Ancient Genetics that Still Occur Today: Atavisms Explained

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  • Did you know that traits in animal species can re-appear in a new generation hundreds of years later? These ancient reappearing genetics are called Atavisms, and they can help us understand amazing things about biology and evolution, like how limbs actually grow! Join us for a fascinating new episode of SciShow, hosted by Hank Green.
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  • @franziskabaiker8097
    @franziskabaiker8097 4 года назад +528

    I love how you're enthusiasm for everything science is so catchy.
    Doesn't matter if it's biology, chemistry, physics or space - you manage to make any topic the most interesting thing of my day

    • @mollywhomp9819
      @mollywhomp9819 4 года назад +3

      Franziska Baiker Hank and Olivia Are amazing

    • @kewakl8891
      @kewakl8891 4 года назад +1

      He even has a song about it
      ruclips.net/video/RECuQaaGGfA/видео.html (explicit version)
      ruclips.net/video/NLY-j85gFTU/видео.html (clean version)

  • @MK-dr7dx
    @MK-dr7dx 4 года назад +458

    The dolphin with hind flippers is weirdly adorable.

  • @Finalzero0000
    @Finalzero0000 4 года назад +689

    Muscle Hank is an atavism of regular Hank.
    Every once in a while he expresses himself, with many people scratching their heads wondering how and why.

    • @danraahauge3777
      @danraahauge3777 4 года назад +48

      I think it's an evolutionary adaptation that occurs when there's a niche opening to harvest the energy of making clichkbaity thumbs! XD

    • @DamascoGamer
      @DamascoGamer 4 года назад +24

      Nobody will ever know. You don't ask Muscle Hank for questions. Never.

    • @Leftatalbuquerque
      @Leftatalbuquerque 4 года назад +18

      @@DamascoGamer You don't tug on Superman's cape...

    • @mosquitobight
      @mosquitobight 4 года назад +13

      The Incredible Hank

    • @mursuhillo242
      @mursuhillo242 4 года назад +12

      Hustle Hank on the other hand ditched regular evolution altogether and went for expressive cultural evolution

  • @terrendously
    @terrendously 4 года назад +1392

    7:40 "It is extremely unusual for a species to regain the ability to have sex after being asexual for so long." that hit hard

    • @syd.a.m
      @syd.a.m 4 года назад +137

      I felt so attacked.

    • @lemon_the_spider
      @lemon_the_spider 4 года назад +115

      Haha i came to the comments looking for the fellow asexuals that have been personally attacked

    • @creativedesignation7880
      @creativedesignation7880 4 года назад +63

      Well, good thing you are individuals and not species, so this does not apply to you.

    • @JellyAntz
      @JellyAntz 4 года назад +16

      oMg i mAdE iT 69 LikEs ahhhhh also ya that can hit hard but im straight not asexual so i cant relate ig like loving after not loving

    • @conlon4332
      @conlon4332 4 года назад +12

      Who made it 70???

  • @drsharkboy6568
    @drsharkboy6568 4 года назад +2026

    Hank: 8:29 “Bone or zombie worms.”
    My brain and ears: “BONER-zombie worms!”

    • @kalechapo
      @kalechapo 4 года назад +96

      Literally same lol, I was checking to see if anyone else noticed 😂

    • @BertGrink
      @BertGrink 4 года назад +21

      @@kalechapo Same here haha

    • @mrbobinski
      @mrbobinski 4 года назад +21

      Yes. Boner zombies!

    • @twocvbloke
      @twocvbloke 4 года назад +17

      Yep, heard that too... :P

    • @LPNurja
      @LPNurja 4 года назад +26

      Wait. He didn't actually say that?? Oh...

  • @kvthe2nd903
    @kvthe2nd903 4 года назад +762

    Hmmm hind leg genes... What to name it... HAND2!

    • @BurnedSoap
      @BurnedSoap 4 года назад +95

      Foot?
      Nah. *HAND 2*

    • @luissemedo3597
      @luissemedo3597 4 года назад +31

      Makes sense if you are a non-human primate

    • @twincast2005
      @twincast2005 4 года назад +38

      Well, it _is_ also responsible for forelegs/arms, but yeah, that's funny.

    • @kindlin
      @kindlin 4 года назад +8

      I figured Hand1 was for the front limbs/hands. Probably wrong tho.

    • @danielawesome36
      @danielawesome36 4 года назад +26

      I can't believe they actually named those HAND2.
      Like, who are the scientists that did it? I'd like to have a chat with them.
      For scientific purposes, of course.

  • @robertcrabtree8835
    @robertcrabtree8835 4 года назад +250

    Love how a species named Osedax priapus (Priapus was a Greek/Roman god of fertility, and particularly, male genitals and was depicted with giant phallus on the regular) is a kind of bone worm.

    • @ixchelssong
      @ixchelssong 2 года назад +12

      I'm pretty sure the species was named after the god. 😊

    • @thederp9309
      @thederp9309 Год назад +4

      I’m pretty when he said “a species named Osedax priapus” he meant that he loved that it was named that and was referring to how it was named in relation to the god and not the time, he’s not saying the species named the god just that the name of the species is Osedax priapus. Just for anyone confused

    • @ishankumawat3306
      @ishankumawat3306 Год назад +4

      @@thederp9309 bro you confused me

    • @HayTatsuko
      @HayTatsuko Год назад +2

      Struck me immediately how entirely (in?)appropriate, clever, and hilarious this specific name truly is!

    • @fadedlight420
      @fadedlight420 Год назад +5

      And Osedax comes from Latin, ōs ("bone") + edāx (devourer). So the name literally means Bone Devourer Wiener God.

  • @rainbow_vader
    @rainbow_vader 4 года назад +708

    Fish: *climbs out of water and starts to live on land*
    Whales: uno reverse

    • @rogeriopenna9014
      @rogeriopenna9014 4 года назад +22

      not only whales, but plenty of reptiles from the Jurassic and Cretaceous. Probably triassic too.

    • @rainbow_vader
      @rainbow_vader 4 года назад +17

      @@rogeriopenna9014 Ah yes forgot about ichthyosaurs

    • @rickkwitkoski1976
      @rickkwitkoski1976 4 года назад +17

      @@rainbow_vader And turtles/tortoises/terrapins... this reversal probably happened a few times in the Order Testudines.

    • @tanstermonster5289
      @tanstermonster5289 4 года назад +3

      Lmao

    • @noellesato311
      @noellesato311 3 года назад +4

      Smooth Brain: Return to Monke
      Wrinkle Brain: Return to Fishe

  • @Je.rone_
    @Je.rone_ 4 года назад +220

    Well the pre-human primates had traits that made them relatively pretty stupid, I've met a couple people, myself included, who brought that trait back stronger than ever

  • @powergannon
    @powergannon 2 года назад +68

    That example of the snails that keep their coiled shells into adulthood reminds of of axolotl salamanders which never progress to an adult stage, so they have gills all their life.

  • @ananyaravikumar5069
    @ananyaravikumar5069 4 года назад +31

    This is fascinating, and I think it’s safe to say I would never have looked this up myself, even if I knew what I was looking for. Thanks SciShow for making me love our weird and wonderful world even more!

  • @daltonslayton6766
    @daltonslayton6766 4 года назад +1619

    The whales and dolphins are growing legs again to come back onto land to tell us to freaking stop.

    • @beth8775
      @beth8775 4 года назад +127

      They should hurry up about it.

    • @creativedesignation7880
      @creativedesignation7880 4 года назад +51

      Hopefully they will start with telling us to stop projecting motivation onto evolutionary processes ;)

    • @glenngriffon8032
      @glenngriffon8032 4 года назад +130

      Humankind: You're coming onto land?
      Legged Whales: We can't kick your asses without legs.

    • @dyscea
      @dyscea 4 года назад +22

      Not gonna lie. I’m not surprised.

    • @thatoneguy9615
      @thatoneguy9615 3 года назад +46

      The way things are going, im expecting them to say "So long, and thanks for all the fish."

  • @1st1anarkissed
    @1st1anarkissed 4 года назад +60

    "left around wasting genetic space" makes me think of "left around wasting hard drive space" which leaves me wondering, when we learn to code like RNA can code, will we discover that "a little bit of space" is NBD in terms of DNA's ability to hold code? I still remember when a gigabyte was theoretical and a postage stamp was only a postage stamp, not your family's entire video and slide catalog from the 20th century.

    • @spindash64
      @spindash64 4 года назад +10

      Probably, although DNA is Quaternary rather than Binary like computers, so that helps significantly already. 10 2 bits is equal to 5 4 bits in total storable values

    • @ixchelssong
      @ixchelssong 2 года назад +5

      I had the thought, while he was talking, 1st: The genes didn't "decide" anything, and 2nd: Our genes already contain a bunch of "junk DNA," so what genetic cost would there be for just a little more?

    • @devinnall2284
      @devinnall2284 Год назад

      Well it's not like they can just drag the useless DNA into the 🗑 to clear up space

    • @Guru_1092
      @Guru_1092 Год назад

      @@ixchelssong Approximately 8% of the average human's DNA is the remnants of ancient retroviral infection of human reproductive cells.
      So clearly, not a whole lot.

    • @RedRocket4000
      @RedRocket4000 Год назад

      @@ixchelssong Vast majority of the genes is junk. Which is why the One Percent DNA difference between Humans and Chimps and Bonobo is an exaggeration the difference is way greater if you don't count the Junk that is identical.

  • @samuelmatheson9655
    @samuelmatheson9655 4 года назад +105

    Hippo: *Will murder u on sight*
    Whale: "I am a gentle beast of the sea human, I will protect u from shark, even though you ate my ancestors"

    • @werul
      @werul Год назад

      When did humans eat whale ancestors?? Didn't they already evolve to spend their whole lives in the ocean millions of years ago?

  • @giordanobruno1333
    @giordanobruno1333 4 года назад +115

    Scishow: “Gentle Giants of the Sea”
    Orca: “Hey! I’m swimming here!”

    • @GotPotatoes24
      @GotPotatoes24 4 года назад +47

      Orcas are the New Yorkers of the sea... New Yorcas, if you will.

    • @luisch1708
      @luisch1708 4 года назад +10

      Orcas are more closely related to dolphins than whales, though, even though their name suggests otherwise.

    • @woodfur00
      @woodfur00 4 года назад +8

      Swat Me Dolphins are a subset of whales, so the name isn't wrong.

    • @NabPunk
      @NabPunk 4 года назад +10

      @@woodfur00 Not really, the group as a whole is called Cetacea, whales and porpoises are mutually exclusive subsets of the set Cetacea.

    • @ussarng4649
      @ussarng4649 4 года назад

      Orcas aren't whales.

  • @terryenby2304
    @terryenby2304 4 года назад +63

    This kind of thing got me so interested in genetics as a child! And of course Dolly the sheep and Ear-backed Mice....

    • @danraahauge3777
      @danraahauge3777 4 года назад +4

      Wow, I'm old! LoL

    • @madtabby66
      @madtabby66 4 года назад +3

      If you're like me, you realize that it's a roll of the dice, and we dont have the control we think we do.

    • @terryenby2304
      @terryenby2304 4 года назад +4

      madtabby66 I prefer denial 😉

  • @blankface_
    @blankface_ 4 года назад +196

    Just remember that animals don't exactly choose the way they evolve, though much of the language of evolution gives that implication

    • @lonestarr1490
      @lonestarr1490 4 года назад +46

      Language always gives misleading implications. That cannot be helped, it's an imperfect system.

    • @colleenforrest7936
      @colleenforrest7936 4 года назад +40

      Unless you're a peacock.
      But yeah, I agree with you. The language of genetics drives me nuts sometimes. Genes don't "want" anything. The are not sentient demi-gods.

    • @cyansloth1763
      @cyansloth1763 4 года назад +14

      The GenetiGods do not like your dismissal!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Weirdisjustabrownandyellowword
      @Weirdisjustabrownandyellowword 7 месяцев назад

      @@colleenforrest7936Are you referring to sexual selection of male tail feathers? Sexual selection is the one part of natural selection the animals have some control over, but there are other factors that narrow down the individuals within the population who can reproduce. Besides, they're just choosing what they're attracted to, without having an understanding of evolution and a vision for the future evolution of their species. Also you could argue that such a large part of what an animal finds attractive is determined by their own genetics that they aren't really choosing anyway.
      If you could choose how your descendents evolve, how would they evolve?

  • @notareallin620
    @notareallin620 4 года назад +84

    I brought this up 6 years ago in my biology class once. And everyone looked at me like "what you talkin bout?"

    • @ancientswordrage
      @ancientswordrage 4 года назад

      That's awesome

    • @donaldbaird7849
      @donaldbaird7849 4 года назад +14

      @@AxxLAfriku pls stop

    • @TragoudistrosMPH
      @TragoudistrosMPH 4 года назад +8

      your classmates had atavistically small brains? :P

    • @notareallin620
      @notareallin620 4 года назад +18

      @@TragoudistrosMPH Erm. Not too sure. They have their own strenghts I guess.
      In school, the main point was to pass the class and get good grades on exams, so we were taught what was in our text books. The bare minimum.
      Not everyone was interested in learning new things, or reading for the matter. I just happened to be one of the weird ones who did.

    • @chanbricks4461
      @chanbricks4461 4 года назад +13

      @@notareallin620 That's the exact problem with the current education system. Students are taught what they were told to, nothing else. There's also heavy emphasis on math, science, language subjects, but a lack of attention towards other more creative or art driven subjects. The combination of these aspects creates students that hate extra learning, seeing it as unnecessary and pointless.

  • @lupostales7968
    @lupostales7968 2 года назад +29

    I've read that the "leg-genus" is also still present in snakes and can cause some to be born with teeny tiny stumbs ... nature is frickin' awesome !
    Just imagine snakes with long legs ... cool and terrifying at the same time ! 🐍🐉

    • @purpleghost106
      @purpleghost106 Год назад +1

      I mean, monitor lizards exist, and they're not particularly snake-like, but reptilian and pretty fascinating/terrifying, so I can kinda picture it.

    • @josephburchanowski4636
      @josephburchanowski4636 Год назад

      So house centipedes just gigantic and scalier?

    • @lupostales7968
      @lupostales7968 Год назад +1

      @@josephburchanowski4636 I mean, there were giant centipedes in prehistoric times, so maybe it would still be possible for insects and other small animals to become that big again ... maybe if the oxygen supply in the air gets higher again ! 🤷🏻‍♀️🤔

    • @amazinggrace5692
      @amazinggrace5692 Год назад

      But god condemned the snake to be on its belly, so reverse god move? Yikes!

    • @DrachenGothik666
      @DrachenGothik666 Год назад

      @@amazinggrace5692 "God" did no such thing, 'cuz god doesn't exist. Snakes evolved to have no legs to fit into an ecological niche, not 'cuz some imaginary friend 'cursed' them. There's a clear progression from lizard to snake where limbs get progressively smaller. Legless lizards or skinks: one has no legs, the other has a long, snake like body with tiny legs. Mexican Mole lizard: long, snaky body, tiny front limbs, no back legs at all. These animals aren't directly in the snake lineage, but they are examples of species that are evolving into snake-like forms. Your imaginary friend had no part in this.

  • @sohopedeco
    @sohopedeco 4 года назад +861

    Bone worm male: "I'm a strong independent man who needs no woman!"

    • @theprogramshow8816
      @theprogramshow8816 4 года назад +6

      No, science

    • @mysigt_
      @mysigt_ 4 года назад +49

      BWGTOW

    • @DRida64
      @DRida64 4 года назад +65

      More along the lines of "I need more than one woman in my life."

    • @firstnamelastname6520
      @firstnamelastname6520 4 года назад +73

      Worman*

    • @NoThrottle
      @NoThrottle 4 года назад +51

      @@DRida64 it got tired of being inside a woman with 606 others

  • @commandZee
    @commandZee 4 года назад +303

    Males living as harems inside the female of their species, the bone worm sure has an appropriate name.

    • @theprogramshow8816
      @theprogramshow8816 4 года назад +3

      Leftuitiveness

    • @sdfkjgh
      @sdfkjgh 4 года назад +11

      @commandZee: Reminds me of male deep-sea anglerfish.

    • @artypyrec4186
      @artypyrec4186 4 года назад +6

      I didn't understand what this comment meant until they explained harems inside the female

    • @mrdoge9508
      @mrdoge9508 4 года назад +1

      @Marisa Nya *_Excuse me?_*

    • @livedandletdie
      @livedandletdie 4 года назад +14

      The weirder part is that they live inside their mothers. Inseminate their mothers, and maybe, maybe they'll get eaten by their sisters and inseminate them. Bone Worms are literally worse than Alabama.

  • @angelitabecerra
    @angelitabecerra 4 года назад +32

    4:22 "...to become the gentle giants of the sea..."
    Orcas: Ha!

    • @emmawhite6263
      @emmawhite6263 4 года назад +8

      Orcas are actually a kind of dolphin, mistaken for a whale if my memory serves correclty

    • @kari548
      @kari548 4 года назад +5

      @@emmawhite6263 yes, and they're mistaken because of the name killer whale, but the reason they have that names is because they will eat baby whales

    • @timmcdaniel6193
      @timmcdaniel6193 4 года назад +6

      Ignoring orcas:
      *[crying in krill]*

    • @jaschabull2365
      @jaschabull2365 4 года назад +1

      Also, other kinds of dolphin, which have proven hunting for sport isn't a human-exclusive activity.

  • @siraureus
    @siraureus 4 года назад +97

    > a fluke appearance of a long-lost trait.
    I see what you did there.

    • @redcoat4348
      @redcoat4348 4 года назад +2

      hmm?

    • @greensteve9307
      @greensteve9307 4 года назад +2

      Same! Glad I'm not the only one.

    • @greensteve9307
      @greensteve9307 4 года назад +10

      @@redcoat4348: Whales have flukes.

    • @hart-of-gold
      @hart-of-gold 4 года назад +4

      There is always a pun at the start of the summary. This is one is a fair bit more subtle than most.

  • @LaceNWhisky
    @LaceNWhisky 4 года назад +14

    I want a sound clip of Hank saying "bone or" from 8:29 to use out of context.

  • @tippib2222
    @tippib2222 4 года назад +166

    I couldn’t have made this episode without making fun of those species names “fornicata” and “priapus”

    • @rogeriopenna9014
      @rogeriopenna9014 4 года назад +22

      Priapus, biggest male bone worm ever.

    • @DannyBeans
      @DannyBeans 4 года назад +10

      I don't think I could have gotten past 8:52 without making a "your mom" joke.

  • @Finalzero0000
    @Finalzero0000 4 года назад +28

    08:29
    For a moment I had to ask my self "Wait, what kind of Zombie worms?!" 🤔

    • @PaintedCz
      @PaintedCz 4 года назад +7

      Absolutely heard "boner zombie" worms. LOL

    • @andrewdarlington238
      @andrewdarlington238 4 года назад

      I had to rewind on that also lol Haha. Probably listened to it 10 times wondering how they thought that sounded ok lol Haha. :D

  • @g-man4439
    @g-man4439 4 года назад +52

    "But it's extremely unusual for a species to regain the ability to have sex after being asexual for so long."
    you and me both, bro.

  • @timmcdaniel6193
    @timmcdaniel6193 4 года назад +18

    11:50 "a fluke appearance" ... I see what you did there.
    (Returning hindlimbs in an aquatic animal.)

    • @likebot.
      @likebot. 4 года назад

      Came to make that observation... I see you're the first of two already.

  • @saddieahsan
    @saddieahsan 4 года назад +170

    This is why some humans are born with a tail.

    • @copypaste3526
      @copypaste3526 4 года назад +37

      Atavism my ass!

    • @yannismorris4772
      @yannismorris4772 4 года назад +13

      @@copypaste3526 *(applause)*

    • @pvic6959
      @pvic6959 4 года назад

      wat

    • @ADerpyReality
      @ADerpyReality 4 года назад +1

      Chimps or monkeys? That is the question. Both lemur and chimps are strong and intelligent.

    • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
      @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 4 года назад +6

      But I have not seen any cases of humans being born with ape like jaws and sculls. I guess the head is more importnat.

  • @LA-ev8hg
    @LA-ev8hg 4 года назад +31

    At 3:36 it's heterotopy, as in topos, not heterotropy.

    • @WilliamAndrea
      @WilliamAndrea 4 года назад

      "tropos" by the way means "trope/style/manner"
      Also not to be confused with heterotrophy and homotropy.

  • @gabrielladias420
    @gabrielladias420 4 года назад +6

    This is one of the most fascinating vids I've seen in this channel (and that's saying something!)

  • @joshuak4553
    @joshuak4553 4 года назад +6

    4:42 Limpits... Do they swim with chocolate starfish?
    Brb going to make a limpit biscut

  • @keirinboyes4419
    @keirinboyes4419 4 года назад +8

    Finally I've been waiting for you to do a video on atavisms for years!!

  • @pxn748
    @pxn748 4 года назад +199

    Sometimes humans are born with a tail!

    • @shadowsonicsilver6
      @shadowsonicsilver6 4 года назад +10

      Sun Wu Kong that you?

    • @marxtheenigma873
      @marxtheenigma873 4 года назад +26

      Not a tail. There are no bones in it. Just an extra lump of flesh.

    • @jaroslavsvaha6065
      @jaroslavsvaha6065 4 года назад +92

      Spend any amount of time on internet, and you'll discover that sometimes humans are born without a brain.

    • @search895
      @search895 4 года назад +51

      @@jaroslavsvaha6065 Some humans are actually born with a brain. Is hard to believe but it happens to be some cases.

    • @1everydayperson
      @1everydayperson 4 года назад +17

      Pxn it a vestigial tail meaning it is absolutely useless and doesn't even look like a normal tail.

  • @BaalFridge
    @BaalFridge 4 года назад +53

    I learned about atavism in yu yu hakusho. Good ol' weeb years paid off.

    • @EldestZelot
      @EldestZelot 4 года назад +1

      I learned about it in psychology, specifically Lombroso's research.

    • @TheBlkKat
      @TheBlkKat 3 года назад +2

      I came to the comments looking for this reference. :)

    • @World_Theory
      @World_Theory 3 года назад +1

      Same.

    • @monhunterz5430
      @monhunterz5430 3 года назад +2

      What does a series about a spirit detective have to do with creatures evolving old traits again?

    • @World_Theory
      @World_Theory 3 года назад +1

      SPOILERS!
      The main character dies at one point, but comes back alive due to some bizarre weirdness involving spirit energy. But instead of coming back as a human, he comes back as a demon, because one of his human ancestors from many generations back, had children with a demon. And he met some activation conditions by accident for those traits through lots of training. *_shifty eyes_* It might not be especially realistic, but the word "atavism" was specifically used in the explanation.

  • @DeclanMBrennan
    @DeclanMBrennan 4 года назад +3

    That was absolutely fascinating. I'm sure what was shown was just the tip of a very big research iceberg. Thanks SciShow team for doing all that work for us.

  • @thegrassisbluer09
    @thegrassisbluer09 Год назад

    It's amazing that you're still here making great content, you deserve some kind of internet creator lifetime achievement award (if you don't have one or fifty already). I first found your work some time ago and there's nothing that's missed the mark. I can't remember where or how I originally found you, but I definitely remember listening to Dowdy Smack at some point. Is there anywhere I could find C'est Bon Ça to relive a bygone time?

  • @cgarzs
    @cgarzs 4 года назад +10

    8:30 Actual: "Taken to calling them bone or zombie worms"
    Sounds like: "Taken to calling them boner zombie worms"

  • @kamion53
    @kamion53 3 года назад +1

    @ 2:06
    that is an Anthracotherium, it's from a lineage paralel to hippo's and whale but not the ancester of whales,
    that was a little animal called indohyus looked a bit like a chevrotain with a long tail

  • @mitchy3991
    @mitchy3991 2 года назад +4

    Have you done a video on aphids?
    They reproduce through parthenogenesis and have a pretty odd life-cycle.
    They also get farmed like cattle by ants for their secretions...

  • @samiamrg7
    @samiamrg7 Год назад +2

    Fun etymology fact: the word “Parthenogenisis” comes from the Greek word for “virgin,” and is often associated with the goddess Athena. Athena was not only a virgin goddess, but was also concieved and “birthed” by Zeus alone (being formed from Zeus’ thoughts as a sort of receptecle for the vast wisdom he obtained after becoming ruler of the cosmos).
    (Athena’s association with virginity is also why her greatest temple was named the “Parthenon).”

  • @christelheadington1136
    @christelheadington1136 4 года назад +18

    Now I'm trying to remember why I looked up atavistic, I know it was long enough ago it was i a printed dictionary.What ever the reason, it allowed me to understand atavism.

    • @AnkhAnanku
      @AnkhAnanku 4 года назад +2

      It also plays a part in defining fascism, which came back in a big way in recent years.
      You might hear “atavism” used in art, culture, society, theology, technology, and biology. It can be regarded as positive, negative, or neutral depending on the context.
      I personally found the term while I was indulging in that “noble savage” thirst, looking for primitive arts and cultures that weren’t so far removed from nature and might more purely express humanity and freedom. I was disappointed that many of the results involved societies indulging in our uglier tendencies of distrust, war, ignorance, tyranny, and hate.

    • @christelheadington1136
      @christelheadington1136 4 года назад +1

      Actually I remembered, to make along story short it was in a line from a play.

  • @Euroflounder
    @Euroflounder 4 года назад +7

    As a hoarder, I understand the soil mites. "I'm sure I'll use this Y chromosome eventually...."

  • @daviddavis4885
    @daviddavis4885 4 года назад +66

    I’d love to see a video on the opposite of this: Traits that emerged but then lost

    • @TazPessle
      @TazPessle 4 года назад +17

      Or traits that commonly emerge with no precedent that are never kept; the real messy noise of evolution. Like sixth digits and so on.

    • @bobman929
      @bobman929 4 года назад +3

      They have done vids on lost traits

    • @siyacer
      @siyacer 4 года назад +10

      Vitamin C production in humans, for example.

    • @cybeermancom1
      @cybeermancom1 4 года назад +1

      the genes for legs appeared somewhere in the lineage and almost got lost
      for whales too

    • @anonymouswhite7957
      @anonymouswhite7957 4 года назад +10

      Idk if it’s the reverse per se but there is vestigiality. Where a trait no longer serves their purpose and is on their way to disappearance. To mention a few:
      - Halteres in insects, which is nubs (protrusion) that used to be wings
      - Wisdom teeth in humans, many recent generations have lost them completely
      - Small non functional eyes in many cave animals
      - Pelvic bone in snakes
      And many more..
      As for the one that have been lost completely, geomagnetic sense is something that humans no longer have .-.

  • @frankdantuono2594
    @frankdantuono2594 4 года назад +1

    GREAT EPISODE!!

  • @Nonunusmultorum
    @Nonunusmultorum 4 года назад +17

    I know this wasn't how it was intended to be said, but "BONER ZOMBIE WORMS" is both a cool band name and a terrifying ailment to think about

  • @MaryAnnNytowl
    @MaryAnnNytowl 2 года назад +1

    Thanks, Hank and crew, for another fascinating video!

  • @rogeriopenna9014
    @rogeriopenna9014 4 года назад +7

    "Scishow: “Gentle Giants of the Sea”
    Yeah, tell that to a Liviathan Melvillei whale.

  • @tiltedsun2786
    @tiltedsun2786 4 года назад +2

    I am so happy there are scientists that care about snail shell characteristics

  • @highfive7689
    @highfive7689 3 года назад +6

    Wonderful show! First time watching, and enjoyed it. I was wondering if most of these ancestral genes are pseudogenes? I was also wondering about the role of viral infestation may cause in the activation of Atavisms. Like Zika virus attacks the fetus and effects the development. There may be viruses that may reactivate these genes creating evolutionary effect that lead to Atavisms. Any information on this in your studies?

  • @quinnalexander3825
    @quinnalexander3825 2 года назад +4

    HEY HEY!!! 3:24 Mysticeti did NOT just skip right along from Ambulocetus >:D Don't forget the INCREDIBLE evolutionary history of whales all between those two. Dorudon is one of my favorites.

  • @rudresh10000
    @rudresh10000 4 года назад +9

    Atavism of the Mazoku. I Can't believe Anime has taught me so much stuff.

    • @MuscarV2
      @MuscarV2 4 года назад +3

      So you knew what the word meant before? Or just knew the word and not actually what it really meant, therefore not being taught anything.

    • @T0YCHEST
      @T0YCHEST 4 года назад +2

      Marcus Lindgren got him

    • @dynamicworlds1
      @dynamicworlds1 4 года назад +4

      @@MuscarV2 actually, no, it was used in a way that the meaning could be learned through context clues.
      Even if all it did was them curious enough to look up the word, that's still a good thing.
      You think disparaging things that get people curious enough to learn makes you look more intelligent? (It doesn't)

    • @AuntBibby
      @AuntBibby 4 года назад +1

      Regular Old Plumbus S-SH-SHOTS _FIRED_

  • @GrowingViolet
    @GrowingViolet 4 года назад +11

    These bone worms remind me of a squid species that I think I also learned about on this channel which also has extreme sexual dimorphism. Similarly, the females are enormous while the males are incredibly tiny. It makes it all the more amazing to me then how similar the sexes are in humans, knowing that such extremes can exist in other animals.

  • @andrewdarlington238
    @andrewdarlington238 4 года назад +3

    "BOOOner... Zombie worms"... definitely listened to that like 15 times wondering how they didn't catch the way that sounded during edit lol. I am soooooo glad they missed it haha I needed a good laugh lol. :D

    • @maxblast8210
      @maxblast8210 2 года назад

      Bold of you to assume that they didn't catch it.

  • @bernardedwards8461
    @bernardedwards8461 3 года назад +3

    I've noticed that nestlings of a few birds have a digit and claw still protuding from their wing pinions, but the only one that retains it into adulthood and can use it with two more for climbing is the Hoatzin of S.America. in the vast majority of birds, the digits that were there in Archaeopteryx have become fused into the skeleton of the wing. Have there in recent times ever been young birds with teeth like Archaeopteryx? Large pythons routinely have vestigial hind legs, usually limited to a few digits with claws..

    • @bernardedwards8461
      @bernardedwards8461 Год назад

      @Mark Aspen Modern birds are not born quadrupedal, but their ancient ancestors were. This is why some modern birds have claws on their wings.

  • @beansnrice321
    @beansnrice321 4 года назад +14

    "Heh heh heh heh heh heh. Bone worm."
    -Beavis

  • @ton4encento
    @ton4encento 4 года назад +15

    Those bone worms blew my mind and I have an exam in 7 hours and I have to sleep

    • @TragoudistrosMPH
      @TragoudistrosMPH 4 года назад +1

      good luck!

    • @Nozzred
      @Nozzred 4 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/CZzQhiNQXxU/видео.html
      ruclips.net/video/Jrp-flp_CMg/видео.html

  • @LG-jb9zs
    @LG-jb9zs 4 года назад +5

    "ancestral coil" is a kickass metal band name

  • @r0cketplumber
    @r0cketplumber 4 года назад +2

    It's interesting that male/female dimorphism exists in species across most phyla, even across kingdoms- but the mechanism by which the differential arises is wildly different. X and Y chromosomes in humans and other mammals, ZW in birds, UV in algae, temperature of the nest in alligators and turtles, plants that can change sex... but all these different encoding methods all have very similar results. Only a relatively few species have sexes that are not simply male/female, and most of those are cryptic male/female "impersonators" such as Hyenas. Only a few really odd ones do odd things like Tetrahymena, with 7 sexes and 21 combinations. Perhaps it's just that the simplest binary split achieves most of the benefits with the least complexity that could malfunction.

    • @CL-go2ji
      @CL-go2ji Год назад

      I have wondered about that ... the same solution in so many variations.

  • @marijandesin8226
    @marijandesin8226 4 года назад +6

    What's hard to imagine? Even bugs get bored after 20milion years.

  • @ACertainJustice
    @ACertainJustice 4 года назад

    One of the coolest topics I’ve seen in a while. I’m fascinated and need to go read up on it more.

  • @VGAstudent
    @VGAstudent 4 года назад +5

    It may also be important to recognize atavisms that may exist epigenetically through the expression of temperature sensitive enzymes and proteins that stop producing some hand2 similar genes in an adult: warmer temperatures globally may cause a shift in the species, because the reduction of global temperature sensitive genes is being reduced with warmer winters. In other words, the expression of legs, may be a result of global species wide gene changes that indicate a beneficial global change that would allow for the re-introduction of fully grown legs.
    The archeological record shows warmer temperatures, and the gene records of the entire species may also show the same traits with the expression of wings or legs in larger herbivores when the availability of food goes way up because of global tropical weather ranges. I can't speak about this from research, but I'd think that nature would work with an entire species this way as easily as an individual.

  • @alicecuriosityoftenleadsto6288
    @alicecuriosityoftenleadsto6288 2 года назад +2

    Changes always seem to have multiple causes, I think we spend way too much energy wondering 'which thing' caused something to happen when the answer is almost always 'all the things happening together'

    • @maxblast8210
      @maxblast8210 2 года назад

      Alice spitting straight facts here.

  • @jasepoag8930
    @jasepoag8930 4 года назад +4

    Huh, I always assumed limpets were a very basal snail that hadn't yet developed coils rather than a specialized derived snail.

  • @katieb8752
    @katieb8752 4 года назад +40

    Is that how some humans are born with tails?

    • @sophierobinson2738
      @sophierobinson2738 4 года назад +10

      Katie B Yes. But they're not much use.

    • @budd2nd
      @budd2nd 4 года назад +2

      Katie B
      Yeah, it must be.

    • @madtabby66
      @madtabby66 4 года назад +1

      Pretty much.

  • @energyornothing1616
    @energyornothing1616 4 года назад +9

    OMG!! This part in biology i love the most....specially their by born survival expertise

    • @theprogramshow8816
      @theprogramshow8816 4 года назад

      Not cause you won but because you survived. N why some have the same evolvements upon different genetic pathways.

  • @gastonjaillet9512
    @gastonjaillet9512 4 года назад +1

    I what hoping you would make a video about Atavisms for a long time. Finally!
    I'm totally for a second one !

  • @MattAndImprov
    @MattAndImprov 4 года назад +35

    I really dislike when playing around evolution seems to imply cognitive choice, rather than proliferation of a beneficial trait.

    • @madtabby66
      @madtabby66 4 года назад +12

      So true.
      A trait shows up. If it's useful, the animal thrives and reproduces. If it's not useful, you either dont make it to breeding age, or you're rejected as a mate.
      But we are arrogant bald monkeys who think we control a heck of a lot more than we actually do.

    • @meghanachauhan9380
      @meghanachauhan9380 4 года назад +3

      @@madtabby66 it's really more like biochemistry really. Thinks of them not as organisms but chemical machines and you'll see evolution is really just a chemical game

    • @madtabby66
      @madtabby66 4 года назад +5

      @@meghanachauhan9380 meh, I'm a dog breeder. We study blood lines, research back a minimum of 5 generations. Look at previous litters produced (if any) and still end up with a "where the hell did that come from" pup. Or we get a pair we think would be perfect, and they have no interest in each other.
      We're playing with 76 sided dice and hoping to win.

    • @druid_zephyrus
      @druid_zephyrus 4 года назад +5

      @@madtabby66 Not only are we arrogant bald *apes, but we also have an innate need and desire to categorize into helpful and unhelpful.

    • @druid_zephyrus
      @druid_zephyrus 4 года назад +1

      @@meghanachauhan9380 I lost the game.

  • @victrosia
    @victrosia 3 года назад +2

    I actually have a coiled limpet shell! When I was little I played with it and called it the volcano shell.

  • @dustyprater7884
    @dustyprater7884 4 года назад +3

    I love atavisms! They are so cool! Professor Jack Horner is working on using atavisms in Chickens to make a dinosaur! Keep up the good work, SciShow!!

  • @tinamclaughlin1991
    @tinamclaughlin1991 4 года назад

    Wow! That's facinating, as all your content is!

  • @johnorsomeone4609
    @johnorsomeone4609 4 года назад +4

    As apes, we once had tails but lost them. I want mine back and I want it prehensile. This is non-negotiable. I just need new pants.

  • @Hide_Me
    @Hide_Me 4 года назад +8

    "life uh, uh, finds a way'

  • @blankface_
    @blankface_ 4 года назад +3

    8:29 is what I wake up with

  • @sagacious03
    @sagacious03 4 года назад

    Fascinating! Thanks for uploading!

  • @h7opolo
    @h7opolo 4 года назад +13

    8:30 dude, pause for slightly longer after the word "bone" and before the word "or" to avoid sounding like you're saying the word "boner". lol

    • @h7opolo
      @h7opolo 4 года назад +4

      lol "boner, zombie worms with sexual dimorphism" sounds like a freaky parasite.

    • @WormholeJim
      @WormholeJim 4 года назад +4

      A boner zombie worm. It's a .. i don't know exactly. Mental images does not compute.

  • @timberwolfdtproductions3890
    @timberwolfdtproductions3890 Год назад +1

    Fascinating. I think Darwin would be impressed with how much progress has been made in the field of genetics, but humbled by how much is yet to be learned.

    • @Backinblackbunny009
      @Backinblackbunny009 Год назад

      Mostly he'd just be horrified by how our leaders are letting the natural world and all its lifeforms be destroyed in pursuit of eternal quarterly profits. Darwin understood the value of life

    • @timberwolfdtproductions3890
      @timberwolfdtproductions3890 Год назад

      @@Backinblackbunny009 👍

  • @waterunderthebridge7950
    @waterunderthebridge7950 4 года назад +3

    I feel like if you compare the genetic code to computing systems, most of the more frequently seen atavisms are more like recovering an instruction to paste a certain process at a different place rather than recovering an entire database that was lost (e.g. having multiple nipples (where your body knows how a “nipple” is constructed) or an extended spine/tail (where your body already knows how to make vertebrae) etc.)

  • @OrbeezRando
    @OrbeezRando 4 года назад

    Hank, You are my Fav science communicator.

  • @-cookiezila-461
    @-cookiezila-461 4 года назад +4

    Hank: Gentle giants of the sea
    Sperm Whales:

  • @dmac1465
    @dmac1465 4 года назад

    This was one of the best written episodes of Sccie show I've ever seen.

  • @TragoudistrosMPH
    @TragoudistrosMPH 4 года назад +3

    8:04 I've never bought the idea that storing genes is wasteful... because genetic mutation is random, and waste requires a detriment on a case by case basis, rather than in principle... at least that's my hypothesis.
    Having options might or might not hurt.

    • @cortster12
      @cortster12 4 года назад

      Genetic mutation is random, but natural selection is not. That's the variable you've looked over.

    • @TragoudistrosMPH
      @TragoudistrosMPH 4 года назад

      @@cortster12 natural selection is a variable with 3 outcomes 'Positive, Negative, or Neutral'
      That's why I say might or might not hurt.
      What proof is there that having additional genes hurts an organism? Are there any examples?
      Remember that some organisms have obscene numbers of genes (randomly looked up) Paris Japonica has a genome 50x larger than the human genome. Is the plant suffering for it?

    • @TragoudistrosMPH
      @TragoudistrosMPH 4 года назад

      @Bazagi Derp I agree that it's potentially true, and such a cost should be measurable.
      A benefit is more genes means more chances for mutation/diversity. If all you genes are essential, you can't afford mutation.
      Some organisms have 10,20,50 or 1/4 of the genes that we do. Is there evidence that extra genes are a bad thing? :)

  • @tentavision13
    @tentavision13 4 года назад +2

    7:03
    You're telling me there are 1,000 species of soil mites? Damn

    • @demonflowerchild
      @demonflowerchild 4 года назад

      I'm a lil tired and read that as 1000 soul mates. Lol

  • @TazPessle
    @TazPessle 4 года назад +6

    To me seeing atavisms makes just as much sense as seeing future traits yet-to-be-selected-for. The future-beneficial gene(s) don't exist in any meaningful density before selection and yet we see extra digits that aren't selected for (as an example). To me it then seems actuallly more likely to get a throwback; we've never had a functional sixth digit but whales have had functional hind limbs; their genes have definitely had that capability; a vestigial form of a functional element should be more common than a vestigial non-functional element. Throwbacks then should be less alarming unless there is a strong selection against them... Or am i missing something?

    • @RedRocket4000
      @RedRocket4000 Год назад

      There are humans with functioning fully sixth digit it not too hard they work the same way the other digits work. This fully functioning sixth digit is he rare for of it the most common has no bone in it and thus removed as soon as possible.
      And some cats have a working although way too short thumb in effect on both front and rear paws separate from the other digits on the side lower in. Seen them on and used by the Hemingway cats at Key West. In my case to pick up and run off with a piece of paper on the other three legs grasping the paper with one paw. Guides told us they can turn nobs and other hand like tricks with them making securing things much more difficult than with normal cats. I imagine given time the thumb digit will get longer and bigger and they probably lose one of the others as the primate five work good.

  • @ismaileltorky242
    @ismaileltorky242 4 года назад

    One of my fav vids about evolution Imo nice work.

  • @eric212234
    @eric212234 4 года назад +3

    I'm thinking the conditions in trees change more quickly than conditions underground, and sexual reproduction can lead to more rapid evolution. Beneficial genes can be shared, genetic drift, rather than surviving individuals being of only one ancestral line.

  • @mexicanboots0206
    @mexicanboots0206 4 года назад

    This was so cool! Love learning cool things like this :)

  • @landy9345
    @landy9345 4 года назад +3

    I knew about this because of my Embryology class. 😎

  • @semaj_5022
    @semaj_5022 4 года назад

    This was super fascinating thank you!

  • @paulawolanski3237
    @paulawolanski3237 3 года назад +3

    I remember when I first learned that whales have very small leg bones sticking out of their pelvis, my mind was just blown

  • @Pratanjali64
    @Pratanjali64 4 года назад

    Dang you guys are always on point. Really interesting stuff!

  • @danielhaywood641
    @danielhaywood641 4 года назад +6

    10:00 "eating egg and pumping out sperm" - life goals.

  • @christmaschree36
    @christmaschree36 4 года назад

    Hank's "surprise!"/gotcha voice tickles me lol

  • @stevendembo2389
    @stevendembo2389 4 года назад +12

    One of the limpets looked more like a "slipper shell". Is a slipper snail a limpet?

    • @WireMosasaur
      @WireMosasaur 4 года назад

      I've heard them called "slipper limpet" and not "slipper shell", so maybe! Who can say with common names though lol

  • @toniatchison3678
    @toniatchison3678 4 года назад

    Another fascinating video. Thank you!

  • @2sexyfomyshirt
    @2sexyfomyshirt 4 года назад +5

    "Life finds a way"

    • @coolzredz
      @coolzredz 4 года назад +1

      Jeffery beaty 😂😂😂

    • @werul
      @werul Год назад

      Whales find a way to grow legs again to kick our asses for polluting the oceans

  • @robynalice879
    @robynalice879 4 года назад +2

    Wait... So if Ativism causes snails to recoil due to the activity of a coiling gene prior to adulthood, would that also mean there's a likelihood of Ativism being the cause of medical conditions like Dwarfism? I.e. the skeletal dysplasia specifically?

  • @timothymoore8549
    @timothymoore8549 4 года назад +32

    I’d really like to see a creationist explain a whale with legs

    • @rickkwitkoski1976
      @rickkwitkoski1976 4 года назад +16

      "miracles" they "happen"

    • @think-islam-channel
      @think-islam-channel 4 года назад +1

      Or an evolutionist

    • @cleverusernamenexttime2779
      @cleverusernamenexttime2779 3 года назад +3

      They are there to test your faith.

    • @butterflypaint4332
      @butterflypaint4332 3 года назад +1

      I used to be a non evolutionary creationist. they would often say that because they sometimes help the whale when reproducing (not sure if thats true) they aren't technically "vestigial" bc they have a use. 🤷

    • @faiaflrt
      @faiaflrt 2 года назад +2

      God creates through evolution. There you go.

  • @ngantnier
    @ngantnier Год назад +2

    I had a bristlenose plecostomus randomly be born with legs instead of pectoral fins. She even walked instead of swimming along the glass. Unfortunately she died in a tank accident. I would have loved to see where that was going.

    • @user-gn4ts8jb7n
      @user-gn4ts8jb7n Год назад

      Do you have any way that I could see it? That sounds super cool!

  • @HH-lr2zt
    @HH-lr2zt 4 года назад +10

    I'm really curious how the heck someone can figure out what a whale embryo looks like. Underwater ultrasound? Dissection of whales that happen to be found both pregnant and dead? Also, if whales are huge, are their embryos big too? I can't help but imagine a shrimp shaped whale embryo the size of a frisbee.

    • @sammiegirl883
      @sammiegirl883 4 года назад +9

      Most likely a combination of captive whales receiving ultrasound and finding wild and captive miscarried embryos/fetuses.

    • @stephenbrand5661
      @stephenbrand5661 4 года назад +5

      I’d imagine captive dolphin populations get way better medical care than most working class American humans. They probably give pregnant dolphins regular ultrasounds with those portable ultrasound machines that made female infanticide so popular in China and especially India.

    • @mitlanderson
      @mitlanderson 4 года назад +6

      They simply culture animal sperm and eggs and grow them in the lab, the embryos aren't viable after a certain amount of time, but long enough for study

    • @artypyrec4186
      @artypyrec4186 4 года назад

      Sounds terrifying when you think about it

    • @nicholaslewis8594
      @nicholaslewis8594 4 года назад

      Probably lots of them were collected when whaling was more common.