Giant Contact Switch cartridge replacement
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- Check out the footnote video for extra info on grease type as the PPL-1 is not the best grease available for this: • Footnote †: Use slick ...
Recently the dropper on my bike started to misbehave; it was only going up halfway or sometimes would not move at all. I ordered the replacement cartridge after some searching online and decided to make a tutorial from the replacement.
Hope you find this useful, if you have any questions leave them in the comments sections and I'll do my best to help out.
This is where I found the replacement cartridge (make sure to check length and year before you buy yours) :
- www.amaincycli...
Tools used in the video:
- Slick Honey Grease: www.jensonusa.c...
- Crank Brothers M19 (With Chain tool): amzn.to/2hk196F
- ParkTool 3-Way Allen Tool: amzn.to/2h9BJrY
Please review the footnote video for important information on grease type and quantity!!!
ruclips.net/video/1U4A_RCDTXg/видео.html
Great. Thank you for the clarification. I overlooked your footnote comment. I'll look-up for the lighter grease you recommended for the cleaning and maintenance for my Giant Contact Switch Seatpost. I asked a tech at a bike store and he wasn't sure but recommended using a lubricant like an oil, and why not chain lubricating oil for the moving part. I can understand the post would call for water repellent grease too. Thank you again for the clarification.
Decided to watch your how-to playlist.
Man that's so little travel haha.
Good video. Thanks. Got my dropper post moving smoothly using this video but then the cartridge failed a few weeks after. Luckily still under warranty. Hopefully the new 2018 droppers are more reliable.
Thanks Chris. Glad it worked for you and sorry to hear about the reliability issues...
They seem to be hit or miss, reliability for me has been stellar, but I have a buddy on his third cartridge.
Dude, thank you so much for this! Picked up some Slickoleum and serviced my dropper on my 2017 Trance. My cartridge is still good, just needed the innards cleaned and regreased (was kinda feeling gritty when I would drop it). Turns out V3 of the contact switch is very similar to your V2. It's sliding buttery smooth now!
Nice man! Glad to have helped, nothing like putting in some elbow grease and fixing stuff for almost free.
yo you got the 2017 post? did you just pull out the stanchion like in the video? thanks
A hell of a lot better than the crappy reverb! I hope the process is very similar to the 2018 models! Great video!
+mtb_d4n I share your hatred for the reverb, how can a company that makes a fork as great as the pike make a dropper as shitty as the reverb?
Glad you found the video useful
Excellent videos and thanks for the clarification on the proper type of grease! (see video link in description for the proper type of grease and correct placement on the seatpost.)
Happy you found the videos useful!
Awesome video, saved me some money.. they wanted to charge me nasty at my lmtbs. Thanks bro.
I have a 2015 giant trance advanced
Glad to hear I could help out James! Nothing better than saving some money and getting the satisfaction of doing it yourself.
I love my Trance, but my seatpost died not too long after i bought the bike. I was fine as I still had an old Thompson post that I replace it with.
Thanks for the video man! Mine just went on my bike and have to replace it
Thanks for the video. I have the same bike and my post is acting up as well.
Glad it's helpful, it's a simple job and will make it behave just as new. Let me know if you have any questions.
Nice Video...i have the same seatpost and it tends to play side wise, a little more than usual. thanks
Thnx. I've been lucky with mine and it hasn't done that, but I have heard it happens to a few of them.
BlindstuffMTB do u think tightening the bolts would help? any suggestions?
Where is the freeplay? It may be the transparent plastic sliders. You may want to ask here, this forum is great: forums.mtbr.com/giant/giant-contact-switch-seatpost-666774-3.html
Really nice guide. Thank You for sharing ;)
Happy you found it useful
Great video Bro. Keep it up and remember to Live-Life Loud!!
Thanks man!
TOP man. Good service guide. This is what RUclips is all about. Cheers.🥇
Thanks man, glad it was useful to you!
I bought my Giant Seatpost SL on 03/2015 and rode it for about 8 months and then had my Giant Trance in the garage for over a year. I just got back into riding thsi past week and noticed the seat will not come back up as you describe. Of coutrse it now out of the 2 years warranty.
Is it possible that the old grease just dried up and greasing up the parts might help or is this cartrige expiring after 2 years even when not used?!
What grease is recommended for the maintenance and/or cartridge replacement?
Great video.
Thank you
Just got me a Giant Contact Dropperpost. Is it normal that when I push the button, I still need to give the saddle a jerk for it to go down after staying for a while, then after that, it goes down after each push of the button without any problem? but when it's been inactive for a while, it kinda seize up and need to be given a jerk for it to compress, otherwise it comes back up and every other thing is fine. Maybe I am not just used to dropperpost, but guys, is this normal?
If you can get it "unstuck" by sitting on it the first time. Yes it's kinda normal. If it needs more force than that, no. I'd recommend storing it in the extended position. You can also grease the post lightly with something like slick honey grease or sram butter to help.
@@BlindstuffMTB funniest thing is, I just got it. It's like 2 days old.
Very good video. I am probably going to buy this seatpost in the second hand market (tight budget...), do you know if your model or the older/newer ones can run the cable outside the frame instead of internally?
Thanks! IIRC, it can do both, you just have to remove the cartridge and install it backwards, but you may want to check on that, I don't have this bike anymore, so don't remember 100%
Thank you very much for your answer
Thanks for perfect tutorial.
By the way, I now need exactly the same cartridge for this seatpost. Can someone help as I can't get it anywhere. I have the same cartridge number as in this video. Thank you!
Thank you my good man!
Happy to help!
How do you know if the cartridge needs a replacement?
so helpful. thanks!
Happy to help!
Will I did ride my MTB sporadically until July 2016. Then it was kept in my car for three days when moving (heat exposure), then stored in indoor. The grease you used is the Parktool PPL1, if I can't get it what other grease you could recommend I could get from a HomeDepot or other Hardware store? Also, it is not a happy surprise if my cartridge needs replacement with the little use it had. Anyhow I'll take it apart next chance I get over the weekend. Thank you again for a detailed video.
Hey Donat, it may not be broken 100%, before buying a replacement, i'd try to clean and regrease it. Sram butter or Slick honey grease are good. There may be some home depot equivalent, but I really don't know.
Take a look at the footnote to the video, it has a bit of important info.
ruclips.net/video/1U4A_RCDTXg/видео.html
Hello, good video. I have a bike Giant of 2017 and has this seapost or similar. My seat has lateral movement, about 5mm , is not good riding. Dou know what is the problem?. could be the two plastic pieces? It knows where I can buy?
Thaks
Ramon
Hey Ramon, I sold that bike already, I don't really know what the problem could be, but that sounds to me like it could be a warrantyable issue, have you spoken to your local bike shop?
I have a 2019 Giant Stance, the dropper post isn’t as responsive it takes a second or 2 from when I push the finger switch before it moves. Could this be the beginning of it needing replacement or service?
Maybe. But I'd check the cable first since it cheaper and simpler. If you know that works, then consider the cartridge
Nice video! i have an issue, my droper do not hold de seatpost, i mean, when i want to push down de seat, it rise again even when i´m not pushing de trigger, any idea of what the problem can be??? i bought my bike in november 2017 so i don't think the cartridge needs to be replace. if any idea will be great. cheers!
I would start by checking the cable or pull mechanism. It sounds like the cable is staying pulled.
Sounds like your cable is too tight.
Nice video man, if you ever want to stop your videos from having static you might want to download audacity.
Thanks! Appreciate the suggestion, I honestly can't notice static in this video, but its just perhaps the fact I need better headphones haha! This was recorded with a Zoom H1, I'll check with other headphones to see if I notice anything and make sure to pay attention to that for the next one.
Thanks for the video & just wondering if this one will fit on my Giant trance x0 2012 thanks
Glad you found it useful. You have to check what version of the seatpost you have to be sure, but considering your bike is a 2012, I'm pretty sure you have a first generation which means the replacement cartridge has been discontinued (www.amaincycling.com/giant-contact-switch-seatpost-cartridge-350mm-first-gen-1729-contac-402/p424689)
Hey mate, reading your comments I just realized the replacement I need for my 2012 reing is out of production. In that case which alternative can you suggest?
Giant should replace it under warranty, had mine replace 2x
Mine was out of warranty at this point.
Yo Blindstuff... I am not sure what grease to use... please help me!
By the way, great video! Too bad GIANT does'nt use better cartridges on original mount!
Happy you found the video useful. There's a footnote video in the description with more info, but you can use buzzy's slick honey.
@@BlindstuffMTB yo!! Really hard to find a cartridge here in Paris France! Giant store is asking me to replace the whole seat system because the bike is too old (2016)!!
$$$$$$$ businesssss
They called Giant in Holland but for the moment no answer!!
I can’t go biking for the moment.. no saddle..
Really disapointed!
@@sageJr1987 I found a company in Italy that sells them and will post but they aren't cheap. Around 50 euro.
Do you have the 150mm dropper?
I had some made in China, they fit the 150mm but only give you a 125mm drop. I had them send me 5. I would send you one at cost of postage if you want.
@@ransouthall3497 Yo! I found the last cartridge that’s left in France I’m sure... It was taking the dust since years at a Giant store... I was really lucky... about all’Giant stores in France aren’t getting delivered accessories ordered at the mother Giant in Holland....
I’m not sure of’the length of my drop. I got to mesure it. All I know is that my bike is from year 2014 (and not 16 like I said before). The serial number written on the original cartridge is: 40608700-400.
How long are the ones you got?
Thanks a lot for your help. I appreciate it.
Oh yeah, It cost me 76€!!
Hi, I have the same problem with my giant Seatpost, i tried to order a new cartridge on that link but it says that cartridge has been discontinued by giant which would be my next cartridge option
Hey James, I don't have that bike anymore. My seatpost was a 1st generation (which is what was discontinued), you have to figure out which gen your seatpost is to see what cartridge you need. As far as I remember, all the newer gen ones use the same one.
@@BlindstuffMTB thanks for your reply man... still I have no idea how to figure that out and at the store they want me to buy the whole Seatpost all over ($315).. no way...
@@jamesmolina1923 yeah no way. If you end up having to replace the whole thing (hich I don't think you'll need), check out the PNW components droppers. Super reliable and good pricing
I have the same version and cartridge type as in this video. Could find a replacement anywhere in the UK. Closest was Italy, and for £60, ~$90.
Ended up sending drawings of spec to a company i found on alibaba in China. I had them make me some up. They're heavier than the original cartridge, but I had them make them to withstand a higher load, I weigh about 220lb without kit. Got them to make them to 200kg - 440lb. If you read the small print for this post it stipulates not for riders of 75kg - 165lb.
The design of this cartridge isn't great. The tip held between the two pins holds all the riders weight and I think pinches on the release pin and makes it stick. The later models use a screw method to hold the cartridge and don't suffer the same issues.
Anyway. I ordered 5 of these cartridges from China cost me $22.
They weren't perfect, because of the extra load capacity they cartridge body was a little larger than the original. Meaning I lost a little of my drop. From 150mm to 125mm. However I'm still riding on my first one more than a year later.
And I've got 4 spares should I need them.
My 2018 Trance 2 is less than a year old. How am I sure if it's the cartridge or something else. It comes up too slow. Adjusted cable at handle bar...better but still slow.
Its hard to know for sure, but, I'd assume that's the issue. If you can remove the post and clean it up on the inside, same as this video, without changing the cartridge and its still and issue that may be it. On the other hand, if I were you, I'd try to just get warranty through your LBS as a first attempt.
@@BlindstuffMTB Hey man thanks for the response. I called the shop that you linked and a tech told me that it may be the cable has stretched. I put up a good argument (I think) and he said that believe it or not the cable can be stretched to the point that it will act as I described. Mine is definitely more "sticky" than yours. He thinks it's too new to be the cartridge. He also said that on any cartridge change, he always replaces the cable. Anyway, I have the cable just need to make time to replace. Your vid is a big help on getting this apart.
@@EnuffsEnuff318 Happy I could help, appreciate you letting me know.
@@BlindstuffMTB Turns out there is a little button on the cartridge that gets pressed when the cable pulls on the little actuator. The button was rusted and gunked up. Hit it with some WD40 and it freed it up. Now it works like a champ. Still replaced cable and the newer cable does slide better. There was water trapped in my cable too. Just glad it works again but your vid gave me the confidence I needed to pop it all open. Still a little new at this. Take care man.
Looks like the 2nd gen cartridge is sold out online, anyone know if the 3rd or 4th gen will work as a replacement?
As far as I know they're different.
You probably won't remember it, but did you found any cartridge compatible with the second gen dropper post?
@@jorgeparreira4216 I don't remember for sure but I think I ended up using a newer gen seatpost. I looked for the order info but can't seem to find it.
can anyone find hwere these are in-stock?!? can't fit shit anywhere!
Try www.amaincycling.com/
I found almost nothing online except a French bike dealer that doesn't sell to the US. Went into a local shop and they found me the right part in about 30 seconds. Maybe I was lucky?
@@miknoian these seem to be getting harder to find. Someone told me they contacted the flagship giant store in Las Vegas and also got good help
HOW do you get those dang plastic shims to stay in place when reinstalling the outer sleeve?
Make sure you're getting the aligment of the bottom tube right, its the most important part so that the shims dont get pushed out as you fiddle with the alignment.
@@BlindstuffMTB Yep, those shims weren't fun. I can see why other models use a different design.
I have another issue with this post that you might be able to help with. I believe the silver bushing @4:35 is harboring a bunch of crud that's leading to excessive stanchion wear. Any idea how to pull that bushing off?
Can you measure the plastic shims? Im about to 3d print them. Unfortunetely i have none in my dropper as i bought it second hand. Thanks in advance
Anyone been able to source a replacement cartridge recently?
Amain has them in stock. This is the link to a second gen cartridge, but the 3rd gen is also on the site.
www.amaincycling.com/giant-contact-switch-seatpost-cartridge-2nd-generation-201415-400mm-150000025/p364202?v=333090
If not, call your local giant store, they'll be able to order it for you.
Checked here earlier but comes back as 'out of stock' at checkout for both sizes. :(
Stephen Kay that's odd. They appear in stock for me.
OK, my bad........ the check availability button shows no stock, but check out successful. ;)
Awesome, glad it worked out for you.