@TRUMP 2024 I think season ten is still pretty good tbh. It's the last good season. I'm very excited to see how RTD works with the storyline mess that chibnall is leaving him with
So, Paula and Katrina have seen Clara go over the top, and beyond her breaking point... Time for the Doctor to, this season... what a ride. That said, episode 1 was fairly messy and all over the place, baiting and switching the audience almost cheaply.
There is a great interview on the Craig Fergusian show with Capaldi. They were both in a band, they discuss the time they were both tripping Acid independently and meet up. Basically it's not an interview, just 2 old friends catching up, and it's brilliant.
@@nathanwoolham4771 Ehh. Not entirely really. Some 'interviews' looked a tragic 'awkward pause' from start to finish. If some were only acting as if they wanted to be somewhere else, they did a fair old job of it.
lol... Capaldi playing the opening riff of "Oh, Pretty Woman" when he looks up and sees Missy. Or wait, maybe he was seeing Clara? No, it was Missy. As a long-time Whovian (since the mid 70s) it absolutely chilled my bones when that kid said his name, the first time I saw this episode. Even now, after many viewings, it still does. This is a great season. As always, I look forward to your reactions.
Not sure - I think ‘Pretty Woman’ was for Clara because as Missy enters he plays a wah-wah-ed version of ‘Mickey’ (the ‘Hey Missy’ tune). Question is - where did he get the wah-wah pedal? Answer - skillz!
This is basically the old question of,"If you could go back in time and kill Hitler as a child,would you do it?" And yes,Missy and Clara are fun together. For however long or short a time it might be.
the best part about it is that its a call back to classic who's genesis of the daleks with 4 asking pretty much that question with 12 seemingly having finally come to an answer to it
Thematic naming: Sarff being Welsh for snake but Davros back in at Genesis of the Daleks had a right hand man called Nyder (Neidr being Welsh for Adder or Snake).
When the Doctor begs for Clara's life. His utter helplessness. For the Doctor, that helplessness sometimes turns into loss. That loss begets grief, which transforms into rage. The most violent and terrifying thing in all the universe is the rage of the last timelord. Entire civilizations tremble before it...
So here at last we get the most comprehensive explanation of how The Master/Missy is somehow inexplicably always able to come back from the seemingly very dead - “Back. Not dead. Big surprise. Never mind”. Also I’m pretty sure that if you check the Doctors amplifier on the tank, it’s from Magpie Electricals. I’m also pretty sure that ‘good’ as pronounced by Missy/Michelle is ‘guid’!
“Today I’ll be talking to you out of the square window” probably won’t mean much to US viewers but will resonate with British viewers who watched ‘Playschool’, a kids TV programme where each day we went through a differently shaped shaped window in a cartoon house. (If you think that sounds nuts you should check out ‘In the Night Garden’ where I’m sure the scriptwriters are ‘on something’!).
Oh I remember when I saw this the first time. They did a very good job, and I immediately recognized the very old war from Classic Who, and I pieced it together who the kid was. And I totally geeked out when he said his name
Im glad you guys are in a better mood for doctor who. For me it was really sad seeing you guys not enjoying the show at the tail end of series 8 and i was getting worried that your hatred for clara in series 8 finale was killing your enjoyment of the show as a whole. I hope series 9 repairs the damage for you somewhat. I hope you understand that we werent hating you for having an opinion.
Great reaction, This is easily my favorite series of the show and one of my favorites in all of tv Also Peter CAPALDI was in a punk band in the 80’s called Exposure(also called The Bastard’s From Hell & Dreamboys) with Craig Ferguson( Late Late Show, The Hustler, Drew Carey Show) CAPALDI was Lead Guitar and Vocals and Ferguson was Drummer
I loved this episode when it was first on, especially getting the amazing Julian Bleach back as Davros (which was somehow kept a complete secret!). We also got literally EVERY type of Dalek from all through the history of the show! As you two also watch Star Trek, did you recognise the homage in this episode? The shuttle taking the Doctor to Davros not only looks very much like the inside of a Type 6 shuttle from TNG (Season 5 onwards) but they even use the warping stars outside the window too. Finally, I loved how they achieved Sarff’s slithering movement by having the actor on a hoverboard!😂👏
12:50 I mean I always wanted a very random and unexpected death for a companion. We always get those very cinematic finale things, where whole episode resolves about it. What if someone just actually got shot by a Dalek or slipped when they were running away.
Just watch an interview or 2 with Michelle Gomez and you'll see Missy and Michelle are 2 names for the same personality, she's incredible and mind blowing
Missy is one of the best characters of all time in Who. For me one of the best timelords/ladies. I wish she could have played the Doctor :(, with the same character just not as a baddie obviously but with the same wit and style. For me it goes, Smith - Capaldi - Missy - Tennant - Christopher :)
It's funny, because she's pretty wacky in real life as well. Years ago, I saw her at her first Doctor Who convention here in Atlanta (the same weekend with Katy Manning, who is probably JUST AS BATTY) and she was sooo hilarious and quirky! Her Q&A's were truly some of my fave I've ever been to at a DW con.
Wow. Series Nine. It seems like only yesterday that Paula was a total newbie and now she's catching references to Davros right off the bat. Sniff. I'm so proud!
Comedian and Late Night Talk Show Host Craig Ferguson was in the Punk Band Dreamboys along with Peter Capaldi, Peter was the Lead Singer and Guitarist while Craig played the Drums
Young Davros was such a surprise when he first showed up in the episode completely different from the man he would become their is a set of audio stories which I admit I haven't heard, but anyway, the audio stories are called I Davros and they tell the story Davros' childhood to a young man in his 30s and it tells of how he ended up in his chair. As I said I haven't heard it, I have only heard snippets which have been animated it's quite a nice story from what little I did hear, I would recommend it but if you two are like me and simply cannot sit and concentrate just listening to audio while trying to imagine what is going on then the audio stories I Davros and many others by Big Finish probably aren't for you two. Anyway looking forward to the next reaction!
Series 9 is so good (although that's not to say I don't have a few gripes with parts of it). Probably the overall best series of Capaldi's run and certainly has my favourite episode of his. And so many two-parters as well.
RUSSEL T DAVIES IS BACK! i dont know if u guys read the news but for the 60 year special and for the next season RUSSEL T DAVIES IS BACK ! i am sooo hyped xD davies was the best doctor who time xD i stopped watching doctor who after season 11 and now i am SOOO hyped for davies xD ps: also i love season 9 xD one of my favorites
To me, the only downside is that I wanted Joe Michael Straczynski to run it and he even applied for it. He created, wrote, and ran Babylon 5! Maybe RTD can bring on JMS to write and episode or two.
@@davidcave5426 wow, JMS? Didn't know that. Currently he's quoting B5 reboot. I have my differences with Russel, but the guy can write. It's just knowing when to dial him back that may sometimes come up.
I see all the comments mentioning how Capaldi was in a band with Craig Fergueson. They were called the Dreamboys. Here's a video someone made with a bunch of pictures of Capaldi and the band during their heyday around 1980 (when Capaldi was 22) with one of their songs "Outer Limits" (which Capaldi sings on in addition to playing lead guitar): ruclips.net/video/2AfGi-_fQ5o/видео.html
Peter Capaldi's 1980's punk rock band, "the dreamboys" has live performances on youtube. here is their song, "Shall we dance" ruclips.net/video/Ab6V6ckS5NU/видео.html Craig Ferguson, former host of the late late show on CBS, was the drummer.
I love Missy. IMO one of the few things they got right consistently during the Moffat/Capaldi era. Michelle Gomez is just a fantastic actor. She was a highlight of Sabrina too.
have you guys covered the Tom Baker years (7 years up to 1981)? (The second best Doctor in my opinion - after the grouchy morally lacking William Hartnell's Doctor) ps .. did you know .. writer of Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy (Douglas Adams) wrote 2 of the stories in that period. At least, Wikipedia says so. (i believe anything Wikipedia says if it doesn't involve politics or economics)
While they have not covered all of the Tom Baker years, they have reacted to a bunch that were voted on if you scroll back far enough through their reactions.
I’d love to see y’all really dive into Classic Who, all the way from the start and not just piecemeal. Maybe once you’re completely caught up with New? There’s another reaction channel called SesskaSays who did that and has really gotten into it; I think your reactions to all of Classic would also be very enjoyable. Not every Classic story is good, but then that’s true of any series.
Davros knows...Davros remembers............ His entry scene in this is...AMAZING. An axe battle...heh. Pure Capaldi. "If you want to go after the Doctor...go after his friends." Flashback to A Good Man Goes to War, "Then tell me if it is good idea to try and get to me through the people I LOVE!"
I think the biggest problem with this episode was the depiction of UNIT as unable to function without calling in a schoolteacher who happens to be friends with the Doctor. What was REALLY going on was that Clara needed someone to look smart against.
@@booradley8895 Opinions are opinions but I'd like to point out that his Companions from the series revival up to and including this episode were/are: Bad Wolf Walked the Earth Doctor Donna A found family thanks in small part to them also being the parents of _the_ River Song His Apprentice Bonus Round for the part time companions: The immortal philanderer World saving badass His _wife_ who's been crucial in many of his adventures while also having her own solo career as a Doctor-esque adventurer. It's not just Clara, they're all the center of the universe. It's just how New Who has chosen to write the Companion role.
@@KHloreExpert Well said. Each companion is 'The Most Important' during their tenure through much of New Who. It's a bit exhausting as a fan of the Classic Series, but I got used to it. 🤷♀
I love the contrast between the two showrunners and their approaches to opening episodes. Russell always kicked things off with a relatively small scale comedic romp with a heavy dosage of camp. By contrast, Steven is like "eh, fuck it. Let's start things off with a bang and throw our audience into the deep end." I love the opening, and I love the ending, but the stuff in between mostly feels like filler, and in hindsight makes the majority of this episode feel rather insubstantial. There's stuff I like in the middle, namely most of Missy's scenes, as we get to explore her and the Doctor's relationship in a bit more detail beyond them just being enemies, and Michelle Gomez sells the hell out of the character and her role as the unreliable ally who might either help you or disintegrate you for laughs. That said, a lot of the scenes during this part lack any kind of momentum, throwing various characters and locations at the audience in an attempt to hide how little story there is in this episode. On top of that, there's quite a few moments of comedy that fail to land during this episode (Missy tickling the Dalek's...ahem, balls is a quite misjudged moment), UNIT are once again made to feel utterly useless, Clara doesn't end up getting very much to do, the Doctor's guitar concert is loads of fun, but the gags and puns do grate after a while, and the whole "The Doctor is going to die" thing feels like a plot point that's been done to death at this point in the Moffat era. Still, "The Magician's Apprentice" has the benefit of starting well and ending well. The cold open is one of my favourites in the entire series, it's dark and atmospheric, the Hand Mines are a brilliantly creepy visual and concept, and the reveal of the child's identity is a moment that is played perfectly, with Capaldi's performance and the direction of Hettie McDonald (returning from "Blink") selling the moment perfectly. And then there's everything that happens once the story *actually* begins...33 minutes in. The revelation of Skaro is a perfect scene, with both Capaldi and Gomez acing the characters' sense of pure fear (seriously though, how often do we see the Master genuinely scared?), and Murray Gold reusing his Dalek theme from the series 4 finale was the perfect touch. Also returning from series 4 is Julian Bleach as Davros, toning down the screeching megalomania to deliver a much more unsettling and understated performance. The buildup to Clara's "death" is masterfully done, with Jenna Coleman's silent performance, the sinister background music, and Davros' insanely chilling speech doing a masterful job at elevating the tension. And Capaldi's depiction of the Doctor's grief immediately afterwards is phenomenal, you truly get the sense that the guy has become overcome with grief and rage, and it makes the cliffhanger where it looks like he might actually shoot the young Davros in the face all the more intense. After most of the episode was spent wasting time of superfluous nonsense, the final 15 minutes bring things home, and leave you on tenterhooks, just waiting to see how we're going to get out of this mess...and it's only episode 1! Also, surprised neither of you connected the title to The Sorcerer's Apprentice. You know, the story about a young magician who creates an army of inhuman servants that fuck things up for everyone, and how the young man is unable to control his creations?
You've admirably made all the points I was going to make. :) This episode is essentially a 20 minute prelude to next week's episode; padded out with storylines which are not only introduced and then summarily dropped,but which make no sense whatsoever. The last twenty minutes are great,though. The scene where Davros plays back the key moments from his,and the Doctors, past...gives me shivers!
This was a great episode. On another note, l am looking forward to watching Michelle Gomez as Madame Rouge in the new season (3rd Season) of Doom Patrol released today on HBOMAX. Especially great since season 3 looks like there will be no Timothy Dalton, who was unavailable for filming due to covid.
YOu see how great this is ?? The Doctor confronted Davros many times, but the 12th Doctor, is the first Doctor from Davros point of view. I mean it is the first time he saw The Doctor. From the Doctor'as point of view, he met Davros in classic WHO first.
Here's a head canon for you. We never saw the driver that hit and killed Danny Pink. Missy introduced Clara to the Doctor for a reason (spoiler). MISSY killed Danny!...
Way off topic here, Katrina, what is the tattoo on your wrist, looks like a Ghibli soot sprite? Anyway, in the 80's Peter played guitar in a punk band called The Dreamboys. Story is that Peter was working on a solo album during lockdown - I hope so
awww why why why did you cut out the scene where they re use the dialogue from 'genesis of the daleks' ? i know you can only use so much footage, but c'mon gals that was cruel haha
She's an incredible villain and as discussed it's Michelle Gomez's performance that makes it all the more better/complicated. I felt the same about John Simm's version of the Master.
@@KatAlysha Gloating over the fact the man had just had a baby and had a family felt just too cruel and unnecessary. That was more being evil rather than bad
@@booradley8895 Missy is an example of what is wrong with Time Lords - it's what made the Sixth Doctor so dismissive of them - they've had uncounted millennia of being the unregulated center of the universe, and it has made them corrupt and uncaring. Missy didn't HATE the guy she killed, he just absolutely didn't matter to her with his stupid little lifespan. He was just useful to her by dying. And it was fun. Basically, she stood on a bug.
RIP Clara and Missy, they had a good run. They will be missed.
And so begins the series that made me utterly ENAMORED with capaldi. Season 8 made me like him. Season 9 made him my doctor.
@TRUMP 2024 I think season ten is still pretty good tbh. It's the last good season. I'm very excited to see how RTD works with the storyline mess that chibnall is leaving him with
So, Paula and Katrina have seen Clara go over the top, and beyond her breaking point...
Time for the Doctor to, this season... what a ride.
That said, episode 1 was fairly messy and all over the place, baiting and switching the audience almost cheaply.
There is a great interview on the Craig Fergusian show with Capaldi. They were both in a band, they discuss the time they were both tripping Acid independently and meet up. Basically it's not an interview, just 2 old friends catching up, and it's brilliant.
And then there's that part of the conversation about "horny toenails".
Honestly that’s all Craig Fergusian’s show was, a catch up with friends
@@nathanwoolham4771 Ehh. Not entirely really. Some 'interviews' looked a tragic 'awkward pause' from start to finish. If some were only acting as if they wanted to be somewhere else, they did a fair old job of it.
lol... Capaldi playing the opening riff of "Oh, Pretty Woman" when he looks up and sees Missy. Or wait, maybe he was seeing Clara? No, it was Missy.
As a long-time Whovian (since the mid 70s) it absolutely chilled my bones when that kid said his name, the first time I saw this episode. Even now, after many viewings, it still does.
This is a great season. As always, I look forward to your reactions.
Not sure - I think ‘Pretty Woman’ was for Clara because as Missy enters he plays a wah-wah-ed version of ‘Mickey’ (the ‘Hey Missy’ tune). Question is - where did he get the wah-wah pedal? Answer - skillz!
No, in the script it was directed towards Clara.
Katrina's face when Paula described how Missy was going to act exactly lol
This is basically the old question of,"If you could go back in time and kill Hitler as a child,would you do it?"
And yes,Missy and Clara are fun together. For however long or short a time it might be.
the best part about it is that its a call back to classic who's genesis of the daleks with 4 asking pretty much that question with 12 seemingly having finally come to an answer to it
And it's a rare case of the right answer--you have *time travel* and the best you can think of to stop him is killing him?
Thematic naming: Sarff being Welsh for snake but Davros back in at Genesis of the Daleks had a right hand man called Nyder (Neidr being Welsh for Adder or Snake).
That's good info!!
Wow! That's clever.
Educational and entertaining. Hmm.
When the Doctor begs for Clara's life. His utter helplessness. For the Doctor, that helplessness sometimes turns into loss. That loss begets grief, which transforms into rage. The most violent and terrifying thing in all the universe is the rage of the last timelord. Entire civilizations tremble before it...
So here at last we get the most comprehensive explanation of how The Master/Missy is somehow inexplicably always able to come back from the seemingly very dead - “Back. Not dead. Big surprise. Never mind”. Also I’m pretty sure that if you check the Doctors amplifier on the tank, it’s from Magpie Electricals. I’m also pretty sure that ‘good’ as pronounced by Missy/Michelle is ‘guid’!
Yes, Michelle Gomez uses the Scots for "good", which is indeed spelt and pronounced "guid".
“Today I’ll be talking to you out of the square window” probably won’t mean much to US viewers but will resonate with British viewers who watched ‘Playschool’, a kids TV programme where each day we went through a differently shaped shaped window in a cartoon house. (If you think that sounds nuts you should check out ‘In the Night Garden’ where I’m sure the scriptwriters are ‘on something’!).
@@ianpark1805 never picked up on that reference before and I adored playdays as a kid 😅
My favorite Dr and series 9, the best season EVER !
Totally agree!!!
It's right up there with series 4 and 5...
Top tier.
i love the absolute power move from Missy when she resumed the flight of the plane and paused it to create some shade 😂
Oh I remember when I saw this the first time. They did a very good job, and I immediately recognized the very old war from Classic Who, and I pieced it together who the kid was. And I totally geeked out when he said his name
Im glad you guys are in a better mood for doctor who. For me it was really sad seeing you guys not enjoying the show at the tail end of series 8 and i was getting worried that your hatred for clara in series 8 finale was killing your enjoyment of the show as a whole. I hope series 9 repairs the damage for you somewhat. I hope you understand that we werent hating you for having an opinion.
Great reaction, This is easily my favorite series of the show and one of my favorites in all of tv
Also Peter CAPALDI was in a punk band in the 80’s called Exposure(also called The Bastard’s From Hell & Dreamboys) with Craig Ferguson( Late Late Show, The Hustler, Drew Carey Show) CAPALDI was Lead Guitar and Vocals and Ferguson was Drummer
I loved this episode when it was first on, especially getting the amazing Julian Bleach back as Davros (which was somehow kept a complete secret!). We also got literally EVERY type of Dalek from all through the history of the show! As you two also watch Star Trek, did you recognise the homage in this episode? The shuttle taking the Doctor to Davros not only looks very much like the inside of a Type 6 shuttle from TNG (Season 5 onwards) but they even use the warping stars outside the window too. Finally, I loved how they achieved Sarff’s slithering movement by having the actor on a hoverboard!😂👏
I love Missy, she is so good at being eeeeeeevil
12:50 I mean I always wanted a very random and unexpected death for a companion. We always get those very cinematic finale things, where whole episode resolves about it. What if someone just actually got shot by a Dalek or slipped when they were running away.
Just watch an interview or 2 with Michelle Gomez and you'll see Missy and Michelle are 2 names for the same personality, she's incredible and mind blowing
For many 9 is where Capaldi became the Doctor. And a large part of it is the chemistry between Capaldi and Gomez that was established in 8/11
I’ve similarly been introducing someone to doctor who and for the first time (and probably only time) we’ve exactly synced up with you two!
10:15 Paula.exe has stopped working.
So much to LOVE here a reaction that did NOT disappoint
my favorite series! im so glad yall are finally here, im just sad that yall wont do 2 episodes a day because its known as the series of 2 parters
Once upon a time in Scotland Peter Capaldi and Craig Ferguson of The Late Late Show played in the same punk band.
Missy is one of the best characters of all time in Who. For me one of the best timelords/ladies. I wish she could have played the Doctor :(, with the same character just not as a baddie obviously but with the same wit and style. For me it goes, Smith - Capaldi - Missy - Tennant - Christopher :)
Michelle Gomez is just spellbinding. 😍
S9 is genuinely one of my favourite seasons, a couple of duds but overall pretty great!
Oh, best season of the capital's era and Russell T Davies is back! Great weekend for who
The woman who plays Missy was fantastic in Green Wing - equally unhinged in a different way
It's funny, because she's pretty wacky in real life as well. Years ago, I saw her at her first Doctor Who convention here in Atlanta (the same weekend with Katy Manning, who is probably JUST AS BATTY) and she was sooo hilarious and quirky! Her Q&A's were truly some of my fave I've ever been to at a DW con.
best series of doctor who. best opening episodes of doctor who.
Wow. Series Nine. It seems like only yesterday that Paula was a total newbie and now she's catching references to Davros right off the bat. Sniff. I'm so proud!
This is my favorite season!!! So much great Capaldi stuff... it's not perfect but it was the season where Capaldi became my doctor.
Katrina cackling madly while Paula has a breakdown. Welcome to series 9.
A friggen bonkers series
The guitar….in his twenties Capaldi was in a band with Craig Ferguson
My favorite Series starts....DUDE Doctor for the win!!!
Comedian and Late Night Talk Show Host Craig Ferguson was in the Punk Band Dreamboys along with Peter Capaldi, Peter was the Lead Singer and Guitarist while Craig played the Drums
Young Davros was such a surprise when he first showed up in the episode completely different from the man he would become their is a set of audio stories which I admit I haven't heard, but anyway, the audio stories are called I Davros and they tell the story Davros' childhood to a young man in his 30s and it tells of how he ended up in his chair. As I said I haven't heard it, I have only heard snippets which have been animated it's quite a nice story from what little I did hear, I would recommend it but if you two are like me and simply cannot sit and concentrate just listening to audio while trying to imagine what is going on then the audio stories I Davros and many others by Big Finish probably aren't for you two. Anyway looking forward to the next reaction!
Katrina just enjoying Paula reaction with this one the whole time. 😂❤
🎸Peter was in a band with 🥁Craig Ferguson when they were both younger...
Series 9 is so good.
Series 9 is so good (although that's not to say I don't have a few gripes with parts of it). Probably the overall best series of Capaldi's run and certainly has my favourite episode of his. And so many two-parters as well.
12s best season IMO love seeing how he moves on after Clara and Missy meet their end. RIP really true besties
Peter Capaldi was in a punk band with Craig Ferguson in his youth.
Oh Series 9, how much I love it. 🙂
if you want to see michelle gomez (missy) at full throttle watch her in green wing its mostly improve and she is bonkers in that
I think series 9 is pretty much my favourite series!!!!! Have fun!
And So begins The BEST Doctor Who Season of ALL TIME!
RUSSEL T DAVIES IS BACK! i dont know if u guys read the news but for the 60 year special and for the next season RUSSEL T DAVIES IS BACK ! i am sooo hyped xD davies was the best doctor who time xD i stopped watching doctor who after season 11 and now i am SOOO hyped for davies xD
ps: also i love season 9 xD one of my favorites
To me, the only downside is that I wanted Joe Michael Straczynski to run it and he even applied for it. He created, wrote, and ran Babylon 5! Maybe RTD can bring on JMS to write and episode or two.
@@davidcave5426 wow, JMS? Didn't know that. Currently he's quoting B5 reboot.
I have my differences with Russel, but the guy can write. It's just knowing when to dial him back that may sometimes come up.
I'm looking forward to you guys seeing this season. It's a vast improvement over S8 IMO, some of Capaldi's best episodes
I knew your reaction would be so entertaining, Paula!
Finally my favorite season
Loved your Reactions Girls, your Expressions said a lot. Did you notice the tune Peter was playing on the guitar was the Doctor Who Theme?
I see all the comments mentioning how Capaldi was in a band with Craig Fergueson. They were called the Dreamboys. Here's a video someone made with a bunch of pictures of Capaldi and the band during their heyday around 1980 (when Capaldi was 22) with one of their songs "Outer Limits" (which Capaldi sings on in addition to playing lead guitar): ruclips.net/video/2AfGi-_fQ5o/видео.html
Love this ep
This was one of the better Doctor Missy Clara arcs. And when the kid said his name... :) Some good ones coming up.
Best season of newwho
I love this arc
Season 9!
Have you done any classic who yet? Can't wait.
We released our reaction to the six part classic story Daleks invasion of the earth! The last three weeks of who content is where you'll find it ☺️
@@KatAlysha thanks Kata.
Peter Capaldi's 1980's punk rock band, "the dreamboys" has live performances on youtube. here is their song, "Shall we dance" ruclips.net/video/Ab6V6ckS5NU/видео.html Craig Ferguson, former host of the late late show on CBS, was the drummer.
I love Missy. IMO one of the few things they got right consistently during the Moffat/Capaldi era.
Michelle Gomez is just a fantastic actor. She was a highlight of Sabrina too.
Another quality cat video!
have you guys covered the Tom Baker years (7 years up to 1981)? (The second best Doctor in my opinion - after the grouchy morally lacking William Hartnell's Doctor)
ps .. did you know .. writer of Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy (Douglas Adams) wrote 2 of the stories in that period.
At least, Wikipedia says so. (i believe anything Wikipedia says if it doesn't involve politics or economics)
While they have not covered all of the Tom Baker years, they have reacted to a bunch that were voted on if you scroll back far enough through their reactions.
@@MalcolmWolf - that's great. Thanks for the info.
paula might just love series 10...
If you love Gravity Falls and AtLA, may I recommend The Owl House (Disney cartoon) and She-Ra and the Princesses of Power (Netflix/Dreamworks cartoon)
Yes. Missy is everything 😍
I’d love to see y’all really dive into Classic Who, all the way from the start and not just piecemeal. Maybe once you’re completely caught up with New? There’s another reaction channel called SesskaSays who did that and has really gotten into it; I think your reactions to all of Classic would also be very enjoyable. Not every Classic story is good, but then that’s true of any series.
Paula what ?? Peter Capaldi was in a Rock Band like something when he was very young. His son is also making music. But you sure know that.
Davros knows...Davros remembers............
His entry scene in this is...AMAZING. An axe battle...heh. Pure Capaldi.
"If you want to go after the Doctor...go after his friends."
Flashback to A Good Man Goes to War, "Then tell me if it is good idea to try and get to me through the people I LOVE!"
you should both check out Green Wing an early Michelle Gomez role
Wonderfully bonkers and not just Michelle Gomez!
Thank goodness we've gotten season 8 of our season and we can go back to enjoying the show. This is where it gets REALLY good.
I think the biggest problem with this episode was the depiction of UNIT as unable to function without calling in a schoolteacher who happens to be friends with the Doctor. What was REALLY going on was that Clara needed someone to look smart against.
Clara has been portrayed as the most important companion of all time and to tell you the truth it is why I was not her biggest fan
@@booradley8895 Opinions are opinions but I'd like to point out that his Companions from the series revival up to and including this episode were/are:
Bad Wolf
Walked the Earth
Doctor Donna
A found family thanks in small part to them also being the parents of _the_ River Song
His Apprentice
Bonus Round for the part time companions:
The immortal philanderer
World saving badass
His _wife_ who's been crucial in many of his adventures while also having her own solo career as a Doctor-esque adventurer.
It's not just Clara, they're all the center of the universe. It's just how New Who has chosen to write the Companion role.
@@KHloreExpert Well said. Each companion is 'The Most Important' during their tenure through much of New Who. It's a bit exhausting as a fan of the Classic Series, but I got used to it. 🤷♀
New Who showrunner announced, not sure how much he knows about the subject though.
I'm sure he'll be a fast learner.
Peter Capaldi and Craig Ferguson used to be in a band together back in the day.
I love the contrast between the two showrunners and their approaches to opening episodes. Russell always kicked things off with a relatively small scale comedic romp with a heavy dosage of camp. By contrast, Steven is like "eh, fuck it. Let's start things off with a bang and throw our audience into the deep end."
I love the opening, and I love the ending, but the stuff in between mostly feels like filler, and in hindsight makes the majority of this episode feel rather insubstantial. There's stuff I like in the middle, namely most of Missy's scenes, as we get to explore her and the Doctor's relationship in a bit more detail beyond them just being enemies, and Michelle Gomez sells the hell out of the character and her role as the unreliable ally who might either help you or disintegrate you for laughs. That said, a lot of the scenes during this part lack any kind of momentum, throwing various characters and locations at the audience in an attempt to hide how little story there is in this episode. On top of that, there's quite a few moments of comedy that fail to land during this episode (Missy tickling the Dalek's...ahem, balls is a quite misjudged moment), UNIT are once again made to feel utterly useless, Clara doesn't end up getting very much to do, the Doctor's guitar concert is loads of fun, but the gags and puns do grate after a while, and the whole "The Doctor is going to die" thing feels like a plot point that's been done to death at this point in the Moffat era.
Still, "The Magician's Apprentice" has the benefit of starting well and ending well. The cold open is one of my favourites in the entire series, it's dark and atmospheric, the Hand Mines are a brilliantly creepy visual and concept, and the reveal of the child's identity is a moment that is played perfectly, with Capaldi's performance and the direction of Hettie McDonald (returning from "Blink") selling the moment perfectly. And then there's everything that happens once the story *actually* begins...33 minutes in. The revelation of Skaro is a perfect scene, with both Capaldi and Gomez acing the characters' sense of pure fear (seriously though, how often do we see the Master genuinely scared?), and Murray Gold reusing his Dalek theme from the series 4 finale was the perfect touch. Also returning from series 4 is Julian Bleach as Davros, toning down the screeching megalomania to deliver a much more unsettling and understated performance. The buildup to Clara's "death" is masterfully done, with Jenna Coleman's silent performance, the sinister background music, and Davros' insanely chilling speech doing a masterful job at elevating the tension. And Capaldi's depiction of the Doctor's grief immediately afterwards is phenomenal, you truly get the sense that the guy has become overcome with grief and rage, and it makes the cliffhanger where it looks like he might actually shoot the young Davros in the face all the more intense. After most of the episode was spent wasting time of superfluous nonsense, the final 15 minutes bring things home, and leave you on tenterhooks, just waiting to see how we're going to get out of this mess...and it's only episode 1!
Also, surprised neither of you connected the title to The Sorcerer's Apprentice. You know, the story about a young magician who creates an army of inhuman servants that fuck things up for everyone, and how the young man is unable to control his creations?
You've admirably made all the points I was going to make. :)
This episode is essentially a 20 minute prelude to next week's episode; padded out with storylines which are not only introduced and then summarily dropped,but which make no sense whatsoever. The last twenty minutes are great,though. The scene where Davros plays back the key moments from his,and the Doctors, past...gives me shivers!
Pew pew pew 😭
This was a great episode.
On another note, l am looking forward to watching Michelle Gomez as Madame Rouge in the new season (3rd Season) of Doom Patrol released today on HBOMAX. Especially great since season 3 looks like there will be no Timothy Dalton, who was unavailable for filming due to covid.
Yeah, both Michelle Gomez and Ty Tennant have got me soo excited for S3 of 'Doom Patrol'!
YOu see how great this is ?? The Doctor confronted Davros many times, but the 12th Doctor, is the first Doctor from Davros point of view.
I mean it is the first time he saw The Doctor. From the Doctor'as point of view, he met Davros in classic WHO first.
Russell T Davis’s back is the best thing ever
Great News, Russell T Davies to return as show runner according to the BBC today
Here's a head canon for you. We never saw the driver that hit and killed Danny Pink. Missy introduced Clara to the Doctor for a reason (spoiler).
MISSY killed Danny!...
Way off topic here, Katrina, what is the tattoo on your wrist, looks like a Ghibli soot sprite? Anyway, in the 80's Peter played guitar in a punk band called The Dreamboys. Story is that Peter was working on a solo album during lockdown - I hope so
awww why why why did you cut out the scene where they re use the dialogue from 'genesis of the daleks' ? i know you can only use so much footage, but c'mon gals that was cruel haha
Complaining about their editing? EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!
@@darthken815 haha guess i need ‘maximum extermination!!’ 😋 at least they mentioned the call back to genesis
You should definitely look up The Dreamboys!
Wow these two are goddesses. 🙃
Please check out Michelle Gomez doing her stand up comedy routines.
So quick to forgive Missy after killing one of the most endearing character teased as being a possible future companion.....
Can I suggest The Expanse, if you guys haven't watched it already?
It's on their very large list to watch when they are done with one of their other shows.
@@MalcolmWolf Got it, thanks
Missy killing two people without remorse, yeah what a gal
She's an incredible villain and as discussed it's Michelle Gomez's performance that makes it all the more better/complicated.
I felt the same about John Simm's version of the Master.
@@KatAlysha Gloating over the fact the man had just had a baby and had a family felt just too cruel and unnecessary. That was more being evil rather than bad
@@booradley8895 Missy is an example of what is wrong with Time Lords - it's what made the Sixth Doctor so dismissive of them - they've had uncounted millennia of being the unregulated center of the universe, and it has made them corrupt and uncaring. Missy didn't HATE the guy she killed, he just absolutely didn't matter to her with his stupid little lifespan. He was just useful to her by dying. And it was fun. Basically, she stood on a bug.
I'm here to see Paula getting upset as opposed to Katrina watching STNG when she gets upset..
Hey Missy, you so fine. 🖤
I am completely disoriented by this quick and clear intro. Am I on the wrong website?
😂😂👏
Mmm, watching Michelle Gomez in something else, right now. Crossover?
Bad Education, by any chance?
Green Wing? That whole thing is genius and barking mad simultaneously.
@@ZondaFRoadster it has Rassilon Mk1, and a 1969 FBI agent. Figure it out.
@@dngillikin Concentrate on NewWho. Or request clarification.
Okay, spoilers below, Good Night:
She plays a possibly new threat in Doom Patrol S03.