For $87 -- that's not bad at all. I just priced out how much it would cost for me to add 16 GB of DDR4-3200 SODIMM RAM and a 500 GB WD NVMe SSD and it ended up being $163.47 USD vs. the ~$136 and change that they were charging. So, it's actually quite a good deal.
Thumbs up for the attitude. It would be interesting to see a long term stress test of some of these low cost boxes and Frankenstein boards. Running them under full load and then cooling again for 10,000 cycles or something but idk who has time for that.
I just bought an AMD powered box from this company and it's pretty good. Mine came with the proprietary SATA cable so I was able to install a SATA SSD in it as well. Nice to see that it seems this company makes decently designed and built devices.
Hmm, 3 of these and maybe a mod to the power adapter to convert to use USB power (instead of the very cheap looking power adapter) would be a pretty nice startup homelab. 3-node container cluster?
1:37 Just to let you know, that isn't C#, it's Java. C# Hello World would look like this: using System; namespace TexHooApp { class TexHoo { static void Main(string[] args) { Console.WriteLine("Hello World!"); } } } But just outputting Console.WriteLine("Hello World!"); should work as well.
All USB 3 ports are USB 3.2. The difference is what Gen, which can add value to a mini PC where ports may be Gen 2 and/or with video out and power with respect to USB-C. We didn;t get any indication of those front port specs. I liked that the barebone option came with the cover removed, which also seemed easy to attach and remove. The use of DDR4 2400 was concerning, when you factor in that the vast majority of N100 devices come with at least 3200. Whether this was all that was available to test or the limit for this board was uncertain. So as for value, it was difficult to fully assess because of the limited information.
Ys, I briefly mention it somewhere in the video, there's a proprietary connector for SATA, but I don't have their cable and don't know if they even sell that
It seems you looked on the wrong one on the website. QN Series(1.0G ETH) CPU: Intel Alder Lake N95/N100/N300/N305 Memory Types: DDR4 2400-3200Hz QN-Pro Series(2.5G ETH) CPU: Intel Alder Lake N95/N100/N300/N305 Memory Types: DDR5 4800Hz
I have a very similar mini that I recently picked up. Mine has the N95 processor. There isn't much difference. The N95 clocks a tiny bit higher, and has a much faster iGPU but, has less graphics compute units. So the graphics performance ends up being about the same. Mine came with 8GB DDR4 (both N95 & N100, being Alder lake, are "capable" of utilizing DDR5), it also has a 256GB M.2 with windows 11 home. It was $98 bucks on Amazon. I thought * goodness, the M.2 with Windows 11 on it is roughly worth the cost of the whole thing. Neat. Merry Christmas.
intel site says 16gb is the max. idk what you would need 32gb for this particular cpu though. Like, you're not gonna run a ton of vms on 4 cores or compile chromium either
@@shib5267 - Network attached storage sometimes uses a lot of RAM, depending on your configuration, and the CPU demands are pretty modest. You can upgrade the product in the video with a USB NIC that provides 2.5G, 5G, or even 10G ethernet, then attach multiple hard drives (up to 24 terabytes each) with a DAS. USB 3.2 has more than enough bandwidth for all of that. This approach does involve more cable clutter than a traditional NAS, but it's way more flexible and the cable clutter doesn't really matter if you're just shoving it into a closet.
@@tendosingh5682 - It's used for caching in the same manner as DRAM on a traditional hard drive (Yes, HDDs come with DRAM cache). This can drastically speed up the NAS as long as your activity stays within the limits of the cache, and there's really not an upper limit to how much RAM you can use besides the limits of the hardware itself.
It looks great, I wish you publish the video 2 weeks earlier. It looks like your video got a popularity , the current price is $103 already, so you did a great job.
On this machine the bottleneck isn't the drive but the connection it's just one PCIE 3 Lane. For full Gen 3 SSD drive performence it would have to be connected with 4 PCIE Lanes. You probably know this but for people who don't the m.2 NVME interface is just an other connector for PCIE So for a Gen 3 SSD full speed you need a m.2 NVME interface with 34PCIE 3 Lanes for Gen4 SSD you need a m.2 NVME interface with 4 PCIE 4 Lanes and for Gen5 you need a m.2 NVME interface with 4 PCIE 5 Lanes. So in short there is no NVME SSD on the market that isn't bottlenecked by just one PCI Gen 3 Lane. Get the cheapest that you trust.
@@johnafterdeath as I told you before there is no such thing as every SSD on the market is designed to use 4 Lanes. So just buy the cheapest one you trust to not be a fake.
It is not exactly cheap since there are multiple systems on ALiX for this price with similar specs (and for only a few dollars more with SSD & RAM - even if you pick the 128GB 8GB DDR4 RAM variant - it is just a regular price for these kind of pc's). I have a few of these systems N100 12GB DDR5 4000, N100 DDR4 16GB DDR4 3200 and a N97 16GB 3200. DDR5 makes a big difference.
tangential but like there's really no reason for game like that prince of persia that you played to not play at 60 fps on an N100. it's a 2.5D side-scroller, we've been making that for more than a decade, what could ubisoft cram in it that slows it down so?
Praise where it's due: the guys even exposed the FAN sensor. Attention to details.
For $87 -- that's not bad at all.
I just priced out how much it would cost for me to add 16 GB of DDR4-3200 SODIMM RAM and a 500 GB WD NVMe SSD and it ended up being $163.47 USD vs. the ~$136 and change that they were charging.
So, it's actually quite a good deal.
For Pete's sake, use a plastic spudger or guitar pic. Metal pry tools tend to damage plastic more, and are potentially bad news around electronics.
You are absolutely right, I just had that near me, grabbed it and started using it. Should have used a plastic pry tool
@@TechnicallyUnsuresinging example 😂😂 I also take whatever works and is close 😇
Yes - very expensive plastic 87 D for the whole kit - I could have used one of my old forks from the kitchen draw yes no problem 😴
I think its nice that N100 and similar systems are avail at this price. They are frankly great and a good option vs SBCs.
Thanks!
Thank you for the support
Thumbs up for the attitude. It would be interesting to see a long term stress test of some of these low cost boxes and Frankenstein boards. Running them under full load and then cooling again for 10,000 cycles or something but idk who has time for that.
I just bought an AMD powered box from this company and it's pretty good. Mine came with the proprietary SATA cable so I was able to install a SATA SSD in it as well. Nice to see that it seems this company makes decently designed and built devices.
I love the comment mocking. Happy xmas
Very capable device for the price point. Bonus teardown. Thanks for the review. All the best for 2025.
Huh! That looks like a sweet deal!
It is!
About the drive speed, pcie 3.0 x1 lane. Doesn't matter what drive u use it will be 800-900 MB/s. The N100 only has 9 pcie lanes for the whole system.
Useful for docker,etc
Hmm, 3 of these and maybe a mod to the power adapter to convert to use USB power (instead of the very cheap looking power adapter) would be a pretty nice startup homelab.
3-node container cluster?
1:37 Just to let you know, that isn't C#, it's Java. C# Hello World would look like this:
using System;
namespace TexHooApp {
class TexHoo {
static void Main(string[] args) {
Console.WriteLine("Hello World!");
}
}
}
But just outputting Console.WriteLine("Hello World!"); should work as well.
Thanks for pointing that out
Interesting for this price.
All USB 3 ports are USB 3.2. The difference is what Gen, which can add value to a mini PC where ports may be Gen 2 and/or with video out and power with respect to USB-C. We didn;t get any indication of those front port specs.
I liked that the barebone option came with the cover removed, which also seemed easy to attach and remove.
The use of DDR4 2400 was concerning, when you factor in that the vast majority of N100 devices come with at least 3200. Whether this was all that was available to test or the limit for this board was uncertain.
So as for value, it was difficult to fully assess because of the limited information.
The top lid appears to have a built in 2.5" Adapter for an SSD/HDD however i cant see any Sata or power connection on the board?
Ys, I briefly mention it somewhere in the video, there's a proprietary connector for SATA, but I don't have their cable and don't know if they even sell that
@@TechnicallyUnsure Yeah its odd that its not included, Great channel :)
Thank you!
It seems you looked on the wrong one on the website.
QN Series(1.0G ETH)
CPU: Intel Alder Lake N95/N100/N300/N305
Memory Types: DDR4 2400-3200Hz
QN-Pro Series(2.5G ETH)
CPU: Intel Alder Lake N95/N100/N300/N305
Memory Types: DDR5 4800Hz
You are right, thanks for the correction
I have a very similar mini that I recently picked up. Mine has the N95 processor. There isn't much difference. The N95 clocks a tiny bit higher, and has a much faster iGPU but, has less graphics compute units. So the graphics performance ends up being about the same. Mine came with 8GB DDR4 (both N95 & N100, being Alder lake, are "capable" of utilizing DDR5), it also has a 256GB M.2 with windows 11 home. It was $98 bucks on Amazon. I thought * goodness, the M.2 with Windows 11 on it is roughly worth the cost of the whole thing. Neat. Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas!
Numbering is weird. I expect n100 is better than n95 😂
You can get from a very reiliable sup with 12gb ddr5 and 512gb M2 ssd for 140$i like chuwi larkbox
That n100 PCIe limit is a real killer for NVMe performance.
Yea It's the Raspberry Pi 5 all over again.
Only finding this for $131 USD and that is barebones!
Have you seen the link in my video description?
@@TechnicallyUnsure I dont ever click on links like that but yes its showing for me ~88 now.
Cheaper than a Pi 5... there we have it :)
This is the perfect no-build hardware for all those emulation gamers I see leaving comments these days.
The listing says Dual Lan Mini Computer but the video shows a single??? Anyone order one of these?
qn10 is dual 2.5g, qn11 is single 1g, pics confirm.
Did you try running 32GB of ram? I have heard this works on some of the N100 mini pc's.
intel site says 16gb is the max. idk what you would need 32gb for this particular cpu though. Like, you're not gonna run a ton of vms on 4 cores or compile chromium either
@@shib5267 - Network attached storage sometimes uses a lot of RAM, depending on your configuration, and the CPU demands are pretty modest. You can upgrade the product in the video with a USB NIC that provides 2.5G, 5G, or even 10G ethernet, then attach multiple hard drives (up to 24 terabytes each) with a DAS. USB 3.2 has more than enough bandwidth for all of that. This approach does involve more cable clutter than a traditional NAS, but it's way more flexible and the cable clutter doesn't really matter if you're just shoving it into a closet.
@@arthurwintersight7868 NAS does not need much RAM unless your running other stuff like virtualization.
@@tendosingh5682 - It's used for caching in the same manner as DRAM on a traditional hard drive (Yes, HDDs come with DRAM cache). This can drastically speed up the NAS as long as your activity stays within the limits of the cache, and there's really not an upper limit to how much RAM you can use besides the limits of the hardware itself.
@shib5267 proxmox
Better check for malware and virus.
I ordered the twin 2.5G version immediately. This is cheap af
It looks great, I wish you publish the video 2 weeks earlier. It looks like your video got a popularity , the current price is $103 already, so you did a great job.
So did you order the dual Ethernet port model from the store page and get the single port model?
Nice
What's a good nvme drive to get that isn't going to get bottlenecked?
In my previous videos I was showing this and they had some discount, you can check it out www.amazon.com/dp/B0BNTFVVGD
On this machine the bottleneck isn't the drive but the connection it's just one PCIE 3 Lane. For full Gen 3 SSD drive performence it would have to be connected with 4 PCIE Lanes.
You probably know this but for people who don't the m.2 NVME interface is just an other connector for PCIE So for a Gen 3 SSD full speed you need a m.2 NVME interface with 34PCIE 3 Lanes for Gen4 SSD you need a m.2 NVME interface with 4 PCIE 4 Lanes and for Gen5 you need a m.2 NVME interface with 4 PCIE 5 Lanes.
So in short there is no NVME SSD on the market that isn't bottlenecked by just one PCI Gen 3 Lane. Get the cheapest that you trust.
@@DJDocsVideos Yeah i was asking the opposite. What drive should I buy so I don't buy a faster one that won't be utilized
@@johnafterdeath as I told you before there is no such thing as every SSD on the market is designed to use 4 Lanes. So just buy the cheapest one you trust to not be a fake.
Nice😮
wie kann ich die automatische übersetzung vom titel, beschreibung ausschalten?
It is not exactly cheap since there are multiple systems on ALiX for this price with similar specs (and for only a few dollars more with SSD & RAM - even if you pick the 128GB 8GB DDR4 RAM variant - it is just a regular price for these kind of pc's). I have a few of these systems N100 12GB DDR5 4000, N100 DDR4 16GB DDR4 3200 and a N97 16GB 3200. DDR5 makes a big difference.
Omfg the dual 2.5G version was so cheap
Sadly only available in the US and Japan it seems 😞
tangential but like there's really no reason for game like that prince of persia that you played to not play at 60 fps on an N100. it's a 2.5D side-scroller, we've been making that for more than a decade, what could ubisoft cram in it that slows it down so?
The cheapest option is 120$. Still cheap, but it is not 87.
Did you check the link in my video description?
I can only see 112,39 € on the link. I think the price dropped.
OK?
now is already 130$ :(
ok.
Oh look!! Another Minecraft server disguised as a block of e-waste!
Whiney, condescending.. This is the first of your videos I have seen... I hope all your videos aren't like this.