Ryan needs to be involved with all Star Wars coverage on EFAP going forward. His autistic lore knowledge is increadibly valuable for filling in the gaps the rest of the crew have. He also sticks up for old EU concepts that these shows butcher.
It's so fun listening to them try to rationalize what kind of misunderstanding will take place in episode three, only to get the literal smoky force demon later lol
It was like when The Mummy sucks the damn LIFE FORCE out of the bandit guy, but worse because she was going smoky demon mode too, and dissolving the small child she was screaming at. What the fuck.
So according to Leslie, Sol deserve death for being presumptive/paternalistic with Osha, but Anissa gets a pass for pushing witchery on her over protests, Horn-Mom never has it acknowledge she physically abused Mae and started the fight with the Jedi unilaterally, and Mae never has to admit let alone answer for being creepy and possessive of her sister to the point of attempting to murder her over Osha wanting her own path in life and an identity other than “Mae’s pushover twin”.
No. Mae did admit to attempting to kill her sister. Right at the end and then Osha forgave her. It's just that that makes it worse because you don't forgive attempted murder after a simple apology over a decade later especially when that attempted murder also burned down your home and the attempted murderer never acknowledged why she was wrong to do so.
Which side was cooler in this? The sith looked cringe and pathetic recruiting people via strategic nakedness and dismissing anyone you don't get to have sex with as unimportant and the Jedi were just really really stupid.
@@JohnSmith-zl1tr True but the show & creator of the show thinks the great sin of the Jedi was killing the evil lesbian space witch cult. Which just looking at the situation as it occurred shows the Jedi being entirely reasonable. They're not likeable because their in this show but on the balance of who's better it's not even close between them & the cringe loser twins.
@@josephkerrigan733 Oh, I was thinking about Jedi vs Sith. But if it's the Jedi vs the Twins it's not contest, the twins were pathetic whining failures that only succeeded because everyone around them Jedi and Sith kept helping them even when they shouldn't have. The Jedi were really stupid but had brief(very brief) moments of coolness here and there and actually wanted to help children instead of deciding not to kill them and their parents at the last moment like Mae did in the first episode.
@@JohnSmith-zl1tr Yeah I mean on the Sith side we've only got Smilo Ren who decided to confess to assisting in the murder of a Jedi Master. On the Jedi side they're all morons as you said except in the past when they actually did their god damn job & then felt really guilty afterwards that they killed those demon lesbian space witches.
First episode: “we can’t let the Republic know that a Jedi is killing our own because our political rivals will use it against us” Last episode: “a Jedi master went nuts and started killing Jedi”
Looking at Yord's and Jecki's death is seriously fucked up in hindsight, even though they aren't given much. Same for all Jedis in that battle. Dudes.... You gave your life for an evil psychopath, only for her to kill your beloved master. Also, The guy you put your faith in, a good man in most aspects, just wasted your sacrifice because he felt guilt over a NORMAL kill.
I didn't really care about Yord and Jecki as characters. I'm not invested enough in the show to care. And yet, somehow, it feels like I care more about their deaths than Osha did. And her moving on from their deaths so fast actually pisses me off.
4:35:05 oh these sweet summer children, thinking it would be that subtle or well thought out instead of "Darth Plagueis peering round the corner of a cave like an abused dog"
Can we talk about how the twin chant doesn't make any sense either? One girl says "I give you you" and the other says "And you give me me" That's the same fucking thing. One of the twins is entirely dependent on the other to even exist. They should both say it at the same time at least.
The levels of projection are mind-blowing in this show. Every evil character needs to project evil onto the good characters in order for them to justify their actions. It’s both incompetence and malice by people who hate their audience, the source material and writing as an art form. The circle is complete and Star Wars is dead. At least I have my books and physical movie copies.
@@addgame7961yeah her ex love interest that he murdered lmao. Sry if she was crushing on that blank slate that hard she wouldn't NEVER have even taken in what he said to her. This show is so bad. My buddy is a "consume product" Star wars fan and he fucking hated this entire show from ep 1.
@@EndevourMan-gz8nl no, it’s a compilation of all their watch throughs over the course of the last 7 weeks with the same editing. It’s a common tactic by RUclipsrs that’s very successful. Essentially release an amount of videos as a series, then rerelease that series as one massive ‘Supercut’ or ‘Movie’. Watch the Spiffing Brit’s video ‘Don’t watch this video, sleep instead’. He explains it well there. Long story short, you don’t have to watch it, the videos do well, the creators you like get even more money from making them.
Leslye is estranged from her sister. My headcanon for why is: Leslye (during her "torturing small animals" phase) intentionally killed her sister's puppy, which made her sister angry. And when Leslye explained that being angry about puppy-killing was restricting her freedom to "use her power the way she wants, without having to answer to people like you", she demanded an apology, but her sister refused. And according to the sick freaks at Disney, my headcanon is just as valid as reality. I hope her sister never EVER speaks to her again. There's a salacious documentary here: someone needs to blow the lid off exactly who Harvey Weinstein hired as his personal assistant. At this point, if it came out that Harvey didn't do anything, and all his victims were just survivors from leslye's sex dungeon, I'd believe it without question.
If the rumors are true that KK wants to leave after getting a win she’s going to be there for a LONG time, this is the same person who was “moved to tears” by the power of the MANYYYY!!!! In simple terms, the franchise is beyond cooked and all we can do is sit back and the clown show.
I wonder what would Qui-Gon, Mace Windu and Obi-Wan think if they know that the reason they are all dead is because Yoda helped Venestra cover up the crimes of her padawan and frame it on the hero like Sol. Sol’s force ghost must be laughing his ass off when Palpatine did the Order 66 against the Jedi.
Naw cuz Qui-Gon is the first person to learn to force ghost which is why the rise of Skywalker is stupid she absorbed force ghosts that didn't exist...
Wow, so they wrote this in a way where bad people can cover for other bad people and never be investigated. The good die young and pricks live forever.
So, regarding the whole "the Jedi are an evil cult that kidnaps children" thing... before the dark times of Disney, in the EU, it was not only possible to leave the Jedi Order if you wanted (though admittely, such cases were rare), the Jedi would outright throw you out if your training did not progress enough. If you were a certain age and no Master took you on as their Padawan, you wouldn't stay a Youngling forever, you would have to leave the order. In the Republic Commando books, a Padawan thinks about how she narrowly avoided the fate of going back to her home planet and using her meager force powers to help crops grow thanks to her Master choosing her, something she was very thankful for. Though I think it is still somewhat unclear what the Jedi would do if parents would not want to part with their child, the position of "we are gonna make sure the child is trained and not a danger to anyone, and they can leave and return to their family after sufficent training should they choose to" is quite reasonable in the circumstances, all things considered. Certainly more reasonable than a certain Witch-Cult I could mention...
In the EU, if a youngling/padawan failed to progress in their Jedi training, they were allowed to serve in other areas such as humanitarian work and logistics.
I love how efap speculating the disappointing conclusion to the things writers are setting up, but they are actually giving the writers to much credit. Wait, no i dont!
Never in the field of human conflict have so many TIPPLES! been twissled, by so few. We are truly blessed to be living in the absolute best and non-tismy timeline.
The morals of the people who wrote this show are all over the place. It's like the theme is completely disconnected from the plot. They made it so the Jedi didn't do anything wrong, then spent the season bashing them and claiming the witches were totally in the right. Sol's only fault was being a complete moron by not explaining things properly to either of the twins at any point. Seriously, how do these writers have jobs?
"Well the Jedi are clearly lying. There's FOUR Jedi here, they are obviously lying about thinking the planet was uninhabited and they've even been spying on them for probably a while." Then it turns out the Jedi were completely honest and they weren't even spying on them. Sol just saw them in the forest, which is a totally public location not like inside their settlement AT ALL, so it's not spying, and then they greeted the locals they GENUINELY didn't know was there. Somehow. It's just so retarded it's obvious that there's something else there, but then there just isn't.
It's not as if the premise of the whole show isn't braindead already, but one small thing that always annoyed me was that "the skillset of the Jedi is non-transferable" bunk in EP1. The Jedi weren't just about lightsabers and the Force; they were also diplomats, ambassadors, investigators, and a whole bunch more. That's an extremely diverse skill-set. Even if she only received basic training, unless she was a monumental failure at learning any of that, there's no way she couldn't have landed some cushy job within the Republic by referencing that "Hey, I'm from the Jedi Temple", especially when it's pretty obvious that not all kids would make the cut and so there should already be established channels for employing them elsewhere. Heck, wasn't it implied that, in-universe, Palpatine's backstory was that he was a drop-out? Or was it some other Senator? In any case, it kind of shows that those skills are very much transferable.
Even nonlearned skills exist for force sensitive. They naturally have enhanced reflexes/precognition. It's been stated(idk when or where) that if Anakin had never been trained, he still would have become a universally renowned podracer.
@@SolarDragon007Which kind of contradicts what we see and what is mentioned in the films and TV as Dooku and Ahsoka both leave the Jedi Order voluntarily. Which also brings up the issue of so many failed Jedi falling to the Dark Side if its as dangerous as it is portrayed as.
Torbins tragedy would have been better if Carrie Moss said sometging like “out job as Jedi is to seek knowledge in the force” and so, wanting to prove himself and learn, he sees the witches doing magic and goes to ask them questions. They corrupt him and Torbin fights the other Jedi while amped up by witch magic. He breaks free of the spell and he regrets not knowing the difference between light and dark. Then in the final confrontation between withces and Jedi he rushes in headstrong for revenge and then the rest plays out. He allowed himself to fall and then he didnt learn from it and became aggressive which caused the deaths of dozens of space witches
One of the worst crimes of Doucheney "She Bores" is how often they use idiom and language from our society. Lucas knew not to use phrases we recognize in order to keep a galaxy far, far away... far, far away. "The Woke-alyte" does this way more than any other offering from the Rat, and it's really jarring. Thanks, Lezzye! 😬
Sol being the bad guy is Akin to Rian Johnson telling us Admiral Holdo is a Hero. The owners of Star Wars have leaned into RJs vision, hardcore. They are LOST!
It's funny seeing how the predictions of the crew turn out. It's funny when they're right, but also funny when they're wrong because usually it is because they were too charitable and assumed a chain of logic.
2:31:40 Damn, I've never considered maximizing my defenses, I always thought I'll just keep that dial turned down somewhat. Golly am I glad to receive a Jedi's lessons in swordplay.
Even then they fail. The kid flips out and rushes in because he was mind graped they get into an armed conflict because of horn mom Sol kills the boss witch because she offered no explanation before turning into a nazghul then the others all cast a hostile spell that will kill them if broken and that the enemy has the obvious powers and obvious need to break. At every possible phase the jedi were forced into action, their only sin was failing to accurately report the incident.
Nah, a Sith would write something better. This is just a former predator's partner in crime lez filled agenda fantasies within the framework of a predator filled company that wants to takeover young people's heads with this sort of thing;
Funny how none of the jedi know what PIP is. Yord thinks she's reaching for a weapon in episode 1. And in episode 2 Sol asks what pip is (while murder suspect is syncing it to their ship) and yet in the last episodes Mae finds a PILE of the pip lower units INSIDE THE JEDIS SHIP!....
I still don't even know why PIP is a fucking droid. It cannot walk, it cannot operate machinery on its own, it cannot active tech at a distance, it needs to be charged, it's for some reason filled with some kind of oil like substance, its main use is a fucking flashlight. Why is it a droid!? That's SO much extra technology to shove into such a SMALL object for NO advantage! And if it's so fucking useful, WHY DOESN'T ANYONE ELSE HAVE ONE!? There were TONS of R2 units and Protocol droids. R2 and C3PO were NOT unique droids, fuck's sake, even the sequels put like ONE other BB8 droid in the movies, but this stone faced bitch has the ONLY pip droid in the galaxy.
Ryans absolutely right at 3:02:01 it wasn't just Disney, it all started with Filoni fucking with all aspects, inputting his own self insert characters, as well as pissing over the mystique of the force. Sad part is Lucas fucked up by letting too much slide with the clone wars because he was so blinded by his greed for merchandising. Ultimately he forgot what sold so much merchandise, it was because of good story telling and all that effort to make a truly unique universe.
5:38:50 probably the ONLY defence I can Muster for this show in this scene (not that anybody cares) is it seems like Sol is trying to recuple/dock with the smaller ship. There is no reason to get spitting distance close with a target to fire on it, (which would only make you crash into an exploding ship) and when he flicks the switch on the console you can hear a 'clacking" sound, which may indicate the coupling clamps engaging. It is just for whatever reason the scene is shot as though trying to make the audience (or Beaver boy) think he is trying to kill her.. Just fake suspense and an excuse for Mae to escape. ^.-.^ There, daily Devil's advocation quota met.
Weren't yellow/orange lightsabers supposed to be very rare and special? And didn't the blue and green ones both have their own affinities, and since those two were more common paths to tread, you would see those more? I mean, it's not like I spent half my life immersed in Star Wars lore when it still existed, or anything. But uhm, yeah. Duck Fisney.
Who here rewatching this after the news of the cancelation, huge W. But now they have no way to explain why yoda/mundi didn't know about sith or what was the way to "take out one without an weapon" - despite how he clearly took out all those jedis with an weapon -
I started watching this EFAP compilation, and realised, I don't give a shit about the Acolyte SO MUCH, that I won't even "watch" it through our lads reacting. What a waste of 200 millions dollars, OMEGALOL.
I don’t know which is more hilarious.. This sheet metric ton of what the crew _PERFECTLY_ predicted… Or the specific things they got wrong. I.e. “there’s no way this will end up the worst Disney Star Wars yet…” 💀💀💀💀
For the kind of budgets these shows have, they should be able to hire the best writers in the world. And yet time and time again, we get sub fanfic tier writing, and I wish that was an exaggeration. Forget good writing, at this point I dont even expect them to get the basics down like character motivation and time. It's hard to wrap my head around.
Does that saber lesson remind anybody else of Gahlladrel's bullshit instructions in Rings of Power? Keep it tight yet subtle, but also simple and strong.
From my understanding, based upon the old Obi-wan Kenobi novels where he first became Qui-gon’s padawan, and a couple other books, the Jedi were willingly called by the parents/communities/planets where force sensitive children were suspected (although there wasn’t any law about it as far as I’m aware). Some basic tests would be done there, depending on how old the child was, and then options given. We can take and train your child (standard padawan story, limit familial connections as young as possible), or not. It was the parent’s choice, and if the answer was no they’d be given advice on how to deal with/raise the kid going forward since there was a decent chance they’d be special, but odds are without training they’d just be hyper talented (like Anakin being an amazing pilot). Sure as hell was nothing like they showed in this poor excuse of a show. Edit for spelling.
Which goes to show how small in scale Star Wars is as a whole when a galaxy of hundreds of trillions only produces 10,000 Jedi at their peak with almost noone outside of it.
I could swear there was a thing called a training saber, which was just a real light saber, but only powerful enough to shock. Like a hand buzzer lightsaber.
Is it just me or does Amandla seem like she’s trying to make her voice sound more deep than it really is? She’s a remarkably terrible actress esp considering this entire mess was created FOR her specifically ..
It really baffles me that the people who worked on this show think the Jedi are the bad guys. The only thing I can think that might have been bad was trespassing. Anyway, this show is incredibly bad
I distinctly remember there being a whole bit in the prequels about basic lightsaber safety, control, and attention to where it is being like this very fundamental part of Jedi training. But I guess we don't need that for Pissney lightbats.
There's nothing theoretically wrong with saying "To be a proper bad dude, you need to choke a bitch with the force". That is very dark side. And, canonically, force choking someone to death is genuinely very hard to do. The force doesn't like to kill things, you have to be strong and driven by the dark to do it. So there is the germ of a good idea somewhere. And it would be very Sith to say that sure, you can be good with a lightsabre, but the force is your real weapon. That ties to stuff like Palpatine in the OT not even having a light sabre because he was so into the force lightning. If we tell this story we can actually preserve that Vader and Palpatine are scary and powerful, because we can show our acolytes actually struggling to do it, and maybe having to lightsabre someone who broke free and getting mad about it. Just... You can make a good story about "An acolyte does not need a lightsabre". So why the hell do we have all of this nonsense which has NOTHING to do with that? The whole series is only eight episodes long! Were they that desperate to fill time?
In Legends novel Dark Lord: Rise of Darth Vader, a jedi was discovered by the Order as a boy but his father called the jedi while the mother didn't want to give him up. As he trained he refused to partake in the Order's branch that was responsible for finding new apprentices. He was reunited with his mother while the Jedi Purge was underway.
I feel like EFAP and Star Wars Theory are the only channels now where I can actually have a conversation about Star Wars that’s focused on its problems rather than trying to make it a political thing. I’m so tired of either extreme of the dialogue, I’m not a bigot for thinking Acolyte is bad and I’m not a clapping seal Disney shill for thinking Andor was good. Like can we all just talk about why this shit doesn’t work and give credit when it does without throwing all these stupid labels? You guys are a refreshing change, as a normie I appreciate y’all for keeping your criticisms focused and exposing the absolutely valid problems with Disney Star Wars. I still watch the Not So Great Debate sometimes just to remind myself I’m not crazy for disliking the direction this stuff is going. That being said if Andor Season 2 is anything like the Acolyte, I can’t give anymore chances cause this was BAAAAAD 😢
Rags talking about how you mine Phrick got me thinking about something. In one of the EU books from before Disney Han finds the facility where the scientists who designed the Death Star are located and are still working on future weapons. Example the suncusher which fires a special torpedoes that ensure any sun regardless of size goes super nova. When asking head scientist why they agreed to design the Death Star super laser. She responded. It's for mining. Instead of slowly mining asteroids we can use this to destroy huge asteroids and make obtaining the resources within easier. She wasn't lying either she was just that naive. Reason I bring this up is because she also suffers from a mind wipe where a young and slightly unhinged jedi student at Luke's new academy who is starting to succumb to the dark side tracks her down but decides not to kill her instead uses the force to rob her of any memory or knowledge involved with building the superweapons she helped the empire build. So yeah memory wipes were also a thing in the EU. Not saying it was good writing there either but just love how much they said. "We have nothing to draw upon for our Star Wars stories" hard cuts to them picking and choosing stuff from the de-canonized books.
I was going to comment on how uninteresting the protagonist(/s if we count that the twins are meant to be different) and how almost all the other characters outshine them (not exactly a tall order) but i realised it's not really a standout thing anymore, outside of this time around it's basically getting the same character twice. I was hoping i could find the moment it's mentioned here but ah well. It's totally an unfair comparison in many ways but i find it funny that a character who's 'robbed' of their role in the story, kinda making them more of a support character, is still far more interesting than a pair of 'supposedly different' characters that have active roles in the story, including all the twists and turns. To be fair, the comparison character i mentioned still does things that add to or reflect her character even without her 'true' role and we all know having actual characters is beyond these modern writers.
The lads were a bit mystified by all the interest in The Acolyte from us and for me at least I guess I just still care about Star Wars. I don’t remember a time before having watched the OT and the prequels weren’t far behind. It absorbed my childhood imagination entirely and I find new ways to connect to the first six films even now. It’s such a cool world and miraculously still unique, and only two films ever have applied it to its maximum potential. At least while we watch these toilet paper TV shows we can learn more about what we like from the old stories.
There is actually some totally justified reasons this whole show is the way it is and why it's actually secretly genius. The whole reason is...oh shit, somethings come up, brb
So cortosis was a thing in the EU before the Disney buyout. As for why not everyone uses it if I recall unlike besker which is super durable and just is able to resist lightsabers cortosis simply shorts out the saber before it has a chance to cut through it. As such while it's good against lightsabers I believe it's not as effective to stopping blaster fire. Also as mentioned it's rare and it's mining was heavily regulated especially back during the jedi sith wars.
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This supercut has them all. Not just the coverage of one episode, but of two, and the MAANYYYY too. EFAP slaughtered them all like animals.
I LOVE THEM! ❤
Still, they were not nearly as savage as they could be.
DSW apathy got the boys hard.
YOU TURNED THEM AGAINST ME
How dare you contaminate the relative glory of AOTC with this crap
I see Peta on the horizon.
Ryan needs to be involved with all Star Wars coverage on EFAP going forward. His autistic lore knowledge is increadibly valuable for filling in the gaps the rest of the crew have. He also sticks up for old EU concepts that these shows butcher.
Ryan and Theo both brought so much to these watch alongs.
@@DUKEzors They`re such a good combo. I wonder what the discussions would`ve been like for Mandalorian and Book of Boba Fett if they were on.
If only Ryan could get Mauler to watch Tartakovsky's Clone Wars lol
Ryan is my spirit animal whenever he rants about how shitty DSW is on any stream he's on.
@@DUKEzors nah theos a twat
It's so fun listening to them try to rationalize what kind of misunderstanding will take place in episode three, only to get the literal smoky force demon later lol
It was like when The Mummy sucks the damn LIFE FORCE out of the bandit guy, but worse because she was going smoky demon mode too, and dissolving the small child she was screaming at. What the fuck.
So according to Leslie, Sol deserve death for being presumptive/paternalistic with Osha, but Anissa gets a pass for pushing witchery on her over protests, Horn-Mom never has it acknowledge she physically abused Mae and started the fight with the Jedi unilaterally, and Mae never has to admit let alone answer for being creepy and possessive of her sister to the point of attempting to murder her over Osha wanting her own path in life and an identity other than “Mae’s pushover twin”.
No. Mae did admit to attempting to kill her sister. Right at the end and then Osha forgave her. It's just that that makes it worse because you don't forgive attempted murder after a simple apology over a decade later especially when that attempted murder also burned down your home and the attempted murderer never acknowledged why she was wrong to do so.
It just more insane/sad given how much the actor for sol worked hard for such an atrocity and she made sure to take him out
To paraphrase E;R:
"The problem with making both sides assholes is that one side is objectively cooler when they're being assholes."
Which side was cooler in this? The sith looked cringe and pathetic recruiting people via strategic nakedness and dismissing anyone you don't get to have sex with as unimportant and the Jedi were just really really stupid.
@@JohnSmith-zl1tr True but the show & creator of the show thinks the great sin of the Jedi was killing the evil lesbian space witch cult. Which just looking at the situation as it occurred shows the Jedi being entirely reasonable. They're not likeable because their in this show but on the balance of who's better it's not even close between them & the cringe loser twins.
@@josephkerrigan733 Oh, I was thinking about Jedi vs Sith. But if it's the Jedi vs the Twins it's not contest, the twins were pathetic whining failures that only succeeded because everyone around them Jedi and Sith kept helping them even when they shouldn't have. The Jedi were really stupid but had brief(very brief) moments of coolness here and there and actually wanted to help children instead of deciding not to kill them and their parents at the last moment like Mae did in the first episode.
@@JohnSmith-zl1tr Yeah I mean on the Sith side we've only got Smilo Ren who decided to confess to assisting in the murder of a Jedi Master. On the Jedi side they're all morons as you said except in the past when they actually did their god damn job & then felt really guilty afterwards that they killed those demon lesbian space witches.
@@josephkerrigan733Hey, you can’t forget Darth Plagueis
First episode: “we can’t let the Republic know that a Jedi is killing our own because our political rivals will use it against us”
Last episode: “a Jedi master went nuts and started killing Jedi”
This show was literally two woman fighting over one brain cell and the groups that are awkwardly orbiting them and dying constantly.
Not literally, figuratively.
Theyre trying to reach third place btw
@Edax_Royeaux no... no, in this case, it is literally.
@@2ndlegend125 Most organisms literally can't even breathe on one brain cell.
@@Edax_Royeaux Not figuratively, actually.
Looking at Yord's and Jecki's death is seriously fucked up in hindsight, even though they aren't given much. Same for all Jedis in that battle.
Dudes.... You gave your life for an evil psychopath, only for her to kill your beloved master. Also, The guy you put your faith in, a good man in most aspects, just wasted your sacrifice because he felt guilt over a NORMAL kill.
Don’t forget that their big boss covered up their deaths to protect her from being held accountable for turning her ex-padawan into a serial killer.
Too much patience and forgiveness is the fertile earth that allows evil can grow.
@@SiriusSphynx"Aku soku zan"
This just shows the "writer" has no concept of morality... Which is basically insane and screams psychopath or at the minimum of sociopath
@brandonvallier4214 Well, she was Harvey Weinstein's personal assistant, so it checks out
Qimir: _Brutally kills Jecki, refers to her corpse as "it," snap's Yord's neck like celer_
Osha: "That's the hottest thing I've ever seen"
I didn't really care about Yord and Jecki as characters. I'm not invested enough in the show to care. And yet, somehow, it feels like I care more about their deaths than Osha did. And her moving on from their deaths so fast actually pisses me off.
Good news and bad news.
The good: The show got canceled
The bad: EFEP will not get to react to a hypothetical worse second season
4:35:05 oh these sweet summer children, thinking it would be that subtle or well thought out instead of "Darth Plagueis peering round the corner of a cave like an abused dog"
Can we talk about how the twin chant doesn't make any sense either?
One girl says "I give you you" and the other says "And you give me me" That's the same fucking thing. One of the twins is entirely dependent on the other to even exist.
They should both say it at the same time at least.
The levels of projection are mind-blowing in this show. Every evil character needs to project evil onto the good characters in order for them to justify their actions. It’s both incompetence and malice by people who hate their audience, the source material and writing as an art form. The circle is complete and Star Wars is dead. At least I have my books and physical movie copies.
Osha’s instant corruption after seeing Smilo Ren’s ding dong seems unrealistic at first…
Until you realize there are actual fans of Ted Bundy.
Woman moment.
Ding-Dong so powerful that it turn her straight and immediately forgets about her ex-girlfriend.
@@addgame7961yeah her ex love interest that he murdered lmao. Sry if she was crushing on that blank slate that hard she wouldn't NEVER have even taken in what he said to her. This show is so bad. My buddy is a "consume product" Star wars fan and he fucking hated this entire show from ep 1.
"Maybe women were a mistake." - Mauler
@@DaMaster012"You go, girl." *Chris Hemsworth thumbs-up*
Only on EFAP could an entire watch through of a entire series be called a mini
HAH you foolish fool. This is no EFAP mini, *Gerard butler voice* THIS IS EFAP TV
Was it titled mini at first? I'm not seeing that atm.
They changed it to EFAP TV
isn’t just a compilation of all of their watch parties over the 7 weeks the show was airing… just without the editing?
@@EndevourMan-gz8nl no, it’s a compilation of all their watch throughs over the course of the last 7 weeks with the same editing. It’s a common tactic by RUclipsrs that’s very successful. Essentially release an amount of videos as a series, then rerelease that series as one massive ‘Supercut’ or ‘Movie’. Watch the Spiffing Brit’s video ‘Don’t watch this video, sleep instead’. He explains it well there.
Long story short, you don’t have to watch it, the videos do well, the creators you like get even more money from making them.
"They liked that thing that was popular," explains so much about the writers of this show.
"From my point of view the Jedi are evil."
"WELL THEN YOU ARE LOST!!"
@@mariokarter13 "YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE! In my opinion."
"With your permission."
"A Jedi doesn't attack the unarmed."
His hand is ON THE LIGHTSABER!
That constitutes being armed, in a court of law.
Leslye is estranged from her sister. My headcanon for why is: Leslye (during her "torturing small animals" phase) intentionally killed her sister's puppy, which made her sister angry. And when Leslye explained that being angry about puppy-killing was restricting her freedom to "use her power the way she wants, without having to answer to people like you", she demanded an apology, but her sister refused.
And according to the sick freaks at Disney, my headcanon is just as valid as reality. I hope her sister never EVER speaks to her again.
There's a salacious documentary here: someone needs to blow the lid off exactly who Harvey Weinstein hired as his personal assistant. At this point, if it came out that Harvey didn't do anything, and all his victims were just survivors from leslye's sex dungeon, I'd believe it without question.
This TV series would only be like 2 episodes long if they just arrested and read the mind of Qimir.
It should have only been one as Trinity should have beaten Mae easily and read her mind to discover the location of her master.
It looks like the real acolyte was the tism we developed along the way
More effort went into this compilation then the diss track Osha’s actress dropped
More effort went into the thumbnail alone, nevermind the video.
she dont fuck wit my discourse, yo
she straight from the ghetto (which is a coffee shop in Denmark)
-Little Platoon
Dumped, more like. 😄
more effort went into the disstrack than the script of the show.
0/10 needs more angry twerking
If the rumors are true that KK wants to leave after getting a win she’s going to be there for a LONG time, this is the same person who was “moved to tears” by the power of the MANYYYY!!!!
In simple terms, the franchise is beyond cooked and all we can do is sit back and the clown show.
"this is the same person who was “moved to tears” by the power of the MANYYYY!!!!" - Please tell me you're joking
@@kriegaone3658 No I’m not, Leslie is on record stating that KK LOVED her script and that it made her cry tears of joy.
@@RogueFox2185 That's not really much better but it's a bit more vague
Been there since 2018 but welcome
I wonder what would Qui-Gon, Mace Windu and Obi-Wan think if they know that the reason they are all dead is because Yoda helped Venestra cover up the crimes of her padawan and frame it on the hero like Sol.
Sol’s force ghost must be laughing his ass off when Palpatine did the Order 66 against the Jedi.
Yoda vs. Palpatine, Yoda hears a whisper in the Force...
And it's Sol cheering on Palpatine.
Qui-Gon is already tilted, being the only one dying from lightsaber wounds
Naw cuz Qui-Gon is the first person to learn to force ghost which is why the rise of Skywalker is stupid she absorbed force ghosts that didn't exist...
Just because you're a jedi, doesn't mean you get a force ghost.
@@Atheismo9760isn't that contradicting sequal lore about everyone getting firce ghosts.
The Senator who hates the Jedi - that was the dude from Batwoman Infinite Tisms who thought Clark Kent was married to some guy named Luis.
Dr. Deegan and the Book of Destiny 😂
Looks like destiny had a little rewrite.
Superman's there with Louis!
Is this the same Louis that doesn't let people finish games?
Would watch a Star Wars show where the main villain was midget Lex Luthor.
this TV show tweeted my TIPPLES as part of the ABUSE
Wow, so they wrote this in a way where bad people can cover for other bad people and never be investigated.
The good die young and pricks live forever.
From the former assistant of Harvey Weinstein
@@ShadowRulah Who'd have thunk?
Write what you know.
The Acolyte kills Star Wars without a weapon.
Well it’s official: Acolyte Season 2 is cancelled, apparently because of “racism”.
Soooooo…
RACISM WINS AGAIN WOOOOOO.
Alrighty gents, pull out the marshmallows and the camp chairs. It's a summer Saturday and it's time to watch a quality roast
6 and a half hours and cost no where near $180 million. Id say this was a really good video.
So, regarding the whole "the Jedi are an evil cult that kidnaps children" thing... before the dark times of Disney, in the EU, it was not only possible to leave the Jedi Order if you wanted (though admittely, such cases were rare), the Jedi would outright throw you out if your training did not progress enough. If you were a certain age and no Master took you on as their Padawan, you wouldn't stay a Youngling forever, you would have to leave the order. In the Republic Commando books, a Padawan thinks about how she narrowly avoided the fate of going back to her home planet and using her meager force powers to help crops grow thanks to her Master choosing her, something she was very thankful for.
Though I think it is still somewhat unclear what the Jedi would do if parents would not want to part with their child, the position of "we are gonna make sure the child is trained and not a danger to anyone, and they can leave and return to their family after sufficent training should they choose to" is quite reasonable in the circumstances, all things considered. Certainly more reasonable than a certain Witch-Cult I could mention...
And that really doesn't gel with what they claim about the Dark Side and their stance on not training older students.
In the EU, if a youngling/padawan failed to progress in their Jedi training, they were allowed to serve in other areas such as humanitarian work and logistics.
@@SolarDragon007 Yep.
Makes much more sense considering how easy it is to fall to the Dark Side.
Sweet.
Just heading into work.
This will do nicely.
I love how efap speculating the disappointing conclusion to the things writers are setting up, but they are actually giving the writers to much credit. Wait, no i dont!
Never in the field of human conflict have so many TIPPLES! been twissled, by so few. We are truly blessed to be living in the absolute best and non-tismy timeline.
FUCKIN'... TIPPAAAALLLLS 😂
I've seen wooden puppets show more emotion than Amandla Stenberg's face.
The morals of the people who wrote this show are all over the place. It's like the theme is completely disconnected from the plot. They made it so the Jedi didn't do anything wrong, then spent the season bashing them and claiming the witches were totally in the right. Sol's only fault was being a complete moron by not explaining things properly to either of the twins at any point. Seriously, how do these writers have jobs?
"This is one of the better episodes" Mauler was sadly right about the slob that was the first episode...
Knowing the end from the beginning makes every element of the story so much worse.
It makes listening to the guys speculate on what's going to happen kind of hilarious.
"Well the Jedi are clearly lying. There's FOUR Jedi here, they are obviously lying about thinking the planet was uninhabited and they've even been spying on them for probably a while."
Then it turns out the Jedi were completely honest and they weren't even spying on them. Sol just saw them in the forest, which is a totally public location not like inside their settlement AT ALL, so it's not spying, and then they greeted the locals they GENUINELY didn't know was there. Somehow.
It's just so retarded it's obvious that there's something else there, but then there just isn't.
It's not as if the premise of the whole show isn't braindead already, but one small thing that always annoyed me was that "the skillset of the Jedi is non-transferable" bunk in EP1. The Jedi weren't just about lightsabers and the Force; they were also diplomats, ambassadors, investigators, and a whole bunch more. That's an extremely diverse skill-set. Even if she only received basic training, unless she was a monumental failure at learning any of that, there's no way she couldn't have landed some cushy job within the Republic by referencing that "Hey, I'm from the Jedi Temple", especially when it's pretty obvious that not all kids would make the cut and so there should already be established channels for employing them elsewhere. Heck, wasn't it implied that, in-universe, Palpatine's backstory was that he was a drop-out? Or was it some other Senator? In any case, it kind of shows that those skills are very much transferable.
Even nonlearned skills exist for force sensitive. They naturally have enhanced reflexes/precognition. It's been stated(idk when or where) that if Anakin had never been trained, he still would have become a universally renowned podracer.
In "Legends," Padawans who failed to make it as Jedi were moved to other duties like humanitarian work and logistics.
In "Legends," Padawans who failed to make it as Jedi were moved to other duties like humanitarian work and logistics.
Pretty much.
It's like saying Spiderman, Captain America, or Doctor Strange have no transferable skills if they decided to not be superheroes.
@@SolarDragon007Which kind of contradicts what we see and what is mentioned in the films and TV as Dooku and Ahsoka both leave the Jedi Order voluntarily.
Which also brings up the issue of so many failed Jedi falling to the Dark Side if its as dangerous as it is portrayed as.
Torbins tragedy would have been better if Carrie Moss said sometging like “out job as Jedi is to seek knowledge in the force” and so, wanting to prove himself and learn, he sees the witches doing magic and goes to ask them questions. They corrupt him and Torbin fights the other Jedi while amped up by witch magic. He breaks free of the spell and he regrets not knowing the difference between light and dark. Then in the final confrontation between withces and Jedi he rushes in headstrong for revenge and then the rest plays out. He allowed himself to fall and then he didnt learn from it and became aggressive which caused the deaths of dozens of space witches
"Dozens of" indeed.
It's so fun to see all the beginning cringe again, knowing it leads nowhere and is actually just edgy for edgy sake 😂
One of the worst crimes of Doucheney "She Bores" is how often they use idiom and language from our society. Lucas knew not to use phrases we recognize in order to keep a galaxy far, far away... far, far away. "The Woke-alyte" does this way more than any other offering from the Rat, and it's really jarring. Thanks, Lezzye! 😬
Sol being the bad guy is Akin to Rian Johnson telling us Admiral Holdo is a Hero. The owners of Star Wars have leaned into RJs vision, hardcore.
They are LOST!
That's been disney star wars since episode 9, justifying TLJ.
It's funny seeing how the predictions of the crew turn out. It's funny when they're right, but also funny when they're wrong because usually it is because they were too charitable and assumed a chain of logic.
2:31:40
Damn, I've never considered maximizing my defenses, I always thought I'll just keep that dial turned down somewhat. Golly am I glad to receive a Jedi's lessons in swordplay.
Mauler's voice is so soothing to listen to. I wish he would read me a bedtime story or gently rock me to sleep while singing me a lullaby.
I'm still upset at Basil's betrayal, he was the Babu Frik of The Acolyte. How could he do that?
Well he's obviously the Force Diad TM Babu Frik dark side equivalent.
This season literally ends with "Fuck you Dad I do what I want."
It's written so poorly because Headlund wanted to force an outcome. This is a story written by a Sith about the Jedi.
Even then they fail. The kid flips out and rushes in because he was mind graped they get into an armed conflict because of horn mom Sol kills the boss witch because she offered no explanation before turning into a nazghul then the others all cast a hostile spell that will kill them if broken and that the enemy has the obvious powers and obvious need to break. At every possible phase the jedi were forced into action, their only sin was failing to accurately report the incident.
Nah, a Sith would write something better. This is just a former predator's partner in crime lez filled agenda fantasies within the framework of a predator filled company that wants to takeover young people's heads with this sort of thing;
The sith are more competent then shown in this. At least Palpatine was.
if MauLer played sports, he'd be a BauLer
if MauLer wore platform shoes, he'd be TauLer
if you want to grab him, you just take him by the CauLer
Funny how none of the jedi know what PIP is. Yord thinks she's reaching for a weapon in episode 1. And in episode 2 Sol asks what pip is (while murder suspect is syncing it to their ship) and yet in the last episodes Mae finds a PILE of the pip lower units INSIDE THE JEDIS SHIP!....
You really expected logical consistency when they can't even track what the actions and motivations of their characters are?
I still don't even know why PIP is a fucking droid.
It cannot walk, it cannot operate machinery on its own, it cannot active tech at a distance, it needs to be charged, it's for some reason filled with some kind of oil like substance, its main use is a fucking flashlight.
Why is it a droid!? That's SO much extra technology to shove into such a SMALL object for NO advantage! And if it's so fucking useful, WHY DOESN'T ANYONE ELSE HAVE ONE!?
There were TONS of R2 units and Protocol droids. R2 and C3PO were NOT unique droids, fuck's sake, even the sequels put like ONE other BB8 droid in the movies, but this stone faced bitch has the ONLY pip droid in the galaxy.
"The Jedi will put you in prison!"
If you'd only murdered one Jedi they'd have let yo go with a warning, but two is a mandatory 30 day sentence!
Ryans absolutely right at 3:02:01 it wasn't just Disney, it all started with Filoni fucking with all aspects, inputting his own self insert characters, as well as pissing over the mystique of the force. Sad part is Lucas fucked up by letting too much slide with the clone wars because he was so blinded by his greed for merchandising. Ultimately he forgot what sold so much merchandise, it was because of good story telling and all that effort to make a truly unique universe.
Not to mention that he was busy with Star Wars Underground at the time too.
5:38:50 probably the ONLY defence I can Muster for this show in this scene (not that anybody cares) is it seems like Sol is trying to recuple/dock with the smaller ship. There is no reason to get spitting distance close with a target to fire on it, (which would only make you crash into an exploding ship) and when he flicks the switch on the console you can hear a 'clacking" sound, which may indicate the coupling clamps engaging.
It is just for whatever reason the scene is shot as though trying to make the audience (or Beaver boy) think he is trying to kill her.. Just fake suspense and an excuse for Mae to escape.
^.-.^ There, daily Devil's advocation quota met.
I just thought he was trying to ram her. No idea why, nor what he actually wanted to do, but I was cheering him on regardless.
"The power of ONE, the power of TWO, the power of.... MaAAaaNNnnNNNYYyyyYYY..."
"I was able to sense that creature."
Yeah, so was I. With nothing but eyes and no Force.
Asshoka felt like the characters where constantly waiting for commercial break to end
You cannot deny that the Jedi have the right to test potential padiwans... unless you deny it.
Weren't yellow/orange lightsabers supposed to be very rare and special? And didn't the blue and green ones both have their own affinities, and since those two were more common paths to tread, you would see those more?
I mean, it's not like I spent half my life immersed in Star Wars lore when it still existed, or anything. But uhm, yeah. Duck Fisney.
Who here rewatching this after the news of the cancelation, huge W. But now they have no way to explain why yoda/mundi didn't know about sith or what was the way to "take out one without an weapon" - despite how he clearly took out all those jedis with an weapon -
I started watching this EFAP compilation, and realised, I don't give a shit about the Acolyte SO MUCH, that I won't even "watch" it through our lads reacting. What a waste of 200 millions dollars, OMEGALOL.
I don’t know which is more hilarious..
This sheet metric ton of what the crew _PERFECTLY_ predicted…
Or the specific things they got wrong. I.e. “there’s no way this will end up the worst Disney Star Wars yet…”
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Hail to the fellow Long EFappers, and may the mighty Mog be with us all 😤
For the kind of budgets these shows have, they should be able to hire the best writers in the world. And yet time and time again, we get sub fanfic tier writing, and I wish that was an exaggeration. Forget good writing, at this point I dont even expect them to get the basics down like character motivation and time. It's hard to wrap my head around.
Hey that's unfair to fanfics, there are some amazing fanfictions.
"The Power of One ...
The Power of Two ...
The Power of ... TIS-WSISTED MY TIPPLES!!!"
The power of Mel Gibson?
Rewatching Andor currently. Written by adults, for adults; a lived-in world, populated by believable characters. The contrast is painful.
Where’s the time stamp guy when you need him.
I’m not sure I can survive this a second time. The last episode made me physically ill
Just a small point, They've referred to the Jedi as "monks" in this show several times, and I've never heard them called that anywhere else, ever.
Does that saber lesson remind anybody else of Gahlladrel's bullshit instructions in Rings of Power? Keep it tight yet subtle, but also simple and strong.
From my understanding, based upon the old Obi-wan Kenobi novels where he first became Qui-gon’s padawan, and a couple other books, the Jedi were willingly called by the parents/communities/planets where force sensitive children were suspected (although there wasn’t any law about it as far as I’m aware). Some basic tests would be done there, depending on how old the child was, and then options given. We can take and train your child (standard padawan story, limit familial connections as young as possible), or not. It was the parent’s choice, and if the answer was no they’d be given advice on how to deal with/raise the kid going forward since there was a decent chance they’d be special, but odds are without training they’d just be hyper talented (like Anakin being an amazing pilot).
Sure as hell was nothing like they showed in this poor excuse of a show.
Edit for spelling.
Which goes to show how small in scale Star Wars is as a whole when a galaxy of hundreds of trillions only produces 10,000 Jedi at their peak with almost noone outside of it.
Ryan's great, hope you have him on more often
Amandla Stenblerg is the greatest actor of our generation.
She clearly learned from the masters of the craft most notably Tommy Wiseau and Neil Breen
@@italyspit5192 Please dont insult Neil and Tommy like that.
2:10:09 oh you sweet summer children... You thought the foreshadowing was going to be anything good.
The power of one, the power of two, the power of EEEFAAAAAP!
I could swear there was a thing called a training saber, which was just a real light saber, but only powerful enough to shock. Like a hand buzzer lightsaber.
Is it just me or does Amandla seem like she’s trying to make her voice sound more deep than it really is? She’s a remarkably terrible actress esp considering this entire mess was created FOR her specifically ..
Yeah, even with how terrible the script was, Amandalanda is an embarrassingly bad actress who should find another job.
@@SolarDragon007 she should get involved with Greta thunberg. They seem like they’d be the collab the world needs
It really baffles me that the people who worked on this show think the Jedi are the bad guys. The only thing I can think that might have been bad was trespassing. Anyway, this show is incredibly bad
And that was because they thought the girls were in danger.
I distinctly remember there being a whole bit in the prequels about basic lightsaber safety, control, and attention to where it is being like this very fundamental part of Jedi training. But I guess we don't need that for Pissney lightbats.
Looks pretty good guys, thank you for another show recommendation.
There's nothing theoretically wrong with saying "To be a proper bad dude, you need to choke a bitch with the force". That is very dark side. And, canonically, force choking someone to death is genuinely very hard to do. The force doesn't like to kill things, you have to be strong and driven by the dark to do it. So there is the germ of a good idea somewhere. And it would be very Sith to say that sure, you can be good with a lightsabre, but the force is your real weapon. That ties to stuff like Palpatine in the OT not even having a light sabre because he was so into the force lightning. If we tell this story we can actually preserve that Vader and Palpatine are scary and powerful, because we can show our acolytes actually struggling to do it, and maybe having to lightsabre someone who broke free and getting mad about it.
Just... You can make a good story about "An acolyte does not need a lightsabre". So why the hell do we have all of this nonsense which has NOTHING to do with that? The whole series is only eight episodes long! Were they that desperate to fill time?
I've been calling Filoni a hack for ages.
Based and true.
In Legends novel Dark Lord: Rise of Darth Vader, a jedi was discovered by the Order as a boy but his father called the jedi while the mother didn't want to give him up. As he trained he refused to partake in the Order's branch that was responsible for finding new apprentices. He was reunited with his mother while the Jedi Purge was underway.
I feel like EFAP and Star Wars Theory are the only channels now where I can actually have a conversation about Star Wars that’s focused on its problems rather than trying to make it a political thing. I’m so tired of either extreme of the dialogue, I’m not a bigot for thinking Acolyte is bad and I’m not a clapping seal Disney shill for thinking Andor was good. Like can we all just talk about why this shit doesn’t work and give credit when it does without throwing all these stupid labels? You guys are a refreshing change, as a normie I appreciate y’all for keeping your criticisms focused and exposing the absolutely valid problems with Disney Star Wars. I still watch the Not So Great Debate sometimes just to remind myself I’m not crazy for disliking the direction this stuff is going. That being said if Andor Season 2 is anything like the Acolyte, I can’t give anymore chances cause this was BAAAAAD 😢
Went from the first season to the _ONLY_ season.
Rags talking about how you mine Phrick got me thinking about something. In one of the EU books from before Disney Han finds the facility where the scientists who designed the Death Star are located and are still working on future weapons. Example the suncusher which fires a special torpedoes that ensure any sun regardless of size goes super nova. When asking head scientist why they agreed to design the Death Star super laser. She responded. It's for mining. Instead of slowly mining asteroids we can use this to destroy huge asteroids and make obtaining the resources within easier. She wasn't lying either she was just that naive. Reason I bring this up is because she also suffers from a mind wipe where a young and slightly unhinged jedi student at Luke's new academy who is starting to succumb to the dark side tracks her down but decides not to kill her instead uses the force to rob her of any memory or knowledge involved with building the superweapons she helped the empire build. So yeah memory wipes were also a thing in the EU. Not saying it was good writing there either but just love how much they said. "We have nothing to draw upon for our Star Wars stories" hard cuts to them picking and choosing stuff from the de-canonized books.
"I cant tell them apart, they all look the same" - Lesbo Headlamp
🎶The Power of Cringe!🎶
Reacting to the complete first and only season of The Acolyte
The guy who plays smilo does a better job playing two different people than Amandla does at playing one.
I was going to comment on how uninteresting the protagonist(/s if we count that the twins are meant to be different) and how almost all the other characters outshine them (not exactly a tall order) but i realised it's not really a standout thing anymore, outside of this time around it's basically getting the same character twice. I was hoping i could find the moment it's mentioned here but ah well.
It's totally an unfair comparison in many ways but i find it funny that a character who's 'robbed' of their role in the story, kinda making them more of a support character, is still far more interesting than a pair of 'supposedly different' characters that have active roles in the story, including all the twists and turns. To be fair, the comparison character i mentioned still does things that add to or reflect her character even without her 'true' role and we all know having actual characters is beyond these modern writers.
The lads were a bit mystified by all the interest in The Acolyte from us and for me at least I guess I just still care about Star Wars. I don’t remember a time before having watched the OT and the prequels weren’t far behind. It absorbed my childhood imagination entirely and I find new ways to connect to the first six films even now. It’s such a cool world and miraculously still unique, and only two films ever have applied it to its maximum potential. At least while we watch these toilet paper TV shows we can learn more about what we like from the old stories.
So sad that this is the state of Star Wars.
They don't even know that lightsabers are not supposed to be regular fucking "LaZoR."
I can't believe Indara killed the whole fortress of 49 women and a RUclipsr.
"I'm gonna go play Elden Ring DLC" remember who's sitting next to you Rags.
EFAP is the only reason i even know about this show. So fk you guys.😂
There is actually some totally justified reasons this whole show is the way it is and why it's actually secretly genius. The whole reason is...oh shit, somethings come up, brb
So cortosis was a thing in the EU before the Disney buyout. As for why not everyone uses it if I recall unlike besker which is super durable and just is able to resist lightsabers cortosis simply shorts out the saber before it has a chance to cut through it. As such while it's good against lightsabers I believe it's not as effective to stopping blaster fire. Also as mentioned it's rare and it's mining was heavily regulated especially back during the jedi sith wars.