my mom told me that the reason a lot of us can't find our Roma gypsy relatives passed the 1800s is because Some of them didn't get baptized or write their names on the European census,
Dear Marena Thanks for your comment! There is certainly an element of truth in what your Mom has told you and with any travelling society there is always the risk that they might not have been baptised or recorded on the census. In England some vicars were very keen to baptise Gypsy, Roma, Traveller children but others less so. As far as the census is concerned, the published English censuses only go back from 1911 to 1841 so with no census earlier than this date it does make tracing Gypsy ancestors more difficult. In England, if the local census enumerator knew where to find a Gypsy camp or travelling community he would record them but often when groups were camped in out of the way places, such as woods or remote heathland, he might well have missed them. The experts in Gypsy family history are the Romany and Traveller Family History Society and I would recommend visiting their website for further help and advice as it contains lots of useful links, see rtfhs.org.uk/. If you have European Roma heritage, you might be interested in our Exploring Surrey’s Past website page on a European-wide Roma project we participated in a few years ago called ‘Roma Routes’ www.exploringsurreyspast.org.uk/themes/subjects/diversity/grt/romaroutes/. You can also watch other Gypsy community history videos called ‘Travellers Tales’ on the website at www.exploringsurreyspast.org.uk/themes/subjects/diversity/grt/. Best wishes Surrey History Centre 130 Goldsworth Road, Woking, Surrey, England, GU21 6ND Web: www.surreycc.gov.uk/culture-and-leisure/history-centre E-mail: shs@surreycc.gov.uk
@@surreyhistorytrust2865 most of my ancestors conglomerated when they came to america, my English Traveller/DutchJenish, side married to my German/RomaSinti side, my SpanishGitanos/Sephardic side married to my Mestizo side,
@@MarenaPetersdorfHerrera My family history is similar. My father's side was Romanichal and came to the US via Ireland and my mother's side was Gitano from my grandmother's side who moved to Mexico from Andalucia, Spain and mestizo Mexicano on my grandfather's side. So I am at least half Roma and a quarter Mexican with a little bit of Spanish and Irish .
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my mom told me that the reason a lot of us can't find our Roma gypsy relatives passed the 1800s is because Some of them didn't get baptized or write their names on the European census,
Dear Marena
Thanks for your comment! There is certainly an element of truth in what your Mom has told you and with any travelling society there is always the risk that they might not have been baptised or recorded on the census. In England some vicars were very keen to baptise Gypsy, Roma, Traveller children but others less so. As far as the census is concerned, the published English censuses only go back from 1911 to 1841 so with no census earlier than this date it does make tracing Gypsy ancestors more difficult. In England, if the local census enumerator knew where to find a Gypsy camp or travelling community he would record them but often when groups were camped in out of the way places, such as woods or remote heathland, he might well have missed them.
The experts in Gypsy family history are the Romany and Traveller Family History Society and I would recommend visiting their website for further help and advice as it contains lots of useful links, see rtfhs.org.uk/.
If you have European Roma heritage, you might be interested in our Exploring Surrey’s Past website page on a European-wide Roma project we participated in a few years ago called ‘Roma Routes’ www.exploringsurreyspast.org.uk/themes/subjects/diversity/grt/romaroutes/. You can also watch other Gypsy community history videos called ‘Travellers Tales’ on the website at www.exploringsurreyspast.org.uk/themes/subjects/diversity/grt/.
Best wishes
Surrey History Centre
130 Goldsworth Road, Woking, Surrey, England, GU21 6ND
Web: www.surreycc.gov.uk/culture-and-leisure/history-centre
E-mail: shs@surreycc.gov.uk
@@surreyhistorytrust2865 most of my ancestors conglomerated when they came to america, my English Traveller/DutchJenish, side married to my German/RomaSinti side, my SpanishGitanos/Sephardic side married to my Mestizo side,
@@MarenaPetersdorfHerrera My family history is similar. My father's side was Romanichal and came to the US via Ireland and my mother's side was Gitano from my grandmother's side who moved to Mexico from Andalucia, Spain and mestizo Mexicano on my grandfather's side. So I am at least half Roma and a quarter Mexican with a little bit of Spanish and Irish .