@@mrtonytj5000 On a big bike like this, you would be surprised how well lead acid will work for a quarter of the cost. He's using 100ah batteries tell me where you can get 100ah 48v lithium-ion battery cheap enough for a DIY sportbike like this? SLA's still have their place in EV cant write them off just yet. 100ah lithium-Ion that would cost about 3k not worth it for a DIY like this. Dealers like Zero bikes get quantity discounts us DIY'ers don't have that option. Your logic is flawed.
You can say many things without uttering a single word. Purrfect video. No blah blahs I'll do my electric bike soon or latter.. That was the kick that I needed Thanx
The point, my friend, is to show that it can be done! There are several nay sayers out there who just look at what things should be rather than looking at all the steps in between. As an engineer myself I admire the work this person put into the project to prove a point. True, it may not be the most bang for the buck but that is why it is called a hobby. Didn't mean to go on the offensive but it bugs me when people don't understand the full process of designing and engineering.
good for you djcvids. you like many others are pioneers to the free energy revolution that most people dont realize you are playing a great part in one day. cudos
Awesome! What a nice job you've done! The engine sound is off course something to get used to, totally different from a conventional engine...Now it's time for manufacturers to produce high capacity batteries to enlarge the range and speed. This is the beguining of a new age.
I have a few tips: Don't waste a perfectly working bike like your 250r but do as he did, take an old one and work on it. Also, take your time and learn to ride your actual bike first before doing this kind of work. It's always good to get some years of riding experience before starting to modify bikes ;) Nice to see some young people interested in these conversions as this is the future!! :)
Thats really neat. It not that fact that it can't got 180mph it's the fact that its all electric now. I'm sure he was just thinking outside the box and he nailed it.
First off: Very cool job on the conversion! And: I owned a 1985 Ninja 600R back in the day, and still think that era had some great styling. Kawasaki said they won't make motorcycles powered only by internal combustion engines starting in 2035. So Kawasakis will all be hybrids, or fully EV starting in 2035.
This is a cool experiment, I won't belittle you with what I would do. I often think about this and I am glad that you made one. I imagine that you have everyone under the sun trying to explain the problems. That is easy to do when you won't spend the money yourself (themselves).
I perfure electric over gas. I think its great because it's so quite, you can ride around with out disturbing the peace. There you are, speeding by, hardly making a sound, it's like magic.
@assassinsGprods, in Britain you have to put it through an MSVP test which costs roughly £80 for a motorbike and make sure it matches the criteria and if its successful they'll register it, get an MOT done and it's good to go.
the wide frame of this bike seems to make it a rather good choice for an EV conversion.. gives you a lot of space to pack batteries into while still being able to fit the fairings over it... i wonder if he did what a lot of people did and cut the fuel tank in half.. put some hinges and a latch on and use it as a storage compartment
That's awesome for 09 I'd love to see a company produce an actual conversion kit, or like Mission R to partner with someone and create something affordable.
Hey, don't get me wrong. I truly admire the design (assuming it his own) and the fact that the bike runs. I'm an engineer too, btw. I just rather try coming up with new things that actually improve on an original design if I'm gonna spend so much effort and time on something. Cheers!
I was inspired ! I just snagged a little block with flexible wands with alligator clips on them to help with my harness. it's called the SolderBuddy Moto. Go Fast! ;)
This was a great bit of engineering works and the video was great Well Done!. What will be your next project, I really think you can make this inot a great business. Good Luck for the future and dont get put of by some of the negative remarks. Once again Brilliant from the UK
since im guessing this would be most useful in urban areas, have you looked into regenerative braking? it might not be particularly difficult to implement a basic system, and it could drastically improve range.
@Starman6915 Think of it in physics terms: if you want to use a dynamo to charge the battery at say 500w, then an extra 500w load is put on the motor, which then means an extra 500w load is drawn from the battery. Therefore, at best you will only gain what you've already lost.
Why do people keep asking that question?! Of course you need a motorcycle licence to ride it, it's still a motorcycle and it's still being used on public roads. It's not a toy. It's big and heavy and probably very powerful.
TheKnightsShield some people suffer from fucktard syndrome. It's like... Ok it did have a gas motor and now it's electric powerd... Is it road legal??? Lmao 🤣! Duh! Nope it's not anymore. Of course it's road legal still. Freakin stupid people. LoL 😂!
@karabesklow ... return the enegery by making electrical machine work as generator on breaking that will increase the distance you travel in traffic conditions. Try to reduce weight by doing all you can. ( best is to turn many metalic componenets to carbonfiber parts but it costs alot ) . Keep up the good work !
1. The Mission-R has been around for two years. And by 'around', I mean it's been fully functional and available for test rides and reviews, and has even been on a race track with other bikes - and won first place. 2. Yeah, the Mission-R is ridiculously expensive... because it's just about the best electric sport bike on the market, which is why I chose it as a perfect example. There are much cheaper bikes out there, just as there were a year ago when you posted the comment.
I had one of these GPX750Rs for 6 1/2 years. I sold it ;-( then saw it for sale and bought it back ;-) for another 3 1/2 years. Great bike. I used to ride hard with guys on R1s etc and keep up (possibly something to do with the rider though!).
@UH60crewman Electric motors have been around and been developed for longer than internal combustion engines. Nicola Tesla built the first brushless motors. All AC-direct motors are always brushless. The latest innovation has been in electronic motor controllers, which use DC input and control the 3-line AC output to optimize the efficiency of the motor at various RPMs and torque outputs. There isn't that much further that you can go with electric motors any more.
@999firemonkie EV motors behave very differently and consequently, a unique type of transmission that can handle their torque without wasting as much energy has been developed for the new line of Brammo motorcycles. They actually give you slightly reduced range as it's one more power conversion step and that means necessary losses, but it does increase the top speed considerably.
actually he could double the range and make it significantly lighter by simply using NiMh batteries instead. and if he used LifePO4 batteries he could get an additional 40% range ontop of that. If he wanted even more range still he could switch to a hub motor and use the space for the motor and drive train for extra battery space (at the sacrifice of torque efficiency) and if he wanted more power he could use a 72V motor which could all be retrofitted quite easily now
If you haven't done so already, you really should refit that setup with Li-Ion batteries. You would get more range and more power. Good job though! Nice transformation!
Great Job! In the end, it looks like a regular bike. It has been over 10yrs. What happened to it. Is it in the back of the shed collecting dust or, have you upgraded the batteries ride it on a regular basis?
Someone might have asked already in the multitude of pages but what was your cost break down? Quite interested. I'm very sure I can find a very old 750 ninja or equivalent anywhere. Got friends ready to help with the technical details. Great Video.
I love crazy builds as much as the next guy, but turning a 106 horsepower, 478 pound, 150mph work of mechanical art into a 565 pound two wheel golf kart seems quite counter productive would you say? It's an awesome build and I'm really happy that you got it to working but that 42 mph top speed hurts my soul
...and people say electrics are dangerous because they don't make noise? Silly...it's all about what you're used to hearing on a daily basis. When more vehicles like this are running about, we'll all hear them!
Dude, this video is AMAZING! I have a 2001 Ninja 5R sat in my garage under a cover, this has inspired me to start this project at the end of my Afghanistan tour. One thing though, it says you only get 20 miles, is there any way to increase that to around the 100 mark like commercial bikes? Thanks for this awesome vid, John
Only twenty miles of range, eh. Lithium ion technology might allow you to increase that range and drop some weight, if it's not prohibitively expensive. Nice job on the build. Good job on fitting everything inside the stock fairings. Looks clean.
also. what's the HONEST miles per charge specs when you are easy on the throttle and brakes? 0 to 50 mph on full throttle on as flat and smooth road as possible? If your bike is even HALF the specs of the Brammo Empulse 8.0 you're doing GREAT either way man..DONT GIVE UP! KEEP striving for the top!
Cool idea though on your bike. Question is, why did you get rod of the transmission? Multiple gears would mean greater speed at lower rpm, therefore reducing power consumption rate and extending range. The lithium ion battery pack is the way to go as of right now. Weight vs power output their great! Initial cost sux. I'd think about outing a real loud radio on it. Be safe, and remember, ride like an animal to get away from the cages.
Good job, 2009 you were definitely ahead of the curve with DIY! :-)
Juc Lee 2009 was the time people made good projects, now people just make crappy mods to vehicles instead of doing some maaaaaddd conversions.
+Juc Lee I was watching and getting mad at the SLA's! Then realised it was 2009.. lol
@@mrtonytj5000 On a big bike like this, you would be surprised how well lead acid will work for a quarter of the cost. He's using 100ah batteries tell me where you can get 100ah 48v lithium-ion battery cheap enough for a DIY sportbike like this? SLA's still have their place in EV cant write them off just yet. 100ah lithium-Ion that would cost about 3k not worth it for a DIY like this. Dealers like Zero bikes get quantity discounts us DIY'ers don't have that option. Your logic is flawed.
Now you should rebuild and use modern lipo batteries and really boost the performance
You can say many things without uttering a single word.
Purrfect video. No blah blahs
I'll do my electric bike soon or latter..
That was the kick that I needed
Thanx
The point, my friend, is to show that it can be done! There are several nay sayers out there who just look at what things should be rather than looking at all the steps in between. As an engineer myself I admire the work this person put into the project to prove a point. True, it may not be the most bang for the buck but that is why it is called a hobby. Didn't mean to go on the offensive but it bugs me when people don't understand the full process of designing and engineering.
VERY slick conversion! Love how the mechanicals peek through the fairing.
Great job coming from almost a decade ago...he must riding on UFO technology by now..
Very interesting project and the best thing about it is that it actually works as we've seen in the footage. Nice work!
This is the best quick conversion vid on youtube! fantastic work.
Can't get over how quiet this sounds. Great job.
Impressively good looking with the fairings re-installed. Some expert striping and bang.
Gratulálok! Ilyen egy jó videó a végén a Specifikációkkal! Csak a Magyar nem képes ilyesmire. Örültem a videódnak! THX!
good for you djcvids. you like many others are pioneers to the free energy revolution that most people dont realize you are playing a great part in one day. cudos
Excellent proyect man. Congratulations to you from Colombia in south America
Awesome! What a nice job you've done! The engine sound is off course something to get used to, totally different from a conventional engine...Now it's time for manufacturers to produce high capacity batteries to enlarge the range and speed. This is the beguining of a new age.
that's so cool- you really got you're stuff together and you obviously know what you're doing!!
You did a great job on the bike. It looks fantastic.
This is the best conversion I've seen yet. Great job! I would like to know where to get the motor and electronics for this kind of project.
This is the best and neat conversion as of my knowledge
If you having this bike please make an another video
This is a really beautiful example of DIY engineering. Great job!
You probably played the music too!
Nice job, great project. I'm about to buy an Ultra Bee, things have come a long way...
I have a few tips:
Don't waste a perfectly working bike like your 250r but do as he did, take an old one and work on it.
Also, take your time and learn to ride your actual bike first before doing this kind of work.
It's always good to get some years of riding experience before starting to modify bikes ;)
Nice to see some young people interested in these conversions as this is the future!! :)
Very clever design stage. Using cardboard mock ups, Great idea. Great vid.
Thats really neat. It not that fact that it can't got 180mph it's the fact that its all electric now. I'm sure he was just thinking outside the box and he nailed it.
First off: Very cool job on the conversion! And: I owned a 1985 Ninja 600R back in the day, and still think that era had some great styling.
Kawasaki said they won't make motorcycles powered only by internal combustion engines starting in 2035. So Kawasakis will all be hybrids, or fully EV starting in 2035.
Now still watching in 2019
well done guys, lovely project work and the bike looks great.
Best conversion I've seen
This is a cool experiment, I won't belittle you with what I would do. I often think about this and I am glad that you made one. I imagine that you have everyone under the sun trying to explain the problems. That is easy to do when you won't spend the money yourself (themselves).
Excellent job. You are a very good builder.
I perfure electric over gas. I think its great because it's so quite, you can ride around with out disturbing the peace. There you are, speeding by, hardly making a sound, it's like magic.
Really nice done! I like the noice it makes too, it really is a ordinary mc sound about it, eventhough it's an electric motor!
Wow, 2009 electric motorbikes weren’t even close to mainstream. Great job, hope it’s still saving you petrol!
Nice work! You can hardly tell the difference to look at it!
@assassinsGprods, in Britain you have to put it through an MSVP test which costs roughly £80 for a motorbike and make sure it matches the criteria and if its successful they'll register it, get an MOT done and it's good to go.
nice bike, one of the cleanest builds I've seen. Any reason why you didn't try to put in a gearbox?
the way all motorcycles should sound haha peaceful
GREAT JOB! I hope to get some time to do a similar project. Something along the lines of the monotracer.
the wide frame of this bike seems to make it a rather good choice for an EV conversion.. gives you a lot of space to pack batteries into while still being able to fit the fairings over it... i wonder if he did what a lot of people did and cut the fuel tank in half.. put some hinges and a latch on and use it as a storage compartment
@thaboxking You're right about that, and good for you guys for being ahead of us Americans on this.
That's awesome for 09 I'd love to see a company produce an actual conversion kit, or like Mission R to partner with someone and create something affordable.
+Craig Parrish They do.. They're called Zero Electric Bikes.
Hey, don't get me wrong. I truly admire the design (assuming it his own) and the fact that the bike runs. I'm an engineer too, btw. I just rather try coming up with new things that actually improve on an original design if I'm gonna spend so much effort and time on something. Cheers!
I was inspired ! I just snagged a little block with flexible wands with alligator clips on them to help with my harness. it's called the SolderBuddy Moto. Go Fast! ;)
great work I saw a book on how to convert your bike to and electric one I think I have a winter project to compete with now
I want one now! Good video and even better job on the bike
this is great hands on learning,, more people need to get off there azzz and get in to these electric projects.
looks like a winner!! What is the max distance between charges and how fast is it???
This was a great bit of engineering works and the video was great Well Done!.
What will be your next project, I really think you can make this inot a great business. Good Luck for the future and dont get put of by some of the negative remarks.
Once again Brilliant from the UK
Wow really cool and friendly for the environment
Looking good! The green machine!
since im guessing this would be most useful in urban areas, have you looked into regenerative braking? it might not be particularly difficult to implement a basic system, and it could drastically improve range.
@Starman6915
Think of it in physics terms: if you want to use a dynamo to charge the battery at say 500w, then an extra 500w load is put on the motor, which then means an extra 500w load is drawn from the battery. Therefore, at best you will only gain what you've already lost.
I like the music - I dont know why - thanks for the video - Ive seen it about 100 times- I REALLY REALLY want to build my own also ! have a safe 4th
Why do people keep asking that question?! Of course you need a motorcycle licence to ride it, it's still a motorcycle and it's still being used on public roads. It's not a toy. It's big and heavy and probably very powerful.
TheKnightsShield some people suffer from fucktard syndrome. It's like... Ok it did have a gas motor and now it's electric powerd... Is it road legal??? Lmao 🤣! Duh! Nope it's not anymore. Of course it's road legal still. Freakin stupid people. LoL 😂!
Nice clean project, I like the layout. What is your 0-42 time? have you found the actual range on the bike?
@karabesklow
... return the enegery by making electrical machine work as generator on breaking that will increase the distance you travel in traffic conditions. Try to reduce weight by doing all you can. ( best is to turn many metalic componenets to carbonfiber parts but it costs alot ) .
Keep up the good work !
Nice job! I would buy one of those. That's just brilliant.
1. The Mission-R has been around for two years. And by 'around', I mean it's been fully functional and available for test rides and reviews, and has even been on a race track with other bikes - and won first place.
2. Yeah, the Mission-R is ridiculously expensive... because it's just about the best electric sport bike on the market, which is why I chose it as a perfect example. There are much cheaper bikes out there, just as there were a year ago when you posted the comment.
I had one of these GPX750Rs for 6 1/2 years. I sold it ;-( then saw it for sale and bought it back ;-) for another 3 1/2 years. Great bike. I used to ride hard with guys on R1s etc and keep up (possibly something to do with the rider though!).
@UH60crewman Electric motors have been around and been developed for longer than internal combustion engines. Nicola Tesla built the first brushless motors. All AC-direct motors are always brushless. The latest innovation has been in electronic motor controllers, which use DC input and control the 3-line AC output to optimize the efficiency of the motor at various RPMs and torque outputs. There isn't that much further that you can go with electric motors any more.
@999firemonkie
EV motors behave very differently and consequently, a unique type of transmission that can handle their torque without wasting as much energy has been developed for the new line of Brammo motorcycles. They actually give you slightly reduced range as it's one more power conversion step and that means necessary losses, but it does increase the top speed considerably.
hey men great bike. its got to be one of the best looking E bikes i've seen.
what range and speeds do you get on this bike?
Awesome job! What kind of range does your choice of batteries give you?
Excellent work. Very nice project.
Cool bike, nice job.
The bike looks fantastic. Just that the speed is almost decreased to a quarter of the possible. Would it go any faster at a later stage?
actually he could double the range and make it significantly lighter by simply using NiMh batteries instead. and if he used LifePO4 batteries he could get an additional 40% range ontop of that.
If he wanted even more range still he could switch to a hub motor and use the space for the motor and drive train for extra battery space (at the sacrifice of torque efficiency)
and if he wanted more power he could use a 72V motor
which could all be retrofitted quite easily now
that's really interesting. and wow man and A+ for skills !!!
greets from Thailand everbody :)
BIG and Fantastic work! congratulations! from spain.
This video deserve more views
If you haven't done so already, you really should refit that setup with Li-Ion batteries. You would get more range and more power. Good job though! Nice transformation!
Great Job! In the end, it looks like a regular bike. It has been over 10yrs. What happened to it. Is it in the back of the shed collecting dust or, have you upgraded the batteries ride it on a regular basis?
Someone might have asked already in the multitude of pages but what was your cost break down? Quite interested. I'm very sure I can find a very old 750 ninja or equivalent anywhere. Got friends ready to help with the technical details.
Great Video.
Very beautiful work. Kudos.
nicely done! looks amazing, did you buy your parts online or at an particular stores?
looks real good am thinking of building my self one soon
I love crazy builds as much as the next guy, but turning a 106 horsepower, 478 pound, 150mph work of mechanical art into a 565 pound two wheel golf kart seems quite counter productive would you say? It's an awesome build and I'm really happy that you got it to working but that 42 mph top speed hurts my soul
I love it! I have some questions though. Top speed? Range? What type of motor, etc?
...and people say electrics are dangerous because they don't make noise? Silly...it's all about what you're used to hearing on a daily basis. When more vehicles like this are running about, we'll all hear them!
Thanks for the video
you bike look great
and thanks for the specs
Dude, this video is AMAZING! I have a 2001 Ninja 5R sat in my garage under a cover, this has inspired me to start this project at the end of my Afghanistan tour.
One thing though, it says you only get 20 miles, is there any way to increase that to around the 100 mark like commercial bikes?
Thanks for this awesome vid,
John
Nice video, nice job, excellent project! I will make one for me too. Congratulations!
Only twenty miles of range, eh. Lithium ion technology might allow you to increase that range and drop some weight, if it's not prohibitively expensive. Nice job on the build. Good job on fitting everything inside the stock fairings. Looks clean.
Congratulations very good job, one day I will have an electric car, I hope.
Or better we'll all have, I hope.
Greetings from Portugal
If ninjas were rice farmers, then yes. That is, in fact, a real ninja.
Well done. Did you experiment with different gear ratios for top speed/economy? Also, what was the total cost of conversion in $$$/hrs spent?
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Wonderful! I dream to make one too, but I am worried about the rain. Is it forbidden to use in the rain?
I’ve spent an insane amount of time looking at these projects but they are just too expensive for me! Very impressive though!
What a beauty!!! Magic hands!!!
also. what's the HONEST miles per charge specs when you are easy on the throttle and brakes? 0 to 50 mph on full throttle on as flat and smooth road as possible? If your bike is even HALF the specs of the Brammo Empulse 8.0 you're doing GREAT either way man..DONT GIVE UP! KEEP striving for the top!
So cool I love this bike =)
greets from Germany
Nice work. What size sprockets did you use and were did you get them?
@tkcypruss not a bad idea. If you had the bi- carb in a surrounding cell of each battery to minimise risk.
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That's awesome man. Great job.
Thanks, you got me stoked to build my own!
Great job! You are using Optima batteries is that correct?
it's all about the design trades...size, weight, space, range, speed, and COST.
Cool idea though on your bike. Question is, why did you get rod of the transmission? Multiple gears would mean greater speed at lower rpm, therefore reducing power consumption rate and extending range. The lithium ion battery pack is the way to go as of right now. Weight vs power output their great! Initial cost sux. I'd think about outing a real loud radio on it. Be safe, and remember, ride like an animal to get away from the cages.
I'm thinking of building one myself. although I have no idea which Batterys fits the job best. Any suggestions are welcome.
beautiful bike, great work