I'm 15 and I have 3 springers all fully trained by myself and not once did I have to use such harsh correction on a dog that is discussing and he calls himself a professional
Hammer Prepper I watched the entire film and think if that bloke needed to do that, he isn't worth watching more of. Skinners shouldn't be sponsoring anybody that has to hurt an animal.
Dark age dog training!!! If you have to hurt a dog to train it, you are not training the dog, you are simply demonstrating that you can bully it into submission. True training is about developing a bond of trust and mutual respect, and perfectly achievable in with spaniels.You might have to put a little more thought and practice in to positive dog training, but you'll at least not wear the badge of a bully.
+Diana Attwood Grabbing him by the Scruff actually means no it probably wouldn't hurt , its how parents move there young in all sorts all sort of species, as for dragging him no that wouldn't hurt him. if he was being grabbed in another area of his body (Leg/tail) then I would agree with you or if he was dragging along concrete or something like that
+Gary Birney you reckon? so the squealing was because he was so happy and confident? Would you grab a child by the hand even and drag him anywhere if he was scared and crying? more by the ear or any quantity of skin? If I grabbed you and dragged you by say the spare flesh around the waist, that'd not hurt and be fair?
+Diana Attwood ermm I kinda understand where you are coming from but you are comparing 1 animal with another I'm sure if you grabbed and elephant by any spare skin it would be OK. If you are going to back your argument ( and it is a valid argument) you do really need to debate from a like v like.
same old fluffy/ snowflake pet trainers who try and apply there clicker/ treat training to working dogs. not a hope in hell with the temptation these dogs are put under.
We know that discipline doesn’t work on a dog, positive training tactics are the most effective. It’s not being a ‘snowflake’ know that this is an out dated training method that has no evidence to back up its effectiveness
Hi mother of Mikey ☺️ I have a 1 year old cockapoo currently and I don’t hunt or anything like that (although she has killed a few mice etc 😂) I probably don’t approve of the rough collar grabbing and yanking in this video, but in certain situations (when Maisie has been heading towards danger for example) I have pulled a couple of manoeuvres like this. I was very positive reinforcement based when training her up until about 11 months or so - when I expect her to know what’s ok and what’s not through the yes and no commands. If she does something she isn’t allowed to do then I lower my voice, step toward her quickly and point a finger at her until she lowers her head and realises that’s what she has done is a no no. Personally for me the positive reinforcement only took me so far… eventually a baby deer or better yet a rabbit comes a long and is more pleasurable to your dog than whatever you are trying to distract them with. I think the answer, at least for my dog, lies somewhere between the 2 methods discussed. I’m interested to know your thoughts
@@calvindinverno1 I’ve recently started reading a book called force free gun dog training by Jo Laurens which I highly recommend (even if you aren’t training your cockapoo to be a gun dog, I have a pug we definitely aren’t training him to be a gun dog) but she suggests the idea that yes your dog may know a command in a certain situation e.g sit in the garden with no distractions but the environment in which the dog is walked there are distractions like deer and rabbits. So we need to set them up for success in these environments by making it so the environmental reinforcers are unattainable and that the dog knows these are unattainable which will extinguish this behaviour. (typically this is done by keeping your dog on a long line so they never have the chance to chase a deer or rabbit so they eventually give up trying, the deer/ rabbit can be simulated through a flirt pole). Once this behaviour is extinguished we can create cues to replace these behaviours like the sit command to the point that everytime our dogs see a rabbit or something they automatically sit. Similar to the way when sniffer dogs at airports find a delicious smelling contraband they sit instead of eating it because they are taught impulse control and leave it. I’m currently implementing the methods with my boy when it comes to other dogs, he’s at the prepuce of extinguishing his reactivity to other dogs and coming to me to get his treat instead. My explanation is highly rudimentary and honestly jo explains it a lot better in her book. But if you are interested in looking at the force free approach (and some of the explanations behind why certain methods work/ don’t work) then it’s a great read.
So vile I thought this was a spoof at first! Compare this to the sophisticated work of force-free trainers like Jo Laurens. Skinner's needs to move out of the dark ages.
Very good. Good to get tips from professionals
Excellent film
I'm 15 and I have 3 springers all fully trained by myself and not once did I have to use such harsh correction on a dog that is discussing and he calls himself a professional
Disciple
Quite
“I’m 15” 😂
Great tips!!!!
good man thank you
the dislikes didn't actually watch the film
Hammer Prepper I watched the entire film and think if that bloke needed to do that, he isn't worth watching more of. Skinners shouldn't be sponsoring anybody that has to hurt an animal.
Pulling him by his fucking ear!! 😡😡😡. This makes me so angry. Skinners should be ashamed for sponsoring this video!!!
Dark age dog training!!! If you have to hurt a dog to train it, you are not training the dog, you are simply demonstrating that you can bully it into submission. True training is about developing a bond of trust and mutual respect, and perfectly achievable in with spaniels.You might have to put a little more thought and practice in to positive dog training, but you'll at least not wear the badge of a bully.
+Diana Attwood Did he hurt the dog, I must have missed that
+Gary Birney grabbing him and dragging him along by the scruff - would that not hurt?
+Diana Attwood Grabbing him by the Scruff actually means no it probably wouldn't hurt , its how parents move there young in all sorts all sort of species, as for dragging him no that wouldn't hurt him. if he was being grabbed in another area of his body (Leg/tail) then I would agree with you or if he was dragging along concrete or something like that
+Gary Birney you reckon? so the squealing was because he was so happy and confident? Would you grab a child by the hand even and drag him anywhere if he was scared and crying? more by the ear or any quantity of skin? If I grabbed you and dragged you by say the spare flesh around the waist, that'd not hurt and be fair?
+Diana Attwood ermm I kinda understand where you are coming from but you are comparing 1 animal with another I'm sure if you grabbed and elephant by any spare skin it would be OK. If you are going to back your argument ( and it is a valid argument) you do really need to debate from a like v like.
same old fluffy/ snowflake pet trainers who try and apply there clicker/ treat training to working dogs.
not a hope in hell with the temptation these dogs are put under.
This guy is a clown. Choking and dragging a dog is no way to train a working dog Is shameful and stupid and counterproductive.
That is harsh handling no need for that!!! Not happy with that at all. 😡
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old fashion trainer he needs train himself. Cruelty is not training.
Didn't see any
It’s not crualty, shows the dog who’s boss, and the dogs just scared not hurt
We know that discipline doesn’t work on a dog, positive training tactics are the most effective. It’s not being a ‘snowflake’ know that this is an out dated training method that has no evidence to back up its effectiveness
Hi mother of Mikey ☺️ I have a 1 year old cockapoo currently and I don’t hunt or anything like that (although she has killed a few mice etc 😂)
I probably don’t approve of the rough collar grabbing and yanking in this video, but in certain situations (when Maisie has been heading towards danger for example) I have pulled a couple of manoeuvres like this. I was very positive reinforcement based when training her up until about 11 months or so - when I expect her to know what’s ok and what’s not through the yes and no commands. If she does something she isn’t allowed to do then I lower my voice, step toward her quickly and point a finger at her until she lowers her head and realises that’s what she has done is a no no. Personally for me the positive reinforcement only took me so far… eventually a baby deer or better yet a rabbit comes a long and is more pleasurable to your dog than whatever you are trying to distract them with. I think the answer, at least for my dog, lies somewhere between the 2 methods discussed. I’m interested to know your thoughts
@@calvindinverno1 I’ve recently started reading a book called force free gun dog training by Jo Laurens which I highly recommend (even if you aren’t training your cockapoo to be a gun dog, I have a pug we definitely aren’t training him to be a gun dog) but she suggests the idea that yes your dog may know a command in a certain situation e.g sit in the garden with no distractions but the environment in which the dog is walked there are distractions like deer and rabbits. So we need to set them up for success in these environments by making it so the environmental reinforcers are unattainable and that the dog knows these are unattainable which will extinguish this behaviour. (typically this is done by keeping your dog on a long line so they never have the chance to chase a deer or rabbit so they eventually give up trying, the deer/ rabbit can be simulated through a flirt pole). Once this behaviour is extinguished we can create cues to replace these behaviours like the sit command to the point that everytime our dogs see a rabbit or something they automatically sit. Similar to the way when sniffer dogs at airports find a delicious smelling contraband they sit instead of eating it because they are taught impulse control and leave it. I’m currently implementing the methods with my boy when it comes to other dogs, he’s at the prepuce of extinguishing his reactivity to other dogs and coming to me to get his treat instead.
My explanation is highly rudimentary and honestly jo explains it a lot better in her book. But if you are interested in looking at the force free approach (and some of the explanations behind why certain methods work/ don’t work) then it’s a great read.
Totally heavy handed approach, very unnecessary!
So vile I thought this was a spoof at first! Compare this to the sophisticated work of force-free trainers like Jo Laurens. Skinner's needs to move out of the dark ages.
Mate this was 10yrs ago
First!!!!!