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My body is failing because of the years of never taking my foot off the gas. No one cared how big and strong I was back then and now my biggest regret is that I can't do what I want to do anymore. None of this crap is worth it if you want to look and perform your best the remaining 2/3rds of your life
I get compliments every day and random people stop to shake my hand and take pictures of me simply because I’m massive. I just had a blonde girl stop at the grocery store and smile at me all crazy looking. I kept looking behind me wondering what she was looking at then she said wow your arms are amazing! Im 31 and have been on steroids for one year and i can see why this is addictive. I get looks everywhere and when my shirt comes off at the pool or beach all eyes are on me. I have kids come up to me and talk to me and they want to be like me some even ask me about steroids.
Crack is actually fairly conservative as far as street drugs go. It's mostly just old school traditionalist crackheads using it exclusively today. I feel like the "meth of steroids" would be more accurate.
Crack will blow up your heart or if you’re lucky, just give you an ascending aortic aneurysm. The argument that ‘at least it’s not as bad as krokodil’ is ridiculous. I believe if you check, you’ll find directly attributable drug deaths (1990-2013) due to crack far exceeded meth (which mostly drives you crazy and makes your teeth fall out and jaw rot). I think what the good doc is getting at is that, just like crack is like supercharged coke, tren is like supercharged steroids.
My last tren cycle, The big side affect I got was nausea every waking second of the day. Eas a nightmare, felt like I was on a moving boat the entire time it was in me
i tried Anapolon 50mg orals years ago and the nausea within half and hour of taking it was so bad i was heaving with clear saliva running from my mouth just similiar to being very drunk on spirits and puking.
Dude yesterday was my first tren dose ever and the next day I was nauseated feeling like I'm about to throw up, took 4 pills of paracetamol and I was fine
Thanks for this video, young man. Back in 2020, after 26 years away from the gym(51 yrs old), I went to Golds gym. On my first day ( before Covid-19 restrictions kicked in, and I stopped working out again) one of the personal trainers told me about sarms. Please keep in mind it's been decades since I even picked up a dumbbell, so I was clueless about what she was talking about. After a brief explanation, I declined and decided to be natural and tap into my potential without worrying about potential side effects from steroids. . Back during my high school years in the late eighties, quite a few of the athletes I worked out with were using steroids. Even back "roid rage" was commonly known about, but guys wanted to get bigger and stronger, so health be dammed.
Thank you for a sober, reflective, and realistic perspective on roids. I'm a recent sub but this is exactly why I subbed: a mature and insightful commentary. Nicely done, mate.
Honestly, after my years of training naturally, I got on gear at 29. Test, deca and EQ were my go to's. I tried tren with test at 34. And I can't relate to the extreme sexual impluses, maybe a little more promiscuous, but nothing my wife complained about. My agression was a bit higher as well, but I feel like having the mental maturity is a big benefactor for that compound. Understanding and evaluating your thoughts in the third person on a regular basis after counseling at a young age for anger paid off. The night sweats and insomina however were unreal. The only thing i'll say is the recovery was also unreal. I could get 4hrs of sleep and push through a 14hr day, do a 2hr gym session and keep doing that the length of the cycle (3 months, too long.) it's very intoxicating to stay on with all the big benefits in that way. My cardio was only slightly affected because I had been an endurance athlete long before gear and kept on it. Unfortunatly i'll have to say, will run it again in the near future, but definitely not something I would cruise on year round like test.
At only 300 mg test and 150 mg tren-e I got every side effect including brown liquid leaking from my nips. I took prami and caber in order to combat the sides and they turned me into a zombie from extreme lethargy and made my orgasms not feel satisfying, which has been a recurring problem since. I had to stop taking it because I couldn't even get in quality gym sessions with all the side effects. With that said, I was the most shredded I've been. I would never take it again or recommend it though.
Wow using E is rough. Weaker with worse side effects and when you don't like it it's in you so much longer. We all do stupid things brother I wish you a good recovery
Crikey; I wouldn’t care if I was ripped, jacked, yoked, and strong AF, if Tren made my balls shrink, my heart grow, and my nips swell and ‘leak’ fluid…at the first sign of that shit I’d be (like now) just natty and sorta strong.
So like, when are you gonna make a video about your beef with squat university? Cause it's like constant ribbing but never anything specific. Can you please go into the specifics?
Not only has the opportunities for bodybuilding type physiques increased, the gene pool has literally more than doubled since 1970, from under 4 billion people to over 8 billion, and a larger percentage of those people have access to nutrition and Healthcare on top of various forme of media and global communications.
I did it a year ago, all my bloodwork is pretty much back to normal and I still have the 10-15 lbs of muscle I put on in 2 months. Stay grinding though.
I was going to take oral steroids back in the day when I worked at the gym. I was going to do oral steroids because I hate needles but the only reason I didn't was because of the liver side effects. I still want to take steroids but... I mean I feel like I'll die. Also huge respect to you for your honestly and dropping knowledge.
You probably don't it ruins everything for you. Do you get unmotivated when you're weaker than last week? Do you wish you were stronger than before? Well what once was your dedication and hard work is now dictated by your cycle
Life is short just do it, there’s more information out there to do it correctly than before, we’re all dying anyways so make the best of the little time we have
@@Mario-su1jz That’s like saying a lot of drivers report crashing into stuff. Yes, if you don’t do it right you can have problems. Using androgynous testosterone will shut down your own production (messes up your balls ) temporarily, but you don’t need your balls producing testosterone when you’re providing it. And the feeling orgasms and other sexual problems are caused by taking the wrong combination of gear and driving your estrogen and prolactin out of their proper ratios. All of these problems are avoidable, and all of them go away when you stop the gear or get your dosing adjusted. Unless of course you’re an idiot who blasts huge amounts of gear for years and doesn’t do it right. So to sum up, yes, if you don’t know what you’re doing you can have problems, but fortunately if you have problems you can just make adjustments or stop and it’ll all go back to normal. Good luck.
Can I just say, I had this out with the whole revival fitness and the noble natty community, as the noble natties of which I'll admit I side with the most said you can't say everyone is on steroids because you don't know. And while I agree, I think a lot of the noble natties seem to think only a portion of people are on steroids. I'm in the UK and this is just my experience in my small town of which there are around 4 gyms. The first gym, the owner is well known to sell steroids, and from his clientele base, it's very easy to tell that they're on something. The second gym, all the guys who took steroids from the guy who owned the first gym moved there, and guess what, they're all on steroids. The third gym, my gym, i frequently hear the guys in there, talking about their stacks, while deadlifting 320kg and complaining about not being able to engage their lats. The fourth gym is predominantly CrossFit. And all of that's in a small town. No not everyone is on steroids, but a lot of them are. Look at the Olympics, look at the NFL, baseball, MMA, rugby, are people that naive to think they're just natural specimens with diet, good training and elite genetics. They maybe are, but they're also on gear. What rugby player is spending most of his time playing rugby but can bench press olympic records on the side while barely training it at all. Open your eyes. Jesus Christ.
bro the entire video is alexander sitting there watching without saying anything and you can just hear him breating heavily in the background. this is my frist time watching him and i love it😂
A lot of people can taste injected substances. Especially IV. There are tons of little capillaries in your lungs and maybe that's why. I don't know for sure but it would make sense for something that was more aggressive to actually cause coughing.
Wait... a guy in the IPF was blasting tren year round? PS I've been going to gyms for 20 years in various countries and cities and never been offered steroids. Do you have to ask people or do they usually offer?
I love your content. One video I watched I thought was a bit off the mark, but I think overall you have a lot of valuable insights. I took some tren and I was lucky to not have obvious side effects, but I did have some issues that I had to resolve with gyno itchiness etc which I have never had with anything else. I had some caber on hand but still.... it is just a question of cost vs benefit. I would say overall the cost and benefit isnt just there, especially for normal people who don't really make any money off being bigger or stronger faster. I have another vial or two there, and I will use that in september and I think never again. At my age, I think I will go for a kind of slightly higher than TRT test level, cycle off , have some anavar from time to time. I use steroids as recreational drugs, I would have to admit. It is just a kind of fun thing - I do like being high testosterone, even if the cost is some occasional low points with zero sex drive. I am 50 years old though. The idea of being stupid like this when 20 years old is just insane. Women don't even like huge people. You can just max out the bench press in some shitty gym and you will be strong enough and muscular enough for any reasonable day to day need. My problem is that I use exercise for mental health, so I like the idea of recovering quickly and doing more. Its stupid. I am an idiot, but life is good almost every day. I wont do tren after this next bunch. Its stupid.
I remember back in 94 a friend got a few of us primobolin but because it was amples after about 3 weeks incredible size and strength which primo never did that I looked at the ample in light and it was actually Parabolan! I would of never used it if I knew! Always examine what you get to make sure!
@@PumpedAntics Yeah, called my friend because we were all breaking records in the gym and told him he needs to read the amples closely! Thank God I caught it ! Definitely not close to what primobolin does! He continued using it, I decided to taper off but wow what a powerful hormone it is!
@@DG-nb6fe Yeah! and out of all 3 of us that got it, I was the only one that actually caught on to what it was! I knew something wasn't right all 3 of us were breaking records in the gym!
Mr. Bromley tells it from one of the biggest hearts (dissynonymous with pathogenic “cardiac hypertrophy”) on the strength scene. Knowledge gained from extensive experience, and delivered with humility, candor, humor and some self-deprecation lodges in the brain for consideration. The hype and fluff of other presenters, some with glossy eye appeal over actual substance, may make me feel enlightened, but fail to cause me to think! Lives and “living” are spared when we seek a more methodical and patient approach to our goals.
@@AlexanderBromley holy shit. The man himself. Thank you for that kind sir. I tried it for a short while. No yellow eyes. Could definitely power through anything. Not a good long term strategy haha
@@DG-nb6fe in all honesty SWIM tried methyl tren for like a year and a half off and on. Sleep didn’t suffer much. Didn’t have a sex drive but not like SWIM couldn’t. SWIM just didn’t really want it as much as normal. Which was a nice change of pace. If SWIM runS it 250 mcg every day, with anastrozole, could work.
I'm quite immune to roids, but 2mg of this preworkout, it's dark & gloomy thoughts, gravity reduces and I pee orange for next 24 hours ..scary stuff. Anadrol seems like candy compared to it.
Inability to get proper stuff is the real problem now. Most users are probably still getting underground garbage, at least here in the states. At best what they get is underdosed. But there is also the fact that they use synthetic oils. That's my real issue with that.
Great vid Alex. I consider my self lucky that during my competitive/ heavier use years, tren hadn't quite reached the mythic status it has today. My only experiences were a couple of runs with some Finaplex I mixed up with a conversion kit at a pretty moderate dosage, and it was definitely the only drug the I could self identify that mood and personality effects were visible. Between those sides, the hassle of mixing it up, and a general mistrust of the veracity(and excessive price at the time) of tren that was starting to pop up from u.g. labs, I just didn't find it worth all that.
I train at a student gym, just the gym I went to in uni and I’ve stuck around for another year. And the amount of kids who openly admit to using gear is so sad. There is one kid who we know is on annavar, he has only been training about a year and can only bench 90kg, squat 110 and deadlift 120 and he is already slamming roids. Another kid can’t even deadlift 140kg and we know he injects testosterone. It’s so depressing, they’re putting there health and lives at risk for lifts that are easily achievable naturally
I literally saw potatoes once that were huge and had veins all over them like they were on steroids and were pissed off and about to murder everyone in the store lmao.
Trenb75mg EOD 6 weeks max, 12 weeks off. Don't judt stay in it forever more . Tren isn't like test you just cant keep on and on. Don't be ruled by the results, but rule the results.
Acne is usually caused by estrogen either high or low,, and is usually triggered by the change in dose and not the dose itself. Going on something or coming off. Once your settled in it usually goes away. But with tren adding sweat you for sure want to shower at least twice a day, change sheets regularly and sanitize workout benches regularly to keep bacteria down.
I used Tren at 150-200mg a week with Test at 600 for a couple years! I looked great but would literally get out of breath and start sweating tying my shoes or going up a single flight of stairs. lol I wouldn't use that compound again.
@@WALTAH2000 psychological effects vary with person and dose. Pilkie isn’t entirely foolhardy to think about using it for that. A little bit of tren can open your eyes to bullshit in both other people and yourself. It can however easily go too far and make you paranoid and damage relationships. But if you gave a simp a little tren for a few weeks you would likely cure him. On Tren you don’t put people on pedestals. Tren tends to cure people of being followers, and if you’re willing to look in the mirror it can cure you of your weaknesses , self deception and excuses too. But don’t listen to the doses you hear experienced gym rats throw around. 20mg every other day, so 60mg a week is a lot for some people to start. And you need a test base and p5p or Cabergoline to control prolactin and primo, Masteron and/ or aromisin possibly to control estrogen. It’s complicated to do it right. Good luck.
A "friend of mine" has been on Tren-A, 100 MG every other day, along with 700mg of test per week. Only eating 1750 Cals per day. Gaining muscle and losing fat weekly. Absolutely zero side effects so far after about 4 weeks.
a lot of times the rosacia is caused by food. not telling you what's wrong with you, but maybe it's worth looking at? i get it and so does half my fam, and it's food related for us.
I always wanted to ask guys that do a few cycles, for a few years, "Do you kinda start all the way back from the beginning? And to what degree can you, go OFF gear and still train and eat to keep the gains. It's that downward slope, is it a slip, or a step down?
My experience: i got pretty bulky naturally over the last 4 years with home gym stuff, no drugs used. Attention i get is only from children or gym bros in the wild. Both make me uncomfortable. Im not an antisocial weirdo or anything. I just keep sh!t to myself
As a trainer for 35 years… when people talk about the surge in standards… they’re not talking about the 50’s or 70’s lol. It isn’t better training… 😂😂😂. Oy…..
I've never taken nor do I have a desire to take steroids but I find these videos very interesting. It makes me laugh when I hear influencers state "I don't even know about steroids" with a straight face these days. That excuse is the most obvious tell that you're a fake natty in the current world of information.
Just because there's information out there doesn't mean everyone has the desire to seek it. If someone's a natural and has absolutely no intentions of using steroids then it's within reason that they wouldn't know all the different types and how exactly they work.
19:30 I wonder who was that strongman from UK specialising in deadlift that allegedly took 2grams of tren per week 🤔 and if his surname rhymes with "mall"?
Tren cough hit me the same. Soon as I inject. Like breathing in smoke during a fire. Instantaneously. Very strange. But last literally only a min or two tops. Imagine just a very irritated, scratchy sore throat. Not painful or anything, just annoying. On happens with tren. But doesn’t happen every time. Not sure what caused it though. Personally I think it’s how much tren I’m actually injecting is what causes mine. Personally I mix my gear in the needle. So my 5ml syringe will have 2ml test, 1 1/2ml tren and 1 1/2 masteron for instance. So I inject 1ml eod. Other times I’d do 2 1/2ml test and 2 1/2ml tri-tren mix. That shot will more than likely make me cough at least once in those 5 injections. The first mix will make me cough maybe once throughout that whole bottle of tren. And I only use tren e. Not sure if the different esters cause it or not.
As an aside, soldier in actual combat are 100% coked or drugged out of their mind in some way. There is no reason not to take drugs if your life depends on your reaction time in that moment
Never did Tren, never will. BUT Test makes me sweat, bad. I have used most AAS but for some reason, I cannot tolerate higher doses of test. Even my TRT dose is like 60mg/week (in four 15mg shots) I started on 200mg and could barely sleep. But I can handle Nandrolone (prefer NPP) better than most... unless during a relationship lol I told myself no tren, no HGH, and no insulin. Also no orals except Anavar. I have been able to stick with that. I'm good with on low dose test TRT/HCG and about 300mg NPP/week when I wanna bulk a bit.
The rise of mass monsters is all down to drug access and drug culture. Most lifters don't have the genetics, know-how or work ethic to get big. It's the easy access and acceptability of drugs that is driving these guys and also it shortens the lives of many lifters in the process, as they are taking huge quantities for long periods of time and often of dubious quality, recklessly!
Hi @AlexanderBromley. I have question about BaseStrength AI: due to lower back issue (not related to sport: I have accident 10 Years ago) I need to replace OHP & Standing Dumbbell Press with seated smith press and seated Dumbbell Press. Is it possible to make such exercises swap in BaseStrength AI application?
So glad I didn’t hop on when I was younger. I been throwing weights around for 30 years. Now that I’m in my late 40’s and feel like TRT is on the horizon, I’m glad I have a solid baseline to work from and I didn’t already shoot this shot in my early twenties. Unless you’re competing, save it for when you need it.
52. Been a trainer for 30 years. You don’t ever need trt outside of a serious medical condition. Don’t kids yourself - why go on a permanent cycle now when you made it this far natural? Don’t do it. Age gracefully. You can still keep most of what you’re got - and even improve in some ways.
@@mikehuff9793 no problem bro. Thats my 2 cents anyways. They are pushing it so hard… pretending it’s not steroids… it’s trt! Which is… steroids lol. It’s a low (though not all that low) permanent cycle, you’re supposed to do forever. We don’t really have good long term data on it. There might be all kinds of risks. And we know you CAN have all the same side effects as regular cycles. Now granted… it’s low dose so you are less likely to have them… and get a lot of people get away with higher cycles for a long time. I certainly don’t think the majority will drop dead lol… but at least a few will have some bad side effects… and long term… probably issues for some. I can say that my age, I know my test is down, but hey, everything still works, when I go from summer mountaineering mode to winter training, I can still put muscle back on not much slower than I did in my prime. Will never hit 500lb squat again - but that’s due more to various injuries. Can still hit pretty high on most lifts where injury isn’t a problem. More stretching and emphasis on some area that were weakening due to age actually means I’m improving from 48… lol. All I can say is, you can probably do just fine without - especially with your good base, knowledge, and work ethic. Maybe you won’t match the gym juicers. But Out in the real world, you’ll still look damn fit, and still be damn strong compared to the general populace! Maybe if I start fading away drastically at some point, I’ll consider it… but things are going fine now, and I won’t have to worry about some extra risk - even if it’s small - of.. who knows prostate, heart, cancer… cutting me short when it wouldn’t have before!!
I tried tren ace once. Felt cold and emotionless. Could barely sleep maybe 4 hours a night at most. But the side effect that got me to stop was the fact that I wanted sex with my wife all the time but I couldn’t finish when we did go at it. I could only stay on it for two weeks before I had to take a break. But I’ll admit the strength and size gains were phenomenal unlike anything I’ve ever experienced.
I haven't dead, squat, benched in 6 years. Would crash under 315 (at bottom), where I could not lift off ground, weak. I practice law. But this channel is good. Good sign. Good cut of jib.
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I always take advice from drug addicts who think they are alpha males, but really they just follow every rule ever presented to them from authorities.
Buddy you breathe so loud I can hear how clogged your sinuses are
roids are just as commen as weed
Another interesting fact about tren is that Mike O'Hearn's testicles naturally produce it.
Now that was funny! Have a great night.
I love Mike, but that is a good one.
Lol! Great post going around this forum today.
Hahahahaahahaah
Damn😂
My body is failing because of the years of never taking my foot off the gas. No one cared how big and strong I was back then and now my biggest regret is that I can't do what I want to do anymore. None of this crap is worth it if you want to look and perform your best the remaining 2/3rds of your life
Damn
How do you feel your body failing you?
Damn man what happened ?
I get compliments every day and random people stop to shake my hand and take pictures of me simply because I’m massive. I just had a blonde girl stop at the grocery store and smile at me all crazy looking. I kept looking behind me wondering what she was looking at then she said wow your arms are amazing!
Im 31 and have been on steroids for one year and i can see why this is addictive. I get looks everywhere and when my shirt comes off at the pool or beach all eyes are on me. I have kids come up to me and talk to me and they want to be like me some even ask me about steroids.
@richie: true story bro 😂
Hearing Bromley's nose whistle as he breathes really helps me envision resting my head on his chest at night. Tuck me in daddy, let's get these gains
Bro?
When you see me reacting with my mouth hanging open, you know it was this comment
Wtf bro AHAHA
Would
I found this comment to be horrifying and also relieving, because I kept pausing the video to see if it was Bromley or my big ass.😅
I’m glad I just lift weights for health/fun at home.
Crack is actually fairly conservative as far as street drugs go. It's mostly just old school traditionalist crackheads using it exclusively today. I feel like the "meth of steroids" would be more accurate.
lmao hipster druggies on the streets
It really nails the paranoia and insomnia, too
“Old school traditionalist crackheads”
Incredible phrase
Crack will blow up your heart or if you’re lucky, just give you an ascending aortic aneurysm. The argument that ‘at least it’s not as bad as krokodil’ is ridiculous. I believe if you check, you’ll find directly attributable drug deaths (1990-2013) due to crack far exceeded meth (which mostly drives you crazy and makes your teeth fall out and jaw rot). I think what the good doc is getting at is that, just like crack is like supercharged coke, tren is like supercharged steroids.
@@davidec.4021 Crack connoisseurs if you will.
What a beautiful intro noise, really reminded me of the noise I made when I deadlifted 45lbs after only 2 years of training 🗿😤
Dad noises are real.
They are😂
I’ll stay natty ✅
Me too. Live long and prosper!
…..Me three!
I’m proud of my strength i feel more super human!
Good for you, stay small & weak..
Yeah. I’m 64 and as strong as a lot of the cheaters. I like knowing it’s me, and not dope.
@@onerider808 ain’t got nothin against the freedom of others but it’s definitely a badge of honor ….specially nowadays 💪🏼
Babe wake up, another tren video dropped
Dr Chris is one of the best medical content creators on the platform
If the tren twins were the coke twins it'd feel very different and probably be a TLC show
I remember them saying they don’t even take tren they just liked the name lol idk if that’s changed tho
@@mattbattaglia4694 there was a video some months back where they were describing their cycle and a tren dosage was mentioned.
@@zerrodefex yeah very shortly after making this comment I watched one of their newest videos and they were like "is it too early to go on tren" lol
It turns out Mike O' Hearn was just a bottle of Tren disguised as a person....
My last tren cycle, The big side affect I got was nausea every waking second of the day. Eas a nightmare, felt like I was on a moving boat the entire time it was in me
I think you should take a look at your blood pressure
That’s weird. I agree BP is a place to look, but when something like that starts happening, back off the dose immediately. Listen to your body bro.
i tried Anapolon 50mg orals years ago and the nausea within half and hour of taking it was so bad i was heaving with clear saliva running from my mouth just similiar to being very drunk on spirits and puking.
@SuperCanuck777 jeeez. Remind me to never go near anapolon then 😂
Dude yesterday was my first tren dose ever and the next day I was nauseated feeling like I'm about to throw up, took 4 pills of paracetamol and I was fine
I like Dr. Chris Raynor’s videos
Thanks for this video, young man. Back in 2020, after 26 years away from the gym(51 yrs old), I went to Golds gym. On my first day ( before Covid-19 restrictions kicked in, and I stopped working out again) one of the personal trainers told me about sarms. Please keep in mind it's been decades since I even picked up a dumbbell, so I was clueless about what she was talking about. After a brief explanation, I declined and decided to be natural and tap into my potential without worrying about potential side effects from steroids. . Back during my high school years in the late eighties, quite a few of the athletes I worked out with were using steroids. Even back "roid rage" was commonly known about, but guys wanted to get bigger and stronger, so health be dammed.
I called a fitness lab to see someone about TRT and the guy offered me HGH lol.
Thank you for a sober, reflective, and realistic perspective on roids. I'm a recent sub but this is exactly why I subbed: a mature and insightful commentary.
Nicely done, mate.
Honestly, after my years of training naturally, I got on gear at 29. Test, deca and EQ were my go to's. I tried tren with test at 34. And I can't relate to the extreme sexual impluses, maybe a little more promiscuous, but nothing my wife complained about. My agression was a bit higher as well, but I feel like having the mental maturity is a big benefactor for that compound. Understanding and evaluating your thoughts in the third person on a regular basis after counseling at a young age for anger paid off.
The night sweats and insomina however were unreal. The only thing i'll say is the recovery was also unreal. I could get 4hrs of sleep and push through a 14hr day, do a 2hr gym session and keep doing that the length of the cycle (3 months, too long.) it's very intoxicating to stay on with all the big benefits in that way. My cardio was only slightly affected because I had been an endurance athlete long before gear and kept on it.
Unfortunatly i'll have to say, will run it again in the near future, but definitely not something I would cruise on year round like test.
i just did that today and i'm a premenopausal 33 yo
At only 300 mg test and 150 mg tren-e I got every side effect including brown liquid leaking from my nips. I took prami and caber in order to combat the sides and they turned me into a zombie from extreme lethargy and made my orgasms not feel satisfying, which has been a recurring problem since. I had to stop taking it because I couldn't even get in quality gym sessions with all the side effects. With that said, I was the most shredded I've been. I would never take it again or recommend it though.
Supposed to run Tren higher than test since it’s 3x stronger.
Wow using E is rough. Weaker with worse side effects and when you don't like it it's in you so much longer. We all do stupid things brother I wish you a good recovery
Always insist on quality tren, bathtub doesn't cut it, you greatly increase your chances of getting side effects.
Crikey; I wouldn’t care if I was ripped, jacked, yoked, and strong AF, if Tren made my balls shrink, my heart grow, and my nips swell and ‘leak’ fluid…at the first sign of that shit I’d be (like now) just natty and sorta strong.
@@xxx0ox0 Worse sides than what, acetate? I find that hard to believe. The ester is very unlikely to determine intensity of sides.
Your inflammation and cortisol hypothesis about love handles was very interesting. Def onto something there
omg the realest background. Finally! A RUclipsr I can relate to lol
The breathing gets me😂
I'm listening to this while getting my steps in.
So like, when are you gonna make a video about your beef with squat university? Cause it's like constant ribbing but never anything specific. Can you please go into the specifics?
Bc they love dogma
Not only has the opportunities for bodybuilding type physiques increased, the gene pool has literally more than doubled since 1970, from under 4 billion people to over 8 billion, and a larger percentage of those people have access to nutrition and Healthcare on top of various forme of media and global communications.
I did it a year ago, all my bloodwork is pretty much back to normal and I still have the 10-15 lbs of muscle I put on in 2 months. Stay grinding though.
2:22 🤣🤣🤣
A wild Omni man has appeared
Mr Paris
We called it Phena 25 years ago. Around 2008 the kids started calling it Tren from the name of its active ingredient.
Yeah, we made it from Finaplix cattle implants... The guys before us called it Parabolan.
Finaplex! That’s the name I remember! And Fina cough!
O M G! Make you feel like your about to cough a lung up!
I was going to take oral steroids back in the day when I worked at the gym. I was going to do oral steroids because I hate needles but the only reason I didn't was because of the liver side effects. I still want to take steroids but... I mean I feel like I'll die. Also huge respect to you for your honestly and dropping knowledge.
You probably don't it ruins everything for you. Do you get unmotivated when you're weaker than last week? Do you wish you were stronger than before? Well what once was your dedication and hard work is now dictated by your cycle
Also messes up your balls. A lot of users report not feeling orgasms.
Life is short just do it, there’s more information out there to do it correctly than before, we’re all dying anyways so make the best of the little time we have
@@Mario-su1jz That’s like saying a lot of drivers report crashing into stuff. Yes, if you don’t do it right you can have problems. Using androgynous testosterone will shut down your own production (messes up your balls ) temporarily, but you don’t need your balls producing testosterone when you’re providing it. And the feeling orgasms and other sexual problems are caused by taking the wrong combination of gear and driving your estrogen and prolactin out of their proper ratios.
All of these problems are avoidable, and all of them go away when you stop the gear or get your dosing adjusted. Unless of course you’re an idiot who blasts huge amounts of gear for years and doesn’t do it right. So to sum up, yes, if you don’t know what you’re doing you can have problems, but fortunately if you have problems you can just make adjustments or stop and it’ll all go back to normal. Good luck.
@@bellapoolstfu stop influencing newcomers to this shit
Alex Trenley in the thumbnail
Even talk of gear makes me anxious. Hell, if coffee makes me paranoid, I don’t think gear is for me. Haha.
The nasal breathing in the background is iconic 🤣😭
Bromley, I was listening to you breath the whole video.
2:21 that imitation caught me off guard lmao that was hilarious!
Can I just say, I had this out with the whole revival fitness and the noble natty community, as the noble natties of which I'll admit I side with the most said you can't say everyone is on steroids because you don't know.
And while I agree, I think a lot of the noble natties seem to think only a portion of people are on steroids.
I'm in the UK and this is just my experience in my small town of which there are around 4 gyms.
The first gym, the owner is well known to sell steroids, and from his clientele base, it's very easy to tell that they're on something.
The second gym, all the guys who took steroids from the guy who owned the first gym moved there, and guess what, they're all on steroids.
The third gym, my gym, i frequently hear the guys in there, talking about their stacks, while deadlifting 320kg and complaining about not being able to engage their lats.
The fourth gym is predominantly CrossFit.
And all of that's in a small town.
No not everyone is on steroids, but a lot of them are.
Look at the Olympics, look at the NFL, baseball, MMA, rugby, are people that naive to think they're just natural specimens with diet, good training and elite genetics.
They maybe are, but they're also on gear.
What rugby player is spending most of his time playing rugby but can bench press olympic records on the side while barely training it at all.
Open your eyes. Jesus Christ.
bro the entire video is alexander sitting there watching without saying anything and you can just hear him breating heavily in the background. this is my frist time watching him and i love it😂
A lot of people can taste injected substances. Especially IV. There are tons of little capillaries in your lungs and maybe that's why. I don't know for sure but it would make sense for something that was more aggressive to actually cause coughing.
Wait... a guy in the IPF was blasting tren year round?
PS
I've been going to gyms for 20 years in various countries and cities and never been offered steroids. Do you have to ask people or do they
usually offer?
Lol even "drug tested" federation's are super easy to beat
I love your content. One video I watched I thought was a bit off the mark, but I think overall you have a lot of valuable insights. I took some tren and I was lucky to not have obvious side effects, but I did have some issues that I had to resolve with gyno itchiness etc which I have never had with anything else. I had some caber on hand but still.... it is just a question of cost vs benefit. I would say overall the cost and benefit isnt just there, especially for normal people who don't really make any money off being bigger or stronger faster. I have another vial or two there, and I will use that in september and I think never again. At my age, I think I will go for a kind of slightly higher than TRT test level, cycle off , have some anavar from time to time. I use steroids as recreational drugs, I would have to admit. It is just a kind of fun thing - I do like being high testosterone, even if the cost is some occasional low points with zero sex drive. I am 50 years old though. The idea of being stupid like this when 20 years old is just insane. Women don't even like huge people. You can just max out the bench press in some shitty gym and you will be strong enough and muscular enough for any reasonable day to day need. My problem is that I use exercise for mental health, so I like the idea of recovering quickly and doing more. Its stupid. I am an idiot, but life is good almost every day. I wont do tren after this next bunch. Its stupid.
You ever think mad cow disease was just cows roid raging off of tren?
The acne. Never gotten acne my whole life. Got a crazy horrible back and should acne after just few weeks of use.
So if Trenbolone is no longer commercial isn't most of it, if not all, with synthetic oils?
I like this type of content! Nice work!
I remember back in 94 a friend got a few of us primobolin but because it was amples after about 3 weeks incredible size and strength which primo never did that I looked at the ample in light and it was actually Parabolan! I would of never used it if I knew! Always examine what you get to make sure!
Lol that’s hilarious
@@PumpedAntics Yeah, called my friend because we were all breaking records in the gym and told him he needs to read the amples closely! Thank God I caught it ! Definitely not close to what primobolin does! He continued using it, I decided to taper off but wow what a powerful hormone it is!
Were you injecting under the cover of darkness
Pharmaceutical grade Para? Shit you were blessed not cursed! 3 amps of that week is the bomb!
@@DG-nb6fe Yeah! and out of all 3 of us that got it, I was the only one that actually caught on to what it was! I knew something wasn't right all 3 of us were breaking records in the gym!
Room temperature IQ goes crazy
Is the deadlift specialist from the UK also claiming to have a myostatin limiting genetic defect! I can totally see 2 grama of trenbolone there
Wouldn't be inclined to believe a word out of Hall's mouth
The black tar from fern gully lol. Love that movie
That was 49 minutes of Alex breathing on the microphone 😂😂
Mr. Bromley tells it from one of the biggest hearts (dissynonymous with pathogenic “cardiac hypertrophy”) on the strength scene. Knowledge gained from extensive experience, and delivered with humility, candor, humor and some self-deprecation lodges in the brain for consideration. The hype and fluff of other presenters, some with glossy eye appeal over actual substance, may make me feel enlightened, but fail to cause me to think!
Lives and “living” are spared when we seek a more methodical and patient approach to our goals.
Tren is my early retirement plan lol
Y u breathing so heavy ur sitting down lad jesus
Oral Methyltrienolone. That is the crack of steroids.
My eyes just turned yellow reading that
@@AlexanderBromley holy shit. The man himself. Thank you for that kind sir.
I tried it for a short while. No yellow eyes. Could definitely power through anything. Not a good long term strategy haha
Yeah and superdrol, both too harse to run longer than 21 days. Kinda pointless when test, eq, primo, deca work great for 4-5 months.
@@DG-nb6fe in all honesty SWIM tried methyl tren for like a year and a half off and on. Sleep didn’t suffer much. Didn’t have a sex drive but not like SWIM couldn’t. SWIM just didn’t really want it as much as normal. Which was a nice change of pace. If SWIM runS it 250 mcg every day, with anastrozole, could work.
I'm quite immune to roids, but 2mg of this preworkout, it's dark & gloomy thoughts, gravity reduces and I pee orange for next 24 hours ..scary stuff. Anadrol seems like candy compared to it.
someone on tren is the equivalent to one of those burgers from the movie "good burger" 😂
Mondo burger lololol too good
Inability to get proper stuff is the real problem now. Most users are probably still getting underground garbage, at least here in the states.
At best what they get is underdosed. But there is also the fact that they use synthetic oils. That's my real issue with that.
Great vid Alex. I consider my self lucky that during my competitive/ heavier use years, tren hadn't quite reached the mythic status it has today. My only experiences were a couple of runs with some Finaplex I mixed up with a conversion kit at a pretty moderate dosage, and it was definitely the only drug the I could self identify that mood and personality effects were visible. Between those sides, the hassle of mixing it up, and a general mistrust of the veracity(and excessive price at the time) of tren that was starting to pop up from u.g. labs, I just didn't find it worth all that.
I train at a student gym, just the gym I went to in uni and I’ve stuck around for another year. And the amount of kids who openly admit to using gear is so sad.
There is one kid who we know is on annavar, he has only been training about a year and can only bench 90kg, squat 110 and deadlift 120 and he is already slamming roids. Another kid can’t even deadlift 140kg and we know he injects testosterone. It’s so depressing, they’re putting there health and lives at risk for lifts that are easily achievable naturally
Shut up lmao
Great video. Very informative and entertaining. 🙏🙏💪💪
I am 21 and work out for only 1,5h year and it's so hard to hold back and not just jump on something...
Shirts look 🔥🔥🔥
"Like, you're not a cow..." fucking killed me.
I literally saw potatoes once that were huge and had veins all over them like they were on steroids and were pissed off and about to murder everyone in the store lmao.
Trenb75mg EOD 6 weeks max, 12 weeks off. Don't judt stay in it forever more . Tren isn't like test you just cant keep on and on. Don't be ruled by the results, but rule the results.
Ran tren hex low dose, started getting acne and stopped.
Acne is usually caused by estrogen either high or low,, and is usually triggered by the change in dose and not the dose itself. Going on something or coming off. Once your settled in it usually goes away. But with tren adding sweat you for sure want to shower at least twice a day, change sheets regularly and sanitize workout benches regularly to keep bacteria down.
He’s obviously got some stories. Who’s the strongman he was talking about , the 2010s, was always injured?
I used Tren at 150-200mg a week with Test at 600 for a couple years! I looked great but would literally get out of breath and start sweating tying my shoes or going up a single flight of stairs. lol
I wouldn't use that compound again.
More reaction videos man love your insight and comments
I'm thinking of hopping on tren just for the psychological effects
You want depression and anxiety? Lol
Lol, maybe just eat some nightshade or belladonna and spare your heart snd balls
@@WALTAH2000if i already have both then it should cancel out
@@WALTAH2000 psychological effects vary with person and dose. Pilkie isn’t entirely foolhardy to think about using it for that. A little bit of tren can open your eyes to bullshit in both other people and yourself. It can however easily go too far and make you paranoid and damage relationships. But if you gave a simp a little tren for a few weeks you would likely cure him. On Tren you don’t put people on pedestals. Tren tends to cure people of being followers, and if you’re willing to look in the mirror it can cure you of your weaknesses , self deception and excuses too.
But don’t listen to the doses you hear experienced gym rats throw around. 20mg every other day, so 60mg a week is a lot for some people to start. And you need a test base and p5p or Cabergoline to control prolactin and primo, Masteron and/ or aromisin possibly to control estrogen. It’s complicated to do it right. Good luck.
Eddie hall ?
A "friend of mine" has been on Tren-A, 100 MG every other day, along with 700mg of test per week. Only eating 1750 Cals per day. Gaining muscle and losing fat weekly. Absolutely zero side effects so far after about 4 weeks.
You don't live with your friend do you? Cause if not you don't know what sides he goes through 😂
@@neomt2 we're pretty much inseparable😈
@@INFJason lol
@@neomt2”friend” 😝
a lot of times the rosacia is caused by food. not telling you what's wrong with you, but maybe it's worth looking at? i get it and so does half my fam, and it's food related for us.
I always wanted to ask guys that do a few cycles, for a few years, "Do you kinda start all the way back from the beginning? And to what degree can you, go OFF gear and still train and eat to keep the gains. It's that downward slope, is it a slip, or a step down?
My experience: i got pretty bulky naturally over the last 4 years with home gym stuff, no drugs used. Attention i get is only from children or gym bros in the wild.
Both make me uncomfortable.
Im not an antisocial weirdo or anything. I just keep sh!t to myself
keep going up your social max
41:00 Are you talking about Derek Pounds tone?
As a trainer for 35 years… when people talk about the surge in standards… they’re not talking about the 50’s or 70’s lol. It isn’t better training… 😂😂😂. Oy…..
I prefer masteron over primo. As for tren 150mg a week max. Jesus remembers the pellets for cattle where 76mg
Just learned that it's legal for me, but I quite like the sound of living to old age.
Anybody noticed stomach bloating with tren e?
I get hickup attacks that last days on Tren. Anyone else???
Great video. Thank you. Maybe just a tad too few arguments why one should not go on steroids just to be a little bigger than your teenage friends
I've never taken nor do I have a desire to take steroids but I find these videos very interesting. It makes me laugh when I hear influencers state "I don't even know about steroids" with a straight face these days. That excuse is the most obvious tell that you're a fake natty in the current world of information.
Just because there's information out there doesn't mean everyone has the desire to seek it. If someone's a natural and has absolutely no intentions of using steroids then it's within reason that they wouldn't know all the different types and how exactly they work.
I will say that except couple puddles of cold sweat, there was no bad side effects.
YellowJackets is an excellent show 👌🏻 great taste in visual media
19:30 I wonder who was that strongman from UK specialising in deadlift that allegedly took 2grams of tren per week 🤔 and if his surname rhymes with "mall"?
Powerlifters and top tier bodybuilders use 6-10 grams week. 4-5 grams testosterone as a base.
Tren cough hit me the same. Soon as I inject. Like breathing in smoke during a fire. Instantaneously. Very strange. But last literally only a min or two tops. Imagine just a very irritated, scratchy sore throat. Not painful or anything, just annoying. On happens with tren. But doesn’t happen every time. Not sure what caused it though. Personally I think it’s how much tren I’m actually injecting is what causes mine. Personally I mix my gear in the needle. So my 5ml syringe will have 2ml test, 1 1/2ml tren and 1 1/2 masteron for instance. So I inject 1ml eod. Other times I’d do 2 1/2ml test and 2 1/2ml tri-tren mix. That shot will more than likely make me cough at least once in those 5 injections. The first mix will make me cough maybe once throughout that whole bottle of tren. And I only use tren e. Not sure if the different esters cause it or not.
This makes me want to watch some old school Tyronne Biggums from Chapelle Show
Yepp shure was around even early 90s..even in sweden
Clicked like before watching because I have full confidence this will be GOLD
Isn't it counter culture to train without drugs now?
As an aside, soldier in actual combat are 100% coked or drugged out of their mind in some way. There is no reason not to take drugs if your life depends on your reaction time in that moment
The fascinating thing to me is the fact that it was used to improve libido, weight, and appetite in cattle before they were slaughtered.
thanks !
Was here when it was called “what is TREN?”
Never did Tren, never will. BUT Test makes me sweat, bad. I have used most AAS but for some reason, I cannot tolerate higher doses of test. Even my TRT dose is like 60mg/week (in four 15mg shots) I started on 200mg and could barely sleep. But I can handle Nandrolone (prefer NPP) better than most... unless during a relationship lol
I told myself no tren, no HGH, and no insulin. Also no orals except Anavar. I have been able to stick with that. I'm good with on low dose test TRT/HCG and about 300mg NPP/week when I wanna bulk a bit.
The rise of mass monsters is all down to drug access and drug culture. Most lifters don't have the genetics, know-how or work ethic to get big. It's the easy access and acceptability of drugs that is driving these guys and also it shortens the lives of many lifters in the process, as they are taking huge quantities for long periods of time and often of dubious quality, recklessly!
Hi @AlexanderBromley.
I have question about BaseStrength AI: due to lower back issue (not related to sport: I have accident 10 Years ago) I need to replace OHP & Standing Dumbbell Press with seated smith press and seated Dumbbell Press. Is it possible to make such exercises swap in BaseStrength AI application?
Sounds like you don't have a choice but swap similar exercise in due to injury
What dose is Sulek on 😂
Your wheezy breathing makes me want to rewatch Sopranos again.
solid video. I'[d like to hear your thots or your breakdown of non-anabolics like mk-677 or the recent love of various peptides.
So glad I didn’t hop on when I was younger. I been throwing weights around for 30 years. Now that I’m in my late 40’s and feel like TRT is on the horizon, I’m glad I have a solid baseline to work from and I didn’t already shoot this shot in my early twenties. Unless you’re competing, save it for when you need it.
52. Been a trainer for 30 years. You don’t ever need trt outside of a serious medical condition. Don’t kids yourself - why go on a permanent cycle now when you made it this far natural? Don’t do it. Age gracefully. You can still keep most of what you’re got - and even improve in some ways.
@@datacipher thanks for the advice. For real. Means the world❤️
@@mikehuff9793 no problem bro. Thats my 2 cents anyways. They are pushing it so hard… pretending it’s not steroids… it’s trt! Which is… steroids lol. It’s a low (though not all that low) permanent cycle, you’re supposed to do forever. We don’t really have good long term data on it. There might be all kinds of risks. And we know you CAN have all the same side effects as regular cycles. Now granted… it’s low dose so you are less likely to have them… and get a lot of people get away with higher cycles for a long time. I certainly don’t think the majority will drop dead lol… but at least a few will have some bad side effects… and long term… probably issues for some. I can say that my age, I know my test is down, but hey, everything still works, when I go from summer mountaineering mode to winter training, I can still put muscle back on not much slower than I did in my prime. Will never hit 500lb squat again - but that’s due more to various injuries. Can still hit pretty high on most lifts where injury isn’t a problem. More stretching and emphasis on some area that were weakening due to age actually means I’m improving from 48… lol. All I can say is, you can probably do just fine without - especially with your good base, knowledge, and work ethic. Maybe you won’t match the gym juicers. But Out in the real world, you’ll still look damn fit, and still be damn strong compared to the general populace! Maybe if I start fading away drastically at some point, I’ll consider it… but things are going fine now, and I won’t have to worry about some extra risk - even if it’s small - of.. who knows prostate, heart, cancer… cutting me short when it wouldn’t have before!!
I've gotten great gains on test eq and var. Don't plan on trying tren ever
I tried tren ace once. Felt cold and emotionless. Could barely sleep maybe 4 hours a night at most. But the side effect that got me to stop was the fact that I wanted sex with my wife all the time but I couldn’t finish when we did go at it. I could only stay on it for two weeks before I had to take a break. But I’ll admit the strength and size gains were phenomenal unlike anything I’ve ever experienced.
I haven't dead, squat, benched in 6 years. Would crash under 315 (at bottom), where I could not lift off ground, weak. I practice law. But this channel is good. Good sign. Good cut of jib.
You getting on tren then?
@@PumpedAntics no idea what that means but it it means carbs and salt, I am pisarenko.
Cow testicles? Let us have a scientific debate about that