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  • @Spacedock
    @Spacedock  Год назад +62

    The Sojourn on Spotify (Only in certain regions):
    open.spotify.com/show/2JImkuQbQlI4dJFEpO6FHx?nd=1&si=dhhKojLiSkWDrRuFcx_b-A

    • @citamcicak
      @citamcicak Год назад +1

      You are back on sopotify? I vaguely remember, Danial stating Sojurn was leaving over contract/royalty split issues.

    • @Spacedock
      @Spacedock  Год назад +8

      @@citamcicak That was Audible, not Spotify.
      Spotify, at least for audiobook and audio drama creators, pay a quite reasonable rate.

    • @citamcicak
      @citamcicak Год назад +2

      @@Spacedock derp is me, somehow I mistook the largest music streaming service for Audible. My bad. Good to hear Sojourn getting more widely distributed.

    • @orcaman1353
      @orcaman1353 Год назад +2

      1:09 speaking of Yamato space battleship Yamato ship breakdowns when?

    • @hamishsewell5990
      @hamishsewell5990 Год назад

      Love your material! Yeah, the techno-Gothic aesthetic of the the Imperium’s ships in 40k really does it for me

  • @andyb1653
    @andyb1653 Год назад +284

    WH40K has some of my favorite spaceship designs, from the elegant-yet-brutal flying Cathedrals of the Imperium and forces of Chaos, to the ramshackle and comical "this really shouldn't work" jerry-rigged Ork ships. Star Wars also has some stunning designs, especially in the Imperial capital ships (the Executor class being my all-time favorite space warship). Colin Cantwell could really do some incredible things with a simple triangle.

    • @VoxAstra-qk4jz
      @VoxAstra-qk4jz 2 месяца назад +1

      "really shouldn't work"
      Don't forget the lore!

    • @andyb1653
      @andyb1653 2 месяца назад

      @@VoxAstra-qk4jz Oh, I get how Orks work. Don't worry about that. Back when I played GW games, Orks were my go-to race 'cos I loved the in-game lore behind 'em. They might be the ONLY faction that's actually having a good time in the 40K 'verse.

  • @mitwhitgaming7722
    @mitwhitgaming7722 Год назад +404

    One thing that I always love in sci-fi is when they have a continuous shot that follows the characters through the ship, giving you a clear picture of how it is layed out.
    I always love the slice of life sorta stuff, what is actually like aboard ship.

    • @DigitalJedi
      @DigitalJedi Год назад +12

      I've been trying to write some slice-of-life shorts within my setting now that my main project is out of my hands. I've been loving writing about the random things that go on in a ship or station, or just a day in the life of somebody visiting one of the massive colony crater cities, like Occator, Ceres.
      I've loved thinking about how people would just get around, what there is to do, and how life is compared to what we're all used to.

    • @AnonymousFreakYT
      @AnonymousFreakYT Год назад +9

      With the star of the show: the post-title almost-one-continuous-shot walkthrough of Serenity. Four and a half minutes of apparently-single-take handheld camera. (IIRC, there are two or three well-disguised cuts.)

    • @sharksareneat8723
      @sharksareneat8723 Год назад +5

      Firefly was the best for this, I love how you get to see how every room and hallway connects and how lived in the ship seems.

    • @heathb4319
      @heathb4319 Год назад +5

      @@sharksareneat8723 ...You beat me to it.
      Was about to say the intro shot in Serenity does it well with the walk through from the bridge back to the engine room passing the crew quarters then down to the cargo bay and infirmary.
      Some serious steady cam work with continuous shot to give you a real feel.

    • @andrewreynolds912
      @andrewreynolds912 Год назад

      Exactly

  • @opensketchbook
    @opensketchbook Год назад +464

    That Holly Jencka art at the end is from the upcoming RPG "Torchship", an exploration game which combines soft sci-fi, Star Trek like space exploration with hard sci-fi concepts and dangers. Holly's an amazing artist and its incredible to have her on the team bringing it to life.

    • @hoojiwana
      @hoojiwana Год назад +24

      Hey there!

    • @DrBunnyMedicinal
      @DrBunnyMedicinal Год назад +6

      @@hoojiwana Great vid, and thank you for correcting your pronunciation of Yamato. Keep up the great work, mate!

    • @akizeta
      @akizeta Год назад +1

      Sounds interesting. Got a link?

    • @ArcaneAzmadi
      @ArcaneAzmadi Год назад +5

      This may seem like a stupid question, but it's actually not really: is that concept art for a video game RPG, or a book art for a tabletop RPG? I tried googling it and came up with nothing (because "torchship" is a common term in theoretical spacecraft design).

    • @davidcolby167
      @davidcolby167 Год назад +4

      @@ArcaneAzmadi It's for a tabletop RPG! There's a website being made for it, but it's not finished! ...yet.

  • @DrakeAurum
    @DrakeAurum Год назад +222

    The Alliance capital ships in Firefly take this to an extreme, being basically just a set of modern skyscrapers on a platform with engines.

    • @Mark-in8ju
      @Mark-in8ju Год назад +6

      Artificial gravity would be perpendicular to thrust, which would defeat the purpose of a building-shaped ship.

    • @DrakeAurum
      @DrakeAurum Год назад +27

      @@Mark-in8ju The Firefly setting doesn't use thrust-based artificial gravity in the first place. And the Alliance ship design isn't functional, it's symbolic - taking their idea of urban civilisation and comfort out with them to the rest of the system.

    • @Raguleader
      @Raguleader Год назад +12

      @@Mark-in8ju The purpose of the building-shaped ship in this case was to be a ship that was also a bunch of buildings. The Dortmunder was not designed to be a *subtle* metaphor for Alliance culture.

    • @DolusVulpes
      @DolusVulpes Год назад

      ​@@Mark-in8junot really, since the outer facades of many buildings would work equally as well no matter which way the rooms inside are oriented, especially in the vacuum of space.

    • @Melody_Raventress
      @Melody_Raventress 10 месяцев назад +3

      Yeah, Alliance cruisers are pretty arrogant vessels when you come right down to it.

  • @lostmarble540
    @lostmarble540 Год назад +123

    I love that imperium ships in 40k have battering rams on them. It's got to be the silliest thing to put on a space ship but damn does it look cool

    • @lachlanmckinnie1406
      @lachlanmckinnie1406 Год назад +23

      Well given that 40k loves its glorious close combat, it makes sense. Can't just sit back and only shoot the enemy from a distance like a T'AU!

    • @outis7080
      @outis7080 Год назад +32

      What's even cooler is 40K's void combat is surprisingly (relatively) more realistic than a lot of popular franchises. Void combat can initiate at lightsecond ranges, using relativistic kill weapons. A few thousand kilometres is considered within close range, although this can devolve to ramming enemy vessels with your ship's armoured prow. I love how it goes from the (relatively) hard sci fi method of firing projectiles traveling at a good chunk of the speed of light to the pre-gunpowder method of ramming enemy vessels.

    • @Xo-3130
      @Xo-3130 Год назад +9

      @@outis7080 plus given how armored the hulls at the front are it is a valid tactic.

    • @XShadowzVarcolac
      @XShadowzVarcolac Год назад +7

      considering the size of an armada in 40k, it's not surprising if a smaller ship would run out of ammo before half the enemy armada is even destroyed

    • @dlyonthescreen2657
      @dlyonthescreen2657 Год назад +6

      @@outis7080 On a smaller scale, even the fighter spacecraft are more realistic than most franchises. The Fury Interceptor, workhorse of the Imperial Navy, is as big as a Boeing 747 because weight is less of a concern in the void of space and can therefore carry more powerful armament and propulsion.
      Their spacecraft cannot fight in atmosphere and their atmospheric craft cannot fight in space, because these are two separate environments that require their own specialized designs.

  • @The_Lone_Aesir
    @The_Lone_Aesir Год назад +77

    I like how in "Space above and beyond" the Human Capital ships were basically futuristic aircraft carriers, and the Hammerhead fighters drew inspiration from, well hammerheads.

    • @knghtbrd
      @knghtbrd Год назад +5

      I really liked S:A&B. I suspect this one isn't hoojiwana's cup of tea given a video in recent months calling out so many SciFi properties for basically regurgitating WWII … but in space! S:A&B was just about literally that, short-lived, and some of the premises for the episodes we did get were a little silly. No, a real military isn't going to take highly trained and specialized fighter pilots and order them to leave their fighters behind so they can be left behind as a consequence of the brass having to make the hard decisions about leaving troops to fend for themselves when the tactical situation means losing a lot more people if you try to get them out.
      Despite its flaws, the show had a lot going for it at a time when TV Sci-Fi just didn't really address those topics well. The good guys are racists? How the war happened in the first place, who the alien enemy is, the politics involved in war, the toll it takes on the people fighting it, trauma, PTSD, addiction, military medical care, betrayal, discipline … that's a lot for a single season that's also basically cribbing its plotlines from WWII stories.
      The show does not get enough recognition IMO.

    • @ClassicMagicMan
      @ClassicMagicMan Год назад

      @@knghtbrd It really was an amazing show. It needed a second season, the finale was wild!

    • @richardn3387
      @richardn3387 Год назад

      Great show. The ide of carriers works because they emphasized boots on the ground. Taking a planet was not hovering over it in space and calling it victory. The ships were there to protect landing craft. Very much WWII Pacific theatre.

  • @Teekanic
    @Teekanic Год назад +156

    There's a particular Union ship in Firefly that I always thought looked like a city in space. I love it because it looks so practical and different from other ships in sci-fi, and even the series.

    • @jeyfromnowhere
      @jeyfromnowhere Год назад +14

      First thing that came to my mind, too. Just a floating skyrise.

    • @atariduckman
      @atariduckman Год назад +17

      That was the "Dortmunder". Named after the city in Germany.
      It was one hell of a ship.
      A really great design. A floating Cityblock in space.

    • @Malocalypse
      @Malocalypse Год назад +6

      Came here for this, also the Sentinel citadel in Doom Eternal is basically a castle turned spaceship

    • @Big_Red1
      @Big_Red1 Год назад +11

      In that vein, cant forget Atlantis (stargate) as well.

    • @Raguleader
      @Raguleader Год назад +7

      Ironically enough, the Dortmunder was designed specifically to look impractical, because the engines are at "ground level" but the skyscrapers give it a wild imbalanced effect, showing that the Alliance doesn't need to conserve resources by creating practical designs, they just stack cities on top of a big set of engines.
      That said, the shot of the gunships hanging off the bottom of the ship like bats ready to launch at a moment's notice was pretty neat.

  • @Ushio01
    @Ushio01 Год назад +62

    Using naval traditions makes a lot of sense since during the age of exploration sailing ships could take years for a one way journey even with lots of stops on the way (discovering strange new worlds and new civilisations) Even crossing just the Atlantic in the 1840's could take over 50 days while today it's 6-7 hours on an airliner.
    So going back to look at how people coped on incredibly long voyages on tightly packed ships for up to 2 months at a time is a good basis for sci-fi ships that can travel between stars.

    • @zchen27
      @zchen27 Год назад +15

      And also note how much naval traditions have influenced future vehicle terminology. Planes "navigate" despite not being boats, and have "port/starboard" sides instead of left/right. Tanks have "compartments" and "hatches" and a "hull", the top of of which is called a "deck".

    • @Ushio01
      @Ushio01 Год назад +5

      @@zchen27 Port and starboard isn't really the same thing as left is left depending on where you are facing while port is the left side when facing the bow only.

    • @MegaKnight2012
      @MegaKnight2012 Год назад +6

      Looking at the superstitions of sailors stuck on ships for long voyages, it's strange such superstitions don't make it into more space travel stories

    • @matthiuskoenig3378
      @matthiuskoenig3378 9 месяцев назад +1

      Note alot naval words refure to things that can just as easily apply to space vehicles as sea ones.
      Navy/naval/etc comes from navies (boat) which is believed to come from a word meaning float. Things in space float.
      Ship? Comes from a word meaning hollow object (which a space ship is).
      Vessel? Also hollow object.
      Fleet? From a word meaning float.
      Marine is one of the few that actually directly references water.

  • @deusexaethera
    @deusexaethera Год назад +50

    "The Eiffel Tower is damn near a spaceship already."
    Well, I'm never going to look at the Eiffel Tower the same way ever again.

  • @lukasvillar9328
    @lukasvillar9328 Год назад +65

    The OG Iserlohn Fortress is beautiful... It is like a castle inside a silver snow globe in space.
    Also, we need a video about the ships from Legend of the Galactic Heroes universe ASAP, the Flagschiff Brünhild needs some love.

    • @thearchives1094
      @thearchives1094 Год назад +3

      I second this

    • @ATRStormUnit
      @ATRStormUnit Год назад +1

      I third this.

    • @la_potat6065
      @la_potat6065 Год назад +4

      Brunhild and Barbarossa my beloved, both need their respective vids. Heck why not Konigstiger too, I love the brutish look of its prow.

    • @lukasvillar9328
      @lukasvillar9328 Год назад +1

      @@la_potat6065 The Perceval too... The delta-looking flagship is the most gorgeous ship in scifi IMO.

    • @gilbertosantos2806
      @gilbertosantos2806 Год назад +1

      Absolutley!

  • @DycuswasHere
    @DycuswasHere Год назад +79

    Might as well throw in the Castle of Lions from Voltron: Legendary Defenders. A bit of a surprise when we found out it was really a rocket ship in the first season but the more you saw it the more sense a castle would make as a ship.

    • @deusexaethera
      @deusexaethera Год назад +8

      I mean, except for bricks falling off when accelerating.

    • @DycuswasHere
      @DycuswasHere Год назад +11

      @@deusexaethera Space bricks son! They stick together with electro-magnetic sealing and provide thermal shielding for atmospheric re-entry!

    • @boywithcrackers3871
      @boywithcrackers3871 Год назад +4

      Damn, just remember that show.
      I watch the show until season 2 finale and never pick it back, does the show really go downhill from there?

    • @DycuswasHere
      @DycuswasHere Год назад +3

      @@boywithcrackers3871 It's not the dumpster fire that fans make it out to be but it does dip in quality after season 2. Post season 2 has some great characters and concepts but they get underutilized or messed with by execs.

    • @lonniecombs7431
      @lonniecombs7431 Год назад +2

      It was a starship in the OG series too, in the movie 'fleet of doom'

  • @d.robertdigman1293
    @d.robertdigman1293 Год назад +27

    I loved the fact that HMS Camden Lock from the British series Hyperdrive was basically the British Telecom Tower with engines attached!

    • @CanadianFabe
      @CanadianFabe Год назад +5

      I'm a bit surprised spacedock missed that one.

    • @d.robertdigman1293
      @d.robertdigman1293 Год назад +4

      @@CanadianFabe As am I!

    • @d.robertdigman1293
      @d.robertdigman1293 Год назад +4

      @@CanadianFabe I also think the Camden Lock would make the subject of a nice video here!

  • @TheOneWhoMightBe
    @TheOneWhoMightBe Год назад +32

    The Battleplates from Schlock Mercenary were simple geometric shapes (primarily triangles), although inside them was hundreds of 'skyscrapers' which functioned as independent ships if necessary.
    Babylon 5 leant into architecture with a 'brand' for each species; Humans went for brutalism (with the exception of the Hyperions), the Minbari went for an aquatic theme, the Centauri chose gothic/art deco, the Vree had flying saucers because they are Greys.

    • @reganator5000
      @reganator5000 Год назад +1

      battleplates are such a weird initial design because they were supposed to deflect rocks before they came up with enough tech to make 'big tessalating shape' less of an important feature in that function. But by then, i presume all the shipyards were triangular, sort of like why you don't see many catamarans in the military.

    • @DrakeRunner
      @DrakeRunner Год назад

      need more Schlock Mercenary in my life

    • @paulsd9255
      @paulsd9255 2 месяца назад

      And then there’s how EVE Online’s ships behave like submarines, with how the warp drive apparently changes the physics such that you move like submarines

  • @Omnomface
    @Omnomface Год назад +24

    Regarding brutalist designs, i can easily point to EVE Online's Caldari vessels for other examples, like the Rokh battleship which used to be referred to as the cinderblock or the Naga battlecruiser. It's fun to see how they've mixed brutalist with radiotower aesthetics for that faction.

  • @seth408
    @seth408 Год назад +18

    Wow thanks for mentioning Moscow landmarks, the Mercury tower also resembles Orion-class destroyer from Freespace, and top-to-bottom Ostankino tower drone shot is glorious, Soviet-era high-rise construction is impressive.

  • @kevingriffith6011
    @kevingriffith6011 Год назад +15

    This just reminds me of a bunch of digital paintings I saw a couple years ago. (A quick google search says they were done by Eric Geusz.) Basically he took a bunch of mundane household objects (bottles, electric razors, potato peelers, etc) and used them as the basis for spaceship designs. Some of them are a bit silly, but some of them are legitimately cool designs.

  • @44WarmocK77
    @44WarmocK77 Год назад +29

    I've been working on a ship design using art deco for some time now - works surprisingly well and you get these awesome dieselpunk vibes quite easily. ^^

    • @Banchoking
      @Banchoking Год назад +1

      Oh, you know that Art Deco motif of a series of angular ridges used as a centerpiec of a design? You could make fighter craft that are just that shape on its own.
      Or perhaps a ship shaped like an Art Deco bird hood ornament.

    • @44WarmocK77
      @44WarmocK77 Год назад +1

      @@Banchoking I used it for a very "boxy" spacecraft design akin to a DropShip from BattleTech od a drop pod from Warhammer 40k. It's supposed to be the core of a royal or noble family's palace. Consider it the Donjon of the palace of a family governing a planet, which also acts as an escape vessel in case the planet is overrun and the family has to be evacuated (although leaving a planet this way is officially seen as ceeding control to the invaders). I might upload a few renders on Deviant Art eventually, but right now I'm fully occupied with fixing Fallout 4. :D

  • @hackr6751
    @hackr6751 Год назад +9

    I see what you mean about the curved parts of the ishimura looking like flying buttresses, but to me they always evoked the idea of an exposed ribcage, as if the ship itself was as much of a decaying, undead monster as the necromorphs that infest its halls.

  • @nicholasolson7032
    @nicholasolson7032 Год назад +9

    1. I'm always happy when someone remembers the USS Cygnus
    2. That last image reminds me of the rocket at the end of Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust. A literal castle tower was also a rocket. VHD is kinda wild like that.

    • @thewanderer1317
      @thewanderer1317 Год назад

      VHD is a strange mix of sci-fi and fantasy that somehow works.

  • @boingthegoat7764
    @boingthegoat7764 Год назад +4

    Doctor Who serial "State of Decay" (1980) had a gothic castle that turned out to be a very old parked spaceship (with resident vampires who were the original bridge crew)

  • @spacepiratecaptainrush1237
    @spacepiratecaptainrush1237 Год назад +20

    one influence I'm surprised you didn't bring up in the general ship inspirations is Sports cars, especially since those are in my opinion one of the main influences behind the Empire's ships in Legend of the Galactic Heroes. High ranking admirals get bespoke sculpted command ships that are part work of art and part political statement. This contrasted with the Free Planets Alliance with it's much more uniform and utilitarian ship designs.
    something I haven't seen yet but might be cool would be classical/neoclassical architecture to evoke some of that high Roman Empire kind of vibes. like, turn the city of Venice into a spaceship

  • @xenostyrant4118
    @xenostyrant4118 Год назад +8

    Thunderbird 3 is an excellent example of a combination of chemical rocket with art deco style

  • @JimmyCerra
    @JimmyCerra Год назад +17

    Cylon Resurrection Ships, from the reboot Battlestar Galactica, also seem to have a very 17th-19th century design.

    • @hoojiwana
      @hoojiwana Год назад +1

      I would not be surprised to learn those are based on the USAF Academy Cadet Chapel.
      - hoojiwana from Spacedock

  • @Jacob-pu4zj
    @Jacob-pu4zj Год назад +6

    "You could even lean real hard into that style with big train-like water tanks and nuclear-thermal rockets to make it into steam, or go even harder into that look and straight-up have trains in space like in Sunless Skies, but that _derails_ the discussion from architecture. To get back on _track_ the spooky ships..."
    Are you proud of yourself, Mr script-writer? Are you happy with the decisions you made in life?

    • @hoojiwana
      @hoojiwana Год назад +2

      Yes
      - hoojiwana from Spacedock

  • @thefob9675
    @thefob9675 Год назад +42

    Cool video! Quick note: Mass Effect took most of it's inspiration from Syd Mead's retro-futuristic architectural sketches. This goes of course for the buildings you can see on on the planets like Earth, Thessia or Eden Prime but it also goes for the ships that are not the Normandy like the human destroyers and dreadnoughts as well as the asari and turian ships.

    • @hoojiwana
      @hoojiwana Год назад +3

      Prothean architecture is brutalist.
      - hoojiwana from Spacedock

  • @jack1701e
    @jack1701e Год назад +6

    Ahhh 7:22 the Pegasus! So glad to see that again, Voyage to the Planets is one of my favourite science docudramas.

  • @signorUebelst
    @signorUebelst Год назад +3

    One thing I could see working out really well for the long noodly "hard scifi" ships is taking inspiration from Guide Wire Towers as seen with Those really long radio towers.
    Simply have some masts sticking out from the middle bit to which the Guy Wires attach and then guide them back to the other end of the ship so that you got anchor points to that wont shift.

  • @Culdcepter
    @Culdcepter Год назад +2

    Love that Gunstar, with Death Blossom.

  • @Grits420
    @Grits420 Год назад +4

    You got me with the 40k ship thumb nail. Best sci fi universe ship design

  • @Iwanbezbrody
    @Iwanbezbrody Год назад +3

    Glad to see Voyage to the Planets reference

  • @anthonyrobaky6436
    @anthonyrobaky6436 Год назад +6

    Now, this was an aspect of spacecraft design I had never thought of, because I never noticed where the feeling of familiarity came from. Now it’s making my imagination run.
    Thank you very much!

    • @hoojiwana
      @hoojiwana Год назад +1

      Make some cool stuff!
      - hoojiwana from Spacedock

  • @ShawnHCorey
    @ShawnHCorey Год назад +3

    Most spaceships are going to end up tall. That's because anything that is not directly over the rockets will have to be cantilevered. Ships will look like towers or skyscrapers.
    Cargo ships will be based on the size of the standard shipping container. There is so much equipment based on handling standard shipping containers that it will follow humans into space.

    • @TheAchilles26
      @TheAchilles26 Год назад +2

      I could also see ships being bullet shaped, either for aesthetics, or in the case of warships because curved armor is better protection/survivability than sharp corners. Although I suppose you could argue that this would still be tower-like, given round towers exist

    • @ShawnHCorey
      @ShawnHCorey Год назад

      @@TheAchilles26 If you're talking warships, don't forget the most power weapon a ship has is its rockets. They move the ship thru space. They are the most powerful system on the ship. And if focused on another ship, they can have devastating results.

    • @erikschaal4124
      @erikschaal4124 Год назад +1

      Asteroid mining ship= just strap some engines onto the Asteroid.

    • @TheAchilles26
      @TheAchilles26 Год назад

      @@ShawnHCorey the effective range and capacity for target tracking on those makes them nigh useless as offensive weapons between spacecraft

  • @guyman2674
    @guyman2674 Год назад +5

    Ngl, I'm a bit bummed that Covenant ships from Halo weren't brought up here. I've always loved their curved designs with the bulbous bow sections.

  • @justicetaylor3050
    @justicetaylor3050 Год назад +3

    One of my favorite building space ships was the one from Star Wars Solo movie. You know the one at the end, the luxury sky scraper that has the office at the top and surprised you by taking off and flying away.

  • @AllPossibleDogs
    @AllPossibleDogs Год назад +5

    Morphologis has an extremely great series where he reviews fictional ships and locations (mainly from Star Citizen) using his knowledge from his career as an architect. he focuses mainly on internals (since thats where SC stands out) but its worth a watch even if you don't play or like SC, which i dont, its still good spaceship design discussion

  • @abutb2745
    @abutb2745 Год назад

    I remember seeing this guy talk abt spaceship blueprints and love how far he has gone, proud of you man

  • @bottasheimfe5750
    @bottasheimfe5750 Год назад +8

    yeah that one ship you showed at the end is definitely a nice design. the radiators make it look like a Gothic Tower with Angel Wings. I really like that

  • @cortex8185
    @cortex8185 Год назад +2

    I'm so glad someone *finally* mentioned the Nostalgia for Infinity! Lighthuggers (the Infinity's ship class) are fascinating from a design perspective and on top of that are absolutely MASSIVE!

    • @anticlaassic
      @anticlaassic Год назад

      Which would you prefere: Noatalgia for infinity before or after the capitain Brennagan infestation? Or perhaps the upgraded ship from absolution gap?

  • @linz8291
    @linz8291 2 месяца назад

    There are some aspects,
    1. floating/cloud/moving city-sized motherships.
    2. as first step to extroplanets terraforming process.
    3. long-distance space journey and get ready to meet your galactic neighbors in any time.
    4. planet-sized mothership networks.

  • @Jdne199311
    @Jdne199311 Год назад +1

    Im so happy you meation the Pegesus from BBC voyage to the planets, I love that ship as a kid, and its said that its be largely forgotten by the world.

  • @Lou7575
    @Lou7575 Год назад +1

    THE BUFFALO CITY COURT BUILDING!!!!!! I walk by that every day!! Awesome shoutout.

  •  Год назад +3

    *Gasp!* Spacedock finally has Legend of the Galactic Heroes clips! ❤

  • @frankryan2505
    @frankryan2505 Год назад +1

    I remember "architecture" in a Iain M book..the naval architects at their wits end because the big bad wanted these massive/impressive halls on his flagship.."what about the bulkheads?'

  • @anon_y_mousse
    @anon_y_mousse Год назад +3

    If I ever make a sci-fi themed game, your channel will probably have been the inspiration.

  • @abbiearcher4716
    @abbiearcher4716 Год назад +3

    If you want a building that looks like a Spaceship, look at the Scott Monument in Edinburgh, which is rumoured to be the inspiration for Thunderbird 3.

    • @hoojiwana
      @hoojiwana Год назад

      I think it's also the inspiration for the ship at the end of the video!
      - hoojiwana from Spacedock

  • @red_cosplay
    @red_cosplay Год назад +2

    6:15 when I look at it from this angle, it's actually like a GTD Orion (Freespace)

  • @jermiahduddleston4695
    @jermiahduddleston4695 Год назад

    I worked in Devon Tower in OKC for 5 years and every single day I walked into it I imagined it as a ship. It is spectacular.

  • @DigitalJedi
    @DigitalJedi Год назад +4

    I've taken a lot of inspiration from structuralism and brutalism in my ship designs, as well as radio towers. Another place I've taken inspiration from is PCB design for some things. I'm just generally a fan of hard lines and angles, and functional looking utility in designs. Modern warships, and especially US and Chinese air craft carriers, are the sort of look I end up with. Big, flat-sided low-poly looking bricks of steel with girders and greebley turrets and antennae sticking out of convenient places.

    • @bugfisch7012
      @bugfisch7012 Год назад

      "I'm just generally a fan of hard lines and angles, and functional looking utility in designs."
      So basicly "Bauhaus" Design/Architecture? I would argue, that most of the SW Empires Design follows the Bauhaus design school. Wich is not too suprising, since the empire is kind of influenced by Germany in the early 20th century^^
      The German Tank museum just had a lecture, that (and why) the Tiger Tank is basicly a "Bauhaus" Tank.

  • @ranger_8717
    @ranger_8717 Год назад +4

    The ship from Harlock Space Pirate was quite gothic too.

    • @ranger_8717
      @ranger_8717 Год назад +1

      @@Eliphaser Yeah, I meant that weird cgi one

  • @DocWolph
    @DocWolph Год назад +1

    Aside from B5, that one spacedock scene in the Orville (featuring "The Spirit of Fire"), and maybe parts of "Star Wars", I do not recall any franchise/universe have a broad number of ship styles despite having numerous species interacting with each other who would have differing aesthetic, technological/technical, needs/functionality, and cultural biases to direct how they would design their ships. I DO NOT merely mean that every species has their own signature style, Starfleet vs Romulans vs Cardassians vs Klingons, et al. But they you have military ships looking vastly different from freighters, from civilian transports, from government non-combat vessels, and so one and then divided by class and function because they need to, to do their often very different jobs.

  • @zenebean
    @zenebean Год назад +1

    Holly Jencka's art is just the kind of vibe I've been looking for in ship design! I love how it has both the elegant wing-like radiators and a core inspired by cathedrals without looking overly fragile.

  • @anemoneyas
    @anemoneyas Год назад +1

    It's a station rather than a ship, but the Talos 1 from Prey (2017) is a fantastic example of this with it's unique futuristic spin on art deco both inside and out.

  • @sargon6000
    @sargon6000 Год назад +5

    What about ships shaped after guns, knives and other random tools?
    Like the Sulaco from Aliens, that looks like a shotgun or assault rifle.

    • @weldonwin
      @weldonwin Год назад +2

      There was a ship in the game Sword of the Stars, that was a planetary bombardment dreadnought, armed with a massive spinally mounted mass driver, loaded from a revolver mechanism, so you have this huge multi-kilometre long Six-Shooter

  • @DolusVulpes
    @DolusVulpes Год назад

    Besides architecture, another source of inspiration I really like seeing in sci-fi vehicles is nature. A lot of animals have body plans that work really well when translated to spacecraft and transport ships, particularly among insects, birds, and sea creatures. Similarly, a lot of plants and fungi, and certain molluscs, have body plans that could translate to very nice looking space stations, while still being incredibly defensible.

  • @sony.walkman
    @sony.walkman Год назад

    Well of course! On the topic of this, another reason to look into skyscrapers and tall structures for inspiration, beacause the load on the structure during acceleration makes the ship essential stand on the ground, having the same architecture load as a tall building

  • @ImperatorZor
    @ImperatorZor Год назад +1

    Augustine Mouchot was a french inventor commissioned by Emperor Napoleon III of France who developed the first solar power system in the mid 19th century. It involved a dish a mirrors which was aimed at the sun and reflected light towards a central boiler. It worked, but was not really practical given the expense.

  • @merafirewing6591
    @merafirewing6591 Год назад +4

    Maybe I'll go full Naval in sci-fi with some Aircraft mixed in. Space Battleship Yamato would be my inspiration for design style.

  • @padawanmage71
    @padawanmage71 Год назад +3

    The Eagle fighters from ‘Space: 1999’ also have their own design aesthetic, especially with the external girders around the main module.

    • @weldonwin
      @weldonwin Год назад

      Really, the Eagles were taking their design cues from actual space craft. I mean, they are very much what now gets called NASA-Punk, and are a pretty realistic design

  • @TotallyNotAFox
    @TotallyNotAFox Год назад +1

    If I create spaceships in games or as concept art for reference, I always tend to orientate the design on straight daggers and swords to get a cool looking design that's practical. (The Arquitens-class light cruiser from Star Wars is something I really like)

  • @jakobschoning7355
    @jakobschoning7355 Год назад +7

    That moment when you claim that you cant see any gothic styling on a 4km Ship after talking about Warhammer, where some of the flying cathedrals are ridiculously huge with over 20km on the biggest ones

    • @Raygun9000
      @Raygun9000 Год назад +2

      Depends on the author! But 8km minimum is an accepted Battleship length. You do have the mega stuff from the heresy however (is any of that stuff still around in 40k?).

    • @ledocteur7701
      @ledocteur7701 Год назад +3

      the difference is that 40k ships are basically upscaled version of the smaller ones (whish isn't a critic btw, I did the same thing in my sci-fi setting.), so the details are still easily visible, were as that 4km ship has details that are the same size as they would be on a much smaller vessel, so it just kinda blends in and isn't as obvious anymore.

    • @Tullaryx
      @Tullaryx Год назад +2

      @@Raygun9000 If you're talking about the Gloriana-class battleships that each Legion had then yes, some still survive right up to 40k. Then there are the Ark Mechanicus ships that blends both Gothic architecture and the brutalism style mentioned in the video. Ark Mechanicus shap 8-10 km long with some the size of an entire continental plate (Speranza).

    • @Raygun9000
      @Raygun9000 Год назад +1

      @@Tullaryx there's always the Ramillies starforts. They are mobile(kinda). A ludicrously massive abbey complex.

    • @Tullaryx
      @Tullaryx Год назад

      @@Raygun9000 As big as they are, Glorianas can take them out due to the Astartes they have on-board just boarding them. Also, some Glorianas have the one weapon even Aeldari and other races fear: Nova Cannon.

  • @wiaf8937
    @wiaf8937 Год назад

    That background tune is super driven, I love it.

  • @Tangoram
    @Tangoram Год назад +2

    I hve a fantastic book. Called "Spaceships by Chris Foss". He was the designer of a lot of ships especially for the "Dune" Movie which was never made.

  • @aruspice
    @aruspice Год назад

    Big ups for mentioning the Nostalgia, one of my favorite ships in sci fi

  • @Aederex
    @Aederex Год назад +3

    Not architecture, but in a similar vein there's the art of Eric Geusz, who makes gorgeous spaceships out of ordinary object like can openers, ice cream scoops, electric razors, etc. There's a LOT of thought and effort that goes into making commercial products look appealing to consumers, and that translates remarkably well to spaceships.

    • @jacksonhoiland2664
      @jacksonhoiland2664 Год назад

      Wow, this just kickstarted my imagination and it actually seems like it could lead to really cool designs. Thanks for the ideas.

  • @sylak2112
    @sylak2112 Год назад +1

    I think the Forerunner ship at the center of High Charity should have been mentioned. It look a bit of a mix of Eiffel towel and the shanghai one. On a smaller scale, that could totally be a wera real and weird tower/buidling build in a current city to attract tourist.

  • @Josua070
    @Josua070 Год назад +2

    I'm really hoping you'll do a deep dive into LotGH: Die Neue These ships. I mean, you're featuring them quite a lot in your recent videos, so I really want to see a video about them. And I'm requesting this since most that does LotGH-related vids are usually talking about the series itself, or about the ships but in Japanese.

  • @SymbioteMullet
    @SymbioteMullet Год назад +1

    Remember the Alliance warships from Firefly? An angry cityblock in space!

  • @lewismassie
    @lewismassie Год назад

    4:50 Don't think I've heard many people talk about Revelation Space. Hugely underrated

  •  Год назад +1

    ALso thanks for mentioning Nostalia for infinity...
    It is my absolute all time favorite ships of any kind, litterally the most amazing thing to happen to scifi universe imo, from its name, hard scifi elements,its capabilities, its crew, its weird affliction and crazy captain, and transformation... That shit is underrated as fuck.

    • @anticlaassic
      @anticlaassic Год назад

      Not to mention the cryo-arithmetic engines and hypometric weaponry. (Also bladder mines bc funny name)

  • @anticlaassic
    @anticlaassic Год назад

    The nostalgia for infinity is probably my absolute favorite interstellar Starship of all time. The idea of a ship big enought to have whole derrilict partitions that are like the wilderness in more than a few ways is just sooooo incredible.

  • @robertlavery6896
    @robertlavery6896 Год назад +1

    My favourite ship design is usually just the brick design, Halo's Pillar of Autumn for example.

  • @IrugaZERO
    @IrugaZERO Год назад +1

    Nice touch using the Everspace soundtrack for this one!

  • @grahamstrouse1165
    @grahamstrouse1165 Год назад +1

    Now I want to see the Sydney Opera House fitted with an FTL drive & a super laser.

  • @TheTrueAdept
    @TheTrueAdept Год назад +2

    Depends on the style of universe you're going for, really. If your spaceships are basically produced like _cars_ then you'll need to minimize the flashiness of the designs if you're using more 'traditional' production methods, to give an example.
    While the settings I'm working on don't have that level of production, they tend to be very 'plain' compared to others. A spaceship every few months at war-pace is pretty quick compared to most.

  • @canti288
    @canti288 Год назад +6

    Can I just say, your vids are what I've been looking for on youtube for a long time. Mostly because they discuss topics that are on the Atomic Rockets website, and more short form than Isaac Arthur who is also an awesome content creator. Getting into the gritty detail that others just glance over, and not skimping on crucial elements like heat management and what truly impacts a ship

  • @resurgam_b7
    @resurgam_b7 Год назад

    Mercury City Tower transforming into the UNSC Mercury was too perfect!

  • @eazy8579
    @eazy8579 Год назад +1

    I’d love to see a ship drawn from Greco-Roman Gallies and Norse Longships; I feel like that would be pretty cool

  • @LeoFieTv
    @LeoFieTv Год назад

    The Outer Worlds has a lot of Art Deco and Art Noveau going on in it's design and does a Firefly with it, combining it with realistic and practical stuff as well as soulless corporate design.

  • @iamjoeysteel
    @iamjoeysteel Год назад

    Like how Dune uses the reason that personal shields are so good that melee is what is most effective, I'd love to see a SciFi space ship lore use the same reasoning. Like shields and maneuverability are so effective at the long distances that you have to get pretty close to do any real damage.

  • @Numba003
    @Numba003 Год назад

    I watched The Black Hole recently, and while I did enjoy the spooky ship design, I was pretty underwhelmed by the movie as a whole. Thanks for another nifty video!
    Merry Christmas out there everybody! ✝️🎄

  • @commandoepsilon4664
    @commandoepsilon4664 Год назад

    8:49 That ship looks amazing! It's like Big Ben grew wings and is coming to kill you! I love it!

  • @joelker41
    @joelker41 Год назад +1

    I really enjoyed the Behemoth/Novu from Expanse and Asari dreadnoughts from Mass Effects for symbolism and design. Great ships as well.

  • @everything-narrative
    @everything-narrative Год назад

    I like explicitly taking the rank hierarchy names from the Air Force, and using air force nomenclature for unit organization (wings, squadrons, etc.) Also if I'm writing hard sci-fi, the ships are flying skyscrapers and combat happens at thousands of kilometers.

  • @henryfleischer404
    @henryfleischer404 4 месяца назад

    I like the idea for using art deco inspirations for ships. Maybe I'll make the fusion powered League Of Nations ships in my game have that style. The older, Orion drive powered ships have a design based only on practicality, basically a giant pistol bullet covered in radiators, PDCs, and missiles, with the engine at the flat end, and a railgun sticking out a few degrees off of straight ahead. The whole ship was painted bright yellow to denote it's allegiance.

  • @tylerritchie2736
    @tylerritchie2736 Год назад

    One of the things I love about Starfinder is how wildly varied its ship designs are.

  • @terranempire2
    @terranempire2 Год назад

    Suddenly I imagine the Chrysler building as a VIP transport floating across the stars gracefully drawn by solar sails

  • @arsmariastarlight3567
    @arsmariastarlight3567 Год назад

    Bentusi vessels from Homeworld series is a good example of spaceships inspired by buildings, especially their tradeships, with internal cavity literally lined with bright neon lights and Japanese-esque malls of Akihabara
    Talos-1 station from Prey is literally retro skyscrapers as gigantic space station

  • @Potrimpo
    @Potrimpo Год назад +2

    The funny thing is you mentioned the engines being away from the habitable sections of the ship. And seeing the warp drive away from the rest of the ship on Star Trek.

  • @JustAnotheNeoSilver
    @JustAnotheNeoSilver Год назад

    Had to chuckle when you mentioned using broadcast towers as inspiration. The little known BBC series Hyperdrive actually did just that, basing the HMS Camden Lock (and its sister ships) on the BT Tower in London.

  • @Rasc0117
    @Rasc0117 Год назад +3

    Shout out to the channel Morphologis where he, a real life architect, has a series where he reviews ships from Star Citizen.
    Star Citizen might be a controversial game but they know how to build ships. If I want to go on a space adventure, it would be onboard the 400i or the Mercury Star Runner.

  • @charleybabb3223
    @charleybabb3223 Год назад +1

    Art Deco is great, and given that it was directly inspired by streamlined vehicles, it makes sense to have it in spaceships

  • @dantetre
    @dantetre Год назад

    It was good to hear the Everspace music again in the background. :D

  • @vast634
    @vast634 8 месяцев назад

    Representing SciFi crews to be organized like naval crews is pretty realistic. The way naval crews work came out of necessity to operate a multi crew ship far away from the homebase.

  • @Edge-wx7hv
    @Edge-wx7hv Год назад +1

    TranStar Station from the new Prey is quite an excellent application of Art Deco style, though being a space station its a bit more of an actual office tower but in space.

  • @thecruzking
    @thecruzking Год назад +2

    i've always like the Art-deco/city of tomorrow look (like the look from the animated superman show.) i'd love to see a star ship inspired by that look.

  • @lachlanpollard5938
    @lachlanpollard5938 Год назад +1

    was surprised no mention of the big ships in Jupiter ascending, basically a big church in space used as a church

  • @machcrs
    @machcrs Год назад

    The alliance from firefly has awesome ships that look like buildings or cities. Love those

  • @hawkticus_history_corner
    @hawkticus_history_corner Год назад +2

    40k does this. If the ship is huge and you're gonna live on it for literal years, make it look nice. And by nice I mean a Gothic church

  • @adamcraig7842
    @adamcraig7842 12 дней назад

    Some of the houses designed by architect Charles Deaton look like flying saucers, but, at the other end of the spectrum, Star Trek Discovery features some distinctly Gothic-looking Klingon ships, like the Cleave Ship and the Sarcophagus Ship. It would be nice to see more ship designers take inspiration from yurts, teepees, and the like, as such structures are lightweight enough to move easily but strong enough to stand up to extreme conditions, just like a good spaceship should be.