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I think its a good list but by the amount of premiums you can pretty much a seperate list for T7,8,9 and 10, heck heck you can nearly do it for each class. but i think this list shows the best premiums you can get by their power. For income T-10 premiums lack the income Multiplier so realy the T8 and T9 are the ones you make real mony with few very good T-7 like the Scharnhorst, but if the Odin gets released you have a T-8 Scharnhorst more or lessbut that ship is still a WIP lets see.
Well i would just exclude any Tier 10 ship as they are not really premiums. They just have the premium camo, but not the premium multiplier for credits. Your list is good, but it's not top 10 premium ships. I could argue that Kremlin with premium camo is stronger than Thunderer and Ohio and thus should be on this list with the same credit potential as all the other T10 ships.
380mm armed French BBs are easy to handle with other Battleships. Just smash the turrets. They're so wide that you can't help but hit the turrets. Even better, the ones with turret arrangements like Richelieu, Alsace, Bourgogne, Jean Bart, they got that 2nd forward turret that sits on a very high barbette. Against such BBs, I basically aim right between the top of the first turret and the bottom of the second one. You'll get nothing but hits to either or both turrets, or nail the 2nd turret's barbette. Easy, easy.
@@ainzooalgown7589 Obviously it needs a reload booster, a superheal, and a radar. It also should be renamed to "Balans" after all of those being added. :D
Admiral Kuznestov for coal 2020. You get jet powered aircraft and cruise missiles but you have a permanent fire that makes you detectable through out the whole map.
is it just me, or is the oldest ship there the Massachusetts? I mean there are ships on that list that are obviously strong, but almost all of them seem fairly recent, makes the powercreep stand out a lot more to me
Yes; looks like Stalingrad, Alaska & Massachussetts are oldest. This probably has a lot to do with the fact that T10 premium ships are all very new, and in a tier 10 match being a T10 ship is simply better most of the time (Georgia being the exception; she's ranked better than T10 Ohio)
He's been doing these videos for a few years now. None of the ships ever carry over year to year. That says a lot about the state of things. Smolensk will be an afterthought soon enough as something even more broken gets released.
Thats just because the people you see on youtube are good players so they get into good positions where they can crossfire enemy players and therefore get their broadside.
@@pioneer_1148 In addition to what Adam said, it would also be un-fun and unconvincing to watch the video if Flamu shows shit moments all the time Thats not how u do entertainment unless u are making a fail compilation vid
Something I see a lot of people miss, including in this video, is that Georgia _doesn't_ get a standard french BB speed boost. Most french BBs get an 8% speed boost, but Georgia gets Bougogne's super 15% speed boost and as such is far and away the fastest BB in the game. Georgia has a top speed of 39.4 knots and Bougogne has a top speed of 38.4 knots. For reference, the next fastest battleship in the game (Gascogne) has a top speed of 36.14 knots
They dont need it... Flamu did a GK vs Kremlin fight and the Kremlins lost... After that the Yamato's took on montanas and Won, Yama VS GK with the result deutschland uber alles... German BB Line if played half decently can take on most popular bb's currently in game unfortunately we didnt see a french and RN fight, but the french traditionally lose those so no worries.
i'm playing since july of 2019, and i dare to say that i only got Georgia as my first coal ship because of a video of yours... is a really strong ship and i love it, also i got Alaska by free xp in november, and Thunderer on 29 of december. 3 really strong ships, still didn't play Thunderer on randons, but Georgia and Alaska are 2 ships that are really easy to influence on the battle and turn loss into win. Thank you for your good content Flamu, love your toxity and videos.
12:18 - Wow, what a dope hail mary shot on that DM with 12+ second shell travel time at over 22km away, some very nice aiming skills there for sure. Those types of shots are so satisfying, it reminds me of a 1 shot snipe I recently pulled off in my Yamato against a full speed Atago at over 17+km away.
Cool thing about the Smolensk is that even if you don't fire a single shot the entire game you are still helping your team mates. Because the enemy team get's the "Bunny-in-the-headlights-syndrome" They just go straight line for the Smolensk and ignore everything else.
Thanks for this. I bought the Thunderer after swithering between it and Smolensk for a few days. Its enormously good fun. Got a 285k, 4 kill game (we lost because pubs eh) first time out. The accuracy and penetrating power make it amazingly good at punishing broadsides, something WoWS has lost a bit in the new hidden-citadel meta.
Haven't watched the vid yet, here are the premiums I'm expecting to see : - Missouri -Belfast -Kutuzov -Fujin/Kamikaze/Kamikaze R -Georgia -Giulio Cesare -Nikolaï I Let's see if these are included. Edit : alright it's been 20 seconds and half my list is gone. Fml
Had to choose between the Thunderer and the Smolensk when I got my coupon, trying to decide which would stay longest before being pulled went for the Smolensk and then took a shower :)
I have both, I have more fun playing the thunder, as an average potato player, actually have better games too, the Smolensk is not that easy to play imho, Position is everything with this ship or you get deleted very quickly. Don't under estimate the desire of the whole red team to send you to the bottom! Unless you're still alive in late games it is limited to distance HE spamming and that actually gets boring real fast...
@@danielmillaire6412 as a DD main, that is precisely what I love about the Smolensk. Especially in ranked, everybody knows how dangerous a Smolensk is, so once you're detected you have a red cross pinned to your head.
I recently try to avoid playing my few tier x that I own just cause almost every match there's 2 or more smolensk in the enemy team. If not then harugumo or Worcester or Colbert. As a casual player that stopped for a while i am nowhere close to my first coal ship to join this hilarious smothunder party. Yamato and GK just get burned to death. My shima gets radared from every corner. The only thing that is kinda doing okay-ish is my hindenburg. But I think she's just not part of the top meta anymore. So I stay with tier 8 and lower for most of the time being. :/
@@placeholderGER Try avoiding cv by turning off AA and stick to friendly AA to shoo planes away, it is pretty effective against the initial rocket planes. No need to rush to the cap if theres threat, and the team blames u if u die doing so, just wait for planes to go to the other side or cv to switch planes before going in Never get blapped by the initial rocket planes in dd doing just that
Thank you for another amazing video. Over the past few years, I have learned a lot from watching your how to guides, reviews etc. I love how you can analyze every ship, shining a light on strengths and weaknesses. I’m not very good player, you would probably call me a “potato” 🤪 but your videos made me much better. Sometimes, I get to be a top player in a match. I have a Smolensk, but it’s difficult ship for me, with my style of play. Just got Thunderer for sure, super fun. I enjoyed my Moskva probably the most. Alaska can be fun after I play Montana! I actually like Gorizia a lot, it’s a dd killer...love shell velocity on that one, SAP is not bad. Finally got PR yesterday...had to pay a little to get that, but u get steel and coal as well. That enabled me to get Thunderer with coupon. So I’m not complaining! I always wanted to get Stalingrad, most likely by the time I get enough steel, ship will no longer be available. Cheers! Happy New Year!
Now thats the Flamu I love. A little snide, a little, cocky, and always ready to make folks regret saying something stupid. Keep up the good work hoss.
Thank you for this vid. It was very informative! I'm getting the Thunderer soon and I am super excited for it! It might be a bit too much to ask, but could you do a similar video, bu with premium ships from tier 5 to 7? I would love to hear your opinions on those as well.
The only ship I miss from this list is the Jean Bart, a very fun and good ship to have, and one of the best option to make money, for me I like it more than the Georgia.
Have to agree, should be on the list. It has a weakness that is off set by it's speed and ability to flank. Not really a nose in tank the front line ship. More of a surprise from the side type
He said it's not here because of the easy to destroy guns... But JB is my favorite ship in the game... Awesome ship just makes me want to play this game again... I left because of T8 matchmaking bullshitery
@@kr4ftt yeah I heard why and I responded with its a weakness that can be avoided by going to flanks and catching broadsides. You dont need to go to the middle and tank every direction. you need the first volley from the side and should be good from there. half the ships on this list have weaksides yet that doesnt get them off it.
I did not expect the Bayard to be in your list :) And I'm glad I prefered Bourgogne over Stalingrad. Judging by your ranking I think I will go for Thunderer instead of Georgia :)
Great video, I would agree with you for most of your list of ships and Hell yeah the Smolensk rocks! that and the Mass and Scharnhorst (that one is a beast) are have most fun boats to play
The good german premium right now is the Scharnhorst and T-61, tirpitz and Prinz Eugen can be situational powerful, also, keep an eye on the Odin, from the testing she is very promising if they dont change it to worse
OKhotnik should have been an honourable mention for how fun it is to play and how affordable it is. *Smolensk* : you should have mentioned the proposed IFHE / cruiser plating changes that if implemented will double nerf this ship
Happy New Year to you and the GF, Flamu. Looking forward to more of your quality content in 2020. I will probably never get enough of your concealed (but well-deserved) potato insults.
Great video mate! Thanks for the advice on the prems . BTW, what sight are you using in-game? Are you able to share your mod preferences, if you are in fact using any.
I am surprised Colbert didn't make it to this list. Sure Smolensk is arguably better and easier to play overall but Colbert is also a very nasty ship to deal with.
I think he didnt mention the colbert yet is because he does not have it yet, never seen him playing it after the official launch in the research bearue
@@Markus-zb5zd oh then i must have missed watching it, because i only seen him playing it when it was work in progress state, didnt know after official launch in RB
Pretty good list. I do notice that this consists of only high tier ships. Good evaluation of coal and steel ships along with a few tier 8/9 free xp/doub/prem shop ships
Smolensk: not only can BB blab them but cruisers as well. BB should shoot HE and still citadel the ship. Shells have terrible arc beyond 15km but initial velocity does not allow the ship to shoot over islands. Ship can mainly do damage by fire which is a damage over time. Alpha damage is meh despite the number of shells, especially if the superstructure of a BB is already saturated.
I recently got enough coal for any of the coal premiums, i chose the jean bart, not because it is the most powerful, not because i enjoy the playstyle, but because it was build.
I just got the Smolenks, saving up coal for the Thunderer. I actually wanted to get the Thunderer first, however I had a strange feeling that it will be removed from the armory soon, so decided to secure it before it goes.
Nice list! But i would like to note that at 5:30 you say that Bayard has 30mm Deck and upperbelt armour, while it is actually 27mm meaning that you can bounch 380mm shells but not 406mm.
Its a bit galling that steel & steel ships are not realistically available for those who don't play clan or ranked, but who might otherwise be good/dedicated pvp players. WG's policy of making "reward" tanks/ships somewhat OP (rather than just "different" or unique, for example) just exacerbates the problem of "elitism" that plagues multiplayer games. Paywalls, clanwalls, grindwalls tend to drive away the mass player base needed to keep a game healthy.
I agree with Flamu he knows what he is talking about. I recently got graf zep, sims, and alaska b versions on black friday containers. for xmas so far i got exeter,murmanks,prince eugen,leningrad, and used told to buy tirpitz. next ships i buy will be from this list.
Your list is actually good imo. Even though I don't have most of the ships listed, it seems correct as I faced most of them already at some point. The Smolensk is something they should either nerf or just remove from the game as it brings more HE spam than anything else, which isn't adding to the fun...
I'm a less than average player and just love the open water Smolensk. Sure, a good player will make your match short but it is so much fun as a kiter than an island hugger.
I have to say most ships and the best ships listed are available for free grind (which is nice). You can grind coal, steel or free xp, but all of that is actually free (free to play players have to grind A LOT more for sure, but they can eventually get all of them). I would add Asashio on the list.
If you feel like it, do it - because Smol might get double-nerf if/once the proposed IFHE/cruiser plating changes make it into the game. I got the Smol but only because I wanted an open water smoke dakka bote
I got the Smolensk I case WG pulled it off the shelves quickly because of how OP it is. I don’t like playing it because I feel dirty and I don’t want to had to the Smolensk cancer out there. I think I would have enjoyed the Thunderer more and not feel nearly as bad playing it. Working on getting both so I don’t have to choose.
I love your top 10 list and I put a lot of value to it, as you are one of the players that will top MY TOP 10 best WoW players...... (for the month of January 2020)
My 2 cents. "Massie": A brawler. What's not to like? Alaska. Not a favorite. A bit too clumsy for me. Bayard: A bit squishy but the dakka-dakka makes up for it. Fun. Ohio: Don't have her. I don't regrind. Ever. Georgia: Fast. Hits hard. Good 2ndarys. Me likes. Somers: Don't have her. Stalingrad: Don't have her. Bourgogne: Don't have her. But I do like the Alsace. Thunderer: Not bad. Not the best but still good. Smolensk: Fun. King of dakka-dakka but can't tank for shit. Get hit and die. (Trick is to not get hit.) I just want to point out two things about this list. 1: All the ships are tier 8-10. 2: 4/10 are RB or steel. Theese two facts combined means that hightiers are a playground for the hardcore players and the rest doesn't need to bother. Sad.
I just bought Stalingrad with coupon, and i still have enough steel for Flint. I am thinking of getting Flint or Bourgogne. Like both Atlanta and Alsace. Should i wait for the coupon to get Bourgogne or should i just get Flint now?
Id love a top 3 ships per class per tier of all of them. like T5 DD might be like Kamekaze and 2 others or something - T5 BB might be a Gulio Cesare and 2 other ones - Id like to hear some t4 for fun too
Nice Video, Nice list, I hope you plan on doing one for Tech Tree ships too, can't imagine whos gonna be number one on tht list... "muffled Hardbass in the background" Comrade Balans is on the way...
Can’t even play tier X and have fun anymore because of the kinds of ships that exist there. I’m honestly willing to buy back a tier VII ship so I can enjoy the game again
those (premium) you mentioned they are elite ships they don't provide money specially tier 10s please keep premium for only ships that can give you credit and the income you expected from it to buy it because most of your ships won't benefit me in terms of credit as tier 8&9 premiums
Out of the list, I have U.S.S. Massachusetts and U.S.S. Georgia and I enjoy playing both, generally with a secondary build. I am considering Alaska and Bayard. Ohio and Somers both look like fun ships.
ohhh Odin... the only thing that might get me to open up my wallet again. But she sort of makes me feel like I wasted money way back when I got the Scharnhorst
Smolensk is like teemo, whatever happens focus it first, dont know if you should shoot a carrier or smolensk, shoot smolensk, dont know if you should cap or shoot smolensk, shoot smolensk, you're girlfriend wants to leave you because youre screaming in the middle of the night, shoot a smolensk :)
Benham isnt available anywhere.Its not that he didnt mention it because he doesnt like it.Its not on sale.Or he'd have on the list Missouri as well for the same reason
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Hey add a little note around #3 🍔. To remind Flamu that he messed up.
When i play my smolensk i load ofter AP because it is so painfull for all other ships when u catch them og guard
You are Flamu.
I think its a good list but by the amount of premiums you can pretty much a seperate list for T7,8,9 and 10, heck heck you can nearly do it for each class. but i think this list shows the best premiums you can get by their power.
For income T-10 premiums lack the income Multiplier so realy the T8 and T9 are the ones you make real mony with few very good T-7 like the Scharnhorst, but if the Odin gets released you have a T-8 Scharnhorst more or lessbut that ship is still a WIP lets see.
Well i would just exclude any Tier 10 ship as they are not really premiums. They just have the premium camo, but not the premium multiplier for credits. Your list is good, but it's not top 10 premium ships. I could argue that Kremlin with premium camo is stronger than Thunderer and Ohio and thus should be on this list with the same credit potential as all the other T10 ships.
Smolensk isnt for having fun, its for making sure no-one else does
It's not the ship we need but the ship this community deserves.
Sounds like you are talking about cvs, I had to triplecheck your sentence starts with "smolensk" :D
Spreadsheet says those playing against the Smolensk are having fun, and that is good enuf comrade!
"Because when everyone is special...no one is"
CORV3TT33 I had my best game in my Mass B vs 2 Smolensk showing me broadside in smoke.
That poor Jean Bart trying to hit the smolensk with one turret was depressing as hell to watch..
Like a nightmare...
Don't worry, though. Comrade Spreadsheet says that the Jean Bart had fun, and we all know Comrade Spreadsheet knows best for the game.
@@madmoff
Nani!
380mm armed French BBs are easy to handle with other Battleships. Just smash the turrets. They're so wide that you can't help but hit the turrets. Even better, the ones with turret arrangements like Richelieu, Alsace, Bourgogne, Jean Bart, they got that 2nd forward turret that sits on a very high barbette. Against such BBs, I basically aim right between the top of the first turret and the bottom of the second one. You'll get nothing but hits to either or both turrets, or nail the 2nd turret's barbette.
Easy, easy.
07 commander
“The Bon Jovi, I mean The Burger, I mean...”
lol just call it Burgundy goddammit!
"the really grapey region of rural France"
@@mutantmacrophage6653 well that can be any rural region in France lol
aww crap jingles is spreading
Royal with cheese =))
According to spreadsheets Smolensk fun to play against comrade. Spreadsheets show Smolensk very balance comrade.
It's so balanced...
So balanced that every time I sink someone with it they instantly report me 🤣
Smolensk the -1 karma ship 😂😂
I think Smolensk needs reload booster, to make it more balanced (INSERT SARCASM)
@@ainzooalgown7589 And a 12km 60sec radar 🤣
@@ainzooalgown7589 Obviously it needs a reload booster, a superheal, and a radar. It also should be renamed to "Balans" after all of those being added. :D
*balans
1 Smolensk X
2 Thunderer X
3 Bourgogne X
4 Stalingrad X
5 Somers X
6 Georgia IX
7 Ohio X
8 Bayard VIII
9 Alaska IX
10 Massachusetts VIII
Admiral Kuznestov for coal 2020.
You get jet powered aircraft and cruise missiles but you have a permanent fire that makes you detectable through out the whole map.
That's gold 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
If you had enough cruise missiles I'm guessing you could blow up the entire team before burning to death
Also comes with a Tug Boat module
7:56 "Well done commander" xd
I must say that I'm surprised that still in T7/8/9 and 10 players still finds it good idea to send torps towards friendly ship.
@@TerjeL No comrade Terje.We must praise that Ibuki for sending torpedos to sink capitalist ships.
When you surprise your enemies as well as your teammates
I had the coal to buy a Smolensk. I couldn't do it. I bought a Georgia instead and felt better about myself.
I got Smolensk... But then again. I got sipan when it first came out too.
I'm saving my coal for either Yoshino or Salem. I'm not touching Smolensk with a 10 foot pole.
And then got burned down to the waterline by a Smolensk.
You can hear a part of Flamu die when he gives Smolensk the number one spot.
is it just me, or is the oldest ship there the Massachusetts? I mean there are ships on that list that are obviously strong, but almost all of them seem fairly recent, makes the powercreep stand out a lot more to me
stalingrad is pretty old too but can't remember if it came before Massa
@@bibimemyi4838 it cam around summer 2018. It has almost 2 years in the game. I remember because it took me 6 months to grind her :D
Yes; looks like Stalingrad, Alaska & Massachussetts are oldest. This probably has a lot to do with the fact that T10 premium ships are all very new, and in a tier 10 match being a T10 ship is simply better most of the time (Georgia being the exception; she's ranked better than T10 Ohio)
Oldest featured is probably Bayard.
He's been doing these videos for a few years now. None of the ships ever carry over year to year. That says a lot about the state of things. Smolensk will be an afterthought soon enough as something even more broken gets released.
Basically everyone in these matches: hello RUclips this is my broadside pls kill me
Thats just because the people you see on youtube are good players so they get into good positions where they can crossfire enemy players and therefore get their broadside.
this is also a highlight reel, and a lot of people in this game are stupid af
@@pioneer_1148 In addition to what Adam said, it would also be un-fun and unconvincing to watch the video if Flamu shows shit moments all the time
Thats not how u do entertainment unless u are making a fail compilation vid
Something I see a lot of people miss, including in this video, is that Georgia _doesn't_ get a standard french BB speed boost. Most french BBs get an 8% speed boost, but Georgia gets Bougogne's super 15% speed boost and as such is far and away the fastest BB in the game.
Georgia has a top speed of 39.4 knots and Bougogne has a top speed of 38.4 knots. For reference, the next fastest battleship in the game (Gascogne) has a top speed of 36.14 knots
When every ship is either American, French or Soviet
Wargaming: *B A L A N S*
( R.I.P German premiums )
They dont need it... Flamu did a GK vs Kremlin fight and the Kremlins lost... After that the Yamato's took on montanas and Won, Yama VS GK with the result deutschland uber alles... German BB Line if played half decently can take on most popular bb's currently in game unfortunately we didnt see a french and RN fight, but the french traditionally lose those so no worries.
@@darkhowling6425 So your saying a bot match with just 1 ship x10 per side is representative of player matches with varying ships and ship classes...
@@darkhowling6425 There is a Rèpublique vs. Conqueror match to be seen on Twitch, and iirc RN did indeed crush the Baguettes.
@@Ungeboren1988 No bot match, players only. You can watch the replay on Flamu's Twitch channel.
@@darkhowling6425 Because everyone in one match just suddenly goes Kremlin and Großer Kurfürst. Very representative of actual matches.
9 ships that are not smolensk on this list. That is too much.
Ruud did you expect him to say smolensk 10 times lol
WG is working to adress this issue. Prepare your wallets and kiss fun goodbye
@@Gulaschiltis Lol
"basically Belfast" I know the tone of voice was changed to reflect another thought but that summed it up itself pretty good XD
i'm playing since july of 2019, and i dare to say that i only got Georgia as my first coal ship because of a video of yours... is a really strong ship and i love it, also i got Alaska by free xp in november, and Thunderer on 29 of december.
3 really strong ships, still didn't play Thunderer on randons, but Georgia and Alaska are 2 ships that are really easy to influence on the battle and turn loss into win.
Thank you for your good content Flamu, love your toxity and videos.
7:58 * Sees Ibuki launching torps into self *
Well done Ibuki!
Well done Ibuki!
Well done Ibuki!
Happy 2020, Flamu!
An I think “Somers” is just said like “Summers”.
Binks Webelf And also ‘suite’ is pronounced the same as ‘sweet’, not ‘suit’. :D
Somers the BB slayer
It's pronounced "Soomers", basically how it's written
12:18 - Wow, what a dope hail mary shot on that DM with 12+ second shell travel time at over 22km away, some very nice aiming skills there for sure. Those types of shots are so satisfying, it reminds me of a 1 shot snipe I recently pulled off in my Yamato against a full speed Atago at over 17+km away.
it's OK to lose game, but smlsk MUST be DEAD !
"yes, let the hate flow through you" - every Smolensk player, ever
It doesn't matter how many volleys you waste on smolensk, this thing must die of principle.
@@TheExecutorr I just deleted a smolensk with 4ap shells on my PR, SO MUCH FUN!
Ah, you're one of the whales that made WG think this event is fine as it is (and was...) thanks for that /s
Yes agreed, when a DD is spotted along with a Smolensk, my DM guns are going right for the Smolensk. Deal with the DD later.
Cool thing about the Smolensk is that even if you don't fire a single shot the entire game you are still helping your team mates. Because the enemy team get's the "Bunny-in-the-headlights-syndrome" They just go straight line for the Smolensk and ignore everything else.
"Suite" is pronounced like "sweet". Makes no sense, but English gonna English.
That one is French, don't blame us.
And it is pronounced "soo-eat" Would try to use actual characters but I doubt youtube comments won't allow it.
The word queue is one letter followed by 4 silent vowels
@@109268 don't blame the French either...
@@VuHien2011 We blame the Normans then!
Thanks for this. I bought the Thunderer after swithering between it and Smolensk for a few days. Its enormously good fun. Got a 285k, 4 kill game (we lost because pubs eh) first time out. The accuracy and penetrating power make it amazingly good at punishing broadsides, something WoWS has lost a bit in the new hidden-citadel meta.
Puerto Rico? JK i'll show myself the door.
Pay to Rico :))
@@GravityTrash. pay to Rico = P"t"R
I believe you misspelled ‘the dumpster fire of all WoWS dumpster fires’
PR, public relations, payment rape, player rage, premium regret, profit reduction, passable reward, poor release, playing red-dead.
Haven't watched the vid yet, here are the premiums I'm expecting to see :
- Missouri
-Belfast
-Kutuzov
-Fujin/Kamikaze/Kamikaze R
-Georgia
-Giulio Cesare
-Nikolaï I
Let's see if these are included.
Edit : alright it's been 20 seconds and half my list is gone. Fml
Reading your list as he states they're not included and then reaching your edit was genuinely amusing lol
Half your list? All but one is more accurate. :p
Kutuzov isn't even close to top 10, Belfast is only good to murder T5 dds that have no idea what radar is, otherwise Fiji is much better.
The heck is this list, 2016 list? Only one ship you mentioned was released nearing the end of 2019 lmao ofc its gonna be very inaccurate
I am impressed that you could make a list in 2016 for a video in 2020.
I would've loved to see the result of the Smolensk battle. But anyway, thanks for the ratings.
Had to choose between the Thunderer and the Smolensk when I got my coupon, trying to decide which would stay longest before being pulled went for the Smolensk and then took a shower :)
Smolensk may get double nerfed from possible IFHE / cruiser plating changes; save up more coal for Thunderer (or grind the Kremlin)
@@mutantmacrophage6653 Doing both :)
I have both, I have more fun playing the thunder, as an average potato player, actually have better games too, the Smolensk is not that easy to play imho, Position is everything with this ship or you get deleted very quickly. Don't under estimate the desire of the whole red team to send you to the bottom! Unless you're still alive in late games it is limited to distance HE spamming and that actually gets boring real fast...
I got both of them... Gave up on the shower and embraced the dark side!
@@danielmillaire6412 as a DD main, that is precisely what I love about the Smolensk. Especially in ranked, everybody knows how dangerous a Smolensk is, so once you're detected you have a red cross pinned to your head.
I recently try to avoid playing my few tier x that I own just cause almost every match there's 2 or more smolensk in the enemy team. If not then harugumo or Worcester or Colbert. As a casual player that stopped for a while i am nowhere close to my first coal ship to join this hilarious smothunder party.
Yamato and GK just get burned to death.
My shima gets radared from every corner.
The only thing that is kinda doing okay-ish is my hindenburg. But I think she's just not part of the top meta anymore.
So I stay with tier 8 and lower for most of the time being. :/
boom. You get MM+2 so stay with tier 7.
You forgot Carriers at Tier X, its always fun getting blapped by an Audacious in the first 40 Seconds in your DD for over 10k Dmg with Rocket Planes
I recently had a game with 4 Smolensks on enemy team.
I was playing stock Izumo
:(
@@placeholderGER Try avoiding cv by turning off AA and stick to friendly AA to shoo planes away, it is pretty effective against the initial rocket planes.
No need to rush to the cap if theres threat, and the team blames u if u die doing so, just wait for planes to go to the other side or cv to switch planes before going in
Never get blapped by the initial rocket planes in dd doing just that
Bảo Trần Hoài MM is much better these days after the MM change. It’s not completely fixed, but it has gradually felt much better.
Thank you for another amazing video. Over the past few years, I have learned a lot from watching your how to guides, reviews etc. I love how you can analyze every ship, shining a light on strengths and weaknesses. I’m not very good player, you would probably call me a “potato” 🤪 but your videos made me much better. Sometimes, I get to be a top player in a match. I have a Smolensk, but it’s difficult ship for me, with my style of play. Just got Thunderer for sure, super fun. I enjoyed my Moskva probably the most. Alaska can be fun after I play Montana! I actually like Gorizia a lot, it’s a dd killer...love shell velocity on that one, SAP is not bad. Finally got PR yesterday...had to pay a little to get that, but u get steel and coal as well. That enabled me to get Thunderer with coupon. So I’m not complaining! I always wanted to get Stalingrad, most likely by the time I get enough steel, ship will no longer be available. Cheers! Happy New Year!
I cannot disagree with anything on your list. I have all but two and enjoy these ships immensely.
Wargaming couldn't balance a homeless person's checkbook.
Bit das Jean Bart isn’t there but still your list is very good 👍
In point of beauty: Jean Bart will always be my Top 1
Now do a Top Ten Worst Premiums!
Yudachi, Prinz Eitel Friedrich, Genova, and the list goes on!
The whole Italian line is terrible tbh
@@LoLMasterManiac Tier 8, 9 and 10 are ok.
@@LoLMasterManiac except for T8 and up. I love my Venezia.
D: I fully expected Mikasa as nr 1
The video I’ve been waiting for since 2019. Thank you for all you do Flamu and I wish you luck in the new year.
conclusion: tier X is broken
Swolensk: "Is workings as intendeds, comrade! ))))"
The only thing that Kremlin needs is a Smolensk guns layout and reload without touching the caliber.
I am regretting getting Georgia over Thunderer first. Georgia is good but you do feel her limits with the # of guns.
Now thats the Flamu I love. A little snide, a little, cocky, and always ready to make folks regret saying something stupid. Keep up the good work hoss.
Thank you for this vid. It was very informative! I'm getting the Thunderer soon and I am super excited for it!
It might be a bit too much to ask, but could you do a similar video, bu with premium ships from tier 5 to 7? I would love to hear your opinions on those as well.
Everyone knows there is no premium better than the Smith.
With its torp reload time, it is hard to argue it isn't the most over powered ship in the game :P
Smith lord
Flamu: Counting down ships 1-10
Flambass: Top 10 Premiums are Smolensk :D
Great list! i love your hard work that you put in this game and videos!
Great video once again! Came back to make my mind between Somers and Stalingrad, and to leave a comment for the algorithm.
The list was pretty ok i just missed jean bard or yoshino
The only ship I miss from this list is the Jean Bart, a very fun and good ship to have, and one of the best option to make money, for me I like it more than the Georgia.
Have to agree, should be on the list. It has a weakness that is off set by it's speed and ability to flank. Not really a nose in tank the front line ship. More of a surprise from the side type
He said it's not here because of the easy to destroy guns... But JB is my favorite ship in the game... Awesome ship just makes me want to play this game again... I left because of T8 matchmaking bullshitery
@@kr4ftt yeah I heard why and I responded with its a weakness that can be avoided by going to flanks and catching broadsides. You dont need to go to the middle and tank every direction. you need the first volley from the side and should be good from there. half the ships on this list have weaksides yet that doesnt get them off it.
I did not expect the Bayard to be in your list :)
And I'm glad I prefered Bourgogne over Stalingrad. Judging by your ranking I think I will go for Thunderer instead of Georgia :)
Great video, I would agree with you for most of your list of ships and Hell yeah the Smolensk rocks! that and the Mass and Scharnhorst (that one is a beast) are have most fun boats to play
>not a single mention of a German premium
[sad German main noises]
T61, Kamikaze clons, Atago, Kaga..
@@_the_wolff_2652 Fuck off CV main
The good german premium right now is the Scharnhorst and T-61, tirpitz and Prinz Eugen can be situational powerful, also, keep an eye on the Odin, from the testing she is very promising if they dont change it to worse
@@mestrefioda666 Mainz shaping up to be decent too.
@@snegle3094 lol salty of cvs?
Wow and on my birthday:) Just was going to sleep not anymore:) Thx Flamu. Hope to see u ingame soon:)
I would choose tirpiz as one of my top 10 ships
I would have the JB in there spomewhere REEEE! I like it more than the Mass.
OKhotnik should have been an honourable mention for how fun it is to play and how affordable it is.
*Smolensk* : you should have mentioned the proposed IFHE / cruiser plating changes that if implemented will double nerf this ship
Happy New Year to you and the GF, Flamu. Looking forward to more of your quality content in 2020. I will probably never get enough of your concealed (but well-deserved) potato insults.
Oh this is going to be good!! Smolensk better be there. lol
No Colbert tho
At this point I wonder why Belfast is not in the premium shop.
Because they can win alot more money with those christmas boxes, same for Enterprise.
Great video mate! Thanks for the advice on the prems . BTW, what sight are you using in-game? Are you able to share your mod preferences, if you are in fact using any.
I am surprised Colbert didn't make it to this list.
Sure Smolensk is arguably better and easier to play overall but Colbert is also a very nasty ship to deal with.
No smoke or torps make it a much harder ship to play.
@@pskovca it has even more DPM than Smolensk and it's no steel ship
I think he didnt mention the colbert yet is because he does not have it yet, never seen him playing it after the official launch in the research bearue
@@arthur_pd pretty weak answer for such a skilled coordinator, you must be fake
He has it ^^ and he had played it
@@Markus-zb5zd oh then i must have missed watching it, because i only seen him playing it when it was work in progress state, didnt know after official launch in RB
Pretty good list. I do notice that this consists of only high tier ships. Good evaluation of coal and steel ships along with a few tier 8/9 free xp/doub/prem shop ships
Smolensk: not only can BB blab them but cruisers as well. BB should shoot HE and still citadel the ship. Shells have terrible arc beyond 15km but initial velocity does not allow the ship to shoot over islands. Ship can mainly do damage by fire which is a damage over time. Alpha damage is meh despite the number of shells, especially if the superstructure of a BB is already saturated.
I recently got enough coal for any of the coal premiums, i chose the jean bart, not because it is the most powerful, not because i enjoy the playstyle, but because it was build.
I just got the Smolenks, saving up coal for the Thunderer. I actually wanted to get the Thunderer first, however I had a strange feeling that it will be removed from the armory soon, so decided to secure it before it goes.
Nice list! But i would like to note that at 5:30 you say that Bayard has 30mm Deck and upperbelt armour, while it is actually 27mm meaning that you can bounch 380mm shells but not 406mm.
Its a bit galling that steel & steel ships are not realistically available for those who don't play clan or ranked, but who might otherwise be good/dedicated pvp players. WG's policy of making "reward" tanks/ships somewhat OP (rather than just "different" or unique, for example) just exacerbates the problem of "elitism" that plagues multiplayer games. Paywalls, clanwalls, grindwalls tend to drive away the mass player base needed to keep a game healthy.
Hello @Flamu I like your videos.
Can you make a video only for t8 premium ships?
Basically featuring 8 of my Top 10. Flamu is talking about the truth those Ships are strong, and mostly fun to play. :)
I agree with Flamu he knows what he is talking about. I recently got graf zep, sims, and alaska b versions on black friday containers. for xmas so far i got exeter,murmanks,prince eugen,leningrad, and used told to buy tirpitz. next ships i buy will be from this list.
Your list is actually good imo. Even though I don't have most of the ships listed, it seems correct as I faced most of them already at some point.
The Smolensk is something they should either nerf or just remove from the game as it brings more HE spam than anything else, which isn't adding to the fun...
I'm a less than average player and just love the open water Smolensk. Sure, a good player will make your match short but it is so much fun as a kiter than an island hugger.
You should try to get Colbert :P
@@Markus-zb5zd That would be groovy. Kinda hate how they are soaking us for new ships, though.
I have to say most ships and the best ships listed are available for free grind (which is nice). You can grind coal, steel or free xp, but all of that is actually free (free to play players have to grind A LOT more for sure, but they can eventually get all of them). I would add Asashio on the list.
Hmm, might get the Thunderer then.
Smolensk is tempting, but I already got my favorite dakka bote in the Akizuki.
If you feel like it, do it - because Smol might get double-nerf if/once the proposed IFHE/cruiser plating changes make it into the game. I got the Smol but only because I wanted an open water smoke dakka bote
I got the Smolensk I case WG pulled it off the shelves quickly because of how OP it is. I don’t like playing it because I feel dirty and I don’t want to had to the Smolensk cancer out there. I think I would have enjoyed the Thunderer more and not feel nearly as bad playing it. Working on getting both so I don’t have to choose.
Bruh Akizuki is like 10% of what the russian beast can do
I love your top 10 list and I put a lot of value to it, as you are one of the players that will top MY TOP 10 best WoW players...... (for the month of January 2020)
Massachusetts is my fav. secondaries all day and night. It would be nice to have T8 ranked without it being a gimmick 1v1
what about Yoshino? Do you think it’s worth to buy?
sigh, i remember when HE wasnt the be all end all :/ good times
My 2 cents.
"Massie": A brawler. What's not to like?
Alaska. Not a favorite. A bit too clumsy for me.
Bayard: A bit squishy but the dakka-dakka makes up for it. Fun.
Ohio: Don't have her. I don't regrind. Ever.
Georgia: Fast. Hits hard. Good 2ndarys. Me likes.
Somers: Don't have her.
Stalingrad: Don't have her.
Bourgogne: Don't have her. But I do like the Alsace.
Thunderer: Not bad. Not the best but still good.
Smolensk: Fun. King of dakka-dakka but can't tank for shit. Get hit and die. (Trick is to not get hit.)
I just want to point out two things about this list.
1: All the ships are tier 8-10.
2: 4/10 are RB or steel.
Theese two facts combined means that hightiers are a playground for the hardcore players and the rest doesn't need to bother. Sad.
Sea Satan at the first place - how surprising ;3
The spreadsheet says it’s fine, and people have fun when facing it
Somers or Stalingrad? I do love dds but I like supercruisers as well so I am not sure...
So the most ridiculous ships are soviet hmm who would have guessed that...
Ever since my gaming pc crashed back in Sept '19, I've been out of the loop and there's a flood of new premiums to boot.
and what do you think about Colbert? worth it? I dont want OHIO cause I have full Yamato built, maybe Il keep my points for a future new ship..
Happy new year Flamu!
Flamu, what do you base your ranking? Is it firepower, effectiveness, money making capabilities or some other factor?
I just bought Stalingrad with coupon, and i still have enough steel for Flint. I am thinking of getting Flint or Bourgogne. Like both Atlanta and Alsace. Should i wait for the coupon to get Bourgogne or should i just get Flint now?
Drunk Squirrel Ye, gimme 10minutes, then i got it.
U save ur steel for Bourgogne, or Somers
If you have atlanta, don't bother with Flint. Atlanta > flint imo. both are great tho
Don’t get the flint, not that great.
@@juancho420 if it's not that great, you are using it wrong
Id love a top 3 ships per class per tier of all of them. like T5 DD might be like Kamekaze and 2 others or something - T5 BB might be a Gulio Cesare and 2 other ones - Id like to hear some t4 for fun too
Massachusetts: exists
Alabama: am I a joke to you?
Nice Video, Nice list, I hope you plan on doing one for Tech Tree ships too, can't imagine whos gonna be number one on tht list... "muffled Hardbass in the background" Comrade Balans is on the way...
where is the jean bart ?
well I am surprised there’s no Friesland or Jean Bart included in ur ratings Flamu.
Can’t even play tier X and have fun anymore because of the kinds of ships that exist there. I’m honestly willing to buy back a tier VII ship so I can enjoy the game again
those (premium) you mentioned they are elite ships they don't provide money specially tier 10s please keep premium for only ships that can give you credit and the income you expected from it to buy it because most of your ships won't benefit me in terms of credit as tier 8&9 premiums
Out of the list, I have U.S.S. Massachusetts and U.S.S. Georgia and I enjoy playing both, generally with a secondary build. I am considering Alaska and Bayard. Ohio and Somers both look like fun ships.
RIP just found this video and Smolensk is already no longer available :(
What about the friesland? It technically can be bought (if you use dubs to get free xp)... =D
@@NachoManRandySandwich it is stronk but its not as stronk as the ships on this list, per tier of course
If you look at the ships on the list you could do well in them regardless of player skill. Friesland actually has a fairly high skill requirement imo.
What about some of the lower tier premiums. What are the best 5 to 7s for instance?
Shame Tirpitz has been bumped from these lists... She's still a good bote in my eyes. Just waiting on Odin release and Smolensk nerf.
ohhh Odin... the only thing that might get me to open up my wallet again.
But she sort of makes me feel like I wasted money way back when I got the Scharnhorst
Smolensk is fine, what are you talking about? Truly buffs needed
Smolensk is like teemo, whatever happens focus it first, dont know if you should shoot a carrier or smolensk, shoot smolensk, dont know if you should cap or shoot smolensk, shoot smolensk, you're girlfriend wants to leave you because youre screaming in the middle of the night, shoot a smolensk :)
Finally a CC that doesn't mention the benham! WG some people have real lives to live! Cheers
Benham isnt available anywhere.Its not that he didnt mention it because he doesnt like it.Its not on sale.Or he'd have on the list Missouri as well for the same reason
@@gabbygr7 yes it is but you didn't read the memo ;) the benham and the missouri