René Meulensteen CLAIMS The Netherlands Would BEAT England If They Played In The Semi-Finals 😮😬
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
- Jim White and Alex Crook talk with René Meulensteen. Rene claims that England would be knocked out if England faced the Netherlands in the semi-finals.
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5:45 I'm sorry, Holland made the 2010 WC finals with a team with Sneijder Robben and van Persie. Same team 3rd in 2014. You can't just skip that generation of players Mr. Meulensteen.
He also skipped the Bergkamp era squad.
Absolutely, the 98 team was filth. If they won the penalties with Brazil that team could have possibly done France in the final.
@@Devypocalypse Holland got f*kd by FIFA appointing a ref from the UAE
They were decent but not Golden Eras, to use that term. It's 14 years since sneider world cup and they have done badly in the euros for a lot longer.
The current Dutch team is nowhere near the top level 2010 2014 team people forget they didn't even qualify for the 2018 world cup.
The Dutch have nearly always been better than England
Yeah, other than one day in 1996. England have been a bad team for most of the past 50 years.
@@theproperenglishmanNah in recent years, England has been better.
@@AJ-nd4nk yes, better results under Southgate for sure
@@AJ-nd4nk on paper they are. In tournement not really
Such bullshit@@theproperenglishman
Dutch man speaks better English than most of the English team
LOL
Especially mush mouthed Kane.
He speaks really good English
99% of Dutch speak really perfect English.
He worked 12 years in England and now 6 years in Australia
"Where have you been the last 16 years!" - World Cup Final, World Cup Semi-Final, World Cup Quarter Final, EURO Quarter Final + Quarter Final this year with more loading.
Don’t forget the final of the nations league
It always strikes me that people from the UK pay very little attention to their closest neighbour. They're not that interested. English in general have, like people from the US, little interest for other nations and if, they tend to see them as adversaries.
@@mariusb5150 Agreed from Germany. The US even started to built a wall and said Mexico is going to pay for it. PS: felon citizen Trump said it famously
@mariusb5150 true, the English think they are superior.
These are indeed very impressive achievements and to not forget they also reach the Finals in the Nations League 2019. The Netherlands🇳🇱 is a solid Team with a lot of surprises.
they had a great team in 98 .
Came here to say this!
My god I was depressed for years I didn't watch football after that team lost.
Perfectly symetrical. The entire left side was left footed the entire right side right footed. Wim Jonk was a maestro. Philip Cocu played every position from stopper to attack. Most versatile player the game has ever seen. The De Boer twins were magnificent. Edgar Davids was out of this world. 1st half played Brazil off the park. My problem was Kluivert. He had to miss about 10 before he scored 1. And that didn't work when R9 is the opposing striker. 1in1.
That is for me the biggest dissapointment ever (after the 70s). Even more than the final in 2010 that I visited. Spain was just better. But in 1998 we were really good! That team was a combination of the Ajax 95 squad plus players like Bergkamp and Jonk (that left Ajax few years before 95).
@@Giusie79 I hear you.
@@user-kt2zx4iv4f I do think that Kluivert/Bergkamp was the last proper attacking duo we the Dutch had. From there on we been struggling to put on two attackers that could work that well together.
Honestly Holland should have a couple of titles. 1974WC, 1978WC. 2000 euro, 1998 WC, 2010 WC, 2014WC.
Reine sounds like he’s literally from down the road from me😂always fascinating listening to someone from different shores speaking English so perfectly
Actually the Dutch had four golden generations:
1. 74-80: Cruyff, Neeskens, Rensenbrink, Krol, Van Hanegem, Rep, Van der Kuijlen
2. 88-94: Gullit, Van Basten, Koeman, Rijkaard, Wouters
3. 97-2004: Seedorf, Kluivert, Davids, Van der Sar, Bergkamp, Overmars
4. 2004-2014: Robben, Van Persie, Sneijder, Van der Vaart, Van Nistelrooij, Van Bommel
This generation is not (yet) golden but as a team capable of quite a bit: Van Dijk, Aké, Schouten, Van de Ven, Reijnders, Veerman, Frenkie de Jong, Depay, Zirkzee, Malen, Gakpo, Dumfries, Frimpong... there is a lot of football in this team
Agree with your 4 points. The last part I don't agree. This generation doesn't have top players like the other ones. Only De Jong is world class and maybe van Dijk.
@@hette457
Agreed. But players like Gakpo, Reinders and Schouten, vd Ven have a lot of top potential. plus Ake, van Dijk qnd De Jong. And lets not forget the brothers Timber.
Nah man, look at the players of those 4 generations you just named, and then look at the current team. There is no Robben, no Kluivert or Bergkamp, let alone a Gullit, Van Basten or Cruijff.
It’s a very mediocre squad. They had one good game against Romania. That’s it. They could reach the final, because this half of the draw is weak, but whoever they would face in the final would be strong favorites.
@@hette457
*_"Only De Jong is world class and maybe van Dijk.."_*
Too funny. De Jong is not world class at all. Look at DeBryune, that's what I consider world class. Neither is van Dijk
Bergkamp, Kluivert, Van Persie world class? Get real. Ronaldo, Romario, Ronaldo (Brasil), Pele, Gerd Muller, Puskas, Eusebio, Distefano, etc... those were/are world class strikers.
You mention Krol, he was not a world class defender, Cannavaro, Baresi, Cafu, Pyol, Beckenbauer, Maldini were.
95% on that list is nowhere near world class.
@@monza8844 You should never be allowed to give your opinion about football ever again. All professional players would disagree with you. Low iq individual. 😂
It’s not exactly the biggest claim ever. Most teams will beat the bunch of headless chickens. Cannot fathom how we’re favourites against the Swiss. No chance.
Because Swiss don't beat England
people have been saying england have no chance all tournament and they're still there
@@matthewjackson3408they beat Italy, England didn't last time.
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Not much longer.
@@user-mq4hr1ly4b True, but there is one sure thing about luck is that it will change. I hope you’re right to be optimistic but nothing in the way they’ve played makes me think they’re suddenly going to be good enough to win 3 straight games against better opposition than they’ve faced so far.
Sad that Rene fails to reflect on the team in the late nineties. In 1998 we could have won the WC, but it was an incredibly tough competition with powerful Brazil, Argentina, France... in 2000 out on penalties against Italy in the semis. This team in the Euros 2024 doesn't have the peak quality of previous generations, but I feel the opposition is less now too, so this might be a chance for the Dutch to get lucky and seemingly this is already happening (progressing while 3rd in group, light round of 16 to build confidence, better side of the roster etc). In a final it's anyone's game, it's about getting there and the door is wide open.
Partly agree, but the toughest opponent they will face in the final. That was different in 88 when they eliminated the favorites in the semi finals. I could see them get passed Turkey and even England. But France, Spain, Portugal in the final, idk. A bridge too far i think
Holland 98 was unlucky at WC and the lost to Brazil in semifinal but they’re the better team
Should have gotten a penalty when Van Hooydonk was fouled in the box
@@jroskott Yes, the Dutch were robbed in that game. But Zidane's France would have been a formidable opponent in the final. They destroyed Brazil.
@@harmjava , I don’t know about destroying Holland in the final . It would have been closer game than the Brazil. With the Ronaldo fiasco, It impacted the team and they didn’t show up
This weakest Dutch team since mid 80th
@@jroskottlike they would score the penalty 😅
Kluivert header vs brazil to send game to extra time 1998 was first time i ever screamed running out and around house uncontrollably.
Rene killing it with that Uniqlo shirt 😂😂😂
welcome to uniqlo.
He's absolutely right as well
Jude Bellingham produced a "David Platt" moment v Slovakia. It should galvanise England when they take on Switzerland although it is Gareth Southgate so dont expect too much.
It will be a Spain v Holland/Turkey final. Mark my words.England will be beaten by Switzerland on Saturday
can’t argue with that.
Music to my ears
Don’t write us off yet !!!
Turkey? 😅😅😅
Spain v Netherlands would have me reliving traumas from 2010
Rene is far much better candidate as coach for your team than Hasselbaink, seriously if he is the attacking manager , he should be firstly fired million years ago
attacking manager comes under the manager, and what the manager wants goes. It is like asking the firing of a ministry and not the PM; because a country is run badly.
Overconfidence is the biggest problem of the Dutch team. And I’m Dutch, I know. Trust me
that's not a dutch man that's a scot 🤣
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The teams need to play the quarterfinals before there is even a chance of a Netherlands-England semi-final. Meulensteen gave a good analysis. As he said, quality Dutch player material has been lacking at times (1980-82, 2006-2008, 2014-18), and Austria showed just a few days ago how the Dutch team can cave under pressure. But in some years the Dutch underperformed because the national team coaches were below par. It is a small country, yet the Dutch football association is reluctant to bring in a foreign coach, or a Dutch coach that doesn't hail from Ajax, Feyenoord or PSV. Danny Blind (Daley Blind's father) is just one example of a coach who had no proven record, but led the national team for quite some time, with disastrous results. How is Koeman doing? I personally think he is a fine coach, but not flawless.
Dutchman supports his own national side in Euros shock....
To be fair there are many English people critical of Southgate as they have not been playing wonderful football have they? So it is not a shocker to not support the English national team.
As a Dutchman I would say both teams are amazing and I do hope to see a great football match. ps And I do hope the Brits will join in with the Dutch left/right dance. Just for fun. Let's through a party nobody forgets.
Theres no counter press because depay walks around like hes 39 and named ronaldo. He doesnt participate so there really is no point in pressing with the centre forward standing still
get a clapped out Kane to try and play a pressing game ......
A ball to Memphis is giving the ball away. He never does anything with it other then giving it to the oppposite side. I hope they skip him in all the attacks and rather be egocentric then play it to him. The Dutch play with 10 as long as Memphis is playing. After all these years he still has not figure out to keep things simple and he is not Messi/Ronaldo.
Netherlands '98 - 00 were practically an All-Star team, even better as a team than the 88 who had better individuals on 4 players (the Milan trio + Koeman). They lost only on penalties both from Ronaldo's Brazil and the demi-god performance of Toldo with ultra-defensive Italian in Euro 2000 semi (and can't convert 2 penalties in normal time).
At this point Joe Biden could put 5 past "England"..
Thank god for Rene's English :D
At the bigger games, Holland really misses De Jong to cope with deep line pressure. Veerman and Reijnders are okay, but not top level.
Reijnders is better than Rabiot for example.
Reijnders us great but Koolmeiners is the best.
Reijnders are okay, but not top level? Don't make me laugh.
@@bartobruintjes7056 watch more Seri A kiddo
Its not coming home! Not coooooming home! Not coming home! Iiiiiiiitttsss nooottt cooomingggg homeee!!
where is Simon Jordan and Alex Crook now saying Austria would get to the final😂😂😂😂
The biggest choke of all time on the part of the Dutch was the Euro 2000 semifinal against Italy. Completely dominant performance creating chance upon chance against Zambrotta, Maldini, Nesta, etc,, getting two 100% penalties in regular time, only to miss or find the Italy goalkeeper Toldo in the way. And then losing in the penalty shootouts. We really should have played France in the final. Euro 2012 opening game against Denmark is a close second. I don’t think England has ever choked on that level. Agree with the claim though.
This is nothing personal but I have found some of the England games not very good.Holland are a pale imitation of the great sides and players they once had.If they meet then anyone could win but Switzerland are a very good team.They may not have lauded players but they have a good coach and they are a team.
France have not scored a normal goal yet the match before the euros started 0-0 against Canada the opening match against Austria it was a own goal from Austria against the Dutch they did not score against Poland they scored a penalty kick and against Belgium it was a own goal again so will they score against Portugal.
2010 WC repeat final Spain vs Holland and the Dutch look hungry every game they've played.
It's the beauty of a tournament you will never know what the other oponent is really like as it is hard to really know how strong the other teams are. As a Dutchman I certainly hope we get to face them. But Frankly the result is second to me, as long as they fight well I am happy. Austria game never again
Cruyff teached us how to beat English teams. These days they play a little different but many times it still works when the quality if players is not too far of each other.
Come on Switzerland!!!!!!!!
In a tournament a team usually has 1 bad game. Holland have had 1 out 4, England have had (at least) 3 out of 4. So, Holland have played better than England, therefore they would be favorites.
And he’s right 🎉
Rene is right!! 14 juli finale!!!! 14= Johan Cruijff... finale is Holland - Spain no doubt about it and Marco van Basten is the analist of the game Holland- England😮!!!
I wouldn't count my chickens. This England team has all the makings of a team that plays what looks like bad but somehow seems to get thru. They have been doing that since 2018. It is so because they can defend and gives up very few chances. Its not pretty but its effective. And they have had a little luck which is needed. I am not saying they will win the trophy but you write off Gareth at your own peril.
Their biggest problem is goals. Without Sterling they have no creativity. The last Euro he was responsible for 7 goal scoring opportunities out of 11 that took them to the final. Since his departure no one has stepped up.
Hard to believe this guy is actually dutch when he pronounces all the names wrong and calls us holland
It's not like Muelensteen is saying anything outlandish. It's the Netherlands for goodness sake not Luxembourg.
The Dutch are 10 times better than the English.
Probably true. Netherlands will beat England unless England get their heads out of their backsides and do what they are paid to do. Perform.
Having watched all the teams:-
Most likely final - France vs Holland ...France will be the eventual winner.
England will defeat Switzerland but will lose to Holland.
Thank me later!
Germany will make the finals. Holland has had an awakening...
lottery numbers for saturday?
The Swiss will give England a massive contest...but Holland have a cutting power..
That is a great call
@swan-oq8qk the winner of SPA vs Ger, will be defeated by France in the semis. What's being stated here is the permutations of eventual winner and not stated the "best team"... you can play well and still lose a match, now I guess you've got the message.
If you ask a Dutchy a question you get a honest answer.
Your F1 media colleagues have a hard time dealing with it
Rene Meulensteen begrijpt het. Morgen eerst die Turken voor ontbijt, midweeks tegen de Engelsen als Lunch en het diner Duitsland
Spanje
Of course they would. Southgate is the luckiest manager to ever manage at international level.
I heard he is the best paid manager at the Euros and I am not sure this is true. But I don't see why they pay him so much....
2000 we also deserve to be EK champion with bergkamp,kluivert,overmars, brothers the boer etc… we lost against Italië in the semi final butt we were much better. We missed alot penalties
I don't care if the analysts have big mouths as long as our players stay humble and focussed, then great things can happen
What about WC 2010 and 2014? Euros were bad but final and a third place in WCs is not a bad performance.
Final Holland vs France
The 2010 generation might have been better than the 1988 generation.
No way
@@docholiday-lm4vf Robben, Sneijder, van de Vaart en van Persie in their prime together with van Bronckhorst, Kuijt, van Bommel and Nigel de Jong. All playing for European top clubs.
not even close. Lets be honest, in 2010 it was horrible to watch. Yes they got to the finals, but thats about it. There's a recap of the 1998 Wc on youtube. Go and watch the games against Argentina & Brasil. They were really amazing some times
No way dude that 98 team was I believe the best Dutch team ever!
Im sorry to be criticizing you mate, but as a Dutch man I have to say you are seeing it completely wrong. Marco van Basten alone was a 3 time Ballon D'or winner
Let's see what happens Wednesday.
Without De Jong and Koopmeiners, their midfield looks very vulnerable.
LOL
@@jens2049 What is there to LOL about? They have a world class defence with Van Dijk, Ake, De Vrij, De Light, Dumfries. They definetly have a better defensive halve versus England and even Spain. Only France could say their defenders are on par with the Netherlands. Also Verbruggen is a great Goalie and has the potential to be as good as Van der Sar.
The midfielders on the other hand should be of a great level with Frenkie De Jong and Koopmeiners. But without those central 2 who bring so much balance, that is their real weak spot.
Attacking halve isn't great either, but with Gakpo and Malen. They again have good potential and both very fast wingers.
No it's fair to say, if anyone wants to see the Netherlands undone. You are going to have to break them in midfield.
All of the teams left in beat England as weal see Saturday when the Swiss 🇨🇭 knock us out
Netherlands winning in Germany is written in the stars. 🇳🇱
Germany’s biggest rivals lifting the trophy in their own backyard would go down like a lead balloon in Germany - also Switzerland winning it they wouldn’t like.
England Germany biggest rivals
Germany England is bigger
@@joshuaadjekukor9914 Germany are not that interested in England as a rival..Dutch is bigger
@@joshuaadjekukor9914 might want to brush up on your history, Germany and Netherlands are bitter to each other. Easily each others biggest rival.
1988 rerun
It feels like a semi of 3 🦁 v/s Oranji is inevitable. England will win.
We wouldnt and tbh : we will probably lose against the Swiss.
I think it will be spain or switzerland
Netherlands ranking is 7th. Which might be lower than England, but i think its close. 50/50. Both teams have their problems… who gets away with it?
Germany v Holland final. Bookmark it!
Lol.
Spain, weren't any better than Germany Germany, were the better team overall.
@@garywallace5602 maybe but they lost soooo
We Could instead of Would
the guy on the left assuming england will be in the semi final. Let them beat switzerland first. Tough opponent
Memphis is a free agent. Strolls around. Did not tear the trees up at Manchester United.
Holland would do better to play a forward who moves around.
tHis guy is not soo clever.... van Gaal....Champions leage 1995
Meulensteen 5:53 : “Holland used to produce footballers that always went to big clubs & big leagues, that has fallen to the wayside a little bit”
Uhm… Gakpo, Gravenberch, van Dijk (Liverpool), Aké (Man City), de Ligt (Bayern München), Frimpong (Leverkussen BL winner), de Jong (Barcelona), Maatsen & Malen (Dortmund), Depay (Atletico), vd Ven (Spurs), de Vrij, Dumfries (Inter Milan), Reijnders (AC Milan)…
Come on René, with your experience and knowledge you should know better.
I’m not too sure to be honest. England is absolutely not convincing. I even doubt they will beat Switzerland. The same goes for us. We can also lose against Turkey. And even if both teams will make it, it’s 50/50 in my opinion.
You heard it here first, Turkey will eliminate the Dutch making this entire conversation redundant. England will get past the Swiss and reach the semi finals against Turkey and win that, thus reaching the final. England will play most likely Spain in the finals but maybe Germany. Whoever it is England will lose against.
Turkey (they want us to call them Turkiye from now on) play with their hearts, but it isn't a great team. If the Netherlands continue to draw lessons from their defeat against Austria, they will get past the Turks.
Turkey is sooo weak. Will be 5 or 6 null.
Netherlands vs Spain final
i totally agree with Rene, but lets face it apart from 1988(when the dutch won the european championship in munich on my birthday) we lost alot of WC finals(1974/1978/2010) dissapointing indeed and at many other worldcups or EC s we were eliminated by the later champions (argentina a few times) but look at the UK team always star quality players(big country big competition) and they always majorly dissapoint (they only won once worldcup on hometurf back in 1966 after a dubious goal against west germany) and the performances of uk team has been much worse than the netherlands team(only 1 bad game against austria) i see the following scenario they wil beat turkey 3-1 than beating suisse 2-1 AET and as typical dutch we will loose out in the final against Spain (again as we did in wc final 2010)
England needs to see if they can beat switzerland first cus im pretty sure they can't
I think they would beat England at least they have good tactics and know how to attack we have a head less chicken who could not manage a KFC
4:53 Who pulled up that silly statistic and brings it forward like this? Holland haven't made it to the last day of a European Chanpionship in 16 years? And now they have in Germany? The last day? Really? What did he even mean? Passed the groupstage? But then 16 years? WTF!
Also if we are asking this question: where have England been these 16 years? Have they done better?
Holland would spank England? Sorry, what he meant to say was that Holland would spank Switzerland!
How long did he last as head coach? 😂
Fully agree but we won't beat switzerland
England , did they even win ever this tournament? They are now playing terribel
Is coming home englan😮,with which players, foden?
Holland is a county on the western coast of the Netherlands. Its like saying do you fancy Berkshire or England to win it.
There isnt a county called Holland in The Netherlands.... There are two provinces, 1 called South Holland and the other North Holland. They are both different provinces and dont form a county called Holland as a whole.....
@@yoloswaggins9989 They actually did form a County
When has England made a top 3 in the world cup or european cup again?
You have no right to talk when your own country who is bigger in terms of people where in the second division you still make great money. Football lives more there and still you have nothing to show for it. Greetings from Amsterdam
As a Dutch person i can say that even with the destructional coaching of Southgate the English will be able to easily beat the Dutch. The English have by far the best potential in this tournament and at some point this has to come to live (even though England could or should have been knocked out already); Even with these strange tactics or so called coaching from Southgate. England just have so much potential and they only show it hen the really need to. But when it will click, the English will be unstoppable. Please beat the boring French in the final.
The ball is round my friend. Everything can happen in a (semi) final, its all about who wants it more and a little bit of luck attached to it
I believe that Morecambe would beat England...
I cant think of any team that could play SLOVAKIA for 90 min and not have 1 shot on target....
Championship or lower?? Everyone would get at least 1.....
Exactly, it doesn't matter the opposition at the moment, they are letting every team beat them in all departments and a manager that can't see it.
The Scottish club Raith Rovers beat England 4-1 in a bounce game today. The Raith manager was furious at conceding so late in the game to give England a consolation goal.
Its not Holland!!!Its the Netherlands!!!😠
England vs France is the final.
england spain imo
Keep dreaming
England won't make the final 😂
England won’t make the semifinals
😅😅😅😅
Holland probably turn Iceland over in Amsterdam is my guess ...no excuses
Well on current form the Dutch would win easy!
Netherlands couldnt win wc98: because an arab ref decided brazil needed to get through= he had his eyes closed with an obvious penaltykick..u know what im talking bout. These euros the refs also arent clean. This time germany needs to win and the both english clown refs shouldve been send home but get rewarded with qf matches
England used up all its luck vs Slovakia, bye bye england
I backed Holland at 16/1 with 500euro on it and it would change myself and my family’s life if they win it
Let’s go a Holland 🇳🇱👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Yeah of course you did...
Gambling is a fool's game
8000 smackeroos, nice one
yet they don’t ….. duh
He sounds like a South African.
That’s probably due to the fact that they used to speak Dutch in South Africa. And in large parts of South Africa they still speak a language that is extremely similar to Dutch. So our ‘accents’ are pretty much identical in some cases.
Looks like England wins easy from The Netherlands. What a clown .
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I don't think so Rene. You looked against Romania, but they aren't even comparable to England.
Yes England are far worse
Correct, England are boring as sin and Holland actually score goals.
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England is the weakest team left, if you go by their performances. Which is actually what counts.
I have no doubt either. The English team is all hype
Well England will lose to Switzerland for sure so this won't be a problem..
Not for sure. But likely.
His deluded England have a much better squad and depth
Where have they shown that?
😅
England arguably has the best players. However, they also have Southgate managing the team. Southgate is the reason why most of your top players played like 💩.
The Dutch team played like 💩 as well in the first three games, so I think there’s a 50/50 chance of getting through to the finals.
@@mariodriessen9740 well Southgate is our best manager we won't get a better British manager than Southgate look at what his achieved
@@jlhus5615 : What did he achieve? One lost final?
Just look at the the first three games. The choices he makes. I don’t trust his decisions.
With the players you have, you should have won all four games with ease.
Just prepare for Cristiano's tears
Holland have played one decent game so far ... Romania were awful...we will beat Switzerland snd then Turkey in the semis
England? 😂😂😂
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Well, that's 1 more decent game than England have played so far
@@punchline2529 obsessed