I love how us car guys think a 70 bhp increase or something like that isn't alot but your wife or girlfriend buys a car with that horsepower as standard and complains that its too fast 🤣
You didn't had to say you could feel it we could tell from your face :D Nice place to get it tuned, pretty sweet cars to checkout in the yard when there :)
Hi mate.The Rocketship is looking mint.Can't wait to see it at the nurburgring when you get the chance.432 bhp is serious territory.Can't wait to see the 0 to 60 times now also.It seems like a absolute slingshot monster.Must be sub 4 seconds now.Stay safe mate.👍👍👍
You’d need to spend nearly 10x the amount to get the same gains in the z4 (fitting a SC).. i know because I keep looking. Turbo’d cars can give real gains for not a lot.
What’s the price for the stage 1 Joel if I may ask? I think it looks worth the money if it can offer that degree of grin! The increase in power of the M lite cars from just a simple tune and no intercooler or turbo mods is really impressive!
Ahhh now you have me wanting to map my M140......I owned a gtr and had litchfield map that for me. Amazing place and a superb map also. The car never missed a beat. Might have to buy myself a Christmas present
When I first got my stage 1 my hands and legs were shaking for at least 2 hours lmao.stg1 really transforms the car,but I'm used to this shit now.Stage 2 and quaife lsd next
Can I ask why you were hoping for 450bhp from a stage one map? Most cars only see 30-50 bhp increase on stage 1 so 77 bhp is a brilliant result. You need to be a tad more realistic with your expectations 😉
Litchfield quote 435hp, and I’ve had the quicksilver exhaust which is quoted as adding 16hp - that’s why I was “hoping for 450” - but I’m more than happy haha
Yes Joel! Mental power now for such a little car. Very curious to what it will make with a stage 2 and all the relevant hardware. Though perhaps get the most you can out of stage 1 before going to stage 2. I now speak from experience when I say that lol. The smile on your face and the reaction says it all. It's all about that feeling the car gives you and it certainly looks like it gives you a massive high. Time for some dragy numbers!
Ha ha! Loved that look on your face experiencing it for the first time. Oh, and that looked like about 4secs or less 0-60. Very interested to see that properly measured soon.
@@itsjoel the Z4 is NA so would only get 10-15 bhp increase however you would notice the better throttle response. I'm currently getting my Z4 turbo'd amongst several other mods and going for about 600 bhp.
You’re mentioning horsepower but torque is more important than horsepower, and I don’t understand why you didn’t go for stage 2? I think going stage 1 is a waste of money
Hi Joel, I’ve followed you since you had your m240i. I’m going to litchfield soon to get mine remapped. Did you do anything to the car before the map? Like upgraded the brakes and discs etc?
@@itsjoel I don't mean to be rude asking you this question. But what year and price did you pay? I'm considering picking one up with very low miles. Thanks, Joel.
His Z4 is NA is stands to gain very little from a stage 1 map. He would have to supercharge or turbo and as someone going through that right now it's not cheap.
Agree with Martin there, you’d have to put thousands into the Z4 to get a 80hp increase. I’d sooner by a Z4M. Having said that, it’s nice having the Z4 as it is, it’s got just the right amount of power that you can use all the time
That's fair enough. I have thought about going for a Stage 1 upgrade on my Z4M but after doing some research, it appears that the maximum power uplift that is possible is only about 15bhp.
After watching this, the speedo (Lol) and already knowing Litchfield were superb ... I am looking at my X3 M40i going there for a remap ! It is them, DMS or JF Automotive ... one of them will, I am sure, breathe more life into my X3 ... 4wd and 420 ish bhp should be great fun. Insurance sorted ... just need to book it in somewhere !
I need to find a shop in LA that does a map like this. Can you light the tires up from a standstill pretty easy? When I put more grip on the stock power I can’t really break out the 240 as much
FYI you had closer to 90 to 95 hp increase. The more power you make the more diminishing returns u have. What fuel did you have in the car? You may be able to gain a few more hp still.
@@derekporter66 635nm from a standard engine with just an ecu tune ? They have over exaggerated those figures to make you happy, not a chance you get anywhere near that torque without mods. The bhp is about right, as 420bhp is the absolute mechanical maximum for just an ecu tune, but not a chance on the torque figure.
@@derekporter66 Mate, I am honestly not trying to put your car down, they are brilliant cars, I absolutely love mine. Some companies deliberately use tricks to inflate the figures, so that people will go to them as they think more is better, especially dyno companies. Mechanically, a stock B58 simply can't produce more than 420bhp, it's just not scientifically possible. And anywhere near 600nm is definitely not real, from just a remap. Hell, I have a 200m cell cat, ITG air filter, and mine only dyno'd at 634nm ... but that was on a very accurate dyno, properly strapped down (so no roller riding to increase the figures), ambient air temps and intake temps both shown on the readout to prove no miscalculation, and with a conservative correction ratio. It's so easy to get higher figures, but it's not real. There is a video on RUclips, from a technician, who gets over 500bhp from a remap, but it's just all tricks and bs, but the readout says 500bhp lol some mug would believe that.
Where did you get those fender M badges? The little small ones on the front side fenders? I didn't think the M240 came with them. They don't in the US.
@@itsjoel Post a draggy result up mate. Not a chance your car does 0-60 in sub 4 seconds. My M140i is 455bhp/634nm and struggles to get 4.5 secs to 60, and I have not seen any others get close to 4 seconds in real tests. unless they are XDrive models.
@@itsjoel ive done it done it myself its pretty easy , get xhp software and mhd to go into your obd port and connect with your phone it really does transform the car with that extra clamping force now that you have more power .👍
@@itsjoel I got a decades worth of exp in auto industry. only way to "void" your warranty is thru totaling your car, and even then recalls are still to be serviced on your vehicle.
@@theendangeredpetrolhead I was speaking to a BMW master tech about this. If a customer trade in has been tuned, they cannot sell it on their forecourt and have to auction it. Whether or not it's easy for them to find out save for being told by the customer themselves, I have no idea as I didn't ask that. As for voiding warranties, I always assumed it would but I've never clarified that.
@@64bakes it’s pretty easy for them to check it. If you go in for something big like an engine issue, there is a 99.9% chance they will look for it and find it.
@@itsjoel wow that's really inexpensive compared to Dinan thank you. I just bought a 2021 m240i xdrive I'm just worried about my new car warranty with going with stage 1. Don't know if it's a risky move or not wouldn't want to lose my coverage!
Sorry but your figures were over exaggerated by Litchfield. 356bhp stock is high, and 432bhp from just a remap is also high. Maximum *real* power for a standard B58 with no mods is 420bhp tops. Did you go any further down the tuning route ? My M140i has a 200 cell cat and ITG air filter, and the XHP3 g/box software, it's pretty savage now.
You have no idea what you are talking about. A bootmod 3 93+ octane stage one will give 440bhp. Stage 2 with a downpipe approx 460bhp and stick the HPFP on and you will get approx 490. Have a custom tune you are looking at 510bhp crank. 356bhp stock is normal and I'd expect higher. They are quoted whp.
@@TeacherToolkitDemo I work in the motor trade, I know exactly what I'm talking about. I can show you a video where a standard M140i made over 500BHP from just a remap. Of course, it's complete bullshit, but it's possible for anyone to give a customer a dyno graph which has this figure on it. Just because some clowns believe anything tuners tell them, does not make it accurate or in any way truth. Nobody can say what a certain map will give a certain car, least of all you, there are too many variables, and if you work in the motor trade like me, you would know that if you dyno the same car, on the same dyno, on the same day, 5 times, you will see 5 different results. BHP cannot be measured, only calculated from the torque which CAN be measured. And even then, it varies with every run depending on intake temps, traction on the dyno, fuelling, timing, and a dozen other variables. Max true bhp from a B58 engine remap is about 420, it is scientifically impossible to get more out of an unopened, completely standard B58 engine, and if you don't understand that, I suggest you give up trying to argue against real science because you obviously don't understand as much as I do.
@@TeacherToolkitDemo If you believe everything anyone tells you, then crack on son. I'll stick to facts, and science thanks. You carry on believing 'bro science' kid, lol !
![How Much Power Does My Stock BMW M240i Really Make? [Not What I Was Expecting]](/img/1.gif)
Can’t believe the power difference in the way it feels! Should I take it further?
Yes 👍🏻
Go further 😄
100%
Go XHP tcu tune to remove the torque limiters on the gearbox
Is that even a question ? 😄
I love how us car guys think a 70 bhp increase or something like that isn't alot but your wife or girlfriend buys a car with that horsepower as standard and complains that its too fast 🤣
So true 😂
Yea 70 BHP is a good bump. You’ll definitely feel it and so will the tires 😅
I had to giggle with you when you excelerated first time :D
It was so much fun
Surprised he wouldn’t think 78 additional horses wouldn’t feel different...that’s a huge power increase
Wow! The grin on your face tells the whole story better than naked figures. Litchfield has a good reputation too. Great video as always.
Agreed that smile was real, you could see the child within 😀. Now Joel just try not to get to excited and end up getting pulled over for speeding.
Hehehe I was genuinely shocked and excited by it! :)
2 hour drive home? You may want to allow your self 4 hours to allow for fuel and tyre stops!
You didn't had to say you could feel it we could tell from your face :D
Nice place to get it tuned, pretty sweet cars to checkout in the yard when there :)
Hi mate.The Rocketship is looking mint.Can't wait to see it at the nurburgring when you get the chance.432 bhp is serious territory.Can't wait to see the 0 to 60 times now also.It seems like a absolute slingshot monster.Must be sub 4 seconds now.Stay safe mate.👍👍👍
You’d need to spend nearly 10x the amount to get the same gains in the z4 (fitting a SC).. i know because I keep looking. Turbo’d cars can give real gains for not a lot.
My son just purchased an 18’ M240i. I believe it’s the same color scheme as yours.
He loves it.
What’s the price for the stage 1 Joel if I may ask? I think it looks worth the money if it can offer that degree of grin! The increase in power of the M lite cars from just a simple tune and no intercooler or turbo mods is really impressive!
I think it’s £500.00. Definitely worth the cash in my opinion
As u said mate nurburgring but I think more interesting would be the autobahn top speed if u willing to go that far.
Yeah definitely would like to see how fast it’ll go
Ahhh now you have me wanting to map my M140......I owned a gtr and had litchfield map that for me. Amazing place and a superb map also. The car never missed a beat. Might have to buy myself a Christmas present
When I first got my stage 1 my hands and legs were shaking for at least 2 hours lmao.stg1 really transforms the car,but I'm used to this shit now.Stage 2 and quaife lsd next
M4 Pads, disc, hoses next.. air intake (beg evolve lol)
Hi man, I hate to be that guy, but does a stage one also include fuel economy or is that a myth? :)
Can I ask why you were hoping for 450bhp from a stage one map? Most cars only see 30-50 bhp increase on stage 1 so 77 bhp is a brilliant result. You need to be a tad more realistic with your expectations 😉
Litchfield quote 435hp, and I’ve had the quicksilver exhaust which is quoted as adding 16hp - that’s why I was “hoping for 450” - but I’m more than happy haha
Yes Joel! Mental power now for such a little car. Very curious to what it will make with a stage 2 and all the relevant hardware. Though perhaps get the most you can out of stage 1 before going to stage 2. I now speak from experience when I say that lol.
The smile on your face and the reaction says it all. It's all about that feeling the car gives you and it certainly looks like it gives you a massive high. Time for some dragy numbers!
Definitely massively improves the fun factor
The smile says it all, haha.
😃😃😃
Top man Tom is
Your car now has more power than a Porsche 996 turbo to put it into perspective....
Yeah it’s crazy!
bro u got money get rid of that mole asap.thank me later
Thats a big increase in power, dont get a ticket ENJOY.
Whats the 0 to 60
3.6s
I like how the car park has Ferraris,gtr, Porsches and then there's a random Micra
Hahah so true! I guess they love a bit of everything at Litchfield 😂
Ha ha! Loved that look on your face experiencing it for the first time. Oh, and that looked like about 4secs or less 0-60. Very interested to see that properly measured soon.
We should put it up against that amazing R8 of yours! 🤪
@@itsjoel challenge accepted 😛
Wasn’t as embarrassing as I thought 😂😂
Thanks for helping out with the video
@@itsjoel no worries mate 👍🏼
Great great great! Z4 for stage 1 as next step? 😃
Not sure I’d quite get a 22% return 😂
@@itsjoel the Z4 is NA so would only get 10-15 bhp increase however you would notice the better throttle response.
I'm currently getting my Z4 turbo'd amongst several other mods and going for about 600 bhp.
You’re mentioning horsepower but torque is more important than horsepower, and I don’t understand why you didn’t go for stage 2? I think going stage 1 is a waste of money
What is the name of those alloys you have? Very nice.
How fun is it when you pick your car up after a tune or new exhaust
So fun : )
Timed your launch to 0-60 it was like 3.4-6 seconds super impressive !
seeing that grin makes me want one...
Hi Joel, I’ve followed you since you had your m240i. I’m going to litchfield soon to get mine remapped. Did you do anything to the car before the map? Like upgraded the brakes and discs etc?
Jesus 432bhp is pretty damn good, my 240 was stock 356bhp after a stage 1 its at 437bhp 670nm👍🏻
I got an m235i yday I can't wait to try this stuff
Has that n55 treated you well I heard that the chargepipe runs out pretty quick on those
Man-O-Man, Joel...You have one hell of a car!!!
Thanks dude!
@@itsjoel I don't mean to be rude asking you this question. But what year and price did you pay? I'm considering picking one up with very low miles. Thanks, Joel.
The way the speedo moves at the start 😮
It’s no joke 😂
How about getting a Stage 1 upgrade on your Z4?
His Z4 is NA is stands to gain very little from a stage 1 map. He would have to supercharge or turbo and as someone going through that right now it's not cheap.
Agree with Martin there, you’d have to put thousands into the Z4 to get a 80hp increase. I’d sooner by a Z4M. Having said that, it’s nice having the Z4 as it is, it’s got just the right amount of power that you can use all the time
That's fair enough. I have thought about going for a Stage 1 upgrade on my Z4M but after doing some research, it appears that the maximum power uplift that is possible is only about 15bhp.
Still got stock cats?
After watching this, the speedo (Lol) and already knowing Litchfield were superb ... I am looking at my X3 M40i going there for a remap ! It is them, DMS or JF Automotive ... one of them will, I am sure, breathe more life into my X3 ... 4wd and 420 ish bhp should be great fun. Insurance sorted ... just need to book it in somewhere !
that banana as smile means everything !
It's more impressive in three figure speeds though as you've probably found out. The speedo needle just sweeps round at a constant rate 😁
I wouldn’t possibly know
I need to find a shop in LA that does a map like this. Can you light the tires up from a standstill pretty easy? When I put more grip on the stock power I can’t really break out the 240 as much
Yeah it’ll light the tires up no problem, it struggles to get all the power down most of the time now haha
Isn't that just off the power of a M2 CS? That is pretty good! Your smile tells it all!
Yeah off by 10bhp but I have more torque, so in a straight line there would be no difference
who did the math, its 17.8% not 21.7%.
Joel's like a blend of Partridge and Clarkson lol.
😂😂😂
FYI you had closer to 90 to 95 hp increase. The more power you make the more diminishing returns u have. What fuel did you have in the car? You may be able to gain a few more hp still.
Thanks to you I had to buy an M240i 🙂 MHD Stage 1 with an MPE upgrade.
What wheels you got?
My stage 1 evolve tune had 421 hp and 635nm surrey rolling Road.
Very nice
@@itsjoel would be good to see a roll to see differences.
@@derekporter66 635nm from a standard engine with just an ecu tune ?
They have over exaggerated those figures to make you happy, not a chance you get anywhere near that torque without mods.
The bhp is about right, as 420bhp is the absolute mechanical maximum for just an ecu tune, but not a chance on the torque figure.
@@DjNikGnashers srr are meant to be independent. No idea
@@derekporter66 Mate, I am honestly not trying to put your car down, they are brilliant cars, I absolutely love mine.
Some companies deliberately use tricks to inflate the figures, so that people will go to them as they think more is better, especially dyno companies.
Mechanically, a stock B58 simply can't produce more than 420bhp, it's just not scientifically possible.
And anywhere near 600nm is definitely not real, from just a remap.
Hell, I have a 200m cell cat, ITG air filter, and mine only dyno'd at 634nm ... but that was on a very accurate dyno, properly strapped down (so no roller riding to increase the figures), ambient air temps and intake temps both shown on the readout to prove no miscalculation, and with a conservative correction ratio.
It's so easy to get higher figures, but it's not real.
There is a video on RUclips, from a technician, who gets over 500bhp from a remap, but it's just all tricks and bs, but the readout says 500bhp lol some mug would believe that.
Thats awesome! It's all about torque and acceleration, can't go fast anywhere in this country without losing your license
Nope, I’m gonna have to be very careful. Would like to take it to Germany as soon as possible
Deffo a map where you feel it most mid range, 78gbhp from just a map is very solid
What is it you do for a living? Seems like you have infinite cash, love the car though!
I wish that were true! I do freelance producer work and obviously earn from RUclips too
what exhaust mods had been done at this time?
Have a 987 and looking at chopping in to do this - 432 bhp is mental
Where did you get those fender M badges? The little small ones on the front side fenders? I didn't think the M240 came with them. They don't in the US.
They came with the car here in the uk
i love it when it catapults you my n54 does that :)
I have to say your seat position is really unique:D
🔥👌
What front splitter do you have? Is it the R44 one?
That looked like a 0-60 in 3.5 seconds. That’s almost a full second faster than factory
Hundredths of a second aside even if it came in at 4 dead it’s a properly quick car.
Think I timed it frame by frame in the edit, and was about 3.9 to 62. Ridiculous
@@itsjoel Post a draggy result up mate.
Not a chance your car does 0-60 in sub 4 seconds.
My M140i is 455bhp/634nm and struggles to get 4.5 secs to 60, and I have not seen any others get close to 4 seconds in real tests. unless they are XDrive models.
@nik better tyres+lsd?
Enjoy your vids Joel. Your a cool kid..
Has the exhaust and remap made your insurance go up much?
Think it increased by around £300 after declaring those mods
@@itsjoel not bad then
great video Joel. whats the phone holder you are using?
Thanks buddy! It’s a megamount
great video, thats insane acceleration
Just curious how all of these mods affected insurance?
Increased it by about £300 from memory
@@itsjoel have you got modified insurance or have you just declared them on a normal policy?
Congrats bro cars sweet
Xhp gearbox flash now?
Would like to yes
@@itsjoel ive done it done it myself its pretty easy , get xhp software and mhd to go into your obd port and connect with your phone it really does transform the car with that extra clamping force now that you have more power .👍
Nice sleeper
How longs does this remapping last?
Thanks for sharing
I got my M240 a month ago and I went with MHD, added a DP & intake. The B58 is amazing! Hopefully sometime next year I can go with pure 800’s
It’s so tuneable!
@@itsjoel yes, some people already have some pushing 1,000HP. My goal is only to reach the 600’s
Jesus christ.. what flavour are your lips they look like chrisps at 5:40
did this tune void your warranty?
Yes I’m pretty sure it would do
@@itsjoel I got a decades worth of exp in auto industry. only way to "void" your warranty is thru totaling your car, and even then recalls are still to be serviced on your vehicle.
Most dealers will blacklist your car if they find that it’s been tuned, even tho they’re not supposed to
@@theendangeredpetrolhead I was speaking to a BMW master tech about this. If a customer trade in has been tuned, they cannot sell it on their forecourt and have to auction it. Whether or not it's easy for them to find out save for being told by the customer themselves, I have no idea as I didn't ask that. As for voiding warranties, I always assumed it would but I've never clarified that.
@@64bakes it’s pretty easy for them to check it. If you go in for something big like an engine issue, there is a 99.9% chance they will look for it and find it.
What did this cost in US dollars? Thank you trying to decide on what brand!
About $750
@@itsjoel wow that's really inexpensive compared to Dinan thank you. I just bought a 2021 m240i xdrive I'm just worried about my new car warranty with going with stage 1. Don't know if it's a risky move or not wouldn't want to lose my coverage!
@@germanengineering204 I just picked up my 2021 M240i a couple of weeks ago. I’m loooooving it and am thinking of the stage I myself!
It’s pretty remarkable to be able to get such a massive power increase for a relatively small amount of cash
dork face :)))
how much more is your insurance with the stage 1?
Some things they just dont need to know mate
Sorry but your figures were over exaggerated by Litchfield.
356bhp stock is high, and 432bhp from just a remap is also high. Maximum *real* power for a standard B58 with no mods is 420bhp tops.
Did you go any further down the tuning route ?
My M140i has a 200 cell cat and ITG air filter, and the XHP3 g/box software, it's pretty savage now.
You have no idea what you are talking about. A bootmod 3 93+ octane stage one will give 440bhp. Stage 2 with a downpipe approx 460bhp and stick the HPFP on and you will get approx 490. Have a custom tune you are looking at 510bhp crank. 356bhp stock is normal and I'd expect higher. They are quoted whp.
@@TeacherToolkitDemo I work in the motor trade, I know exactly what I'm talking about.
I can show you a video where a standard M140i made over 500BHP from just a remap.
Of course, it's complete bullshit, but it's possible for anyone to give a customer a dyno graph which has this figure on it.
Just because some clowns believe anything tuners tell them, does not make it accurate or in any way truth.
Nobody can say what a certain map will give a certain car, least of all you, there are too many variables, and if you work in the motor trade like me, you would know that if you dyno the same car, on the same dyno, on the same day, 5 times, you will see 5 different results.
BHP cannot be measured, only calculated from the torque which CAN be measured. And even then, it varies with every run depending on intake temps, traction on the dyno, fuelling, timing, and a dozen other variables.
Max true bhp from a B58 engine remap is about 420, it is scientifically impossible to get more out of an unopened, completely standard B58 engine, and if you don't understand that, I suggest you give up trying to argue against real science because you obviously don't understand as much as I do.
@@DjNikGnashers damn that's some essay 🤣. They make what I said they make. You are talking nonsense.
@@TeacherToolkitDemo If you believe everything anyone tells you, then crack on son.
I'll stick to facts, and science thanks.
You carry on believing 'bro science' kid, lol !
@@DjNikGnashers How can your M140i have 455bhp if 420bhp is the limit? Are you a real scientist? 🥴.
That plate is awful im sorry 😂