I Fixed Jupiter Ascending (You're Welcome?)

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  • Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
  • MANY FLASHING LIGHTS WARNING, Jupiter Ascending is a flashy-light nightmare. The first 1000 people to use the link will get a free trial of Skillshare Premium Membership: skl.sh/jillbea...
    Yup, I tried to fix (by various means) the many, many action scenes in Jupiter Ascending. You're welcome? We analyse the major fights, do a breakdown of what is and isn't working, and then cut them out, cut them down, or fix them up in some other way.
    #jupiterascending #fightscenefix
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  • @PaulThronson
    @PaulThronson 3 года назад +795

    "... It is Sean Bean, we could just kill him off" ... Very nice

    • @Xiph1980
      @Xiph1980 3 года назад +8

      It's a ringer.... 😂

    • @DarkExcalibur42
      @DarkExcalibur42 3 года назад +11

      I laughed out loud at work when I heard that.

    • @ladyelbinine
      @ladyelbinine 3 года назад +32

      By keeping him alive she actually followed what me and my friends have noticed is the unofficial rule of Sean Bean, his chance of surviving a movie is directly in proportion to the length of his hair. If he is sporting short hair he tends to live, if he has long hair death is just waiting for its moment to grab him.

    • @bradfordreed6175
      @bradfordreed6175 3 года назад +12

      The *exact* moment I went to check the comments to see how others reacted. I feel so connected with part of humanity right now.

    • @chadfalardeau5396
      @chadfalardeau5396 3 года назад +3

      Thats why Richard Sharpe never died

  • @MsLinaTina
    @MsLinaTina 3 года назад +661

    "Killed by falling plot" is probably my favorite line. I often speak of plot as an object or force when discussing movies with friends. So I liked hearing someone else do it too.

    • @LuckPuddle
      @LuckPuddle 3 года назад +17

      Rock falls, everyone dies is a classic D&D reference :)

    • @tlaoltjenbruns9580
      @tlaoltjenbruns9580 3 года назад +10

      I always say "because plot" when someone/friends complain over a poorly developed narrative in a movie.
      Why does the male lead fail there? Because plot.
      Why can't this one defeat the baddie even though they'll beat them later without a training montage? Because plot.
      Why do female and male lead have to suck face with an explosion in the background? Because plot.

    • @Etern1tyOne
      @Etern1tyOne 3 года назад +8

      I also loved that turn of phrase, but simultaneously imagined a large plot of land (as in agricultural land) landing on him 😅

    • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
      @Allan_aka_RocKITEman 3 года назад +3

      Sort of like what the _The Critical Drinker_ says, should have worn _"plot armor"._
      😊😊😊

    • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
      @Allan_aka_RocKITEman 3 года назад +3

      @@Etern1tyOne >>> They _unearthed_ it...😉

  • @matthewmcneany
    @matthewmcneany 3 года назад +270

    I want: "I don't need to be cognisant of your mundane frame of reference" on a T-shirt or Mug

  • @michaelcartmell7428
    @michaelcartmell7428 3 года назад +289

    "Let" "Sean Bean" "Survive"
    I know what each of those words mean, but all together, in that order, it's just gibberish.

    • @Quandry1
      @Quandry1 3 года назад +25

      It's just not Sean Bean if his characters don't die in his movies. It's like horror movies without atmosphere and proper tension. it just doesn't work.

    • @Namoraslife
      @Namoraslife 3 года назад +7

      Well he didn't die in "national treasure"...

    • @lennoxwilliamsart7387
      @lennoxwilliamsart7387 5 месяцев назад

      @@Quandry1 he didn't die in not one, but two horror movies and a crime film despite being poisoned. Sooo ... what do we make out of that?

  • @richardlawson5929
    @richardlawson5929 3 года назад +140

    I think my favorite part of this whole video is, "-and the... char... ac...ters?"

  • @neo.noni.
    @neo.noni. 3 года назад +414

    I can't believe I forgot Sean Bean's character was part Bee

    • @JillBearup
      @JillBearup  3 года назад +175

      Let’s bee real, there was a lot going on. 🐝

    • @ladyscarlette6289
      @ladyscarlette6289 3 года назад +79

      I can't beelieve that I forgot Sean Been was in this movie, period.

    • @maxximumb
      @maxximumb 3 года назад +49

      @@JillBearup Oh beehive with all the puns.

    • @ladyscarlette6289
      @ladyscarlette6289 3 года назад +31

      @@maxximumb honey, I need help with the sting of all these puns.

    • @forgottenfamily
      @forgottenfamily 3 года назад +7

      Did it ever come back up in the movie?

  • @ambitionharmonies1038
    @ambitionharmonies1038 3 года назад +202

    Not really a good movie but the costume design is *chef's kiss*

  • @Hofstetter17
    @Hofstetter17 3 года назад +303

    As you kept fixing (as much as anyone can) what is wrong with Jupiter Ascending, I really appreciated how you seemed to become more and more frazzled, culminating in tea. I thought it was a nice touch and it made me smile.

    • @JillBearup
      @JillBearup  3 года назад +105

      I did not intend for my hair to become increasingly Hermione as we went on, but I think it fit quite well 🤣

    • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
      @Allan_aka_RocKITEman 3 года назад +7

      @@JillBearup >>> Must have been THE ONE DAY in the UK where the _humidity_ actually became significant...😉
      {BTW, I was born and raised in Florida, where LACK OF HUMIDITY is sometimes a portent of an impending apocalypse...😊}

  • @journeyofawesome8473
    @journeyofawesome8473 3 года назад +114

    Continuity call out: How Jill's hair becomes unkept as the video progresses and the process takes it's toll

    • @iprobablyforgotsomething
      @iprobablyforgotsomething 3 года назад +12

      Much like the devolving state of Peter Jackson's hair throughout the filming of the trilogy(ies), as seen in the BtS vids.
      Sadly, though, while LotR took 3 films worth of organized chaos to ruffle PJ's hair, it took only this one film's unorganized chaos to achieve the same end here. My condolences, brave youtuber. We're just glad you survived.

    • @psychologymajorptsd62
      @psychologymajorptsd62 3 года назад +2

      It’s to show her growing insanity at fixing the move

  • @Soupie62
    @Soupie62 3 года назад +106

    Your line "and the characters?" Reminds me of when I worked as a projectionist. As a projectionist, you cannot leave, no matter how bad, unless the entire audience walks out.
    And hoo boy, Wild At Heart by David Lynch was a stinker.
    It had: the roof of a dance hall, a match being lit in slow motion, a hand clutching a sheet, the wizard of Oz, and Elvis impersonation.
    So overloaded with symbolism, you get the feeling shooting ended before anyone had the courage to ask "and the plot...?"

    • @Marveryn
      @Marveryn 3 года назад +8

      you must had work the booth before my time. I was up to 9 screeens and we needed to leave to start the other projectors. So must had been around when cig marks were needed to start a new projector on time as film were not put together into one reel when i was around. I only needed to check the film every so often to be sure the sound was working right. which was the start of the film after trailers and every so often to be sure stuff like someone putting one reel upside stuff or a bad splice wasn't a issue. normally that was stuff that happen within the first couple of showing that had to be correct and later in the week there normally no issue. Oh and of course light bulb going out.

    • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
      @Allan_aka_RocKITEman 3 года назад +6

      @@Marveryn >>> The light bulb going out?
      Would that make it a _dark comedy?_ 😉

  • @NicolaeHolley
    @NicolaeHolley 3 года назад +349

    I recently had a discussion about B-movies and their potential to be good, and someone mentioned this movie, but I think this movie suffers from the fatal flaw of TRYING to be an A-movie but ending up as a B-movie, rather than just embracing the things that make B-movies good and therefore being enjoyable on a B-movie level.
    Great video, though. I'd be interested to see someone whose professional job is video editing try to do a mockup of the changes you suggested, with either storyboards like you did or amateur actors filling in the scenes you completely rewrite.

    • @l0stndamned
      @l0stndamned 3 года назад +30

      A valid point. Haven't seen the film itself in full, but from what I can understand from this vid and various reviews I feel a bit more camp and a willingness to make fun at its own expense would have made it far more entertaining.

    • @xylypotatohead3947
      @xylypotatohead3947 3 года назад +3

      @@l0stndamned tbh it's really enjoyable if one doesn't take it too seriously

    • @jessicastein5155
      @jessicastein5155 3 года назад +14

      I feel like Eddie Redmayne knew he was in a B Movie and just went all-in

    • @IsaacIsaacIsaacson
      @IsaacIsaacIsaacson 3 года назад +8

      The funny part is that its by the same directors as the Matrix (which Jill used as an example of better fight scenes) and had a $200 million dollar budget. I really don't know what went wrong

    • @tamlandipper29
      @tamlandipper29 2 года назад +8

      The failure of this film is not trying too hard. It is not trying hard enough. It reaches for things then gives up having failed. Like a soft spoken bad guy, who you cannot hear. Or an action space princess who does not actually take any actions and might as well be an inanimate macguffin.
      Good b movies also try and fail. They fail amusingly because we can see what they did wrong. Like a toy prop gun that floats, or a leading man who scowls like a toddler.
      The problem here, like the star wars add ons, is that the failures aren't instantly obvious. They come through slowly, like a bad smell on your linguine.

  • @theoneandonlymichaelmccormick
    @theoneandonlymichaelmccormick 3 года назад +161

    “See also the Last Airbender”. Yeah, that’s probably the only way that the Last Airbender made something DARKER.

    • @adisonlandon9883
      @adisonlandon9883 3 года назад +19

      How can we see a movie that doesn't exist?

    • @blah7983
      @blah7983 3 года назад +16

      @@adisonlandon9883 Ah I see you have been to Lake Lao Gai!

    • @kevingooley9628
      @kevingooley9628 3 года назад +10

      @@blah7983 There is no M Night Shamalyan movie in Ba Sing Se

    • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
      @Allan_aka_RocKITEman 3 года назад +3

      So you are saying it would be GOOD for *THE LAST AIRBENDER* to go to _The Dark Side?_ 😉

  • @VampyricDoge14
    @VampyricDoge14 3 года назад +578

    So, if I'm ever making a movie, I'm definitely hiring you as stunt coordinator.

    • @andrewxc1335
      @andrewxc1335 3 года назад +21

      She’ll definitely not be afraid to give you her opinion.

    • @pteppig
      @pteppig 2 года назад +1

      "Yes Jill, that sounds reasonable, but it's not in the budget, were still in season 1"

  • @footlong7980
    @footlong7980 3 года назад +46

    Hearing a run-through of the plot of Jupiter Ascending just makes me realize how much it sounds like a Wattpad story.

    • @SiiriRebane
      @SiiriRebane 7 месяцев назад

      i don't know what a Wattpad is, but from context i guess it means nothing good. gosh, what an utter hogwash this movie is. did not see it, only know from this vid here, and wikipedia, and am happy. feel sorry for mila kunis. she's not soooo bad actress, is she?

  • @jptata3161
    @jptata3161 3 года назад +91

    "Expensive and time consuming and it does not look good" - I feel like this pretty much sums up the whole movie.

    • @bagman817
      @bagman817 3 года назад +4

      To be fair, there were a lot of scenes that looked fantastic. It's just that, for the most part, those scenes didn't have people in them.

  • @jasonblalock4429
    @jasonblalock4429 3 года назад +26

    Man, every time I reflect on Jupiter Ascending, my brain melts. It's not just that it's so fundamentally broken in so many glaringly obvious ways, but that it's from filmmakers *who know better.* That's what I don't get. The Wachowskis understand how to tell a good story. They understand how to use clever editing in service to the film. They understand how to make amazing action scenes. They understand how to write... reasonably interesting characters. HOW DID THIS MESS HAPPEN? It's like they literally took crazy pills and forgot how to movie.

  • @galenpemberton4382
    @galenpemberton4382 3 года назад +236

    Thought this was going to be about how the directors could have deleted the movie from their computers but this is cool too

    • @ptonpc
      @ptonpc 3 года назад +11

      That would have spared us all.

    • @RamonInNZ
      @RamonInNZ 2 года назад +1

      Wonder how much fiddling Warner Bros executives did....

  • @dess_greenwood1081
    @dess_greenwood1081 3 года назад +38

    I know that Jupiter Ascending is a peculiar flavor, but I genuinely enjoy. Even so, I have always wanted to ‘fix’ certain plot lines, visuals, the incessant rescuing by Kane 😅 ... so thank you for making this video. It was very well done with a fine mix of humor and serious critique.

    • @rowanwax
      @rowanwax 3 года назад +4

      I think I like it so much because I took a class in college specifically about fairytales and how their plots flow. There's the three times the heroine has to face the same but slightly different challenge, where the logic of the world is less important than the emotion and story, and where they reversed the usual ending of such plots. The drama acting I loved. Zorg is just as over the top a villain, and yet people love him? Idk. I kinda hope this movie gets a remake some day to buff out it's rough edges, but I don't think that's going to happen. :/

    • @theleakypen8662
      @theleakypen8662 2 года назад +1

      @@rowanwax THANK YOU YES Jupiter Ascending is a woman-centered Fifth Element and Eddie Redmayne's character is its Zorg

    • @StonedtotheBones13
      @StonedtotheBones13 2 года назад

      Thinking back on it, I enjoyed watching it... But not enough to ever really do it again. I really would've appreciated like... Any development of Jupiter's character if they ever give it another go. Like I'm glad Caine got his wings back and all, but Jupiter herself doesn't actually... Do much. Which ig can be a personality, but feels like a waste of Mila Kunis' talent tbh.

  • @canebro1
    @canebro1 3 года назад +62

    I love this video. I found Jupiter Ascending a great idea / universe but terribly executed, so seeing how it could be executed well is really exciting!

  • @alli_mode
    @alli_mode 3 года назад +67

    "No jokes, please"
    *cries in 12 year old boy

  • @malcolmpatton8875
    @malcolmpatton8875 3 года назад +58

    Haven't seen Jupiter Ascending, but uhh I guess I'm here for it?

    • @Valdagast
      @Valdagast 3 года назад +13

      It is _amazingly_ bad. Eddie Redmayne's plays it like he's on Xanax half the time and cocaine the rest.

    • @blokey8
      @blokey8 3 года назад +2

      I find myself curious to see it just because it looks really quite different to most of what Hollywood's putting out these days.

    • @hansakkerman2611
      @hansakkerman2611 3 года назад +1

      @@Valdagast some critics (half) jokingly said Redmayne should give back his Oscar.

    • @LuciferBalor
      @LuciferBalor 3 года назад +1

      She trashes the big final fight, but it's Channing Tatum, on skates, boxing a flying dinosaur. I can't imagine a better reason to watch a bad movie.

    • @austenhead5303
      @austenhead5303 3 года назад +1

      Watch it. It's bad in some ways, but glorious in others. Also, you won't be able to follow on first viewing, but if you watch it multiple times, things start making sense. I'm obsessed with this movie because of the worldbuilding, so I think that's time well-spent, but you know, you make your own decisions.

  • @mavericktitan7874
    @mavericktitan7874 3 года назад +18

    This... This is beautiful. It is so refreshing to hear someone who genuinely knows their stuff critique a "not good" film, explain WHY it's "not good", and try to actually make it better.
    So much more satisfying than the usual complaints of "I didn't like it" I usually hear.

  • @shifttheshaman
    @shifttheshaman 3 года назад +43

    So you're saying we need an HBO series? That's what I thought. **nods** With more bees.

    • @austenhead5303
      @austenhead5303 3 года назад +3

      Fewer bees, more worldbuilding and philosophy, please. And silly, campy fun.

    • @jackee-is-silent2938
      @jackee-is-silent2938 3 года назад +1

      NO! NOT THE BEES!!!

  • @amandadadesky5192
    @amandadadesky5192 3 года назад +30

    Random thought: Could we get some Jill merch that reads, "The Story Goeth Thusly"? I feel the burning need for at LEAST a mug and a tshirt with that written on it.

    • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
      @Allan_aka_RocKITEman 3 года назад +3

      _"What the Jeff?"_ would probably be popular as well...😊

  • @jessielefey
    @jessielefey 3 года назад +20

    "That's a little beyond our scope here."
    Aww that's not giving yourself enough credit. There's an excellent opportunity to also go old school with a "Stuff You Like (About Things You Know Are Objectively Terrible -- I Didn't Say It Was Good I Said I Liked It)". ;-)

    • @JillBearup
      @JillBearup  3 года назад +10

      Could you imagine how long the video would have been though? 😁

    • @pienkunicorn
      @pienkunicorn 3 года назад +3

      @@JillBearup so? I can listen to you talk about this for 90 min at least. I understand if you don't want to put in that much work for this movie. But please don't think your audience would be disinterested.

  • @jessicastimpson2152
    @jessicastimpson2152 3 года назад +63

    No idea what this movie is, but I can tell you're having fun

    • @matthewmcneany
      @matthewmcneany 3 года назад +8

      It was a pet project of The Wachowski sisters
      (who wrote the Matrix)

    • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
      @Allan_aka_RocKITEman 3 года назад

      @@matthewmcneany >>> Are those two the ones that started off as brothers?

  • @twelvefootnine
    @twelvefootnine 3 года назад +24

    Yep, I'm definitely adding "What the Jeff?!?!" to my vocabulary.

  • @alyssafitzgerald83
    @alyssafitzgerald83 3 года назад +46

    I never watched it when it came out, because the trailers alone convinced me this would be a shit show, but the way you fixed it made me happy enough to think I would have watched it had it been your cut. Not enough to see it outside the dollar theater due to the everything in the kitchen sink problem, but still.

  • @encyclogeekia1865
    @encyclogeekia1865 3 года назад +39

    I have never seen this movie but I completely agree with everything you said

  • @brentwalker9576
    @brentwalker9576 3 года назад +41

    Having it laid out like this makes me REALLY realize why I've always said I want to like the movie, but can't quite bring myself to do so. There's a good core here, but the action is just too bland and repetitive to feel compelling. I think what really hurts it is how easily small changes to the script could have recontextualized the rescue-rescue-rescue, and just little bits of dialogue in said scenes could have made character arcs work and really solidified the development.
    Just imagine if, as the movie progressed, Jupiter grew more willing and better able to participate in the action, not necessarily as a competent combatant, but just more willing to take risks and act, grab a stray weapon and use it (which then pays off by reaffirming her unwillingness to kill in sparing evil-bro and provides additional character context for putting a stop to soylent shenaniganery), show the growing bond of trust and the sense of betrayal after being rescued only to IMMEDIATELY have the shady political backstabbing bite her for trusting. It wouldn't have taken much to make the phrases rhyme but build on each other instead of being the same chorus in a new venue.
    Also, making the delays during the big ship rescue where EVERY SECOND is supposed to be vital arise from external factors to be overcome rather than dilly-dallying would have sold the urgency rather than undercutting it.
    Want to like it. Really, I do. But it's not just Jupiter that needs saving in this movie. Like you point out, what can you do when just all the choices that went into the movie are the way they are?

    • @Marveryn
      @Marveryn 3 года назад +3

      i think that what hurt the movie the most is the repeative action of her being kidnap and being rescue. It happen so much it may as week as be a joke. AT some point you kind of want her to say no i am rescuing myself this time. The film could had save a lot of grief by cutting out one of the sibling. I know you need the sister to be there to explain why she is important and what she can do to keep earth safe. Horay? but the marriage thing to the last sib. You can combine one of those sibs with the other and save some of that constant Kidnapping plot.

  • @katherinealvarez9216
    @katherinealvarez9216 3 года назад +22

    0:29 yeah, we all had thoughts on the characters. And story (?). And the acting (which wasn’t bad, I don’t think, just, they tried). And ....yeah, I like this movie.

  • @orthochronicity6428
    @orthochronicity6428 3 года назад +14

    I couldn't help but notice that as your edits progressed towards the finale of this increasingly incomprehensible movie, your hair seemed to get messier. Now that could just be cause filming videos takes a long time and hair is definitely not static, but coupled with how everything gets better when the tea comes out, it seemed like a fitting metaphor for what this movie must have put you through. Well, I'm assuming its tea; if it's not tea, you earned that, too.

  • @nicobones9608
    @nicobones9608 3 года назад +5

    The point Jill makes about "not enough dialogue" in action scenes is a great one! Before the Revenge of the Sith movie came out, there was a video game that more or less spoiled the movie, and I played it before watching the movie. During the final boss fight, which is Obi-Wan vs. Anakin, every transition from one part of the battle to the next was accompanied by a few seconds of dialogue. For example, Obi-Wan gives Anakin an in-depth apology for failing him as a mentor. He says he wished he'd warned him about all the pit-falls of the Dark Side. I remember feeling a bit cheated when I got to the actual fight in the movie and they barely speak a word to one another. Having Obi-Wan try to talk him down every chance they got made it feel more like this really was an old friend he was trying to save rather than like he'd simply accepted the fact that Anakin was his enemy now.
    In short, yeah, dialogue is HUGELY important in fight scenes.

  • @guicaldo7164
    @guicaldo7164 3 года назад +38

    If you haven't already, you really should check out RWBY, starting with the Red, White, Black and Yellow trailers. The fight animation and choreography is out of this world

    • @siddiqsmouse5004
      @siddiqsmouse5004 3 года назад +7

      I love that your picture is Jaune because I read your comment as him.

    • @guicaldo7164
      @guicaldo7164 3 года назад +7

      @@siddiqsmouse5004 What can I say... I'm a little very obsessed with that show

    • @ladyscarlette6289
      @ladyscarlette6289 3 года назад +3

      I love RWBY. I love watching other people watch the trailers. I love the music.

    • @guicaldo7164
      @guicaldo7164 3 года назад +3

      @@ladyscarlette6289 Then let's hope Jill sees this comment!

    • @ilurvsharrypotter
      @ilurvsharrypotter 3 года назад +1

      +

  • @Valdagast
    @Valdagast 3 года назад +46

    "Bees. My God." Also, is that tea in that mug or is it something more... Irish?

    • @JillBearup
      @JillBearup  3 года назад +35

      Peppermint and liquorice tea, good for the vocal chords 😊

    • @Valdagast
      @Valdagast 3 года назад +1

      @@JillBearup And whiskey?

    • @brentwalker9576
      @brentwalker9576 3 года назад +21

      @@Valdagast No, see, she drinks the tea without the whiskey, I drink the whiskey without tea. Cosmicly, it balances out.

    • @JillBearup
      @JillBearup  3 года назад +17

      Whiskey is gross, so you're welcome to it!
      (I'm not sure if it's a side effect of being a supertaster but alcohol just tastes disgusting to me, regardless of what other stuff is in the drink. Eurgh.)

    • @doobybrother21
      @doobybrother21 3 года назад

      @@JillBearup You do mean alcohol and not beer or anything right ?

  • @blokey8
    @blokey8 3 года назад +19

    Watched on Nebula, came here to applaud the Busted quotation. Also, I really like that you come at this subject with a real understanding of what serves the story, it makes your videos really insightful as well as entertaining :)

    • @JillBearup
      @JillBearup  3 года назад +8

      I genuinely did not expect more than one person to notice that, so Ten Internet Points for noticing that 😁

  • @Maylott
    @Maylott 3 года назад +3

    Loved the ruthlessness of 'This scene would have been improved if the camera operator was hungover.'
    Also the Busted reference.

    • @JillBearup
      @JillBearup  3 года назад +1

      I could not resist the Busted reference 😁

  • @nosuchthingasshould4175
    @nosuchthingasshould4175 3 года назад +11

    I liked Jupiter Ascending. Still do. Guess there's no accounting for taste.

    • @amandajoy8947
      @amandajoy8947 3 года назад +5

      You're valid.

    • @chadfalardeau5396
      @chadfalardeau5396 3 года назад +1

      I like it as a cheesy action movie

    • @a-blivvy-yus
      @a-blivvy-yus 3 года назад +1

      This video made Jupiter Ascending worth the price I paid to see it.
      I watched it on a free to air TV channel.
      Your opinion is valid, even if I don't entirely agree with it.

    • @isabelleblanchet3694
      @isabelleblanchet3694 3 года назад

      I like it so much it was the first and only movie that made me want to search for fan fictions and even write a few. The possibilities this universe provides are immense.

  • @girlwithoutpearlearring
    @girlwithoutpearlearring 3 года назад +3

    "It *is* Sean Bean. So we could just kill him off."
    This poor man has been tied to his role of the condemned like no other.

  • @zacksstuff
    @zacksstuff 3 года назад +20

    I think I used the phrase "cinematic clusterf--k" in my review of this film. Good video!

  • @PalagiAlomagi
    @PalagiAlomagi 3 года назад +70

    It’s a sad day when the people who made THE MATRIX put out such lackluster action scenes

    • @Duiker36
      @Duiker36 3 года назад +22

      In fairness, a huge part of the POINT of doing The Matrix was the action scenes, so they hired accordingly. Namely, they picked up an established HK Cinema fight coordinator and introduced HK-style fight scenes to Hollywood. The story and world were more of a thing they snuck in under the cover of cool fights.
      The point of Jupiter Ascending was a giant high-concept worldbuilding exercise, and the fight scenes are instead just a formality because of course a big Wachowski blockbuster has to have fight scenes.

    • @matthewmcneany
      @matthewmcneany 3 года назад +16

      ​@@Duiker36 Cinema is an inherently collaborative process, sometimes I think people (especially people outside the industry) forget how much a good director relies on a team of qualified experts and instead adopt a 'great man' approach to film making, as if a director just wills a great film into being.

    • @PalagiAlomagi
      @PalagiAlomagi 3 года назад +8

      @@matthewmcneany yes it’s a team effort, but at the end of the day the directors are the ones who have final say on whether something was good enough or not. At the end of filming these scenes, they looked at these sub-par action set pieces and said “Yep, that’s a wrap.”

    • @SeanBoyce-gp
      @SeanBoyce-gp 3 года назад +5

      @@Duiker36 They had some very real things they were trying to do with the first Matrix movie. Take a peep at Patrick Willem's or - I think? - Movies with Mikey's commentary about these things. The HK fight scenes were definitely a thing they plonked in, but they plonked into a movie with a complete, if nuanced, story and very clear, if complex, thematics.

    • @roguebantha7324
      @roguebantha7324 3 года назад +5

      The Matrix Reloaded has entered the chat

  • @skhootman
    @skhootman 3 года назад +4

    "Youth regenerating soylent green bubble bath," Nice!

  • @JR-bi9fk
    @JR-bi9fk 3 года назад +6

    I've yet to watch a video of yours that I didn't like, but this is a step above in itself. Your ability to identify and articulate problems and their solutions as well as successes and what makes them noteworthy is uncanny, hope to see more of your re-edits in future uploads.

  • @CBG232x5
    @CBG232x5 3 года назад +7

    Hooray for learning shiny new skills and doing a thing.

    • @CBG232x5
      @CBG232x5 3 года назад +1

      I feel like a majority of your fixes was to the overall “grammar” of phrases of the combat.
      Very solid work. I very much enjoyed this.
      “Cognizance of your frame of reference” is my new lo fi hip hop Spotify channel

  • @Heothbremel
    @Heothbremel 3 года назад +4

    I needed the "goeth thusly". Not the plot recap, I had seen it. But just hearing you say that :) cheers on this one, thanks for slogging through it!

  • @mxmithril
    @mxmithril 3 года назад +3

    i watched Jupiter Ascending in its entirety, I listened to your synopsis, and I STILL don't fully understand this movie.... a true achievement in incomprehensibility by this film

  • @griffinmoth
    @griffinmoth 3 года назад +2

    I actually genuinely love Jupiter Ascending for reasons that are not easy to articulate, but I appreciate this video anyway. The constant cutting and dark lighting in fight scenes definitely are not appreciated and take away from what I do love about the movie. "Show more of Channing Tatum's body" made me lose it

  • @paulp7165
    @paulp7165 3 года назад +2

    Thank you Ms. Bearup,
    Not just for this one video in particular, but for the understanding you've provided in describing and discussing these scenarios that occur in movies and TV shows. I've often had a curious unease watching a movie and feeling something was wrong, but not having the insight to describe the problem to myself, let alone to someone else. All too often, I've looked at action scenes (or fights) as just ... action; not having the requirement of building a character or advancing a plot. It's something that, when done well, you don't notice it but just luxuriate in the moment. When it's not done well, there's a restlessness that occurs and I feel myself reaching for the fast-forward button, even in the movie theater.
    Kudos to you. Thank you again for your insights. And I'm looking forward to more of your videos in the future.

  • @limitedcommentary1317
    @limitedcommentary1317 3 года назад +11

    The perfect movie would be directed by FoundFlix, written by NandoVMovies, and have Jill Bearup as the Stunt Coordinator.

  • @BensBrickDesigns
    @BensBrickDesigns 3 года назад +25

    I haven't seen it, I kinda wanna guilt watch it. Then come back to this.

    • @a-blivvy-yus
      @a-blivvy-yus 3 года назад

      I hope you did. I watched it on free to air TV and this video at least made it worth the price I paid for it.

  • @bookleaf72
    @bookleaf72 3 года назад +10

    Love your video! You do make valid points and I think they could have done the action scenes differently.
    I must confess, I do really like Jupiter Ascending. To me it feels like one of those self-insert fanfics brought to life, and I just dig it. It does have problems and is such a wild ride... I understand why it's not everyone's cup of tea. Super fun to watch it theatres though. The audience reaction was hilarious

  • @wosc
    @wosc 3 года назад +6

    I enjoyed this "behind the curtain of scenes" look very much! And also your delivery. I hope you had fun making this, because it definitely was fun to watch.

  • @InnoVintage
    @InnoVintage 3 года назад +4

    Oh my! Now you're doing fight scene fanfiction... Good on you for bringing my two favourite shows on your channel together.

  • @Duiker36
    @Duiker36 3 года назад +3

    Okay, I'm genuinely impressed by *both* of your plot summaries. They were both accurate, and pointed out differents sets of important things about the movie's ... plot? ... that get missed, and they made coherent sense in and of themselves. That's really hard to do for this movie (and it's telling that your two summaries go about it differently), so yeah. Very impressed.
    Outside the scope of what you were going for, but I think the main problem with the movie is that it didn't know what story it wanted to tell. It had cool ideas for high concept (space bureaucracy, planet harvesting, reincarnation via DNA signatures), backstory concepts (what are gray aliens?), and probably specific character concepts (wolfman! dragonman!), but it didn't really know how to connect the dots to make it a *story*. They ended up trying to jam it into a Cinderella story and the result was something that has no depth beyond a Cinderella story, but was basically copy-pasted sequentially a few times to fill out runtime and create space to show off different parts of the universe.
    Without that structure, it's not surprising that the individual scenes came off as chaotic and confused, since they had no structure to be fleshing out. I mean, there are five factions: the three siblings, Earth, and Aegis: and three of them are in play for every scene with a conflict in such a way that it makes the stakes pretty unclear. Ultimately, though the unifying problem is this: there didn't exist any proactive action for Jupiter to take such that she would win the day. For a movie that throws so many chips into the worldbuilding pot, it just needed that one thing to rebuild the story around and apparently no one had any ideas. (My solution is probably to make it so she had a way to disinherit the siblings, but legally requiring that she do so in-person so that they have a chance to dissuade her. That makes it harder to put her in a wedding dress, but I think that's the only genuine loss.)

    • @Rachel-fi4sc
      @Rachel-fi4sc 2 года назад

      Why can I not Love this comment?

  • @maxximumb
    @maxximumb 3 года назад +4

    It would have made for a great twist for Jupiter to rescue Kane once. It got very trite with Jupiter always needing rescuing by the hero. It would have been nice to see her gain some self preservation skills as the plot progressed. At a couple of points I found myself thinking, just let her die and we can move the plot along with a different twist, or just the end credits.
    I felt very little empathy with any of the characters, they were just pretty looking versions of tired tropes in a movie held together with exposition and too many special effects. They had some good actors and Channing Tatum, but wasted their skills.
    I think your edit would have made the film easier to watch, but the lack of character arc or any development would still leave me regretting spending money to see the film.

  • @newbluedisk
    @newbluedisk 3 года назад +7

    I've always enjoyed these videos as they do something that very important, namely pointing out what can be improved while pointing out just how bad something is. Like many, I've had beer and bad movie nights with friends where we riff on B-movies, but to deconstruct these films in such away that we can see the particulars of why they don't work is refereshing. Seeing the structure of why this comes across as a slap dash mess serves as a learning experience for creative folk as well, and something I greatly appreciate!

  • @TheCrazyPlayer
    @TheCrazyPlayer 3 года назад +3

    Jill, your suffering was not in vain; I enjoyed this video immensely (and not solely because of the aforementioned suffering) and am very happy to be subbed to your channel.

  • @LordSvzklx
    @LordSvzklx 3 года назад +2

    I do kind of think that the Wachowski's problem is that they have all these ideas, want to do them all at once, and no-one dares to rein them in because they're the duo that made the Matrix. Like, how much better could this movie have been if when they had said "Okay we want to do a big flashy set piece where kain rescues jupiter" there was someone like Jill in the room to go "what, again?" like she is in this video. Just because everyone considers them creative geniuses doesn't mean every idea is good, guys, don't be afraid to tell them no

  • @maximeduchalet4662
    @maximeduchalet4662 3 года назад +6

    I still love Jupiter Ascending !

  • @trix10101
    @trix10101 2 года назад +2

    "It is Sean bean so we can just kill him off", most likely a discussion brought up in every movie with Sean bean.

  • @sevenofblades
    @sevenofblades 3 года назад +3

    One of the "symbolic actions" that didn't really come together in Jupiter Ascending was the parallel falling and rising of Jupiter, both conceptually/thematically/psychologically and physically. She is constantly tumbling and falling through situations and physical spaces. We're given some sense of rising when she "stands up" to each sibling, refusing and defying them, but that feeling always gets lost in the noise. It's only during the literal escape from planet Jupiter do we get a literal sense of ascent. I think that could've been better executed and may have helped with the overall reception of the movie.
    Also, for being the presented love interest, Mila Kunis and Channing Tatum couldn't get any chemistry to manifest.

  • @somethingwolfish1872
    @somethingwolfish1872 3 года назад +2

    Your videos are always impeccable and detailed even when the subject matter is an eldritch horror ground up and served to the masses with popcorn. It is for this reason that I enjoy them so much.

  • @classicslover
    @classicslover 3 года назад +1

    Did you say the FIRST time you watched it? You...you...you KNEW what it was...AND YOU WENT BACK? Brave and self-sacrificing. Also, at 2:01? My name is not "Shirley". AND "doodley-doo description-thing" should be in the dictionary. I got to twenty minutes in...then you were mean to me. Well...Okay...whoever voted for you to do that was mean to YOU. However, I am SO completely impressed and excited by your vast knowledge and wide array of talent! You one woman production team, you! So this video, subject matter that movie, was in deed well worth it! I will sing it's praises...once you finish the sheet music (I assume you're doing that next) until then...I'll just talk about it and highly recommend it! Kudos!

  • @Vashthestampede967
    @Vashthestampede967 3 года назад +1

    I'm honestly impressed you could summarize the plot. I couldn't describe it if I tried. Its just a hot mess of phrases that if I were to tell someone they'd think I'd gone mental. " bees detect royalty" or that a person chose cleaning toilets over ruling over an advanced alien race for reasons or saying that a person named Jupiter Jones is not the next marvel superhero. Good job!

  • @markzeddo6033
    @markzeddo6033 3 года назад +2

    I totally love Jupiter Ascending, and I love it more every time I watch it, but I have to admit, the Jill Bearup cut would be much better!

  • @boosterh1113
    @boosterh1113 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for doing this. As much as I found your fight scene analysis interesting, I was a little sad when I realised it would be displacing your traditional critiques of the work as a whole, so I am happy to see you come back full circle.
    (Also I've also had an unreasonable soft spot for this movie because Jupiter makes the same decisions that I would for so much of the movie, and I was so happy to find a reasonable non-action heroine in an action movie.)

  • @Yakarash
    @Yakarash 3 года назад +19

    I hated that he saved her in every single action scene. Like at least let her save him once!!! Just once - and I don't care if it is by diplomacy or luck.

    • @francesconicoletti2547
      @francesconicoletti2547 3 года назад +8

      It’s understandable that a normal earth girl can’t fight dinosaurs, but she could have pulled a reverse Wakanda thing, O’h I’m the Space Princess now, that means the Royal Guard answers to me now “arrest Junior Volidmort over there and don’t be gentle “

  • @adoptedbythe1king
    @adoptedbythe1king 3 года назад +1

    I absolutely loved this video! Please do more like it!
    I actually love Jupiter Ascending but couldn't figure out why I struggled to watch it more often and the things you explained about the lighting and editing of the action sequences helped put words to what I had felt but couldn't articulate. Thank you!

  • @relativityboy
    @relativityboy Год назад

    Two years later... I so enjoyed the visual design I just forgave all the badness. The idea of a cathedral ship, a habitable sphere in the center of a maelstrom, double penetration of a red spot... oh wait.
    I found the movie and the scenes quite pretty. It seemed to me (at the time) like they tried to stuff three or four movies into one (that's why we get the excessive repetitiveness, the bits that would add variety are missing).
    Any-who. Thanks for being you Jill! I hope present you is having even more fun than past you seems to be.

  • @michaelfox1432
    @michaelfox1432 3 года назад +1

    ... more of a plot summary than you could possibly want... Thank you, oh so much, Jill. LOL I thought you meant you were going to make SENSE out of it. :)

  • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
    @Allan_aka_RocKITEman 3 года назад +2

    _"See? I told you we were keeping Sean Bean alive for a reason."_
    😊😊😊

  • @mena94x3
    @mena94x3 3 года назад +1

    I love that you keep referencing Soylent Green. Such a classic.

  • @zappababe8577
    @zappababe8577 2 года назад

    So happy that I found your channel. Your videos are always very informative and you have a great sense of humour too! You are obviously very talented at theatrical fighting, and the passion you have for your craft shines through. Keep up the good work, girl!

  • @dinodob4430
    @dinodob4430 3 года назад +8

    1:09 What are the rich people doing to that toilet that requires Jupiter Jones to get down on her knees and give it such an intense scrubbing?

    • @Marveryn
      @Marveryn 3 года назад

      people and particular those that can afford cleaning service went there toilet spotless as it show you are a very clean person that don't enjoy germs

  • @carolynv8979
    @carolynv8979 2 года назад +1

    Congrats, you saved the earth with editing!

  • @nickporter4279
    @nickporter4279 3 года назад +1

    (1) such an amazing video. There's a lot of... room for improvement... in Jupiter Ascending's action, and these suggestions are very much the Tim Allen 1990s sitcom of improving rooms (because he had a show called Home Improvement and I wrote a minute ago that it had room for.. *loses train of thought and gives up*).
    (2) I get the impression that most viewers seem to have taken Jupiter Ascending seriously, but I thought it was the funniest film I've seen in years. The "bees don't tell lies" part nearly killed me. Then again, I'm not *entirely* sure the comedy is intentional. But that's why it works!
    With the best will in the world though, the action is objectively terrible, and it's hard to believe it's made by the same people behind The Matrix, home to some of the greatest sequences ever filmed. At this point they really do need a Jill in the editing room.

  • @macalmy6750
    @macalmy6750 3 года назад +1

    I am amazed. You have actually made me glad to have seen Jupiter Ascending. Because I just spent 23 minutes going "Oh my god, that was a thing wasn't it?" instead of "Surely you're making this up!"

  • @amandajoy8947
    @amandajoy8947 3 года назад +11

    This whole review and you didn't even mention how her owning the earth meant nothing because they weren't going to harvest it in her lifetime anyway....

  • @nicobones9608
    @nicobones9608 3 года назад +2

    Every time she says "shooty shooty" my smile gets bigger.

  • @isobellabrett
    @isobellabrett 3 года назад +10

    I won't be able to watch all at once. 😭
    OK watched it now. Maybe I have just been single for way to long, but why does she need a bloke to rescue her. I mean if she saved him once or twice it might have been slightly more interesting?

  • @hurricaneofcats
    @hurricaneofcats 3 года назад +1

    Thank you. This movie is my trash and I appreciate all attempts to deconstruct or improve it. Fight scenes are a great place to start.

  • @AingealWroth
    @AingealWroth День назад

    I actually liked that movie. It was silly and so over the top I couldn't help myself, but I do desperately wish we'd had your "Bear Cut"

  • @NIRDIAN1
    @NIRDIAN1 3 года назад +1

    Honestly the Warhammer Scene (rescue from second sibling) is one of my favourite Sci-fi moments CONCEPTUALLY, as it shows a Weaponized Kessler Syndrome*! Yes it's visually messy, but honestly I wouldn't know how else to show it... Maybe get the folk who made Gravity in?
    *Kessler Syndrome is the chain-reaction of debris in space crashing into eachother, making more, smaller and faster debris that will shred any vessel trying to traverse areas affected! Weaponized it essentially creates an impenetrable field on the cheap! I honestly love all of these little clearly thought-through scifi concepts. Is it a mess at the end of it? Yes. Am I super glad the Wachowskis got to use their cred to make something this ridiculous and have it EXIST? HELL YES!

  • @HelpMeOuch
    @HelpMeOuch 3 года назад +1

    Greetings, Mrs. Bearup. I hope this message finds you well! I quite enjoyed this video format, and I hope you consider adding it to the repertoire on your channel. I have been working my way through your catalog of videos, and it has been a wonderful experience. Not only are your videos entertaining, but they are extremely informative. I adore the Plus Points videos, and I want to say that it has been a pleasure watching you grow as a creative; and I wanted to thank you for sharing your journey with us. Please do continue to multiply the gifts you were given. It is a joy watching you do so!

  • @idannen
    @idannen 3 года назад +3

    I'm forever distracted by how great your hair is.

    • @Correctrix
      @Correctrix 3 года назад

      Hair can never be too red.
      Also, Jill is insanely charismatic.

  • @gavinhawkes2722
    @gavinhawkes2722 3 года назад +1

    This must have taken you AGES to put together. Much appreciated. Enjoy your content for whatever that means to you. A++

  • @bistromathics6
    @bistromathics6 3 года назад

    Finally, a video in which I disagree with you almost the whole time. Jupiter Ascending has become one of my favorites, warts and all, and many of your objections, I feel, come down to stylistic choices that you simply don't like, while I, within the context of this movie, either enjoy them as-is or give them a pass. I'm not going to go through point-by-point, except to say that I absolutely DO agree on: 1. the length of the chase/fight scene early on where Caine saves Jupiter from a fleet of spaceships (It's crazy long, and gets a bit wearing), and 2. the whole "rescue" scene inside Jupiter's Red Spot. Honestly, that entire scene needs a rewrite, although I love seeing Caine use his magic flying boots, and I like everything about his fight with the dinosaur. But the FALLING and the continual, ever-more-drawn-out breakdown of all of the structures around them, along with her NOT DYING, for SOME REASON, and then the big baddy being killed by something that looks no more or less dangerous/deadly than 99 other things that have already happened to both of them, that's just off-putting. Also, I'm never a fan of the hero/heroine just throwing away a weapon, I assume to show some sort of moral superiority. That's just stupid, no matter who you are.

  • @dunstonlion1342
    @dunstonlion1342 3 года назад

    This was a super fun video! It's a great format!

  • @ZAPitsALEX
    @ZAPitsALEX 3 года назад +1

    This is gold and I agree with all of your suggestions

  • @crimsonraen
    @crimsonraen 3 года назад

    Hahaha Dang.. I appreciate you taking on such an insanely huge project as fixing this movie! Thanks for the video, Jill!

  • @knighteye33
    @knighteye33 3 года назад

    Both the fixes and the summaries (yes both of those as well) were AMAZING, I loved it

  • @ginsengaddict
    @ginsengaddict 3 года назад +1

    Since you've done a fair amount of analysis of Wachowski projects, I'd really like to hear your thoughts on some of the fight scenes in Sense8. Specifically, the fight at the end of episode between Capheus and the SP gang (which is more Sun than Capheus, but whatever), the fight between Lito and Joaquin which culminates his arc, and since you love flirty fights so much, the second fight between Sun and Mun (he's Korean and it's pronounced "Moon", so... Sun and Mun ;P).

  • @juledbird
    @juledbird 3 года назад

    Appreciate the Dress up! Time Princess mention, I have a deep abiding fondness for the game

  • @Dwayne_Bearup
    @Dwayne_Bearup 3 года назад +1

    I got this movie as part of a 2-pack with The Cloud Atlas and I agree with all your thoughts on it.

  • @robbliss7999
    @robbliss7999 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for your noble sacrifice

  • @mikaylam.9117
    @mikaylam.9117 3 года назад +5

    See they should have just had him teach her how to fight but her not being the best and then use her wits to get out at the end. Would have allowed her some agency if she knew how to fight or was shown saving herself with her smarts

  • @Xiph1980
    @Xiph1980 3 года назад +4

    Haven't seen the movie, but it sounds like this script was written by a large council and nobody wanted to let other people down by dismissing ideas.... Or two extremely intoxicated and drugged people.... 😂

  • @vadalia3860
    @vadalia3860 3 года назад

    The Bean lives! Very good re-write!

  • @hamilpatel4025
    @hamilpatel4025 3 года назад

    definitely different, wasn't expect that.
    But really fun and love to hear your analysis of things like this!!

  • @tazpushkar5878
    @tazpushkar5878 2 года назад

    I genuinely want to see the redone piece. I've never seen the movie but I got excited for your version. For reasons.