Just now I looked at your channel history, Sir. I cannot believe that people aren't aware of how good your presentations are. Hardly any can even be compared for campfire work.
It's been a rough day, but you brought a smile to my face and thanks for that. I love quality tools, can't afford many anymore, but still love the ones I have.
Years ago I got a cheap £3 asda gardening saw and it cut, but it was rough. Then got a laplander which was 5 times the price of the asda, but the quality was a huge leap. Then got a Gomboy which again about 4 times the price of the laplander, but the cut quality leapt again. A good one to watch for is the Chinese Pocketboy, which I got after seeing Scott's and its about best £6 of saw you can get. It's not going to wow you with cutting quality, but its so cheap it's handy as tool to just throw in a bag for if you spot a decent piece of project wood, or fancy a brew on the fly.
Thank you for a fair and impartial comparison. I think you confirmed what most of us already know, you get what you pay for. The thing is, not all of us bushcrafters need a saw that big very often, so it's nice to see that we can buy something adequate for occasional use, for a tenner. And I think this holds true with most of our kit. I have £10 - £15 Mora knives that work for what I do, no need to spend £100s on custom blades. I used a £5 folding saw from Wilko for years, before I treated myself to a Silky. My day pack is an LK35 I bought for under £30, I have a Zebra Head 14cm pot that cost £15 and a £20 3m × 3m Chinese made tarp that cost about £15 on ebay. You really don't need to spend a fortune, especially when you're getting started, you just need to know the difference between cheap and inexpensive.
The Irwin saw reminds me of the Cold Steel Bushman knife. Cheap with a hollow handle. I always meant to get a bushman knife, but always found something I wanted more!
When I was looking up the Zubat I saw that they have a version with an extension handle to cut things high up. That company thinks of everything. The word comes from a Japanese word that means "the sound when a target is hit perfectly" so it's spot on 😎
The point is Rob, those Irwin saws and the like are pretty much the Stanley knife blade of the saw world. If you just want a sharp knife for rough work you'd just buy a Stanley, you wouldn't buy a hand made knife for a few hundred quid, even though it's far superior. The same goes with the pruning saw, if you trash it, leave it in the rain or on site, who cares to much. I use things like that for plaster board or cellcon blocks, I'm sure a Silky would be better but not at sixty quid. But the comparison was worth making, if only to show you can bush craft on a budget until you can afford better. 👍🇩🇪
Silky are so good because they're designed for green wood (pruning) but will outcut most other drywood bladed saws when it comes to a bit of dry firewood.
Very good demo. Life might depend on a saw in some circumstances...my nightmare scenario (one that turns out favorably), is having a big branch land on my protected shelter and having to saw my way out. That's why I bought a nice curved Silky. At least I can sleep better...with a fantasy escape from a fantasy horror. Darn! Now I need a camp shovel :)
Yes you usually get what ya pay for, I love expensive tools and blades, but I guess cheap is sometimes ok. I do have some crap stuff in the workshop that I can abuse without worrying over cost. Cheers Rob you are always appreciated , enjoy your nice break from work this Xmas
My inexpensive Corona saw sails through wood to mix a metaphor. A Fiskars will too and less expensive. Curved blade increases cutting area making faster cutting.
No Brainer.😁🤘 get what you pay for. 👍🤪 GREAT DEMO ROB.👊👏👏👏👏👏 Next time someone comes up with some bright idea 💡💡💡 get there credit card details. They can pay for the product and you Test it.
@@RobEvansWoodsman first time i disagree! The arch on the branch made any cut by any saw, binding, without a relief cut or propping up the the arch. An axe was in order! Just my humble opinion and I agree with Jason, lol. Neither of us were there but the angle of the video seemed to suggest it. If you were my boss, I'd be fired about now, lol
I'll add my two cents to the discussion. LOL. When I did my cross cutting training I think I'd have flunked my test if I'd kept on going on the down cut when my saw kept binding and failed to do an up cut. 😎
I think it boils down to the TPI and the hardness of the teeth combined with thickness and quality of the steel. Also, I think that these cheap Pruning Saws are more designed towards green wood pruning than they are meant for dead standing or fallen hardwoods. You didn't say whether or not el-cheapo Screwfix cuts only on the backstroke or both forwards and backwards. I love my ZUBAT, but I am not a great fan of the scabbard and IF I ever get around to making my own review of it, I will explain why. BTW, the reply I got from SILKY European HQ was on the lines of, 'we're good at making saws, but not so good at making sheaths/scabbards'. Make of that what you will. Not much point trying to explain that to an Arborist 10 metres up a tree is there. 🤦♂️🤷♂️😉
it cut both ways just not very well, i was thinking of buying a silky blade and handling it myself and giving it a nice leather sheath but i never got around to it.
Just now I looked at your channel history, Sir. I cannot believe that people aren't aware of how good your presentations are. Hardly any can even be compared for campfire work.
I'll thank you now not later for your kind words, pure genius often gets overlooked. 🤣🤣🤣
I'm a bit "marmite" I think, not quite everyone's cup of tea.
@@RobEvansWoodsman an earthenware cooking container?
@@RobEvansWoodsman
Marmite tea is disgusting
(Sorry)
google it. its a foodstuff that you either love or hate.
@@RobEvansWoodsmanare you talking to me? Lol
It's been a rough day, but you brought a smile to my face and thanks for that. I love quality tools, can't afford many anymore, but still love the ones I have.
No bloopers!
You're becoming too proficient and slick!
I know, it wasn't a lot of time filming to mess up.
Great comparison
I agree that in general you get what you work or pay for. Be careful what you buy, Don't risk your arse buying junk.
Cheers
Silky saws are one of the bests.
Years ago I got a cheap £3 asda gardening saw and it cut, but it was rough.
Then got a laplander which was 5 times the price of the asda, but the quality was a huge leap.
Then got a Gomboy which again about 4 times the price of the laplander, but the cut quality leapt again.
A good one to watch for is the Chinese Pocketboy, which I got after seeing Scott's and its about best £6 of saw you can get. It's not going to wow you with cutting quality, but its so cheap it's handy as tool to just throw in a bag for if you spot a decent piece of project wood, or fancy a brew on the fly.
I forgot Scott has one , red handle.
I'm tempted to buy a mid price straight blade pruning saw now, samurai probably.
@@RobEvansWoodsman I like the curved blade on the Gomboy and Bigboy. Think the straight blade on the pocket boy is an advantage for detail work.
Thank you for a fair and impartial comparison. I think you confirmed what most of us already know, you get what you pay for. The thing is, not all of us bushcrafters need a saw that big very often, so it's nice to see that we can buy something adequate for occasional use, for a tenner. And I think this holds true with most of our kit. I have £10 - £15 Mora knives that work for what I do, no need to spend £100s on custom blades. I used a £5 folding saw from Wilko for years, before I treated myself to a Silky. My day pack is an LK35 I bought for under £30, I have a Zebra Head 14cm pot that cost £15 and a £20 3m × 3m Chinese made tarp that cost about £15 on ebay. You really don't need to spend a fortune, especially when you're getting started, you just need to know the difference between cheap and inexpensive.
Spot on Anthony.
The Irwin saw reminds me of the Cold Steel Bushman knife. Cheap with a hollow handle. I always meant to get a bushman knife, but always found something I wanted more!
i have one, never used it, forgot i had it!
When I was looking up the Zubat I saw that they have a version with an extension handle to cut things high up. That company thinks of everything. The word comes from a Japanese word that means "the sound when a target is hit perfectly" so it's spot on 😎
The point is Rob, those Irwin saws and the like are pretty much the Stanley knife blade of the saw world. If you just want a sharp knife for rough work you'd just buy a Stanley, you wouldn't buy a hand made knife for a few hundred quid, even though it's far superior. The same goes with the pruning saw, if you trash it, leave it in the rain or on site, who cares to much. I use things like that for plaster board or cellcon blocks, I'm sure a Silky would be better but not at sixty quid. But the comparison was worth making, if only to show you can bush craft on a budget until you can afford better. 👍🇩🇪
Silky are so good because they're designed for green wood (pruning) but will outcut most other drywood bladed saws when it comes to a bit of dry firewood.
Very good demo. Life might depend on a saw in some circumstances...my nightmare scenario (one that turns out favorably), is having a big branch land on my protected shelter and having to saw my way out. That's why I bought a nice curved Silky. At least I can sleep better...with a fantasy escape from a fantasy horror.
Darn! Now I need a camp shovel :)
Good comparison 👏
Thx Rob
Good video I'm glad the zubat won because I have a zubat
No big suprise There. You pay for quality. Enjoyed the video.💪
Yes you usually get what ya pay for, I love expensive tools and blades, but I guess cheap is sometimes ok. I do have some crap stuff in the workshop that I can abuse without worrying over cost. Cheers Rob you are always appreciated , enjoy your nice break from work this Xmas
My inexpensive Corona saw sails through wood to mix a metaphor. A Fiskars will too and less expensive. Curved blade increases cutting area making faster cutting.
No Brainer.😁🤘 get what you pay for. 👍🤪 GREAT DEMO ROB.👊👏👏👏👏👏 Next time someone comes up with some bright idea 💡💡💡 get there credit card details. They can pay for the product and you Test it.
I've said no to a few things but £10 isn't much to spend, found a samurai saw on Amazon £15 , think I'll order it.
@@RobEvansWoodsman very cool. That should be a good video for comparison.😁👍
You need to make undercuts on the hung up branch to stop binding for both saws
It was binding long before an undercut would have been necessary.
@@RobEvansWoodsman first time i disagree! The arch on the branch made any cut by any saw, binding, without a relief cut or propping up the the arch. An axe was in order! Just my humble opinion and I agree with Jason, lol. Neither of us were there but the angle of the video seemed to suggest it. If you were my boss, I'd be fired about now, lol
thats me put in my place , lol.
i'm not the kind of guy to fire someone for giving their opinion.
I'll add my two cents to the discussion. LOL. When I did my cross cutting training I think I'd have flunked my test if I'd kept on going on the down cut when my saw kept binding and failed to do an up cut. 😎
@@RobEvansWoodsman A man could consider himself fortunate to work with you as his boss. All the best!... Regards, Chuck
And you Really need to get a New Stump for a Chopping Block?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👊👊👊🤪👍
I think it boils down to the TPI and the hardness of the teeth combined with thickness and quality of the steel. Also, I think that these cheap Pruning Saws are more designed towards green wood pruning than they are meant for dead standing or fallen hardwoods. You didn't say whether or not el-cheapo Screwfix cuts only on the backstroke or both forwards and backwards. I love my ZUBAT, but I am not a great fan of the scabbard and IF I ever get around to making my own review of it, I will explain why. BTW, the reply I got from SILKY European HQ was on the lines of, 'we're good at making saws, but not so good at making sheaths/scabbards'. Make of that what you will. Not much point trying to explain that to an Arborist 10 metres up a tree is there. 🤦♂️🤷♂️😉
it cut both ways just not very well, i was thinking of buying a silky blade and handling it myself and giving it a nice leather sheath but i never got around to it.
Do you know why they are binding because the tree is springing back and forth.
It wasn't ideal but the tree was there begging to be cut.
Why are you wearing a Hezbollah Palestinian style neck scarf??
Because my Burberry one was in the wash.
Buy once cry once.
I like that.