The Long Awaited Banner Saga Costume Review!
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- You asked for it! Well, some of you asked for it. And here it is! A very brief look at some of the clothing, weapons, and material culture of the Banner Saga series of games. The games are heavily inspired by the Old Norse, and other cultures present in Early Medieval Europe, like the Irish, Welsh, and Picts. Later on we also see some fun High Medieval stuff, too!
So join me as we have a little look at how "viking" the clothes of The Banner Saga really are!
Also there are centaurs. And who doesn't love a centaur?
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I was having a really tough time at work, and this really helped lift my mood. Thank you. I’m so glad to see this series getting covered too!
Hey, glad to have helped salvage a crappy day, mate :)
"If you haven't enjoyed it, keep it to yourself." Made me ugly laugh, thank you for that.
12:35 "I could make a video about it" - yes please.
Seconded!
Any chance of a tour of Edwardian Jimmy's wardrobe?
This video is a great advert for the game series. What a very enjoyable video.
I think it's nice that you highlight games with medieval/ viking related content. It deserves to be better known.
Please make the video on medieval Welsh terminology. There's not enough of this kind of thing because of English 'wash out' 😢
I second this!
This was fun, and I would enjoy hearing more about Welsh Cantrefs. The tortoise brooches did make me giggle though.
There's "we're making a fantasy so we're just going to grab a mishmash of what-have-you, who cares about the historical sources" and there's "we're making a fantasy, and we have a rich tapestry of actual historical designs & concepts to work with so let's make the best use we can of all that." Clearly, these folks chose the latter, and bless them for it.
I‘m not into gaming and have never heard of the Banner Saga, but you made the whole review eminently watchable nonetheless. Wonderfully nuanced, and you know we’re all suckers for a good bit of nuance.
To the cantref comment, teach me more Welsh and Welsh history. Please please please force me to learn things. I have coffee.
Me too!
I spend way too much time playing video games, but I'd never heard of these. I really love the 80's fantasy cartoon vibe of the art direction- definite shades of the messy Disney Black Cauldron adaptation and the 80's D&D cartoon, amongst others. It really tugs on my childhood nostalgia strings. The fact that they've mixed in real historical influences as well is actually really impressive.
Oh there’s a super Don Bluth vibe to it, definitely
I may be ace but I am a farm kid and can tell you - that is NOT always an indoor activity. I know that all too well. (And no - I'm not talking about the critters). Although I probably should refocus - sinus meds are making tangents waaaaaaaaaay too easy today.
This makes me want to play the game. But, alas, I'm a crochet addicted person and Christmas is 3 months away!
I think I heard this in a video about the game Outward: If you are looking for realism in a fantasy game, you are obviously not looking at how realistic dragons or centaurs are. You are looking at if it feels right and if what you are doing makes sense. Banner Saga does an incredible job here. The cosyness of the buildings, the costumes, but also the frustration and hardship along the course of the game pulls you right in. Liked it very much!
The Banner Saga!! Such a great and underrated trilogy
Of course I enjoyed it! I don't think you've ever put out one I didn't enjoy. :D
I really like the demonstration that not everything has to be accurate to history when inspired by history 💖
I loved this, it was great (I'm a gamer)! And I'd totally watch a video about the history and progress of words (re: Teulu, Cantref)
This was fun! I also really enjoy fantasy games with historically-inspired settings and designs. It's cool to recognize small design choices that are inspired by actual artifacts because the creators have Done Their Research.
But, it's also good to appreciate and recognize where the creators have taken some artistic liberties or made something deliberately anachronistic to make a specific statement about a character or their culture.
I haven't played the Banner Saga, but I didn't feel like I needed to understand the game to enjoy this video. I would definitely watch stuff with a similar premise if the opportunity and inspiration presents itself. ^_^
Love a good Dublin cap.
Loved this episode. And I just wanna say thank you for the 'heimdall loves rainbows' shirt. I wear it on viking larps in the build up phase and it's a good detector for friendly people.
Oooo layered tunics!!
Quite like this laid-back video, even though I've never heard of this game, don't game, and thus will never play this game. The graphics are definitely pretty.
I can basically second this comment.
Loved the tacked on "and chocobos" 😂 Also loved the rest of the video too
I'd highly recommend the Bloodsworn Saga books by John Gwynne. It's a fantasy story set in a post pseudo-Ragnarok type land and Gwynne's background as a Viking reenactor really comes to the fore. The clothing, weapons and references to actual Old Norse culture are pretty spot on (first time I ever saw the word winnegas tbh). Plus, no one writes battle scenes like Gwynne.
I've put it on hold at my local library. Six week's wait, so it must be good! 😅
Always exciting to see a new video appear! I very much enjoy the relaxing sit and chats, and even though I havent played any of the games I always love your analysis of game art/costuming. Looking forward to the next one! (Ps. please can we have more Arthurian videos? I sit in hope for the Merlin video!)
Hmmm, how about not only "Merlin", but perhaps what constitutes 'magic' in those times ?!
Oh this is such a nice topic! I’ve not played the games (I’m terrible at the genre unfortunately) but I do love their style so much, so nice to see a good dive into their inspirations.
To add another game suggestion, Pentiment came out last year is set in 16th century Germany and is fantastically well researched and I’d love to hear your take on some of the costumes. Also there is a (optional) sequence in the game where you get to use a drop spindle…how’s THAT gamified material culture. 😊
Me, an intellectual who enjoy a fresh breeze on my cheeks: activity? indoors? that one?? is he.. talking about laundry?
It's funny that you've been asked to review it for years, and I only started playing the series this summer. I played through the first, and once I finished it, immediately started playing again to get a different storyline. I'm now halfway through the second and it does not disappoint.
This kind of video is really fun! I find comparisons with existing media a really good way to learn about and practice my understanding of historical fashion. I've been slowly watching Vinland Saga with my best friend and having fun ribbing every time I see something they shouldn't have or complimenting every time I can tell they did their research. (I was losing my mind about Snake's sword about four episodes before they revealed where he came from)
I bought The Banner Saga last year because the art was gorgeous but haven't played it yet and you've absolutely sold me on playing through all the games this winter! I really enjoyed the video and would positively die of happiness if you did one on historical land organization 😍
Like deployed, video played once muted while I was fixing breakfast, engagement comment typed out, am ready to watch this with a comfy cup of tea. Thank you !
🫡 Thank you for your service!
@@TheWelshViking least I can do !
That was a fun video
I've almost finished my first week of med school and your videos are a brilliant way to just tune out for a minute. Even though I don't play many video games, your videos are always fascinating! I've not missed a single one, and I bet that these will get me through med school (if my flatmates will put up with me info dumping about your videos!)
The Banner Saga definitely highlights different cultures' art in costumes and architecture and the banners in the series' title, and it really makes you want to protect these people and their imperiled world from the dangers that threaten to exterminate them and their cultures and histories. The beauty in these games work to help inspire the feelings the creators are trying to inspire in players, and this really worked on me at least!
Contrast a lot of Viking media that make everything dark and gross to emphasize how gritty, serious, and grimdark their settings are. Because the past was totally like that, and it definitely makes it historically authentic. Or because making things gross is probably why Game of Thrones was popular, right?
I'll have to check out the Banner Saga, looks like it might be right up my alley.
I bought this series on sale and never got around to actually playing it. I'll have to give them a try next lol
Banner saga is such a good series. The writing is fantastic
Having played the games I went into this thinking what is there really to critique? Well, I came to find you agreed 😅👍
I love the Banner Saga art style. It's simultaneously kept simple and yet plays around with fantastical designs. It makes it more interesting as a fantasy setting imo, because 100% historical accuracy is, as you say, not needed in a history-inspired fantasy game. And it's also a smart way to make the characters stand out a bit more and give them some unique traits and designs to look at. It's just yummie. Instead of slapping leather and furs on everything and everyone, it seems like they have the baseline of simple cloth clothing and then get playful with it.
Always glad to see a new video! I'm not at all familiar with these games, but now I'm rather tempted to go change that. Thanks!
i think, to an extent, you have to give allowances for artistic license and sometimes people kind of forget that. one of the things that crops up in modern artistic depictions constantly are them dummy 18th century turndown boots, because thats just shorthand for ye olde times, and its annoying but i get it, broadly. smearing everything in dirt and shite as shorthand for medieval so the lower common denominator understands is dumb and unnecessary but stuff like banner sagas cool fantasy elements are a neat aesthetic, i think its fair to give them a pass on that given that its literally a fantasy setting
(i dont think i ever actually got around to playing the third one lmao, i should really go back and finish the trilogy)
Definitely enjoyed, would be keen on more in a similar vein!
Must give this a go, looks beautiful. On a gaming note, have you played Hellblade: Senua’s Sacrifice? A Celtic warrior travels to Hel to save her lover from, well, Hel. It’s really rather good and might be up your avenue.
I frickin love this channel, I’m glad I found it again. I was looking at mead recipes and stumbled on the Sahti video from two years ago. Came over to the channel, saw he’s still uploading and subscribed. Not gonna lose this guy to the algorithm again.
I loved this video! And I learnt about a beautiful game that _I absolutely must play_
Awesome as always Jimmy, and that video idea is intriguing (please make it)
yes, enjoyed indeed.
Lovely video! would love to hear about cantref (cantrefs?)
SO good to "see" you, Jimmy. LOVE your takes on things.
I love Banner Saga! Thank you for this insightful review. :-)
Hello love the content yet another great video! If you we to do another game “reaction” I would suggest bad north as on the surface it is simple but if look past that there is lots of Norse influence and Anglo-Saxon
Fortuitous timing to see this just came out; I was looking at making a Rook cosplay for halloween and ended up back at your 'how to wear a cloak' video to get a baseline in trying to figure out what to do with that double-pinned cloak he wears. Do you have any thoughts/ideas on how quite that sort of cloak would work? My best guesses are either it's got a pair of 'arms' perpendicular to the main cut that jut out where the hood meets the main body of the cloak, and these fold over each other and fasten at the base of the other; or, it's more a poncho-type cloak where the front normally would hang mid-chest but he has the front gathered and pinned up higher.
Would you have any better ideas how one might put together a cloak that works like his with that double-pin which leaves a decent gap between the vertical drape of the edges?
Looks like a fun game.
A nice bit of history mixed with a good game recommendation? Don't mind if I do.
i mean i thonk i have enjoyed all of your videos Jimmy so thsts on brand.
Great post as always. Love for you to dip your toes into Valheim game and give a critique.
I don’t play any computer games at all but I still found this interesting!
A comment for the algoritm.
Like and response for engagement!
Huzzah huzzah, lift your glass to the algorithm. May Jimmy be showered in favor from the Powers That Be Recommending!
I enjoyed this very much!! Thanks for showing us some of the game as I’m not familiar but it looks like fun❣️ stay well Jimmy💕
Hi Jimmy, great video. I want to check this game out now. Also I love hearing you speak Welsh.
I always saw the Dredge as Fomorian stand-in...
Words words words.
Sorry all I can do today is sh*tpost and be counted. I think you're wonderful, I love all your videos, I just have nothing interesting to say today. Please don't take my moodiness personally, dear sweet boy.
Some days we feast at the table of vibrant engagement and sparkling conversation, other days we feed the algorithm with small spoons and best wishes for our gracious host. Such is life, and so it goes.
Very rarely do I have anything interesting to say. It’s why my videos are so sparse!
@@TheWelshViking Not even close! Better day today -- I'll try to get my rhythm in order for the next drop.💜
@@sonipittsYou seem to be eating for the two of us! Well said.
I did enjoy this video 😊
I enjoyed this.
What's your favorite Final Fantasy game? I'm going to guess tactics or FF9.
VII! Early Tetsuya Nomura FF is absolutely my fave
YOU FUCKING ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCK!! Reasons why I love ya, bruh - soon in messages lol AND YES!! Might you ever consider a video on viking age tablet weaving ("card weaving"/brickbandvävning") or even Medieval age? It's a superbly interesting subject, and so many historic "boat-grave" finds have so much of it - it's a gi-hugic chunhk of what you could feature here, as a Norse/Old Norse/Proto Norse archeological topic! Yes? No? lol Anywhoooozle, you freakin' RAWK!! LOL
I have never been a gamer, but I gifted my ex with this game, because he was and it looked like something cool. Since he is (was?) a reenactor, glad to have be proven right. He started playing the game after he left me (probably he was sure that it wouldn't have been nice since, again, I know nothing about games), but I heard that he liked it.
Like deployed 👍
Always a delight to see you! I even watch the gamer stuff, and I don't give two hoots about gaming. You just review costumes so well! (And there you go--not horned helms, just helms with a hole for your horns!)
That dagger brooch looks cool, but something that wide looks like it would shred a cloak in a few uses unless you made eyelets/buttonholes to pass it through. Did he get that scar across his neck trying to put it on? I wonder if it is a flamboyant relation of the Tara brooch.
Love the episode. Someone complaining about a lack of historical accuracy in a game that is fantasy out of the gate says more about them than it does about the game. Thanks for reviewing it for what it is.
Any time you say 'Or I can make a video on it...?' the answer is yes!
Agreed
Yep
Since I know SQUAT about Wales, perhaps a fast "Cliff notes" version then a longer deeper dive for folks that are "further ahead!" ?
(Blame the public schools in USA. They taught squat about other countries when I went to school. I am 60. I HOPE that has changed! Due to the internet, the world is smaller !)
Mate, i’d listen to a vid of you breaking down old welsh words till i’m old and grey like merlin. Would also love anything about welsh/old english folks lore, maybe something about what folks get wrong all the time. Always stoked for the uploads
Well *I'd* like a video about 'cantref', and the wider topic of how land was divided and administered. And how that's reflected in language. I'd like that very much!
Me too!
When you said you were going to do a Banner Kit Review, I thought you were going to review some banners that people brought with them to reenactments and what they should look out for, ect. I was really looking forward to that.
This was fine, too. I don't play videogames, really, but I kinda like looking at them, hearing about them. They are an interesting part of our culture and always a fun place to see new art (storytelling and graphics). I could definitely see come nice graphics in this game!
I mean, I could do that, but I’m not a vexilologist and we have virtually no material evidence to go on!
I have started tablet weaving because of this channel. Now, everytime I watch a video, I have to put in a few rows on my Oseberg band!
Would there be enough content for a video on viking/norse tablet weaving?
As someone who is working on a Norse caftan/coat thing that’s decorated with Oseberg ribbons I wove myself, I salute you, fellow tablet weaver! It’s so much fun, isn’t it? I still think that whoever invented it was a genius, it’s like magic, you just twist a few tablets and then a ribbon is formed!
Oh there would be so much to talk about tablet weaving😍 we should demand such a video😋
I suspect the dagger brooch might be based somewhat loosely from Irish brooches, because some of those were pretty long and pointy to the point where I wouldn't be hugely surprised if they were used for stabbing from time to time
If I wore a brooch like that, I’d want the pointy part to be able to be used as a small knife.
was about to say this! my da has one of those massive irish stabby brooches that he uses to keep his massive brat (that my mother was awarded her laurels [peerage for artists/craftspeople/scholars in the sca] in fiberarts for the dying/spinning/weaving of!) on! he keeps a wine cork on the end so no one behind him accidentally gets an eye put out
So the giants are cross dressing blacksmiths? It is usually hammered in that one broach is a man and 2 broaches is a woman when found in a grave. (Until they look at the pelvis and get confused)
"The Mabinogi...with Chocobos..."
Today, my friend, you have won the internet! ;)
I have a question. How did viking women keep their boobs up? Did they wear thing similar to bras or did they bind? Serious question. I can't figure out what is historically accurate or even historically plausible. Hars to do reenactment without the proper undergarb.
Chainmail bikinis. Bare midriff, bare legs, chainmail bikini top, dark eyeshadow, blonde hair, modern depilation. You'll be 100/100 for accuracy.
Source: I live in Hollywood. You're welcome. 😁
@@kenbrown2540 Doesn't sound remotely comfortable 😂
Binding, I’d imagine, when necessary. We have evidence that apron dresses were often fitted well enough to provide light bust support as well.
Look into the Lengberg Castle bra, it's quite possible that's bras existed in various forms long before the modern (re)invention of them. There are also ways to make something like the modern bandue "bra" as well.
@@TheWelshViking Thanks for the answer. I'll see if I can figure out that combination.
Bearded female blacksmiths. So, Discworld dwarves, then. :p
YES!!
I like that they added a bunch of stuff that's not historical, but also made it so obvious that they've done the research
Now I want a Asterix and Obelix review even more :D (yes I know this comics is meant to be silly and not historicaly accurate, that's what it make it fun ;) )
Oh, msrs Uderzo and Goscinny will be treated extremely gently here
@@TheWelshViking By Toutatis!
I don’t play video games or even know what this game is, but I am watching and commented for Jimmy and FOR THE ALGORITHM!! Though I do love learning more about historic dress. Jimmy is one of my go-to “chaotic good” RUclipsrs.
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The Dredge look like Wagnerian Cybermen! 😂
The headgear reminds me of some Mayan images.
I haven't played these specific games, but I'm digging the buff lady in the white apron dress. Such a good design on several levels.
I'm still waiting for the chocobo though--
11:17 I wonder if that particular centaur character's design was taking specific inspiration from and/or paying homage to Keira Knightley's character from the King Arthur movie back from the mid-2000s (2004?), rather than generic "Celtic" culture stereotypes.
I could believe it
Always a delight to watch your content! But I must express my total lack of intesest in any other gme but Scabble. Am I betraying my age?
jimmy talking about the banner saga, AND material culture?! holidays came early for me! it's one of my favorite game series, and yeah i can relate to the 'heart being in bits' feeling by the end hahah
i also recommend the companion novel, "The Gift of Hadrborg" i believe it's called; i really enjoyed it!
love this video! 💖 😄 and heck yeah i'd love to see a video on cantrefs!!
Something about the vibe, but i felt like Jimmy needed a pipe to complete the look here!
Just before I went to bed!
When first saw Banner in the thumbnail I pictured a 3m by 2m flag with a hand embroidered raven on it.
I'm not a big gamer but might have a look at Banner.
As always diolch yn fawr iawn😁
The dagger broch is genius
Hey jimmy it was soo cool to bump into you last night in the shambles! i hope you enjoyed your lasagne :)
I know virtually nothing about video game culture and have only heard of the big names (Fortnite, Call of Duty etc.) so it's really cool to know that these kind of artsy video games are being made.
Also, yeah, I know it's RUclips culture to roast whatever you're reviewing, but it's quite refreshing to hear a more nuanced (and calm) discussion of something.
This was a interesting video! The Banner Saga games were great, had played the 1st one years ago and FINALLY got through 2 & 3 during the lockdown (that last march...damn!)...the music was also something else which really blew me away too!
This was such a fun one! I didn't know the Banner Saga. The artstyle of the characters has a Don Bluth vibe which I really like.
was fun, I like all your videos since you care!
I've never heard of the Banner Saga. I'm not a gamer. Would it be hard for a beginner to play? I'm not good at hand-eye coordination and fast paced action.
It's a great tactical game! Basically think of chess but the pieces can level up and gain different abilities. It doesn't take any hand eye coordination and it's not fast paced
It's turn-based, like Chess are turn-based, but without a timer. You can take all the time you need to think during combat, and the dialogues also don't have any time sensitivity. The only difficulty there would be learnig the basics, since the game's combat requires brainwork and strategic planning. It also takes a very little toll on your PC, it's almost as if you could play it comfortably on a potato.
I enjoyed the video 😁 But definitely, I would be interested in the Welsh words you mentioned... I knew teulu (my Welsh spelling is awful🤔) and the word for land division I did not know. Oh, teach great one!
Agree with that. Welsh has always been both a mystery and something I wanted to know about (and speak, perhaps). Les
Im curious what your thoughts on the Witcher's armor would be, specifically the faction Skellige, which is a mix of about 50 percent Old Norse, 25 percent Irish, and 25 percent Scottish
Thanks, Jimmy. The game does look very nice ❤
Edit: it is lovely to have a review that went well and that you enjoyed without Rage lol