How to wear a Toga - Dr Mary Harlow - University of Leicester

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  • Опубликовано: 21 сен 2017
  • le.ac.uk/history-and-archaeology
    Dr Mary Harlow, Associate Professor of Ancient History at the University of Leicester, describes how a Roman Citizen would have put on and worn their Toga.
    Dr Harlow's research interests focuses on dress in action: in understanding the varied source material (archaeological textiles, iconography, literary and documentary writing) to build a picture of the effect of dress as worn.
    She is interested in how dress is used to display status, gender, age, ethnicity and identity generally, and how that identity is negotiated through the Roman social system.
    This clip was produced by Strategic Marketing and Communications at the University of Leicester to support the outreach programme of the School of Archaeology and Ancient History. We are working in partnership with Classics for All to champion Classics in schools (classicsforall.org.uk/regiona....
    Further resources for teaching ancient Rome can be found at: www2.le.ac.uk/departments/arc...
    Costume made by Christine Labrom
    Filmed, Edited and Stills Photography by Carl Vivian
    Produced by Dr Mary Harlow, Jane Ainsworth and Dr Sarah Colley

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  • @AvivSharon
    @AvivSharon 5 лет назад +636

    When the professor mentions "slaves," is she referring to graduate students? 😜

    • @pianoonparade
      @pianoonparade 3 года назад +34

      Very accurate term 😂

    • @redhidinghood9337
      @redhidinghood9337 3 года назад +10

      When she said the slaves will put the... I was like ummmm....????

    • @chelseawilson7723
      @chelseawilson7723 3 года назад +20

      @@redhidinghood9337 Because slaves are who would have dressed the citizen. It's a reenactment.

    • @redhidinghood9337
      @redhidinghood9337 3 года назад +6

      @@chelseawilson7723 Yeah I know it was just weird to hear someone say that to a person today

    • @와레인뎁
      @와레인뎁 2 года назад +8

      Is it worldwide common sense that graduate students are slaves? haha

  • @kevinmencer3782
    @kevinmencer3782 2 года назад +65

    "As you can see, the slaves..."
    "I think you meant student volunteers."
    "No, I had it right the first time."

    • @1906Yogi
      @1906Yogi 5 месяцев назад

      It is a reenactment.

  • @amna989
    @amna989 5 лет назад +260

    I like the facial expression of the man. :D

  • @leonardodantas4577
    @leonardodantas4577 3 года назад +212

    This video was provided by the Capitoline fraternity and cakes by the Guild of Millers, the guild uses only the finest grains. True roman bread for true romans.

    • @babitayadav4806
      @babitayadav4806 3 года назад +10

      The fake Millers import all the wheat from Egyptians these days how is that going to make true roman bread!!

    • @pharmika
      @pharmika 2 года назад +4

      Underrated comment.

  • @miaodu1695
    @miaodu1695 5 лет назад +206

    How come men don't wear tunics and belts combo today? I really love the simplicity.

    • @iamcleaver6854
      @iamcleaver6854 5 лет назад +45

      Same here. It would be perfect for mediteranian climate. Hell. It would be a relief here in Moscow during the summer.

    • @theshoeburger
      @theshoeburger 5 лет назад +41

      Just like they stopped wearing togas in the past, other clothes are more practical and comfortable. Trousers and a shirt might be barbarous but they're great clothes! You'd also get a lot of odd looks...

    • @Leon-zu1wp
      @Leon-zu1wp 4 года назад +2

      Looks gay. That simple.

    • @ChromeMan04
      @ChromeMan04 4 года назад +3

      Madoob trousers look barbarous? I guess half the world is “barbarous” now. Also togas look gay and would look something women would wear

    • @SonofSethoitae
      @SonofSethoitae 4 года назад +86

      @@ChromeMan04 That was a history joke, since the Romans considered pants a barbarous garment. As for togas looking "gay", bit of a stupid comment.

  • @user-gv8mp5xr8v
    @user-gv8mp5xr8v 4 года назад +50

    this video saves my life lol. It's hard for me to understand how to wear the toga until I saw this video

  • @Jinseual
    @Jinseual 6 лет назад +214

    Posing like a true Roman citizen.

    • @theoBaba773
      @theoBaba773 2 года назад

      The Muslims do it every year in their visits to Saudi Arabia... Prophet Mohammad started the tradition... look it up

    • @theoBaba773
      @theoBaba773 2 года назад

      Ff to 1:35
      ruclips.net/video/GQ-DTeaUnWE/видео.html

    • @muhammadksatriaakbarariend8684
      @muhammadksatriaakbarariend8684 2 года назад +1

      More like the upper class toga is more like a formal uniform than a everyday cloth

    • @ChromeMan04
      @ChromeMan04 Год назад +5

      @@theoBaba773 that’s not a toga lol

    • @Nathan-jt8zt
      @Nathan-jt8zt 6 месяцев назад

      @@theoBaba773whatever

  • @jackjones298
    @jackjones298 3 года назад +100

    This feel rather intrusive watching my friend Biggus Dickus getting dressed.
    He has a wife you know...

  • @johnnyblues777
    @johnnyblues777 2 года назад +20

    Thank you for posting this. Now I can command the armies from my bedroom wrapped in a bedsheet.

  • @kathleenfarris8710
    @kathleenfarris8710 3 года назад +7

    Most authentic toga wrapping video on you tube.

  • @dane4kapuse4ka
    @dane4kapuse4ka 11 месяцев назад +9

    "you can see the slaves prefolded the toga" bit got me giggling

  • @LelaosXVI
    @LelaosXVI 3 года назад +19

    He seems to be happy in life.

  • @ph11p3540
    @ph11p3540 4 года назад +20

    Airline pilots never wear togas. They press it in the Boeing airliner cockpit. TOGA is a bright red button beside the throttles that stands for Take Off Go Around.

  • @girlfrombookland
    @girlfrombookland 3 года назад +11

    The guy was enjoying the vibe of Ancient Rome 😂

  • @annaliseshaffer998
    @annaliseshaffer998 Год назад +1

    Great video!! So excited to wear it to work for Decade’s Day!

  • @tomkot
    @tomkot 4 года назад +68

    How do you prevent the cloth going over the left shoulder from falling off? Sure you could walk like a statue all the time - but didn't the Romans use togas also during lively or even wild dinner and wine drinking parties?

    • @RubioNegroZaravia
      @RubioNegroZaravia 4 года назад +72

      In very specific circumstances it could be secured using a “Gabine cinch”, and if not, the friction of the wool fabric rubbing against its own layers helped hold it in place. But the fact is that togas did sometimes fall off (for example, a manual for lawyers even states that only a lazy lawyer will leave his toga if it falls off in the beginning of a speech). Romans had a love-hate relationship with the toga, and usually only wore it when they absolutely had to. It was a very symbolic garment but not particularly practical.

    • @tanosway3470
      @tanosway3470 2 года назад +28

      @@RubioNegroZaravia Could it be said that the toga was like the suits of today? I mean, a formal garment that is not always the most comfortable and that is used only in important situations. No lawyer would go to court without their suit, but the rest of the time you will find them wearing casual. I suppose it was the same with the Romans.

    • @Mattdewit
      @Mattdewit 2 года назад +12

      @@tanosway3470 We always have to be carefull when we compare the past to the present but in a sense yes. Juvenalis even joked that in Italy the only time people would still wear the toga is at their funeral (Juv. Sat. 3. 170-175)

    • @faithonkwok3912
      @faithonkwok3912 Год назад

      @@tanosway3470 true

    • @ae3qe27u3
      @ae3qe27u3 Месяц назад

      It changed in popularity over time, but the main aspect is the wool. If you've ever felt wool, you'll know that it's a but scratchy. That texture (which is from grippy bits on the individual sheep hairs) creates a good amount of friction in the cloth. The umbo, that fold, has enough friction that it acts like a clasp, holding the toga in place.
      Also, as someone who's worn a makeshift toga from basic cotton, they hold together better than you'd expect. You might need to adjust once or twice during the day, but they really aren't bad.

  • @Belleplainer
    @Belleplainer Год назад +4

    I wonder if there will be instructional videos 2000 years in the future to demonstrate how we wear jeans and a t-shirt.

  • @alexbastrykin6148
    @alexbastrykin6148 3 месяца назад

    that's very interesting. thank you!

  • @tatomallo289
    @tatomallo289 4 года назад +18

    ah, thank you for wearing a tunic underneath!

  • @user-nk8of7kv7u
    @user-nk8of7kv7u 4 года назад

    Thank you

  • @user-el9os9pk7x
    @user-el9os9pk7x 3 года назад +15

    Have any Universities done a video on the Greek chiton? Particularly the sleeved one as seen on the Alexander sarcophagus? I can’t find anything AT ALL on this type of chiton... :(

  • @jetpackcat2103
    @jetpackcat2103 5 лет назад +13

    all i need is a bed sheet

  • @rubyxyc
    @rubyxyc 3 года назад +14

    I wonder if they draped it across the right arm for those who were left handed, or if the lefties had to make do and follow the norm?

    • @lb8739
      @lb8739 3 года назад +11

      Fun fact romans actually didn’t like left handed people and forced them to write the other way. So they had to follow the norm

    • @clairesteinman1232
      @clairesteinman1232 2 года назад +8

      ​ @L B is right. The Latin word for "left" is "sinister."

    • @whiskeyvictor5703
      @whiskeyvictor5703 2 года назад +2

      @@clairesteinman1232 The Sinisters are the only ones in their right minds! 😄

    • @HO-bndk
      @HO-bndk Год назад +2

      Julius Caesar was a lefty. On statues he wears his toga the same as anyone else.

  • @NativeLibyans
    @NativeLibyans 6 лет назад +31

    in Libya some people still wear this type of clothing.

    • @mariamomar123
      @mariamomar123 5 лет назад

      really? came from Lybians

    • @mariamomar123
      @mariamomar123 5 лет назад

      or Romans?

    • @another90daystochangethis34
      @another90daystochangethis34 5 лет назад +9

      +Mariam Omar It came from the Romans.
      But like the OP says, some people in Libya still wear a toga. Even Muammar Gaddafi wore togas.

  • @koenmoulton3277
    @koenmoulton3277 Год назад +1

    Ima wear this to school someday

  • @ordershrubbery6290
    @ordershrubbery6290 6 лет назад +7

    University of Leicester hi iam intrested in the dimensions of the toga itself can you please provide me with further information?

  • @hanelyp1
    @hanelyp1 9 месяцев назад

    - Tucking the ends around each other over the shoulder, making an overhand knot, would make the toga more secure with minimal impact on appearance.
    - I've seen tents (used by backpackers) with less fabric.

    • @Alayne89
      @Alayne89 3 месяца назад +2

      Part of it is that you are displaying wealth. It's the fact you can afford so much extra material, which would have taken weeks or months to weave. There is so much material that it has to be bunched up and pleated. It's so much material that you need to be able to afford to buy/pay someone to help you get dressed in it. You are rich enough to not need to do manual labour, because you can't do much physical movement in the toga. You can afford a carriage or equivalent, because you can't walk far in it.

    • @ae3qe27u3
      @ae3qe27u3 Месяц назад

      ​@@Alayne89you can walk fairly well, but pretty much everything else is fairly reasonable. It's the ancient Roman version of a 3-piece suit. You aren't going to be doing farmwork in a jacket and tie.

  • @muyvello4646
    @muyvello4646 2 года назад +1

    what kind of fabric do you use?, i would like to do tha :)

    • @blujay868
      @blujay868 Год назад +2

      Wool is historically accurate. Linen or cotton is a reasonable alternative if wool is too heavy or warm. I would recommend lighter weight wool.

  • @crossfirepower414
    @crossfirepower414 3 года назад

    i will wear this when i travel there

  • @lordmaximus5
    @lordmaximus5 2 года назад

    Id wear one of these today

  • @timetraveltvniles7650
    @timetraveltvniles7650 3 года назад +8

    Bring back the Toga!

    • @theoBaba773
      @theoBaba773 2 года назад

      The Muslims do it in their Hajj visiting to Saudi Arabia every year

    • @medasyraf1342
      @medasyraf1342 2 года назад +3

      @@theoBaba773 They copied

  • @cyranova9627
    @cyranova9627 3 года назад +2

    I think is name is Naughthius Maximus

  • @toastmachine3226
    @toastmachine3226 3 года назад

    I have to do this for school 😭

  • @petbird19
    @petbird19 2 года назад

    But, how did they do it?

  • @theepiccommenter7833
    @theepiccommenter7833 3 года назад

    Cool

  • @moongripper
    @moongripper 3 года назад +1

    where does one buy togas?

    • @Xavanteex
      @Xavanteex 2 года назад

      I too wonder this.

    • @neonicecube908
      @neonicecube908 10 месяцев назад

      buy some fabric and cut the bottom 2 corners round @@Xavanteex

  • @cal_m15
    @cal_m15 3 года назад

    Came to learn about togas, stayed for the unintentional ASMR

  • @samithelegendarygamer1211
    @samithelegendarygamer1211 3 года назад +1

    why we even search this

  • @timothyedward6147
    @timothyedward6147 4 года назад +3

    I use my paludamentum as a toga lol since its peace times...

  • @randomnamesoicanfindmyself3123
    @randomnamesoicanfindmyself3123 4 года назад

    Didn't the romans wear exomie chitons? (if that's the right word)

    • @zarsiw
      @zarsiw 3 года назад

      i don't know what exomie is but i believe chitons were only worn by the greeks

    • @Mattdewit
      @Mattdewit 2 года назад

      The chiton was adopted by the Romans and renamded the tunica. The model is wearing that in the video as the toga was usually worn over a tunica.

  • @MrShanester117
    @MrShanester117 3 года назад +13

    It’s weird that we collectively decided that kitchen tablecloths were fashion

    • @ae3qe27u3
      @ae3qe27u3 Месяц назад

      The thing is, if you go back to ancient days, you wanted to do as little sewing as possible, because every stitch had to be done by hand. If you wove a big flat sheet of cloth, you didn't have to sew it if you didn't cut it (you have to hem every part that you cut out so it doesn't fray to pieces). We see this in ancient Egypt, ancient Rome, ancient Greece, ancient India, all over the place. I believe ancient China as well, though I haven't done as much research into that. I'm also not sure if the Norte Chico (or older) people have remaining ancient clothes, I'll have to look into that.

    • @ae3qe27u3
      @ae3qe27u3 Месяц назад

      Think of a knitted scarf. If you cut it, you'll have to stitch up the edges to keep it from coming undone. But if you can just kinda drape it, then hey, minimal work. Some cultures used clasps or pins, some didn't. Note that the tunic underneath is stitched together on the sides.

  • @EconaelGaming
    @EconaelGaming 2 года назад

    Why does your example roman look dead inside?

  • @publius1776ad
    @publius1776ad 6 месяцев назад

    considering that very thin merino wool is 150 grams per square meter and 15 meters at that thickness would be 2.25 kilograms, and that I'm pretty sure Romans didn't have access to merino wool, they were wearing a lot of mass in those togas. It sounds like they would be very unpleasant to lug around.

  • @sindobrandnew
    @sindobrandnew 5 лет назад +4

    Way smaller than I thought to be.

  • @jaybirdcanadian
    @jaybirdcanadian Год назад

    Wait till Biggus Diccus hears about this!

  • @carrot7512
    @carrot7512 6 лет назад +2

    Yèeeeeeee

  • @job341kg
    @job341kg 2 месяца назад

    Очень странно. :) Какая неудобная, но при этом колоритная одежда.

  • @Arisrein
    @Arisrein Год назад +2

    Vsauce, Michael here

  • @theelysian1172
    @theelysian1172 Год назад

    Am I weird for wanting to dress in ancient style clothing?

  • @whiskeyvictor5703
    @whiskeyvictor5703 2 года назад +1

    I think I'll stick with a Great Kilt.

  • @jadenephrite
    @jadenephrite 6 месяцев назад +2

    Veni, vidi, vici.

  • @sargonofakkad860
    @sargonofakkad860 3 года назад +1

    Just in case i hv to tie a toga in future

  • @HeartSlayer0416
    @HeartSlayer0416 5 лет назад +1

    The Romans where clean shaven why did he have a beard. But the beard is really well kept. It just broke the immersion a little. Beard is nice tho

    • @sotony7483
      @sotony7483 4 года назад +17

      Depends on the period. Beards were rare in late republican period (1C BC) and in early Empire (1C AD) but common from the reign of Hadrian (early 2nd century) onwards.

    • @Mladorossi_Bulgaria
      @Mladorossi_Bulgaria 4 года назад +3

      Beards were also popular during the kingdom.

    • @alfredospautzgranemannjuni5864
      @alfredospautzgranemannjuni5864 3 года назад +1

      Were*
      And no. The beard is either a sign of barbarism or knowledge . The elderly, the philosophers and mathematicians would use their beards as a sign of intellectual superiority.

  • @manuelkong10
    @manuelkong10 11 месяцев назад

    everybody always has stripes on their tunics

  • @cemreomerayna463
    @cemreomerayna463 4 года назад +11

    A complete waste of fabric is the cost for being a real Roman

    • @carsarthu
      @carsarthu 4 года назад +5

      Says a person who lives in a world where fast fashion is a thing lol

    • @cemreomerayna463
      @cemreomerayna463 4 года назад +2

      ​@@carsarthu Chill out dude, I am sitting with my 5yo shirt and it's still 2020.

    • @carsarthu
      @carsarthu 4 года назад +4

      @@cemreomerayna463 The idea that a 5yo shirt is an old shirt is exactly what fast fashion is lol

    • @cemreomerayna463
      @cemreomerayna463 4 года назад +3

      @Arthur Monteiro Pal, you're taking a joke too serious. It's just interesting to me that wrapping a 2.5m long pure fabric alone was an identity of the most famous empire since its existence. Otherwise I don't give a damn about how much resource they are wasting.
      Me wearing an old stuff (sure there are different reasons than being 5yo to call a shirt old) was opposed to their habit of clothing and to the idea of fast fashion together. I agree that today's ever changing fashion is a cause for the same problem I indicated, but still there are much more people caring less about what current fashion dictates and more about their pocket and environment. At least in my sphere there are many people using / sharing with each other the same clothes for years.

    • @carsarthu
      @carsarthu 4 года назад +5

      @@cemreomerayna463 I'm not taking it too seriously, you're the one who just wrote two paragraphs about it lol
      I'm not calling YOU out, specifically, I'm just pointing out that our society is tremendously more wasteful than the Romans (or any ancient civilization), by any criteria.

  • @misslotalotus1500
    @misslotalotus1500 2 года назад

    I realize there is somewhat similarity between how to wear togas and how men muslim wear ihram clothes when they pilgrimage to Mecca doing Hajj..eventhough Ihram clothes are not that long and big, but the way it was folded and how the right shoulder should have shown..there also shouldnt be any pin or sew..

    • @medasyraf1342
      @medasyraf1342 2 года назад

      Islam copied from Roman

    • @ChromeMan04
      @ChromeMan04 Год назад

      Hajj clothes is based off Somali clothes

  • @rnilu86
    @rnilu86 3 года назад

    That guy looks like Marcus Aurelius

  • @rohitjain6616
    @rohitjain6616 2 года назад

    @1:20 we live in 2022

  • @pantera9442
    @pantera9442 3 года назад +7

    This man isn’t a true Roman - only barbarians wear beards! (I’m just kidding)

  • @acash93
    @acash93 4 года назад +1

    Toga party

  • @ROBERTOCARLOSVEN
    @ROBERTOCARLOSVEN 5 лет назад +17

    I'm glad they chose a guy with Mediterranean features, if they put a guy with blue eyes and blond I would have given quite a laugh LOL

    • @iamcleaver6854
      @iamcleaver6854 5 лет назад +13

      That guy is what a phoenician would look like. Romans were Indoeuropean so you could easily meet blue eyed romans. Look at modern italians. They don't (mostly) look like that.

    • @amna989
      @amna989 5 лет назад +6

      This type is very common in my country, and we are Europeans too. I have dark hair, brown eyes, but my mother is a blue-eyed, blonde woman. My father is from southern part of Europe. Southern Europeans (for example, Italians) are not a blue-eyed, blonde people. Most of them are Mediterranean type, like this guy. But there are blue-eyed Italians too, naturally. As a minority. Europeans not meant blue eyes, blond hair, very light skin.

    • @mehitabel1290
      @mehitabel1290 5 лет назад +2

      It's not as simple as that.

    • @user-gk8vb6dl9l
      @user-gk8vb6dl9l 5 лет назад +1

      Southern Italians are racially unpure due to the moors.

    • @nokiaarabicringtone1418
      @nokiaarabicringtone1418 4 года назад +3

      @@user-gk8vb6dl9l How about you read a history book you fucking troglodyte?

  • @DarkComputerGirl
    @DarkComputerGirl 6 месяцев назад

    Anyone think it still doesnt look right?

  • @brianp6682
    @brianp6682 4 года назад +1

    video begins at 0:21

  • @ChromeMan04
    @ChromeMan04 Год назад

    Gaddafi would sometimes rock a toga

  • @TheBurningWarrior
    @TheBurningWarrior 3 года назад +3

    Servi? Servi non est, sed ancillae. Ancillae plicuit togam.

  • @abdelsalamomran1591
    @abdelsalamomran1591 Год назад

    The only people still wear the Roman Toga is Libyan it's a national dress till today

  • @juanjosanjuan2329
    @juanjosanjuan2329 5 лет назад

    Molt be!!!

  • @alvarorubenvera5915
    @alvarorubenvera5915 4 года назад

    He looks like Fredo lolz I thought he was dead

  • @kimper_ayqpa
    @kimper_ayqpa 3 года назад

    Ropa igual a griegos y monjes budistas

  • @eventfulnonsense
    @eventfulnonsense Год назад

    Our "citizen"? Nope, only nobles and aristocracy wears a toga. And the "pocket" is ready to hide a dagger for killing an emperor 🤣

  • @lakhbinderjitsingh7795
    @lakhbinderjitsingh7795 Год назад

    🌍 IMEG blue robe wide arms open IMEG on hilltop heaven's had made historical effect on population of 🌍 ok

  • @ghostinnit8445
    @ghostinnit8445 3 года назад

    Oh fuck wrong toga

  • @Ramsez
    @Ramsez 4 года назад +4

    I don't think this is very well done. Also the beard is considered quite barbaric, except in some periods.

  • @kkallebb
    @kkallebb 6 лет назад +14

    THe professor needs to do more research. This in not really how a toga is draped. It was a little more complicated than this, and the result was more elegant. The magisterial study of draping the toga Lillian May Wilson, A Study of the Roman Toga, John Hopkins, 1924. This professor needs to read it.

    • @touch_of_cobalt
      @touch_of_cobalt 5 лет назад +22

      It's a good thing we have youtube commentary to correct people with multiple degrees in a subject.

    • @nostalgiaprogramming9993
      @nostalgiaprogramming9993 5 лет назад +41

      I can assure you that this professor is familiar with that work and have read more than you. While L.M. Wilson's work is informative, it is what is regarded in the field of dress studies as costume history. Its objective was to recreate the toga for theatrical and artistic purposes as many of the writers were in fact actors. It involved a lot of guesswork as the Romans did not leave any detailed instruction on how to drape the toga. The closest would be Quintillian's work but then again, it talks about how one must act when wearing the toga. Perhaps it is you who needs to update your bibliography. There are at least two decades worth of papers for you to catch up on. You can start with Cleland et al (2007) Roman Dress from A to Z and make your way through Harlow (ed) (2017) A Cultural History of Dress and Fashion: In Antiquity. There you will learn a lot of new knowledge that has since superceded May's.

    • @vidiia
      @vidiia 5 лет назад +21

      @@nostalgiaprogramming9993 wonderful to see such a properly academic beatdown in a RUclips comment thread for once.

    • @nokiaarabicringtone1418
      @nokiaarabicringtone1418 4 года назад +7

      @@nostalgiaprogramming9993 Good God, you killed the poor bastard!

  • @ashokkumarkrishna5186
    @ashokkumarkrishna5186 6 месяцев назад

    Good thing see had white students...😂 even then they're face frowned a little...

  • @Psycho_Tank
    @Psycho_Tank 2 года назад +1

    Well professor, seems you got that video you so wanted posted the excitement your excreting can be smelled over the video. Your students, however must have hated your controlling ways in production off camera. Their level of excitement is, for the children I’ll keep it PG, lacking. Thanks for the share of knowledge though.

  • @saydah1533
    @saydah1533 3 года назад

    TOGA HIMIKO

  • @bonkersmcgee4356
    @bonkersmcgee4356 3 года назад

    Seems like the worst possible way to wear clothing.

  • @sureyeahwhynotamiright8226
    @sureyeahwhynotamiright8226 4 года назад

    “togur”

  • @zamination3450
    @zamination3450 3 года назад +1

    This is not mha

  • @mike_nolan
    @mike_nolan Год назад

    This was the equivalent lf those stupid lookong dinner jackets rich people wear. Even more formal than suit and tie.

  • @timothyedward6147
    @timothyedward6147 4 года назад +2

    I use my paludamentum as a toga lol since its peace times...

  • @timothyedward6147
    @timothyedward6147 4 года назад +2

    I use my paludamentum as a toga lol since its peace times...