I loved the sentence: "view the body as a sacred temple of perception, not just something that has to be kept healthy to live a little longer." Such unexpected wisdom. :)
Cynthia is a POWERHOUSE. She will save Christianity. Renate and Cynthia compliment and work so lovely together-NO EGO ,in particular. BRAVO!!!!! You will learn A LOT
Thank you so much Renata for inviting Cynthia - she is a tour de force in the world of spirituality and I love the clarity she brings to understanding the difference between the mind and the heart. I also wanted to tell her although she probably knows!!! That the Sufi path encompasses the spirit and prophecy of Jesus - the Sufi way is indeed the way of the universal heart.
She is.. so amazing. Truly grateful to have found a modern female mystic like Cynthia Bourgeault. She speaks beautifully about the terror, vastness, beauty, and suffering of existence.
Cynthia is speaking things that help my journey along and I thank God for her and the hard work she has done to make these insights so possible to hear and receive.
"Stop. Be" "Restful presence in the larger field of now." There is a mantra. Thank you for posting. The stillness, listening to the body and operating from the heart space, all incredibly important, this is where the work takes place I think. Not an easy journey but essential to freedom and living in compassion I sense. Blessings to everyone who has or is listening to this.
Bountiful thanks to you both for this precious time of such quality words on contemplation, mindfulness, abiding in the inner self, and so on. My attention was with you all the time! Not only I took notes as I was listening to you both, but definitely I will come back to listen to it again and again. I stayed present, I can grasp the essence and the thread of what is being said, but I’m sure that a good second or third listening will bring even more realization from my part. I will search for her books and learn more from her. 🙏🏻💐💞
I am in a Pisca Pelion and when I look around in our small church where we are seated in a semi circle, you can see maybe one of every five or six people is a swear or kind of has a pattern of movement while saying the crates and singing etc. I find I remember much more when I’m moving somehow. It feels natural to move while you were worshiping. I don’t know why most churches sit you down and talk at you for an hour. I don’t think I could do it.
Seems the best way to 'practice spirituality' is by not blaming anything/one for a n y t h i n g . Fear-based competitiveness only causes for one to behave outrageously contrary to the very philosophy they claim to embrace.As long as people see humans to be proprietarily afflicted with inefficiency (Ego etc), they will continue to suffer their asses off.
Cynthia Bourgeault quotes from this video: “I first touched in a very simple and direct way what you might call the mystical field of love that surrounds us and binds our hearts together and is the real presence of God.” “The path of Christianity that I'd formerly only known as doctrine and dogma shoved down my throat began to come alive in that same way it had as a child as the experience of love and beauty offered to the infinite.” “There was just that ancient sense of familiarity once again that this dimension that had been missing all my life that I hadn't found … was there.” “There was a deep sense of invitation to a path-it was really an initiation.” “I've worked closely with many of the religious traditions, and I have a great belief that like colors of the rainbow they all belong together, and it requires every one of them to show the full spectrum of divine love.” While I hold down the corner in Christianity, it really is a universal work. Each of the traditions participate in it in their own way to reveal what divine love looks like in created form.” “Try, wherever you are, to be conscious and to be grateful. See what needs to be done in the moment, and to do it in such a way that you're moving in a direction of greater compassion, greater love, and greater understanding.” “I don't have any sort of special notion of my importance or of being in some sort of consecrated path-that's too inflated terminology. Every human being is consecrated just by the fact of being born.” “We have our life to live, and we either live it awake and consciously or we snooze through it. And, if we live it awake and consciously, we touch other human beings who are trying that same way.” “I began to notice, to my horror, that no matter how much I preach the scripture at people, no matter how much you offered up the Eucharist, people remained people-gossipy, nasty, confrontational, divisive, always tending to splinter into small groups and to act out of their hidden agendas. And, I realized, ‘Dear God, there's nothing we've got here that's actually getting people to change.’” “Things always fall into your lap when you say you're searching.” “Life hangs together by some deeper coherence and compassion, and our theologies, and our doctrines, and our dogmas, and our principles try and take that and put it in mental form, but the mental form never touches that sense that something holds together … These are all kinds of things that are absolutely real, but they make no sense on the level of the mind alone.” “This era is about embodiment … We're in the body for a good reason, and the body is our profound vessel of truth and spiritual exploration.” “The world calls us to embodiment with every breath. We just have to learn to attune to it again and to value the body as a sacred temple of perception.” “One of the really powerful insights that the Christian tradition brings to the whole spiritual playing table of transformation is that these higher states of consciousness-these states that we call nondual, or unitive, or contemplative-aren't just attained by the mind alone. They're attained by bringing the mind into the heart.” “Kenosis is the word in Greek which Saint Paul used to depict putting on the mind of Christ. It basically is pretty close to what the Buddhists mean by non-clinging-doesn't hang on, doesn't insist, doesn't assert, doesn't grab, doesn't brace, doesn't defend.” “When you open your heart to the world, what you can guarantee is that your heart is going to be broken-and to hear the pain of the world and to hold the pain of the world.” “Religion is not a philosophy. God is not a first cause. All that level is just explanation; meaning is something different.” “At the obvious level, ‘freedom’ is what you'd call freedom from the false self.” “Most of us think we're free and yet we're not free at all because we're under the absolute compulsion of agendas, addictions, and aversions that have been programmed into us from early life and sometimes from the womb.” “As A.H. Almaas said so famously, ‘Freedom to be your ego is not freedom’ because that's slavery.” “Freedom begins when you can stabilize in yourself this thing that some of the Eastern traditions helpfully call ‘witnessing presence.’” “As you finally become free to follow what you might call the ‘homing beacon’ of your own inner calling, you realize that it's only in complete obedience that freedom lies … ‘Obedience’ comes from Latin, meaning ‘to listen deeply.’ As we listen deeply to the fundamental ‘tuning fork’ of our being-which is given to us not by ourself and is never about self-realization because the self melts as that realization comes closer-you find the only freedom is to be your own cell in the vast mystical body of God. But, you have to get free of the false self to see that.” “We often equate ‘going into silence’ to find profound states of being, and this will come around, but the first thing that silence does is it ruthlessly exposes the evasions. The first evasion is simply our own restlessness … And then you begin to discover the evasion of time … You begin to see that so much of what you thought you were about is only being cued to that evasion you've already set in place.” “What solitude is about is becoming more restful in embodiment.” “Centering prayer is a wonderful and simple form of meditation in the Christian tradition.” “Centering prayer is a non-clinging meditation practice. It really works with the simple idea of release, release, release-moving our mind from a state of being attached to an object to a state of letting go.” “In centering prayer, your intention is to let go of every thought. A thought is anything that brings your attention to a focal point-whether it's an idea, or an emotion, or an itch on your nose. If you become aware your attention is attached to it, you simply let it go. To help with that, you choose a simple, short word or phrase-one or two syllables like ‘God’ or ‘peace’ or ‘let go’-to help remind you to sweep it away. Whenever you begin to be aware that you're engaged with thinking, just let it go … Every time you let go of a thought-even if another comes back-you're practicing this deep motion of non-clinging, letting go, consenting, surrendering.”
. . To soar upon the winds of eternity as One with the ultimate radiant clear light of Divinity Sublime… and then to plunge into the sublunary existence... this is to know paradise lost. And once having been brought to this knowledge there is no turning back (even though we may often stumble through the shadows) for in the midst of this great darkness came/Is the Light, the only means by which we may once again soar upon the winds of eternity in harmony with and as a part of that Person Divine. This, then, is Hope. We need only believe in that which we have already seen through the eyes of hope, acting upon this vision as much as is in us to do so, trusting that “God” (Source?) will, is and has brought us to that perfect fruition in this world. In Spirit we have already attained to that Spirit Eternal. This, then, is Faith. And while we yet seem to dwell in this world of darkness, experiencing in faith that, by the Will of “God”, we have already received that promise of the fulfillment of Spirit (albeit yet in immaturity), we are by the very nature of that Spirit driven to both illuminate and inflame the souls of our fellow humankind. By this we know the fulfillment of the promise and in turn spread the Fire of the Spirit. In truth there is but one Realm, held within that One Spirit, for the fulfillment of that Spirit in all of it's various parts (though in truth it is all ONE). This, then, is Love. . It is in Love that we find perfection in life. Love is the highest precept of consciousness. When we have finished with this world it will be Love alone that survives... and we are Love...individually and together… One. .
CB cannot be a priest. She is a priestess. Contemplative Prayer is not mentioned is the New Testament. Ultimately it comes to the actualization that we are already one with God in centering prayer, according to Thomas Keating. Jesus is but incidental to the journey. All religions are on the journey.
I loved the sentence: "view the body as a sacred temple of perception, not just something that has to be kept healthy to live a little longer." Such unexpected wisdom. :)
Cynthia is a POWERHOUSE. She will save Christianity. Renate and Cynthia compliment and work so lovely together-NO EGO ,in particular. BRAVO!!!!! You will learn A LOT
Thank you so much Renata for inviting Cynthia - she is a tour de force in the world of spirituality and I love the clarity she brings to understanding the difference between the mind and the heart. I also wanted to tell her although she probably knows!!! That the Sufi path encompasses the spirit and prophecy of Jesus - the Sufi way is indeed the way of the universal heart.
She is.. so amazing. Truly grateful to have found a modern female mystic like Cynthia Bourgeault. She speaks beautifully about the terror, vastness, beauty, and suffering of existence.
Wow what a beautiful expression of the truth that is in all she has the language to speak all ‘this’
Cynthia is speaking things that help my journey along and I thank God for her and the hard work she has done to make these insights so possible to hear and receive.
I love Renate she’s so calming with her sweetness. 😘
What a woman. Wonderful.
What a beautiful description of Quaker practise - content is “downloaded from the Cosmos and created in the hearts of the listeners.”
Renate is such a natural interviewer!! And this is one of the best conversations I’ve seen with Cynthia... what a great teacher!!
Instablaster
"Stop. Be" "Restful presence in the larger field of now." There is a mantra. Thank you for posting. The stillness, listening to the body and operating from the heart space, all incredibly important, this is where the work takes place I think. Not an easy journey but essential to freedom and living in compassion I sense. Blessings to everyone who has or is listening to this.
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Once again, thank you both for such a wonderful interview, so grateful!
Wow great solid down to earth interview and speaks to the heart ❤ thank you Cynthia, thank you Renate
17:47 ... conscious inner work. Yes. Another wonderful interview.
The whole section on "God is love" is just so wonderful.
somewhere around 38 minutes
Unleashing power through countering the human nature
I love how she talks about solitude.
Very nice and deep. Unconditional love that embraces suffering, obedience as freedom, sinking the mind in the heart, solitude...
Beautiful. To spend this time with both Cynthia and Renate is Grace in action. Thank you.
So much confirmation of unity and growing awareness ❤️🙏
This was really lovely and the more I watch conscious TV the more I seem to enjoy it. Thank you.
Bountiful thanks to you both for this precious time of such quality words on contemplation, mindfulness, abiding in the inner self, and so on. My attention was with you all the time! Not only I took notes as I was listening to you both, but definitely I will come back to listen to it again and again. I stayed present, I can grasp the essence and the thread of what is being said, but I’m sure that a good second or third listening will bring even more realization from my part. I will search for her books and learn more from her. 🙏🏻💐💞
Thank you. Deeply connected, Gratitude!
Sooo beautiful! It touches me so deeply! Thank you!
St Paul has been a recurring "sign post", so to speak, in my experience of the liminal "ancient sense" ...
Prayer without words...
So privileged to hear this. I have read a couple of her books but this was much better.
Beautiful ... x
You are doing great work Cynthia
Cynthia is fascinatingly wise!! Wow!!!
Thank you for speaking so directly.
Always great to see you and Ian, Frau McNay!
I am in a Pisca Pelion and when I look around in our small church where we are seated in a semi circle, you can see maybe one of every five or six people is a swear or kind of has a pattern of movement while saying the crates and singing etc. I find I remember much more when I’m moving somehow. It feels natural to move while you were worshiping. I don’t know why most churches sit you down and talk at you for an hour. I don’t think I could do it.
Beautiful
Thank you
Thank you ladies!
You're wonderful!
Very interesting.
Sacred Body of Perception!) Thank you!
Beautiful interview/experience, I wasn't uninterested even for one minute!
I'm smitten by Cynthia
My fear of the usher was greater than my fear of eternal damnation...this other intensity. The Way Maker giving the Way
Amazing ❤️
Seems the best way to 'practice spirituality' is by not blaming anything/one for a n y t h i n g . Fear-based competitiveness only causes for one to behave outrageously contrary to the very philosophy they claim to embrace.As long as people see humans to be proprietarily afflicted with inefficiency (Ego etc), they will continue to suffer their asses off.
We are instructed to test the spirits.
Cynthia Bourgeault quotes from this video: “I first touched in a very simple and direct way what you might call the mystical field of love that surrounds us and binds our hearts together and is the real presence of God.”
“The path of Christianity that I'd formerly only known as doctrine and dogma shoved down my throat began to come alive in that same way it had as a child as the experience of love and beauty offered to the infinite.”
“There was just that ancient sense of familiarity once again that this dimension that had been missing all my life that I hadn't found … was there.”
“There was a deep sense of invitation to a path-it was really an initiation.”
“I've worked closely with many of the religious traditions, and I have a great belief that like colors of the rainbow they all belong together, and it requires every one of them to show the full spectrum of divine love.”
While I hold down the corner in Christianity, it really is a universal work. Each of the traditions participate in it in their own way to reveal what divine love looks like in created form.”
“Try, wherever you are, to be conscious and to be grateful. See what needs to be done in the moment, and to do it in such a way that you're moving in a direction of greater compassion, greater love, and greater understanding.”
“I don't have any sort of special notion of my importance or of being in some sort of consecrated path-that's too inflated terminology. Every human being is consecrated just by the fact of being born.”
“We have our life to live, and we either live it awake and consciously or we snooze through it. And, if we live it awake and consciously, we touch other human beings who are trying that same way.”
“I began to notice, to my horror, that no matter how much I preach the scripture at people, no matter how much you offered up the Eucharist, people remained people-gossipy, nasty, confrontational, divisive, always tending to splinter into small groups and to act out of their hidden agendas. And, I realized, ‘Dear God, there's nothing we've got here that's actually getting people to change.’”
“Things always fall into your lap when you say you're searching.”
“Life hangs together by some deeper coherence and compassion, and our theologies, and our doctrines, and our dogmas, and our principles try and take that and put it in mental form, but the mental form never touches that sense that something holds together … These are all kinds of things that are absolutely real, but they make no sense on the level of the mind alone.”
“This era is about embodiment … We're in the body for a good reason, and the body is our profound vessel of truth and spiritual exploration.”
“The world calls us to embodiment with every breath. We just have to learn to attune to it again and to value the body as a sacred temple of perception.”
“One of the really powerful insights that the Christian tradition brings to the whole spiritual playing table of transformation is that these higher states of consciousness-these states that we call nondual, or unitive, or contemplative-aren't just attained by the mind alone. They're attained by bringing the mind into the heart.”
“Kenosis is the word in Greek which Saint Paul used to depict putting on the mind of Christ. It basically is pretty close to what the Buddhists mean by non-clinging-doesn't hang on, doesn't insist, doesn't assert, doesn't grab, doesn't brace, doesn't defend.”
“When you open your heart to the world, what you can guarantee is that your heart is going to be broken-and to hear the pain of the world and to hold the pain of the world.”
“Religion is not a philosophy. God is not a first cause. All that level is just explanation; meaning is something different.”
“At the obvious level, ‘freedom’ is what you'd call freedom from the false self.”
“Most of us think we're free and yet we're not free at all because we're under the absolute compulsion of agendas, addictions, and aversions that have been programmed into us from early life and sometimes from the womb.”
“As A.H. Almaas said so famously, ‘Freedom to be your ego is not freedom’ because that's slavery.”
“Freedom begins when you can stabilize in yourself this thing that some of the Eastern traditions helpfully call ‘witnessing presence.’”
“As you finally become free to follow what you might call the ‘homing beacon’ of your own inner calling, you realize that it's only in complete obedience that freedom lies … ‘Obedience’ comes from Latin, meaning ‘to listen deeply.’ As we listen deeply to the fundamental ‘tuning fork’ of our being-which is given to us not by ourself and is never about self-realization because the self melts as that realization comes closer-you find the only freedom is to be your own cell in the vast mystical body of God. But, you have to get free of the false self to see that.”
“We often equate ‘going into silence’ to find profound states of being, and this will come around, but the first thing that silence does is it ruthlessly exposes the evasions. The first evasion is simply our own restlessness … And then you begin to discover the evasion of time … You begin to see that so much of what you thought you were about is only being cued to that evasion you've already set in place.”
“What solitude is about is becoming more restful in embodiment.”
“Centering prayer is a wonderful and simple form of meditation in the Christian tradition.”
“Centering prayer is a non-clinging meditation practice. It really works with the simple idea of release, release, release-moving our mind from a state of being attached to an object to a state of letting go.”
“In centering prayer, your intention is to let go of every thought. A thought is anything that brings your attention to a focal point-whether it's an idea, or an emotion, or an itch on your nose. If you become aware your attention is attached to it, you simply let it go. To help with that, you choose a simple, short word or phrase-one or two syllables like ‘God’ or ‘peace’ or ‘let go’-to help remind you to sweep it away. Whenever you begin to be aware that you're engaged with thinking, just let it go … Every time you let go of a thought-even if another comes back-you're practicing this deep motion of non-clinging, letting go, consenting, surrendering.”
.
.
To soar upon the winds of eternity as
One with the ultimate radiant clear light of
Divinity Sublime…
and then to plunge into the
sublunary existence...
this is to know paradise lost.
And once having been brought to this knowledge
there is no turning back
(even though we may often stumble through the shadows)
for in the midst of this great darkness came/Is
the Light, the only means by which we may once again
soar upon the winds of eternity in harmony
with and as a part of that Person Divine.
This, then, is
Hope.
We need only believe in that which we have already seen
through the eyes of hope, acting upon this vision
as much as is in us to do so, trusting that
“God” (Source?) will, is and has brought us to that perfect fruition
in this world. In Spirit we have already attained to that Spirit Eternal.
This, then, is
Faith.
And while we yet seem to dwell in this world of darkness,
experiencing in faith that, by the Will of “God”,
we have already received that promise
of the fulfillment of Spirit (albeit yet in immaturity),
we are by the very nature of that Spirit
driven to both illuminate and inflame
the souls of our fellow humankind.
By this we know the fulfillment of the promise
and in turn spread the Fire of the Spirit.
In truth there is but one Realm, held within that One Spirit,
for the fulfillment of that Spirit
in all of it's various parts (though in truth it is all ONE).
This, then, is
Love.
.
It is in Love that we find perfection in life.
Love is the highest precept of consciousness.
When we have finished with this world it will be
Love alone that survives...
and we are Love...individually and together…
One.
.
Followed her practice style almost completely,very few women teachers into non sexist narrative,spirituality should be beyond sexual identity
SHIVA'S THIRD EYE REVEALS THE TRUTH
I sometimes question some of the awake people interviewed on Conscious TV.
Cynthia Bourgeault is not one of them. She is the Real McCoy.
34:50, 37:20 38:55
CB cannot be a priest. She is a priestess. Contemplative Prayer is not mentioned is the New Testament. Ultimately it comes to the actualization that we are already one with God in centering prayer, according to Thomas Keating. Jesus is but incidental to the journey. All religions are on the journey.
Wow. So happy, so joyfull... not
Ok. For certain Satanic.
David, are you playing the witch-hunting troll? Breath in and out, it will be ok. It's not all about you and your opinions.