Are We WRONG About Need for Speed Payback?
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- Опубликовано: 12 фев 2024
- The most controversial Need for Speed of modern times, also (kinda) the reason that Ghost Games was closed by EA... were we wrong?
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Hate to admit it but true, I’d always be grinding for the best parts in payback just to have even more speed and acceleration. And people are saying they were locked behind a slot machine to progress through the game? Nah you could beat it with some of the worst parts
Oh and it also made me feel a lil more attached to the cars I had, since I’d be playing with them constantly and never rlly had to switch to a different car. I’d often grind the money to buy a certain car, then whenever I’d unlock it, I went straight into the shop to upgrade it to finish the rest of the events and finish the game
F off-road events tho, hate those…
That aspect was super addicting. If you sunk enough time you could make Absolutely any car incredibly fast. I had a miata that would beat almost anything. Other nfs games wouldnt let you do that
@@linklink-_-6399Also you were able to make offroad builds that does the quartermile in 8,0 seconds flat, great for drag racing
@@linklink-_-6399you can do the same thing in ug1, ug2, mw2005, prostreet, 2015...
Nobody wants RNG to dictate their car progression in NFS
I completely agree with you. Except that I absolutely LOVED the off-road races.
The separation of the garages in Unbound is what killed the game for me. I built some really good cars. No way I was gonna grind 100+ more hours to get them back
In my opinion this was a cool idea. Separation single from multi makes game more fun
@@Chomik4499 it’s not fun having to grind everything back again when the payouts were non existent and nobody wanted to race. Gave up after that
@@G8ghtymannyI think I wouldn’t mind the separation if you could just buy the car with money but NOOOOO YOU NEED TO DO CHALLENGES
@@asteronomical and that’s another thing. Money and challenges gate keep buying cars in Multiplayer. The payouts were small as hell at launch and increased by like 15% in later updates.
I’d have to grind 100+ hours to get all my shit back. What do they take me for? A shut in? I have a life outside of video games
The sp was so bad I didn't even want to play the sp anymore so I just stuck with the mp and it is quite fun. I'm glad it's easy to get money in mp
NFS Payback is UNDERRATED
Yes!!!😅
Fr I tried heat but nah that was shit, I played payback two times so like finished it two times and I enjoyed it 2x times
@@kaicarguy22im installing it right now imma start playing this so much I just finished 2015 Need for speed
@@Aspecter803 I played payback 5 times and I still can’t get enough
Yeah playing nfs heat felt empty for me for some reason which I'm currently on nfs payback then going to nfs 2015 after then maybe back to unbound
I'll give this to payback: the heists have the absolute best in-game cinematics ive ever seen in a racing game
yea, but that's not a very good thing to be good about, is it? heists should not even be mentioned in a need for speed game, that's missing the point from the get-go
@@kinazura590it’s a heist for a car in a racing game… there’s literally nothing wrong with that.
@@user-nn6ow3xt5o i find it out of place in this series. it should stay in fast&furious
@@kinazura590 well it wasnt all heists. 80% was plain racing.
@@kinazura590how is it missing the point? NFS became known and loved by being a racing game with a story and police chases. This game's story involves getaway driving, which frankly took the series far too long. Heists should not only be mentioned in NfS, they should be central to it.
NFS payback was hella underated tbh, Driving at the night was a different vibe tbh! And one of the last nfs with a good sound track too! And the cars in the garage look so good!
True, I kinda like Unbound better though because it has less microtransactions and the upgrades system (including the Class system) is miles better imo.
NFS Heat soundtrack is good dawg
Thats crazy bro, i think need for speed undercover was the greatest game ever. 😂
@@samurairavo hell nah, it has only 3 good songs, the rest of it is trash, especially day time soundtrack
@@danielgonzaga1664 were being sarcastic (i think, at least i was)
Knowing that someone in the nfs dev team will probably see this makes me happy
Cancelled some DLCs, cancelled Toyotas, unfinished story, but there is Aki Kimura in PB.
from concept arts, payback was meant to be just like heat with events, illegal street racing and casino had actually a purpose instead of just being here for the same of being here lol
there is also multiple references to some old nfs games and lore. the protagonist from prostreet (cooper i think) is also there during the final race as one of the opponents.
Yeah I enjoyed that little wave to ProStreet n NoiseBomb
Payback we always one of my favorite games. But it does have alot of problems with online mode, for example people will try to ram you every time you try to drag at the air strip.
Nice. I like Unbound more than Payback and Heat but I do agree I like Payback too despite its flaws.
They ram ya for fun. Give it back to them
Ramming was the fun part, in some lobbies thats all people did for fun, they didnt drag on the air strip, they just rammed eachother.
@@WSPonPlayStationandXbox Payback had literally *_ZERO_* flaws.
I still remember the lead up to Payback and Theo getting to cover the game at E3 before the gameplay streams at the end of 2017. I feel so much nostalgia for that time that no other NFS since has managed to match
hot take, nfs payback is the most underrated recent nfs game. i love it, yes it has problems but its fun in my opinion and i like the class system and upgrade system. Loved the map and the derelicts.
Derelicts and super builds were the best part of the game
fr its such a great feature actually building your car from scrap and seeing it progress@@hinu4206
Indeed, and although the lack of free roam cops was very unfortunate, I think the bait crate chases where really enjoyable, especially with the excellent pursuit soundtrack playing in the background. I find the evening graphics in this game to be particularly stunning as well.
I agree, man. Though the map was kinda bland imo. I wasn't sure about the upgrade system at first, but it grew on me.
Agreed. Payback is one of my faves. The most underrated pick IMO.
Im willing to die on this hill:
Payback was fun despite it having multiple problems.
It should have never had those stupid cards for upgrades. I get the Vegas theme but the gambling for parts should've been left out. And the characters were a bit annoying. But, the online was very fun to be honest. and the drifting was handled better than all the other Ghost games because of just how smooth and fast it was. I really did enjoy how they didnt try to do either grip or drift with it, it was fully arcade drift handling and it was very fun and I'm still not sure why everyone has a problem with NFS having actual arcade drift handling like actual arcade machines
Online wasn’t there at launch and there was no online free roam either. And because it’s a premium priced game it shouldn’t feel like an arcade game.
@@user-nn6ow3xt5o yeah i dont think arcade style handling should disqualify a game from being a normal price thats stupid. I agree that its very stupid they didnt have free roam cops and no online freeroam at launch but neither does Hot Pursuit 2010 and most people enjoyed that game
@@succulenttrash3343 hot pursuit 2010 at least had pvp to being with it took them months to implement it into payback.
@@user-nn6ow3xt5o there was multiplayer set lists at launch with payback what are you talking about
@@user-nn6ow3xt5o it has been and will always be arcade, price points don't decide that.
Drag racing on the runway in online was peak
Reminder: BlackPanthaa was in NFS: Payback promotional video (that one with driftin' McLaren)
I still play it till this day, yeah it had problems but i still loved it
I don’t play it but that’s why I liked it cause it had categories and that helped me as a racer/gamer
I still play too
Same
I just started playing. Was in sale for $3.
The one thing the speedcard system did right was make upgrades marginal and frequent and after every race your car would get a little bit faster. Compared to unbound where you max out your car early in the week and drive the same car for the rest of the days.
For Unbound, that's not entirely true. I mean, the point of the Class system for the storyline is so you build one specific car for one Class, then use that throughout the rest of the storyline but also grinding out for more cars to be able to fit in for other Classes. You can't just use one car and upgrade that to S+ to use for the whole storyline. You need to think about what cars should be in one Class so they'd fit those races available to you. That's basically why the whole Class system exists in the first place. You shouldn't just upgrade and max out one car to S+ Class and make that the priority for all your cars that you proceed to buy in the future, that'll just completely ruin the implementation and the whole point of Unbound's Class system in the first place.
What I liked the Most was this minimal delay when using NOS. That Little delay with the Sound before the nos kicks in was great
Payback is hella underrated, im starting to slowly feel nostalgia for it.. jeez this game is getting old
Lol im replaying it after a very long hiatus and im enjoying it so much
I remember the challenges with Matty C😂😂😂😂
This is where I still prefer Heat, the high heat races that give you better parts. I'm on the fence between letting us just unlock the part for all cars and grinding them to earn the part each and every time.
What i do think payback did good was adding the additional perks of acceleration vs top speed or having both and so on and so forth.
People can hate this all they want, but in my personal opinion payback is very severely underrated. Yes the upgrading system shouldn’t be the way it is, and there aren’t any free roam cops, but the way the game feels and the way the cars feel when you’re going fast I think feels better than unbound and maybe heat.
You can modify any car that you have into drift mode or more grippy normal mode, by upgrading to better differential lock and then go to handling settings while driving and slide the option to drift.
Biggest thing I miss about payback which is very minor but I absolutely loved it’s how the dirt would fly when you would drive through it, it looked beautiful in off-road racing but heat and unbound got rid of it and now it’s not that fun to drive through dirt bc the visuals just look stale
*in payback, you take corners in circles, not in squares.*
this is a saying that gets thrown around a lot in the payback crew i run - controversial (i think) opinion: the powersliding handling model of payback is more fun than the "realistic" model of unbound, and i think thats the underlying reason for why its more fun just driving around. Also, nowadays its standard practice to use mods to max out your car to its legal limits, max performance is kind of a given so it actually comes down to the driving skills, also due to the game (with the exception of the regera on highways) being acceptably balanced in its cars
The drift handling was light years better than heat or unbound
Not really, the drifting was great. But I'm more of a grip kinda guy so I like the handling and physics of any modern NFS game, especially Unbound's, you just need to build the car right.
I gave up unbound, the handling felt like a mobile game
Kinda disagree. Heat generally has better handling but shit drifting.
Payback had horrendous handling on off-road but IMO, has the best drift physics of any modern NFS games.
Unbound is also good with physics but it just doesn’t feel exciting.
@@CoSmicGoesRacing Payback has bad offroad handling, but the race handling always starts the drift.
In Heat the cars sometimes struggle to begin the drift when taking a corner
Tbh, the only problem I have with payback is the performance customization, other than that I thinks it’s a great game
Totally agree
The best thing with paayback is the progression. You need to grind through boss' crews and eventually the boss itself. And after a lot of time grinding and beatng against bosses and when the final race you met the bosses you've beaten before and eventually winning the race, it's just so satisfying and worth it. It doesn't left you with "That's it?" or "There's nothing more?". Just "Man the grind is worth every second"
It seems to me that dividing the cars into classes like in NFS Payback would be a good move because they would have more room to show off when it comes to second control (drift). In Payback, unfortunately, they did something a bit like they used to do in GTA Online, except that in NFS they slightly modified the racing driving model, and in GTA they added tires with low grip, "supposedly drifting, but what kind of drift is it?" But in the last update (GTA) they added a completely new one. driving model (drift) and it turned out to be good. If in the new NFS (or try to save Unbound) they did something similar, that when you buy a car for a race it has a racing driving model, and when you buy a car in the drift class you get a car with completely different handling, for example with the UNITE mod or something similar (I don't mean the guidance from Forza because NFS would lose the atmosphere and dynamics of 200+mph in a corner), it seems to me that there could be something to it (if I remember correctly, in older NFS there were different guidance, in it was different in normal driving and racing, and in drifts it was different) if Rockstar could add it in one update, I guess they can do it too (I find it hard to believe that with one slider you can change the lead by 180 degrees and for it to be good)
One thing that piss me of from unbound is the library, is now separated from single player and multiplayer
When you buy the same car and apply the livery (or color) you are wasting 2 slots from the same car for no reason and i what if i wanted to make more i can't i have to delete a duplicate slot
Every time i want to play online i have to remove the liverys from non duplicated slots
Payback is my favourite Ghost Games NFS title and will be like that forever
Totally agree about the driving in Payback. It felt really good. Huge upgrade from 2015. Again, I don't love the upgrade system, the characters were weirdly written and voice acted, and honestly the map felt too bland to me, mostly visually. (Guys I'm tired of deserts)
But man the driving is nice and snappy, it doesn't feel eerily similar to ocarina of time block pushing puzzles, and the drifting is so good feeling compared to every other (new) NFS game in the last decade. Sure, I don't like that it was faster than grip. But when they made it slower in NFS Heat, they made it so slow that it just didn't feel good at all. I think it felt better in NFS Unbound, but I find it lacked good drift events. And it STILL didn't feel as good as Payback. I guess the solution would be to made drift cars have the same handling, but when grip cars drift, they slow down a bit more. Not as much as in Heat, but maybe a pinch faster than Unbound.
Or... honestly I think grip handling could have been tweaked. When you're grip turning on a wide sweeping corner, you seem to lose speed and don't accelerate much. I think grip handling should also have made it so that you can accelerate more easily and lose less speed when gripping around a corner. Look at Forza. Drifting is slower, but it doesn't feel like crap.
I think they had the idea of slowing down drift, rather than slowing down drift AND speeding up grip.
As for the upgrade system, I still prefer buying parts, but this was one of my favourite interpretations of the loot based upgrade system. Being able to buy high end parts, but also having the additional perks that ACTUALLY affected how your car behaved rather than 2.87% better braking.
I was never on the bandwagon hatred of the game. 60 hours flew by when I played it. That means something.
I know its a hot take, this game is one of 2 resons why i love cars, i have a weird liking to it and i dont think it really deserves all the hate
I would be 100% satisfied with a modern need for speed if heat's story was as long as payback's and had unbound's car list.
i loved payback as it was my only recent nfs game besides maybe you could say the run but the drift event was so fun to grind out for cards and yes i absolutely agree upgrading your car by luck is ridiculous, but if they added it like a little feature after each endgame car you can maybe get just a little bit more top speed or acceleration for endleasly grinding, itd definitely give a good progression feel
Aside from the shipments, I quite enjoyed the way they setup the classes and upgrade system in Payback. I remember feeling like I wanted to grind for that slight edge of parts. If the presentation had felt more diegetic, a lot more people would have been more receptive of it
Agreed. What car fits in what class was so arbitrary, and the idea that the parts available to you were random was bonkers.
Payback overall was one of the best. It just had a poor performance upgrading system. But that was easy to work around if you knew what to do
The modern NFS games use the same formula but still can’t seem to perfect that action racer feel
It’s weird they feel almost like a mix of action racer and simulator racing games
3:08 I remember taking turns at this event with my little brother we'd take the different cars we built and compete on drift courses *we were sweaty as all hell I'd always pick the less competitive car even after he got good 😂 now that was a load of fun*
Imagine if this game had splitscreen
@@WayneKerr69420 that would've been epic
@@blackcometoriginal5424 yeah
Question. Are you planning to make more Payback content or just this going to be the last of it for now ?
I decided to get all achievements on that game yesterday i was able to get the The climb (play 10 ranked events) which technically speaking is not available but i was lucky some other players were trying at the same time. Got the online achievements cleared and now i just need to complete the activities. Payback is not bad when you want to play it.
I honestly like payback a lot, it’s definitely top 10 nfs for me. After I beat it I usually delete my progress so I can restart it, idk if it’s the music or maybe it reminds me of prostreet, but I really like it(minus the upgrading thing)
Why do i keep seeing your vids so damn early
My need for speed payback does not even launch/open anymore, ive tried everything to fix it put it is still the same.
Keep up the amazing videos Theo 👍
This reminds me of the time where you used to play need for speed payback ngl
A game shouldn’t be inflated for content and grind just for wasting the players time. A game should instead give reasons for the players to come back, like fun events, events you can play with your friends, like what criterion is doing with Unbound. They should also listen to the player base, just like criterion are doing.
Funnily enough i have most hours in payback. Unbound is catching up tho. I genuinely think unbound multiplayer is really fun, especially link-ups
Also yea the drifting 100% is the best in payback.
@@slezyorlaUnderstandable. I'm more of a grip kinda guy because I find drifting in racing games (in general) to be particularly terrible probably just me but you know what I mean. But I can agree Payback's drifting is the best we've had since Rivals, if not, even better. I love grip racing in Unbound because it just feels much more satisfying to slow down for a corner and full on grip it that you get rewarded with a huge amount of burst NOS to get back to speed fast. What do you think of Unbound? I think it's a good game, although I could say that for any modern NFS game (except NFS 2015 because that was the game I genuinely had no choice but to drop my controller for). I rate it a 9/10, yeah it's flawed but I love what they've done with it and I find it to be the best modern NFS game I've ever played. Just my opinion. Just out of curiosity, do you have Discord? If so, could we add each other and chat in DMs? My Discord is wsp_disc
Unbound is dogshit.
I played this game during covid as it was free on PlayStation plus and I hadn’t played NFS since Rivals. I had no expectations coming into payback and while it definitely has its flaws I instantly fell in love with it and got the platinum trophy for it after just a few months
Payback and 2012 are the most hated NFS’s for the wrong reasons only. Unbound makes people appreciate just how great past NFSs truly was, especially the pats ones
6:33 who is the artist?
After underground 2 payback is my favorite nfs i saw a playthrough of it in 2017 when it came out and ive never wanted a game so bad i got it for Christmas and played through it multiple times since made many friends while drifting in freeroam with randoms in the session the memories ive made on this game i wont ever forget
It's true that the drifting in Payback is the most enjoyable. I don't know about console fellas but, the grinding and slot machine thingy doesn't bother me at all when I can just install some money mods via FMM, or just simply use Cheat Engine.
Honestly, I had more fun playing Need For Speed Payback and actually unlocking every single achievment then playing Need For Speed UNBOND. Plus I also prefer the drift handling in Payback. The UNBOND drift handling is trash.
Hey mahn will you make a video for need for speed mobile
I would say that the linear storyline along with the randomness of the upgrade system was actually such an interesting take. I feel like the change occurred in an optimal time in which nfs started becoming more open world focused. Imagine implementing most wanted upgrade system of only getting parts on each level- people would be incredibly miffed.
Plus this game has probably the best racing layouts in nfs and as much as I hate off road racing the layouts were amazing
I think the feature from Payback called 'bait crate' should be adding to Unbound. That giving $50,000 (day) and $25,000 (night)
I think it should work off of the heat system; the higher your heat, the more money you earn, no matter what time of day. This way it would at least give the player a reason to level up their heat.
@@MightcommentThat's what Unbound does anyway doesn't it? lol.
The higher your Heat Level, the more cash you earn.
Not to mention the 'Getaway Driver' auxiliary option. That gives you more cash from escaping the chase at any Heat Level, but reducing the times between reinforcements. An even better reason of wanting to raise the heat.
@@WSPonPlayStationandXbox I meant for the bait crate idea, but that’s a good point.
This game is something i still love to play and watch...i think it has aged quite well personally anyway
Nfs unbound was my 1st platinum trophy due to grinding all the billboards street art ,long jumps 😢
I keep going back to payback for speedcross and drifting events. Loved having the separation of drift, drag,race, offload cars. The supebuilds. A next gen version with tomatoes and continue the story would be awesome
Idk why they didn't continue having speedcross in NFS games. That's like the funnest thing there is in all of'em
*Theo, 2015 had preformance upgrades you had to LEVEL UP for. Just like in your precious Black Box games.*
why are you so mad? chill out bro your salt is palpable especially in that last sentence 😂
@@SlyJordie Maybe Theo should stop spreading lies?
@@ReboyGTR 🤓
@@WayneKerr69420 So? Theo hating Black Box now for having ”mHu pRoGrEsSiOn” instead of relying on RNG?
Weird flex but ok.
@@ReboyGTRYou dont get Blackpanthaa's point. He loves the Payback upgrade system because its incredibly grindy after 18 parts, and you can always try to make your car even faster, he does not like the rng side of it though just like you.
I played NFS Payback alot when i was in foster care. So I love it for those nostalgic memories I have from a safe space.
I still play Payback. To this day. Almost every day. No joke. It's my favorite NFS game ever. My favorite racing game ever. And my favorite console game ever. No lie. I'm probably the biggest fan of Payback. Nothing is wrong with it. Everything about the game is good. I love the voice acting, the story, the progression, the upgrade system, the Slot Machine, the Speed Cards, the micro transactions, the side bets, the handling, the offroading, the different car types, the visuals... and so on. Everything people hate about it, I love. Everything people love about it, I love MORE. I'm sorry, but I've not played any other NFS games besides Rivals, 2015, Payback, and Heat. I know I've missed out on a lot of classics. But from those games I've played... Payback. All day, every day. What I need to do is get PS+ again and find people that actually still play the game. But even if I can't, I still play the game. I even gone through the whole game 2 whole times. Or is it 3 now? 🤔
I don't know if it was like this on launch, but now if you do rolls for cards, they will always be on par if not better than your current parts. So if you want to brute force a maxed out car asap, you just keep rolling the same car part until it's lv16 then roll for the brand you want and then brute force the triple perk rolls. It's a boring way to upgrade a car, but at least it's not full RNG where you're at lv16 and might get a lv2 card or something.
Do you offer that rug on your head in your merch shop?
I absolutely loved grinding the best car parts in payback. Also loved that in payback you can race against bots online...
i think just parts having more depth to them is a big factor in continuing to play after beating the game or maxxing a car. because even if you have maxxed a car out you may not have the best perks on it. Perks are a very important thing to me and payback did it so well even tho they had it as speed cards...
I feel like in unbound I forget cars I've already maxed out cause there's no point in using them anymore and ill just buy a new one. With payback it kept me using the same few cars because it took a while to ever get them as perfect as you wanted performance wise.
i cant believe there are people actually defending speedcards
I dont mind RNG but would like it unlocking more realistic parts like the w16 or a rotary etc.. also likevthe night runners style build where so many different elements are looked at. The crew parts where everyone has the same build is more boring and i could imagine a summit with different builds fir a particular car
There's a very funny and awkward moment in the game which is not related to the story but when you start the league Silver SIX gallo and Tyler are high school friends and after the long time no see during the race gallo tries to refresh tylers old memories how they both crashed a 65 mustang during high school and Tyler was blamed for it now this part is over for now😂. Now comes they funny part i was searching for delericts parts with MAC driving and tyler calls mac he questions out of no where that did he find his uncles 65 mustang and mac says im on it and tyler says good luck 😂😂😂. Man they worked on this game super hard idk why people keep hating.
Nostalgia, back when the Nobeds used to glitch this game out to absolute madness
straight facts spoken. thos cards in payback.. whyyy? ... lol... problems with unbound, 1. No parts inventory (lotta wasted cash) 2. those heat levels, first hour in the game all i say was heat 4&5 (also still had random police spawns that arent visible on the map when tryna hide) ... and also whyy do i gotta keep back by cars to a specific rank to participate in races.. i didnt really like that part of it
After this game they went on the ”less is more” route. Think about all the things u could do in this game; missions, drag, roaming racers, derelicts, drift, offroad. Now all we have is races and drift events with two titles (drift and takeover). Seems like more they refine the games the less content they have
i never played unbound cause i never bought a ps5, but how does it rank nowadays compared to when it first came out? never felt like it was worth it from an outsider point of view but maybe those who got a lot of time with the game can maybe give me a rethink?
i'd be interested to know how you'd compare NFS Rivals to the NFS entries in the last 10 years. i know you ranked it low on your tier list, but it looks like it's aging better than the others. i found myself playing Rivals for a good couple of weeks recently because it was actually quite enjoyable (whereas Heat was relatively boring and Payback just feels meh).
Nfs unbound is a good game except the story it’s not good but we play for racing not for the story right?
Ok, what's up with unbound? I tried it twice, second time i have it around 8 hours and started to truly like it but what about cops? All of my fun time was ruined by constant pursuits, I felt like I cannot really roam the streets? Is there a mechanic that Im missing or that's by design?
I loved NFS Payback when i played it (i played it after nfs heat came out) and it felt just good and have a grinding system that make sense and rewarded you every time you raced and not something so plain and simple as paying to upgrade your garage to have everything unlocked, and when i checked the game ratings and most people dislike the game, it got me confused bc it was so much more enjoyable than others nfs in my opinion, and its one of the games that got me hooked on drifting 10 times more than any race game i played before, I still think the game is very underrated.
Didn't grow up with racing games, excluding Asphalt, Payback was my first NfS, so I have a sense of fondness towards it.
although welcomed, the problem with nfs unbound is the fact that its multiplayer was an open world and you had a divide in the online where people didn't want to race because there was a public event or they were building/fine tuning their cars in the garage. I say this then remember nfs "Most wanted (2012)" and "Burnout Paradise". I think they need to sit down and think about how their multiplayer is going to function because you can't please both sides.
On another note, the thing you described was the almighty chase and satisfaction of building the car you want through the grind which many a "Destiny" player has fallen victim to (grinding strikes/raids for better loot); mind you "Destiny 2" has severly watered that down which pleases some but, when you get everything what is there to chase.
1:24 that corner when driving at high speeds made me quit this game 💀
I don’t need a whole progression system to upgrade my car
The thing I never understood about what EA, ghost, and even criterion were doing was GETTING RID OF CERTAIN EVENTS.
Like payback gave us drag racing back, they took it away in Heat. Why? 😑 they still had drifting in heat but then took that away in unbound. Why? 😑
They gave us back the “speed cross” events of which NO ONE was asking for in unbound but renamed them as “street takeovers”. Like really? People were asking for drag racing to come back for the next game after heat but they didn’t listen. No instead they did the opposite and scrapped drifting which was one of the more popular events of the franchise and replaced that too with “street takeovers” all because of the intersection take over BS that legit no one actually cared for at all and quite possibly is the most hated thing going on on in the “street scene” right now.
Why replace two of the most popular events with an event hated by legit everyone even though people are begging you to bring them back? 🤦♂️
I never played unbound because they got rid of drifting. I almost never played heat because they got rid of drag racing. The only reason I played heat was because of the cops and even that was annoying due to the fact they shoved health bars on the cars like really? 😑
If you’re trying to bring back the nostalgia of Mostwanted 2005 then let us HAVE THAT FUN without having to worry so damn much about the vehicles health bar.
Hell mostwanted 2005 has smarter AI cops then heat ever did. In heat they just ram the living piss out of you rather then try to box you in like in mostwanted 2005.
Like if this is the best EA can do for the franchise then it’s already dead. Reasons I never bought unbound, because I’m tired of them not listening and taking things people enjoyed in the previous games away. 🤦♂️
This feels like the stars have aligned. I started watching Theo back when Payback was still hot. Lifes good
Hey how u been over the years
Payback and other games at that time (not including heat) all had unique things do it that made it more arcade like. Now need for speed games are all trying to be more realistic than the last one. the player base is always complaining to the developers to remove things from the new games that alter the gameplay from the previous title. And then have the audacity to say their always making the same game with a different name. Or saying the game has “wasted potential.” All I’m saying is maybe if we let the developers creativity run wild, we would have better nfs games. 🤷
Personally I think NFS Payback was the last NFS game to have good and enjoyable music in general. When loading up Heat (no I didn't buy Unbound) I always just put on some spotify in the background.
Bros out here acting like he didn't cause this game to go this direction "i like the co-operative direction its taking screw races and progression lets do linkups" and then complains that the game is stale after man pushed for the second coming of 2012
I think Carbon and Prostreet had the best drifting. For upgrades I think Most Wanted 2005 had a good thing going with the "underground" parts. You should be able to buy the best parts whenever you want but then there should be even better parts that are more difficult to find, win and unlock. So a mix of MW05 and Heat.
Grids are what brings you back, borderlands for example you don't need the god rolls but playing for that 0.5% drop is achievement and scaling not rubber banding but actual scaling when you improve in tekken the AI remembered your go to movements and goes he's jump punching at start ..block
2015 drifting was honestly my favourite
Would be fun to see some NFS Payback content from you. some how my most played NFS. I played alot of FH2 when NFS 2015 was out.
I like nfs payback because it's like midnight club la the day changes to night and day by it's self
I realy miss the payback drifting in unbound
*No. Among all the "modern" Need For Speed it is definitely the worst. Progression shold NEVER be locked behind a literal slot machine.*
You can still progress without it lol
Forza horizon literally perfected that system NFS doing it just doesn’t work
It's not locked behind anything. It's just tedious to upgrade your cars
@@samurairavo You still can't buy Level 18 parts with IN GAME currency. You max out at Level 16.
@@nugame1599 There are three ways to get Level 18 parts:
1. Win a race and get an upgrade/downgrade AT RANDOM.
2. Wait at the Tune Up shop for 20 minutes in order for the inventory to refresh to get a CHANCE at an upgrade/downgrade.
3. Save up Speed Cards and play a LITERAL SLOT MACHINE.
Can you do it without spending money? Yeah but i'd still be sitting there waitng in Fortune Valley to this day. It's not LOCKED per se but the upgrades/downgrades are RANDOMIZED. I played the story and reached max level. There shouldn't be any boundaries left when you've beaten the game.
Since when did you get a lisp?
invisalign im p sure
I love the weather in payback than any of the nfs game
Best part unlock system was with Carbon and I am gonna say this till they bring out another NFS with the same system.
You literally had to play the game to its fullest to have everything unlocked compared to nowadays
Its £2.50 on steam rn
This game actually felt like real fun when driving and racing I love this game and keep buying it every platform I get the music fit the environment the speed , the drifting the customization the scenery , the roads felt spacious everything felt so good and fun it’s like unbound took graphics inspiration from this game and made the rest ok but this game needs a remaster to me this game is the best need for speed
I really enjoy off-roading in the Chevy bel air with high air and speed
honestly i'd put payback behind heat as my fav NFS game
Bro I seriously spent hours on that specific drift event just to save up 5 million and never use it because I switched to nfs heat but went back still enjoy the game and bought the Regera