If you haven't noticed Saweetie getting a pass based solely on her personality and looks. The industry is focusing on relatability and personality rather than the quality of the music.
People can't separate the person from the art. He's a likable, cool ass guy. His music is empty and bland and has no personality. Decent technical flow and nothing else.
@@unknwngamer1 Jack has actual rap skills, this is coming from someone who thinks both of his albums are 5/10s at best. Thing is jack doesn't have album skills, so far he can't make an interesting album for the life of him. That's just me.
Y’all need to realize that while nothing is awful, all the elements, from writing to lyricism to production, are devoid of ideas. There’s nothing distinct here. That’s what an album needs.
I would rather have an album that is awful if the artist is still pushing some kind of limits. Harlow just pushed the “generic asf” button with this album
the most annoying thing about harlow is that he spends ALLL his interviews talking about 'how we gotta bring lyrical rap back/how he's upping his pen game' - then he drops the most sterile plug-n-play album ever - he legit sounds JUST like every half-assed college rapper i went to school with...
He literally used the same themes for every single song in the album. " I'll do anything to see you smile" my one stand out hit. Everything else is derivative. What a shame
As a Jack listener from 2019 before the whole What’s Poppin thing, it’s clear to see he’s already sold his style to the mainstream. While that may not be a bad thing, it can make the music boring and unoriginal as hell. He used to flow like butter on some songs and utilize his voice really well, but now it’s just half-assed verses and average beats with A-list celebrity features not doing anything.
@@brnsde539 truly sad what happened to Migos. Had the world at their feet, but chose to make mediocre half-asses songs and over-saturate their albums with filler.
Jack Harlow is a better celebrity than he is a musician and that's all that really needs to be said. He's seen Drake's blueprint and is running with it. He knows he can get by making mediocre music, because his personality and public persona is what's going to carry him.
people overreacting in both extremes when it comes to Jack Harlow so much right now. He's neither the next coming of Drake, nor is he the worst rapper of all time or had the worst album in years. People get caught in the hype in both ways, the reality is that he is mid , nothing more nothing less. But still i can enjoy his music
considering i dont care for drake much or empty platidude driven "RAP". That people actually buy into...bc were talking "PEOPLE" that wouldnt have listened to rap in the 80s/90s mind you...yet HERE WE ARE. SAME ppl still not bumping 80s/90s rap....yet are "hip-hop" fans...and huge lovers of the made for consumption EMPTY PLATITUDE driven hip-hop. Drake has ppl writing his songs; and some of the worlds best producers on the majority of his tracks. SO even if the lyrics lack actual substance the beat matches perfectly with the fuccboi vibes. Just think about how many date-rapes and bastards were brought upon thanks to drake...and now jack can carry that torch. U think ppl that like jack harlow bump, blade, or suicide boys XD....yet theyre all the same white kids/crowds/AF1 wearing cookie cutter humans...their parents used to crowd around and turn up to madonna/hair metal...nothing new here. Same shit kids that dont know who their daddy is...and MOMS that dont know either XD.
Jack Harlow getting compared to Mac Miller is a whole SIN. Macʼs a straight up LEGEND status. I donʼt see Jack Harlow making music as equal as Swimming, Faces, Circles, WMWTSO ever.
I must say the community was very disrespectful comparing this man to Drake. Drake second album was Take Care and this is what he dropped. Jack may not even be lucky enough to drop an album that's better than Thank Me Later
@@joellgdi2057 I went through Thank me Later today, I’m listening like Jack does not have the ability to make fireworks and the resistance or even the versatility of a shut it down
Thing I give Jack credit for, he knows his audience. That is…ppl who don’t listen to rap like that. He is what G-Eazy always wanted to be. But in the long run, especially with his personality, he don’t even have to give much effort. Idk how much longer he’ll be relevant due to the fact.
G Eazy gave me a “cool guy at the club but I wouldn’t wanna be around him after that” vibe. I feel like that’s why he fell off eventually. Jack is like a dope guy you’d actually want to hang out with. Music wise however, he NEEDS to create some sort of substance in his work. We get it, you fuckin all day everyday. So is every other rapper.
G-eazy was suppose to be that 50 style rapper that bring back greaser theme back this in the rap game. He have both somewhat meh and some good songs and I'm a G-Eazy fan.
Why the focus on Jack tho??😂 His flow/voice on beats is smooth as butter. lyrics are laidback, nothing to intricate but still has solid lines. There is SO much trash out there and you mfs shine a extra spotlight on Jack for some reason😂 and he's fuckin decent he's not even bad lol
I agree. G Eazy went super pop and it didn’t work out for him. He lost everything that made him unique and just became another generic white rapper. Meanwhile Jack’s music may be heading more towards generic, his personality is still the same and that’s what people gravitate towards. Not to mention apparently G can’t stay faithful in a relationship to save his life. There’s a thin line between lady’s man and sleezeball…
@@W4TSKY I just hope he goes back in that greaser style again, he can pop back if he does goes back that what made him unique and his latest album is not that bad is just Sony like always failed to promote him. The instructions with YG, Hate the way why always I miss you with Blackbear, Provided with Chris Breezy, and Faithful with Marc E Bassy are actually good singles. I think should move to Dre's Aftermath label, TDE, Kendrick PJLang agency to give him the freedom he deserve I can't stand when white boys tries to be another Drake, trapstar, or popstar just be you because your rap art and flow is telling your story and describing what type of person you are.
i think a lot of his acceptance in the hip hop world comes from the fact that he came up the old fashion way. doing free shows locally week after week, finding an audience locally first ( a lot of people my age / friends went to his shows back then), then finding gigs at real venues like music festivals, and eventually getting his radio hit. it's not as common to come up like that these days, and i think thats respected among peers as evident by the features he's getting and general reception. I'm not huge on his music either, and im from the same city, but I won't deny that the dude has been through the trenches so to speak.
I AM SO TIRED OF WATCHING WHITE PPL IMITATE US. YALL HATE US AND KILL US BUT WANT TO BE US THEN STEAL OUR CULTURE AND RESELL IT BACK TO US AND THE WORLD AS IF YOU CREATED IT - DISGUSTING.
I think it's because of the marketing and fake propaganda they put in behind him. All that hype does not show or translate on social media. It's paid for. Plant
He doesn’t sound anything like he did since 2018-2019. I know that’s not far off. However he’s dropped multiple projects since then and they’re all MID. Now he’s mimicking Drake at every turn and using his sex appeal more than making actual great music. His bars are average and he was carried by the beat for most of the songs. At this point Jack Harlow is more of a character entertaining women than a rapper.
When I saw that Jack had 52 MILLION Monthly Listeners on Spotify landing him at the 15TH most streamed artist on the platform while Drake only had 53 million, I immediately sensed a problem…
@amr3 Even before Industry Baby he had way over 35 mil Spotify monthly listeners 😭 that's more than Youngboy, Gunna, Durk, Kodak, Uzi, Lil Baby and Future ffs
@@martinelli7662 before industry baby what’s poppin was still doing crazy numbers and was a massive hit. Majority of those monthly listeners are literally only listening to what’s poppin, industry baby or first class and haven’t listened to anything else in his discog. Y’all act like monthly listeners = fans, he’s only got 6M Insta followers and when those hits die down his monthly listeners are definitely gonna drop down to the 10-15 million mark y’all are insane if you don’t think so.
Jack Harlow has more monthly listeners then Beyoncé, Adele, Mariah Carey, Snoop, Pharrell, Jay Z, Justin Timberlake, it goes to show you that a steaming platform matter at a certain point doesn’t matter
Y'all also are leaving out that Spotify has mixed playlists.... What's Poppin and as well Industry Baby is all throughout Spotify's suggested playlist.
He struck out big time. This album had the potential to take him to superstar level given all the hype and momentum he’s had up until this point. It’s going to be hard to re capture that in the future
Big Sean dropped a trash album when he was poppin in 2013 and the backlash made Him step up his skills for dark sky paradise and the future. And by then he was older than Jack Is now. Now if Jack CARES enough he could very well do that and it would be cool
@@romaretaylor9953 big sean and jack harlow don't have the same rap pedigree. not everyone who stumbles can stand back up. the industry will probably give him another shot, but i haven't seen anything from him that shows promise of coming back harder and stronger. maybe if they put a lot of money into the producers and features because i think jack harlow has peaked as an artist
@Romare Taylor that album was trash but Beware was a hit and a year later he dropped Don’t F with you; and Harlow doesn’t have a in house producer like Kanye who is going to give give him songs like All Your Fault and F with You
My theory on Jack's success is that everyone who likes him knows deep down that he's very mediocre.. but.. he carries himself like he's really good. Confidence and being white is like a Jedi mind trick to be seen as unique and talented.
I’d say I’m a Jack Harlow fan and yeah I can admit his music isn’t really saying much but I thought we were past the point in hip hop where music HAS to be lyrical or super creative to be valid. Like there are so many artists that go on making the same thing without issue, which is fine, the music is just fun to listen to. His flow isn’t anything crazy, or new, but it fits him. It’s smooth, it’s cool and his lyrics are fun, sometimes corny, but it’s never anything that ruins the song
You don't have to be lyrical to be creative. Rappers like thugger, asap rocky, or killer Mike are necessarily lyrical but thug is eccentric and charismatic, rocky is smooth and bragadocious, and more is brusque and in your face. This Harlow album is inoffensive and milquetoast. Which are some of the worst qualities to have as an authentic musician vs a product.
This trend of the mainstream music scene being mid for the better part of the last 3 years is concerning. A lot of artists are putting out below average bodies of work. And tbh, it's only going to get a lot worse. We're in the age of instant gratification. Artists would rather die than not be relevant or seen and the industry machine is too strong. The art form is slowly dying before our very eyes. Obviously there's many factors at play but this is over satiation at this porn. Everything is easily accessible and it's making the output dull. Everything is fast food now.
Maybe mainstream music, but so far 2022 is one of the BEST years of music I’ve heard. But I listen to a lot of different genres, but rap has had a great 2022 so far. Jack is just mid
This is why if I was an artist I don’t think I could sign to a label, jacks early music showed exactly the characteristics you brought up but as soon as Drama got a hold of him his music went downhill.
@@Losabias111 a lot of times artist actually lose out on potentially earnings when signing to a label, especially a major label. More likely than not the artist doesn’t own their music. Also, 360 deals are becoming more common. In a 360 the label gets a cut of EVERYTHING you do.
@@Blackmagic_874 definetly not trolling. there is alot that goes into being a white rapper, and Jack Harlow is a pretty bad example of how to do it. Especially now on his new album when he has sold out like this.
i didn’t even know he dropped. i have him bIocked on spotify cuz i wont listen to mid. i can’t stand eminem but if i had to choose then eminem over Lack Larlow
Artists like Jack Harlowe and Billie Eilish are being paraded around by the music industry at every turn and it certainly baffles me. They’re choosing artists on the pure basis of relatability to the younger audiences regardless of whether their music is of actual prolific quality or not. The music is ultimately inconsequential within the context they’re trying to create.
@@Designed1 He has charmed a lot of people, even if that doesn’t include yourself. The hate train only picked up steam from this album dropping and being atrocious.
Bruh what 💀. Jack isn't even on billie's level. I know rap fans and males like to hate on her for no reason but she's actually really talented. I don't know any young people that can "relate" to Jack, he doesn't make relatable music tbh, just typical mediocre college party rap music.
@@tnago916 Billie has a lot of her music produced and written for her. She’s a modern day industry plant and that’s blatantly obvious, along with the fact her best and most prolific work was made largely by Finneas. Just flat-out overrated. Also pretty sure the reason you relate to Billie and not Harlow at all is because you’re obviously a girl yourself. Doesn’t change the fact that a lot of younger dudes have already tried emulating Harlow the same way younger girls have with Eilish.
I really like his chill songs with nostalgic lo-fi type beats like Walk in the park, heavy hitter, and big chillin. I'd love to hear more tracks like that I wasn't a fan of the direction this album went
Yea Shawn is acting like his old songs were the same. The production was FAR better and he could use a few different flows. After That’s What they all Say his discography became trash to mid.
You should listen to OUT FRONT and Creme (Creme is a little less of the lofi beat thing but it's still pretty chill but fire) then because they're pretty chill songs and are some of my favorite Jack Harlow songs with OUT FRONT being my favorite Jack Harlow song ever
I saw Shawn's live reaction to Jack's album on twitch, my man actually broke out in tears cause of how fucking boring, and at times outright ass, the album was
Finally, SOMEONE HAS SAID IT. Jack Harlow is MEDIOCRE and people saying he's the 2nd best White rapper under Eminem is blasphemy (Mac Miller is). The industry keeps trying to force him down our throats and trying to make him the next Drake or IN thing it's annoying. His album was mediocre at best but had some skips it wasn't worth all the hype at all. And before people say I am a hater head on down to Genius and look at some of the lyrics and bars for his songs its cheesy and corny and he gets away with it
white rapper tier list is Aesop rock, El-p Mac miller, action bronson, Em and Jack Em and jack are very VERY overrated because of their earlier projects
the album was bad - but he is definitely not a bad artist... dude's mixtapes are smooth as hell. he's just stretching the bag at this point & shifting his music towards his mainstream fans.
The industry wants him to be one of the leading artists of the next generation, but he doesn’t have the artistic vision to match up. Drake, for example, had far more vision on his first couple albums. Kanye, for example . . . well, that comparison doesn’t even need explaining.
I usually agree with your takes on most things related to music, but calling Jack Harlow one of the worst rappers off all time is a terrible take imo. I don’t think the album was amazing but it was far from the most terrible album i’ve heard.
Calling him Trash and worst album of the year is a bit over the top definitely not the best album he could’ve done he played it way too safe but it’s your opinion at the end of the day
I mean to be fair, he hyped this album claiming it was going to revolutionary and game changing. So, but if we are to compare it to pimp a butterfly even on technically level it trash or atleast very lackluster.
@@jeremiahborders2959 no I agree he capped heavy but Jack is a troll so am I shocked that it wasn’t, no but to say he’s trash is a bit of a reach idk man
I have to agree with you. I didn’t have crazy expectations for this album and I think a lot of people like Shawn were already prepared to hate this album. This album is just alright imo. Has a handful of tracks I’ll go back to
@@culverp1138 exactly like ppl coming into the album saying he’s gonna be better than Eminem when he ain’t even gonna be on Mac Miller level he gonna sell 200 plus all this hype and he dropped a mid album it is what it is he’s sold out to make song for these Instagram and TikTok girls
This was so spot on, Jack harlow is my guy but his artistry hasn't got better or worse he just that guy that makes ok music & appeals to the people that just wanna heard hear some other type of music for a change I've said this about him before. He ain't a album guy he is a singles/ep type of guy.
Tbh - I can see him Sustaining this level of hype and riding it out for a long career - he’s just surface level and mid enough for people to enjoy his music - gain amnesia - and forget by the next time he drops a passable project. So they stuck in a never ending cycle of overhyping his basic music.
He’s seen the “mainstream arrived and on top blueprint/version” of Drake and basically rearranged and repackaged it for his first album for his own convenience- seemingly ignoring and devaluing the stages of the climb so there is no rich foundation for folk to connect too, like mixtape grind, meaningful co-signing features, much earned achievement- celebration stage and so on. W/o this trajectory, arriving where JH is, you end up with something that’s ultimately hollow and fast fading. And what’s crazy is Drakes SFG mixtape is probably is strongest most compelling project to date. Go figure..
I saw another woman on tiktok basically saying he's a savior for bw and I don't understand why. I guess bc he hasn't made colorist remarks or degraded bw specifically but like you said, he makes fuckboy music so it doesn't make him much diff from other rappers lol. I think maybe girls like him bc of his personality outside of music? I only liked one song by him and it was "Thru the night", using an amazing 90s sample & features Bryson Tiller.
hip hop being a white genre was low k eye opening to me, bc you’re right. i’ve gone to tons of rap concerts and festivals, and the crowd is almost always 70% white. it’s created and pioneered by black people, but white people dominate the listening aspect of it. anyone who says “you hate em cuz they’re white” couldn’t be farther from the truth as the audience is predominantly white. shawn really be changing my whole perspective damn.
I'm sure that's has nothing to do with the fact that 60% of the USA population are white and only 12% black... and It's the same in almost every country from America and Europe.
I think that primarily has to do with the demographics in America. Around 60% of it is white. Which if you consider that, it seems as though the white demographic has nearly equal representation. The other 30% I imagine is largely made up of Latinos and African Americans given that other demographics have single digit populations at best. When I think about it like that it seems like it mirrors the demographics of the country almost to a T, so I wouldn't refer to it so much as a white genre, more so an American genre.
6 out of 15 tracks were somewhat good to me. And thats the best way to put it. It was boring and not worth a second listen. The songs sounded the same, no continuity between tracks, boring hooks, the beats were mediocre, etc. He’s a more successful G-Eazy with some watered down Drake mixed in
*Shawn went from* “he’s good but calm down on the hype” to “He’s a terrible rapper” and I’m not knocking him… he’s being carried by his personality and everything but his music.. take Doja Cat for example - has a goofy likeable personality but has music that is genuinely good.
Marius Dam Christophersen - I hear that and can certainly see that viewpoint.. but to me - her music is just something you can just put on and not think too deeply about.. and it does feel like any artist with a “Goofy” personality automatically gets a “Stan Twitter” type of following nowadays - which is what I don’t like.
good example tbh and ironically enough that’s why they both have that wave right now.. it’s not that deep and other reasons jacks music is just not as good as doja but obviously not the worst either
Doja Cat is the exact same situation as Jack. Her early music was good but now it’s all just the same bland mid over and over and tbh her personality/look isn’t all that likable anymore either
Finally somebody saying it. I disagree with Shawn on a lot of stuff but this I definitely co-sign. Raps average at best. Not terrible but way too hyped imo.
he is relying too much on his physical appeal then actually his art or talent, it’s honestly sad seeing the path he’s taking but you can’t blame him in this type of industry, that is the last option he truly has.
His album confetti is his best shit ever, he blew up to such a huge level that his music changed in ways that are way more mainstream and generic sounding. He is genuinely a good artist and lyricist but are overshadowed by the generic drake type beats, overuse of samples, and influence from bigger artists. I do think he can make great music and the album wasn’t bad. The cool new thing is to hate Jack because he is essentially making music to his majority female fanbase, which is dumb asf cause then they don’t even listen before they say the shit is ‘mid’ or otherwise. Confetti was such an outlier to me, sure it wasn’t completely different from other things he put out, but it was him molding out to be an actual artist in this industry and he played around with really cool sounds which felt really personal to him. Now it just feels like talking what everybody else is talking about (like drake).
he really isnt that good lol. the reason people hate jack harlow is because he is very clearly being mass marketed by the music industry and its very obvious and annoying lol.
Dang that‘s exactly what I thought. Confetti was such a dope album. Been still only listening to this day in my whip. Jack Harlow just went absolutely downhill musically after whats poppin.
He’s a slightly cooler/more likeable G-Eazy, won’t be surprised if his career eventually fizzles out the same way. Being relatable, or at least understandable is what ultimately gives a person longevity. If the person you constantly portray is someone who’s always just too cool for school, eventually your songs start to sound the same and you lose touch with fans that eventually want to get to the know the real person behind the persona. Every rapper who’s made it has at some point has been vulnerable and talked about times in their life that were not so glamorous.
saying that this album is worse than the big day is not valid bc that album has to be the worst thing i’ve ever listened to and jacks album is far from that (even tho i still think it’s mid)
He thought he was on to something by comparing those two albums the big day is literally the worst album that came out in 2019 that album needs to be deleted from existence.
I think what y’all fail to realize is Mr. Harlow advertised himself a certain way…wanting to the best of his generation, even not wanting to be considered a sex symbol to be taken more seriously in his music, and also all these people co-signing him for something that’s supposed to, I guess be a stand out from the other rappers coming out right now. This album wasn’t bad and me personally I liked some songs, flows and definitely the production but it’s not enough to compare to the lead up of who he and everyone else is trying to convince us he is. In order to be great, act like it simple. Don’t talk it, be it. To me he has yet to prove Kanye claiming he’s at the top right now, and I don’t see how people r getting lost on other shit lmao
@@AnmlPeeweeIsHere …..🌚 maybe you just being snooty, but even if the flows are wack every rapper has a flow. Out of all of the flows on the album a good 5% them were decent enough for me to like. Good day
The issue with Jack is that once you've heard one song from him, you've heard em all. When what's popping blew up it was the first time the mainstream had heard Jack. His flow, bars, and voice all seemed somewhat unique and he had some catchy bars; not to mention the fact that women think he's attractive. The second you start listening to more of his music you realize that the flow, bars, and voice are the exact same on every other song he's ever dropped. It's just more noticeable now that hes in the mainstream.
@@tatesinclair5156 lol ur right I didn't. But that's the majority of ppl. I'm not saying that he's not talented, I like some of his music. When the beat is hitting just right his voice is smooth asf and he's got smooth bars. But u can't tell me u listened to this last album and didn't think every song sounded the exact same
I thought Jack was a mid rapper, and I was lowkey excited to hear his track when I saw it number 1 on billboard, I told myself that I knew it wasn't the one I heard on tiktok bc that was so mid it couldnt possibly be number 1. And sure enough, I listen and it is indeed the song I heard from tiktok. And I don't give Jack props on that number 1 either because he uses a song, Glamorous by Fergie, which was ALREADY a number 1 hit! I checked. If Fergie's original track peaked at number 3 on billboard I'm sure Jack's track would have done the same.
100% agree. I only finished the album because I had a hope that it got better and it did a little bit, the song with drake was pretty decent, but one decent song doesn’t make up for an album of just… nothing. This album lacks ANY ideas.
Jackman makes music for the moment.... the moment that you listen to it. It's rare to hear a song from him that you want to play more than once after it's released. It's better weeks after as the new smell is gone. And this is coming from a fan of Jack. He seems like he'd be better off sticking to mixtapes than full albums at the moment.
As someone who likes this new Jack Harlow album, I do understand the critiques and I do feel that this album isn't creative at all. I feel for Jack to continue making successful music, he needs to improve creatively. Jack has proven that he can make creative and straight up great music, so from where he goes from here is what will define his career moving forward.
Bruh how is poison wit Wayne not unique just one of a few very unique songs lol y’all blind the flow the word play the beat switch up the words itself not said before y’all hallucinating
I don't see the Jack Harlow appeal for his music and everything yet, BUT That whole rant coming from a dude, who literaly worships Future, complaining about 'womanizing' things and lyrics like that, the most toxic artist of all I would say, youire not making any valid points sir. You're just bias, and thats okay. We all have an artist that we don't fancy of, and sometimes its unexplainable, and maybe Jack Harlow is that one for you.
Facts it’s very clear that Shawn just doesn’t like Jack and he’s trying to find every possible reason to justify said dislike (tbf he kind of has too being a professional music critic) however a lot of his arguments are blown outta proportion or stretches, I honestly think it would be more respectable if he just said “I don’t like Jack Harlow, it doesn’t appeal to me” and leaving it at that instead of doing some Olympic level gymnastics.
Shawn Cee worships future?! Okay I can tell you’re new here + your one public comment. Shawn Keeps the same energy and some of y’all don’t like it when your fav gets the Ax
@@CHarr1991 he let future get away with the “I fucked my girl and made her pee pee” bar bruh. This man was declaring it album of the year before it even dropped lol
The problem is . Drama Being drama . They tried to ride out this “pop” Jack Harlow which is cool on few songs but a whole album of that ? No. People liked him on what’s poppin because he captured the flow . And sounded different and new . But what they tried to do with this album completely failed this guy . Drama tried his best to capitalize on this pop Jack Harlow but sorry y’all missed .. back to drawing board
XD he can tour with the jonas brothers, or someone like harry stiles...or fkn post malone....and still sell out th0t filled crowds...even if the songs suck theyll want to hear/see him peform them. Its the amazing part about projecting yourself as an "ARTIST" you wind up in a prison of your own existence for all to see.
It was a good, vibey album. The problem is that a lot of people had way too many expectations going into this album and never really even listened to any of his past projects. So when he didn’t reach the expectations you had of him without ever truly listening to the type of artist he is, you’re calling it horrible. On top of that, a lot of people love his personality and when a celebrity has a lovable personality, people tend to not separate the person from the music and they expect both to be on the same playing field and more times than not, that’s not how it plays out. So was it a great album? No. But to say it’s trash is a lot. Nowhere near trash, there’s some good tracks on this recordx
exactly bro. people either expected this to be the next rap masterpiece or absolute garbage before listening to it. already biased and ready to praise it or tear it up from top to bottom. either way it prevents you from just chilling out and enjoying some of it, bc it isn’t all trash by any means but it also isn’t all bangers. tbh i expected more as a fan. but just bc it isn’t like his old music doesn’t mean he’s falling off he’s just exploring his sound maybe it’s the wrong direction maybe it’s the right direction maybe it’s a learning experience and he’ll come with something new soon
I do agree that the over-hyped expectations were unrealistic, this project just simply does not put out the same power as "Loose" did. I'll admit that I don't have many artists that I've listened to before everyone knew about them, but Jack happened to be that one artist for me. I tried to put people on to Loose for a solid year. I had that album on repeat up until 2020 pretty much. Then What's Poppin' came out and shit went down hill. That being said man, this album just did not deliver. If he was in the studio for a solid 12 months, had legendary features to back him and THIS is the result? He needs to get back in the studio with 2ForwOyNE as his producer, the rest of his boys, feel their struggles, feel the city, remember his roots and that hunger, EXPERIENCE some life again and then come back. I actually hope he gets shut down a little with this album and learns from it so that he can come back cultivating a more solid sound, what we know he's capable of.
@@YungYdoc i was thinking the same thing, i hope he hears the criticism and goes hard on his next project. he’s definitely trying to capitalize on what’s got him popular right now with these pretty basic romance songs. i hope the noise pushes him back to his roots. not necessarily saying he’s gotta switch his style and move backwards, but get back to that humble and hungry energy and less of a commercialized heart throb. like we know that you “made it” but you still have lots to prove and it’s disappointing we know his potential and it still eludes him
Let's call it what it is. Ever since Mac Miller died, the industry has been looking for a white rapper to fill that void, even if the skillset are totally different. He's a void filler
Honestly I enjoyed a lot of the songs on the album. However, I do think he needed to step up a level with this album and work on a concept, which I thought this album would have based on it’s rollout and title. Unfortunately he didn’t and I was disappointed, but they are still enjoyable. He does need better lyricism though.
It's so refreshing to finally hear someone address how I've felt like Jack for the longest time! Also love the comparison to Urkel/Stefan, you're absolutely right. Besides as a woman myself, I do not understand the appeal beginf Jack. Yikes.
I've never listened to a full length jack Harlow album prior to this, and came in with an open mind. Aside from like 4 songs that are decent, cntrl alt delete the rest of the songs.
I haven't watched Shawn in probably over 4 years. I don't know him but I am proud of how much his channel has blown up. Hip Hop is a Black culture and a lot of times the only Hip-Hop channels youtube promote is white youtube channels, so it's nice someone of the culture like Shawn is blowing up
Jack is truly an artist that HAS the capability to be a good if not fairly great artist IF he put more dimension, perspective, and creativity into his lyricism, production, and overall more vision into his work. He has the exaggerated swagger, he's got the look, he's got the women and money... He's yet to find and have the creativity though. He may be a cool ass guy, he's not a great artist.
So you’re saying he lacks in every aspect of what makes a rapper great😂 That’s like saying I would be an great NBA player if I could run faster, jump higher and shoot better😂
@@naokihasegawa9243 But your not an NBA player is the difference. You can't fucking even make it to the NBA lmao. A shitty NBA player could be better with time and practice. Same goes for Jack with rap. Does he lack in categories where he should excel? Yes. But without a doubt he can still rap, with time and dedication he could get better. Your missing the point lmfao.
Tracks like Sundown, Eastern Parkway, and Hitchcock made me a fan of Jack back in 2018. His new music seems to have progressively lost that authenticity since he’s gotten more successful. But can’t hate the dude for enjoying life and success
As a Mexican guy, I don’t like Mexican rappers nor do I like anything that Eminem has put out in the last decade. All my fav rappers are black and it isn’t cuz they are black they just simply make better music.
This video and commentary was everything. This truth needed to be said. Idk why they keep playing first class on the radio. It's catchy, yes, but there's nothing long lasting about it. He's here...for now. Definitely not a drake. His eyes are beautiful though.
Honestly I’ve been a fan of Jack since 2018 Loose/ Gazebo era and I’m scared to listen because I know he’s compromised his sound… he’s put on this cute white boy persona and as long as he keeps this up , his women fanbase won’t care about his Lyrics or unoriginal sounds. Songs like Sundown, Dark Knight, and DripDrop won’t ever come back
Just because y’all like his “personality” and he’s “cool” or whatever doesn’t change the fact that he music is mediocre. But of course, gaslighting and trying to find the next great white hope is definitely playing a role here.
@@MTP622 Then perhaps you live in a bubble, though I’m sure that’s not the first time you’ve heard someone tell you that. It’s all I’ve seen on social media.
@@nasirjones9149 yeahhhhh sure I’m in a bubble. “Everywhere” you just hating clearly but aight. At least you’re a Nas fan there’s something to redeem you
People really blaming label influence for his music going downhill? Boy is a one hit wonder. Not all rappers are talented enough to have great ideas their whole career, some blow their creative load early. That's Jack. Also thank you for the "Hip Hop is no longer a black genre" argument. It's the main reason I just refuse to go see any semi well known rapper in concert: Way too many uneducated white folks in the crowd with absolutely no sense of rhythm.
I'm calling it now, Jack's new album will gets a Grammy over Kendrick's new album. I can already see it happening 😂 It'll be the Macklemore incident all over again.
He had this one bar on the last album that said, "The ones who hate me the most look just like me," and I was like that's a fair point. So I tried to get into his music and across his entire discography he's got about 3 tracks I actually enjoy. He's like if Eminem had no personality and parents who loved him.
I can't help but look at someone like jack and compare him to lil Nas X seeing as a fair amount of jack's buzz came from the industry baby feature and the comparison is not favorable as far as I'm concerned. sure lil Nas X isn't the most lyrically talented or the most technically skilled rapper, but the dude is greatful to be in the position he's in an he's doing absolutely everything he can while it lasts and that makes him really exciting. he's trying a whole bunch of musical styles, he's making the gayest music he can think of, he's pulling the most outrageous stunts he can. it's almost an insult that jack Harlow can get the buzz he gets from being a fuckboy and making lukewarm ass music and it's like "what is this bullshit" Montero is out here staging a fucking pregnancy and some white ass suburban straight dude gets to be famous because he's kind of likeable
I used to think Lil Nas X was fumbling the bag by doing outrageous shit that was alienating casual fans by making them think he's weird, but this comment made me appreciate him wayyyy more.
I just personally think the quality of music have went downhill in quality since 2010. Not just in the lyrics but the quality and production in music in general. I'm not saying to bring 80s synthensers back, I'm saying to put some serious elbow grease into the passion into producing it. Not just a simple stupid trap beat and somebody rapping with it (Not necessarily Jack Harlow). Maybe with more actual digitized instruments, not just making a song that's easy to make.
@@anthonyvasquez1259 Oh no, you're one of those people who pretend to be a fan when in reality you can't evolve with Abel and appreciate that he continues to grow sonically, artistically, etc. You literally mention synthesizers in your comment when Abel had utilized in both After Hours and Dawn FM yet now it's not good enough for you? I genuinely feel sad for people like you bc you're truly missing out!
Confetti, sweet action, and loose are all good but now his music isn’t good. It’s all mainstream and sounds the same and he just makes songs for females now. Credit to him, he’s taken the mantle and is running with it and being very successful, but the music isn’t the same. His last 2 albums aren’t 1/2 as good as sweet action
His main appeal is that he’s white and I’m not going at him being white. He didn’t ask to be white. As soon as he popped off, marketing agencies and companies and studios raced to pay for his brand unlike getting an EARTHGANG or JID. It’s the same as why Iggy Azalea popped off so quickly. Even TI mentioned that her being white and foreign was an easy sell because he signed her. He just has to be white and rap and that’s good enough for the main public which is mostly white girls. Women will invest in their interests over men especially in a persons fanbases and music. This is also why MGK will pop off when he drop his next “rap” album
The difference between Megan/Cardi and Jack is that the “ruining a generation” point is valid bc the audiences of Meg and cardi are almost solely women. Jack howrver, is not ruining a generation of young men bc the majority of his listeners are.. also women. He can’t ruin young men if they think he’s trash.
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If you haven't noticed Saweetie getting a pass based solely on her personality and looks. The industry is focusing on relatability and personality rather than the quality of the music.
@@romaretaylor9953 Saweetie has 3 solo platinum songs and one of them is triple platinum
WHO LIKES HER AYO WHO
@@romaretaylor9953 SAWEETIE drops hits all the time . My type , tap in , closer ,
And Coi
Using the Drake card without the classic music
People can't separate the person from the art. He's a likable, cool ass guy.
His music is empty and bland and has no personality. Decent technical flow and nothing else.
Unfortunately we in that era now where you just gotta look like a rapper and = success, rather than actually having rap skills.
@@unknwngamer1 u saying he can't rap💀
@@unknwngamer1 Jack has actual rap skills, this is coming from someone who thinks both of his albums are 5/10s at best. Thing is jack doesn't have album skills, so far he can't make an interesting album for the life of him. That's just me.
@@yung_dagger_d1469 can he? you can rap too then… mediocre lyrics u yourself can write in 3 minutes over an average catchy beat. rap= dying
@@beaualIoevv You're acting like Jack can't rap at all, go watch some freestyles. Anyone can instantly hear that this man is legit.
Y’all need to realize that while nothing is awful, all the elements, from writing to lyricism to production, are devoid of ideas. There’s nothing distinct here. That’s what an album needs.
I would rather have an album that is awful if the artist is still pushing some kind of limits. Harlow just pushed the “generic asf” button with this album
@@jordan12118 exacrly
disagree
@@BoxOfCurryos list a single unique idea
Disagree u don’t need to be original or even change anything at all to be good as long as it sounds good which it did
the most annoying thing about harlow is that he spends ALLL his interviews talking about 'how we gotta bring lyrical rap back/how he's upping his pen game' - then he drops the most sterile plug-n-play album ever - he legit sounds JUST like every half-assed college rapper i went to school with...
He literally used the same themes for every single song in the album. " I'll do anything to see you smile" my one stand out hit. Everything else is derivative. What a shame
Plug n play record 😂
You can thank the label for that. They hinder most new artist. He needs more creative control. Label just want radio hits not real lyrics.
@@jwil2414 What a load of BS. Excuses.
Show me where he hasn't sounded like that though lol
As a Jack listener from 2019 before the whole What’s Poppin thing, it’s clear to see he’s already sold his style to the mainstream. While that may not be a bad thing, it can make the music boring and unoriginal as hell. He used to flow like butter on some songs and utilize his voice really well, but now it’s just half-assed verses and average beats with A-list celebrity features not doing anything.
hit the nail on the head there big fella
Agree I feel like the same for migos sadly
@@brnsde539 truly sad what happened to Migos. Had the world at their feet, but chose to make mediocre half-asses songs and over-saturate their albums with filler.
like Shawn said, imo he’s style didn’t change that much when he got popular, but he’s best songs are still his older ones
adding to your list: using samples of popular songs to make mediocre songs
Jack Harlow is a better celebrity than he is a musician and that's all that really needs to be said. He's seen Drake's blueprint and is running with it. He knows he can get by making mediocre music, because his personality and public persona is what's going to carry him.
It’s a shame because earlier projects have a lot of heart and we’re unique
@@leocartwright5471 💯
Drake’s music when he was first coming out and around 2012-2015 was immaculate. Now? He’s just meh.
complete facts
Thank you someone who gets it lol
The Urkel/Stefan comparison was masterful.
Lack Larlow = mid
Exactly he’s trying to skip the early drake phase but the early drake phase is what made us fuck with drake
Wait. 🤣 I can see it lol 😂
@@beaualIoevv Lack Larlow 💀 I’m using that
Lack Larlow 💀
people overreacting in both extremes when it comes to Jack Harlow so much right now. He's neither the next coming of Drake, nor is he the worst rapper of all time or had the worst album in years. People get caught in the hype in both ways, the reality is that he is mid , nothing more nothing less. But still i can enjoy his music
Facts.
Exactly he’s meh to me with a couple somewhat catchy songs lol
considering i dont care for drake much or empty platidude driven "RAP". That people actually buy into...bc were talking "PEOPLE" that wouldnt have listened to rap in the 80s/90s mind you...yet HERE WE ARE. SAME ppl still not bumping 80s/90s rap....yet are "hip-hop" fans...and huge lovers of the made for consumption EMPTY PLATITUDE driven hip-hop. Drake has ppl writing his songs; and some of the worlds best producers on the majority of his tracks. SO even if the lyrics lack actual substance the beat matches perfectly with the fuccboi vibes. Just think about how many date-rapes and bastards were brought upon thanks to drake...and now jack can carry that torch. U think ppl that like jack harlow bump, blade, or suicide boys XD....yet theyre all the same white kids/crowds/AF1 wearing cookie cutter humans...their parents used to crowd around and turn up to madonna/hair metal...nothing new here. Same shit kids that dont know who their daddy is...and MOMS that dont know either XD.
Jack Harlow getting compared to Mac Miller is a whole SIN. Macʼs a straight up LEGEND status. I donʼt see Jack Harlow making music as equal as Swimming, Faces, Circles, WMWTSO ever.
He did it all without a Drake feature!
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Facts!
@@dabs.47 That part.
Just because Mac Miller died means he's a legend
I must say the community was very disrespectful comparing this man to Drake. Drake second album was Take Care and this is what he dropped. Jack may not even be lucky enough to drop an album that's better than Thank Me Later
Thats what im sayin!!! there is LEVELS to this. Drake at the same age was far better lyricly ,vocally and perfomance-wise
@@joellgdi2057 I went through Thank me Later today, I’m listening like Jack does not have the ability to make fireworks and the resistance or even the versatility of a shut it down
@@romaretaylor9953 stop it.
@@romaretaylor9953 bro thank me later has over , fireworks, find your love , fancy and many more in case u forgot😂
@@joellgdi2057 your right idk what I was thinking. I like some of jacks music but he’s not drake and never will be
Thing I give Jack credit for, he knows his audience. That is…ppl who don’t listen to rap like that. He is what G-Eazy always wanted to be. But in the long run, especially with his personality, he don’t even have to give much effort. Idk how much longer he’ll be relevant due to the fact.
G Eazy gave me a “cool guy at the club but I wouldn’t wanna be around him after that” vibe. I feel like that’s why he fell off eventually. Jack is like a dope guy you’d actually want to hang out with. Music wise however, he NEEDS to create some sort of substance in his work. We get it, you fuckin all day everyday. So is every other rapper.
G-eazy was suppose to be that 50 style rapper that bring back greaser theme back this in the rap game. He have both somewhat meh and some good songs and I'm a G-Eazy fan.
Why the focus on Jack tho??😂 His flow/voice on beats is smooth as butter. lyrics are laidback, nothing to intricate but still has solid lines. There is SO much trash out there and you mfs shine a extra spotlight on Jack for some reason😂 and he's fuckin decent he's not even bad lol
I agree. G Eazy went super pop and it didn’t work out for him. He lost everything that made him unique and just became another generic white rapper. Meanwhile Jack’s music may be heading more towards generic, his personality is still the same and that’s what people gravitate towards. Not to mention apparently G can’t stay faithful in a relationship to save his life. There’s a thin line between lady’s man and sleezeball…
@@W4TSKY I just hope he goes back in that greaser style again, he can pop back if he does goes back that what made him unique and his latest album is not that bad is just Sony like always failed to promote him. The instructions with YG, Hate the way why always I miss you with Blackbear, Provided with Chris Breezy, and Faithful with Marc E Bassy are actually good singles. I think should move to Dre's Aftermath label, TDE, Kendrick PJLang agency to give him the freedom he deserve I can't stand when white boys tries to be another Drake, trapstar, or popstar just be you because your rap art and flow is telling your story and describing what type of person you are.
i think a lot of his acceptance in the hip hop world comes from the fact that he came up the old fashion way. doing free shows locally week after week, finding an audience locally first ( a lot of people my age / friends went to his shows back then), then finding gigs at real venues like music festivals, and eventually getting his radio hit. it's not as common to come up like that these days, and i think thats respected among peers as evident by the features he's getting and general reception. I'm not huge on his music either, and im from the same city, but I won't deny that the dude has been through the trenches so to speak.
Nah he came up because the hoards of white suburban kids love him and prop him up . No one else
I AM SO TIRED OF WATCHING WHITE PPL IMITATE US. YALL HATE US AND KILL US BUT WANT TO BE US THEN STEAL OUR CULTURE AND RESELL IT BACK TO US AND THE WORLD AS IF YOU CREATED IT - DISGUSTING.
I think it's because of the marketing and fake propaganda they put in behind him. All that hype does not show or translate on social media. It's paid for. Plant
XD "We went to his shows back then" bro its ok to say bc the crowd he attracted werent all going home with JACK that night....its ok to be honest
So crazy the amount of people genuinely saying he's above Mac Miller
Plain disrespect.
Odd comparison
I haven't heard a single person say he's above Mac Miller, they say him and Mac would mesh well together that's about it lol
who has said it? I've literally never heard anyone say that.
@ᵐᵃʳᵏ ʲᵃˢᵒⁿ this wasn’t even funny
He doesn’t sound anything like he did since 2018-2019. I know that’s not far off. However he’s dropped multiple projects since then and they’re all MID.
Now he’s mimicking Drake at every turn and using his sex appeal more than making actual great music. His bars are average and he was carried by the beat for most of the songs. At this point Jack Harlow is more of a character entertaining women than a rapper.
They all the same type of style & approach its all been mid
He was also really terrible in 18-19 though
I kinda agree. His older stuff were harder
Dude was making solid fuckin records “loose” album was fantastic, confetti was alright there was some bops but yeah these new albums meh
@@jakemilano8868 no he wasn’t. Gazebo and loose were quality
When I saw that Jack had 52 MILLION Monthly Listeners on Spotify landing him at the 15TH most streamed artist on the platform while Drake only had 53 million, I immediately sensed a problem…
@amr3 Even before Industry Baby he had way over 35 mil Spotify monthly listeners 😭 that's more than Youngboy, Gunna, Durk, Kodak, Uzi, Lil Baby and Future ffs
@@martinelli7662 before industry baby what’s poppin was still doing crazy numbers and was a massive hit. Majority of those monthly listeners are literally only listening to what’s poppin, industry baby or first class and haven’t listened to anything else in his discog. Y’all act like monthly listeners = fans, he’s only got 6M Insta followers and when those hits die down his monthly listeners are definitely gonna drop down to the 10-15 million mark y’all are insane if you don’t think so.
Jack Harlow has more monthly listeners then Beyoncé, Adele, Mariah Carey, Snoop, Pharrell, Jay Z, Justin Timberlake, it goes to show you that a steaming platform matter at a certain point doesn’t matter
@@malcolmxpanther once again because he’s had a lot of recent hits monthly listeners does not equal fans.
Y'all also are leaving out that Spotify has mixed playlists.... What's Poppin and as well Industry Baby is all throughout Spotify's suggested playlist.
Jack Harlow is a budget post Malone
They’re both trash and they don’t even remotely make the same music.
Damn budget of budget, almost free
He struck out big time. This album had the potential to take him to superstar level given all the hype and momentum he’s had up until this point. It’s going to be hard to re capture that in the future
Big Sean dropped a trash album when he was poppin in 2013 and the backlash made
Him step up his skills for dark sky paradise and the future. And by then he was older than Jack Is now. Now if Jack CARES enough he could very well do that and it would be cool
@@romaretaylor9953 big sean and jack harlow don't have the same rap pedigree. not everyone who stumbles can stand back up. the industry will probably give him another shot, but i haven't seen anything from him that shows promise of coming back harder and stronger. maybe if they put a lot of money into the producers and features because i think jack harlow has peaked as an artist
@Romare Taylor that album was trash but Beware was a hit and a year later he dropped Don’t F with you; and Harlow doesn’t have a in house producer like Kanye who is going to give give him songs like All Your Fault and F with You
man thats just not how pop stardome works, watch this album be huge anyways.
Romare Taylor that still messed up his trajectory. He could have been way bigger if he nailed his first 3 albums. Look at Kendrick’s career.
My theory on Jack's success is that everyone who likes him knows deep down that he's very mediocre.. but.. he carries himself like he's really good. Confidence and being white is like a Jedi mind trick to be seen as unique and talented.
I’d say I’m a Jack Harlow fan and yeah I can admit his music isn’t really saying much but I thought we were past the point in hip hop where music HAS to be lyrical or super creative to be valid. Like there are so many artists that go on making the same thing without issue, which is fine, the music is just fun to listen to. His flow isn’t anything crazy, or new, but it fits him. It’s smooth, it’s cool and his lyrics are fun, sometimes corny, but it’s never anything that ruins the song
@@kidcotter you’re right about the lyrical part, but creativity is more important than it’s ever been in this point of hip hop
You don't have to be lyrical to be creative. Rappers like thugger, asap rocky, or killer Mike are necessarily lyrical but thug is eccentric and charismatic, rocky is smooth and bragadocious, and more is brusque and in your face.
This Harlow album is inoffensive and milquetoast. Which are some of the worst qualities to have as an authentic musician vs a product.
Facts!
And ppl think he’s handsome🤷🏽♂️
I’d argue that Lil Dicky is more lyrically talented than Jack Harlow
lil dicky, rittz... harlow just gets by on his marketable image. he's never done anything that i found irrefutable
Ohh definitely
He is
Shit even give me yung gravy
I mean who in the mainstream actually cares about lyrics though. It’s a stupid comparison
His first mistake is idolizing and following Drake's "aRTiStRy" 😭
This trend of the mainstream music scene being mid for the better part of the last 3 years is concerning. A lot of artists are putting out below average bodies of work. And tbh, it's only going to get a lot worse. We're in the age of instant gratification. Artists would rather die than not be relevant or seen and the industry machine is too strong. The art form is slowly dying before our very eyes.
Obviously there's many factors at play but this is over satiation at this porn. Everything is easily accessible and it's making the output dull. Everything is fast food now.
3 years? Try 20.
it’s all abt marketing nowadays not the music anymore
Last 3 years? There has been fast food music since the inception of humanity and then capitalism
Maybe mainstream music, but so far 2022 is one of the BEST years of music I’ve heard. But I listen to a lot of different genres, but rap has had a great 2022 so far. Jack is just mid
@@HonkeyKongLive 2022 has been one of the best years for music in a LONG TIME
This is why if I was an artist I don’t think I could sign to a label, jacks early music showed exactly the characteristics you brought up but as soon as Drama got a hold of him his music went downhill.
At this point it’s clear as day that artist screw themselves over creatively (and sometimes even financially) by signing to a label.
exactly hes becoming a Drake clone
@@Ubertastic55 dawg
dawg money talks, thats how life works.
@@Losabias111 a lot of times artist actually lose out on potentially earnings when signing to a label, especially a major label. More likely than not the artist doesn’t own their music. Also, 360 deals are becoming more common. In a 360 the label gets a cut of EVERYTHING you do.
It’s the fact some of his fans think “you don’t like him cause he’s white” when his music just ain’t good
I agree his music isn’t good at all but Shawn has said he doesn’t like him cause he’s white
@@FranciscoC626 he's trolling. He jokingly calls himself a racist all the time.
@@Blackmagic_874 definetly not trolling. there is alot that goes into being a white rapper, and Jack Harlow is a pretty bad example of how to do it. Especially now on his new album when he has sold out like this.
i didn’t even know he dropped. i have him bIocked on spotify cuz i wont listen to mid. i can’t stand eminem but if i had to choose then eminem over Lack Larlow
Dude literally has just 3 good songs. Nail Tech, Tyler Herro and the Drake feature, which is honestly a Drake song.
Artists like Jack Harlowe and Billie Eilish are being paraded around by the music industry at every turn and it certainly baffles me. They’re choosing artists on the pure basis of relatability to the younger audiences regardless of whether their music is of actual prolific quality or not. The music is ultimately inconsequential within the context they’re trying to create.
at least you can tell why billie is relatable for many people, who tf actually finds jack harlow relatable 💀
@@Designed1 He has charmed a lot of people, even if that doesn’t include yourself. The hate train only picked up steam from this album dropping and being atrocious.
Bruh what 💀. Jack isn't even on billie's level. I know rap fans and males like to hate on her for no reason but she's actually really talented. I don't know any young people that can "relate" to Jack, he doesn't make relatable music tbh, just typical mediocre college party rap music.
idk why Billie was brought into this when there’s artists like Taylor Swift making generic sad cowgirl music…
@@tnago916 Billie has a lot of her music produced and written for her. She’s a modern day industry plant and that’s blatantly obvious, along with the fact her best and most prolific work was made largely by Finneas. Just flat-out overrated.
Also pretty sure the reason you relate to Billie and not Harlow at all is because you’re obviously a girl yourself. Doesn’t change the fact that a lot of younger dudes have already tried emulating Harlow the same way younger girls have with Eilish.
Ok but how does this affect Lebrons legacy?
explain this in nba terms
😂😂😂
Nah cuz he’s a sport player
He's 99 rated but below Jordan, Magic and Kobe.
@@tropical9913 he's above magic and kobe fytb kobe like 5-8 all time mf didn't even put Kareem.
I always said it, his personality and charisma is carrying him so much, the music is not even comparable
Shows though how much that can impact an artists career all the appearances he has online gets him hella buzz
What personality and charisma? he's just white...
@@TeddIdle34 not all white people act the same bud hope you know that
@@slick3996 That's not what I said or meant
@@TeddIdle34 well regardless your comment was pretty dumb so it’s good you deleted it (or i can’t see it for sum reason)
This is a bad case of ppl just loving and praising jack Harlow as a person/ character than him as an artist
Cough *future* cough
Honestly, i don't really like most of his music. I'm just a fan of him as a person. But I'm not lying to myself about his music lol
A reverse Michael Jackson?
Exactly bruh people can never seem to separate the artist from the art itself.
I really like his chill songs with nostalgic lo-fi type beats like Walk in the park, heavy hitter, and big chillin. I'd love to hear more tracks like that I wasn't a fan of the direction this album went
Exactly that’s the actual jack Harlow we all know this new persona he’s putting on with his music is just trash
Yea Shawn is acting like his old songs were the same. The production was FAR better and he could use a few different flows. After That’s What they all Say his discography became trash to mid.
@@Yoshsterpalooza facts he just became this industry 🌱 and it sucks
@@edriesgardezi2563 he’s not an industry plant, but his label might be influencing him to make music that caters to women.
You should listen to OUT FRONT and Creme (Creme is a little less of the lofi beat thing but it's still pretty chill but fire) then because they're pretty chill songs and are some of my favorite Jack Harlow songs with OUT FRONT being my favorite Jack Harlow song ever
I saw Shawn's live reaction to Jack's album on twitch, my man actually broke out in tears cause of how fucking boring, and at times outright ass, the album was
What's his twitch??
I was there too and when I tell you I was laughing my ass off..😂😂😂
Do you have a link?
@@dabs.47 ShawnCee
@@Blackmagic_874 thanks
Jack Fartlow
Real
true
can’t lie i didn’t expect a hard album anyways
he a tik tok rapper, mediocre lyrics you can write in 4 minutes by yourself over an average cheap beat. rap is dying bruh
@@beaualIoevv he’s not a tiktok rapper 💀💀💀 he’s been making music since like 2016
@@YoungChuy2398 were talking about the audience his music is targeting. We aren’t saying he rose from Tik tok
@@YoungChuy2398 his audience is tiktok girls
Ong
It took you EIGHT minutes to finally accurately describe him "painfully generic and inventive." Thank you
Finally, SOMEONE HAS SAID IT.
Jack Harlow is MEDIOCRE and people saying he's the 2nd best White rapper under Eminem is blasphemy (Mac Miller is). The industry keeps trying to force him down our throats and trying to make him the next Drake or IN thing it's annoying. His album was mediocre at best but had some skips it wasn't worth all the hype at all. And before people say I am a hater head on down to Genius and look at some of the lyrics and bars for his songs its cheesy and corny and he gets away with it
Lol Mac is not even close to 2nd best rapper
@@WOODSLD80 he means white rapper i think
white rapper tier list is Aesop rock, El-p Mac miller, action bronson, Em and Jack Em and jack are very VERY overrated because of their earlier projects
@@scottfreeman5301 Action Bronson dropped some garbage the other day too.
@@Blackmagic_874 wdym, that abum was good
Shawn is taking this shit personally😭
nah he spitting
Yea sound kinda mad
deadass
the album was bad - but he is definitely not a bad artist... dude's mixtapes are smooth as hell. he's just stretching the bag at this point & shifting his music towards his mainstream fans.
I admire you for publicly admitting that your music taste is horrible.
@@TheJinjo75 if you don't know music just say that
Jack is not a project rapper. Idk how you liked any of his tapes ahaha
@@salamandress music is subjective, learn to live knowing that.
@@salamandress Who told you they think Jack is a project rapper
The industry wants him to be one of the leading artists of the next generation, but he doesn’t have the artistic vision to match up. Drake, for example, had far more vision on his first couple albums. Kanye, for example . . . well, that comparison doesn’t even need explaining.
Hes just overhyped. He makes music for the mainstream. The album is mid but the mainstream still likes it because the sound is good enough for them
Have not listened to this guys music but I watched a rap skit they did in SNL and this guys rap is so cringy I can not bear to finish.
women listen to him, more than 50% of his listeners are women, that explains it all
I usually agree with your takes on most things related to music, but calling Jack Harlow one of the worst rappers off all time is a terrible take imo. I don’t think the album was amazing but it was far from the most terrible album i’ve heard.
Literally anybody is better.. lol hes ok I guess if you like will smith from 2000
Ok, consumer
Dude is the definition of mediocrity, which might be worse than being bad
agreed
Completely agree. So many Harlow haters it seems like . This album slaps
Calling him Trash and worst album of the year is a bit over the top definitely not the best album he could’ve done he played it way too safe but it’s your opinion at the end of the day
I mean to be fair, he hyped this album claiming it was going to revolutionary and game changing. So, but if we are to compare it to pimp a butterfly even on technically level it trash or atleast very lackluster.
@@jeremiahborders2959 no I agree he capped heavy but Jack is a troll so am I shocked that it wasn’t, no but to say he’s trash is a bit of a reach idk man
Nah this was warrented, this was ass
I have to agree with you. I didn’t have crazy expectations for this album and I think a lot of people like Shawn were already prepared to hate this album. This album is just alright imo. Has a handful of tracks I’ll go back to
@@culverp1138 exactly like ppl coming into the album saying he’s gonna be better than Eminem when he ain’t even gonna be on Mac Miller level he gonna sell 200 plus all this hype and he dropped a mid album it is what it is he’s sold out to make song for these Instagram and TikTok girls
I don’t think Jack Harlow listened to rap outside of radio growing up, The rap industry is trying to chase a new age Eminem
Lowkey feels like the moment women stop finding him attractive is the moment he stops being relevant
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only bIack women love him.
Fr
This was so spot on, Jack harlow is my guy but his artistry hasn't got better or worse he just that guy that makes ok music & appeals to the people that just wanna heard hear some other type of music for a change I've said this about him before. He ain't a album guy he is a singles/ep type of guy.
Tbh - I can see him Sustaining this level of hype and riding it out for a long career - he’s just surface level and mid enough for people to enjoy his music - gain amnesia - and forget by the next time he drops a passable project. So they stuck in a never ending cycle of overhyping his basic music.
That’s fair to say
so he trash
He used to be an album guy I belive🧐
@@roninhubbard9059 nah his first project was a ep the song what's popping was on a ep
Jack Harlow is to Shawn Cee as
Lil Dicky is to Anthony Fantano as
Lil Nas X is to Lil Boosie
😂😂😂
He’s seen the “mainstream arrived and on top blueprint/version” of Drake and basically rearranged and repackaged it for his first album for his own convenience- seemingly ignoring and devaluing the stages of the climb so there is no rich foundation for folk to connect too, like mixtape grind, meaningful co-signing features, much earned achievement- celebration stage and so on. W/o this trajectory, arriving where JH is, you end up with something that’s ultimately hollow and fast fading. And what’s crazy is Drakes SFG mixtape is probably is strongest most compelling project to date. Go figure..
Comparing this man to Drake, worse than comparing Cordae to Cole 💀💀💀💀
Happy Mother’s day btw ❤️
First
Shawn is my music good?
I’d rather take an artist who makes bad music but makes it experimental or different, instead of a rapper who makes the most basic generic music ever
Fr tho
i mean thats tyler the creator in a way and generally speaking his whole appeal.
I saw another woman on tiktok basically saying he's a savior for bw and I don't understand why. I guess bc he hasn't made colorist remarks or degraded bw specifically but like you said, he makes fuckboy music so it doesn't make him much diff from other rappers lol. I think maybe girls like him bc of his personality outside of music? I only liked one song by him and it was "Thru the night", using an amazing 90s sample & features Bryson Tiller.
hip hop being a white genre was low k eye opening to me, bc you’re right. i’ve gone to tons of rap concerts and festivals, and the crowd is almost always 70% white. it’s created and pioneered by black people, but white people dominate the listening aspect of it. anyone who says “you hate em cuz they’re white” couldn’t be farther from the truth as the audience is predominantly white. shawn really be changing my whole perspective damn.
I mean white people are the main audience for almost every form of entertainment in the west. Since the vast majority is white here
I'm sure that's has nothing to do with the fact that 60% of the USA population are white and only 12% black... and It's the same in almost every country from America and Europe.
@@shadynsx exactly finally someone that isn’t completely brain dead
I think that primarily has to do with the demographics in America. Around 60% of it is white. Which if you consider that, it seems as though the white demographic has nearly equal representation. The other 30% I imagine is largely made up of Latinos and African Americans given that other demographics have single digit populations at best. When I think about it like that it seems like it mirrors the demographics of the country almost to a T, so I wouldn't refer to it so much as a white genre, more so an American genre.
A few artist made it clear that they don't like the fact that a lot of their listeners are white
6 out of 15 tracks were somewhat good to me. And thats the best way to put it. It was boring and not worth a second listen. The songs sounded the same, no continuity between tracks, boring hooks, the beats were mediocre, etc. He’s a more successful G-Eazy with some watered down Drake mixed in
*Shawn went from* “he’s good but calm down on the hype” to “He’s a terrible rapper” and I’m not knocking him… he’s being carried by his personality and everything but his music.. take Doja Cat for example - has a goofy likeable personality but has music that is genuinely good.
I thought Doja’s last album was aggressively mid and I don’t even find her personality likeable anymore
Marius Dam Christophersen - I hear that and can certainly see that viewpoint.. but to me - her music is just something you can just put on and not think too deeply about.. and it does feel like any artist with a “Goofy” personality automatically gets a “Stan Twitter” type of following nowadays - which is what I don’t like.
@@mariusdamchristophersen1453 I thought it was one of the best pop albums I’ve ever heard
good example tbh and ironically enough that’s why they both have that wave right now.. it’s not that deep and other reasons jacks music is just not as good as doja but obviously not the worst either
Doja Cat is the exact same situation as Jack. Her early music was good but now it’s all just the same bland mid over and over and tbh her personality/look isn’t all that likable anymore either
You're on the money Shawn. I never could get through a full track of his, I get through a verse and a hook and I already get the point.
that hes from money and needs an ENTIRE industry and spotlight to PULL....enough conveyed indeed
Finally somebody saying it. I disagree with Shawn on a lot of stuff but this I definitely co-sign. Raps average at best. Not terrible but way too hyped imo.
Totally agree ppl only hype him because of his likable personality rather than his actual music ability
This is the only time I’m agreeing with him.
he is relying too much on his physical appeal then actually his art or talent, it’s honestly sad seeing the path he’s taking but you can’t blame him in this type of industry, that is the last option he truly has.
His album confetti is his best shit ever, he blew up to such a huge level that his music changed in ways that are way more mainstream and generic sounding. He is genuinely a good artist and lyricist but are overshadowed by the generic drake type beats, overuse of samples, and influence from bigger artists. I do think he can make great music and the album wasn’t bad. The cool new thing is to hate Jack because he is essentially making music to his majority female fanbase, which is dumb asf cause then they don’t even listen before they say the shit is ‘mid’ or otherwise. Confetti was such an outlier to me, sure it wasn’t completely different from other things he put out, but it was him molding out to be an actual artist in this industry and he played around with really cool sounds which felt really personal to him. Now it just feels like talking what everybody else is talking about (like drake).
fr confetti is amazing
he really isnt that good lol. the reason people hate jack harlow is because he is very clearly being mass marketed by the music industry and its very obvious and annoying lol.
Dang that‘s exactly what I thought. Confetti was such a dope album. Been still only listening to this day in my whip. Jack Harlow just went absolutely downhill musically after whats poppin.
hes a half assed drake. his music is like modern family, shit you turn on in the background
Did you really just write a whole paragraph about another man? 😂🤦🏿♂️
He’s a slightly cooler/more likeable G-Eazy, won’t be surprised if his career eventually fizzles out the same way. Being relatable, or at least understandable is what ultimately gives a person longevity. If the person you constantly portray is someone who’s always just too cool for school, eventually your songs start to sound the same and you lose touch with fans that eventually want to get to the know the real person behind the persona. Every rapper who’s made it has at some point has been vulnerable and talked about times in their life that were not so glamorous.
saying that this album is worse than the big day is not valid bc that album has to be the worst thing i’ve ever listened to and jacks album is far from that (even tho i still think it’s mid)
He thought he was on to something by comparing those two albums the big day is literally the worst album that came out in 2019 that album needs to be deleted from existence.
@@DuB_2k exactly, if I just heard Harlow’s tracks shuffle I would let it play, but i’m fuckin blacklisting the big day
Big day>> mid harlow’s album. Y’all just wanted another acid rap or coloring book. Chance experimented and did well
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@@richthekidsleptonmycouch lol wtf
I think what y’all fail to realize is Mr. Harlow advertised himself a certain way…wanting to the best of his generation, even not wanting to be considered a sex symbol to be taken more seriously in his music, and also all these people co-signing him for something that’s supposed to, I guess be a stand out from the other rappers coming out right now. This album wasn’t bad and me personally I liked some songs, flows and definitely the production but it’s not enough to compare to the lead up of who he and everyone else is trying to convince us he is. In order to be great, act like it simple. Don’t talk it, be it. To me he has yet to prove Kanye claiming he’s at the top right now, and I don’t see how people r getting lost on other shit lmao
Flows? What flows? 💀
@@AnmlPeeweeIsHere …..🌚 maybe you just being snooty, but even if the flows are wack every rapper has a flow. Out of all of the flows on the album a good 5% them were decent enough for me to like. Good day
@@queendism oh lord 🤣
The issue with Jack is that once you've heard one song from him, you've heard em all. When what's popping blew up it was the first time the mainstream had heard Jack. His flow, bars, and voice all seemed somewhat unique and he had some catchy bars; not to mention the fact that women think he's attractive. The second you start listening to more of his music you realize that the flow, bars, and voice are the exact same on every other song he's ever dropped. It's just more noticeable now that hes in the mainstream.
What’s poppin doesn’t sound anything like eastern parkway. River road doesn’t sound like dark knight
Please don’t speak on things you clearly don’t understand
U obviously didn’t listen to his old mixtapes
@@tatesinclair5156 lol ur right I didn't. But that's the majority of ppl. I'm not saying that he's not talented, I like some of his music. When the beat is hitting just right his voice is smooth asf and he's got smooth bars. But u can't tell me u listened to this last album and didn't think every song sounded the exact same
@@CGGGaming Churchill downs and Dua Lipa sound nothing alike
Jack Harlow makes music for guys who wear those dangly cross earrings.
nice try but this wasn't funny
@@ihatedrums someone has a dangly cross ear ring
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I thought Jack was a mid rapper, and I was lowkey excited to hear his track when I saw it number 1 on billboard, I told myself that I knew it wasn't the one I heard on tiktok bc that was so mid it couldnt possibly be number 1. And sure enough, I listen and it is indeed the song I heard from tiktok. And I don't give Jack props on that number 1 either because he uses a song, Glamorous by Fergie, which was ALREADY a number 1 hit! I checked. If Fergie's original track peaked at number 3 on billboard I'm sure Jack's track would have done the same.
It's so trendy for Rap lovers to hate Jack Harlow. He's not that bad, he's just medicore.
That's a bit redundant.
@@ericglenn9984 Bad means bad, mediocre is average
100% agree. I only finished the album because I had a hope that it got better and it did a little bit, the song with drake was pretty decent, but one decent song doesn’t make up for an album of just… nothing. This album lacks ANY ideas.
What the fuck do you mean by IDEAS ? It’s music not an essay. You hate but you have no idea what the fuck you even hating for.
You can skip to any part of any song and it will all sound the same.
Jackman makes music for the moment.... the moment that you listen to it. It's rare to hear a song from him that you want to play more than once after it's released. It's better weeks after as the new smell is gone. And this is coming from a fan of Jack. He seems like he'd be better off sticking to mixtapes than full albums at the moment.
I added 5 songs off the album to my playlist so I have absolutely no idea what you're going on about lmao
But that's 90 percent of these weak ass rappers now hear it once and forget it
@@Your_Boy_Dimes nigga it’s his opinion
As someone who likes this new Jack Harlow album, I do understand the critiques and I do feel that this album isn't creative at all. I feel for Jack to continue making successful music, he needs to improve creatively. Jack has proven that he can make creative and straight up great music, so from where he goes from here is what will define his career moving forward.
Bruh how is poison wit Wayne not unique just one of a few very unique songs lol y’all blind the flow the word play the beat switch up the words itself not said before y’all hallucinating
Y’all still listening to this album now? I’m not and I liked a few songs on release night.
@@connor7x978 I still listen to a handful of tracks but I doubt I'll I'll relisten to it fully anytime soon
I don't see the Jack Harlow appeal for his music and everything yet, BUT
That whole rant coming from a dude, who literaly worships Future, complaining about 'womanizing' things and lyrics like that, the most toxic artist of all I would say, youire not making any valid points sir.
You're just bias, and thats okay.
We all have an artist that we don't fancy of, and sometimes its unexplainable, and maybe Jack Harlow is that one for you.
Facts it’s very clear that Shawn just doesn’t like Jack and he’s trying to find every possible reason to justify said dislike (tbf he kind of has too being a professional music critic) however a lot of his arguments are blown outta proportion or stretches, I honestly think it would be more respectable if he just said “I don’t like Jack Harlow, it doesn’t appeal to me” and leaving it at that instead of doing some Olympic level gymnastics.
Shawn Cee worships future?! Okay I can tell you’re new here + your one public comment. Shawn Keeps the same energy and some of y’all don’t like it when your fav gets the Ax
@@CHarr1991 I’d be worried if Jack Harlow was anyones favourite artist lol
@@CHarr1991 he let future get away with the “I fucked my girl and made her pee pee” bar bruh. This man was declaring it album of the year before it even dropped lol
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The problem is . Drama Being drama . They tried to ride out this “pop” Jack Harlow which is cool on few songs but a whole album of that ? No. People liked him on what’s poppin because he captured the flow . And sounded different and new . But what they tried to do with this album completely failed this guy . Drama tried his best to capitalize on this pop Jack Harlow but sorry y’all missed .. back to drawing board
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XD he can tour with the jonas brothers, or someone like harry stiles...or fkn post malone....and still sell out th0t filled crowds...even if the songs suck theyll want to hear/see him peform them. Its the amazing part about projecting yourself as an "ARTIST" you wind up in a prison of your own existence for all to see.
It was a good, vibey album. The problem is that a lot of people had way too many expectations going into this album and never really even listened to any of his past projects. So when he didn’t reach the expectations you had of him without ever truly listening to the type of artist he is, you’re calling it horrible.
On top of that, a lot of people love his personality and when a celebrity has a lovable personality, people tend to not separate the person from the music and they expect both to be on the same playing field and more times than not, that’s not how it plays out.
So was it a great album? No. But to say it’s trash is a lot. Nowhere near trash, there’s some good tracks on this recordx
exactly bro. people either expected this to be the next rap masterpiece or absolute garbage before listening to it. already biased and ready to praise it or tear it up from top to bottom.
either way it prevents you from just chilling out and enjoying some of it, bc it isn’t all trash by any means but it also isn’t all bangers. tbh i expected more as a fan. but just bc it isn’t like his old music doesn’t mean he’s falling off he’s just exploring his sound maybe it’s the wrong direction maybe it’s the right direction maybe it’s a learning experience and he’ll come with something new soon
I do agree that the over-hyped expectations were unrealistic, this project just simply does not put out the same power as "Loose" did. I'll admit that I don't have many artists that I've listened to before everyone knew about them, but Jack happened to be that one artist for me. I tried to put people on to Loose for a solid year. I had that album on repeat up until 2020 pretty much. Then What's Poppin' came out and shit went down hill.
That being said man, this album just did not deliver. If he was in the studio for a solid 12 months, had legendary features to back him and THIS is the result? He needs to get back in the studio with 2ForwOyNE as his producer, the rest of his boys, feel their struggles, feel the city, remember his roots and that hunger, EXPERIENCE some life again and then come back.
I actually hope he gets shut down a little with this album and learns from it so that he can come back cultivating a more solid sound, what we know he's capable of.
@@YungYdoc i was thinking the same thing, i hope he hears the criticism and goes hard on his next project. he’s definitely trying to capitalize on what’s got him popular right now with these pretty basic romance songs. i hope the noise pushes him back to his roots. not necessarily saying he’s gotta switch his style and move backwards, but get back to that humble and hungry energy and less of a commercialized heart throb.
like we know that you “made it” but you still have lots to prove and it’s disappointing we know his potential and it still eludes him
definitely wasn't trash, Shawn Cee just over exaggerates everything
Nah this album was hot garbage
Let's call it what it is. Ever since Mac Miller died, the industry has been looking for a white rapper to fill that void, even if the skillset are totally different. He's a void filler
His music isn’t even close to Mac’s though, quality wise and stylistically.
and the man's been very busy filling many voids, just not the one he was intended for
*Ever since Macklemore stopped being relevant
@@timelessmoments "even if the skillsets are totally different"
This is why I said
That seems really weird and disrespectful to say, boiling a whole person and their music down to filling the void of a dead person
Honestly I enjoyed a lot of the songs on the album. However, I do think he needed to step up a level with this album and work on a concept, which I thought this album would have based on it’s rollout and title. Unfortunately he didn’t and I was disappointed, but they are still enjoyable. He does need better lyricism though.
It's so refreshing to finally hear someone address how I've felt like Jack for the longest time! Also love the comparison to Urkel/Stefan, you're absolutely right. Besides as a woman myself, I do not understand the appeal beginf Jack. Yikes.
I've never listened to a full length jack Harlow album prior to this, and came in with an open mind. Aside from like 4 songs that are decent, cntrl alt delete the rest of the songs.
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People comparing Jack Harlow to Mac Miller make me sick ngl
the amount of multiple viral jack harlow album hate tweets i have seen is ridiculous 😭😭 i know jack is keeping off from that app
He getting the Roddy Ricch treatment 😭
@amr3 his bubble of diehard supporters is even smaller. he's disposable and easily replaceable
@@BethelAkinmade but Roddy actually talented and didn't deserve it
@@batmanjpeg Jack is talented too. He prolly raps better than roddy tbh
@@romaretaylor9953 this crazy.. ain't no way. Jack Harlow bars are like middle school rap battle bars
I haven't watched Shawn in probably over 4 years. I don't know him but I am proud of how much his channel has blown up. Hip Hop is a Black culture and a lot of times the only Hip-Hop channels youtube promote is white youtube channels, so it's nice someone of the culture like Shawn is blowing up
you need to zip it up. racist piece of ish
i don’t think he’s really that bad, i just think there are so many better people. Its crazy how successful yet mediocre he is.
Facts
Meritocracy is a fake concept
@@user-sg5zj2wr5o no it aint when half the dudes on soundcloud have better bars than you and make better music
@@averagejojo7019 what SoundCloud rappers do you listen to that lyrically destroy Jack I’d love to know. Maybe I know a couple of em you’d name
@@romaretaylor9953 like i said half the dudes on soundcloud
I thoroughly enjoyed his discography before “What’s Poppin”, but since he became ‘famous’… something felt off.. I can’t wrap my head around it!
Jack Harlow makes music for people that don’t know what a hook is
Jack is truly an artist that HAS the capability to be a good if not fairly great artist IF he put more dimension, perspective, and creativity into his lyricism, production, and overall more vision into his work. He has the exaggerated swagger, he's got the look, he's got the women and money... He's yet to find and have the creativity though. He may be a cool ass guy, he's not a great artist.
People really holding on to hope
calling jack harlow an artist is hilarious
So you’re saying he lacks in every aspect of what makes a rapper great😂
That’s like saying I would be an great NBA player if I could run faster, jump higher and shoot better😂
@@naokihasegawa9243 lmfao you got it, these kids are trying so hard to be hopeful. That marketing getting to their heads.
@@naokihasegawa9243 But your not an NBA player is the difference. You can't fucking even make it to the NBA lmao. A shitty NBA player could be better with time and practice. Same goes for Jack with rap. Does he lack in categories where he should excel? Yes. But without a doubt he can still rap, with time and dedication he could get better. Your missing the point lmfao.
Tracks like Sundown, Eastern Parkway, and Hitchcock made me a fan of Jack back in 2018. His new music seems to have progressively lost that authenticity since he’s gotten more successful. But can’t hate the dude for enjoying life and success
Sundown so good
Eastern Parkway is such a good song
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As a Mexican guy, I don’t like Mexican rappers nor do I like anything that Eminem has put out in the last decade. All my fav rappers are black and it isn’t cuz they are black they just simply make better music.
@domi choppa lol naw this is just a Reagan artist I like
@domi choppa naw this is just a reggae artist I like
Don’t care enough to listen to Harlow’s music, but I will say that Jack Harlow would be a good person to hang out and be friends with
His charisma caries him def
@@zacheryware9215 he doesn’t have caries unfortunately
@@beaualIoevv agree but a lot of women do love him
@@zacheryware9215 idk about that. i’ve only seen bIack women loving him…
@@beaualIoevv look at his ig comments
This video and commentary was everything. This truth needed to be said. Idk why they keep playing first class on the radio. It's catchy, yes, but there's nothing long lasting about it. He's here...for now. Definitely not a drake. His eyes are beautiful though.
Honestly I’ve been a fan of Jack since 2018 Loose/ Gazebo era and I’m scared to listen because I know he’s compromised his sound… he’s put on this cute white boy persona and as long as he keeps this up , his women fanbase won’t care about his Lyrics or unoriginal sounds. Songs like Sundown, Dark Knight, and DripDrop won’t ever come back
Bro dark night is hard. But cream, suvs, dua lipa ... Also hard. More fame more hate
Decent album, people are hating because he’s a popular artist. He makes chill rap/pop rap and that’s what we got.
Nah the album is just that shitty. Nothing to do with his popularity.
Album is far from decent, 0 originality at all.
@@marcuslee698 Can't name any other rapper besides Drake that sound like this, so pretty original to me.
yall really defending doing the least shit was mediocre
@@tropical9913 this trash album wasn’t rap….
Just because y’all like his “personality” and he’s “cool” or whatever doesn’t change the fact that he music is mediocre. But of course, gaslighting and trying to find the next great white hope is definitely playing a role here.
“Next white hope”, what does race have to do with anything
@Cary I never see anyone say this 💀💀💀. I think people are pointing that he’s white and using it against him. It has nothing to do with it
@@MTP622 Then perhaps you live in a bubble, though I’m sure that’s not the first time you’ve heard someone tell you that. It’s all I’ve seen on social media.
@@nasirjones9149 yeahhhhh sure I’m in a bubble. “Everywhere” you just hating clearly but aight. At least you’re a Nas fan there’s something to redeem you
This guy thinks whole lotta red is album of the year he don’t get an opinion on hip hop
People really blaming label influence for his music going downhill? Boy is a one hit wonder. Not all rappers are talented enough to have great ideas their whole career, some blow their creative load early. That's Jack. Also thank you for the "Hip Hop is no longer a black genre" argument. It's the main reason I just refuse to go see any semi well known rapper in concert: Way too many uneducated white folks in the crowd with absolutely no sense of rhythm.
This is a bad take, you just said “one hit wonder” … that’s statistically false
I’m taking you haven’t listen to his other music besides “what’s poppin” …
@@bossshxtonly in this context he says he’s a one hit wonder cuz he only has one good song
I'm calling it now, Jack's new album will gets a Grammy over Kendrick's new album.
I can already see it happening 😂
It'll be the Macklemore incident all over again.
That would be insane lol
Lmfaoo motherfuckers will riot
Kendrick album mid
No.
Right Hhhhhh
He had this one bar on the last album that said, "The ones who hate me the most look just like me," and I was like that's a fair point. So I tried to get into his music and across his entire discography he's got about 3 tracks I actually enjoy. He's like if Eminem had no personality and parents who loved him.
I can't help but look at someone like jack and compare him to lil Nas X seeing as a fair amount of jack's buzz came from the industry baby feature and the comparison is not favorable as far as I'm concerned. sure lil Nas X isn't the most lyrically talented or the most technically skilled rapper, but the dude is greatful to be in the position he's in an he's doing absolutely everything he can while it lasts and that makes him really exciting. he's trying a whole bunch of musical styles, he's making the gayest music he can think of, he's pulling the most outrageous stunts he can. it's almost an insult that jack Harlow can get the buzz he gets from being a fuckboy and making lukewarm ass music and it's like "what is this bullshit" Montero is out here staging a fucking pregnancy and some white ass suburban straight dude gets to be famous because he's kind of likeable
Montero was actually good lol
I used to think Lil Nas X was fumbling the bag by doing outrageous shit that was alienating casual fans by making them think he's weird, but this comment made me appreciate him wayyyy more.
Aight nigga you just hating
Lol jack harlow blew up from whats poppin wayyy before lil gay x
@@RsChrisG sure he did but he wasn't a household name back them
I just personally think the quality of music have went downhill in quality since 2010. Not just in the lyrics but the quality and production in music in general. I'm not saying to bring 80s synthensers back, I'm saying to put some serious elbow grease into the passion into producing it. Not just a simple stupid trap beat and somebody rapping with it (Not necessarily Jack Harlow). Maybe with more actual digitized instruments, not just making a song that's easy to make.
Go listen to The Weeknd, he still consistently puts out music that is truly beautiful, innovative, artistic with wonderful story lines
@@bella-sb8ei I agree. But it's just not the same level of quality still like it was back then
@@anthonyvasquez1259 Oh no, you're one of those people who pretend to be a fan when in reality you can't evolve with Abel and appreciate that he continues to grow sonically, artistically, etc. You literally mention synthesizers in your comment when Abel had utilized in both After Hours and Dawn FM yet now it's not good enough for you? I genuinely feel sad for people like you bc you're truly missing out!
@@bella-sb8ei Still listen to his music
Confetti, sweet action, and loose are all good but now his music isn’t good. It’s all mainstream and sounds the same and he just makes songs for females now. Credit to him, he’s taken the mantle and is running with it and being very successful, but the music isn’t the same. His last 2 albums aren’t 1/2 as good as sweet action
100% agree. It’s sad to see.
take me back to RIver Road, Eastern Parkway, Sundown
His main appeal is that he’s white and I’m not going at him being white. He didn’t ask to be white. As soon as he popped off, marketing agencies and companies and studios raced to pay for his brand unlike getting an EARTHGANG or JID. It’s the same as why Iggy Azalea popped off so quickly. Even TI mentioned that her being white and foreign was an easy sell because he signed her.
He just has to be white and rap and that’s good enough for the main public which is mostly white girls. Women will invest in their interests over men especially in a persons fanbases and music. This is also why MGK will pop off when he drop his next “rap” album
T.I. Wanted to fuck Iggy and I don’t blame him. I do too. That’s another reason why he signed her.
Naw MGK done fam lol.
Thank god someone finally said it. As soon as i saw the album cover i knew that shit was gonna be wack
The difference between Megan/Cardi and Jack is that the “ruining a generation” point is valid bc the audiences of Meg and cardi are almost solely women. Jack howrver, is not ruining a generation of young men bc the majority of his listeners are.. also women. He can’t ruin young men if they think he’s trash.
I hate praying on peoples downfall. I hope Jack can bounce back with good album next year and actually add something to the game
Sean has been waiting to drop this LMAO
I swear at this point Eminem is probably the one White Rapper who hits hard and he's not even having his best records this decade.
Your content and overall commentary is just so so good