Hip-Hop's Worst Record Deals..
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Today we discuss record labels... and the worst deals they gave to rappers
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The worst part is when artists who were robbed by labels rob artists in their labels. Perpetuating plantation poverty.
Drake is the best example sadly. He got so big that being signed three ranks low didn't matter, as he could build one more layer to the pyramid scheme
@@andreaseverin1346Partynextdoor should be a bonafide star right now but Drake used him
@@CHYLLofficial And many other artists that have worked with Drake that are nowhere near the fame they should be at, check out Majid Jordan
360 deal just means you being circled by a shark!!
- Canibus
… Better than dodging bullets trying to make it
Don't matter he signed to another label n still payed 💰
So what im learning so far is never sign with Atlantic records
Almost all the artist that sign with them regret it every time
@@chinortega3 I'm pretty sure lil pump managed to screw them over by signing a contract under age and managed to switch to cash money for 5 mil
@@NoahTempleton-zk2bc he's like one of the few that was able to do that lol frank oceans finess on Apple was pretty legendary too lol
No just dont sign a bad deal theyre are plenty off ppl on Atlantic that say they have a good deal you just gotta make sure u hire lawyers to look over the contract and make sure its a good fit for you and not just the label
@@chinortega3Frank Ocean did the biggest finesse in hip hop history 😂
Louista been Hella consistent lately. 🔥✅
Ad sense makes hella cents
Thank you🙏🏼🙏🏼 trying my best brother
Fr though!
Man drops video like his rent is due..and I'm loving it😂❤
@@louaistaThat's a fact ! Keep them coming bro!!
People will do anything other than
" Read the terms and conditions "
Yeeeh🎉
And the labels count on that. SMH
💯 facts it’s just business
Ryte
@@nocapvisualz like individual ingredients in a sandwich the terms can look good but be disgusting when combined.
atlantic acting like a dreamworks main villian
Thing is its nothing new...they have been doing for decades and STILL fools get trapped 😂
Lord farquad lol
Thats evil Devil pray on weak Yb was 17 Labels knew he didnt know business side made over $100m gave yb $3m God said my people destroy each other for lack knowledge we got go back to old days have meetings understood this when meet guy he Caucasian he millionaire in real estate he meet his team i got on zoom call shit blew my mind other stuff sports an all other stuff its distraction 💯💯Rich people created this how they stay rich School 🏫 never teach us financial literature Yb knew nothing about Masters he had no Role model to guide him everybody in life need role model biggest influence its extremely helpful Yb had street people around him low Iq just be💯Sign 22 Albums label made over $300m off all them songs ask for alot Albums to use him up like car get most out him shit should be crime no regulations in Music industry like in stock market you have Sec they are sctrict so its rules Music industry not law Yb sign Lawyer who educated on Music side he be worth $400m today Labels got all money Think brain not even develop until 25 Yb was 17 he sign deal he see $1m he rich label come back offer $5m he blown away not knowing label getting $300m in return
@@squibbelsmcjohnson I've heard like they give such deals to broke people.
@@squibbelsmcjohnson Every label does that, not just Atlantic.
>Sign to OVO
>Under Young Money
>Under Cash Money
> Under Republic Records
> Under UMG
And that's probably not even the worst example.
"you signed to a man whos signed to a man whos signed to man whos signed to THAT man"
@@RobGradyVOit’s the same thing if you sell Insurance too.
Aftermath
@@dkmma3312its only dre. But je never puttning your album out. Shady gotta be worse. You will get one verse from eminem but he not puttning you on his album but tons of dudes not from his label
Under the devil.. 👁
Label companies been screwing over artist for decades and yet til this day people don't read the contracts. Nobody don't learn from the mistakes of the past and refuse to read what they are signing smh.
Right. How many nightmare scenarios do we have to hear from artists before upcoming people realize that signing isn't the pot at the end of the rainbow that people make it seem. We have a blueprint already people just need to start following it - Master P, 21 Savage, Frank Ocean, Alchemist, Roc Marci, etc...
@@InterstellarBountyHunter521most hip hop artists are not very smart. They prey on the stupidity and ignorance of the new artists because these kids are simply not doing the groundwork that comes with the business side of things.
@@slimdiddyd True, but these young people have cell phones to go on Instagram live/tic tok but can't use it to research a good "Terms and Conditions" for a music contract on google/chrome? You can literally youtube what to look for when signing music contracts. Then again tools are as good as the user using them. And you are right ignorance is bliss.
How about we send them label owners to jail since when you can robbed anybody without consequences
@@bearofmalice Reading these contracts is like solving a puzzle without the picture. That’s what makes them a trap.
Lupe would have been Kendrick size, thats how he was in 06 and 07. Nas named him as the closest rapped to him, and Denzel Curry named him as the first rapper he bought a CD from. Shame the label forced him to have an 8 year gap between complete albums
Also I don't know how much the label forced him to sell out for Lasers but that was a big road block in his critical success - something Dot didn't have
@@andreaseverin1346 Also Lupe Fiasco Chilly was in prison during that time.The equivalent for Kendrick Lamar would be like Top going to prison.
He was the first rapper to really catch my attention when I was young.
Lupe Fiasco got screwed by his own label
@@XxMayhem88 You guys could've bought his albums to support him, I don't thin his label was the problem.
At this point Atlantic is just trolling YB! 😂😭 30+ albums and he’s still trapped like a rat.
It out did you finish it he with motown
@@talklesslistenmore5578yea he did but unfortunately bruh sighed a bad deal with Atlantic in the first place. He made a decision that would help him immediately understandably.
@@gsd.groovy561nah it was a good deal. They ain’t expect him to be that big for that long. Plus they got him outta jail. You gotta lose to win.
Ryte
@@talklesslistenmore5578MOTOWN?!? 😭
The thing about living under capitalism is that no matter what, you’re always going to face some degree of exploitation. The extent of that exploitation is based what you accept.
Any system exploits you... if you have a better system than capitalism please tell me
Honestly hearing all these streaming numbers and how many views they get only proves one thing that means absolutely nothing because look how they get very little back in pay or ownership 🤔
The music industry always signs the poor people, as they are naive and don’t understand how they could be easily exploited
The poor people make the best music. When is the last rich guy you know that genuinely is big in music rn? Every good artist especially male was poor. Even more true in hip hop
@@Nahanoo drake?
Not all the time. Rich people and kids with parents that have ties in the industry get screwed over too.
@@cali4life788 Drake is trash 🗑
@@cali4life788drake want rich bro why would he need money from young money
Nba youngboy and the cash me outside girl got the same exact deal... let that sink in
They also dated in the past 😂
@@samariathornton9110bhad bhabi 😂😂?????
As a part time music artist, it sounds like these artists share at least half the blame. Most, if not the majority, are not reading the paperwork and/or getting someone that can read it for them.
Yeah it reminds me of the Jay Z quote "y'all signing deals still /after all they stole fr/
It's not like the labels are going to budge on offering an artist a better deal anyway. If they read through the contracts and see they're being screwed, the label doesn't magically give them a great deal for catching it. They shrug and say this is the best offer that you're going to get, we'll make you famous, and you can sign it or not. New artists don't often have leverage to negotiate ownership of anything, and any artist with leverage wouldn't even need to sign to a major label anyway.
Indeed. However, I’m not gonna sign a space deal just to get in the door. Artists just need to be aware, that’s all I’m saying.
I need to get a job already
Get dat job boi🗣️🗣️🗣️
Same bro same 😓
You can do it
lol weird comment but good luck brodie
a chambear a chambear 🕺🎶
You workin!!! Kinda surprised you didn’t include the Lox, who also famously had to use guerilla tactics to get out of their contract too
I have absolutely no empathy for who sign and don't know what they are getting themself into. it has been recorded for decades how most artist regardless of genre have been getting jerked by the label, and yet people continue to sign on the doted line.
Almost like college debt...sign on that dotted you gone learn who yo daddy is 😂😂
some of them sign as kids
First some of them sign as kids, also some of them sign broke with no way to get a job and it's either that or crime for them. Same thing with college debt, if the labels/high level colleges are price gouging through an oligopoly, blaming the people who are exploited is terrible
@@andreaseverin1346they can’t sign if there’s no legal guardian present.
At the end of the day, these people are so desperate for any money that I don’t feel any type of way when their parents should know way better
Don’t have children
message to young artists!!!
you get what you negotiate!!! first person you bring into your team should be a lawyer. there should be no excuses to be naive / ignorant to this shit. build leverage then negotiate. but if u want investors to put money up without being up expect shitty terms
the thing is most young artists are dirt broke and cant even afford a lawyer
I need a part 2 with Frank Ocean's deal 😢
CJ, ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS READ THE DANG CONTRACT 😂
Louaista dropping hit after hit lately 🔥🔥🔥
What these deals are like:
Person 1: I can’t believe they get 80% and I only get 15%
Person 2: you get 15%? I only get 5%
Person 3: yall are getting paid?
At a point in time anything NBA YB put out was on FIRE. He would've been up a couple hundred M's right now if he wasn't in a slave deal smh
Exactly
Lupe one of my favourites... I knew about Nothing on You being his song originally but it never crossed my mind Airplanes was too... Damn
360 Contract is everywhere unless you go independent.
The only way to make it with these major distributors is to come to the table with leverage, which means having previous success as an independent. But most of these popular artists wouldn't have survived as an independent (primarily because 4-5 companies control distribution).
The sad part is that the artists who make it big create their own labels and exploit the next generation.
For being a young kat louaista, you make some extremely well put together content and I don’t say that often about your generation bro! Keep up the good work lil homie much respect…
Comments like these make me so happy, thank you for so much for the kind words 🥹
@@louaista don’t stop doing you bro! Lots of these content creators tend to jump on bandwagons but you seem to follow your own path and the topics you choose to do content on, make me want to engage so that’s got to speak for something! God bless you brotha!
No fr I don’t even listen to rap like that, but these videos are so solid
I am optimistic that these deals are becoming fewer as more OGs speak out and educate people on how they were grifted. Dudes like XXX who really made shrewed business decisions is the wave of the future. Yeah there will always be desperate people that get taken advantage of but more and more artists see Drakes 400m deal as still a slave deal with UMG and I would agree. They control him down to pushing lame AI and I wouldnt be surprised if it is a 360 deal and he loses some of his Nike money too UMG. Thats why hes always scamming his artists because he has to recoup from his bad deal.
Drake is sold everything to UMG. Everything from his merchandise, deals with Nike, Toronto sports franchises, music(distribution, royalties, masters), and everyone else under OVO
You can say NBA young boy has a horrible deal but a company that powerful prolly the reason he keeps getting off light on all these cases. Atlantic knows people who know people prolly greasing the judges
Nba the poster boy for these type contracts
Ma$e had had the worst deal with Bad Boy Records, Mase wanted to join G-Unit Records back in 2005, but P.Diddy asked 50 Cent 3 million to make Mase free from his Bad Boy deal, that is the reason we never get any Mase album, because he is still under contractual obligation with Diddy-Bad Boy!
With all the violence mentioned in music. If i was a label owner,i wouldn't dare mistreat an artist.
Food for thought.
Label owners need to be taught a lesson legally.
Legally😉
I would like to add the rap group, Nappy Roots, onto the list with the worst record deal too. they were unfortunately apart of Atlantic Records and their lawyers told them they weren't going to earn a damn cent from their major releases, Watermelon, Chicken & Gritz and Wooden Leather. but, they had their publishing on those songs which help them out and they fulfilled their contract, got out of it, and went independent ever since.
Artists really don’t need labels like they once did. You can literally be your own label and market your music better than they can in this modern day. F the labels 🎯
Isn't this why Lauryn Hill only dropped 1 album and Prine turned his name into a symbol...
Yes
Yes bro
You don’t even need a record deal now. It used to be the opposite
if you wanna actually be rich from your hard work, then yes you still very much need a record deal. Just look at how many independent underground rappers with hella streams are still dirt broke.
@@prinzdenax 😂
@@prinzdenaxna you don’t need that sh*t bruh all u need is the funding and advice on how to invest in promo/marketing etc
@@prinzdenaxWrong the rappers making money are independent with a distribution deal
Crazy that Kendrick didn’t headline this video. Dude low key has the worst contract in the entire record industry but never talked about 😮
His their Messiah and darling
@@Yesterdayrose2811 more like puppet 🤣
The guy who page this is will never say anything bad about Kendrick 😂😂 you can't tell he's very Kendrick bias
Can't Drop An Album Without Label Approval 😂😂 YOU'RE SIGNED TO THEM
Carl Crawford!? Mind blown, he seemed like such a chill dude. Stealing bases, stealing artists masters…
Atlantic tried getting Lupe to sign his 360 deal while he was in a hospital bed.
Say what?!?
@@Shay416 yeah I think he said on his Twitter or an interview he had to cancel shows cause he caught laryngitis bad to the point where he was in ICU. The execs came by and it was more business than checking on his well being. After he said no to the 360 deal they basically stopped all promotion of Lupe and gave "Just the way you are" & "Airplanes" to B.o.B.
LASERS & F&L 2 were released due to the Occupy Lupe movement and Anonymous threatening Atlantic Records with a leak if they didn't release it
Wow I forgot about that GUCCI GUCCI song.
The editing on your videos is really fire.
Kreayshawn was never gonna be more than a one hitter quitter
You should've included NWA's record deal with Jerry Heller.
Kreayshawn didn’t listen to anyone in her circle and when she blew up off Gucci Gucci she immediately abandoned everyone for white girl mob smh not saying she deserved it but she definitely ignored the warnings.
She absolutely deserved it. She had golden opportunities to disavow
v nasty and state on the record that "white people have no business using the N word" . Yet she dug her hole deeper and starting dissing Ross in freestyles. As if a chick in a group call "white girl mob" is equipped to mock someone else's shortcomings. Well we see how it finished up for her
She deserved it 100 %. No reasonable person could think affiliating with a group called "white girl mob" and dissing black rappers would be a sustainable path in the rap game.
And people still can’t wait to get signed.
Lol they fine with slanging dope to their neighbors to get money but they get mad when labels flip that script back on them
I dunno how people are still tricked into bad deals in the information age. Don't sign shit until you get a lawyer or atleast someone literate to comb it over, it's not that hard.
Yea but most of these guys come from struggling in the hood and these labels come up putting millions in they face thats how they trap em
Desperate people will agree to seize an opportunity.
It’s very important to read a contract
@@nn8009If you don't sign, the illuminati sabotages you. Either by death or jail through bullshit charges. People forget master p been had ties to universal.
26.645 views in 4 hours is crazy ur tha goat louaista❤❤
Success without record labels can have the same benefits I guess
A bad record deal is better than no record deal.
With the consistency and at this rate, Louista might run out of video ideas. Bro is on FIRE!!!!
Shit even my old band in 2010 turned down a deal from Atlantic. It’s been known for a while that they’re with the bullshit. My friend and producer Jeff Blue used to be an A&R agent with Atlantic and an executive with Warner music, he said they would pull hella sheisty maneuvers😂
9:49 Yo wtf?! I never knew that Lupe was supposed to have Airplanes…fuck Atlantic Records!!!!! Smfh
Louaista is a goat in this shit🫡🐐
Lots of love to Louaista for making videos consistently ❤❤❤
Meg got 40%. That's a great deal for a new artist. Hell MOST artists. She tried to make it sound worse saying "I had to pay everyone out of my 40"that's the business. Artists always paid for everything out of their percentage. Tlc only had 7% just like tlc. Now THOSE are bad deals.
UGK had 15% per bun-b.
Th motown artists had 2.7% to split
THOSE are bad deals
Loulou back at it with the next hit. ontop cuh
Recording contracts are built on the *sharecropping model*
6:16 “Unique flavor to the game”= “Culture vulture acts black therefore we should sign her”
Well put together , If youre an upcoming artists and want some good insight of how things can go from great to worst take his advice fr , theres so many ways to be succesful in music without the labels
Louista is basically Lesson In Hiphop Culture (LIHC) 😂
If you wanna know how shitty Atlantic really is, fr just look at Lupe. Everything mentioned in this video is bad enough, but when he made a hit and atlantic didnt own it, they looked at the samples, flew to the phillipines, met the artist of the track Lupe sampled, and bought all rights to that track just so that they could own Lupes music. Bro was battling with that Label for YEARS
Never. Sign. To. Atlantic.
Wow 😮 eye opening piece.
Well made🔥
Gotta imagine the amount they spend marketing studio time production/ engeers...
Then wait for returns...
If returns don't pan out to amount they spent up front looks like your in debt...
Theres so many people who flop and if record labels gave every possible star a huge deal they wouldn't be in business. Only the ones that blow up think they got screwed
Thanks for bringing awareness to these deals so that new artists can learn from these
Lou you inspire me
Slavery never ended.. It just evolved
TLC left eye put the life sentence for the L in TLC 😂she said 75 million nah somebody gone die starting with the label boss 😂
I remember KREAYSHAWN 😆 🤣 😂
With all the previous examples from even the 90s, these guys have no one to blame. Being careful when it comes to signing deals is like the biggest thing in the rap game. And you have to buy your masters back, damn near no one ever gets it back for free.
i don't listen to any of those artist..except for tlc! r.i.p. lisa!
Tyga is the weirdest worst rapper who somehow manages to be relevant every 5 years or so
BS! He's not the worst.
Definitely has some bars. He's independent so his music isn't pushed as other rappers. There's no way I'm putting rappers like Lil Durk over Tyga. But they are liked only because their music is being pushed.
lol 😂man you just can’t end these videos the way that you do lol….
Exactly what i was just thinking
Lou u gonna blow up even more if you keep posing like this
Great video. More artists need to educate themselves on this topic
Americans can even take their presidents to court but corporate executives especially in entertainment, is where they draw the line 🤔
They're weak
I've been preaching this since myspace, With the internet you can go direct to fan you really don't have to be fucking with the industry and you can still make a good career, I've heard these horror stories. I don't understand why people know this beasts chews people up and spits them out yet still climbs in the mouth for the superficial feeling that you made it
Damn youngboy really lose hundreds of millions of 💵
He talk about it in his songs but made it all back he made 100M on house arrest not too long ago
He had a certain deal he get paid a some millions every album he drop 8 projects in 2022
It suck how they do people like this
At least YB still made 100M on house arrest not too long ago
I Just Love it When it's a Cool,calm Sunday and then u click A Video and u hear"It's Your Boy Louaista"
Babe wake up hip hop news posted
Atlantic actin like a villain to these artists
13:54 I like how it says that TLC would have gotten away for it, if Diddy didn't snitch on them, which is ironic on many levels.
What these artists also don't realize is that they have to stay relevant long enough to recoup their advances and to start gaining more revenue. These labels are not going to allow an artist to make millions and bounce out the game while the label pays for the engineering, tours, and marketing.
TLC some gangsta mamas, 😂.
Why is it that these people can write their own lyrics, but can't read a contract???
because they are made to be as unreadable as possible. Just like you "sign" or "agree" to EULA. Just a whole bunch of legal speak that makes no little to no sense unless you're a lawyer
@eternalpunishment3922 Sigining an agreement that allows you to access a website or an app, without reading it, is completely different than signing an agreement that you THINK has your best interests in it.
Secondly, the language in EULAs isn't written in Venutian. It's English. These rappers just don't want to admit they let other people handle things that THEY should have been handling.
That’s wild because Babyface (very famous singer in the 90s for those curious) is one of the major founders of LaFace records.
the best deals is both parties are uncomfortable not just one - kevin o'leary, i think that is a good piece of advice
Louaista been cooking lately. He's #1 right now doing 3 a week. But yeah Atlantic is the DEVIL. Look how they did Lupe.
Signing with Atlantic is a death sentence. Anything with Lyor Cohen attached to it is a scam.
I think you should have touched Lupe a bit more like how the hacker group anonymous threatened Atlantic to hack their systems if they don't drop Lasers.
As long as I have been a fan of music I have never known an artist that has a good business relationship with the labels they sign to.
Youve been grindin lately, love your videos bro❤❤
That boy Louista don't miss🙌🏽🙌🏽🐐
So the lesson is don’t sign to Atlantatic, bet 😂
Great Videos man 👍🙏. You trying hard to make quality videos and you suceed.
I don't feel bad for these people. If they were stupid enough not to read the contract, then they shouldn't act surprised when their contract is predatory.
Not sure who this kid is but seems interesting to have a listen
2 million for FIVE records is crazy!!!! Thats 5 entire projects, so much work.
Consistent upload schedule go crazy