The fact Johnnys fatal blow can get turned into a counter and is completely unblockable and he can dash out of it immediately if you manage to avoid it I’m not a fan of nerfs but something has to happen to this character
It’s only unblockable if he charges it up all the way. You just have to have good spacing if he wifs and you can punish. And if you get behind him while he’s doing it it’s full combo. Untill they need him (hopefully to the ground) I think that’s all you can do.
@@divinety102 thank you. I was actually thinking of playing him before the game came out but after playing so many Johnny’s just face rolling the controller I don’t want to anymore. I made it to god rank in KL and Johnny players get ridiculous up there
If he charges it you can jump over it and hit him from behind. If he dashes out you can punish the dash. This is not the problem with Johnny. The problem is that he has fast movement speed, quick startup on all his strings, he is not punishable on his strings and he converts off anything.
So pretty much, there's no way to beat him unless you get lucky and or zone him. Gotchya. This game has really pissed me the hell off with how broken Johnny is
Watching this post patch where Johnny is now without question the best character in the game. I’m not exaggerating when I say 75+% of all KL players are using Johnny right now. He’s just so cheap to use with how many + frames and mix ups he has, and if you get hit once you’re trapped in a corner for the rest of the round.
I hate playing against him his moves are cheap asf, i play about 20 johnny cages every time i get on and i probably win around 2 of those 20 im not bad at mk im ranked god rn and every time its jc ik im gonna lose because his repeated staggers eventually get me when i try and poke my way out . I play aa liu kang mostly and he cant hit fast enough after a poke when playing against a johnny cage. Something needs to be done about him. He needs a nerf.
I main Mileena and RECENTLY have been having the same issue . Her pokes ARE fast but Johnny still manages to beat me in the poke war . Ik his mixups as if he's my main bc I've seen them so much , but can never punish him or break his pressure once he starts . @@alex-nq9xd
Dude, jonny is such a pain to play against as shang. I just run fireball run run run fireball run run run. Kinda crazy since shang struggles to punish anything against a good jonny.
In this game, I feel like you should have to work for your plus frames utilizing your Kameos and staggers, and using mental advantage and what not, rather than just being given them off the jump like with Johnny. Doesn't make sense why he's one of if not the only character who can just hold forward and pressure you like that with no Kameo or resources like it's MKX or some shit. He's hella cheap. I feel like most of his plus moves should be 0 on block at most instead. -1 even. But I'd take 0. At least you'd have a chance.
Most of my losses come from back stepping zones or characters with a teleport. I hate chasing to eat a kameo, projectile, or for them to teleport and start the chase again
Thank you Father Dink. I've having trouble against Smoke and Mileena too. Maybe it's because I play online but the mix they have feels IMPOSSIBLE to deal with sometimes.
Nowhere near the options that Johnny has though. It’s ridiculous how many god like strings dude has. By contrast, Liu’s F4 stagger game isn’t even close to what it was in MK11 (who remembers when it was a 9f mid?). The last part is also minus (but with decent pushback midscreen) and can be flawless blocked fairly easily. And unlike Johnny, Liu’s F43 stagger gets blocked and it’s basically turn over. After that, he’s got 5 high starters and zero low/overhead starters. Even Johnny’s minus strings feel plus 😂
Aboot. Gotta love Canadian about pronunciation. Also with Johnny Iv found a lot of things that can be interrupted that’s probably best way to beat him, knowing when you can hit him mid move
How do you escape Johnny cage? In most fighting games there’s push back on plus frames and that’s how you get out of someone abusing plus frames but in this game you don’t budge. He’s just always plus in your face
@@shujinkydink Johnny sucks I got to learn him just to beat him 😭 he’s going to end up being my 3rd main just like Sindel was in mk11 because no one knows how to deal with their abuse
One of my biggest issues right now is it seems like my armor does nothing. I just get single punch jabbed through my armor all the time. It feels bad and makes no sense to me. It happens in general, it happens when doing armor wake up. It happens all the time. For me against Cage, as a Shang main, they usually can deal with the straight fireballs. Just gotta keep em away.
I’m with you. I can’t stand the fact that only some characters have double hitting moves that break armor. It makes waking up impossible. Give them to everyone or no one.
He's so fucking cheap. Literally backs you into the corner in 5 seconds and you can't even block because all his strings mix high and low. He's a scrub magnet
Glad to see you practicing and mastering all of Shang Tsungs transformation powers, way to kill two birds 🦅 with one ☝️ stone. this will make your Shang a cut above the rest. Great Johnny tutorial by the way
I’m being serious, scorpion is the one fighter in online play I haven’t beaten! There have been some close losses too. After getting rocked by so many Cages right at launch, I slowly learned his strings the hard way (getting launched constantly) and now I win vs him all the time! 50/50 vs baraka Starting to win more vs raiden It’s scorpion and Kenshi I cannot win vs
There isn’t much you can do about a good Kenshi. You have to look for a gap to armour through if they mess up the ghost (sento stance). But kenshi literly has a hapless block infinite, where you are forced to block until you tech/stop a throw. Time how long Kenshi’s ghost is out for, when it runs out, they (the opponent) will usually throw you to reset pressure.
dont get y u force that pronunciation of 'about' so hard, its clearly not how u speak, genuinly takes me out the guide with cringe. crazy how 'about; is the only word u prnounce the o/u differently and only the only word u pause after saying every single time as if ur thinking about how u said it lmao. jesus just realised u do this on every video
you taught me frame data in injustice 2 and now you will be teaching me how to deal with the most annoying char ever 5 years later omg 🥳
You still learning the mu, I'm rusty on several matchups.
I feel im still trying to learn lol but at least the game is fun this time around.
play against raiden or milienna lmao jhonny is nothing against raiden or miliena
@itzcomedyss4086 I beg to differ I've won all my match ups against those 2.....but got absolutely wrecked by the couple of cage's I've come across.
@@itzcomedyss4086cope
The fact Johnnys fatal blow can get turned into a counter and is completely unblockable and he can dash out of it immediately if you manage to avoid it I’m not a fan of nerfs but something has to happen to this character
It’s only unblockable if he charges it up all the way. You just have to have good spacing if he wifs and you can punish. And if you get behind him while he’s doing it it’s full combo. Untill they need him (hopefully to the ground) I think that’s all you can do.
@@divinety102 thank you. I was actually thinking of playing him before the game came out but after playing so many Johnny’s just face rolling the controller I don’t want to anymore. I made it to god rank in KL and Johnny players get ridiculous up there
If he charges it you can jump over it and hit him from behind. If he dashes out you can punish the dash. This is not the problem with Johnny. The problem is that he has fast movement speed, quick startup on all his strings, he is not punishable on his strings and he converts off anything.
I could say the same for every character that is fucking op
Cage is always that character that people go to when they are getting their ass whooped and need a broken char to abuse
So pretty much, there's no way to beat him unless you get lucky and or zone him. Gotchya. This game has really pissed me the hell off with how broken Johnny is
Watching this post patch where Johnny is now without question the best character in the game. I’m not exaggerating when I say 75+% of all KL players are using Johnny right now. He’s just so cheap to use with how many + frames and mix ups he has, and if you get hit once you’re trapped in a corner for the rest of the round.
Facts. Hate playing against him.
I hate playing against him his moves are cheap asf, i play about 20 johnny cages every time i get on and i probably win around 2 of those 20 im not bad at mk im ranked god rn and every time its jc ik im gonna lose because his repeated staggers eventually get me when i try and poke my way out . I play aa liu kang mostly and he cant hit fast enough after a poke when playing against a johnny cage. Something needs to be done about him. He needs a nerf.
I main Mileena and RECENTLY have been having the same issue . Her pokes ARE fast but Johnny still manages to beat me in the poke war . Ik his mixups as if he's my main bc I've seen them so much , but can never punish him or break his pressure once he starts . @@alex-nq9xd
Dude your the goat , I been watching you since mortal Kombat x and injustice 2. You the man. Thank you for all you do man .
I relly needed this and one for everyone. Like a how to punish guide
me too
Bruh..Johnny literally has a option select and multiple option selects FOR ALL of his strings, AND 90% are safe. Bro is broke.
Dude, jonny is such a pain to play against as shang. I just run fireball run run run fireball run run run. Kinda crazy since shang struggles to punish anything against a good jonny.
Use morph and outplay him
I hate nerfing characters, id rather just buff others but damn... just too many things that are safe with johnny... it definitely needs looked at.
In this game, I feel like you should have to work for your plus frames utilizing your Kameos and staggers, and using mental advantage and what not, rather than just being given them off the jump like with Johnny. Doesn't make sense why he's one of if not the only character who can just hold forward and pressure you like that with no Kameo or resources like it's MKX or some shit. He's hella cheap. I feel like most of his plus moves should be 0 on block at most instead. -1 even. But I'd take 0. At least you'd have a chance.
i cannot explain how helpful these guides are
Johnny seems overwhelmingly busted. The only thing he’s really missing is a projectile which he doesn’t need
He just needs Kano, Sarena, Kung Lao, Sektor, Cyrax or Sonya and problem solved.
I'm definitely watching this after work, keep up the much needed content boss.
Most of my losses come from back stepping zones or characters with a teleport. I hate chasing to eat a kameo, projectile, or for them to teleport and start the chase again
Best advice when fighting against Johnny Cage: DON'T GET HIT.
Literally man 😂
just flawless him got it 👍
Facts
Thank you Father Dink. I've having trouble against Smoke and Mileena too. Maybe it's because I play online but the mix they have feels IMPOSSIBLE to deal with sometimes.
agreed smoke has a fair few gaps and up blocks and mileenas main string is flawless blockable for full punish. hope that helps
I'd rather fight 20 Johnny than one Baraka
Can relate to that😂
Then you haven’t found a good Johnny yet who abuses his plus frames..
@@hands-ongaming7180 yepp,,just sit there and block😂..which is very annoying and boring
@@dartawnasailo4449 sit and block if you’re lucky. Sit and watch yourself get combo’d for 30 seconds if you’re not 😭
@@hands-ongaming7180 i wish my boy scorpion would be better than his current state
In short: Johnny’s safe always. Sneak a low-1 in between combos and use armor after he’s hit you enough to gain meter. 😮💨💀
DINK YOU ARE A KING! THANK YOU
When u start blocking you already lost against him. This man needs some nerfs
3:04 the most Canadian moment I've ever seen on this channel😂
They really got the skin for the guy they made the game after and made him the best character in the game
it's like once you get hit by Johnny once you're trapped unless you find a window to armor
You have to do one with the Liu kang kicks , forward 4,3,4. I played a guy who did this over and over and I couldn't get a turn.
Shit is ridiculous 🤦🏾♂️
Nowhere near the options that Johnny has though. It’s ridiculous how many god like strings dude has. By contrast, Liu’s F4 stagger game isn’t even close to what it was in MK11 (who remembers when it was a 9f mid?). The last part is also minus (but with decent pushback midscreen) and can be flawless blocked fairly easily. And unlike Johnny, Liu’s F43 stagger gets blocked and it’s basically turn over.
After that, he’s got 5 high starters and zero low/overhead starters.
Even Johnny’s minus strings feel plus 😂
You might be right but johnny cage needs a nerf first for suree .
You need a million subs for real
Ur so clutch 😄👌💯
The one and done wi-fi Johnny. The greatest villain of all. Thanks for your input on this Dink.
Finally, blasted salami quality for NRS, TY
Your mk9 Quanchi was the GOAT
Aboot. Gotta love Canadian about pronunciation. Also with Johnny Iv found a lot of things that can be interrupted that’s probably best way to beat him, knowing when you can hit him mid move
Can you do a video of how to deal with johny cage and kung Lao
shoutouts to the deer just eating, im in canada too haha
More kombat league?
How do you escape Johnny cage? In most fighting games there’s push back on plus frames and that’s how you get out of someone abusing plus frames but in this game you don’t budge. He’s just always plus in your face
Gotta pick the right time to poke out of pressure
@@shujinkydink Johnny sucks I got to learn him just to beat him 😭 he’s going to end up being my 3rd main just like Sindel was in mk11 because no one knows how to deal with their abuse
content of my dream
thanks
Need to know how to fight Johnny Cage with Johnny Cage, the mixups are definitely annoying
These are great, keep it up please.
One of my biggest issues right now is it seems like my armor does nothing. I just get single punch jabbed through my armor all the time. It feels bad and makes no sense to me. It happens in general, it happens when doing armor wake up. It happens all the time.
For me against Cage, as a Shang main, they usually can deal with the straight fireballs. Just gotta keep em away.
I’m with you. I can’t stand the fact that only some characters have double hitting moves that break armor. It makes waking up impossible. Give them to everyone or no one.
What about Johnny Ultimate?) How to deal with this thing?
The only one solution in my experience - just using projectale
Jump over him and hit him from behind.
Yeah just back up and shoot him, easy. You can also combo break fatal blows after they've connected if you really have to.
2 weeks late here but Foxy Grandpa has been playing Kitana as a keep away.
Johnnys been rekking me , very topical video ❤
Thank your for this tutorial
thank you im tired of getting killed by a tbagging johnny + cyrax anytime i press kasual online
Keep away works on him. Make him do that kick an be prepared for it
Nice vid bud
johnny no kameo is hard to deal with, johnny with fucking kung laou feels like an mkx character leaked through to mk1
He's so fucking cheap. Literally backs you into the corner in 5 seconds and you can't even block because all his strings mix high and low. He's a scrub magnet
How do you deal with the fatal blow in the corner?
Jump behind him lmao
Now all I need is a counter to Smoke and I'll be in business
/watch?v=eUzBOFfifPY
I'm so tired of this kind of character that allows a player to do literally anything they want with no risk or whatsoever.
Exactly, he breaks through all my armor moves too. He is way to safe
Yesssssssss i need this
I hate how young shang gets cool colors but old shang sill still have default
Some skins Old Shang change the color too
@@JosephDGuedes yeah buy not this one I checked
The palettes change both
@@Zeke210x not every palette does you can check for yourself
@@LilYungGrabBagJr my young shang wears white & red my old shang wears white & Gold. But I'm also using the titan skin from the story
This is great, I main Johnny Cage
Better a deer outside your window than a moose!!
Big facts!!
Glad to see you practicing and mastering all of Shang Tsungs transformation powers, way to kill two birds 🦅 with one ☝️ stone. this will make your Shang a cut above the rest. Great Johnny tutorial by the way
Speaking of shang tsung? Do u have a vid on him? Lol
After forward 3 you can instantly press 1 and interrupt him
Wait so if he tries to finish the string u can hit 1 ?
My bad. Its only possible if he does forward 3, 4
How to beat Johnny, Be lucky, end of video. I feel like Johnny is the cheapest character in the game right now.
I hate crying "overpowered" but man Johnny is just too good rn
Haha had to stop to point out the deer
The knee Attack Is used to get close to the oponent infact Jump option don't work but my head don't work too😔😔😔
I just win with throws, I bet they get pissed when I just throw them, but it pisses me off more that they can defeat you with 2 combos.
Is this a Cage guide?
Besides countering with grab, are there other ways of dealing with Johnny's back forward 4?
If you block it you ll surely have enough time to punish it with a combo. When I see a Johnny, I want him to do that attack in order to combo him.
He will definetly be nerfed along the way
I need this video for scorpion!
I’m being serious, scorpion is the one fighter in online play I haven’t beaten! There have been some close losses too. After getting rocked by so many Cages right at launch, I slowly learned his strings the hard way (getting launched constantly) and now I win vs him all the time!
50/50 vs baraka
Starting to win more vs raiden
It’s scorpion and Kenshi I cannot win vs
Really? Scorpion sucks in this game
@@Nerevar5me just hold down block he only has 1 overhead string
@@yousefmerchak532 I’ve gotten a lot better Vs him since then. I actually hope he uses his overhead so I can upblock
@@Nerevar5meglad to hear Goodluck
Lol gave johnny that mkx frame data 😂 I know it's not for but his pressure is nasty
Reikos stars and slide are necessary for Jonny lmao
The literal only thing I hate about Johnny is that he was UNLIMITED 50/50'S THAT ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO GUESS 💀
And they are basically all plus 😃
@@Spiderdude21you can mess up once against him and boom there goes 30% of your health MINIMUM
My friend kill me just with chip damage
can u do for baraka
Johnny is broken for NO reason.
This video is all “ABOOT” Johnny cage
9 frame mid, Jax F,3,3 vibes
Dude has no right being that plus
Can you do an options video about kenshi? I got destroyed by one and as soon as his stand thing comes out it's ggs lmao
There isn’t much you can do about a good Kenshi. You have to look for a gap to armour through if they mess up the ghost (sento stance). But kenshi literly has a hapless block infinite, where you are forced to block until you tech/stop a throw. Time how long Kenshi’s ghost is out for, when it runs out, they (the opponent) will usually throw you to reset pressure.
@@triple_r_va oh damn so patience is the key ? Thank you!
I hate versing johnny cage, smoke, reiko. I saw the smoke video but his overhead low mixup is just too fast for me.
🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
His 50 50s are broken. If there is someone here who can block them every time, pls tell me how to do it.
I think you can fuzzy block one of them I'm not sure how to do it perfectly though
@@ChimpRevolution I have learned that from a video yesterday. Thank you anyway!
He has all this to balance out that he doesn’t have projectiles…..in a game where you can call someone to throw them out for you. Smh
Johnny is broken.
Playing against Jonny is just holding block
D1 spam always an option 😂
this character is so broken, plus frame 50/50 into more plus frame 50/50 into grab into plus frame 50/50
🌧️🌧️🌧️
How about Mileena? Struggled the most against her so far.
4 months later and he’s still the cheapest character in the game
Nah I just fight the biggest camper ever
Another annoying character is General Shao
Strongest and most annoying 😂
Aboot.
🙎🙎🙎
dont get y
u force that pronunciation of 'about' so hard, its clearly not how u speak, genuinly takes me out the guide with cringe. crazy how 'about; is the only word u prnounce the o/u differently and only the only word u pause after saying every single time as if ur thinking about how u said it lmao. jesus just realised u do this on every video
It's not that serious man
get a job
@@aden.e projection?
Dumb character, he looks like the most boring character in the game
I played him for fun really easy combos not too fun to preform. However his down back 1 is really fun to land
worst tutrial ever, talkin 15 nib showing 1min
I learnt nothing but its fine