I didn’t know about this one. Thought it was the S. Korean gear up disaster from yesterday. Unfortunately you are being kept quite busy. Thank you for the informative content.
It does seems that Holidays time are prone to accidents and aviation accident if we include last year's Japan airline crash. Maybe we also should look into it as a secondary avenue thing and have awarness
Now that pilot was “in control” reporting exactly what tower and emergency services needed to know - souls on board, fuel, evacuating! An exemplary pilot in a serious emergency situation!
I had the pleasure of working for PAL back in 2015. Excellent staff and pilots. Not surprised the Captain / Crew handled this situation with impeccable leadership, communication. Glad no one was hurt.
@@DomCe what we normally get is that each new controller asks for the information, or wants to know about remaining flight time, here there is no second controller so we didn’t get the chance and the plane is on the ground so they only care how much fuel they’re dealing with
Much praise to VASAViation. A lot of different frequencies and a lot of transmission that had to be sorted though to compile a 5 min vid. Good Job - a lot of work in the trenches. And of course high praise to the aircrew, ATC, and ground rescue personnel for their professionalism.
According to the RCMP a number of passengers suffered minor injuries during the landing which were taken care of by attending paramedics. No serious injuries.
Was also another close one in Norway 10 days ago. A Norwegian airline landing at Molde Airport overran the runway because of icy conditions and possible bad brakes. Luckily the plane managed to stop just few meters from going in the sea.
Pilot made a near-textbook mayday call followed by a notice they were evacuating on runway. Pax, fuel, DG. Good job. ATC handled calmly and professionally. Years of simulator and training pays off.
It would be the airport authority that declares that, ATC wanted him on 32 but once fire cover is depleted the airport authority normally declares that the airfield is closed or reduced fire category, Of course its ATC that passes that on initially to the aircraft via RT.
Actually considering a collapse, and evacuation in progress. the pilot made a near-textbook mayday call followed by a notice they were evacuating on runway. Pax, fuel, DG.
Very interesting. At smaller airports it is usually the case that they close although other runways are perfectly safe to use, but the reason is all fire crew/vehicles are deployed to the crashed aircraft(emergency aircraft). If it would happen also to the next landing aircraft, they would be occupied with first emergency situation and you never know thats why they rather close it.
My thought was they didn't want to land anybody with passengers on the ground outside, never can guess where they might end up. Anyway, multiple reasons why not...
Very cool communication from both sides specially using term as per international standard "pull up and GO AROUND not the confusing term overshoot. Great job.
@@VASAviation Oh, one of the first I saw on your channel. Truly a dejavu with the way they both unfolded. Quick and to the point with no discussion of whether it was an emergency or not.
Great content as usual.. never in a million years did I think I’d hear Charlottetown PEI mentioned on this channel… I live 5 minutes away from that airport.
that was my flight to work, we wondered why it was taking so long to taxi...go outside...and its slid off the runway. was quite the sight. i counted close to 40 overall vehicles that reported from the airport itself and surrounding counties.
I live in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada where this airport is located. I find it funny that they called this an "accident", but in 2015, a large Air Canada jet came in too low, ripped out the power lines, hit the embankment, flew up into the air, came down on the landing light array, bounced up again and then slid down the runway 1900 feet, stopped with it undercarriage completely torn off, BOTH engines ripped from the airplane, destroying the airplane and they called that a " rough landing" ... hahaha
I guess for a less severe incident, there could’ve been enough fire capability available after the accident? Otherwise, it seems strange that pilots kept asking about other runways when it typically has to do with rescue capacity.
It does seems that Holidays time are prone to accidents and aviation accident if we include last year's Japan airline crash. Maybe we also should look into it as a secondary avenue thing and have awarness
It is not the first time a main gear of a Dash-8 collapsed on landing... Fortunately everyone walked away from this crash... Wonder if this Dash-8 will fly again.
Many years ago I worked Crash Fire Rescue at a busy airport. To this day, I do not understand why airports spend millions on CFR equipment, and only $1.29 on communications equipment.
They spend a lot. A basic handheld radio costs about $2000 each. Motorola is the single supplier. It’s a monopoly. Also, we are not hearing the actual pure recording. We’re hearing audio from someone with a receiver nearby who puts it online.
@@randomwaffler Again, it was many years ago when I experienced the communications issues. If we responded off airport on a mutual aid call and lost line of sight with the tower, our radios were totally worthless. Hopefully communications have improved over the years.
@@smal1393 not necessarily. Last winter I was working as an airport duty manager. There were times when I was using a handheld radio that pilots couldn't hear me from the opposite end of a 7000' runway.
Can you please make it clearer from the beginning when everyone is okay? I had to hunt for the info in the comments, to decide whether I wanted to watch the video.
Add in on the 22nd Dec, the Emerald Airlines a Regional of Aer Lingus, ATR 72 nose wheel collapse after a possible heavy nose wheel first landing at Belfast City in the UK. Fortunately no injuries
What is it with the Dash 8-400 and their gear collapses? I rarely hear of gear collapses in general but the ones I hear of seem to be mostly from this type. In 2007 Scandinavian Airlines had three accidents with the 8-400. Then there are the two Flybe accidents in 2017, one where the gear collapsed while landing in AMS, the other landed with its nose gear retracted at Belfast. How "normal" are gear collapses in other types?
Hi all…. Is there a site that will tell why a flight was diverted? Yesterday (12/28) Spirit flight #2207 MCO to BOS was diverted to KACY after it made it to Boston.
This incident should hi-light and bring into question the procedures of Airlines operating on "No Alternate" flight plans. When the airport suddenly closes and inbound flights do Not carry enough fuel to divert to an alternate, what's the backup plan? Just asking.
The conversations you see with Moncton Center near the end are flights en-route to Halifax but that wouldn't have been in range or likely to be tuned in to hear any of the conversations at the airport/with the airport tower itself at that point in their flight. They're being advised of the situation so they can decide what to do/plan, and they don't know the situation on the ground beyond what had just been said by Moncton Center.
Sorry to be unrelated to this video but please make a video about the airplane crash in South Korea when you get a chance. I am especially interested to hear your thoughts on the CONCRETE WALL sitting right at the end of that Korean runway....like wtf? My naive assumption is that the end of the runway should not have a concrete structure sitting there...in case there is an emergency landing. My god, the plane was doing fine until it HIT A SOLID CONCRETE WALL......prayers for the victims. Have you ever seen a major airport with concrete sitting at the end of a runway? Also, is it a safe assumption that the concrete wall will be removed before the runway opens back up?
Because all fire services are assisting the aircraft that just crashed and there are no more vehicles in case a second airplane needs them, that's why the airport closes.
While having no CFR to cover another runway is certainly a valid situation to close an airport, the real reason the airport closed in this case is more due to an evacuation on the airfield. Can't have planes moving with people on the field. Anyone know how long the airport remained closed?
It is a DeHavilland. Not an issue of "weak" gear. The aircraft and gear are built solid. The issue may be an ongoing design flaw with gear. This ocurred several times years ago on DH8-400
All good and standard but suddenly... it all turns red and dark. Good job, pilots!
I didn’t know about this one. Thought it was the S. Korean gear up disaster from yesterday. Unfortunately you are being kept quite busy. Thank you for the informative content.
It does seems that Holidays time are prone to accidents and aviation accident if we include last year's Japan airline crash. Maybe we also should look into it as a secondary avenue thing and have awarness
@@DunDun-e43and the Azerbaijan plane the Russians shot down the other day
Now that pilot was “in control” reporting exactly what tower and emergency services needed to know - souls on board, fuel, evacuating! An exemplary pilot in a serious emergency situation!
I had the pleasure of working for PAL back in 2015. Excellent staff and pilots. Not surprised the Captain / Crew handled this situation with impeccable leadership, communication. Glad no one was hurt.
Indeed.
Now that's a pilot with exemplary emergency communications skills.
And the ATC not asking the same thing like 3 times, like in other videos... He listends and forwared the information to the fire brigade, great work!
@@DomCe what we normally get is that each new controller asks for the information, or wants to know about remaining flight time, here there is no second controller so we didn’t get the chance and the plane is on the ground so they only care how much fuel they’re dealing with
Totarry a good pirot
Indeed.
@@DomCe Indeed, too.
its amazing the controllers recorded the pilots souls onboard when he first said it and didnt make the pilot repeat it 3 times
Canadian courtesy
Yeah American controllers must be very confused rigth now
They could see all of them through the window ;)
Firemen were completely lost without the fuel in kilos, pounds and minutes.
@@bruno_tcs The pilot did start to give the weight in Kilograms, but he corrected himself.
My wife was present and witnessed that event last night. We are glad that all were safe. No immediately serious injuries.
Good to know, thanks.
Heard about it in Sydney. We were all so worried
Textbook performance by everyone involved. Respect
Congratulations to all involved, especially ATC for not needing a single word repeated!!
Indeed.
Hell of a job by flight crew and ATC. Clear comms👍
Much praise to VASAViation. A lot of different frequencies and a lot of transmission that had to be sorted though to compile a 5 min vid. Good Job - a lot of work in the trenches.
And of course high praise to the aircrew, ATC, and ground rescue personnel for their professionalism.
Always praise to VASAviation, but they're all the same LiveATC channel, we've only got one out here now!
According to the RCMP a number of passengers suffered minor injuries during the landing which were taken care of by attending paramedics. No serious injuries.
Juan will be way too busy in the next few days based on the news.
He's he is going to have to get his grandson to assist with some of his plane toys.
My thoughts exactly. He'll be working overtime.
And he did want a wee bit of a break over the holidays.....🎅🎅☃☃🎉🎉
@@gatolibero8329and possibly in the worst time of the year too.
Sadly, this comment is too true.
What a week.
Yeah, like this is number 4...
3 during the past 24 hours alone.....
iirc theres already 4 incidents reported.
Agenda 2030 wants to stop us all flying? Criminal govt in UK want to massively increase the fares to stop us too. or is that still just a conspiracy?
Was also another close one in Norway 10 days ago. A Norwegian airline landing at Molde Airport overran the runway because of icy conditions and possible bad brakes. Luckily the plane managed to stop just few meters from going in the sea.
Pilot made a near-textbook mayday call followed by a notice they were evacuating on runway. Pax, fuel, DG. Good job. ATC handled calmly and professionally. Years of simulator and training pays off.
ATC really on the ball. Good job!
Was waiting for "the airport is closed"...
It would be the airport authority that declares that, ATC wanted him on 32 but once fire cover is depleted the airport authority normally declares that the airfield is closed or reduced fire category, Of course its ATC that passes that on initially to the aircraft via RT.
Good news is everyone was okay and we also don't have to read the comments complaining about the pilot not doing a proper Mayday call.
Actually considering a collapse, and evacuation in progress. the pilot made a near-textbook mayday call followed by a notice they were evacuating on runway. Pax, fuel, DG.
Wow. They were efficient and effective in dealing with this.
Major respect for all, exemplary professionalism!
Very interesting. At smaller airports it is usually the case that they close although other runways are perfectly safe to use, but the reason is all fire crew/vehicles are deployed to the crashed aircraft(emergency aircraft). If it would happen also to the next landing aircraft, they would be occupied with first emergency situation and you never know thats why they rather close it.
Might have also been suspicious of fod at the runway intersection that there was insufficient ground crew to check out right away.
My thought was they didn't want to land anybody with passengers on the ground outside, never can guess where they might end up. Anyway, multiple reasons why not...
@@malcolm20091000APP said that CFR was occupied and that being the reason for not using the second runway.
Always amazed at how everyone keeps their cool. Seems like a whole different world up there. Bless all crew.❤
I think you need to be brave & level headed to even be a pilot. I know I couldn't do it.
Scary to see this at my home airport, but proud of the actions of all involved.
Very cool communication from both sides specially using term as per international standard "pull up and GO AROUND not the confusing term overshoot. Great job.
Canadians are cool.
Once more i appreciate the instant professional interaction of everybody!
Gives me the dash 8 gear collaps vibe at schiphol a while back
I remember that one too: ruclips.net/video/nZLJl17JaZ8/видео.htmlsi=e3lfYn9n-wcpVuVT
@@VASAviation Oh, one of the first I saw on your channel.
Truly a dejavu with the way they both unfolded. Quick and to the point with no discussion of whether it was an emergency or not.
Scandinavian Airlines also had three separate landing gear accidents with Dash 8 aircraft back in 2007.
It's the Dash 8's mating call
@@GarethReecewoodit’s absolutely not, dash 8s are remarkably robust
This could have gone much worse. I am glad that it didn't. Let's all say prayers for the devastating loss in Korea.
Wow. Everything was great and then it all fell apart! I'm glad everyone was able to be evacuated safely onto the runway!
Excellent work by the pilots. Especially coming back to say souls and fuel.
Fantastic coordinated communications between all involved!
Bravo to this flight crew and the airport's reaction! Well done!
Great content as usual.. never in a million years did I think I’d hear Charlottetown PEI mentioned on this channel… I live 5 minutes away from that airport.
give my regards to Bud the Spud, eh?
@ I sure can Eh!
It’s an alternate sometimes. :)
@ sure is!
Totally professional from top to bottom by all involved. Oh Canada
Thank you very much for picking this accident up!👍
This will be an interesting investigation. These 400’s had some MLG issues years ago but don’t recall the last collapse event. Glad everyone was OK 👍🏻
Amsterdam a few years ago ruclips.net/video/nZLJl17JaZ8/видео.htmlsi=vXeJpc9Tx-801YOf
He sounded half asleep when he checked in but his comms were exemplary after the collapse.
We don't have stacked traffic and high tension here at Halifax Airport. All comms are pretty relaxed.
Emergency will wake you up real quick
Solid professionalism by all - Canadian aviation is gold!
ARFF teams in the homestretch to hit their live exercise goals this year. jesus what a bad week of flight.
that was my flight to work, we wondered why it was taking so long to taxi...go outside...and its slid off the runway. was quite the sight. i counted close to 40 overall vehicles that reported from the airport itself and surrounding counties.
I live in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada where this airport is located. I find it funny that they called this an "accident", but in 2015, a large Air Canada jet came in too low, ripped out the power lines, hit the embankment, flew up into the air, came down on the landing light array, bounced up again and then slid down the runway 1900 feet, stopped with it undercarriage completely torn off, BOTH engines ripped from the airplane, destroying the airplane and they called that a " rough landing" ... hahaha
What a 24 hours we had, 2 aircraft incidents and a crash!
Really well handled by everyone involved.
What the AF is going on with landing gear this week?
Minor correction in the background. Rouge 1696 is FLL->YOW. I think this was Rouge 1596 which is YUL->YHZ.
Incredible job to these pilots and ATC. 😊
Big worry with evacuating people after a problem like this is the fire engines all screaming up full speed have been known to run folk over.
Very professional
All parties concerned
Its been a tough week...
Thanks for sharing this video. Always very good content. Cheers.. Peter in The Villages Florida
Quick résponse and fast evacuation. Well done !!!
Thank you for the video 👍😊
I guess for a less severe incident, there could’ve been enough fire capability available after the accident? Otherwise, it seems strange that pilots kept asking about other runways when it typically has to do with rescue capacity.
nice job by all and everybody 'walked' away. sweet!
When it rains, it pours… rough last 5 days for aviation…
2024 had to rush to get a last few in.
Haven't we seen a series of gear collapses on this very aircraft type many years ago?
They are in use in Australia by Qantas
hell of a week
Can you also make a video about the incident of the Swiss A220 making a emergency landing to Graz Austria?
now waiting for the 7C recording
Finally a local video
It does seems that Holidays time are prone to accidents and aviation accident if we include last year's Japan airline crash. Maybe we also should look into it as a secondary avenue thing and have awarness
The timing is bad luck. Nothing to do with time of year.
This type aircraft has had many gear collapse issues over the years.
It is not the first time a main gear of a Dash-8 collapsed on landing... Fortunately everyone walked away from this crash... Wonder if this Dash-8 will fly again.
It seems like some thought the 2024 incident number has to be upped a bit...
Did you see the plane touch and go on 35 w in Minnesota
Are these transmissions all public? For all companies? I had no idea this was a thing...
How do you have Moncton Centre??! I couldn't get it every time I've tried!
2 hours is much less than I thought it would take.
Many years ago I worked Crash Fire Rescue at a busy airport. To this day, I do not understand why airports spend millions on CFR equipment, and only $1.29 on communications equipment.
They spend a lot. A basic handheld radio costs about $2000 each. Motorola is the single supplier. It’s a monopoly. Also, we are not hearing the actual pure recording. We’re hearing audio from someone with a receiver nearby who puts it online.
this is a recording from some random guy with an amateur radio scanner, so the audio quality is understandably terrible
@@randomwaffler Again, it was many years ago when I experienced the communications issues. If we responded off airport on a mutual aid call and lost line of sight with the tower, our radios were totally worthless. Hopefully communications have improved over the years.
@@randomwaffler I think it's less about the receiver and more about the sight lines.
@@smal1393 not necessarily. Last winter I was working as an airport duty manager. There were times when I was using a handheld radio that pilots couldn't hear me from the opposite end of a 7000' runway.
They'll never trust a landing gear again after this. Usually, you at least get some sort of indication.
Can you please make it clearer from the beginning when everyone is okay? I had to hunt for the info in the comments, to decide whether I wanted to watch the video.
“Red 3 standing by” “Red 5 standing by”
Is it just me or did serious incidents become very frequent this week?
It's you.
Is it? What is this, the 3rd major airline crash this week?
@@mattdallas5671 4th. The Russian shoot-down, Korea's overrun, the KLM which went off the runway, and then this one.
This is possibly the second busiest week in the year for flying so take that for something
Add in on the 22nd Dec, the Emerald Airlines a Regional of Aer Lingus, ATR 72 nose wheel collapse after a possible heavy nose wheel first landing at Belfast City in the UK. Fortunately no injuries
Ouch!
What is it with the Dash 8-400 and their gear collapses? I rarely hear of gear collapses in general but the ones I hear of seem to be mostly from this type. In 2007 Scandinavian Airlines had three accidents with the 8-400. Then there are the two Flybe accidents in 2017, one where the gear collapsed while landing in AMS, the other landed with its nose gear retracted at Belfast.
How "normal" are gear collapses in other types?
Hi all…. Is there a site that will tell why a flight was diverted? Yesterday (12/28) Spirit flight #2207 MCO to BOS was diverted to KACY after it made it to Boston.
Another one! In a long series of Gear collapses on this model. Actually, the problems should have been corrected long ago....
What is going on with all these planes crashing this week
Just heard about this.
"How long is gonna be?" Hahahahahah Ridiculous!!😂😂😂😂🤣
05/23 About 3,008M
14/32, about 2,340M, both for the foreseeable future.
Do you have the one from Korea, by any chance
Difficult to get the audio
Why you haven't uploaded the plane that crashed to the wall?
Because there's no audio available
This incident should hi-light and bring into question the procedures of Airlines operating on "No Alternate" flight plans. When the airport suddenly closes and inbound flights do Not carry enough fuel to divert to an alternate, what's the backup plan? Just asking.
If you get to that point and you have no fuel to go to the alternate, then you're in real legal trouble as a pilot.
Hey Juan, get to work!! Lots for you to report on.
What a bad day for aviation...
Had her back open by midnight
Yes the airport was back open but the runway remains closed, this afternoon just 14/32 operational
Luckily, this is the first ever landing gear collapse of a Dash-8 in history... (facepalm).
They look like storks coming in to land.
Dash 8 definitely has a design problem with its landing gear, happens way too often
Two rugby teams on the flight are having to replace their gear at the last minute
There are 77 frightened people wandering around on an airport runway at night and pilots are still thinking they might able to use the other runway?
The conversations you see with Moncton Center near the end are flights en-route to Halifax but that wouldn't have been in range or likely to be tuned in to hear any of the conversations at the airport/with the airport tower itself at that point in their flight. They're being advised of the situation so they can decide what to do/plan, and they don't know the situation on the ground beyond what had just been said by Moncton Center.
Ugh being divertedto Charlottetown would suck.
They diverted to Moncton finally
And came back to yhz after midnight
What is going on with airplanes these days?
Can you add jet air flight 2216 radio that it crash on belly landing and crash into wall in muan airport please
So every airliners are crashing their airplanes before the new year. Wow.
It's fine, nothing like the five or so pegasus runway excursions 2019 😂
What part of the airport is closed due to a crash don’t you get? Man..
Sorry to be unrelated to this video but please make a video about the airplane crash in South Korea when you get a chance. I am especially interested to hear your thoughts on the CONCRETE WALL sitting right at the end of that Korean runway....like wtf? My naive assumption is that the end of the runway should not have a concrete structure sitting there...in case there is an emergency landing. My god, the plane was doing fine until it HIT A SOLID CONCRETE WALL......prayers for the victims. Have you ever seen a major airport with concrete sitting at the end of a runway? Also, is it a safe assumption that the concrete wall will be removed before the runway opens back up?
There are a whole lot of questions that need answers before anyone can really analyze that crash.
@@GWNorth-db8vn true
Such a bad ending of a year for an aviation. I believe in close future this December could be called “black December” in aviation history
could someone explain why the reason why the airport is closed. i understand if it was because of crash, but they say "no crash fire available"
Because all fire services are assisting the aircraft that just crashed and there are no more vehicles in case a second airplane needs them, that's why the airport closes.
2024 sure refuses to take it easy on the aviation industry in its last week.
While having no CFR to cover another runway is certainly a valid situation to close an airport, the real reason the airport closed in this case is more due to an evacuation on the airfield. Can't have planes moving with people on the field. Anyone know how long the airport remained closed?
Closed for 2 hours.
LOL, guess you missed the last 6 seconds of the video.
sorry, that's HOW MANY gear collapses in the past 7 days??? What is going on??
Wow, the Crash 8 again ? Those U/C legs do not like firm landings...
It is a DeHavilland. Not an issue of "weak" gear. The aircraft and gear are built solid. The issue may be an ongoing design flaw with gear. This ocurred several times years ago on DH8-400
@JimWakable yes I know who made it, so it's built solid but with a design flaw? That's logical...
How long before the airport reopened?
2 hrs per the video.
Shown on video