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  • @TheArmchairHistorian
    @TheArmchairHistorian  3 года назад +725

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    • @C.A._Old
      @C.A._Old 3 года назад +5

      1nd Reich ....

    • @isaiahwolftail867
      @isaiahwolftail867 3 года назад +1

      Can you make more Napoleon videos. Especially like the Battle of Borodino.

    • @C.A._Old
      @C.A._Old 3 года назад +1

      68 80 likes ! 0 dislikes ! 18:02:2021 ! 21:25 ! 21:26 :O :D :O !

    • @gpjedy7379
      @gpjedy7379 3 года назад +5

      Too bad Middle Ages don't have such traction on RUclips as WW2 and Modern history. Will be missing these kinds of videos.

    • @timmcclymont3527
      @timmcclymont3527 3 года назад +2

      Now THIS is an interesting topic!

  • @mr.markofski4267
    @mr.markofski4267 3 года назад +5729

    I know the HRE is super memeable, but staying together for a thousand years while constantly being on the brink of collapse is very impressive

    • @EndOfSmallSanctuary97
      @EndOfSmallSanctuary97 3 года назад +497

      It wasn't "constantly on the brink of collapse". That's a straight-up meme.

    • @timekeeper2738
      @timekeeper2738 3 года назад +352

      @@EndOfSmallSanctuary97 they werent on the edge but they werent exactly fully stable either

    • @EndOfSmallSanctuary97
      @EndOfSmallSanctuary97 3 года назад +567

      @@timekeeper2738 Lasting longer than almost any other political entity of the era makes it more stable than not. Emperors were almost never overthrown or removed, either, which can't be said for countries like England.

    • @Normal_Boii
      @Normal_Boii 3 года назад +63

      They were similar with Rome on that part I guess

    • @johnnottellingyou2402
      @johnnottellingyou2402 3 года назад +111

      literally byzantine history gotta have respect for all three romes

  • @TheJaviferrol
    @TheJaviferrol 3 года назад +6293

    Imagine ancient romans and germanic tribes learning that theyre gonna have a thing together in the future

    • @TheJaviferrol
      @TheJaviferrol 3 года назад +394

      @@cl4655 If we all go back further enough, most Europeans have a german ancestor

    • @riograndedosulball248
      @riograndedosulball248 3 года назад +575

      @@cl4655 oh, how creative of you to quote a phrase of someone from the XVIII century about an empire that lasted 800 years

    • @doctorferdinand1003
      @doctorferdinand1003 3 года назад +216

      @@riograndedosulball248 You’re all over these comments with the same complaint. Voltaire’s comment is succinct, accurate and funny. Why shouldn’t it be quoted?

    • @granville7
      @granville7 3 года назад +265

      @@doctorferdinand1003 quote it but it applies best around Voltaire's lifetime. it was certainly an empire at the time this clip depicts. we now know, thanks to this clip, why it was called 'holy' and that is has a different meaning to what we usually confer to. the 'roman' part needs a bit of imagination but one of the following emperors (Frederick II) spent almost all his life _south_ of Rome.

    • @cowboymooman8776
      @cowboymooman8776 3 года назад +25

      @@doctorferdinand1003 ive seen it so many times, sometimes multiple relpies on one comment

  • @majan6267
    @majan6267 3 года назад +2094

    "Lawsuits having not yet been invented" ... Romans be like: WTF

    • @lorenzooliveira1157
      @lorenzooliveira1157 3 года назад +135

      Perhaps they were forgotten?

    • @HakimFinger1953
      @HakimFinger1953 3 года назад +36

      @@lorenzooliveira1157 I think it was.

    • @ismedia5517
      @ismedia5517 3 года назад +53

      @@lorenzooliveira1157 In western europe, you mean

    • @Billswiftgti
      @Billswiftgti 3 года назад +39

      This channel is full of lies

    • @kungolaf4499
      @kungolaf4499 3 года назад +132

      @@Billswiftgti It isn't a mischievous lie... More like a simplification for the sake of a quirky joke without delving too much into a sidetrack.

  • @anthonyle2506
    @anthonyle2506 3 года назад +3852

    The Holy Roman Empire in a nutshell
    Everything is good but it’s still on fire

  • @silesiaball9505
    @silesiaball9505 3 года назад +1389

    Holy Roman Empire was very fascinating. I finished reading "Heart of Europe: A History of the Holy Roman Empire" lately and I was amazed how this state functioned and why we should not judge it by our modern perspective of centralized states.

    • @hanz2904
      @hanz2904 3 года назад +12

      YOU CAN'T LEAVE ME WITHOUT A LINK

    • @silesiaball9505
      @silesiaball9505 3 года назад +3

      @@hanz2904 link to what?

    • @hanz2904
      @hanz2904 3 года назад +5

      @@silesiaball9505 oh nvm

    • @all-lowcostthenile6799
      @all-lowcostthenile6799 3 года назад +70

      True enough, holy roman empire was basically modern germany, without internet

    • @deleted3471
      @deleted3471 3 года назад +2

      Yeah

  • @hrach1384
    @hrach1384 3 года назад +61

    Is no one going to mention how beautiful the animation is give the animator a promotion

  • @Mlafleur1864
    @Mlafleur1864 3 года назад +2767

    Can we just take a second to appreciate how good Griffin's hair looks in every video

    • @arthurrelke
      @arthurrelke 3 года назад +15

      I think he just need to remove the hair in the sides

    • @gergelytoth9315
      @gergelytoth9315 3 года назад +3

      Wdym Albert?

    • @romaniacountryball
      @romaniacountryball 3 года назад +3

      @@arthurrelke undercut

    • @arthurrelke
      @arthurrelke 3 года назад +1

      @@romaniacountryball yeah, in brazil we call degrade

    • @jusu8961
      @jusu8961 3 года назад +23

      hes a lil cutie

  • @cristianvandenbosse8989
    @cristianvandenbosse8989 3 года назад +2650

    Napoleon Bonaparte:' Im about to end this man's whole career'.

    • @lanzarotebello
      @lanzarotebello 3 года назад +239

      Funny thing is tho, Napoleon was largely inspired by Charlemagne and wanted to create an empire that would've made him proud

    • @profesionalshitposter675
      @profesionalshitposter675 3 года назад +134

      @@lanzarotebello he did

    • @nebsam7137
      @nebsam7137 3 года назад +61

      @@profesionalshitposter675 and more

    • @apotato6278
      @apotato6278 3 года назад +78

      A lot of people, if given the choice, would happily go back in time to kill Hitler. I'm more of a pragmatist. I'd defenestrate Napoleon instead. Preventing 3 world wars for the price of 1 dude is a real bargain! Although as a European in this alternate reality i'd do my best to avoid the HRE. Having to show some inbred duke my passport every other village would get really old really quickly.

    • @Brams2777
      @Brams2777 3 года назад +41

      @Herr Spiegel Good, the HRE was a mess that shouldn't have be existed.
      The Confederation of the Rhine wasn't thaaat much better but it was a step in the right direction.

  • @robinrehlinghaus1944
    @robinrehlinghaus1944 2 года назад +234

    As a German, this makes me feel really proud just because of how cool the HRE is portrayed here

    • @Philipp.of.Swabia
      @Philipp.of.Swabia 2 года назад +58

      That’s because it’s not only portrayed cool, it was cool. Many people always make jokes about it, but that’s because the modern term „Empire“ is defined different than it was back then, the Emperor was essentially still the most powerful man of the western world.
      Look up the „Hohenstaufen“ Dynasty, Germany’s greatest royals to date.

    • @derwolf3006
      @derwolf3006 Год назад

      The reason for its founding seems to be just people being so pissed at the church that they made a country out of that? Did I got that right?

    • @dzman5354
      @dzman5354 Год назад +19

      When did a little German pride ever go wrong?

    • @Heinz_von_Westfalen
      @Heinz_von_Westfalen Год назад

      ​@@dzman5354 Man not all of germans history is just nazis. Every country has dark parts of history. Like britain with their colonial empire. They put the boars in concentration camps and murdered millions of people. Same with france and their empire. And dont even get me started on america

    • @1haker
      @1haker Год назад

      You are nothing more than barbarian

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 3 года назад +3058

    Ah... the era when “I swear to God” carried weight...

    • @spiffygonzales5899
      @spiffygonzales5899 3 года назад +364

      To be fair... if you existed back then, you'd probably believe that if you lied while swearing to God you would burn in eternal fire and brimstone... So It's understandable.

    • @wtechafk34
      @wtechafk34 3 года назад +47

      little did they know that science is real (edit: alright i know my comment and replies are wrong, sorry for the mess that i caused)

    • @marcelob.678
      @marcelob.678 3 года назад +195

      @@wtechafk34 hmmm... i think they did very well know it...
      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Catholic_clergy_scientists

    • @wtechafk34
      @wtechafk34 3 года назад +5

      @@marcelob.678 yeah but they still don't believe in science as well as god

    • @wtechafk34
      @wtechafk34 3 года назад +10

      @Egg T it's very rare for people to believe in science since at that time everyone still believe in god. And the Pope still have alot of power.

  • @saidtoshimaru1832
    @saidtoshimaru1832 3 года назад +477

    0:50 - While charging the enemy, that man came to the sudden realization that life has no ultimate meaning.

    • @BruhMoment-cs6tj
      @BruhMoment-cs6tj 3 года назад +45

      "Did... did I just charge directly into spears?"
      Someone's units in RTW:Charlemagne.

    • @reidparker1848
      @reidparker1848 3 года назад +6

      Woes of being a naturalist, huh?

    • @justforrow
      @justforrow 2 года назад +1

      I was wondering why he looked like that.

  • @butlerian2238
    @butlerian2238 3 года назад +330

    Leo never gave Irene the title of Empress. She was a regent until her son, Constantine VI, came of age, even then she didn't relinquish control. Her son was incapable and his father's relatives got support to take the throne, so he had them blinded or their tongues cut out. Irene's supporters captured Constantine VI and blinded him, and made Irene Queen regnant. Definitely worth mentioning rather than just "she's a woman!".

    • @tam6753
      @tam6753 2 года назад +26

      Thank you so much for this!!

    • @michaelm-bs2er
      @michaelm-bs2er 2 года назад +46

      Very good point. Whether it's right or wrong by our standards, legally, a woman could not inherited the throne. I don't think Irene was ever recognised as legitimate Empress, at least not in the West.

    • @deutschesvaterlandfankanal
      @deutschesvaterlandfankanal Год назад

      Irene's not even legally an empress in the east,and for her acts reminding me of the goddamned bolsheviks,may she burn in hell alongside marx,lenin,sison,stalin,trotsky,mao zedong and (ironically named)engels

    • @jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901
      @jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901 Год назад +12

      After accidentally killing her son, Irene became empress and began calling herself Bassilissa. The pope used the fact that Rome had never had a female ruler before as the justification for crowning Charlemagne.

    • @moeenuddin6467
      @moeenuddin6467 Год назад +13

      @@jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901 " Accidentally "

  • @kaisersarmy3995
    @kaisersarmy3995 3 года назад +330

    Finally someone did a video on the holy Roman empire

    • @adecadeofpoetry4831
      @adecadeofpoetry4831 3 года назад +3

      Long overdue....!

    • @treeman12815
      @treeman12815 3 года назад

      @Stella Hohenheim yes

    • @karlmuller4764
      @karlmuller4764 3 года назад +4

      you can try to watch Guy bloke if you didn't know him already. Did 2 nice videos so far on the HRE, it sadly takes him a bit for the third

    • @noodled6145
      @noodled6145 3 года назад +1

      Voltaire's nightmare

    • @WizavPRO
      @WizavPRO 3 года назад +3

      Germans calling their empire "Roman" is beyond laughable and self-humiliating. Romans are from Anatolia even before they colonized Italy in 1000 B.C

  • @4ndr3c3s4r1n0
    @4ndr3c3s4r1n0 3 года назад +318

    12:30 - When you play EU4 enough to recognize most of the Electors just looking at their coats of arms.

    • @Le-eu4bf
      @Le-eu4bf 3 года назад +23

      True am still an early player and u recognize Brandenburg, palatine, and bohemia

    • @M0h4med05
      @M0h4med05 3 года назад +1

      True

    • @GTillet
      @GTillet 3 года назад +4

      The pope election sound as well hahaha

    • @MelcorScarr
      @MelcorScarr 3 года назад +9

      @@GTillet As well as the "New Emperor Elected" sound at 12:40. I am sure there are more that I missed.

    • @DGWraithz
      @DGWraithz 2 года назад +4

      These guys really did add in the new emperor eu4 sound

  • @Yora21
    @Yora21 3 года назад +519

    Otto is the most important person in European history who nobody ever talks about.

    • @lorddodge2867
      @lorddodge2867 3 года назад +11

      Sad but true

    • @stevemc01
      @stevemc01 3 года назад +7

      Odo of Aquitaine?

    • @lorddodge2867
      @lorddodge2867 3 года назад +5

      @@stevemc01 No. We mean the emperor

    • @stevemc01
      @stevemc01 3 года назад +10

      @@lorddodge2867 Ah ok. Odo stays forgotten. :D

    • @thunderbird1921
      @thunderbird1921 3 года назад +58

      Otto the Great truly is one of the most underrated leaders in European history.

  • @johnc4122
    @johnc4122 3 года назад +1478

    Here’s an idea: could you make a video about what life was like in the European African colonies? What was life like in, say, Portuguese Angola and was it different to life in Belgian Congo?

    • @joshuataylor3550
      @joshuataylor3550 3 года назад +20

      Great idea

    • @nrempi8838
      @nrempi8838 3 года назад +91

      It was bad
      Tadaaa

    • @joshuataylor3550
      @joshuataylor3550 3 года назад +110

      @@nrempi8838 yeah but how bad specifically. How did local princes benefit from the subjugation of their people etc.?

    • @Norg1
      @Norg1 3 года назад +15

      has they say it was all cozy in the port costal towns but once u trek inland well..... its a bit more uncomfortable lol

    • @privatetrash2810
      @privatetrash2810 3 года назад +109

      @@joshuataylor3550 Belgians needed someone to lend them a *hand*

  • @kenny187ful
    @kenny187ful 3 года назад +117

    Charles "The Chad Hammer" Martel

    • @chainmbl4257
      @chainmbl4257 3 года назад +18

      He has one of the badass nickname in European history

    • @MrSafior
      @MrSafior 3 года назад +3

      @@deleted3471 He din't respect christianity and loot several curchs.
      Before the revisionisme of the XIX century, he was more well know for his crime against the church, then for his victory against a small band of Berberes raiders.

    • @deleted3471
      @deleted3471 3 года назад +4

      @@MrSafior oh sorry about that.

    • @MrSafior
      @MrSafior 3 года назад +1

      @@deleted3471 No need to apologies. I just debunk an revisionism scam that unfortunatly still spread.

    • @Aggg299
      @Aggg299 3 года назад +5

      @@MrSafior nah you're just a lefty

  • @jemert96
    @jemert96 3 года назад +33

    I love how these videos could easily be cutscenes in a historical strategy game

  • @dillonseals6574
    @dillonseals6574 3 года назад +297

    Umayyads - cavalry charge into a line of spears entrenched in a forest
    Umayyads right after - how did we lose?? D:

    • @yotubeification
      @yotubeification 3 года назад +61

      To be fair to them. They had conquered a lot of the world. And much of those parts of the world they conquered were much more impressive than the half civilized plains and forests of Gaul.
      It wasn't broken so they didn't try to fix it.

    • @adankmeme651
      @adankmeme651 3 года назад +2

      Kinda reminds me of the charge of the light brigade during the crimean war

    • @yonathanrakau1783
      @yonathanrakau1783 3 года назад +7

      @@yotubeification no, not really that time those places like in hispania wasnt that much better than gaul when they 1st conquer them so did morocco, there was a reason the assasins showed up and screw up everything in morocco centuries later then they just left it out

    • @adenkunz4747
      @adenkunz4747 3 года назад +1

      @@yotubeification the dark forest has a knack for this

    • @chibiromano5631
      @chibiromano5631 3 года назад +2

      Umayads actually conquered HRE-Spain for like 400 years. It wasn't until the Hapsburgs took control of the hispanics that they were able to repel the umayyads. theres a reason why all those hispanic flags from teh 16th century had the HRE- Carlist flags.

  • @banatul6367
    @banatul6367 3 года назад +36

    A video about medieval history seems like a nice touch

  • @frederickoftheartic2209
    @frederickoftheartic2209 3 года назад +122

    "Holy Roman Empire is kinda like king cobras, they're neither kings nor cobras"
    - Pickelhat's last words after being attacked by King cobras released by Holy Roman soldiers to silence Pickelhat

  • @Steev7968
    @Steev7968 3 года назад +138

    "I changed everything!" - Barbarossa
    *dies in a river*
    "No, I don't think so.." - Luck

    • @feurigessiegelstuck233
      @feurigessiegelstuck233 3 года назад +11

      I fondly remember how we learned about Barbarossa in history class and when our history teacher said that Barbarossa just drowned in a random river, the whole class just laughed.
      Great times! 😅

    • @Siegbert85
      @Siegbert85 3 года назад +5

      @@feurigessiegelstuck233 That wasn't uncommon actually. River crossings were dangerous undertakings.
      Many nobles just got Malaria or shat themselves to death... at least Barbarossa died on a crusade.

    • @feurigessiegelstuck233
      @feurigessiegelstuck233 3 года назад +5

      @@Siegbert85 I know, but the way he said it was so funny. He was like "And yeah, he drowned in a random river".

    • @morganbebell9003
      @morganbebell9003 3 года назад

      He's just sleeping

  • @joesomebody3365
    @joesomebody3365 3 года назад +53

    I like the little segments of the "Medieval art" style; though I'm glad the full detail art is still being used for most scenes. The little battle animation at the start for the battle of Tours was great as well, looking forward to seeing more of those.

  • @johnwilliams9730
    @johnwilliams9730 3 года назад +42

    Griff your progress has been absolutely incredible! Watching your content and skill is pretty inspiring and I can’t wait for more of your future content

  • @Unertl28
    @Unertl28 3 года назад +62

    You should do a video about the life of a Roman citizen during the fall of the Roman empire. Also I really loved the Byzantine style art, nice touch

  • @HistoricalWeapons
    @HistoricalWeapons 3 года назад +52

    YES! MEDIEVAL HISTORY

  • @justafurry8498
    @justafurry8498 3 года назад +91

    14:36 I love that England is eating France in the background

    • @gontrandjojo9747
      @gontrandjojo9747 3 года назад +22

      This map is wrong. All these territories in France shown as "England" were part of France, not England. They were under Plantagenet rule and still part of France, not English rule.
      The Plantagenet were French nobles that spent most of their life in France. It's not because they were also kings of England that their French territories were under English rule.

    • @lt3746
      @lt3746 3 года назад +11

      @@gontrandjojo9747 while this is true from a legal standpoint, it is also true that the Plantagenets did not regard themselves as de facto vassals to the French kings, and often snubbed them at every turn. It’s why there were so many wars between the Capets and Plantagenets prior to the Hundred Year’s war, starting in 1202 I believe.

    • @Itachi951000
      @Itachi951000 3 года назад +12

      @@lt3746 But there is an actual denomination coined by historians for all the lands the House of Plantagenet held to avoid this exact same nonsense: it's called the "Angevin Empire". Why didn't they call it the "English Empire"? The Plantagenet being reluctant vassals of the French kings doesn't mean they magically were no longer from France or no longer saw themselves Angevins. They weren't the only lords in France having issues with feudalism and rebelling against the king's authority. Who here is willing to argue with a straight face that Henry II or Richard the Lionheart saw themselves as "English" or thought of their homeland Anjou or their other holdings (Normandy, Aquitaine, etc) as being English or part of England?! It was just not a matter of legality, nobody in the 11th century saw those territories as being part of a foreign kingdom even in practice. Calling the Angevin domains in France "England" is pure historical illiteracy. None of those lands were English in any way, whether in law, culture, language or population. They were ruled by a French noble family that just happened to also rule a foreign kingdom called England. The Angevin Empire is regarded by historians as a perfect example of a "composite monarchy".

    • @YourBoyJohnny94
      @YourBoyJohnny94 3 года назад +3

      @@gontrandjojo9747 Exactly, those rulers of England were Franks who didn’t even speak or saw themselves as Anglo Saxons, Norman England was basically a vassal of France, the titles of duke of Normandy/Aquitaine/Anjou were more powerful than “king of England”

    • @tibsky1396
      @tibsky1396 3 года назад +4

      It was rather the reverse. Since 1066, it is the Anglo-Saxon culture which had been eaten up by the Franco-Normans.
      Modern English is filled with words of French origin because of that.

  • @Jtdm-zg5lc
    @Jtdm-zg5lc 3 года назад +159

    The one dislike is from Pope Adrian

  • @niltomperimneto
    @niltomperimneto 3 года назад +27

    As a history student, I apreciate very much the sources in the latests videos of this channel. Great work!

  • @jankygrunt
    @jankygrunt 3 года назад +20

    I’m loving this dive into medieval history! The art presentations are my fav on this channel

  • @cirbam2747
    @cirbam2747 3 года назад +195

    When The Armchair Historian and the History Matters channels both post videos almost at the same time: *I smell something... And it smells good*

    • @CirBam24
      @CirBam24 3 года назад +25

      And they both are about Germanic tribes who toppled Rome

    • @papadragon695
      @papadragon695 3 года назад +14

      Are you sorta quoting Admiral Trench?

    • @WalkerKinsler
      @WalkerKinsler 3 года назад +2

      @@papadragon695 Nice catch!

    • @kaiseramadeus233
      @kaiseramadeus233 3 года назад +2

      The Armchair Historian makes better videos

    • @coddpedo8946
      @coddpedo8946 3 года назад +1

      @@kaiseramadeus233 history matters makes less in depth but more brief videos

  • @WalkerKinsler
    @WalkerKinsler 3 года назад +63

    These videos just keep getting better and better. I’m astounded by the art in this one, especially recreating art from that time period. It looks like a professional documentary, keep it up!

    • @PraiseTheLordyourGodJesus
      @PraiseTheLordyourGodJesus Год назад

      ‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭6:10‭-‬18‬ ‭Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; and your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints. The bible is no old book. You have to really let Christ open your eyes; to see the world in shambles. Many people say it's a religion to lock up people in chains, and say it's a rule book.. why? Because people hate hearing the truth, it hurts their flesh, it's hurts their pride, it's exposes on what things have they done..people love this world so much, s*x, money, power, women, supercars.. things of this world. Still trying to find something that can fill that emptiness in your heart. You can't find that in this world.. only in Christ, the bible is no chains, it's a chainbreaker. Breaking your sins into pieces... Repent now, and turn back to the true Lord only.. God bless.
      😊😊😊😊

  • @Lucas_70
    @Lucas_70 Год назад +4

    I hate the whole thing where people say “look at how it was a jigsaw puzzle of lesser states that even fought each other” but that was what was happening in every feudal country in Europe. If you have played crusader kings you will definitely understand

    • @Siegbert85
      @Siegbert85 Год назад

      Sure, but most other realms got unified under a central government at some time whereas in the HRE the fragmentation was kinda encouraged because it kept local powers in check.

  • @mbathroom1
    @mbathroom1 3 года назад +119

    Last time I was this early, the Holy Roman Empire was an actual empire.

    • @jusu8961
      @jusu8961 3 года назад +8

      so never?

    • @Bernie2032
      @Bernie2032 3 года назад +5

      The Holy Roman Empire was not Holy, Roman, or an Empire

    • @mam0lechinookclan607
      @mam0lechinookclan607 3 года назад +20

      @@Bernie2032 It included rome for a long time and many italian city states and the pope was more ore less head of state and for some time it was the strongest empire in europe. You can't just judge its name for it's last less glorious days.

    • @mbathroom1
      @mbathroom1 3 года назад +28

      @@Bernie2032 what an original quote not like that is under every single HRE video

    • @zeitscar1486
      @zeitscar1486 3 года назад +8

      @@mbathroom1 it's getting really old, always hearing Voltaire's quote getting paraphrased in every related video. I get it though.

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 3 года назад +158

    The people that destroyed Rome: Boo Rome!
    The same people that destroyed Rome: Yay Rome!

    • @asdewrt
      @asdewrt 3 года назад +47

      Germans: Look at me, I am the Rome now

    • @liamjm9278
      @liamjm9278 3 года назад +3

      "He was a hero, I just couldn't see it"

  • @armaholic5949
    @armaholic5949 3 года назад +220

    German and French: We are Rome
    Meanwhile in Constantinople: Are we a joke to you?

    • @doodlebug4360
      @doodlebug4360 3 года назад +23

      Considering what happened during the 4th crusade. Yes

    • @GlizzyGoblin757
      @GlizzyGoblin757 3 года назад +23

      @@doodlebug4360 literally happened hundreds of years later

    • @doodlebug4360
      @doodlebug4360 3 года назад +7

      @@GlizzyGoblin757 I know, but I find it funny that groups that the Romans used to subjugate on mass would turn the tables on them to this extent

    • @robertjarman3703
      @robertjarman3703 3 года назад +15

      @@doodlebug4360 Things were not always so clear cut with those Romans and Germans. The Roman emperors found that it was often much more politically expedient to use Germans as bodyguards because their Roman bodyguards, the Praetorian Guard, kept assassinating them and literally auctioning off their throne. As the Germans kept coming into Dalmatia, Cisalpine Gaul, Gaul, and even down to Hispania, and the Romans moved the capital to Mediolanum and Ravenna, the Romans adopted Christianity which is not native to Rome, Germanics made up the backbone of the army and were granted autonomy in the provinces, Rome became pretty Germanic. If the language had spread too without much resistance from what was left of Vulgar Latin, and in Spain if the Muslims did not conquer it, we would probably think of most of Rome´s holdings in the North side of Mare Nostrum as being largely as German as any part of modern Germany.

    • @TarihTiryakisi
      @TarihTiryakisi 3 года назад +1

      Istanbul*

  • @CaribbeanHistory
    @CaribbeanHistory 3 года назад +41

    Today is a beautiful day: Armchair Historian, History Matters, Epic History TV and Kings and Generals all uploading content the same day!

    • @njb1126
      @njb1126 3 года назад +3

      That’s what happens when James bissonette is feeling generous enough to fund all four.

    • @pbibbles
      @pbibbles 3 года назад

      Even Simon Whistler uploaded a video on Caesar's bridge over the Rhine on his "Side Projects" channel. Lol

  • @TheLocalLt
    @TheLocalLt 3 года назад +214

    This video is a reality check for all those who use Voltaire’s quote, as it was definitely Holy, Roman and an Empire at this point in time, 962 until the 30 years war, and even then it still remained a (now religiously divided) empire after that until Germany’s defeat by Napoleon. After Napoleon, the empire was effectively restored as the German Confederation, all of these were a single realm, despite the parallel sovereignty of their members (something continued even under Prussian leadership post-1866).
    This is also not unlike France pre-Louis XIV, the Nordic kingdoms, or Poland-Lithuania

    • @al.5333
      @al.5333 3 года назад +24

      The comparison with federal states such as America or modern Germany really doesnt match up. These two have actual federal governments, that leave everyday business to the individual governments of each state, but have a legal mandate to represent all states in foreign affairs and are also able to instruct the state's governments for special occasions. This doesnt apply to the Holy Roman Empire by any meaningful measure. Important states as Brandenburg (later Prussia), Saxony or Bavaria had their own envoys, ignored any resolution of the Reichstag they didnt like, and caused the failing of empire-wide taxing, for example the Reichspfennig. While you could technically call it an empire, you could also call it a union under nominal rule. The actual empire was restricted to Austria after the Habsburgs campe to power.
      After both the 30 and the 7 years wars, Prussia effectively nullified any beyond-nominal reign of the Austrian Habsburgs over the German states. The many different variations of German unions and federations that formed in the aftermath of the Napoleonic Wars definitely didnt restore the empire in Germany. The Austro-Hungarian empire was a member state in some unions, but while holding the presidency in the Deutscher Bund, it was neither the formal ruler nor part of a greater German empire. Austria and Prussia always either struggled over the control over the few federal institutions or simply ignored them. Another example of a nominal construct that hardly applied to reality.
      Tl;dr: Dont call it an empire unless you are content with applying the word to a nominal construct. There is a reason we differ three German empires instead of two.

    • @Siegbert85
      @Siegbert85 3 года назад +21

      It wasn't an "empire" because it functioned like an empire typically does. The name merely reflects the understanding of medieval theology. The "Roman Empire" was a universal constant, it couldn't have been called anything else.
      Bringing up Voltaire's quote is wrong for many reasons, but if you want to be technical: it wasn't an empire by common standards.

    • @archivesoffantasy5560
      @archivesoffantasy5560 3 года назад +10

      Voltaire was at least half right
      Wasn’t roman. Kind of an empire at the start for sure, but the further the timeline went on the weaker it got. And really not like a real empire. But it was definitely holy

    • @Siegbert85
      @Siegbert85 3 года назад +35

      @@archivesoffantasy5560 It was Roman in the way "Roman" was understood during the High Middle Ages, not as an ethnic term but a universal world empire of Christianity.
      Medieval people didn't regard the Roman Empire as extinct. They saw a Roman/Christian world held up by the church in Rome. All that was lacking was the figurehead of the emperor which they eventually got with Charlemagne.
      It wasn't until much later that the so-called "Holy Roman Empire" was understood to mean the feudal kingdom of Germany.

    • @archivesoffantasy5560
      @archivesoffantasy5560 3 года назад

      @@Siegbert85 I see, but as a modern history reader it’s hard to see them as roman or an empire but I get your point

  • @Siegbert85
    @Siegbert85 3 года назад +15

    15:25 "From this point onwards no future emperor would ever seek to gain or consider the validity of their title based on papal endorsement"
    That's flat out untrue. The popes would crown the emperors for another 300 years. The last one to receive a papal coronation was Charles V in 1530.
    Plus the pope did gain the right of approbation of the German kings which was eventually abolished in the Golden Bull of 1356.

    • @hevi0
      @hevi0 3 года назад +1

      im pretty sure he was being sarcastic

  • @cthomaspeasant3059
    @cthomaspeasant3059 3 года назад +125

    The HRE is a sadly under examined bit of European/German/French history

    • @oilslick7010
      @oilslick7010 3 года назад +45

      No it isn't....underappreciated by pop culture and the public at large maybe...But the HRE is central to both Medieval and Early Modern history and is studied and regarded as such by historians.

    • @MrDanChandler
      @MrDanChandler 3 года назад +8

      ... and maybe Italian

    • @cthomaspeasant3059
      @cthomaspeasant3059 3 года назад +2

      @@oilslick7010 Underappreciated, there it is, I forgot the word

    • @oilslick7010
      @oilslick7010 3 года назад +2

      @@cthomaspeasant3059 Ha, then we actually agree :)

    • @dinofelis9343
      @dinofelis9343 3 года назад +3

      I would not go that far as at least in germany the "Old Empire" is quite well known

  • @fishyplayz2865
    @fishyplayz2865 3 года назад +16

    This guy has so much historical ornaments it’s like he’s living in a goddamn museum

  • @Ory-Hara
    @Ory-Hara 3 года назад +19

    I love this medieval history, so much intrigue and it all happens over such a long time

  • @yomer355
    @yomer355 3 года назад +13

    I love the animation on this channel, relatively easy to do and at the same time very pleasant to look at.

  • @notBrandonNova
    @notBrandonNova 3 года назад +173

    HRE: After destroying Rome and becoming "Rome"
    We were bad but now we're good

    • @Siegbert85
      @Siegbert85 3 года назад +9

      When did they destroy Rome?

    • @780418barsa
      @780418barsa 3 года назад +13

      @@Siegbert85 they were formerly the tribes that conqueared the western roman empire and then they called themselves roman lol

    • @Siegbert85
      @Siegbert85 3 года назад +36

      @@780418barsa Those were different people. The Western Roman Empire was conquered by the Ostrogoths and later the Lombards. What became the German people were the Franks, Saxons, Bavarians, Alamanni.
      Plus they didn't call "themselves" Roman. It was the empire that was Roman which they felt to be in charge of. Important difference.

    • @joaomartins9800
      @joaomartins9800 3 года назад +3

      It worked well in China (Western Liao, Yuan and Qing Dynasties)

    • @jimmysavile69
      @jimmysavile69 3 года назад +4

      @@Siegbert85 The Goths and Lombards were the ancestors of the various Germanic tribes

  • @time_warriors
    @time_warriors 2 месяца назад +1

    "As a medieval history enthusiast, I have to say that this video was very engaging and informative. I especially enjoyed the part about Frederick Barbarossa and the establishment of the Holy Roman Empire. Keep up the great work, and I look forward to your future videos!"

  • @ChaoticPsychoXD
    @ChaoticPsychoXD 3 года назад +7

    I love the form you use to display battles, which you also used in the Crimean war. Can't wait to see more of your content.

  • @zgoodt
    @zgoodt Год назад +3

    Just a minor detail, the Umayyads already lost battles before, but this time, they couldn't bother moving forward after the battle of tours, because they had to focus on stabilizing the large realms they now controlled. as with great extension comes internal challenges.

  • @conanthecipher
    @conanthecipher 3 года назад +92

    Your production quality is really going up, the art and animation in this video is superb. Keep it up, Griff!

  • @ecksdee1637
    @ecksdee1637 3 года назад +56

    Last time i was this early, the Roman Empire was still a city

  • @liqiz1755
    @liqiz1755 Год назад +5

    There are so many reasons why Germany is famous, ranging from its famous festivals like Oktoberfest and Christmas markets, to the automobile production of brands like BMW and Mercedes-Benz, to its sporting success with icons like Michael Schumacher being Germans.
    Then all the philosophers, Kant, Nietzsche or even Marx.
    Then classical musicians like Beethoven, Mozart, Bach and many more!
    Dont forget Holy Roman Empire!
    According to the British journal "Physics World", the greatest physicist of all time was also German, Albert Einstein.
    Ofc WW2 too, but the nation with the most self-repentance afterwards and worked it up, see memorial, reports at school. Holocaust denial is a punishable offense in Germany.
    I think Germany is one of the most remarkable and interesting countries in the world.

  • @afnaansyed5975
    @afnaansyed5975 3 года назад +125

    "Mom can we get the Roman Empire?"
    "We have the Roman Empire at home"
    The Roman Empire at home:

    • @nonnayerbusiness7704
      @nonnayerbusiness7704 3 года назад +15

      In the case the Roman Empire we have at home was more stable and functional than the one you are yearning for. How many Roman Emperors died in their beds compared to Holy Roman Emperors?

    • @afnaansyed5975
      @afnaansyed5975 3 года назад +6

      @@nonnayerbusiness7704 I was referring more to territorial size and military strength, but yeah you're right

    • @keikei2942
      @keikei2942 3 года назад +13

      @@nonnayerbusiness7704 I don't get why people fetishize the Roman Empire so much it was hilariously unstable

    • @nonnayerbusiness7704
      @nonnayerbusiness7704 3 года назад +10

      @Martin Casinillo 43 of 69 Roman emperors died violently, and there were many revolts and attempted usurpations that never succeeded.
      There were civil wars in Rome almost as often as the US has federal elections.

    • @destubae3271
      @destubae3271 3 года назад

      @@nonnayerbusiness7704 I'm guessing most empires were horribly unstable in ancient times.

  • @Lazarus_1.0
    @Lazarus_1.0 Год назад +18

    As Austrian, I am proud of our history and our role in the HRE

    • @erick2214
      @erick2214 Год назад +1

      I always play as Austria in EU4 to enjoy a truly game of thrones experience. Once Austria develops the Renovattio imperii, at that time everybody else know that they are fked up

    • @SBF_983
      @SBF_983 4 месяца назад

      Of history, maybe. Of what your politicians are doing now, no.

  • @chriskeller8262
    @chriskeller8262 4 месяца назад +3

    Judging from the thumbnail, I would say it’s because Charlemagne has the holy hand grenade of Antioch. To blow his enemy to tiny bits, in thy mercy.

  • @MrMichelangelo
    @MrMichelangelo 3 года назад +21

    4:35 isn't that a sound effect from EU4 - Papacy/Curia Window?

    • @VivaChandles
      @VivaChandles 3 года назад +9

      Same with the eu4 new emperor sound effect at 12:38

  • @hmvollbanane1259
    @hmvollbanane1259 3 года назад +10

    There is one very important aspect missing that is in my opinion essential to understand why the Karolinger were so invested in protecting the pope and strengthening the papacy:
    The Karolinger were initially the Hausmeier of the Frankish monarchial dynasty of the Merowinger (e.g. Karl the Hammer/ Charles Martell) was still the Hausmeier (~Huskarl, some kind of prime minister responsible for the administrative work of the King's court).
    The usurpation of the house of the Merowinger was extremely problematic, as they had been Kings prior to the adoption of Christianity by the Frankish elite, as Frankish tribal law and custom demanded that the King possessed the King's Heil, a concept based in the pagan believes, so the Karolinger as Hausmeier were illegitimate to become Kings in name despite having held the true power for multiple generations at that point.
    The usurpation became possible by founding their new monarchy in Christianity and becoming kings by god's grace as opposed to by inherited Heil. Hence the position of pope that gave them this power staying in power and having stability was of outmost important to the Karolinger for maintaining their own right to rule (and hence their attempts at taking that role of being the foundation stone of the monarch's rule as the leader of the church away and into their own power after they had established and secured their rule).
    This is also imo one of the key motivations of the Karolinger's determination to wipe out the old Germanic paganism, as before them the Kings were accepted on cultural reasons by everyone regardless of faith (probably even more so by their pagan subjects for which an usurpation would have been sacrilegious) and only the upper class had widely adopted Christianity as it made dealing with their newly subjugated people easier, however with the usurpation this question changed and anyone that held on to the old religion was practically denying the new monarchial dynasty the right to rule, which is why they turned to enforcing conversion and exterminating the old belief among the entire population down to the farmers and conquering as well as forcefully missionizing their neighbouring Germanic tribes that still held strongly to the old gods (like the saxons)

  • @petrapetrakoliou8979
    @petrapetrakoliou8979 Год назад +1

    I like the way you draw medieval masonry in the background, it does feel more genuine than the regular kind of masonry they show in video games.

  • @jordengg3629
    @jordengg3629 3 года назад +6

    These videos are just getting more and more beautiful

  • @Don-ds3dy
    @Don-ds3dy 3 года назад +10

    Carlemon's death was probably one of those successful assassinations that were never revealed to be assassinations.

  • @thomasgoetz8178
    @thomasgoetz8178 3 месяца назад +1

    Thank you so much for highlighting the sponsor so early in the video. That gave me the opportunity to shut off the video early and ask RUclips to never recommend any videos of this channel again.

  • @dylanwfilms
    @dylanwfilms 3 года назад +8

    Love the subtle EU4 references like the election sound 12:37

    • @phobics9498
      @phobics9498 3 года назад +2

      There was also the catholic religion tab sound when the pope was elected

  • @wilsonelder5277
    @wilsonelder5277 2 года назад +6

    Voltaire: The Holy Roman Empire was neither Holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire
    Also Voltaire: A witty saying proves nothing
    Tells you all you need to know there.

  • @TimelessDiscoveries68
    @TimelessDiscoveries68 Год назад +1

    History is not merely a record of events; it's a living testament to the resilience, creativity, and interconnectedness of human civilizations. Let's embrace the lessons and stories it has to offer.

  • @juant7110
    @juant7110 3 года назад +5

    Your guy’s art is so good

  • @hedera3640
    @hedera3640 3 года назад +16

    That golden bust in the background actually contains some of charlemanges bones :D It's on Display in Aachen

    • @Incaned
      @Incaned 3 года назад

      :D

    • @granville7
      @granville7 3 года назад

      are you sure the bones in it are from Charlemagne? how likely is that?

    • @hedera3640
      @hedera3640 3 года назад

      @@granville7 As someone who only visited the exhibition, I Have no way of being 100% shure.
      However, He spend a good portion of his life in Aachen. Especially his late life. He also Died in Aachen.
      He started buildinf a churche there (Aachener Dom), where the statue is kept in the treasury. The also have the sarcophagus containing the rest of his skeleton (except the bones of one of his lower arms and hand, which are said to be in an other statue).
      So since no matter what, the churche that keeps this statue does in fact keep his entire skelleton, I think it is not unlikely to be true. Thing is, they probably cant test it for without damaging the statue.
      they did however give one of his leg bones to scientists once, who said he was likely to have been about 184 cm tall.
      Sorry for the long answer and the spelling mistakes. English is not my fist language.

    • @granville7
      @granville7 3 года назад

      @@hedera3640 no doubt there are bones in the sarcophagus and the other containers. even from a tall man and we know Charlemagne was quite tall compared to his contemporaries. however, he died 1,200yrs ago and that place saw a lot of warfare over the years. surely, there has been some looting and violent upheavels around the church but we still maintain the notion his bones were never subjected to any of this? no abbot tried to raise money by selling his bones as artifacts or somesuch? never anything of the sort?

    • @hedera3640
      @hedera3640 3 года назад

      @@granville7 I know the history of Aachen. I grew up there, and i totally get your point. Especially the bone in the statue can't be properly testet without damaging the statue. However, the bones where testet in as far as I know 2014, and the scientists came to the conclusionon, that they where almost certainly real. Almost, because at some point in the 50s the bones where sprayed with formaldehyd to conserve them, which destroyed the DNA at the surface, which led them to not beeing abe to do DNA tests without destroying parts of the bones. Also it ist missing the bones which are enclosed in statues and bones which where send away as relics. sadly my scources are all in german and partially not digital.

  • @markusorth5450
    @markusorth5450 3 года назад +2

    That Deutsch Adler at the end was on point.

  • @Irsih1
    @Irsih1 3 года назад +33

    To be honest, ive been watching alot of your videos lately, theyre very informative and the art style is very cool and cute. Im suprised you aren't more popular.

    • @guibin
      @guibin 3 года назад +3

      because youtube shenanigans

  • @americansmark
    @americansmark 3 года назад +7

    More of this! The holy Roman empire was an fascinating time in European history.

  • @AStoryteller-for-fun
    @AStoryteller-for-fun 11 месяцев назад

    3:19, I'd also like to add that most of the power that Charles Martel had was not only gained Martel himself but his father Pepin II, who had been given the title of Duke and Prince of the Franks. Not only that Martel had divided the kingdom as was tradition between Pepin and Carloman, his other son.

  • @dargon1084
    @dargon1084 3 года назад +6

    Damn these animations are next level, on top of the already stellar writing and research

  • @randomaccount5736
    @randomaccount5736 3 года назад +119

    HRE be like: THIS IS FINE!

  • @ronaldgrove3283
    @ronaldgrove3283 Год назад

    The drawing of Empress Irene with the wall of gold coins behind her was awesome !

  • @SS5Ghaleon
    @SS5Ghaleon 3 года назад +5

    12:36 That's the "New Emperor of HRE" sound from EU4!!!

  • @rocknrollkid90
    @rocknrollkid90 3 года назад +24

    Can you review, "The Yugoslav Wars," that began with the death of Josef Tito, Slobodan Milosevic's rise into power, the end of the Communist party of Yugoslavia, the split, and the International Criminal Tribunal that was lasted for 24 years?

    • @dirckthedork-knight1201
      @dirckthedork-knight1201 3 года назад +2

      I support this

    • @loyalpiper
      @loyalpiper 3 года назад

      I also support this

    • @imperiumCirca41
      @imperiumCirca41 3 года назад +2

      I also also support this even tho im your political Opponent who totally Will not assassinate You in 1978 for power causing my country to fall apart 👀

    • @juan_vater
      @juan_vater 3 года назад

      Yes, please!

  • @augustuscaesar8287
    @augustuscaesar8287 3 года назад +1

    11:11
    That face... It's like Otto knew he was trolling the papacy. What a Chad.

  • @olbradley
    @olbradley 3 года назад +4

    16:31 There it is! He kept it!

  • @sunburstshredder
    @sunburstshredder 3 года назад +10

    "Lawsuits not having been invented yet", that is some comedy gold right there

  • @augustusdijorno6015
    @augustusdijorno6015 3 года назад +1

    When the bright idea popped in my head that i should use this channel for source to my exams i was happy with myself

  • @theemperororsomethingidont6897
    @theemperororsomethingidont6897 3 года назад +7

    Armchair Historian: uploads a video about the HRE*
    Me a German: Ich bin Geschwindigkeit

  • @jacobh.667
    @jacobh.667 3 года назад +4

    I’ve always wanted to know more about the HRE! You should do more content on this time period!

  • @condemoussa3891
    @condemoussa3891 4 месяца назад +1

    I'm so glad I stumbled upon this ancient history documentary. It’s incredibly well done!

  • @RoyalDog214
    @RoyalDog214 3 года назад +5

    Woah, you went from showing the stream to finishing this project. Nice work!

  • @ItsLunaRegina
    @ItsLunaRegina 3 года назад +61

    Please do a Byzantium video. It can be about any event, I just love Byzantium. ^_^

    • @jimmysavile69
      @jimmysavile69 3 года назад +12

      Fall of Constantinople?

    • @Arkantos1900
      @Arkantos1900 3 года назад +11

      The issue is that the eastern empire has a long fucking history, from 395 to 1453.

    • @OperatorMax1993
      @OperatorMax1993 3 года назад +7

      dude i love the Eastern Roman Empire too :D

    • @ItsLunaRegina
      @ItsLunaRegina 3 года назад +10

      @@OperatorMax1993 OMG and you called it by it's proper name, the Eastern Romans. Marry me!

    • @OperatorMax1993
      @OperatorMax1993 3 года назад +5

      @@ItsLunaRegina the one thing that annoys me the most is they always call them "Byzantines" (they prenounce it as Boaizenteens or Baizanteens for some whatever reasons instead of Eastern Romans or just Romans)

  • @OnyeNacho
    @OnyeNacho 3 года назад +3

    15:30 - Reminds me of a certain human faction in a certain, famous tabletop game series created in 1987...

    • @HadamacikTheProphet
      @HadamacikTheProphet 3 года назад

      and its leader is both prince and emperor who can summon the elector counts? :D

  • @jabezcreed
    @jabezcreed Год назад +4

    I'm also genuinely curious how many similarities end up being coincidental like the idea of convergent evolution in biology. Such elements as marrying a slain enemy's wife or daughter, murdering a father to seize power, etc. are universal human story elements, so it's certainly interesting to see when they become so closely associated with myths in a region.

  • @jango1970
    @jango1970 2 года назад +4

    Truly excellent in every way: research, explanation, graphics, pace. Wondering if you will do a sequel to show history of HRE from Frederick to the end in 1806. Would like to see that. Thanks

  • @sovereign831
    @sovereign831 3 года назад +2

    Great video been learning this lately!

  • @sturmtruppler6909
    @sturmtruppler6909 3 года назад +5

    These animations just keep getting better with every video.

  • @Blastoice
    @Blastoice 3 года назад +6

    Griffin, Please will you do evolution of warships from 1600-1918 please? There isn't a great deal of videos on this. Thank you :)

  • @briancline7349
    @briancline7349 3 года назад

    You know what this channel needs? What every good show needs, a catchy theme song and intro for each video (like what History Buffs has… see their Braveheart video). It’s Very Important lol.

  • @GoguMacaroana
    @GoguMacaroana 3 года назад +4

    I have a question, if I may -- at 4:28, it is said that the Frankish Kingdom became the most powerful nation in Europe. Would this be true strictly for Europe or for the world and if not, who, internationally, was stronger?

    • @TheLocalLt
      @TheLocalLt 3 года назад +2

      Probably the Umayyad and Abbasid Caliphates, and whichever empire was in control of China at the time.

    • @madavkisna6360
      @madavkisna6360 2 года назад +2

      @@TheLocalLt I think it was the Tang Dynasty who ruled china

  • @ritvikupadhyay7120
    @ritvikupadhyay7120 3 года назад +6

    i am pretty sure youtube is going to demonitize this masterpiece too

  • @wejuggernautentertainmentl3156
    @wejuggernautentertainmentl3156 2 года назад

    That beat during the mindstone promo was dope

  • @cornpop1363
    @cornpop1363 3 года назад +5

    *The HRE lasts 1,000 years*
    Napoleon- "that's enough existing, HRE. Time to knock that sh*t off."

  • @cubbycramer
    @cubbycramer 3 года назад +10

    9:03 pizza time

  • @everssonnascimento4601
    @everssonnascimento4601 3 года назад +1

    The art looks amazing!!

  • @Ciech_mate
    @Ciech_mate Год назад +4

    Destroying rome and then calling yourself the roman empire is like leatherface butchering a person and then wearing their face afterwards

  • @dylanfox2928
    @dylanfox2928 3 года назад +12

    Imperial Roman Senate: “We can legitimately crown someone as Roman emperor”
    The dark age popes: “I am the Senate!”

  • @derrick031072
    @derrick031072 Год назад +1

    very interesting video… Thanks for posting this! 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

  • @РимскийОрел
    @РимскийОрел 3 года назад +11

    By the way, about the Holy Roman Empire, modern historians in Europe believe that it is a direct continuation of the Western Roman Empire. As proof, they cite the following example that the Franks were associated not only with the western but also the eastern empire. For example, the wife of Emperor Arcadius was Elia Eudoxia, daughter of the Frankish commander of the Roman army Bavton and mother of Emperor Theodosius II and Empress Pulcheria.
    In the west, in 358, the emperor Julian the Apostate made the Salic Franks citizens of the empire, their legal status was called (dediticii). Later, the King of the Franks Childeric I, for his loyalty, subsequently received from one of the last Roman emperors the office of dux [en] (governor) of the province of Belgica II, which is mentioned in a letter from Bishop Remigius of Reims to King Clovis I, written in the late 490s.
    In 508, the Byzantine embassy arrived at Chlodwig in Tours, informing him that Emperor Anastasius I had elevated him to the dignity of patrician and recognized him as the Roman governor in the province of Gaul. Anastasius also sent him, as a sign of formal recognition, royal insignias - a chlamydah, a purple tunic and a diadem. By this act, Byzantium expressed its approval of the anti-Gothic policy of Clovis and his acceptance of the Christian faith. For the Christian population of Gaul, this meant an additional confirmation of the legitimacy of the power of Clovis as the governor of the Byzantine Empire!

    • @estebanod
      @estebanod 2 года назад +3

      Link one historian who actually believes that

    • @y_skytaro2271
      @y_skytaro2271 Год назад

      And then Justinian removed the western government

    • @digiorno1142
      @digiorno1142 2 месяца назад

      @@estebanodAny with a functioning brain. Charlemagne and his successors were literally crowned “Emperor of the Romans” using the vacant crown of the Western Roman Empire.