The 2019 Victoria’s Secret Fashion Show Officially Cancelled!!
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It’s truly the end of an era. No more glittery runway walks; no more angel wings. After nearly 25 years, The Victoria’s Secret Fashion Show has been canceled.
What’s up guys, I’m Sussan Mourad here with Clevver News and while this may seem like bombshell news, the lingerie company has been struggling for years to keep up with customer demands, both in the store and on the runway. Here’s what’s been going on:
To put it simply… customers aren’t pouring into the stores anymore for a number of reasons. L Brands, the parent company that owns Victoria’s Secret, released a statement announcing that the iconic fashion show was canceled for 2019. They addressed customer’s dissatisfaction head on.
"We'll be communicating to customers, but nothing that I would say is similar in magnitude to the fashion show... You can be sure we'll be communicating with customers through lots of vehicles including social media and various, more current platforms, if you will.”
Ok sidebar -- Victoria’s Secret listening to customers is great and all, but the reason many believe the brand is in such a mess in the first place is because they’ve flat out IGNORED their customers. Let’s talk about one of the biggest issues plaguing the brand: Diversity.
We’d be remiss if we didn’t mention Rhianna’s recent Fenty X Savage fashion show here. Take a look at the recent runway extravaganza:
Now take a look at Victoria’s Secret lineup.
It’s not hard to see the stark contrast between the two shows. Rhianna’s got models of every size, shape, and ethnicity. Victoria’s Secret’s got…. Stick Thin Models.
Victoria’s Secret lack of diversity was a HUGE controversy late last year with then cheif marketing officer Ed Razek made a declaration about the lingerie brand: They were uninterested in adding any plus size or transgender models to their model lineup. Why?
Quote, “Because the brand has a specific image, has a point of view. It has a history...Because the show is a fantasy. It’s a 42-minute entertainment special. That’s what it is.”
Ed, by the way, resigned earlier this year because as you can imagine, those comments didn’t go over well. As Vogue put it, Victoria’s Secret is still “Banking on Bombshells,” or one specific image of sexy, when the rest of us understand that beauty comes in multiple shapes and colors.
It didn’t help that Victoria’s Secret’s own models were speaking out against the brand too…
Bella Hadid earned those coveted Victoria’s Secret wings in 2018, which should have been a highlight of her career. But just last week she told Vogue that she never felt sexy on the glittery runway. Instead, she only recently felt comfortable modeling in lingerie for Savage X Fenty.
Bella said, “Rihanna’s amazing. For me, that was the first time on a runway that I felt really sexy. Because when I first did Fenty, I was doing other lingerie shows and I never felt powerful on a runway, like, in my underwear.”
And I mean, it shows on the runway. Look how confident Bella looks on Rhianna’s stage!
Now, look how different Bella’s vibe was at her Victoria’s Secret Fashion Show debut in 2016.
Turns out most of us agree with Bella: it’s freeing when we get to decide what makes us feel sexy, rather than have a company decide for us.
The revelation showed in the Victoria’s Secret Fashion Show ratings. Last year, a mere 3.3 Million people tuned in to the annual event -- the lowest ratings ever, and only half of what the show received in 2018.
And listen, the “ratings” or sales in the store have been on the decline too. Customers not only want to SEE diversity on their screens, they NEED diversity in their products cause, shocker… most women don’t look like supermodels, and they certainly can’t wear a bra made for one.
So instead, customers have flocked to places that offer a range of sizes that fit all types of bodies. Start up lingerie companies like Third Love and Adore Me are flourishing at the same time Victoria’s Secret sales have been declining. As Third Love co- founder Heidi put it:
“Change is being forced by more women and more companies.”
Yup, women are putting their money elsewhere and no longer buying the image Victoria’s Secret is selling.
But what do you think?
Will you miss the annual event or are you more excited about the new wave of lingerie like Rhianna’s Savage X Fenty? Not gonna lie, I didn’t tune into the last VS show, but Savage X Fenty?! We had it blasting in the office while we danced along cheering.
But let us know your thoughts in the comment section below.
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But where will Leonardo DiCaprio find his girlfriends now 😂
My thoughts exactly 🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂
at proms and colleges and other places where he can find girls up to 25 years old
Hahaha!! 😂😂
Fenty Shows? 🤣🤣
Seeing a thin body should not be triggering just like seeing a curvy body should not be triggering
Exactly!!
True, but this is not about that... this is about lack of diversity and disclusion of the women who are not size zero!
Seeing skinny people is not the problem, the problem is that we ONLY see skinny people in the show...
Kara Camille Delonas || it’s not about skinny people it’s about the lack of diversity..
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Kara Camille Delonas exactly
As a plus size myself, this show never made me feel "left out " or "offended " the whole stage is as described " fantasy " and I enjoyed watching it. However I dont know if they dont make the actual products in range of sizes , that might be an issue, but otherwise... I will miss the show.
Same!!!
I'm a 16E-F bra AUS and i personally couldn't ever find my size.
But the transphobia was also not cool.
DuuH Stop labelling the brand transphobic. IT IS NOT TRUE. Their former CMO made those offensive remarks in an interview backstage at last years show, 1 very old man in the midst of the chaos of the show. He wasn’t thinking straight about how his comment could hurt the brand and the company put out an apology for his comments. He has also recently retired and VS now has mostly women working as part of the creative direction team. VS isn’t transphobic, their former CMO is and he is gone now. They actually have a trans model working for them regularly now - Valentina Sampaio.
They have size up to 40 DDD, i have some pink bra from few years and they are still in perfect condition
I feel like the VS models never get credit for the amount of work and gym time they put in to look that way! So props to them the Vs show always encouraged me to get my butt to the gym but it was never because I thought I should look like that! But idk to each there own 😬
Erin Sanchez did you also hear the rumours " they fast 2-3 days prior to VS show? Some eat cotton balls hard to believe but that's outrageous) do high colonic enemas so their stomachs are TOTALLY FLAT.
Never surprisingly though,heard anyone using any blow nor adderall ??? Though,wouldn't rule it OUT!
@@tiffanyroseangeles7517 u said the word yourself. *"Rumors"* that word alone contradicts your entire statement. You live with every vs model to know that right. When there's literally proof of them actually working out
@@tiffanyroseangeles7517 People work hard to gain certain look on their body, they eat healthy,live a healthiest life that they could, dont' hate others for your own insecurities, they're models,it is their job to fit into a garment made by model mesurement chart,they dont have to look sad and jeleouse as everyone, its their job to look their best preferably even better cause they are M-O-D-E-L-S and also no they dont' eat cotton thats a satire joke that some people made up, they need nutrients to carry a heavy wings and heavy emballished outfits,they dont eat suger or food that gives fats 2-3 days prior to the show becuase they need extra energy fatty foods makes body lazy even bodybuilders do this before competition,stop comparing yourself to others espicially models little do you know that they work their ass off to look certain way, if you think you have it bad try going in a model casting these girls are being told right to their faces every little imperfect detail on their body but do they cry and weep?maybe but they took it as a challange and they gain confidence and courage and self-esteem in real dont' expect to be spoon-fed everyday
Most of them snort coke and pop prescription pills to look that way.
I saw the diet plan of Adriana lima where she had clearly said that people shouldn't follow that(because it was all liquid for 10 something days) . I actually wanted to follow that because I wanted to have a body like that. Now, years later, I think about it and it baffles me how something so unhealthy is glamorized. Good thing that you were motivated most girls like myself were ready to starve ourselves.
I will never forget Gisele Bundchen’s 2005 opening walk
NEVER. That was iconic. To me, VS was already boring since superstar models left the show.
@@ardikapradnya7040 I agree. Once they started making the girls blow kisses and doing angel wings and too much on the runway, the show got corny.
Thats when I loved VS as a kid. They had models that looked sexy and looked like well women. Now its just thin girls that look sick or like a boy before hitting puberty. There is no diversity and that thin image is not sexy it promotes unrealistic and unhealthy images of what women are supposed to look like. I miss when models looked like Cindy Crawford who were athletic, healthy and sexy now its 😷😷. Nothing against the models just cannot stand companies like VS that have had no brand growth in terms of image
OMG! Same. That opening was one of the greatest.
Batty Boo OMG ME EITHER!!! I was shook and am still shook to the core to this very day every time I watch her I. That little devil costume #MakeVSgreatagain
When you love yourself and you love the way you look you won’t be overly sensitive or insecure over some skinny toned models. I’m considered “thick” I have junk where it’s supposed to be and just cuz I may be thicker than these models it doesn’t mean I hate this show I actually love watching this show cuz it’s a once a year kind of thing and they sell stuff in everyone’s size. Too many insecure people ruining things that are for entertainment, yeah they could have added plus size models but they have a tradition with these skinny toned models and even if that’s not right it’s something they don’t want to change.
I just liked watching the show because, finally my5’10”/slim body is being celebrated. I can’t tell you how many ppl have gone up to me and said “oh eat something”, “oh when I used to not eat it I was that thin too””oh being tall must suck for dating, being short is more feminine.
Same!
People are too damn sensitive.That’s why we can’t have nice things now.
So true
true, like let a brand has their branding lol
SallyWen True,like I don’t have the best body in the world or I don’t have their height but do people see me crying on social media about unrealistic body standards? Like I love body positivity but people like to project their insecurities on other people these days and they get offended by everything.VS was like a fantasy everyone liked to watch but now it’s over because everyone is a snowflake.
Atleast you have the guts to say it is because quite frankly we are living in a world where we breath the wrong way and everyone gets mad . We have grown into a place where we have no backbone or people cant stop putting in their 2 cents which would be a PC opinion. If i have offended anyone that was not my intention!
Note G that’s what we call jealousy
Well I’m a size 4 and my mom is a size 12/14 and she is probably more obsessed with VS then I am. You don’t have to be tiny to love VS. Just sayin.
My opinion...a plus size show wont add skinny models..to stay with the brand...why hate on a show for staying with the brad ..just because some other show does it different..everybody has a place in the industry...are we hating on skinny models shows now?
Rihanna did include everyone in her show
Iwona Filipowska every brand is different.
Iwona Filipowska but Lane Bryant wouldn’t include skinny models because there brand is plus size.
Then they shouldn’t be selling sizes in Large then :)
They are not receiving hate. Their sales just declineD. If they market to bombshell beauty its fine. But ignoring an untapped market for other types of women is seriously not a good business move, and its up for grabs for anyone to capitalize. Rihanna saw the potential and it works. VS only sells to skinny women, some brands only sells to plus size. Rihanna sells to all of those types of women.
VS declined because a lot of people stopped buying, the hate only comes secondary.
these women are blessed with good genetics by having nice faces (some got there with surgeries and rich families lol) and height, everything else is just working our regularly and eating healthy, so i don't understand why is being active and good looking triggering for a lot of people
Just lazy people and jealous who can never be a part of the show
They work out so hard and eat healthy to keep their figure and these jealous people hating them for that.
Not just Gene's I have everybody fat in my family I m skinny size4 but I work hard for it it's their job like everyone s else they must be skinny to be called a supermodel
I would like also a show with petite models because there are many of us not tall so in every show they should have all sizes and all girls tall and small skinny curvy black white then everything would just be fine
It's not that people think good looking people are triggering, it's bc there are a range of people that VS is not targeting. Just bc you uplift different body sizes, doesn't mean you think being stereotypically beautiful is bad. Fenty did a great job at doing just that.
I... I... I've gotta say this....
As a curvy and non white (sadly I guess that's what ethical means these days), I used to love VS growing up. The colours, designs, music. Most of all the powerful women that worked so hard to earn their wings. Hours of training behind the spotlights, working hard to earn something.
It was ruined when they brought in the hadids, Jenner, baldwin- who got into the industry because of privelage (their families) and then got onto the prestigious vs runway simply because of Instagram followers. They thought it would expand the brand but...
When the show was about humble hard work behind the scenes into a magical runway walk (how the models felt, and how we felt watching our favorites) - that was special, that was a form empowerment. Woman celebrated for their hard work.
As a little curvy pre-teen that in all honestly wasn't in the best shape, they inspired me to love myself enough to work hard for a healthier body (I never wanted to look thin (just not my preference) , I just wanted to be healthy for myself) .
Problem is most 'curvy' people these day won't accept they need to make changes because of what's happening to beauty standards.
WHY is society shaming thinner people??? Why must there be a bigger girl everywhere we go?
If there's a woman's hockey team people don't protest to have a man in it.
How can we shame people who worked hard (like Romee Strijd - a super role model)
& in some cases: How is eating all the pizza you want, developing diabetes and then getting on the runway being praised?
The other day in the mall, there was a photoshoped clearly obese lady on a spread in the display window for an underwear brand. "it said celebrate yourself or something" I was honestly so confused..
THAT IS NOT SELF LOVE. and it is so damaging to teach young girls that they don't deserve more for themselves. I feel like people can't say the world gets them down when actually their own energy levels are bringing them down because they don't eat nutritious meals.
(I feel like people want to be curvy like Kardashians but don't realize they got their with working out and liposuction and implants. That's another toxic story 😑)
But Let's be honest, Rihanna wasn't ever so into diversity and plus size until she became plus size after losing her trade mark ponde-replay abs and started loving cheetos a bit too much. Easier using her empire to make everyone accept weight gain instead of working out. ( just being honest)
Yes the brand directors had issues with pushing a certain type of look (extremely tall and thin girls) I think what they needed were a few girls who were not necessarily as tall (but still model tall ) and had a little more muscle definition and also others with a little bit more meat on them etc - Curvier but still healthy.
The show was about putting in extra hard work, not the digestive system putting in extra hard work to break up the consumption of too much sugar and carbohydrates.
I'm sorry to the thinner girls for people telling you you need to eat bread. I'm sorry to the curvy girls for people telling you your too big. I'm sorry to the borderline and obsese girls for people telling you - "you don't have to change - you are perfect" perfectly imperfect but you derseve to love yourself enough to respect your body, change unhealthy habits and be in good physical health for yourself.
Yes we are all beautiful in our own way, but if a thin girl is anorexic- changes must be made and if a curvy girl is heading to obesity - changes must be made
There I said it.
Lauren Bianca amen girl.
You go girl! You definitely said it. Lol. I enjoyed reading your post.
It's a year later but I love this post!
@@beatemueller7830 amn
Thank you girl 👏
After adriana lima quit i wasn’t going to watch anyway, still kinda sad tho
Well it getting trash when IG model like kendall in it. That when I knew I wasn't going to watch anyway.
Would only watch for Candice anymore she’s a goddess
Yep she was the only reason I watched the last supermodel that was a supermodel and not a celebs kid that got the gig because of mommy or daddy
Same here VS nothing without her
I only watched for Adriana and Candice.
This pisses me off. Not to offend anyone but this “woke” culture is getting annoying af. They’re cancelling everything. Some of us enjoy the fashion show and the brand and what it stands for. It’s like the perfect fairy tale . You don’t have to look like that. And you don’t have to ruin it for the rest of the world bc your mad that you don’t look like that
I mean victoria’s secrete is for sure an eye candy so I love their show as well but regardless it’s probably good for the children to learn to embrace all kinds of beauty.
And as much as we don’t wanna believe media do affect minds of young people that’s just a fact can’t do anything about that
I agree to this. Some of us really appreciate all the efforts they put in the show. I will totally miss it 😔
Cielo A exactly. They work for it and they’re models because they look better than average. I don’t want to see average looking people walk the runway , just like I don’t want to see average athletes compete or listen to average singers sing. We watch them because they’re above the norm. If that makes you feel bad about yourself because you feel like you can’t measure up, maybe you should focus you’re attention on other areas of your life where you are talented. Not everyone is gifted with the same things.
Tani_Leo Im sorry but I enjoy being beautiful and a model and I don’t in any way feel like I’m a piece of meat or whatever. Some of us just enjoy it as a hobby. I’m tired of people shaming those who feel comfortable in their bodies and embrace their bodies . Just cause some people have a certain mentality on it if that’s the guilty conscience you have than can’t help you
This makes me feel like the current generation/era of people is very envious
Sam S they are
No, they are simply more aware of what real everyday women look like vs the fantasy that Victoria’s Secret is pushing out.
The fact that a man is in charge of Victoria’s Secret is the real issue to me. I’m glad that less ppl are buying their brand cause their shit is overpriced, uncomfortable, and frankly not very good quality.
Ephionine i agree with you but i hate that some people wants and see transsexual as real women just because the new agenda normalized it! People nowadays goes sensitive because of social media everyone feel entitled complain and insult something they don’t like, they even send dead threats if you state facts to them using science biology or nature because their feelings gets triggered. Things were good and fine before social media because everyone minded their business and there was no such thing as those SJW. Now i see communities normalizing pedophilia seing they are attracted to children and find nothing wrong with it. I think human always need rules and limits to obey, to much freedom make people crazy and never satisfied about their current situation.
No, they're not. When aI was younger guys wouldn't even bat an eye to chubby or fat chicks. Now guys are learning that looks are not important at a younger age.
Eun Woo bitch, I never said fat vs skinny. I said the fantasy that Victoria’s Secret pushes out, which frankly, unless you’re a 34-24-34 5’8-6’0 tall woman with a pretty face, you don’t match the fantasy either 🙄
You should be okay with all bodies. Even skinny ones.
People are, however there was no diversity in terms of body size at the show. It was ALL stick thin models, no curvy girls at all. People should be okay with curvy girls too, clearly VS is not that is the problem here. All the skinny girls getting triggered on here is absurd.
@@mayshusakuhanamurasufferli5438 shut up
@Galadreana Lopez no one is jealous first of all, people are misunderstanding what I said, I said people should be good with ALL bodies, yes even thin ones. Sports Illustrated swimsuit has all types of bodies and I don't know one man that has a problem with it. VS has no body diversity at all and I'm sorry but that's ridiculous and if you dont agree, that's fine, it's just my opinion.
people are soooo sensitive now a days, VS had a specific style and that's okay, I bet if there "specific style" was only POC or plus size models no one would´ve said anything. the VS angels are GORGEOUS!
paulina brucciano I agree.. the main problem is that times change and if VS doesn‘t at least adapt a little bit to todays customer demand they won‘t make it.. especially in a highly competitive market like the lingerie market 😕
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That’s our generation. If they don’t like they cancel it. I will still buy Victoria Secret.
I understand what you want to say, but VS is not just a show, as a brand you need to make people want to buy your stuff. And when you only include ONE BODYTYPE only a small group of women will buy it. That is bad for your company. So VS has to decide for themselve, if they want to make a show with beautiful, perfekt women just to show off, or to actually sell their bras.
@@1508eb perfect women??😂😂
VS never said that they are canceling the show period... only this year
Αγγελιάνα Ιωαννίδου whatever
They've cancelled indefinitely, VS is not coming back
@@shanice8351 how did you find out? Do you have links to where it says that? Bc it’s obvious they wouldn’t do it this year bc of COVID but maybe next year
@@sophiagray837 no. They’re not continuing with shows anymore
i hope so? its my dream to walk that runway...it has to come back!
At first when I heard this I was like "GOOD thats what they get for not being diverse towards womens bodies!" But I thought about it for a while and I relised theirs actually nothing wrong with it. There can be fashion shows for strictly one body type for representation! As a skinny girl its nice to see girls who dont have much on them because it makes me feel normal. EVERY body type deserves to been seen and celebrated. There can be different fashion shows for different body types. HOWEVER they should definitely provide lingerie for all sizes and not say that these girls have "the fantasy body."
McFuhkk and to be honest those other companies don’t have true diversity either just because they feature a few plus size models. I don’t see any short, old or disabled models in their show. You can’t shame other companies for having a weight limit, while having a height or age limit yourself. That’s just being a hypocrite.
lol diverse for who? fat women and men pretending to be boys? god you woke karens are a disgrace to the american society, no wonder its going down the drain
Victoria Secret’s models being skinny and tall is pretty much their brand, they are known for their models looking like that. Where Fenty’s brand is about feeling powerful and yourself, really just to love your body for what it looks like. I liked watching VS show because of the creativity in the designs but I am really glad Rihanna took this step because the creativity of her show with all of the dancers is very empowering.
Fenty is TRASH
@@chrislovitt46 Aww chris is MAD because the white and skinny beauty standard is DYING out and people are starting to prefer other body types. So sad.
@@heatherhussler6709 you're a self hating , suffering fat fuck. That's on you and people like you. You hate on true beauty because, you don't qualify . It doesn't change ANYTHING. The only people that are clapping for this bs are unattractive, fat women. Beautiful women don't hate on other women period. We will still have our beauty standards. VS being in business or not doesn't change beauty standards. Go eat some more trash, you garbage bag.
Chris Lovitt beauty has changed over the coarse of time lmao, from hairy, bushy eyebrows, chunky and skinny women. So what’s the definition of “true beauty” because last time I checked, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. That’s what she meant by YOUR beauty standards. Shit is ridiculous if you think being skinny is a beauty standard.
Bella's comment feels more like biting the hand that once fed you. VS elevated her. She may disagree with certain aspects of the company but not throwing such shade.
Spoiled rich kid taking for granted opportunity gained from a successful parent? That's not too unexpected.
@Galadreana Lopez She was probably envious, she is only famous because of her mother.
@Galadreana Lopez I just love Victoria Victoria I hope they are not closing wow how many times I have felt sad and low this store is my therapist it always make me feel better after shopping there.
Bella is fake, she said in 2017 wanted to the show and so whatever yet throwing shade. F her
Victoria's Secret is about men. Women dressing up to look good for men.
Fenty is about womxn dressing for themselves. That's powerful.
Carrie Davis stop comparing
Armani Johnson No, VS fucked up.
Carrie Davis your words WERE ICONIC
Agree. And wouldn't have as a circus. We already have a high percentage of obesity in the USA and allowing obesity to be a show would only increase hot dog sales and obesity.
My neighbor got so fat tha t 2 years about 6 year later she passed away and the coroner had to break the wall to get her out of the house.
Victoria's Secret stands for womens strength it's not about the men it never was
Bella was confident on Fanty show coz there wasn't any real models walking, so she own the show, But on vs there are many great models so she couldn't walk well. Lol
Victoria secrets❤❤❤Best
Exactly,most of the girls on VS are better than her thats why she felt that way,nothing's more
Yes. And maybe because she's not one of the VS Angels.
Exactly! VS should have stick to getting "real models" and not just instamodels. I think that was also one of the reasons why they fail!
Waxsy Wanglee, and her ex was singing at VS show lol
You should be more respectful i think
Watching VS fashion show every yr was like the 1 thing that made me feel better about myself & now there's nothing. Y'all say whatever, but I'm still shopping at VS
Katerina Grace SAME! I’ve always looked up to these angels🤧 VS is still the only place at which I buy my bras and underwear and idc what bs people y’all about it
Have you watched the Fenty show yet? I'm just realizing that I haven't and want to go catch up
Watch Rihanna’s show?? There are tons of fashion shows, VS wasn’t even great at their shows. It was so boring
@Feliciatanktop how u feel about the VS shows is how I felt watching rihanna's. I can understand if some ppl liked fenty better, but to have VS cancelled for those who still love it makes no sense. I honestly feel like VS would've aired this yr if it weren't for the unnecessary comparisons
Feliciatanktop actually vs’s fashion shows were more than great.
I will never forget Adriana Lima’s opening walk for the 2003 show
Let’s be real here, VS isn’t doing poorly bc of social backlash or “trigger culture,” it’s cuz they haven’t made decent looking lingerie since the 2000s
I feel like not every company has to represent diversity, yes diversity is important for many reasons, but not every company should have to follow on just becuz the public wants them to. (even though the public is what keeps them going, it's still my thoughts)
Sometimes ppl r just too sensitive, it's just a show to model lingerie, it's not telling the public "you have to have a body like this in order to look good in this" it's just ppl thinking tht they have to. 🙄
I wish people would stop saying VS lacked ethnic diversity.
Um because it did? And notice how you're white saying this.
Askia Vance I watched the show all the time and they had a great balance of white girls, black girls, and Asian girls, yes there was more white girls because more white girls were trying out for the shows.
its a shame. ppl are soo sensitive these days i swear. im kinda sick of the word diversity. it is overused for sure. vs standards are different. great to Rihanna that she showed plus size model, but like... idk vs is vs.
Yup!VS is one of a kind..and victorias angels are really beautiful.
VS doesnt have to bring diversity in models rather they only need to concentrate on designs.
I dont knw y ppl are being butthurt..
@@guess7576 true, but nowadays if they dont have a plus size model they are fat shaming people smh ppl need to stop with this nonsense
@@krustycrab9628 Its good they cancelled before they had to include all category of butthurt people..they should have cancelled before the inclusion transfreaks!
Exclusivity really stresses the idea of 'fantasy' and having to work hard to become beautiful. I understand if its showing people with more curves than usual but once it becomes 'everyone is a model' that's not an ideal message to send out to a society that does NOT run like that. Everyone is NOT always successful, everyone is NOT always going to get what they want, so showing stuff like this teaches people that they think they can get whatever they want. If they want to promote all-sized women, they should also promote all-sized men too, from tall to very short; fit to plus-size.
They said they would cancel 2019 so they could prepare better for 2020 and btw Victoria’s Secret has different races and is pretty diverse
Yeah, I've never undestood why people keep saying they don't have divesity because they always have beautiful models of different races.
Jamil Gotcher they are talking about plus size models and transgender. I personally think VS shouldn’t have to change a thing.
Alicia Pink I am a former high fashion model, I’m now middle aged and plus size ( I’m a professional photographer and model coach now). With that being said it will give perspective for my opinion. My daughter is a former Ford and IMG model. We were invited to a party about 12 years ago and I met a VS model. She’s very beautiful but I feel too thin for lingerie modeling and looks great in clothes though. I’d like to see them at least have some models that were the size of the Supermodels of the 90’s instead of ones that are underweight and better suited for high fashion.
They need different body types
@@natashasmith6193 no, they don't. I kind of have the feeling that you wouldn't go to a plus size lingerie company and force them to add skinny models. Why should you do it vice versa? They show what they want to show, what they've been showing for decades and they MUST BE free to do as they want without insecure people ruining their business because they don't see themselves on the runways. Plus, VS sells underwear in all sizes, so all these plus size activists are not as excluded as they claim.
"Look how confident Bella Hadid looks with what she is wearing in Fenty"
Bella gives a blank stare in almost no clothing.
"Versus the way she looks totally dejected and miserable doing the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show"
Bella gives a black stare in slightly more clothing.
She looks miserable because the singer was her boyfriend and they literaly broke up like a day before the show , not because of the brand. like shut up Bella a lot of girls love the brand and breeze right into the casting, and you just show up demanding nepotism while barely fitting the requirements then complain you don’t feel powerful 😅 that’s like forcing Valentino to let Kendall walk when she clearly would never make it through a natural casting , but they have to include her on the runway not just featured in clout editorials , free gifts , or front row attendance .. or they will face the wrath of Kris and Kim the Hollywood leaders 🥴 like , they are literally both gorgeous and talented but don’t blame the brand when plenty of other designers adore you and feature you all the time, like fendi Chanel givenchy and balmain ❤❤❤
You have to be gullible if you think that inclusivity/diversity is the main reason for the show cancellation. Big compagnies don't care about this. The main focus is cash. For many of them, inclusivity is a marketing ploy. In this "woke" society, this how you gain popularity and stay on trend. Victoria's Secret, despite being awful, was at least honest.
The compagny has been struggling to find a steady bussiness plan since day one. The brand goes back and forth between gaining money to the verge of closing its doors. The marketing is the main issue, especially during the last few years. After 2013, the quality of the shows went downhill. Too much artists (it is not a concert!), their "models" are totally clueless and don't get me started on the fashion. While the chief marketing spoke about "fantasy", the runway is far from it. Behind the scene, things are not better. No one associates Victoria's secret with quality or good customer's service. In 2018 more stores were closed. The brand is in debt, Ed Razek's statement was just the nail in the coffin.
Wasn’t bella also the one crying because she got the vs show 🙄 hypocrite
Victoria Secret had amazing show . Lot of hard work and talented healthy hardworking model worked there butt off. And most affordable brand and cute. Don't force people to follow trend.
WHATS WRONG WITH HAVING A SPECIFIC IMAGE FOR A BRAND , ALL BRANDS HAVE A SPECIFIC IMAGE , WHY CANT VS ?!
This is SO STUPID. I loved watching the show. Everything was so beautiful and entertaining. I can’t believe all these activists went so far as to get the show cancelled. If u don’t like the VS show don’t watch! The fenty one is good too but not better. It’s best to have both. I will say the lack of racial diversity in the VS show is ridiculous. However, in terms of the models bodies, I don’t see the issue. In this particular show, their body shape is PART OF THE VS STYLE AND AESTHETIC. Rihanna’s show has more diversity and it works and fits her aesthetic. 🤷🏻♀️
The show was cancelled because nobody cares anymore.
The reason why nobody’s watching the show anymore is because it became tacky, there’s no glamour like early 2000s
I honestly cannot hear ‘diversity’ anymore🙄 VS was that “Fantasy” so who cares if it’s only skinny models. Also, every other brand is also only taking skinny models for their shows. And, what about height? Should I start complaining to be too short to model? Srsly
Yeah, people are being overdramatic. Everybody doesn't need a plus-size model going down the runway. I personally prefer fantasy. I like seeing a body type I and everyone else can universally like.
I know right!
Not just about plus size models but diversity as in race e.t.c
I know right? VS made literal history for being the way they are, so haters can go and cry about it. Seriously with all the million brands in the world that sell plus size underwear they're still whining? i can't with these first world problems.
Agreed. I'm 4'11' and always said if I was just a foot taller I could be a model because I've got the measurements yet they require no shorter than 5'9". Definitely not the average for women but oh well no need for people to cry over spilled milk so to speak.
Honestly my dreams are crushed being an angel was one of my biggest dreams
me too
You guys ....joking I hope......
TIffanyrose Angeles no we’re not I actually really wanted to be on VSFS
@@tiffanyroseangeles7517 I don't understand why you think they're joking. Being a model is a real job and you don't know the half of the story😉
Me too !!! Hv been working out and eating healthy, I look upto these angles
NOOOOOO!!! This makes me so sad. I can’t believe some people are happy to see it go. This show is something I look forward to every year. These models work so hard annually for their bodies it’s motivating and inspiring. This is heartbreaking.
I may be the only one who thinks this, but I'm gonna miss this show since it did have a huge impact on my healthy lifestyle.
But, that's what you get for not moving with the times.
Preach.
VS isn’t a thing for “anorexic girls” like I read somewhere.
Their models look most like the average than some others and their plus size too. Indeed they sell on purpose the most common sizes.
They promote a healthy lifestyle,especially angels because they look like it the whole year while other models change themselves to enter (Some get a bit skinnier even if they don’t need to just to be sure but that’s actually ruining the face of the brand. Most angels aren’t the same size).
The “perfect angel” measurement(not every angel has them) is average (Gisele and Adriana have it).
I think that people don’t understand how to change themselves properly. I’ve seen an article of a girl who years ago,when Miranda was still an angel became anorexic because she wanted to look like her but seeing her pictures she looked more like her in the before picture and let me be honest but I thought she that she probably lied because she became the opposite of Miranda and the model was only an excuse. (Sorry. That’s what I thought because it truly was strange to be obsessed over someone but not enough to get information about their diet).
People don’t inform themselves even a little. They would casually putting weight on if they wanted to look like a plus size model. It’s not that hard to google “diet” in 2000s.
Also,they say it is toxic for teenagers but the Pink section is very diverse and adapted to them because in teenage years bodys are even more different but when we grow up we are all taller and that’s how the body changes.
I feel really sorry for the brand too.
Also because many people are shading it just to praise Fenty but don’t open their mouths to other lingerie brands. I feel like some are even “bullying” the brand which is not so funny. It’s shady.
I do think that the brand should change, but shouldn’t promote too many big models unless healthy. They should add some sizes (bigger and flatter) and let smaller people in the runway. But they must remember about the good catwalkers first.
May Short say it louder for the people in the back!! Apparently nowadays everyone is all about preaching self expression and not diminishing other’s opinions but someone says they like VS and the image they sell and they automatically become a body shaming piece of shit. I’m honestly done with people today being so damn sensitive.
I no longer watch VS shows but I am a bit sad. They represented moments when I could escape from my awful life. Thanks to these shows, I started working out and I reduced my consumption of junk food. These women are vilified but personally, I enjoyed watching them not only on the runway but also during the little segments. Seriously, nothing was sexier than Adriana or Doutzen walking! I was genuinely surprised to see that some of them were funny and witty. Also, we had the opportunity to know more about their background and how they became models. I never bought VS lingerie (disappointed by their website and the reviews were not that great), but the shows gave me the confidence to buy sexy lingerie for the first time, feeling super beautiful in it and even modelling...in my bedroom!
Marie Smiles interested in what form was this an impact on a healthy lifestyle"? Just curious,no hate.
Actually I've a fast metabolism am tall & skinny.
Also a lacto ovo vegetarian for -4 yrs not due to VS but due to PETA.
I've never had skin issues or weight issues
@May Short OMG PREACH GIRL.
All this talk about shape and gender. Like there are NO Models anymore, only Instagram bimbos or girls pimped by their parents. NOW VS is expensive like hell, but the quality isn't worth it.
The utter lack of inclusivity is another addition
We have been knowing this for months lmao
The show went down hill when they started casting teenage looking models instead of women with mature looks
It’s because they knew they couldn’t compete with the Savage X Fenty Fashion show.....in my humble opinion
Hadids,kendall jenner, and winnie harlow ruined it. Not the lack of plus size
Exactly
period
Funny how the hadids walked savage too but it didn’t ruin their brand
@@deenadream as soon as theh hired them they cheapened the show, hadids kendall jenner and winnie harlow are not mysterious to us, we know their personalities. It made it look like a playground for rich girls instead of a fantasy
@@suzisuzim50 yeah thats true, way to bratty and spoilt for the vs show
Honestly don’t mind since my Queen Adriana left 😔
We saw it this coming didn't we?
The VS Shows were the best during the late 90s to 2000s era. The best part were the models look sexy bombshells. They did had some diversity of their models back then but not as much. Also the show production was much better during their early years. When they start bringing singers performing on stage, that became a distraction as the models walk. After 2010, the girls tend to look less bombshells, less curvier and look more teeny boppers. Adriana Lima was only responsible to keep the show alive during the last decade... but as Adriana retired last year.. that was the end also for the VS show. Many people watch the show just because Adriana is there.
This is the umpteenth action of those acid and envious people who do not know how to appreciate beauty without feeling attached, because they do not fall into that category of beauty
Kelia Lollos it had to be said and it has been finally said!! say it louder for the people in the back!!👏🏻👏🏻
I just want a storefront that I can walk into. I’m confused as to where to shop now. I’ve looked at the Fenty x Savage site, and I haven’t ordered yet because I’m always weary of online shopping. I guess I should get over that since so many stores are dying due to online shopping. Poor Kmart and all the workers :(
You should be leary about online shopping. I did some online shopping because I couldn't go to the stores and so many of the things I ordered, I don't wear and need to return. I wasted so much money. But when I recently went to shop at a store, I love everything I bought because I was able to see that it fit me properly.
I found the show to be so iconic and they were all about ‘natural’ beauty and pure talent. When they started to bring in insta famous models like Kendal, who absolutely have no stage presence I tuned out. She got in because she was Kendal Jenner and not because she was up with the best. She wasnt working hard and from small countries trying to get a break like all the OG models and it showed! And soon as they started gifting just anyone who had a big following a place it turned to trash and it just showed money and power will get to anything and not hard work or natural talent.
My 2019 is officially cursed.
"Presh out the runway",Rihanna.
Who all remember that performance by ri !!??
I dont get feminist on one hand its about body positivity and accepting all female body types. Then on the other hand they shame a skinny/athletic body saying that its "not what women look like" I mean I hate to be this dude I just think a lot of women are jealous of the dedication it takes to stay fit. Or I'm just a bigot haha
Yes, these lazy women want to bring down a brand instead of workout. It's funny that I would say this because I'm over weight, but I'm a former high fashion model that modeled Paris Haute Couture so that's probably why I don't hate beautiful and thin women. I've been a caregiver to my parents is why I've put on weight but I will eventually be able to put myself first again some day and work out but the women that hate VS are mostly just lazy people that don't want to work to achieve a fit body.
I don't think it's right to shame anyone! I just wish they could include some average sized body's for VS fashion show..I think it's nice to see beauty in different sizes, that's all
As a chubby brown person, I really thought the shows were fun and I'm sad that cancel culture has cancelled the show. It was bright ans loud and just mindless entertainment.
I stopped watching ever since Kendall started walking
IsRudino I watched just for laughs
Same here😂😂
Great, more hot people that 'don't feel sexy'...
I honestly think when they started to hire Instagram models instead of real models that’s when things started to go downhill for them
honestly i watch Victoria not for the angel or whatever, im watch victoria is for the musical performance
No matter how much fantasy is in the show, the reality is there are no sizes available and the prices are outrageous.
The thing this whole show stands for can be really toxic for women, especially teenage girls on the internet. With more diverse models in the spotlight, it could be a really empowering change for viewers.
Navi noodle I totally agree
How is it toxic that they promote a healthy lifestyle? I’m a teenage girl and a lot of people bullied me for being skinny. VS helped me embrace my body and made me feel good about myself. They also made me feel encouraged to eat healthier and workout more so that I’m the best version of myself. I don’t understand how that’s toxic.
Angelina Dimitrova it causes naturally curvy girls to become anorexic. I’m sorry you’ve been bullied and I’m glad to see that they have helped you, but not showing more realistic body types or trans people is harming a large percent of the population.
People don’t want to see kendall,gigi and bella walking down the same runway where real legends walked
See Rihanna’s influence!
Ishan Ali why are you every where??!
SO HAPPY FOR RHIANNA 😄
Bryn Bailey cause germs 🦠 stays everywhere 🙄😂
I don't know why everyone has such big issues with Victoria's Secret. I really enjoyed watching their shows and felt motivated to do sth afterwards
Fenty stays winning because they include everyone no one is left behind.
Fenty is trash yo.
Diego Del rey
Do you honestly believe fenty (Rihanna) cares about women of all shapes being accepted😂
If she actually cared she wouldn’t be supporting the fashion industry who highly discriminates against bigger women
She only spoke up about it until she opened up her own business
Why didn’t she speak on it the moment she thought of it?
The same thing happened with her fenty make up line
Like she said she wouldn’t do the Super Bowl because it treats black people unfairly
So why support the whole fashion industry that also treat bigger women unfairly
Rihanna is only doing this for the money and to make her look good, and that’s fine
But she shouldn’t pretend to care and use people’s struggle to get it
Diego Del rey your comment deserves to be the top comment!!!!
Ryan lex u trash yo
Diego Del rey life’s not fair. There’s always something missing.
Adriana Lima should've still been modelling. To save the day. Models nowadays are BORING .that's another factor
First: I'm glad most of the comments here concur to thr idea that people ARE too sensitive. It's not like the models are all WHITE, so VS DOES have a sense of diversity, and while the models are all "skinny", VS manages to produce bras of VARIOUS sizes. No? Also, yes "beauty" can be many things BUT no matter how much we try to change the perception of "beauty", we all know deep inside that "beauty" &" health" is going to be associated with "skinny or toned body". I think Victoria's secret is just promoting health and beauty in their own way. Yea it's their branding. If thicker people don't like their branding, they have the choice to shop somewhere else. If you dont like it, you don't like it. Victoria's does not need to change. They did not do anything wrong. Not everything needs to evolve with others.
It’s cancelled because there are no more household supermodel names to walk the runway.
sad cause i grew up watching them and fangirling on the girls although i understand that it’s damaging to most
There are many brands that include many body types, this is Victoria secrets brand, the models work so hard to look that way and that is how the brand wants the models to look. People ruin everything with being so sensitive. Not everything has to suite everyone, like leave things alone
It’s VS’s decision to be exclusively for skinny girls,just like there are plus size stores,there are ones for skinny girls.I don’t see that big of a problem.These women have beautiful genes,so if they want to walk the runway and show it good for them.All people are beautiful their own way,tall,short,skinny,curvy,black,white,ALL OF THEM.But some brands want to stay exclusive to certain things,Fenty will do its thing,VS will do it’s thing.Don’t like Fenty-don’t buy it,don’t like VS-don’t buy it
I honestly don't see an issue with not having plus girls on the runway, most fashion shows are using literally the same models and nobody has an issue with that. It's practical to use the same size when you only make one for runway in case somebody drops out. So there's no excuse in not hiring more transgender and POC.
Where VS has missed the train is that they keep mostly bombshell push up bras when the world moved on to bralletes and not keeping diversity of sizes in the stores. It's good that guy resigned though his comments were disgusting.
I’m so sad. Every year I would watch the Victoria Secret fashion show with my mother. It was our thing our boning experience. We would always look forward to it. I get that people don’t like that Victoria Secret has a specific image, and they are very specific with their models. I definitely do understand that people can get jealous of these models, but like damn I don’t understand why Victoria Secret can’t run the way it wants. If they wanna have an image so be it. I dont think it’s fair they r getting this much hate. From experience I’ve seen so many women in love with the store and with what they create. They don’t have to do everything according to society now... like let it run how it wants to run. I’m so disappointed that this show has been canceled. 😥
I love the Victoria secret models and show. But then again I'm not jealous 🤷🏼♂️
The fact that Adriana is still on the thumbnail speaks a lot about her.!
vs was one of must entertainment show ever its was inspired for to many so sad everything good never last
Noooooooo I don’t want it to be cancelled 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
If somebody said that curvy person’s body was ‘triggering’ people would go off.These girls have worked hard for those bodies,so if they want to show off-they can,just like a curvy,plus size models and people can.VS has traditions,this is how it’s been for 25 years,it’s THEIR thing and just cause they have gorgeous skinny girls walking there doesn’t mean that they think “bigger” girls are unworthy.IT’S JUST HOW THINGS GO WITH VS,don’t like it-don’t watch it.
honestly i wouldn’t have even watched it if it was on, all of the best angels retired... like the new girls are super pretty but none of them are sexy like adriana or alessandra.
Video: this is an and of a era
My mind: This is the end of and era, this is an end of Americaaaa
Thomas G its only the beginning
Hay Wnni it’s only a Lana del Rey lyrics
Thomas G that’s a bit dramatic
Thomas G lmao i was quoting lana too
Its just too expensive £54 for a bra when you can get one from ann summers for £10 on sale
I'm a skinny person,no matter how much I eat and I love burgers and fries,I don't gain weight. Me being skinny doesn't mean that I'm anorexic or that I'm trying to be. I honestly dream about having curves but I guess I'll have to be happy with my body. I get body shamed. I'm being called a 'stick' ,number '1' and sometimes a 'bamboo' or a 'praying mantis'.
We can never have the perfect body because the body we have right now is the perfect body for us... We're living in it,breathing in it. Embrace your beauty and love yourself.
After the fenty show, someone says vs is shaking
We all felt that now
Okay first off, their mistakes were Jenner, and Hadids. The people crying about this are the same people who DON'T buy Victoria Secret!!! Look what's going on with Abercrombie and Fitch! This why it's dying because, they are listening to fat, feminism who hate beautiful because they don't feel beautiful. Real customers always loved the show and always bought Victoria Secret. When I go to a VS store all I see is women from different races, shapes, and sizes . If it isn't broken don't fix it. Bring in real models not people like Jenner and the Hadids.
The biggest problem with VS is culture appropriation!
How, please explain
@@missme9650 literally just look it up
It wouldn’t be the same without Adriana anyways
I stopped shopping for bras at VS about 15 years ago. I decided to give them a try last week and I (or the lady in the dressing room) couldn't find a single bra that fit me right... Thank goodnessd for Aerie and H&M!
Will be missed ♥️
It was a fantasy and it wasn’t everyone’s fantasy, that was ok too 🙏🏻🌈
VS was known for having fit models and it should stay that way! This is sad... And it is soooo stupid you're comparing Bella on Fenty and on VSFS. She is posing, that is called a pose. Oh my god this us soo frustrating like wtf🤣
It's the basics of business 101, vs wasn't listening to their customers
Dear VS, don't change for the snowflakes please
I hope next year it comes back
There is a brand for each type of costumer, VS always was know for selling fantasy and luxury with skinny tall models. But now everything is about making everything for everyone because if you do something for an specific market other people will feel excluded. I extremely thin and tall (not because I wanted it, I was born this way) and I always saw the VS angels as role models, girls that looked like me but in a healthy way, and I always admired them and had the idea that If I world a little hard and gain that weight I could be like them.
Now the Fenty brand doesn’t represent me at all, the looks are to crazy and I should eat to my dead to look like one of those models, but I don’t hate it and want it to include skinny girls, I just watch it for fun ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I feel like the comment section is misunderstanding the problem. It isn't that a thin body is triggering, or that their hard work and effort isn't acknowledged it's that it's only celebrating ONE body type. There's plus size models who train just as hard to, there's trans models who have also worked just as hard. For victoria secret to say, we are marketing to only a select few is unfair, because EVERYONE IN ALL SHAPES SIZES BACKGROUNDS should have the right to see themselves represeted, should have the right to feel sexy. Victoria secret implying that ONLY thin girls are the vison is extremely harmful. It isn't that seeing these gorgeous women is offensive it's that, they make up a very small amount of the population genetics, lifestyle, backgrounds, so much goes into a persons body and fat and body types and we should be living in a world where all bodies are represented. It's 2019, these girls are beautiful, but so are plus size women, so are trans women, and that needs to be represtened
Lowkey feel like modeling isnt really a job anymore cuz everyone nowadays can be a model
We all saw it coming did we?
Literally all they had to do was add more diversity and chose to cancel instead what a joke
The Victoria secret fashion show always marks the beginning of Christmas for me. I have watched it every year for 10 years now. I am truly sad.
Theres absolutely no reason to compare a show like rihannas to the VS show. Theyve been doing this for 25 years and survived this long cause they followed the same procedures ever since. I feel like nowadays people think anyone can be a model and that display of skinny models personally attack them to be exactly like them or face discrimination. Its your own fault for being sensitive. If everyone can be a model, the professionals who actually sacrificed a lot for the modelling industry are completely discredited. Being a model is being fit and the winner of the genetic lottery. Thats literally the job description and if your’e against those requirements, dont try to change the career because you don’t fit in it and find one where you do fit.