Free speech ain't "free from consequences". The consequences can be unfair and unjust, but the consequences won't necessarily be fully remedied. You went marching, you got unjustly attacked, you lost an eye, you can seek justice after, but you lost your eye forever. But hey, others lost their lives willingly defending this and that. some others lost their lives unwillingly just being collateral damage. An eye is cheap. HAD to emphasize this: your rights is not innate. your rights derives from other people believing and upholding your rights.
@@moxinghbian "an eye for an eye eventually will lead to eye transplantation, implantation, and finally full replacement" If you're rich, the poor will just stay blind
“It’s not unpatriotic to denounce an injustice committed on our behalf, perhaps it’s the most patriotic thing we can do.” ― E.A. Bucchianeri, Brushstrokes of a Gadfly
@@littlehalfpint Never forget that Ashkenazi are not Jews but Gentiles, as God says on Genesis 11 KJV. Go Back to Europe! The Palestinian Holocaust started in 1948 by European Mongols.
Attacking young people who disagree with the government is unacceptable. The future belongs to them. Thank you for supporting freedom of speech in our country.
I have long held a deep admiration for Fareed Zakaria, particularly because, like him, I was granted admission to a university when I first arrived in New York City in the 1980s. It was a moment of great pride for me to be in America and eventually become a citizen, and I made a promise to myself to fully embrace the country and its ideals of freedom. However, upon reflection, I must admit that I am now disappointed. Since leaving the US in 1999 to explore other parts of the world, I have found joy in immersing myself in different cultures and being a part of them. While I do miss America, I cannot align myself with the current state of affairs there.
Mind Begs the Question: - If Jews protest march - Against an Apartheid,Occupation - If a Govt,Media label it Hate March - Govt,Media is Anti-Semitic,no?
Everyone should criticize Israel. They bribe our politicians and steal BILLIONS of our tax dollars. Never forget the U.S.S. Liberty and the Dancing Israelis. Stop support of Israel.
He said that in a society where only land holding men could vote. And honestly, looking at how most of Gen Z is forming their opinions on this through Tiktok, I think we need to go back to that.
@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat It IS an interesting question: Even in a democratic society, should EVERY citizen have the right to vote? What about those who pay no taxes?
Well he did have to ignore some very inconvenient facts about those campus groups, like the fact they did fundraise for Hamas controlled charities, disguised as humanitarian aid for the Palestinian people, but still, they did in fact financially support a terrorist organization with the explicit goal of exterminating the Jewish population world wide...
Ya what would you ever do without your constant left wing media to spew lies at you? For once your hearing what everyone else "not a libtard" has been saying for years and through other independent news outlets for ages now, and you think it's some BIG revelation. Maybe if you didn't tune out every opposing opinion, you'd pick up a thing or two. All you guys know are Trump Bad, War Good, Hate Speech Bad, WOKE good, everything I don't want to hear is Racist, or some ISM.
Exactly. Sure, speech is free but the consequences are not. For example, if a prospective employer deems it appropriate to do a background check and finds out that all your Facebook and Twitter posts don't align with their values, they're also free to rescind a job offer and not hire you as what happened to some of these students. That's within their right to do so too. The problem is a lot of people, especially young people, equate free speech to freedom from consequence. Nope. Not the same!
freedom of speech with possible severe consequences is in essence NO Freedom of speech. Especially when public entities, such as various levels of government, and public funded organizations, starts to require people to adhere to certain view points or face the consequences. That’s a direct contradiction of the constitution.
Armita is alive in we and I!!! آرمیتا در من و ما زنده است!!! Long live Israel and Iran!زنده باد داد ایران و اسراییل! Down with Islamic Republic of Iran مرگ بر جمهوری اسهالی! free Palestine from savage ratsفلسطین را از موشهای ددمنش پاک کنید 🌷👍 The front line of fight with decadent Islamic Republic is on borders of Israel ❤ خط مقدم جبهه نبرد با رژیم منحوس جمهوری اسلامی در مرزهای اسراییل قرار دارد ❤️
Did you miss the part about campuses then? Not many old people or billionaires there, yet those speeches got cancelled. We won't reach sensible conclusions if we just ignore examples which contradict our argument, it's a skewed viewpoint
Bravo ! Thank you for your important observations. In an educated society where people think rationally and have confidence in their institutions, there is nothing to be feared from free speech. The censorship we’re seeing now is the result of ignorance and fear, and I’m sad to see the « land of the free and the home of the brave » let one of its basic rights be menaced.
@Geofflepper3207. No if he could Ron would jail anyone for saying something he doesn't like, white or black. Ron DeSanctis only believes in free speech if he agrees with that speech. Full stop. Most of the free speech America first crowd leaders have been outed. At the drop of a hat they turned to free speech into cancel culture. And turned America first into Israel first.
You must be joking!! It's been years since I watch CNN and just came across this show. CNN is bias on EVERYTHING. First Post news coverage is what I consider great news coverage.
For Netanyahu and co. It's not about the hostages, its about revenge for losing face. In March 2019, Netanyahu told his Likud colleagues: “Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas … This is part of our strategy - to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.” The master plan - divide and conquer.
Absolutely not what natanyaho do is erasing gaza to do his big project with Saudi Arabia a new canal it go through gaza land so it needed to have this land as israliy territory .....just for mony this why saudi princes silent about Israeli Israeli masecer ingaza
Geez, if only they could have seen through their master plan by not invading them in 1948 during the Arab Israeli war, or during the 6-day war of 1967, or the Yom Kippur war of 73, or the first or second intifada, they've been offered a full nation state by Israel, and by the UN at different points in history. They've said no every time for a reason.
More than Freedom of Speech. I think people are complaining about the Hypocrisy of institutions like Harvard. If you come down on speech that is offensive for you on topics like Gender, pronouns etc, then you are not really a supporter of Free speech. If you don't have regard for the principle of free speech, then you better cut down on speech that is offensive for all parties including Jews - especially calls of Genocide & the like.
@@user-bb1vq5if7m You’ve made an elementary, subjective point Matt. You must be a democrat who can’t afford their student loans that can’t get a real job in even Biden’s “healthy economy”. 😂😂😂
Do you think the west is in decline? The rot seems to have started in America. But that doesn’t explain the popularity of conspiracy theories. Intelligent, well-educated people with a strong belief in something seem ready to believe any CT that suits their narrative.
Hannah Arendt actually addressed this in 1951 in Totalitarianism, a certain group stole a people's home and land and put them out in the desert and if anything was said they screamed anti-Semitism. The bully plays victim.
I've experienced this myself. Even the Israeli ambassador wanted to cancel the UN secretary general merely for suggesting there was a history to the conflict? It's an absolute joke.
@@user-ek3ez8xi6cdemocrats are too busy giving all of the American people’s money to Israel that’s why . How you enjoying the money ? The blood money ? Feel good don’t you ! I bet you sleep well at night too .
Who determines who a terrorist is ? A terrorist by American government definition.? We know how that ended with America accusing Iraq of 911 when they had nothing to do with it
America calls every person who defends his occupied land because it goes against its interest. And america has always created or supported terrorism either financially and verbally like Iraq and Afghanistan and Palestine and it's not acceptable.
It's a shame that the world has come to this. The right to protest isn't the right to harass, intimidate, damage or deny other's their rights including their right to counter-protest. Institutions, businesses and government departments don't have opinions, people do. When activists deny these bodies their "right to operate" unless they toe their line they destroy their ability to act impartially and fairly to maximise their benefit to society and that harms all of us.
Defending innocent Palestine civilians IS NOT antisemitism. Arabs also semitic, Jews are semitic, how can they be antisemitic? It's against Israel state, NOT the religion.
A timely and reminding report on the origin of free speech right as a constitutional right, somewhat nostalgia in tone, but highlights the importance of rewakening civil awareness of what free speech really intends to protect; This gets me back to reflect on the old song “ people talking without speaking, hearing without listening” in its post 21st century form.
As someone who emotionally can't help to be very much on Israel's side with the recent developments - I still couldn't agree more with what you are saying here. There is no alternative to free speech for arriving at a nuanced, non partisan view of a situation as complex as this. Anyone I have listened to from either side has ommitted important and highly relevant facts. When emotions run high, it becomes impossible for us to perceive reality.
A very interesting and thought-provoking piece. I can see the value in Universities remaining officially neutral. However, that is often in significant tension with the need to make students of all walks of life feel welcome. This issue is deeper than I gave it credit for; thankyou, Fareed, for making me think more deeply about this.
Yup. Universities cannot be anything but neutral.. universities are supposed to be the temple of free-speech. It's idiotic on their behalf to support or condemn anything. Students and politicians may agree or disagree with one cause or the other but universities themselves siding with one speech is totally unacceptable.
@@ululukululu450 Is it really that simple, though? What about the case of someone advocating for genocide, like Nazis? Or racial violence, like the Klan? Or perhaps if someone were arguing that LGBTQ+ students should be expelled from universities? Should the universities also remain silent in those cases? I'm not so sure, but what do you think?
@@wendylafolle Ok, fair enough. So in that case, you're saying it would be ok for Universities to take a stance on those matters that do not involve protected speech?
Really, in some schools Jewish people are being attacked, also most Ivy League schools care very little for free speech, Harvard for example scored the lowest out of more than 100 universities on its free speech by a report. Free speech in higher education has long been dead.
There are no safe places for people like me. I worked hard all of my life only to watch it all fall apart. It’s out of my control. I only hope God hears my voice through this madness and darkness I must endure
Free speech regulates and limits the way that Government can restrict its citizens right to speak (for example voice their views and opinions). It doesn’t apply to the private sector. So private universities may contractually limit their students and employees right to speak if they so wish. Many people seem to get this wrong now a days.
While there are legitimate attacks on free speech, I feel some mistake attacking freedom of speech with people just disagreeing or responding to said speech. You have a right to say what you want without worrying about being punished by the state (in most cases), but you don't have a right to be popular or liked. For example, someone is fired for saying prejudice things towards black people. The person will not go to jail, but they won't necessarily be cool with their boss.
The point isn't popularity or being "liked". The point is the University shouldn't pick and choose what speakers they ban. Let the Pro-Nazi speaker speak, and also let his theater be empty.
@@MrErizidthe OP’s point is that if anyone criticized that speaker or protested outside (which they ARE free to do) - The right would say that their freedom of speech ISN’T being respected since others don’t agree with them.
There should be freedom of speech in the form of a discussion. A speech that is not followed by a civil discussion questioning it is called preaching. Everyone should be able to come to a university campus to discuss and be challenged on their views by people equal to their stature, not just preach to a wide audience and field some questions at the end.
@@matshousetv2799 ok, perhaps. but then it resides outside of the domain of "freedom of speech". most "acts of desperation" are frowned upon at universities (indeed, in most public life)
"it has been the principal opponnent of a two state solution" Alright I support a one state solution do I still have to do my daily Hamas condemnation?
@@Aboertmann that's what our media do. You lost your entire family. You think they will interview you so you can bring awareness to what's going on in Gaza. They will spend 3/4 of the time asking you: "Do you condemn Hamas?".
Mr. Fareed Zakaria condemned Hamas rightly so, but not a word for the ongoing horrific and inhumane treatment of people of Gaza. This hypocrisy and double standard has opened eyes of many left leaning folks like myself. But I know at the end of everything money, power and bought media houses will normalize the suffering of people by dehumanizing them. And the show will go on.
I have to say as an American I'm saddened and embarrassed how so many of these schools have been silenced, it doesn't matter which side of the debate your on, you should be allowed to debate! Our politicians are no different, it's as if we've traded Washington, Lincoln and Grant with 3rd Stringers. This is what and where money in our politics gets us, it will set us up for failure on the international stage in the future. You want to see real politicians go at it, not concerned about money or outside influence, I encourage you all to watch video of the Irish Parliament in action. You watch and you see the passion on topics being debated, both sides, all of that is lacking in Washington because everyone there is more concerned about handouts from special interests than the voter or doing their job.
Most important "thing" is to have everyone understand the circumstances in which Israel came into being. 99% of the population has no clue - there seems to be widespread "conspiracy" to throttle / cover up any discussion on that.
Too,many people,including myself,get self absorbed in our self centered beliefs! We all need to disect the truth and the facts,from our beliefs and statements!!!
I always listen to Mr. Zakaria with great interest. I value his ability to bring a 3rd perspective to the American political scene. In this case, Mr. Zakaria has overlooked the intimidating and even violent nature of the on campus anti-Israel protests, the physical attacks on Jewish students, and the Title IX implications for equal opportunity and access to our institutions of higher education. Barring that, Mr. Zakaria thoughts make a lot of sense.
Full respect to VIVEK Ramaswamy. He is the only politician who is standing for full free speech even though he keeps getting attacked for it from left and right.
I mean to the extent a conservative is allowed on this issue, he’s been pro free speech. But he’s still been terrible on the Israel Gaza issue as a whole and sounds like any other standard neocon politician
@@thebestevertherewas What's the benefit of there being a Palestine? There are 50-60 Muslim majority countries in the world today. How have any of them benefitted mankind?
There are over 250,000 rivers in the United States that combine for a total of more than 3,500,000 miles. Which river (s) are you talking about and which sea (Ocean): Pacific/Atlantic/Arctic (Alaska)/Gulf of Mexico?. 😂
Q: in a court of law could a rapist call for self defense against his victim who tries to fight him off by all means? So how can an occupier claim self defense? When you occupy you are by default on the offensive.
Palestinians have been offered a state 7 times. It might actually be 8. The idea that somehow Israel is responsible for the utter misery in Gaza because it controls the ports, electricity, and water is laughable. There have been tens of billion poured into Gaza the last 15 years. Where's the infrastructure? Where's the office buildings and development? Where's the factories? Instead they elected a terrorist group that has stolen all the money to build hundreds of miles of terror tunnels and rockets.
@@eshbena It is worse than an occupation, it is a concentration camp. They control who gets in and who gets out. They decide what they can and can't build. No airports, dock ports allowed. No water treatment plans allowed. They control the food going in, they control the water going in. The OP's point would seem like nonsense to a person who believes their feelings are more important than facts/reality.
I condemn any words of hate or malice conveyed in any kind of way towards the Jewish people anywhere in the world, all religions can live together in peace and harmony, it is time to bring back peace for both the palestinians and the israelis, no more wars, no more pain, no more hate
It seems to me you are not from the Middle East. And if you are from the Middle East I would like to ask you a question. How tolerant are Muslim countries towards Christianity? How many Cristian churches you will find in a Muslim country? How many western values you will find to be shared in the Muslim world? You are a naive man, islam wants the whole world. It doesn’t want to live in peace with other religions. It must be one religion. Islam. Farid Zaharia is good man, however today first time in my life I feel unsafe. First time in my life I got a thought of buying a firearm. Free speech is very important. But I will not be able to protect my family with this.
Fareed, there is no debating with hardline Islamists. Their position is absolute religious certainty, which leads to silencing opposition with threats of violence. Like it or not, "freedom of speech" is not at issue here. And why, Mr. Zakaria, did you have no problem speaking of jihadis as inexcusably violent in your documentary, Terror In Mumbai, though now you would advocate for expressions of the same call to violence on college campuses? The difference wouldn't be Jews, would it?
@@briendoyle3823 You may think that's a clever remark, but consider the following. A truly devout Jew does not subscribe to the ideas of martyrdom and jihad. Devout Muslims do. Devout Jews are not the reason we have to take off our shoes at the airport. Devout Muslims are the reason.
@@HandgunSafe : Interesting because Zionist in Israel have called for the complete destruction of the lands held by Palestinians. Zionist in the Israeli Government have called Arabs and Palestinians dogs who should be wiped off the face of the earth. And please with the terrorist's bullshit. Oklahoma City wasn't done by Muslims but a White Christian. Atlanta Olympic Bombings weren't done by Muslims but a White Christian. The attack on the U.S.S. Liberty wasn't done by Muslims but Israel. WW2 which caused over 70 million deaths wasn't caused by Islam but by Christians. And who supported the Death Squads in El Salvador. The United States. Who supported the Death Squads in Colombia. The United States. Who supported the Dictator which killed their own citizens in Chile. The United States. Who routinely kills innocent civilians with Drone Strikes in Afghanistan and Iraq and Syria and Pakistan and Yemen and Libya and Niger and Nigeria and Somalia and Chad and Mali and Morocco and Ghana and the Philippines. The United States. So spare me the talking points.
A truly devout Jew Does subscribe to the ideas of enslaving others, raping women, Genocide (Amalkites remark) even the Torah contain this doctrine of mass murder of children, women & elders even animals according to Torah don't get to survive. What Israel is doing in Gaza & the politicians proving by their words& actions proves jews live by their racist genocidal doctrine and they can't hide anymore. The whole Jewish thing is based on racism (just cause you were born to this race you by default become god's chosen people and get away with even mass murder & the most heinous crimes and what's more is you also get to play the victim) @@HandgunSafe
The right to free speech is not a right to say "anything" without consequences. Especially in the surveillance society we live in. In the case of the pro-Palestinian protesters the concern is that such protests are often a thin veil covering a pro-Hamas agenda. Especially when such protests are routed in ways to intimidate the local Jewish population. Further, participating in such a protest (especially when it leads into abuses or violence) does put into question the moral character of the participants. That is why businesses would think twice about hiring them, or some nations are choosing to take the cautious approach and voiding visas for such participants.
An important point indeed, it is very dangerous for Universities to make political declarations. Keeping out of all disputes is the only way for them to continue to offer the medium in which a dialog could hold.
This is a rhetorical question. In America free speech is enshrined in the constitution. Thanks to social media and the internet we can reach audiences far and wide.
free speech (deployment) a. implications b. consequences c. ramifications d. repercussions defense of free speech a. public protest - what are you defending? b. weapons - why do you need to defend it? free speech (verification) a. context - what's the bigger picture? b. omissions - what is not being said? c. incitement - are you articulating responsibly? d. method - how are you communicating? e. means - what's your message? f. headline - is it expansive or restrictive? g. challenge - can you accept? h. compromise - are you flexible? i. humility - could you be wrong? j. aggression - what are your demands? k. violence - why are you bringing it?
Nothing is free. Especially speech. We all pay for our words and actions. 45 has free speech and his words are the most violent and divisional words that create pain and suffering in this world!!!!!!!!!
Thank you again Fareed for this wonderful intellectual debate. Yes universities need to stand strong,minutes, in saying they allow free speech but do not condone violence or supplying terrorists with any materials.
Free speech is a constutional right. Not a privilege. Thank you for this report.
Free speech ain't "free from consequences". The consequences can be unfair and unjust, but the consequences won't necessarily be fully remedied. You went marching, you got unjustly attacked, you lost an eye, you can seek justice after, but you lost your eye forever.
But hey, others lost their lives willingly defending this and that. some others lost their lives unwillingly just being collateral damage. An eye is cheap.
HAD to emphasize this: your rights is not innate. your rights derives from other people believing and upholding your rights.
@@moxinghbian😂
@@moxinghbian An eye for an eye leaves everyone blinded. "E. Musk"
@@solarsystem1605 an eye for an eye eventually will lead to eye transplantation, implantation, and finally full replacement.
"My-Adidas Gandhi"
@@moxinghbian "an eye for an eye eventually will lead to eye transplantation, implantation, and finally full replacement" If you're rich, the poor will just stay blind
“It’s not unpatriotic to denounce an injustice committed on our behalf, perhaps it’s the most patriotic thing we can do.”
― E.A. Bucchianeri, Brushstrokes of a Gadfly
Patriotism, like Religion is man-made dog poop to divide us and make enemies.
Mind Begs the Question:
- If USA/UK/West Leadership
- Finance,Arm to defend Apartheid,Occupation
- Democratic or Fascist masquerading as Democratic?
@@littlehalfpint Never forget that Ashkenazi are not Jews but Gentiles, as God says on Genesis 11 KJV.
Go Back to Europe! The Palestinian Holocaust started in 1948 by European Mongols.
Attacking young people who disagree with the government is unacceptable. The future belongs to them.
Thank you for supporting freedom of speech in our country.
Being young usually means less experience. A lot of young people today are incompetent.
I have long held a deep admiration for Fareed Zakaria, particularly because, like him, I was granted admission to a university when I first arrived in New York City in the 1980s. It was a moment of great pride for me to be in America and eventually become a citizen, and I made a promise to myself to fully embrace the country and its ideals of freedom. However, upon reflection, I must admit that I am now disappointed. Since leaving the US in 1999 to explore other parts of the world, I have found joy in immersing myself in different cultures and being a part of them. While I do miss America, I cannot align myself with the current state of affairs there.
NOBODY CARE
@@lembafranck3490 many care.
He's just copying a part of what right wing has said about Cultural Marxism agenda for years now. Look it up!!!
Watch his interview with Bill Maher. You'll change your mind
❤@@lembafranck3490
In todays world it goes like this, I believe in free speech for myself but not for anyone else.
let's get back to the law of the land and lots of this free speech thing gone out the door.
Rich Israeli controlling now
@@omarfarooq2708 I think he is being sarcastic.
Well said
Mind Begs the Question:
- If Jews protest march
- Against an Apartheid,Occupation
- If a Govt,Media label it Hate March
- Govt,Media is Anti-Semitic,no?
“If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.”
― George Washington
Which we already have been led to.
Everyone should criticize Israel. They bribe our politicians and steal BILLIONS of our tax dollars. Never forget the U.S.S. Liberty and the Dancing Israelis. Stop support of Israel.
He said that in a society where only land holding men could vote. And honestly, looking at how most of Gen Z is forming their opinions on this through Tiktok, I think we need to go back to that.
@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat It IS an interesting question: Even in a democratic society, should EVERY citizen have the right to vote? What about those who pay no taxes?
Beautifully spoken, Fareed.
I'm so glad we still have Fareed on to deal with things in a common sense way.
Well he did have to ignore some very inconvenient facts about those campus groups, like the fact they did fundraise for Hamas controlled charities, disguised as humanitarian aid for the Palestinian people, but still, they did in fact financially support a terrorist organization with the explicit goal of exterminating the Jewish population world wide...
Ya what would you ever do without your constant left wing media to spew lies at you? For once your hearing what everyone else "not a libtard" has been saying for years and through other independent news outlets for ages now, and you think it's some BIG revelation. Maybe if you didn't tune out every opposing opinion, you'd pick up a thing or two. All you guys know are Trump Bad, War Good, Hate Speech Bad, WOKE good, everything I don't want to hear is Racist, or some ISM.
"There is freedom of speech, but I cannot guarantee freedom after speech"
Exactly. Sure, speech is free but the consequences are not. For example, if a prospective employer deems it appropriate to do a background check and finds out that all your Facebook and Twitter posts don't align with their values, they're also free to rescind a job offer and not hire you as what happened to some of these students. That's within their right to do so too. The problem is a lot of people, especially young people, equate free speech to freedom from consequence. Nope. Not the same!
Idi Amin law
freedom of speech with possible severe consequences is in essence NO Freedom of speech. Especially when public entities, such as various levels of government, and public funded organizations, starts to require people to adhere to certain view points or face the consequences. That’s a direct contradiction of the constitution.
Armita is alive in we and I!!!
آرمیتا در من و ما زنده است!!!
Long live Israel and Iran!زنده باد داد ایران و اسراییل!
Down with Islamic Republic of Iran مرگ بر جمهوری اسهالی!
free Palestine from savage ratsفلسطین را از موشهای ددمنش پاک کنید 🌷👍
The front line of fight with decadent Islamic Republic is on borders of Israel ❤
خط مقدم جبهه نبرد با رژیم منحوس جمهوری اسلامی در مرزهای اسراییل قرار دارد ❤️
Liberal language ..
You have free speech so long as it does not conflict with doctrines followed by aging majority and influential billionaires.
You wish you were controlled by billionaires, in reality the people who control you are RUclips weenies
Exactly! All those billionaires attacking free speech are over their @$$.
Hahaaaaa...so true.
Did you miss the part about campuses then? Not many old people or billionaires there, yet those speeches got cancelled. We won't reach sensible conclusions if we just ignore examples which contradict our argument, it's a skewed viewpoint
...and to bigots.
Spot on Fareed, we need more folks like you in media & in politics who are committed to defending true free speech
Bravo ! Thank you for your important observations. In an educated society where people think rationally and have confidence in their institutions, there is nothing to be feared from free speech. The censorship we’re seeing now is the result of ignorance and fear, and I’m sad to see the « land of the free and the home of the brave » let one of its basic rights be menaced.
I think that Ron DeSantis always believed in free speech for white, conservative, Christian Americans.
I wouldn't go beyond that.
CNN is just as conservative as Ron DeSantis.
But the irony is that DeSantis is of Hispanic origin
@Geofflepper3207.
No if he could Ron would jail anyone for saying something he doesn't like, white or black.
Ron DeSanctis only believes in free speech if he agrees with that speech. Full stop.
Most of the free speech America first crowd leaders have been outed. At the drop of a hat they turned to free speech into cancel culture. And turned America first into Israel first.
Different from hate speech calling for death of a global religious minority.
I think Geoff makes things up as he goes.
money can suppress free speech, buy elections, buy politicians.
Mind Begs the Question:
- If those who defend Apartheid,Occupation
- Possess Nukes,AI Technology
- Likely to be used for Good or Evil?
You described American democracy very well.
Buy media also...
Add to that secret societies
True that, just ask good ole Scranton Joe ;-)
This is such a refreshing approach. A very clever, courageous man. Thinking critically, without being incendiary.
Your commentaries over the years are truly inspiring. I may not always agree with you, however, I always admire your insight.
Thank you Fareed, well expressed common sense, hardly ever broadcast these days 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Sorry, but I wouldn’t want Islamic terrorist sympathizers working for me.
I watched Tucker Carlson saying the exact same thing. For Israel, all the outcry go out of the window.
You must be joking!! It's been years since I watch CNN and just came across this show. CNN is bias on EVERYTHING. First Post news coverage is what I consider great news coverage.
For Netanyahu and co. It's not about the hostages, its about revenge for losing face.
In March 2019, Netanyahu told his Likud colleagues: “Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas … This is part of our strategy - to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.”
The master plan - divide and conquer.
Absolutely not what natanyaho do is erasing gaza to do his big project with Saudi Arabia a new canal it go through gaza land so it needed to have this land as israliy territory .....just for mony this why saudi princes silent about Israeli Israeli masecer ingaza
Geez, if only they could have seen through their master plan by not invading them in 1948 during the Arab Israeli war, or during the 6-day war of 1967, or the Yom Kippur war of 73, or the first or second intifada, they've been offered a full nation state by Israel, and by the UN at different points in history. They've said no every time for a reason.
Did he asked the Hamas to attack Israel as well? lol
@@The_Catnip He did not, but he did help them get into a position where they could threaten Israel to begin with.
@@samthesuspect Bruh... this is madness, I hope you understand.
More than Freedom of Speech. I think people are complaining about the Hypocrisy of institutions like Harvard. If you come down on speech that is offensive for you on topics like Gender, pronouns etc, then you are not really a supporter of Free speech. If you don't have regard for the principle of free speech, then you better cut down on speech that is offensive for all parties including Jews - especially calls of Genocide & the like.
Incitement is not protected under free speech. Calling for genocide is not free speech.
"Offensive" speech is still free speech.
Which doesn't incite violence
@@harryjove6725No kidding.
DEFINE “offensive” speech.
@@user-zq4fv8sj6v Speech that YOU don’t like.
@@user-bb1vq5if7m You’ve made an elementary, subjective point Matt. You must be a democrat who can’t afford their student loans that can’t get a real job in even Biden’s “healthy economy”. 😂😂😂
I’m so grateful that I retired just before our society went off the rails. It mostly doesn’t affect me, since I can now mostly avoid society’s BS.
@Me-sq9Ol yes I agree
Right there with you.✌️🇺🇸
Haha the Zionist Jews will take your pension if you talk to mutch
Do you think the west is in decline? The rot seems to have started in America. But that doesn’t explain the popularity of conspiracy theories. Intelligent, well-educated people with a strong belief in something seem ready to believe any CT that suits their narrative.
You a lucky man
Free speech should not include the right for politicians or news media to lie.
Whats the point of Free Speech if the govt. doesn’t listen? Whats the point of UN resolutions if no one follows them?
Basically, the difference today is that Israel is involved in the controversy and no criticism of Israel is allowed. Period.
Hannah Arendt actually addressed this in 1951 in Totalitarianism, a certain group stole a people's home and land and put them out in the desert and if anything was said they screamed anti-Semitism. The bully plays victim.
There are way too many criticisms towards Israel. No criticism toward Palestinians. Democrats are afraid to criticize Palestinians. Tell me why?
I've experienced this myself. Even the Israeli ambassador wanted to cancel the UN secretary general merely for suggesting there was a history to the conflict? It's an absolute joke.
@@user-ek3ez8xi6cdemocrats are too busy giving all of the American people’s money to Israel that’s why . How you enjoying the money ? The blood money ? Feel good don’t you ! I bet you sleep well at night too .
@@user-ek3ez8xi6chasbara troll ⬅️
Support of terrorism, either financial or verbal, should not be acceptable
I agree the U.S. should stop funding Israel.
Exactly what I tell those supporters of israel government
Who determines who a terrorist is ? A terrorist by American government definition.? We know how that ended with America accusing Iraq of 911 when they had nothing to do with it
America calls every person who defends his occupied land because it goes against its interest.
And america has always created or supported terrorism either financially and verbally like Iraq and Afghanistan and Palestine and it's not acceptable.
The question is not whether anyone believes in freedom of speech.
It was supposed to be why it is always double standard for the politicians ??
There's a limit to diversity. Terrorism not included.
It's a shame that the world has come to this. The right to protest isn't the right to harass, intimidate, damage or deny other's their rights including their right to counter-protest. Institutions, businesses and government departments don't have opinions, people do. When activists deny these bodies their "right to operate" unless they toe their line they destroy their ability to act impartially and fairly to maximise their benefit to society and that harms all of us.
Defending innocent Palestine civilians IS NOT antisemitism. Arabs also semitic, Jews are semitic, how can they be antisemitic? It's against Israel state, NOT the religion.
A timely and reminding report on the origin of free speech right as a constitutional right, somewhat nostalgia in tone, but highlights the importance of rewakening civil awareness of what free speech really intends to protect; This gets me back to reflect on the old song “ people talking without speaking, hearing without listening” in its post 21st century form.
As someone who emotionally can't help to be very much on Israel's side with the recent developments - I still couldn't agree more with what you are saying here.
There is no alternative to free speech for arriving at a nuanced, non partisan view of a situation as complex as this.
Anyone I have listened to from either side has ommitted important and highly relevant facts.
When emotions run high, it becomes impossible for us to perceive reality.
Well said, sir😊
< standing applause of deference > Fareed is poignant, insightful, and a voice of wisdom!
You’re not using the word poignant correctly, and I wouldn’t want antisemites and terrorist sympathizers working for me either.
“Freedom for me and my friends,
For everyone else, the law”
Violence is prohibited ! If there are speeches of hate should be prohibit
A very interesting and thought-provoking piece. I can see the value in Universities remaining officially neutral. However, that is often in significant tension with the need to make students of all walks of life feel welcome. This issue is deeper than I gave it credit for; thankyou, Fareed, for making me think more deeply about this.
Yup. Universities cannot be anything but neutral.. universities are supposed to be the temple of free-speech.
It's idiotic on their behalf to support or condemn anything. Students and politicians may agree or disagree with one cause or the other but universities themselves siding with one speech is totally unacceptable.
@@ululukululu450 Is it really that simple, though? What about the case of someone advocating for genocide, like Nazis? Or racial violence, like the Klan? Or perhaps if someone were arguing that LGBTQ+ students should be expelled from universities? Should the universities also remain silent in those cases? I'm not so sure, but what do you think?
@@liamcullen3035speech advocating for or inciting violence is not protected.
@@wendylafolle Ok, fair enough. So in that case, you're saying it would be ok for Universities to take a stance on those matters that do not involve protected speech?
Really, in some schools Jewish people are being attacked, also most Ivy League schools care very little for free speech, Harvard for example scored the lowest out of more than 100 universities on its free speech by a report. Free speech in higher education has long been dead.
Thanks Fareed Zakaria for updating ❤
Why haven’t the First Take of November 5th not published online?
There are no safe places for people like me. I worked hard all of my life only to watch it all fall apart. It’s out of my control. I only hope God hears my voice through this madness and darkness I must endure
Well said Mr Fareed.
Ultimate freedom of speech comes. When you have nothing to lose. No one can cancel you, if you have nothing to cancel. 😊
Those billionaires don't believe in free speech.
When students exercise free speech, they are not a lobby... cannot be seen as a lobby. Good point.
Free speech regulates and limits the way that Government can restrict its citizens right to speak (for example voice their views and opinions).
It doesn’t apply to the private sector. So private universities may contractually limit their students and employees right to speak if they so wish.
Many people seem to get this wrong now a days.
And this is fucking irrelevant as most universities are state institutions.
While there are legitimate attacks on free speech, I feel some mistake attacking freedom of speech with people just disagreeing or responding to said speech. You have a right to say what you want without worrying about being punished by the state (in most cases), but you don't have a right to be popular or liked. For example, someone is fired for saying prejudice things towards black people. The person will not go to jail, but they won't necessarily be cool with their boss.
The point isn't popularity or being "liked". The point is the University shouldn't pick and choose what speakers they ban. Let the Pro-Nazi speaker speak, and also let his theater be empty.
@@MrErizidthe OP’s point is that if anyone criticized that speaker or protested outside (which they ARE free to do) -
The right would say that their freedom of speech ISN’T being respected since others don’t agree with them.
Free,speech.yes,no hatred,no calls for violence,if any religion,calls for violence it is not a religion!
@@MrErizidthe university does have a right to choose who speaks at its location, just like you would in your own home. The OP is correct.
@@Stangy04 until billionaires decide otherwise.
There is a difference between freedom of speech and freedom from repercussions.
Liberals get their jollies saying or writing occupied or occupiers.
Except there really isn't. You're not really free if there are severre repurcussions for speaking your mind.
"The Narrative " is often clashing with Free Speech.
Blame those that are the victims without any options and celebrate those with the power and all the weapons
There should be freedom of speech in the form of a discussion. A speech that is not followed by a civil discussion questioning it is called preaching. Everyone should be able to come to a university campus to discuss and be challenged on their views by people equal to their stature, not just preach to a wide audience and field some questions at the end.
good one, but this means that practically all demonstrations would be banned. very good point, thought provoking.
@joelkroodsma3257 Demonstration is an act of desperation when a discussion is not an option or breaks down.
@@matshousetv2799 ok, perhaps. but then it resides outside of the domain of "freedom of speech". most "acts of desperation" are frowned upon at universities (indeed, in most public life)
Only when it benefits certain people 🤔
Does Dearborn MICH mean anything? Guard your TEMPLE, the bugs are out😢😢😢
Excellent report Fareed, well done.
"it has been the principal opponnent of a two state solution" Alright I support a one state solution do I still have to do my daily Hamas condemnation?
"Stop killing Palestinians."
"Yes, I get that, but do you condemn Hamas?"
If he didn't start with that, he would even be able to appear on CNN, yet he's talking about principles, what a clown 😂
@@AndrewMalone_ exactly! He had to make sure that he condemn Hamas. 😂
@@Aboertmann that's what our media do. You lost your entire family. You think they will interview you so you can bring awareness to what's going on in Gaza. They will spend 3/4 of the time asking you: "Do you condemn Hamas?".
Then you're part of the problem. Israel has a right to exist just as much as Palestine does. Without coexistence there will be no peace.
god bless palestine, long live palestine
God has not bless Palestinians. This is because Palestinians are the aggressors.
Everyone believes in free speech … until they hear something they don’t like
Mr. Fareed Zakaria condemned Hamas rightly so, but not a word for the ongoing horrific and inhumane treatment of people of Gaza. This hypocrisy and double standard has opened eyes of many left leaning folks like myself. But I know at the end of everything money, power and bought media houses will normalize the suffering of people by dehumanizing them. And the show will go on.
He is a writer bought and paid for by you know who. Without them he is a nobody.
Mr. Freed ins not free.
Absolutely right. Surely it is intentional. He is selling the official product to justify clamping down the truth which is huanting his masters. 🙏
There has never been freedom of speech.
I have to say as an American I'm saddened and embarrassed how so many of these schools have been silenced, it doesn't matter which side of the debate your on, you should be allowed to debate! Our politicians are no different, it's as if we've traded Washington, Lincoln and Grant with 3rd Stringers. This is what and where money in our politics gets us, it will set us up for failure on the international stage in the future. You want to see real politicians go at it, not concerned about money or outside influence, I encourage you all to watch video of the Irish Parliament in action. You watch and you see the passion on topics being debated, both sides, all of that is lacking in Washington because everyone there is more concerned about handouts from special interests than the voter or doing their job.
Most important "thing" is to have everyone understand the circumstances in which Israel came into being. 99% of the population has no clue - there seems to be widespread "conspiracy" to throttle / cover up any discussion on that.
yes, britain, amerikkka and is - real complicit! kolonization and racism is common tread!
@@adriennebraxton-oq9iu how was America founded? Genocide. How was England founded- anglo saxon invasion. So its fine for you but not for jews.
Colonization and oppression of the state of Palestine is how Israel come to fake existence.
Yup I absolutely do. The only way to see some rodents is to know it. Otherwise those rodents might try to control morality in there own image.
explain please. im lost on the analogy
Too,many people,including myself,get self absorbed in our self centered beliefs! We all need to disect the truth and the facts,from our beliefs and statements!!!
@@tomwalsh63 Sounds positively Trumpian.
Kent State, Ohio, May 4, 1970
I always listen to Mr. Zakaria with great interest. I value his ability to bring a 3rd perspective to the American political scene. In this case, Mr. Zakaria has overlooked the intimidating and even violent nature of the on campus anti-Israel protests, the physical attacks on Jewish students, and the Title IX implications for equal opportunity and access to our institutions of higher education. Barring that, Mr. Zakaria thoughts make a lot of sense.
This Fareed guy is like trying to smoke a cig with a bad hangover...
Full respect to VIVEK Ramaswamy. He is the only politician who is standing for full free speech even though he keeps getting attacked for it from left and right.
Yes. Your free to drink his free koolaid too.
I mean to the extent a conservative is allowed on this issue, he’s been pro free speech. But he’s still been terrible on the Israel Gaza issue as a whole and sounds like any other standard neocon politician
@@SquidysTentsVote Biden again then 😂
There will be no Palestine if Biden is elected again
@@thebestevertherewas Happy to say I never have voted Biden, and I never will vote Biden
@@thebestevertherewas
What's the benefit of there being a Palestine?
There are 50-60 Muslim majority countries in the world today. How have any of them benefitted mankind?
No free speech for the enemies of the country.
Pray for peace.
Bill Ackman should be sued for defamation especially those that are wrongly painted.
Wrongly? their names were on the letter. Blame the student groups who reflexively sided with the murderers and rapists.
From the river to the sea
There are over 250,000 rivers in the United States that combine for a total of more than 3,500,000 miles. Which river (s) are you talking about and which sea (Ocean): Pacific/Atlantic/Arctic (Alaska)/Gulf of Mexico?.
😂
You should go. I hear it's lovely this time of year.
Remember Jonathan Lewis a forgotten victim of hate crime
"Free speech" is allowed as long as it falls in line with the dominant narrative.
Q: in a court of law could a rapist call for self defense against his victim who tries to fight him off by all means? So how can an occupier claim self defense? When you occupy you are by default on the offensive.
Palestinians have been offered a state 7 times. It might actually be 8. The idea that somehow Israel is responsible for the utter misery in Gaza because it controls the ports, electricity, and water is laughable. There have been tens of billion poured into Gaza the last 15 years. Where's the infrastructure? Where's the office buildings and development? Where's the factories? Instead they elected a terrorist group that has stolen all the money to build hundreds of miles of terror tunnels and rockets.
Israel does not occupy Gaza. Your point is nonsense.
@@eshbena yeah, keep saying the sky isn’t blue, it won’t change a thing.
@@eshbena Exactly, by exiting Gaza they allowed terrorism to grow unchecked which unleashed such atrocities.
@@eshbena It is worse than an occupation, it is a concentration camp.
They control who gets in and who gets out. They decide what they can and can't build. No airports, dock ports allowed. No water treatment plans allowed.
They control the food going in, they control the water going in.
The OP's point would seem like nonsense to a person who believes their feelings are more important than facts/reality.
I condemn any words of hate or malice conveyed in any kind of way towards the Jewish people anywhere in the world, all religions can live together in peace and harmony, it is time to bring back peace for both the palestinians and the israelis, no more wars, no more pain, no more hate
you are talking complete bollocks, there will never be peace in the middle east.
To all people no matter race/nationality/religion!.
Do Palestinians want peace? They want the death of Jews and the death of America.
It seems to me you are not from the Middle East. And if you are from the Middle East I would like to ask you a question. How tolerant are Muslim countries towards Christianity? How many Cristian churches you will find in a Muslim country? How many western values you will find to be shared in the Muslim world? You are a naive man, islam wants the whole world. It doesn’t want to live in peace with other religions. It must be one religion. Islam. Farid Zaharia is good man, however today first time in my life I feel unsafe. First time in my life I got a thought of buying a firearm. Free speech is very important. But I will not be able to protect my family with this.
Nice work. Thank you.
A very intelligent speech with all respect dear 🙏❤
But Fareed... Do you condemn Hummus? 😂
A low level of comment, you have to let your self just to listen
Fareed, there is no debating with hardline Islamists. Their position is absolute religious certainty, which leads to silencing opposition with threats of violence. Like it or not, "freedom of speech" is not at issue here. And why, Mr. Zakaria, did you have no problem speaking of jihadis as inexcusably violent in your documentary, Terror In Mumbai, though now you would advocate for expressions of the same call to violence on college campuses? The difference wouldn't be Jews, would it?
You mean there is no debating with hardline Zionist.
@@briendoyle3823 You may think that's a clever remark, but consider the following. A truly devout Jew does not subscribe to the ideas of martyrdom and jihad. Devout Muslims do. Devout Jews are not the reason we have to take off our shoes at the airport. Devout Muslims are the reason.
@@HandgunSafe : Interesting because Zionist in Israel have called for the complete destruction of the lands held by Palestinians. Zionist in the Israeli Government have called Arabs and Palestinians dogs who should be wiped off the face of the earth.
And please with the terrorist's bullshit.
Oklahoma City wasn't done by Muslims but a White Christian.
Atlanta Olympic Bombings weren't done by Muslims but a White Christian.
The attack on the U.S.S. Liberty wasn't done by Muslims but Israel.
WW2 which caused over 70 million deaths wasn't caused by Islam but by Christians.
And who supported the Death Squads in El Salvador. The United States.
Who supported the Death Squads in Colombia. The United States.
Who supported the Dictator which killed their own citizens in Chile. The United States.
Who routinely kills innocent civilians with Drone Strikes in Afghanistan and Iraq and Syria and Pakistan and Yemen and Libya and Niger and Nigeria and Somalia and Chad and Mali and Morocco and Ghana and the Philippines. The United States.
So spare me the talking points.
A truly devout Jew Does subscribe to the ideas of enslaving others, raping women, Genocide (Amalkites remark) even the Torah contain this doctrine of mass murder of children, women & elders even animals according to Torah don't get to survive. What Israel is doing in Gaza & the politicians proving by their words& actions proves jews live by their racist genocidal doctrine and they can't hide anymore.
The whole Jewish thing is based on racism (just cause you were born to this race you by default become god's chosen people and get away with even mass murder & the most heinous crimes and what's more is you also get to play the victim) @@HandgunSafe
You can say the same about any hardline insert religion here.
Today, "Free Speech" is defined as any speech that I agree with.
Not only there is no free speech. The speeches are misinterpreted to condemn the other side.
#Blacks4Trump 💪🏾
Free speech? A critic from CNN? I think Donald Trump’s name should be mentioned as a victim.
The right to free speech is not a right to say "anything" without consequences. Especially in the surveillance society we live in.
In the case of the pro-Palestinian protesters the concern is that such protests are often a thin veil covering a pro-Hamas agenda. Especially when such protests are routed in ways to intimidate the local Jewish population.
Further, participating in such a protest (especially when it leads into abuses or violence) does put into question the moral character of the participants. That is why businesses would think twice about hiring them, or some nations are choosing to take the cautious approach and voiding visas for such participants.
An important point indeed, it is very dangerous for Universities to make political declarations. Keeping out of all disputes is the only way for them to continue to offer the medium in which a dialog could hold.
vote for Donald Trump….or else! 🇺🇸
Here's what China's 🇨🇳 leadership fears the most:
- voting,
- freedom of speech,
- transparency, and
- the international rules-based system.
Iran and Hamas as well fear the same things.
Free speech without control will one day create chaos
Ver well said.
This is a rhetorical question. In America free speech is enshrined in the constitution. Thanks to social media and the internet we can reach audiences far and wide.
Free speech is not a hall pass to incite violence or harm others. The Supreme Court has ruled on this.
So excellent, so timely. ❤
Thank you for ringing up this issue ✌️ nobody has thinking and all except that mean you are thinking out of the box😎……!! I really admire you
Excellent commentary. Thank You!
It's one thing to defend Gaza civilians another to defend Hamas. Something is wrong on college campuses if they are defending Hamas.
Tell me who you’re not allowed to criticize and I’d tell you who control you.
free speech (deployment)
a. implications
b. consequences
c. ramifications
d. repercussions
defense of free speech
a. public protest - what are you defending?
b. weapons - why do you need to defend it?
free speech (verification)
a. context - what's the bigger picture?
b. omissions - what is not being said?
c. incitement - are you articulating responsibly?
d. method - how are you communicating?
e. means - what's your message?
f. headline - is it expansive or restrictive?
g. challenge - can you accept?
h. compromise - are you flexible?
i. humility - could you be wrong?
j. aggression - what are your demands?
k. violence - why are you bringing it?
US-" don't ever say anything about our baby Israel"
Nothing is free. Especially speech. We all pay for our words and actions. 45 has free speech and his words are the most violent and divisional words that create pain and suffering in this world!!!!!!!!!
Thank you again Fareed for this wonderful intellectual debate. Yes universities need to stand strong,minutes, in saying they allow free speech but do not condone violence or supplying terrorists with any materials.
Starting your speech mentioning one group as terrorists shuts down the discussion before it starts
Let them speak. Just don't show up. That's what I did 40 years ago when I went to college.
You can free speech and prohibit violence and hate !