Dubrovnik - history, sieges, captures, liberations, and staring cats
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The first of a few videos from Dubrovnik. The figure of 114 killed by the shelling in the early '90s comes from a Red Cross figure quoted on Wikipedia. I have seen other numbers, and cannot vouch for the accuracy of this number. Some figures are for slightly different period lengths, some are for civilians only, and others include military personnel. None differs enormously, however.
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Dubrovnik - history, sieges, captures, liberations, and staring cats
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This video does not accurately portray the sheer numbers of cats that live in dubrovnik
The quick-eyed will see a few cats in the still photographs.
Ever been to Istanbul? There is a shit-ton of cats there.
there is a shit ton of everything in istanbul ... more tea is consumed daily than the rest of the Balkan peninsula ... most people think Brits drink a lot of tea ... and also is a fast food nirvana ...
When in Dubrovnik, whilst walking down an alley in the old city, I saw a women petting her two fat cats. A street cat then walked by, and the woman spat on it. It was a strange sight.
@@blatt1375 crazy cat lady? xD
Ironically, that famous poet that got killed was an ethnic Serb from Dubrovnik, Milan Milišić. He had one very interesting connection to England: he, with his than wife Merry, translated Hobbit to Serbo - Croatian. It is widely regarded as one of the best translations from English literature to our language(s), in fact, reading it, it is hard to believe that it wasn't originally written in Serbian or Croatian.
+Miladin Ercegovcevic i am very familiar with Milan Milišić. i think on my father side we may be related to him somehow... we were ethnic Serbs living in Dubrovnik as well... my family also lived in Krajina tho...
@@mihaeltomasovic you have to mention that he was kiled by serbs granate, in times when they attacked Dubrovnik, and whole Croatia
That cat's not stuffed, it just does what all cats do: Not a single shit.
He was joking.
Please to be explaining zis Englischer humour, ja?
Rex The AstroDog
Thank you for stating the obvious. And because he was joking I obviously could not have been joking as well.
Birdblizzard You're welcome mate. Just try not to do it again ;^)
Cats do alot of things.
please do a video of you singing the whole of the game of thrones theme :)
He's back HUZZA!!!!!
HUUUZZZZZAAAAAA!!!!!
2ndPerk And on that day HUZZAAAS and HOOOPLAS rang across the world.
VIKIIIIINGS!!!
-and now all HAIL PRESTO!
>HUZZZZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
-fine, fine i remember. The age of Presto had ended over a century earlier.
>(silently): vikings.
This dude should become a british TV host. I would watch the shit out of his shows.
Hey, nice to see ya back Lindy!
Good video. Keep 'em coming.
The bit of Bosnian territory about which you didn't know called Neum is there because in the early 18th century Dubrovnik was in danger of having a border with then Venetian Dalmatia, with whom they were both trading and military rivals. Dubrovnik didn't like the idea of a Venetian land attack, so they struck a deal with the Ottomans, making them request Neum after a peace struck with Venetia and the Hapsburgs in 1718. Neum became a part of the Turkish province of Bosnia, so it stayed in Bosnian hands even after 1991.
You posted the same comment twice, I say delete one of them
Interesting. That it was sold to the Ottomans for financial reasons rather than military came from Wikipedia, which is of course fallible.
Well, what I posted here is what's written in my history books and what's been told to me by people living in Dubrovnik (I'm Croatian). Anyway, I hope you have a nice time in Dubrovnik, the city is very rich in history and culture. Unfortunately, it is also very rich in turists, and the prices are unbelievably high, especially inside the walls (though I'm sure you know that by now).
Actualy that deal was null and void after Austro-Hungary conquered the area, and it stayed so even after it anexed the BiH. It was only during the SFRJ era that Tito decide that BiH should have it's own exit to the sea with a port - Ploče.
Always enjoy your videos Lindybeige. : )
Don't we all?
koti12000 There are always some Frenchmen ;)
Jan Plewa those bastards!
Jan Plewa Wait, am I not allowed to enjoy his videos then ? ;)
Guillaume M :D I'm German, I have no problems with France ;)
Tyrion is now thousands of miles from King's Landing. And by thousands of miles, I mean a little ways up the coast in Split, Croatia.
(Although the fighting pit scene was shot in Spain, and most of the filming for warm climates in Season 6 will be in Spain.)
I know that look after a bus night ride from Zagreb to Dubrovnik :) I grew up on an island near by Dubrovnik but went to university to Zagreb so I did a lot of those night rides. A lot. Thats where I left my youth, now people tell me that I look ten yers older than my age. Those bloody night buss rides, worst thing ever. and yes, including the french
(btw that thing about Neum, im not quite sure that you were right about this, story goes that Dubrovnik republic ´´gave´´ that to the Otoman empire so they would make abuffer zone in betewn Dubrovnik republic AKA Ragusa and those blody Venitians. Dubrovnik republik liek Venetians as much as you like french) :)
The best rendition of the GoT theme I've heard, well done Lindybeige!
Welcome back, Lindybeige. I actually wanted to ask, when you have time again, if you could actually do a video on the fighting in Game of Thrones (since you mentioned it in your video). I'd be curious to know what you think. I haven't seen anyone do an analysis of how good or bad it is (especially withe episode 9 of this last season).
Well, just an idea to throw out there. I hope you do pick it up if you have time.
There's actually an expert review of the Oberyn vs Gregor Clegane duel on scholagladiatoria's channel.
scholagladiatoria did a bit on that a few days ago.
Three cheers for the return of Lloyd!!!
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Thanks for making a new video!
Damn I've missed you Lindy, welcome back!
Happy 300 vids!
They did not sell that part of the land to the Ottomans for the lack of money, they gave it away so that the Ottomans could protect their back against Venetian forces.
true shit yes
Back then a genious idea- give the ottomans a tiny piece of Land so you dont have a Landborder with Venice.
Now we need to cross a border to get to our capital (by land).
Oh and the last few years were building an expensive bridge.
Yay, good to see your back Lindy!
I live here!
I'm glad you've been here Lindybeige
What a coincident... I found this video and looked at the date and realised that I had been in Dubrovnik around the exact time that you would've been there considering the upload time.
Awesome to see another video lindy, you always make them interesting; including the one about mud bricks!
Hey, you're back ! nice to see you again :)
Great to see you back in fighting trim again!
Thanks for sharing!..
Seriously, this man deserves more attention!
I was in Dubrovnik yesterday!!! Really great architecture and history but too busy and hot for me to enjoy. Love the video's, please make more!!!!!
Great and fast video!
Congrats on your 300th vid :)
Thank you. I am sitting in my hostel in old town looking for history on this place, then I see Lindy had video. Good last keep it up you spazz
I have found mid-November the time to visit the city, as the tourists are gone, and the city is getting ready to close its tourist shops. You get a more authentic feel of the city and share the street with mostly local people. One of my favorite cities in Europe.
Great to see you're back, Lindy. Congratulations on your 300th video!
It would pretty neat if you could make a video or two about Game of Thrones in terms of "historical authenticity" (in quotes because it is a fictional setting after all, but it's inspiration from the War of the Roses and such is obvious). You know, do the fight scenes resemble what a duel or brawl would have looked like, sets and costumes and such.
As a half-Croatian, It's nice to see you visit my motherland. Even nicer to see how Dubrovnik looks 10 years after I visited it last. It never crossed my mind that the city was used for King's Landing scenes!
its been a while... long time no see!!! Love your vids man, try to find the time to pop in every once in a while...
History time! Great video, had no idea even the French held the place for a while. Your GoT reference was marvelous too, never watched (only read) the series so that was a complete surprise.
We missed you! great you are back! :)
The legend never dies.
Great video
it's good to hear from you again.
Wow, just after I have a dream about you being my out of school time history teacher, you upload a video that teaches me a little bit of history.
You also promised to give me another lesson next wednesday in the dream.
Great video - that's one fewer country I need to visit
Your travel videos are great! More, I tell you.
Yay more travel videos.. I remember reading Lindy's website about the leather ancient Greek cuirass when I was about 13 trying to learn how to make bows and chainmail. He sure has done a lot of internets I am now 24
Wow... that was a truly epic cat stare fight!
Btw, good to see a new video of yours again!
Hey, you're back. It had been a while between vids, wasn't certain where you'd gone
Is there any place in Europe that isn't "rich in history"? Snarkiness aside, nice video, Lindy, always good to see what part of the world you're traipsing through.
***** ...fair enough.
The parts of Scandinavia in the arctic circle?
The7DragonsOfReggae yes, those.
Milton Keynes.
Tim Ward Harsh... *sniff*
I swam in King's landing before it was Game of Thrones.
Montenegrians and Bosnians bombed kings landing before the Dragon queen
@@alekmiloy8166 You mean Serbians and Montenegrins?
YES YOU ARE BACK :D
Been in Dubrovnik 4 times in my life already, it has one of the most beautiful old-towns in Europe. I highly recommend to visit it.
but not during tourist season
I expected a video about the movie 300 because it's the 300th video, but doesn't matter, keep em' comming!
Very cool, as usual :) Just for you to know, Lord Byron named it "the Pearl in the Adriatic" and Bernard Shaw said, "Those that seek paradise on earth should seek it in Dubrovnik".
Lindybeige humming the game of thrones theme... a good day just became a great day
Lloyd is back!
Also I think the red keep is scaled or mice rather than full sized people.
Absolutely love your videos. I'm thinking of becoming a teacher or professor.
What a coincidence, me and some family are going there in a few months. I never knew it was bloody King's Landing! :) Thanks Lindy.
Good to see you're not dead.
Thanks. Not dead is my preferred state of being.
As is so very often the case, posts to which I wish to reply have no 'reply' button. The post before this one is about King's Landing. Landing sounds like London, much like Lannister sounds like Lancaster, and Stark sounds like York. GoT is a retelling of the Wars of the Roses.
Lindybeige However, neither the House of Lancaster nor the House of York seized the throne of England in the end - it was the House of Tudor. Now, which character's name sounds like Tudor?
It's inevitable. Before the show ends, Hodor will sit on the Iron Trone.
All hail king Hodor!
I've missed you Lloyd, the number of videos has been less than I would like. I think you should try to get up to at least 5-6 videos a day.
But then, on the 24.06.2014 Lindeybeige finally uploaded a new video - HUZZA!
Have been to Dubrovnik 2 years ago. It's true the tourist density in the old town is very high but it is really beautiful! In fact almost no one lives there. It's all restaurants, museums hotels and shops.
bonus points for the acapella game of thrones theme at the end.
I just liked this video and it went from 2.9K to 3K.
Some mayor mistakes in the video. Dubrovnik wasn’t part of the Ottoman empire, it was under its protection and therefore paid the Sultan. It also didn’t sell territory because of bad economy, which it nearly never had. It sold it to not have a land border with Venice that was a threat to Dubrovnik.
And although Latin was the state language, Croatian was spoken in household and all day life. Same goes with Italian-Dalmatian later. Only the nobles were billingual and spoke it for trading purposes, the rest spoke Croatian. That’s why nearly all of Dubrovniks rich poetry and works were in Croatian. Dubrovnik was also not a vassal to Hungary, but the Magyar-Croatian king. In the Habsburg empire it became part of the Dalmatian province that was included into Croatia inside the monarchy. In Yugoslavia it was first oart of the Zeta banate and then the Croatian banate. In WW2 it was part of the Independent State of Croatia, in Yugoslavia part of the Croatian socialist republic.
mayor ti se piše major
Popis iz 1890
Acapella is so great!
Where can i get it?
Welcome back. Your cat is glad you're home too, lol
That feeling when you understand what the children are saying at 1:29 :D Croatia :D
Shelled by bosnians?!? I'm curious, from whom did you hear this, Lindybeige?
Bosnians, Yugoslavs, Serbs, they're all the same.
Bosnian serbs
Yugoslavs do not exist it is a artificial nation, Serbs besigied Dubrovnik
Bosnian Serbs
Brilliant. The bus trip must have been lovely too. Did you go to Tivat yet? It's to the south.
Thanks, but no, the bus trip was horrible. Hardly slept a wink. Arrived and fell face-forwards onto my bed and woke up in the same position four hours later.
Excellent travelogue, just like many of your previous ones. :-) Even by the standards of southeast Europe, Dubrovnik has a very colourful and complex history as a city and a former polity. Look up the Republic of Ragusa, it's the sort of real historical stuff that one just can't make up...
I used to have lots of people visit the "Red Keep" in my "King's Landing" too. Plenty of digging went on although not so much these days when it's starting to develop some archaeological value.
This is what happens when you expect Lindy to do a version of the GoT theme at the end of this video but get the South Park "Weiner Floppy Weiner" version stuck in your head.
So I'm not the only one who has that particular earworm problem when I hear the theme, huh? Good to know.
Slightly disappointed that Lindy didn't whistle the refrain.
And why would people come out in droves to visit a place that was CGI? Seems rather nonsensical to me.
morallyambiguousnet I always get the Peter Dinklage Peter Dinklage Peter Dinklage version.
Jontman42 Ever since seeing "Knights of Badassdom" all that comes into my head when I think about Peter Dinklage is some "monsters in need of pummelin'" and something about "an ounce of killer 'shrooms."
5 years later and I'm still proud of that dark cat
Please do an analysis of Red Viper vs The Mountain. It looked awesome but probably wasn't awesome in case of martial arts.
Schola Gladiatoria has done one.
Lindy! Don't ever leave us for so long again :)
MOST EPIC GOT INTRO EVVAH
Huh... Didn't know Dubrovnik was a set for King's Landing, I was even there before Game of thrones came out with their first season. Feels good, man.
What the bloody song at the end?
What a history...
one of the more lovely places i've been in the past, in fact Croatia in general is lovely!
perfect, now i wanna go to dubrovnik too
The Dubrovnik literacy and literature is really really interesting ^_^
It's been too long since my last Lindy fix. I've been jonesin'
I dream of you getting funding to do a full documentary series on the history of the Mediterranean world. That would be a truly fascinating journey. Would this be something you would consider if the opportunity ever arose?
Lindybeige,
You should totally do a whole series on Game of thrones and where GRR Martin got his inspiration from historical events. I think you have the perfect expertise!
War of the Roses.
VintageLJ
yea but go into details!!
Some language pedantry for those who care: it's actually pronounced with the accent on the U (dùbrovnik), and Zagreb on the a (zàgreb). Source: am half croatian. We like to put the accent on the first syllable of even surprisingly long words, thus causing significant puzzlement to anyone who tries to come to terms with the language.
@@matthew_turkmen7482 upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/Dubrovnikpronun.ogg
So thats what Aegon's High Hill and the Red Keep look like, cool!
I knew I recognised those roofs!
King's Landing! Cool
0:57 -- I came to Dubrovnik for the archaeology, but I stayed for the cat-staring matches.
King's Landing is called King's Landing, because that's where Aegon the Conqueror first landed his fleet and built his first fort. I don't think it has much to do with London.
is this where they make sturmoviks?
4:40 cover image for 'A storm of swords Part 1' aka GoT book 3
Any chance of some videos on Game of Thrones similar to Ironclad or Helen of Troy?
Dubrovnik was besieged by the Yugoslavian army under control og Milosevic and his Serbian generals, not by the Bosnians. The regular soldiers were still from all of the nationalities of Yugoslavia, including Croats.
War errupted shortly in Bosnia as well, after the coallition government refused to take part in the aggression on Croatia and holding a refferendum for independence. Please correct this, sir!
You of all should avoid inaccurate history :) Otherwise, keep up the good work!
I hope you do a piece on Sarajevo or Mostar :)
always a pleasure.
they're not pan tiles. they are barrelled like a roman tile. pan tiles are not symmetrical, they are a wave profile.
He lives!
The only thing I really remember from Dubrovnik was a really bad sunburn. I was 9 and dad stepped on a sea urchin.
Maria Klippert ~ 1:03 I'm not sure but that looks like a small growing marijuana/ house plant to me.
In this vein, I'd like to hear about how many times Alexandria, in fact how many times all of Egypt has changed hands in recorded history.
You DO have places where the language changes in Britain. In Wales for example, Welsh was the dominant language until the late 19th century. Changing your language to that of the people with more power is something that has happened and continues to happen all over the world.
are there any other channels that do this sort of video on archaeology besides Lloyd and scholagladiatora?
You should have visited zadar. I'm croatian and from the cities I've visited it's the one that is most interesting and beautiful :)
I'm going to Dubrovnik again for the first time in 3 years. I am bracing myself for the amount of people coming to see King's Landing. Eeps!