all throughout his ministry and the biggest ones are when he claims to forgive sins, brings the dead back to life, and yet still claims to not have as much authority as The Father
@@tobertcordless2491 The divine council is with other Gods not angelic beings. You can see this is psalm 82.
2nd Kings 3 talks about Yahwehs defeat to Chemosh and the Meshe steel is an outside source to this event. Making this story historical to some point.
Deuteronomy 32 8-9 talks about El Elyon giving Yahweh to the Israelites.
I don’t understand why you call scripture in its oldest form a conspiracy.
Jesus’s story isnt recorded by eyewitnesses so we have no idea what Jesus thought or said.
If you want to disprove the Trinity, just read the Bible. The Trinity was seen as a heresy in early Christianity. The Trinity would be completely foreign to the historical Jesus
You talk about conspiracies while following made up things that arnt biblical. You don’t care what scripture says, you care about what your beliefs are.