@@jacobwillis6065 Talent? Absolutely. But you can’t handpick teams and be up there with the greatest ever. Great player. No doubt. He just can’t be in the top 5.
@@JohnBeezy3 u tripping and I don’t feel like doing this debate today lol… but honestly the greatest players I ever saw play are mj, lebron, shaq, Steph and Kobe…I watched these guys dominate for years with my own eyes and I was born in the 90s
@@jacobwillis6065Ohhhh. No wonder. If I was born in the 90s I would probably feel the same. You were still wet behind the ears when Jordan was in his prime. I was born in the 80s. But you are just looking at talent. I am looking at more than that. For instance, I’m a Cowboys fan. Emmitt Smith was my favorite player and has the most yards and TDs ever for a RB. But I would probably take 5 other RBs over him when it comes to the greatest.
Lol it's the same stories no one fears lebron it'll just be stories about how good of a teammate he is or how good he takes care of his body. That's it.
Really? You mean that vaunted eastern conference that featured the best of the best; like Indiana, Washington, Detroit, Chicago, Boston. What a tough playoff format. Lebron, had the easiest run to the finals from 2011-2018. His true greatness, was when he gets to the finals and loses, a total of 6 finals losses to be exact. Laughable, how weak the east was!
@@abin199805-09 dude averaged 20 and 8 played all 4 years, won every award you could possibly win in college and a championship, all American all 4 years too. Psycho T was not to be played with
@@michaelrobinson5457these are facts bro. In college, for his time, he was that dude!! All his opponents hated him but you wanted and needed a guy like this on your team
Those 2012/2013/2014 Heat/Pacers series were *battles* man. Oldschool, heated, and a lot of defense. Indiana matched up very well against the Heat with their bigs. Bosh was good but West/Hibbert way out muscled him on the glass. The Big 3 Era was such entertaining basketball honestly. They weren't like the KD-Warriors and coasted to 2 easy rings. They had to fight and really earn those championships.
@@Mike1122.what does your finals record have to do with being clutch? Melo, Gilbert arenas, Dame are all considered clutch and they never even made a finals.
Getting there 10 times is crazy but it's insane ppl would rather lose in the 1st round than lose in the finals just so it doesn't affect their finals record lol
@@Mike1122. Jordan didn't even win a title in wizard now that's the worst. He can't win without Pippen and Phil. He only knows triangle system he has good perimeter shooting but low IQ in team sports, all he knows is iso that's why he didn't survive in the modern era, the Moment T'Mac, Carter, Iverson came he realized time to quit.🤣
Those Miami years were spectacular and LeBron was unstoppable(still is today amazingly)- I remember Tyler - he was a thorn in Miami’s side! He’s referring to the series in 2012 - second round.
I think you should y’all should start inserting the clips of the plays being described in interviews. Like show the Lebron layup so we can visualize the story with y’all better 💯
@infinitymixtapes9562 really...where is your source for that? I've never heard that before. Dwight never said that nor Nash 🤷🏾♂️. Meanwhile, Wade said they created the Heat because of Kobe 🤔. Dwight was traded to the Lakers for Bynum. Thus, let's see your sources because it sounds like you're just talking like LeBron fans always do lol.
That Indiana team was scary. Roy hibbert was not a great player, but when he played the Miami heat, that dude looked like Hakeem. Nobody could guard him. They were the better team, but LeBron was not from this world.
lmfao what are you talking about roy hibbert was a great defensive player for that pacers run even made all star never looked like hakeem on offense tho
@bilindabutcher8913 36...you know...the actual age group that was around when the world hated him and then the media for some reason just stopped hating him 🙄🤔
Tyler my old popular bluff buddy hope all is well with DOC and Ben I wish I had support to make it but hey everyone path is different hope everyone the best
They are going to need a mini-series just for his fellow stars' stories, like how PG13, DeRozen, and Play have had therapy sessions on PG's podcast talking about the dominant decade.
dude d rose was nice but ya trying to paint him as if he was magic back in those days. Lebron james was just on another level simply because of his iq was matching his athleticism and that was just unfair
I'm a Carolina fan and watched every game Hansbrough played at UNC. Love Hansbrough. But anything he says about LeBron needs to be taken with a grain of salt. He came into the league right as LeBron not only was entering his prime but was also joining the super team Heat. Of course that is going to skew things in LeBron's favor for someone playing against him for the first time. So many LeBron fans always want to pretend his first 7 years with the Cavs where he mostly underachieved (NBA-best record two years in a row 09 10 with no Finals appearances) just didn't happen. Or that his first year with the Heat blowing the Finals to an old and decrepit Mavs team didn't happen. The problem really with any LeBron analysis is guys either focus too much on the good or too much on the bad. Very few people actually objectively recollect his career as a whole. And those are the only people worth paying attention to about LeBron, regardless of whether you played.
LeBron haters scratching their heads now! These testimonies about how great and feared Bron is unreal! Jordan was Great but he wasn't Bron! MJ was the most overrated player of all time. I have him 3rd all time behind GOAT James and Kobe!
Most turnovers in history. 2nd in missed FGs. Losing to a vet team with a stacked team in 2011. Losing finals record. Had to form a super team to beat Kobe. He's far far far from being the GOAT. He's barley top 10, and that's being generous. I would say Lebron is top 25....and he would be like number 23. He's great, but nowhere near Kobe, and especially nowhere near MJ.
Why do people give Lebron credit for joining a super team on Miami? He joined a guy that averaged more ppg than him the season before and a guy averijg 24 and 10 the year before also. Yet...we pretend he didnt do that 🤷🏾♂️. At the time...he had no rings and Kobe Bryant went to 3 straight finals without all that help and led two olymoic team's Bron was on 🤷🏾♂️.
I want you to do me a favor, go pull up the stats on basketball reference heats vs pacers 2013 playoffs and tell me what did wade and Bosh did in that series? Because all what haters can remember is what wade and Bosh did in they prior years but can't remember what they did with lebron on the heats.
@@Ghost-rb6cw I don't care what they did...I dare you to say that without them, Bron would have had the same success? I don't care about nothing else you're saying. The moment he teamed up...he sold out and showed he's not built like Jordan and Kobe. If Bosh wasn't on that team...why would Roy ever have to leave the paint? And if Roy doesn't have to leave the paint...what the hell is Lebron gonna do haha? Gain a Mike and Kobe-like midrange jumper in one night that he hasn't mastered in over 20 years? Just wade and bosh being on the court give Lebron the advantage. Wade was a champion without Dude...what the hell was Lebron before Miami? A loser...that's what he was.
@@mamba4ever113 you can say the same thing about Jordan and Kobe. What have they done without pau, Shaq, and Phil Jackson? They never beat legit teams in the finals but some how lebron not built like them? Lebron is proving sir....Jordan & Kobe was not let's be real lol. And you said lebron couldn't shoot against Indiana??? Lol lebron shot a high percentage from the midrange in that series and from 3, he shot 44% from 3 on 34 shot attempts, you're a clown that just repeat the same none sense like every typical lebron hater/ Jordan and Kobe fanboy would say.
@@Ghost-rb6cwcomparing Pau gasol and scottie pippen to wade Love bosh ad ray allen rashad lewis russ melo and all the allstars Lebron played with is sick. Makes no sense bro.
What a crock of crap! Lebron had the easiest run to the finals than any player in NBA history. The east was so weak the NBA should have changed the format and made it the best 16 overall teams should be in the playoffs. 5 of those east teams wouldn’t even make it.
@@betacancri1476I’m not fooled by this LeBron hype like you are. I guess when you’re use to watching LeBron beat trash teams for 15 years it’s hard to notice. I bet your eyes were wide open when he got handled in the finals 6 times. Spurs, Dallas, Spurs, GS, GS, GS. Why didn’t the King win any of those finals, He had Wade, Bosh, Miller, Allen, Kyrie, Love, Smith, Shump, and Thompson. That’s a who’s who of NBA talent.
NOBODY is on MJ’s level. If he wanted to play for stats and not chips, he could have put up stats that even Lebron couldn’t have caught and never retired.He averaged over 30 while almost averaging a triple double. 9 RB’s and 11 assist. All he cared about was winning chips. Nothing else mattered. Lebron cares about stats
The longer we go on, the more players tell stories that directly contradict the average LeBron hater’s ridiculous takes on this legend’s career.
No one thinks Bron was a bad player or that he isn’t top 10.
@@JohnBeezy3top 10? That’s hate right there lol top 3 easy
@@jacobwillis6065 Talent? Absolutely. But you can’t handpick teams and be up there with the greatest ever. Great player. No doubt. He just can’t be in the top 5.
@@JohnBeezy3 u tripping and I don’t feel like doing this debate today lol… but honestly the greatest players I ever saw play are mj, lebron, shaq, Steph and Kobe…I watched these guys dominate for years with my own eyes and I was born in the 90s
@@jacobwillis6065Ohhhh. No wonder. If I was born in the 90s I would probably feel the same. You were still wet behind the ears when Jordan was in his prime. I was born in the 80s.
But you are just looking at talent. I am looking at more than that. For instance, I’m a Cowboys fan. Emmitt Smith was my favorite player and has the most yards and TDs ever for a RB. But I would probably take 5 other RBs over him when it comes to the greatest.
As he gets closer to retirement we will start hearing a lot more of these stories..
Already been hearing these stories where u been
@@jamesjameswhattheladyssayl7657he said alot more
Lol it's the same stories no one fears lebron it'll just be stories about how good of a teammate he is or how good he takes care of his body. That's it.
@lebumjames1373 your literally his biggest fan...stop
@@lebumjames1373yeah we can tell you stupid because they also talk about his iq and how they could not guard him 😂
Bron had the east in a chokehold for over a decade. That’s true dominance.
Really? You mean that vaunted eastern conference that featured the best of the best; like Indiana, Washington, Detroit, Chicago, Boston. What a tough playoff format. Lebron, had the easiest run to the finals from 2011-2018. His true greatness, was when he gets to the finals and loses, a total of 6 finals losses to be exact. Laughable, how weak the east was!
@@Mike1122.the hate is crazy 😂 even if all that’s true he still had to win those games to get to the finals
Facts
@@Mike1122.it wasn’t no worse than the expansion teams era..
@@Mike1122.lol. K so who do you have over Lebron? Too obvious, child. you a hater
This dude was THE dude in college. I’d like to hear some of those stories.
when was this?
@@abin199805-09 dude averaged 20 and 8 played all 4 years, won every award you could possibly win in college and a championship, all American all 4 years too. Psycho T was not to be played with
@@michaelrobinson5457these are facts bro. In college, for his time, he was that dude!! All his opponents hated him but you wanted and needed a guy like this on your team
where is he now, he sounds like a stud @@michaelrobinson5457
@@abin1998Besides JJ Redick, he has the most decorated college career in the last 25 years.
Tyler gotttaaa slide on the Jeff Teague pod
Why?
@@cousinchris5851cuz Indiana a wild place
Dude sounds like he played in the 80s. He should tell us more stories.
😂😂😂😂
Planet Earth is weird,he might have played in the 80s for all we know 🤷🏾♂️
WHY IS THIS SO TRUE. If you close your eyes his voice literally sounds like an old former player that retired in the 90s 😂
Sounds like pat mahomes
All Indiana white it’s sound like this when they get older
Those 2012/2013/2014 Heat/Pacers series were *battles* man. Oldschool, heated, and a lot of defense. Indiana matched up very well against the Heat with their bigs. Bosh was good but West/Hibbert way out muscled him on the glass.
The Big 3 Era was such entertaining basketball honestly. They weren't like the KD-Warriors and coasted to 2 easy rings. They had to fight and really earn those championships.
Don’t tell them that they don’t like the truth 😅
The heatles SHOULDVE been more dominant than they were if we being honest
@@jahmadh304 Dwade’s decline/injuries really cut that Heat run.
@@jahmadh304 Yeah but Wade's injuries threw a wrench into all that.
@@jahmadh3044 straight finals appearances and back to back rings isn't dominant?
Thank you, Tyler, for telling the truth about Bron. 💪🏿
He’s lying the east was weak!
@@Mike1122. You're weak
@@Mike1122. the only one lying is you being in denial of Le🐐👑James greatness 💯🤣
@@Mike1122. The 2013 pacers was the best defensive team in the league. 🤡
@@knucklesaukuso5086that’s why the WEST has won 16 of the last 21 championships. The conference doesn’t lie.
The player podcast era is one of the best things to ever happen to basketball tbh
Haters: Lebron not clutch.
NBA players: who played with him says different thing.
Facts bruh lil boys curry andold heads mj fans just doing the most to hate bron instead of appreciating greatness
So he was clutch when he lost 6 finals?
@@Mike1122.what does your finals record have to do with being clutch? Melo, Gilbert arenas, Dame are all considered clutch and they never even made a finals.
Getting there 10 times is crazy but it's insane ppl would rather lose in the 1st round than lose in the finals just so it doesn't affect their finals record lol
@@Mike1122. Jordan didn't even win a title in wizard now that's the worst. He can't win without Pippen and Phil. He only knows triangle system he has good perimeter shooting but low IQ in team sports, all he knows is iso that's why he didn't survive in the modern era, the Moment T'Mac, Carter, Iverson came he realized time to quit.🤣
Those Miami years were spectacular and LeBron was unstoppable(still is today amazingly)- I remember Tyler - he was a thorn in Miami’s side! He’s referring to the series in 2012 - second round.
I think you should y’all should start inserting the clips of the plays being described in interviews. Like show the Lebron layup so we can visualize the story with y’all better 💯
The NBA won't allow use of their footage like that.
@@MrAlphadisiac RUclipsrs use snippets all the time.
Depends guys! If there’s audio it’s less than 5 seconds or you’ll get flagged. Appreciate the input and be better for the next ones!!
You can skip the audio and let your voice be the soundtrack of what is happening
@@RunYourRaceTLskip the audio the guest would be describing the play
This man documentary going yo be FIRE 😂😂
JJ and Tyler were my childhood college basketball memories. I watched every game
Tyler look like his last name Manning 😂😂😂
Bron gonna have a hell of a documentary when he retires…
I can say I went to school with Tyler . Him , his oldest brother Greg. His youngest brother Ben was friends with my little brother. Poplar bluff mo.
T Hans was one of those guys you loved as a teammate and hated on the other team
That layup was very clutch from lebron!! Pacers should’ve took that game honestly.
A layup is clutch for a player that’s 6’9” 250 pounds and athletic. Ok.
@@Mike1122. what are you talking about man? Stop being a loser
@@Mike1122.Do u even know the meaning of clutch ?
@@AnonymousKD17dude on every comment hating
@@Mike1122. It was a game winner goofy. How many of those do you see?
Hans seems like he can tell some great stories
lol wut he's struggling to speak English the whole time, how did he clear SATs
@@banyarling speaking extremely normally
@@RhinoSea setting the bar extremely low
@@banyarling have you never heard a guy talk before
@@RhinoSea yes, I've heard bright people as well as oafs. Tyler here sounds like an example of the latter.
Love this pod
It seems like there were ALOT of players scared of Lebron. I thought he didn't make his opponets fear him?
Did he scare Kobe?
@@mamba4ever113 You realize Kobe recruited for Dwight and Nash as a direct response to the Heat right?
@infinitymixtapes9562 really...where is your source for that? I've never heard that before. Dwight never said that nor Nash 🤷🏾♂️. Meanwhile, Wade said they created the Heat because of Kobe 🤔. Dwight was traded to the Lakers for Bynum. Thus, let's see your sources because it sounds like you're just talking like LeBron fans always do lol.
@@mamba4ever113 because of Kobe? You do know LeBron’s record head to head vs Kobe right?
@@infinitymixtapes9562 you do know Kawhi has a winning record vs Bron also right? So is Kawhi better the Lebron because of that?
He was a menace in the East once he started to win for sure!
Tyler was a beast at North Carolina lol
My high school team played Tyler in 2005. Tyler was unstoppable but his brother Ben was the TRUTH!
Psycho T! My favorite Heel! Salute!
Tyler should make his own podcast. He was the greatest player down there in North Carolina. Will besides Jordan but he was up there
Psycho T went crazy. Always put his heart on the court loved him and Ty Lawson
Seriously?
@@gregorywillis8400😂
there are currently
70thousand podcast, these days ..
That Indiana team was scary. Roy hibbert was not a great player, but when he played the Miami heat, that dude looked like Hakeem. Nobody could guard him. They were the better team, but LeBron was not from this world.
lmfao what are you talking about roy hibbert was a great defensive player for that pacers run even made all star never looked like hakeem on offense tho
Bro what? Why do people give Bron credit for playing on Miami smh
@@mamba4ever113how old are you? I'ma guess 12
@bilindabutcher8913 36...you know...the actual age group that was around when the world hated him and then the media for some reason just stopped hating him 🙄🤔
@@mamba4ever113my bad, true I forgot younger people love Bron they didn't see that early Miami failure
Loved the video and would love to see similar videos on drop voicings! Keep up the brilliant work!
I didn’t know Tyler and Pat Mahomes had the same voice actor
Lol!!!
Tyler my old popular bluff buddy hope all is well with DOC and Ben I wish I had support to make it but hey everyone path is different hope everyone the best
Real time documentary happening in front of us, imagine how will they create a doc for Bron after his career ....
They are going to need a mini-series just for his fellow stars' stories, like how PG13, DeRozen, and Play have had therapy sessions on PG's podcast talking about the dominant decade.
Tyler we appreciate you appreciating greatness of goat james 🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡🐐🐐🐐🐐👑👑👑👑👑👑👑
His speaking voice sounds exactly like Patrick Mahomes 😂😂😂😂😂😂
bros holding the mic like a tooth pick his hands are so big. Respect to Tyler.
He sound like a high school football coach
That series was great, nobody won back to back games that series
Only saying this bc DRose gave him and his boys that work. 😂😂😂😂
And Bron didn't? lol
dude d rose was nice but ya trying to paint him as if he was magic back in those days. Lebron james was just on another level simply because of his iq was matching his athleticism and that was just unfair
That was 2011
I could fall asleep to this guy
Taking over games, running the offense, unstoppable, best player on the court. Common themes in a typical lebron story
Tyler gotta make a few stops on some podcasts lol
Nobody played with more effort than Hansborough, I remember watching him at UNC loving every second
His voice was not what I expected
Lebron the goat🐐
Lbj is going to be a lot more appreciated when he's retired
Swear this my favorite Tar Heel
Liked this dude on the raps. Always looked like a mouth breather but he's actually intelligent
the title alone gets no love
Is the guy with the mic an NBA player?
Indiana was the only franchise to take Mike's Bulls to a game 7
He’s got that Chris berman voice
I'm a Carolina fan and watched every game Hansbrough played at UNC. Love Hansbrough. But anything he says about LeBron needs to be taken with a grain of salt. He came into the league right as LeBron not only was entering his prime but was also joining the super team Heat. Of course that is going to skew things in LeBron's favor for someone playing against him for the first time. So many LeBron fans always want to pretend his first 7 years with the Cavs where he mostly underachieved (NBA-best record two years in a row 09 10 with no Finals appearances) just didn't happen. Or that his first year with the Heat blowing the Finals to an old and decrepit Mavs team didn't happen. The problem really with any LeBron analysis is guys either focus too much on the good or too much on the bad. Very few people actually objectively recollect his career as a whole. And those are the only people worth paying attention to about LeBron, regardless of whether you played.
He sounds exactly like I thought he would
Whyd he have to describe the Knicks like that !!! lol “we actually got past them pretty easily”😡
Truth hurts...
The knicks was first round that year.
Second and they went to 6 games I believe
I remember Miami getting swept by Dallas.
What year was this ? Lol
Damn, I feel old now 😅
Psycho T.....HE WAS A MONSTER for us in Indiana, but we NEVER gave him the MINUTES he Deserved. Dude was a Big Ten Player of the YEAR!
ACC player.... UNC chapel Hill
Tyler was a problem in College!!
Goat James
I haven’t heard that man’s name since I was in highschool Jesus Christ!
Eli manning mixed with Aaron rodgers
Wow all the other basketball pods get real nba players
Theo had to call this scrub
Shout out TH
He gets it
Bron haters maddddd right now😂
Jesus bro, let my mans speak. sheesh!
Your the reason why John wall didn’t commit to unc 😂😂😂😂
Tyler was solid
Media nobody fear bron. PG couldn't get by Lebron,they ask Norman why didnt yall win because of Lebron lol. But nobody Feared him
Haters look like 🤡Now that the players /opponents who actually played speaking out on Bron GoatNess🤷🏽😊
Come on now of course he great to you Tyler wowwwwww
Theo i need that shirt brodie.
🦁👑🐐
Players typically have better insight lol....they played against the man
LeBron haters scratching their heads now! These testimonies about how great and feared Bron is unreal! Jordan was Great but he wasn't Bron! MJ was the most overrated player of all time. I have him 3rd all time behind GOAT James and Kobe!
Most turnovers in history. 2nd in missed FGs. Losing to a vet team with a stacked team in 2011. Losing finals record. Had to form a super team to beat Kobe. He's far far far from being the GOAT. He's barley top 10, and that's being generous. I would say Lebron is top 25....and he would be like number 23. He's great, but nowhere near Kobe, and especially nowhere near MJ.
Hey! Hey! Show me a great player that respects lebron James cuz WHO IS THIS GUY?? This bum is just happy someone wants to talk to him
Love Psycho T but can he please clear his damn throat
Choke artist
I thank my lucky stars every year that he told John wall to fuck off so he went to Kentucky
Why do people give Lebron credit for joining a super team on Miami? He joined a guy that averaged more ppg than him the season before and a guy averijg 24 and 10 the year before also. Yet...we pretend he didnt do that 🤷🏾♂️. At the time...he had no rings and Kobe Bryant went to 3 straight finals without all that help and led two olymoic team's Bron was on 🤷🏾♂️.
Okay hater
I want you to do me a favor, go pull up the stats on basketball reference heats vs pacers 2013 playoffs and tell me what did wade and Bosh did in that series? Because all what haters can remember is what wade and Bosh did in they prior years but can't remember what they did with lebron on the heats.
@@Ghost-rb6cw I don't care what they did...I dare you to say that without them, Bron would have had the same success? I don't care about nothing else you're saying. The moment he teamed up...he sold out and showed he's not built like Jordan and Kobe. If Bosh wasn't on that team...why would Roy ever have to leave the paint? And if Roy doesn't have to leave the paint...what the hell is Lebron gonna do haha? Gain a Mike and Kobe-like midrange jumper in one night that he hasn't mastered in over 20 years? Just wade and bosh being on the court give Lebron the advantage. Wade was a champion without Dude...what the hell was Lebron before Miami? A loser...that's what he was.
@@mamba4ever113 you can say the same thing about Jordan and Kobe. What have they done without pau, Shaq, and Phil Jackson? They never beat legit teams in the finals but some how lebron not built like them? Lebron is proving sir....Jordan & Kobe was not let's be real lol.
And you said lebron couldn't shoot against Indiana??? Lol lebron shot a high percentage from the midrange in that series and from 3, he shot 44% from 3 on 34 shot attempts, you're a clown that just repeat the same none sense like every typical lebron hater/ Jordan and Kobe fanboy would say.
@@Ghost-rb6cwcomparing Pau gasol and scottie pippen to wade Love bosh ad ray allen rashad lewis russ melo and all the allstars Lebron played with is sick. Makes no sense bro.
this clown talking. where gerald henderson when u need him
Psycho T !
Psycho T!!!
Tylor is a great example of why a great college player never ends up being a great NBA player.
Is he a junkie?
The interviewer is terrible and dont know it smh
Intro corny 🌽
Appreciate you bro 🙏
@@RunYourRaceTL always 🤞🌽
hater
@@AshtonWilliams-oo6cp I’m not the only one that agrees 😎
@@Brloder why watch then hater
What a crock of crap! Lebron had the easiest run to the finals than any player in NBA history. The east was so weak the NBA should have changed the format and made it the best 16 overall teams should be in the playoffs. 5 of those east teams wouldn’t even make it.
You need a bucket for those tears bro?
@@betacancri1476I’m not fooled by this LeBron hype like you are. I guess when you’re use to watching LeBron beat trash teams for 15 years it’s hard to notice. I bet your eyes were wide open when he got handled in the finals 6 times. Spurs, Dallas, Spurs, GS, GS, GS. Why didn’t the King win any of those finals, He had Wade, Bosh, Miller, Allen, Kyrie, Love, Smith, Shump, and Thompson. That’s a who’s who of NBA talent.
@@Mike1122.Miller? Allen? Shump? Thompson? You never watched the game of basketball. Clearly you have your agenda to push
the way this guy tells these stories is boring
I like tyler hansbrough he calls balls and strikes , no bullshat !
NOBODY is on MJ’s level. If he wanted to play for stats and not chips, he could have put up stats that even Lebron couldn’t have caught and never retired.He averaged over 30 while almost averaging a triple double. 9 RB’s and 11 assist. All he cared about was winning chips. Nothing else mattered. Lebron cares about stats