Whitney Wolverine: Atomic Age Design in a .22 Rimfire

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    The Whitney Wolverine was a .22LR semiauto pistol designed by Robert Hillberg in 1954. It is a very distinctive looking gun, with the nickeled versions in particular being the epitome of Atomic Age styling. Unfortunately, the gun was a commercial failure, and only 13,371 were made in total by two different companies before the whole project shut down in the early 1960s. Today we will look at the mechanics of the Whitney and also discuss why it failed.
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  • @jaxativejax662
    @jaxativejax662 5 лет назад +2889

    If there was ever a firearm that looked like it should make a "pew-pew" noise it's this one.
    For maximum coolness use tracer rounds.

    • @theinstitute1324
      @theinstitute1324 5 лет назад +195

      Green tracer rounds

    • @joshua7586
      @joshua7586 5 лет назад +204

      @@theinstitute1324 red tracer rounds if you're a bad guy

    • @buy.almond3358
      @buy.almond3358 5 лет назад +14

      i was about to suggest tracer rounds

    • @natecollins9331
      @natecollins9331 5 лет назад +12

      @@joshua7586 Sith

    • @S8tan7
      @S8tan7 4 года назад +67

      Joshua Real dont use red ones, you'll convert into a storm trooper and always miss

  • @JimFortune
    @JimFortune 5 лет назад +4135

    This should be the standard side arm issued to all Space Force personnel.

    • @nimbly1693
      @nimbly1693 5 лет назад +80

      Commentary gold that.

    • @Breakfast_and_Bullets
      @Breakfast_and_Bullets 5 лет назад +139

      Only if they make one chambered in 5.7x28mm

    • @Breakfast_and_Bullets
      @Breakfast_and_Bullets 5 лет назад +160

      @Leonard Chornomaz 5.7 is a short enough cartridge (40mm overall length) that it wouldn't need a lot of change to the grip design. Further, it is a small, fast cartridge that lends itself well to piercing armor. If we're talking about the the hypothetical use of this pistol for the Space Force, you have to account for the clothing and vehicles in use. Armor piercing becomes a necessity.
      You could easily fit ten 5.7mm rounds in a sleek gun like this, and you would then have a spacey looking gun with a capable cartridge that gives lower recoil but effective terminal ballistics.
      As a bonus, it means your carbine could use the same cartridge, such as the FN P90. Or if you prefer to keep the M4 look, use AR-57 uppers on M4 lowers.

    • @Vampwatch1462
      @Vampwatch1462 5 лет назад +29

      SPACE FORCE!!!!!

    • @couchbear6108
      @couchbear6108 5 лет назад +19

      Beam me up A. I want to join the space force

  • @Chetanoo
    @Chetanoo 5 лет назад +1791

    the man actually cared about his workers. what a legend.

    • @knutdergroe9757
      @knutdergroe9757 5 лет назад +133

      In small,
      Business,
      And especially small machine shops. Not uncommon in the 1950's.
      And some places, to this day(small business).

    • @hariman7727
      @hariman7727 4 года назад +89

      Caring about the workers is far more common than modern media sources make it seem. Even in larger companies, it often depends on the managers involved, and sometimes even on how often the managers/company gets taken advantage of by greedy employees.
      Like the employee who screws up on attendance, gets the managers to help them on attendance, then still quits/fails to show up again, burning the managers' good will in the store, and screwing it up for the rest of us.

    • @philjohnson796
      @philjohnson796 4 года назад +151

      @@hariman7727 So "greedy employees" are the real problem? Yeah, right.

    • @UlrichVerwey
      @UlrichVerwey 4 года назад +87

      @@philjohnson796 Spoken like someone who's never had employees working under them.
      Can't tell you how often I've had to give employees 4 or 5 chances to either learn to work together with their team or give them a chance to improve or learn from their mistakes.
      Then they still mess up and blame it on anyone but themselves. Then turn around to try and sue the company.
      So yes, shitty/greedy emoloyees do actually exist.

    • @SoManySkinks
      @SoManySkinks 4 года назад +106

      @@UlrichVerwey Large businesses engendered an environment that would erode employee loyalty across generations. Sure, there are certainly bad employees, but a good employee has every reason to put themselves ahead of the business every single time. The rewards for being a good servile are negligible - even if a manager wanted to reward you they probably can't, managers are neutered by the corporate framework almost as much as the people they supervise.
      How many people successfully advance their careers inside a single business anymore? If you want to advance you blade your boss, one way or another.

  • @metamorphicorder
    @metamorphicorder 4 года назад +1590

    A carbine version of this sharing the same design aesthetic would be awesome.

    • @timothyallen6968
      @timothyallen6968 3 года назад +75

      I'd love to see a bullpup rifle version

    • @atomic_wait
      @atomic_wait 3 года назад +55

      A more stylized version of the Beretta Cx4 Storm seems like it could fit that bill.

    • @robertbarker5802
      @robertbarker5802 3 года назад +14

      First thought is the Nylon 66.

    • @ibnyahud
      @ibnyahud 3 года назад +10

      @@timothyallen6968 that would probably double the sci-fi'ish factor

    • @yokothespacewhale
      @yokothespacewhale 3 года назад +14

      @@timothyallen6968 imagine showing someone a bullpup semi auto 22

  • @tjs114
    @tjs114 2 года назад +542

    My Dad and uncle both purchased a Wolverine from a gunsmith in Castro Valley California in 1966. They are the regular ones and the serial numbers are something like 300 different. They paid $100 each according to the shop's price tag still on the boxes. When my uncle passed away, his firearms came to my Dad, so he has both of them now. We took them to a local firing range recently and had the entire staff going ooh and ahh because they'd never seen Whitney's in person other than on your youtube channel.

    • @Rekhan4242
      @Rekhan4242 2 года назад +14

      That's awesome, they are very unique!

    • @matts.1042
      @matts.1042 2 года назад +2

      LMK if they become available!

    • @FloridaRetirementScout
      @FloridaRetirementScout Год назад +7

      Ian McCollum is absolutely the best at what he does. His presentations are mesmerizing.

    • @firepont
      @firepont Год назад +3

      Земля пухом вашему дяде

    • @stevenlord782
      @stevenlord782 10 месяцев назад

      You are privileged sir 👍

  • @FelipeJaquez
    @FelipeJaquez 3 года назад +795

    We got things we're not even allowed to sell here people, only at Mick and Ralphs!

    • @sal_ad
      @sal_ad 3 года назад +13

      rick and malphs is better >:|

    • @roboalexjohn5353
      @roboalexjohn5353 3 года назад +33

      @@sal_ad the home of the wastelands only nuka cola quantum

    • @johnstackhouse1706
      @johnstackhouse1706 3 года назад +43

      An armed society is a polite society

    • @seethenero2555
      @seethenero2555 3 года назад +8

      Ahh a man of culture as well.

    • @thegodfather9734
      @thegodfather9734 3 года назад +12

      Read this in that kids voice lol

  • @fiftyhunnug
    @fiftyhunnug 5 лет назад +1380

    That is probably the coolest .22 pistol I've ever seen

    • @Staingo_Jenkins
      @Staingo_Jenkins 5 лет назад +34

      I don't care to buy a .22 but this gun makes me wanna change my mind!

    • @fiftyhunnug
      @fiftyhunnug 5 лет назад +3

      @@Staingo_Jenkins for sure man

    • @Matkovic99
      @Matkovic99 5 лет назад +40

      Im just imagining this thing in any center fire cartridge. It's a shame this thing didnt take off, just imagine this is thing in 9mm lmfao.

    • @damham5689
      @damham5689 5 лет назад +34

      Look for an Olympic Arms Whitney Wolverine. They recently started making these again.

    • @gunner678
      @gunner678 5 лет назад

      Definitely.

  • @Swarm069
    @Swarm069 5 лет назад +5791

    So in what vault did you find those? And how many caps you want for them?

    • @tjroelsma
      @tjroelsma 5 лет назад +452

      They really look like they wouldn't stand out in Fallout at all, you've called that one right.
      It's sad to see how so many products have faded just because being a competent designer/engineer doesn't mean you're a good businessman. So this looks like yet another decent gun, or at least one with potential, that got killed off because the designer made a bad business deal.

    • @apiocosmico833
      @apiocosmico833 5 лет назад +95

      @@baker90338
      For real?
      I found it in diamond city, well... I didn't bought it, I ended killing everyone there but still, it was free.

    • @PobortzaPl
      @PobortzaPl 5 лет назад +108

      Somebody please create mod that makes this into Deliverer.

    • @epicninja2378
      @epicninja2378 5 лет назад +43

      @@tjroelsma It's not just guns, I've seen many a great video game die or stagnate because it hasn't got advertising or there's something awkward about it that the mainstream don't want to deal with.

    • @EvilSSP
      @EvilSSP 5 лет назад +51

      @@PobortzaPl It would really fit nicely as the Deliverer, much better than one single random PPK in the whole city. This would at least seem more special and justify the rareness.

  • @cruelwraith2games926
    @cruelwraith2games926 5 лет назад +1608

    These are literally the sexiest 22 pistols I've ever seen in my entire freaking life

    • @shadowlancer5148
      @shadowlancer5148 4 года назад +9

      You haven’t been around long have you?

    • @nmarbletoe8210
      @nmarbletoe8210 4 года назад +60

      @@shadowlancer5148 22 years 22 days 22 hours 22 minutes and 8 seconds.

    • @saljps
      @saljps 4 года назад +19

      people that say "sexiest" for objects , this is nostalgic

    • @oskaroskaroskar1693
      @oskaroskaroskar1693 4 года назад +7

      They look like from Devil May Cry 2010

    • @TheVamxie
      @TheVamxie 4 года назад +5

      They are, id call them whitney&wolverine

  • @lancerevell5979
    @lancerevell5979 4 года назад +282

    I had wanted a Whitney since my high school days in the early 1970s, finally bought one in the early 2000s. Nice pistol, very light for it's size. Removing the grips you see the Alcoa name sey into the frame. Accuracy is okay, tending to shoot low at 15 yards. Initially had a lot of fails to chamber, but a light chamfering of the bottom chamber lip cured that. It is a light recoiling action, so standard velocity ammo works well. The grip shape is the best feeling pistol grip I ever held, a very natural pointer. The Olympic repop is much clunkier looking, not as slender and aesthetic as the aluminum original, but Oly magazines and grips are supposed to work on the original pistols.
    This fine pistol should have been a success in the gun market, but bad decisions doomed it.

    • @DieEineMieze
      @DieEineMieze 4 года назад +4

      Now you Gangsta 😎🐥

    • @Patrick_B687-3
      @Patrick_B687-3 3 года назад +20

      Lance, that’s good info and interesting. Did it just pop up, or were you on the hunt for it when you found it? Watching this a couple of times now, I really want one. It’s just too cool.

    • @lancerevell5979
      @lancerevell5979 3 года назад +21

      Just got lucky, saw it on the dealer's table. This was years ago. He had the nickeled pistol too, but it was much more expensive.

    • @Patrick_B687-3
      @Patrick_B687-3 3 года назад +11

      @@lancerevell5979 Thanks for sharing. Congrats on a cool find and very lucky day.

    • @PALACIO254
      @PALACIO254 3 года назад +2

      @@lancerevell5979 I'm a bit late to the party but how much did it go for?

  • @abones900
    @abones900 5 лет назад +2034

    These are just italicized Walther Police Pistols.

    • @1991USsoldier
      @1991USsoldier 5 лет назад +75

      Oh jeez. That actually made me laugh lol.

    • @davidtatelo
      @davidtatelo 5 лет назад +17

      More like a Sig P230 actually, but yikes xD

    • @nubcake67
      @nubcake67 5 лет назад +4

      lmao

    • @gregoriysharapov1936
      @gregoriysharapov1936 5 лет назад +32

      For me it looked like someone tried to copy the Makarov but the image was squished, then the manufacturer copied it wrongly

    • @metamorphicorder
      @metamorphicorder 5 лет назад +1

      Win.

  • @jansenart0
    @jansenart0 5 лет назад +908

    They could've spent a few thousand dollars to produce a Hollywood film featuring this weapon, and it would've had a legacy like the deLorean.

    • @theinstitute1324
      @theinstitute1324 5 лет назад +46

      Who says they still ca- Oh yeah, we're well on our way to losing our freedom. Damn.

    • @SirAroace
      @SirAroace 5 лет назад +50

      @@theinstitute1324 no gun is worth innocent people's lives, The US has more the 6x gun related deaths per capita than any other 1st world nation. Also guns like this are not the main problem anyway.

    • @jeredhersh789
      @jeredhersh789 5 лет назад +86

      @@SirAroace ever stop to think that the US also has a far larger population than most other 1st world countries?

    • @dullan123
      @dullan123 5 лет назад +129

      @@jeredhersh789 Also the majority of those "gun related deaths" are suicides and most gun crimes/homicides happen in "gun-free areas".
      Finally, according to the CDC, defensive gun-use by victims is *at least* as common as offensive use by criminals
      _"Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million, in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008."_
      www.investors.com/politics/columnists/how-many-lives-are-saved-by-guns-and-why-dont-gun-controllers-care/

    • @CD-ek3iq
      @CD-ek3iq 5 лет назад +31

      Padme packs a mini version of this in Phantom Menace. ;)

  • @anonamous9945
    @anonamous9945 5 лет назад +559

    I really like how you have created a "virtual museum" and catalog of not only all of these various weapons of history but also their stories, their real origins - great work!

    • @drdnout
      @drdnout 4 года назад +4

      If you like "virtual museum" check World of guns. Gun disassembly.

    • @ehfoiwehfowjedioheoih4829
      @ehfoiwehfowjedioheoih4829 3 года назад +6

      @@KingJohnMichael what???

    • @nathanb5579
      @nathanb5579 3 года назад +3

      @@KingJohnMichael shitty bait

    • @alejandrorivas4585
      @alejandrorivas4585 3 года назад +3

      Ian very much is our museum curator

    • @canobenitez
      @canobenitez Год назад

      @@alejandrorivas4585 just like the moustache guy from the tank channel, what a great lad

  • @Peterowsky
    @Peterowsky 4 года назад +400

    Basically: Galef killed one of the coolest, most awesome pistols of the 20th century.
    Those idiots.

    • @nate2838
      @nate2838 3 года назад +12

      Well said

    • @jeffbenton6183
      @jeffbenton6183 3 года назад +13

      @@literallyshaking8019 Honestly, I think people would appreciate the aesthetics of that pistol better in the 50s then they would now (you don't see any cars with fins, these days, right?). This was more a case of company politics. The manufacturer wanted to make an interesting new product, but the distributor just wanted to make a buck - and the rest is history.

    • @fenrislegacy
      @fenrislegacy 2 года назад +9

      @@jeffbenton6183 Back when stuff looked cool. Now, everything looks like an electric shaver.

    • @hypnotised-clover
      @hypnotised-clover 2 года назад +5

      @@jeffbenton6183 I think quite a lot of people hate the look of modern things, hence the "retro style" crap that gets made, like radios and cameras and record turn tables, that stuff could never even dream of being as beautiful as a genuine vintage design, of course. It's just like people who buy old cars. Everybody likes the look of old cars.

    • @theFORZA66
      @theFORZA66 26 дней назад

      ​@@jeffbenton6183i think it would be the other way around tbh. Nostalgia is very big these days

  • @tk423b
    @tk423b 5 лет назад +598

    I am pleasantly confused on how you:
    Obtain so much information on the history.
    How you can deliver all this information in what appears to be one take, without notes.
    You do such a good job on these I can’t understand how you do it. Cheers.

    • @stefanmolnapor910
      @stefanmolnapor910 4 года назад +66

      He's Gun Jesus! Duhhhhhh😉

    • @DieEineMieze
      @DieEineMieze 4 года назад +7

      It's his Job, if you didn't notice ....

    • @greasetrap95
      @greasetrap95 4 года назад +12

      My thoughts exactly. This guy is wonderful.

    • @deaconblue949
      @deaconblue949 3 года назад +23

      There is a book written about the history of this pistol available and it appears that Ian has read it. Great gun with a sad ending.

    • @keithsimpson2685
      @keithsimpson2685 3 года назад +20

      There are quite a few cuts but they are well placed. He does specific research for each item and prepares for presentations. Honestly his method/manner is closest to a middle school science teacher in how he treats his audience as not knowing the important stuff but still basic respect. Good tone.

  • @xenophagia
    @xenophagia 5 лет назад +231

    Hillberg sounds like he was a stand up guy. Also, his design is incredible. Never seen anything quite like it.

    • @nealbradleigh5069
      @nealbradleigh5069 3 года назад +7

      Find back issues of Sunday comics. Look for FLASH GORDON (1959 1960s) illustrated by Mac Raboy (?). Some styling influences are quite obviously being shared

  • @soylentgreen7074
    @soylentgreen7074 5 лет назад +595

    I love the futuristic sci-fi designs of the 1950s. The way cars looked, firearms and houses is amazing. Also all of the experimental aircraft and early rocketry was an amazing time with amazing minds in American history. One of my favorite ‘New Age’ firearms from that era is the Remington nylon 66. The whole thing is made out of plastic even the receiver. First of it’s kind. I hope to see you do a video on one eventually.

    • @jonmeray713
      @jonmeray713 5 лет назад +4

      Soylent Green nylon 66 is overrated. 10/22 is superior.

    • @LivvorMorthis
      @LivvorMorthis 5 лет назад +4

      Actually a pretty cool looking rifle (especially with the detachable mag) I didn't know about

    • @soylentgreen7074
      @soylentgreen7074 5 лет назад +31

      Jonathan Meray Of course the Ruger 10/22 is superior. The Nylon 66 was designed to be the cheapest rifle possible so anyone could afford to have fun plinking. I prefer the marlin 795 over both though. The Nylon 66 is just neat because of its innovative design and it’s nostalgia.

    • @Yutter89
      @Yutter89 5 лет назад +6

      Have one myself, have to fit new mags for it is the annoying part. But shoots fine and the weight is low.

    • @oneproudbrowncoat
      @oneproudbrowncoat 5 лет назад +15

      @@LivvorMorthis the Nylon 66 was a tubular magazine. You're thinking of the 77. Had one, years ago.

  • @Zajuts149
    @Zajuts149 5 лет назад +499

    I don't know why, but the concept of "retro-futurism" just hit me. Maybe it's the double-barrelled hit of both nostalgia and hope, dreams of the past coupled with dreams of the future.

    • @kekene719
      @kekene719 5 лет назад +63

      Look at science fiction from before like 1980 or so. It's generally very much more optimistic and hopeful than current scifi. A lot more about exploring the universe for the advancement of humanity and a lot less dystopian post-apocalypses. What that says about society, I'm not sure.

    • @skinnybuggo
      @skinnybuggo 5 лет назад +22

      @@kekene719 we know we're doomed, but we dont care

    • @OslaTheWalrus
      @OslaTheWalrus 5 лет назад +31

      It's a lost future, a future anticipated but never occurred

    • @IvanGarcia-rc1xf
      @IvanGarcia-rc1xf 5 лет назад +7

      Beautifully stated & thoughtful comment

    • @ChristofHarper
      @ChristofHarper 5 лет назад +11

      it's a big deal right now. A lot of people seem to be coming into a sort of retro-futurism as a positive and hopeful thing.

  • @DEFkon001
    @DEFkon001 5 лет назад +139

    I"m Captain Proton and this is my favorite pistol for fighting the evil space lords Doctor Chaotica and Queen Arachnia.
    Had these been more available no doubt they would've shown up in star wars somewhere.

    • @Nyssasaralee
      @Nyssasaralee 4 года назад +9

      i understood that reference!

    • @ABW941
      @ABW941 4 года назад +6

      Wouldnt that be star trek?

    • @DEFkon001
      @DEFkon001 4 года назад +15

      @@ABW941 It's a bit of a double edged nerdy reference to two or three pieces of science fiction. If you got all the references you're a Sci-Fi aficionado!
      On Star Trek Voyager the ships helmsman Tom Paris enjoyed spending time on the Holodeck as a fictional character that was essentially 1930's Buck Roger rip off. " Captain Proton "
      The phrase "I'm Commander Shepard and X is my favorite Y" is a reference to the video game series Mass Effect. After achieving some level of fame by saving the universe your character is offered some extra optional cash if you'd willing to shamelessly sponsor various products by making cringe worthy advertisements that started with that phrase.

    • @ABW941
      @ABW941 4 года назад +3

      @@DEFkon001 I knew about the ST reference, but not about the ME3 one. I guess the thing with star wars was about their use of models of real life weapons.

    • @EtherealDoomed
      @EtherealDoomed 4 года назад +1

      I understood that reference!

  • @coolsenjoyer
    @coolsenjoyer 5 лет назад +896

    I feel like Ian left out the most important part about Hillberg's SMG project he was offering to Colt. The SMG in question was chambered in .357 Magnum!

    • @Argonak1
      @Argonak1 4 года назад +27

      Whatever happened to the project?

    • @themadhammer3305
      @themadhammer3305 4 года назад +108

      @@Argonak1 I can only find references to one smg chambered in 357 magnum, however it's a Venezuelan design called the Tor. Nothing in Robert Hillbergs Wiki mentions a .357 smg but if the OP can point us in the right direction I'd love to read about it

    • @jamespuffer2889
      @jamespuffer2889 4 года назад +48

      That’s so cool! I can’t imagine the power a .357 SMG would have (especially the recoil for the shooter), and the damage a .357 round would have when 10-20 rounds are all fired consecutively by an SMG.

    • @emilychb6621
      @emilychb6621 4 года назад +42

      @@jamespuffer2889 It'd be a line straight up to the sky. :p

    • @jackbob3038
      @jackbob3038 4 года назад +4

      Thats quite a punch!

  • @Calvin_Coolage
    @Calvin_Coolage 5 лет назад +844

    I assume these were designed to hunt alien varmints on Mercury.

    • @KSPilo
      @KSPilo 5 лет назад +17

      Daffy Duck's disintegrating pistol...

    • @knutdergroe9757
      @knutdergroe9757 5 лет назад +7

      Mars....
      Definitely, Mars.

    • @TonboIV
      @TonboIV 5 лет назад +8

      You wouldn't want to take anything aluminum to Mercury. It would melt.

    • @isabelladestegonzaga5529
      @isabelladestegonzaga5529 5 лет назад

      Calvin_Coolage ;
      hm...glaubst du , das repitieren funktioniert in schwerelosigkeit ?

    • @arghgrmbl
      @arghgrmbl 5 лет назад

      @@TonboIV not as fast as your hand...

  • @griffn14
    @griffn14 5 лет назад +105

    Bloody hell, the rear sight. The awesomeness of simplicity.

  • @Kellanium
    @Kellanium 5 лет назад +468

    "You gotta be careful with this"
    *immediately drops cocking handle*

    • @googleuser5062
      @googleuser5062 5 лет назад +12

      well i mean, its not THAT brittle

    • @cancer_stixx
      @cancer_stixx 5 лет назад +17

      As soon as I saw that happen I came scrolling down looking for this comment

    • @NA-sb7xz
      @NA-sb7xz 5 лет назад +2

      Same thought lol

    • @Jay_Sullivan
      @Jay_Sullivan 5 лет назад +1

      Unnaturally_Aspirate , I started scrolling, read this comment, and less than 3 seconds later it happened.

    • @richcampoverde
      @richcampoverde 4 года назад

      It is called an ear

  • @larrywhalen127
    @larrywhalen127 4 года назад +52

    I remember this pistol very well as my Brother and I were discussing what would be best gun for me to have as my first gun, and since he was involved in match shooting and later as a sniper, he had very strong opinions that for anyone who would take up shooting, it was imperative they know how to hit what they were shooting at with ONE SHOT, so obviously an "automatic" was out as was a lever action, and eventually even a bolt action capable of mutiple shots.
    So in1958 on my twelvth birthday, my first gun was a Colt Colteer bolt action, single shot rifle in .22 caliber (s/l/lr) from Western Field which I still have today, sixty-two years later and it still prints in the bulls eye at 100 yds consistantly even after having a few thousand rounds run through it.
    I first saw the Whitney at a gun store in Oklahoma City and it immediately captivated my imagination, the thing looked like it belonged in a holster worn by Buck Rogers, or my personal hero, Commando Cody, but because by then he had also given me a 146B Mossberg and a semi-automatic rifle, also by Mossberg I put the Whitney on the back-shelf for later.
    But when Reminton introduced the Nylon 66 in 1959, THAT was IT for me, since it had those same 'futuristic' lines - down to the front sight and I also still have it as well, plus an Apache 77 in Seneca Green from K-Mart and I can't remember ever having a malfunction due to either rifle, a couple of misfires which still would not fire when loaded into my High Standard Sentinel revolver, which I later gave to my brother.
    If I can locate one in good to excellent condition and the price appeals to me at the time I probably will pick it up, mostly to use for awhile and then leave it to my son along with a very special High Standard Sport King which my Brother gave me when he retired from the 'service'.
    Always enjoy your videos on the various weapons you discuss since there are always a few things I'm able to gleen from the information you have to offer.n

    • @pewpewTN
      @pewpewTN 2 года назад +2

      Hope you have found one.

  • @GorRex
    @GorRex 5 лет назад +32

    This is not a joke but when i cant sleep at night and i watch one of the forgotten weapons video, it actually helps me sleep

  • @petesheppard1709
    @petesheppard1709 5 лет назад +160

    I like the anodized pistol better, would be a blast to take to the range. It was refreshing to hear about Mr. Hillberg's integrity and care for his workers; a shame they didn't make a better marketing deal.
    Your comparison to a Ruger's disassembly brought a chuckle. It seems to me that every Ruger has some sort of 'Gotcha!' in their field-strip procedure--especially their Standard .22s.

    • @jimvandemoter6961
      @jimvandemoter6961 5 лет назад +17

      My first pistol was a Ruger .22/45. The first time I cleaned it it took about a half hour to take it down and about four hours to put it back together.

    • @scottmillner
      @scottmillner 5 лет назад +6

      Take a look at the Nickel Whitney Rock Island Auctions sold in 2015. I think it takes the cake

    • @lancerevell5979
      @lancerevell5979 4 года назад

      When I first field stripped my Whitney, I had the good fortune to find instructions and photos in a. 22 pistol disassembly book. Once you do it the first time, it's easy.
      Try a Nylon 66 rifle sometime. THAT is an exercise in frustration.

  • @Procket12
    @Procket12 5 лет назад +256

    Time Travelers show up: "I'LL TAKE YOUR ENTIRE STOCK."

    • @mcdoctorglock
      @mcdoctorglock 5 лет назад +9

      Did you travel back in time after I did, but before I arrived? When I got there they were all out. I was thinking the same thing, damn you! ;)

    • @codeinecowboy8607
      @codeinecowboy8607 4 года назад +2

      Paul Allen hipster time travelers

    • @seanm4095
      @seanm4095 4 года назад

      @@mcdoctorglock love this whole dialogue lololz!

    • @bearursidae42069
      @bearursidae42069 4 года назад

      You’re absolutely godamn right if I had the capability best believe I’d buy this space looking gun

  • @BennettIsAmazing
    @BennettIsAmazing 5 лет назад +70

    I know you do your research before the videos - but you really are a very knowledgeable and articulate man.

  • @markzimmerman7198
    @markzimmerman7198 5 лет назад +21

    Does anyone remember the Zebra BB Gun? It's a Whitney Replica, in plastic! They were popular in the 70's. There are some still out there for sale, complete with the yellow rubber BBs.

    • @garymelchisky2880
      @garymelchisky2880 Год назад

      Yes, my cousin and I each had one. Wasn't until much later I realized my toy was based on a real gun

    • @life_of_riley88
      @life_of_riley88 3 месяца назад

      We had those in the 90's!

  • @Firebirds4ever
    @Firebirds4ever Год назад +16

    That is in the top 5 best looking pistols of all time! Such a beautiful work of art!

  • @Echowhiskeyone
    @Echowhiskeyone 5 лет назад +42

    I had a disk shooter gun as a kid that was similar to this design. Always liked it. Now I know where the design came from.

    • @moejartin3258
      @moejartin3258 5 лет назад +2

      I had those, the yellow and red guns?

    • @joshglover2370
      @joshglover2370 5 лет назад +2

      Me too! Mine was yellow.

    • @charlesmiller6826
      @charlesmiller6826 5 лет назад +10

      As well as the Zebra gun that shot yellow b.b.s

    • @pbase36
      @pbase36 5 лет назад +6

      Had both the plastic BB and the disc gun. Mine was brown. Thanks for helping me remember why this gun looked so familiar!!

    • @johnedisto6741
      @johnedisto6741 5 лет назад +1

      green and yellow

  • @smithwesson1896
    @smithwesson1896 5 лет назад +722

    Perfect for ridding your lawn of those pesky little green men

    • @joedonnelly387
      @joedonnelly387 5 лет назад +8

      Or are they pulsars

    • @davidam9454
      @davidam9454 5 лет назад +9

      Watch out the green ones are relatively harmless compared to the blue ones, and the pink ones just hide in the closet. The preceding is humor (I hope), and should not be taken as en endorsement to blast away at oddly colored beings of unknown origin or species. Made in the assumption that firearm users should at least have a sense of humor

    • @americanmade6996
      @americanmade6996 5 лет назад +8

      Hope y'all realize those are the neighbor's garden gnomes. Please clean your shooting glasses. :)

    • @americanmade6996
      @americanmade6996 5 лет назад

      @Chris Spencer Urs maybe, not mine. Try more fiber.

    • @foleymaj
      @foleymaj 5 лет назад +1

      You can do just fine with 9mm against russians.

  • @charlesmiller6826
    @charlesmiller6826 5 лет назад +47

    Even in the face of failure Mr. Hillberg did it with grace and class. Kudos to him and why is he so unheard of, we could use more stories about him and his like these days.

  • @Anubis78250
    @Anubis78250 4 года назад +8

    I had a toy replica of one of these as a kid.
    It's best feature was how smoothly it went into and out of your pocket-holster.

  • @svndwich977
    @svndwich977 2 года назад +3

    Back 3 years later to figure out how to put it back together.
    Turns out I’ve been putting the washer and key on backwards this whole time. Thanks for the video again. Fun gun, even if it likes to jam

    • @lancerevell5979
      @lancerevell5979 10 месяцев назад +1

      Mine was a jammomatic until I chamfered and polished the bottom edge of the chamber. Slicked it up considerably.

  • @Leo___________
    @Leo___________ 5 лет назад +273

    "didn't think they would be able to get away with a plastic frame" ... *Laughs in Gaston Glock*

    • @ben41281
      @ben41281 5 лет назад +52

      Plastics of 1950's weren't as good.

    • @SonicsniperV7
      @SonicsniperV7 5 лет назад +27

      To be fair a lot of people, especially "old timers" were skeptical of any sort of polymer/plastic gun parts until around Vietnam and the M16, IIRC.

    • @bdgluth
      @bdgluth 5 лет назад +8

      @@SonicsniperV7 and the bashed the m16 for sucking in Nam

    • @bdgluth
      @bdgluth 5 лет назад +3

      Leo you win the internet!

    • @jeffreyskoritowski4114
      @jeffreyskoritowski4114 5 лет назад +2

      That's Saint Gaston Glock to you.

  • @spencerredmon3569
    @spencerredmon3569 4 года назад +19

    A weird gun made by a bunch of genuinely cool people. A real shame it never took off. Would love to see these around today, I think they look awesome (which they were clearly meant to)

  • @734baggins
    @734baggins Месяц назад

    What a great video!
    My Grandpa was a gunsmith (Bob’s Gun Shop in Wyoming, Michigan). Blued his metal, carved his stocks…amazing craftsman. Sold the brands of the day…Remington, Browning, Winchester, Savage, etc. in addition to his handmade rifles and shotguns back in the 50s through the 80s.
    When he bought a gun for himself or a family member, it was always something unique and of quality.
    I’m now in my 60s and have Whitney Wolverine SN 26243 which passed to me when he died.
    I had no idea of the history and story behind this gun.
    I’m so amazed at the depth of knowledge here and in how well you shared the information. Just wow!
    Thank you for sharing and bringing me back to the wonderful memories of my best babysitter…my Grandpa.
    RIP Grandpa. See you soon…

  • @theNoogler88
    @theNoogler88 Год назад +6

    Thanks for this video: without it I wouldn't have known that the firing pin is free floating, because I was worried about my newly acquired one. You're awesome, Ian

  • @700NitroXpress
    @700NitroXpress 2 года назад +9

    I'm now the proud owner of one of these blued versions, saw one at auction and had to have it.

  • @AgnumMD
    @AgnumMD 3 года назад +20

    It really sounds like Ian is saying, without saying "This is not a genuine nickel finish."

  • @sparky6855
    @sparky6855 3 года назад +9

    These need to be brought back on the market

  • @crimzonplays1134
    @crimzonplays1134 3 года назад +7

    I actually have a dollar store Bb shooter that looks almost exactly like the Whitney Wolverine. And I'm glad they did, because oh my gosh it is so comfy.
    Small rant aside, thank you so much Ian for enlightening us with your magnificent voice and fascinating backstory on this wonderful firearm.

  • @themarlboromandalorian
    @themarlboromandalorian 3 года назад +21

    When a mandalorian courts a mate, this is the engagement ring.
    They need to do another run of them with titanium and carbon fibre construction.
    They'd sell well.

    • @noble5856
      @noble5856 2 года назад +1

      Chambered in 5.7 too

  • @KP762a
    @KP762a 4 года назад +98

    I want one in 9x19mm made in all stainless steel, with a 5" barrel.

    • @falloutman3424
      @falloutman3424 3 года назад +8

      You can say that for every gun

    • @loganjefferies3927
      @loganjefferies3927 3 года назад +6

      I want one in 50-90 sharps...with a 4 inch barrel.

    • @falloutman3424
      @falloutman3424 3 года назад +5

      @@loganjefferies3927 I want one in 300 win mag

    • @loganjefferies3927
      @loganjefferies3927 3 года назад +4

      Falloutman 342 I see from your subscriptions you are a man of good taste. I want one in 2mm EC as a companion for a gauss rifle.

    • @falloutman3424
      @falloutman3424 3 года назад +2

      @@loganjefferies3927 why thank you good sir

  • @jesseerickson662
    @jesseerickson662 Год назад +5

    Man I want one. It looks so comfortable and sleek. Just all around awesome.

    • @lancerevell5979
      @lancerevell5979 10 месяцев назад +1

      I have 2XL size hands, and most gun grips feel smallish. This pistol's grip fits me perfectly, like it was designed for me.

  • @rake483
    @rake483 5 лет назад +158

    when active: 20% faster movement speed

  • @chriss8206
    @chriss8206 4 года назад +11

    One of the most stylish handguns I've ever seen. I wish more guns would try to styled like this one.

  • @usergonemad
    @usergonemad 5 лет назад +5

    These were also the basis for a line of toy pistols made in the '70s and early '80s which fired yellow rubber BBs propelled by spring power. I had 2 of them, one blue plastic and the other gold plastic. They were scaled down for smaller hands but were virtually identical in appearance. They also shot very well for toy guns.

    • @ghostmanscores1666
      @ghostmanscores1666 Год назад +1

      Yes definitely. Also the little plastic disks.
      Mine was sold as a Star Trek gun.

    • @garymelchisky2880
      @garymelchisky2880 Год назад +1

      My cousin and I had the same toy guns in the 70s. Mine was blue, his was gold. They shot the little BBs. Called the Zebra II, I think? It wasn't until decades later I realized they were based on a real gun, the Whitney

  • @startedtech
    @startedtech 5 лет назад +118

    Man, I wish Uberti or someone would reproduce those.

    • @SgtKOnyx
      @SgtKOnyx 5 лет назад +1

      The Neos is close, but I don't know if those are available anymore either

    • @bleh8789
      @bleh8789 5 лет назад +5

      Olympic arms are making these

    • @BillCoffin
      @BillCoffin 5 лет назад +7

      The company is being bought out and it appears that the Wolverine line is suspended for the time being. As it was, they were putting out Wolverines in a number of different colored polymer frames, but none in that awesome aluminum.

    • @supermario2100
      @supermario2100 5 лет назад +2

      Olympic Arms did some polymer versions, but they're kinda ugly in black imo. Unless you want one in pink, that is.

    • @Mrdax707
      @Mrdax707 5 лет назад +5

      Yes, and they don't work very well and are not well regarded.

  • @tomchilds9585
    @tomchilds9585 5 лет назад +120

    "Ah, yes, this is a nice pistol..." -Sean Connery

    • @nimbly1693
      @nimbly1693 5 лет назад +8

      I heard his voice in my head as I read that.

    • @FireballFoundry
      @FireballFoundry 4 года назад +12

      Ah, yesh, thish ish a nishhe pishtul.

    • @rogertycholiz2218
      @rogertycholiz2218 3 года назад

      Josh --- What kind of speech impediment did James Bond {Shawn Connary} have? He definitely didn't speak normally.

  • @Asertix357
    @Asertix357 2 года назад +9

    These were genuinely gorgeous pistols. Let's hope we see some company producing a resurgence of them.

  • @-_Nuke_-
    @-_Nuke_- 5 лет назад +107

    "Forgotten blasters" :D

    • @Dumbrarere
      @Dumbrarere 4 года назад +3

      That's a good point. A pistol like this (minus the firing pin, ofc) would make a good movie or TV show prop.

    • @Mr-Trox
      @Mr-Trox 3 года назад +1

      @@Dumbrarere Padme had a miniature version of this in Phantom Menace.

  • @stephanematis
    @stephanematis 5 лет назад +48

    The sidenote warms my heart. Wish such things were still true today.

    • @natebiese8795
      @natebiese8795 5 лет назад +3

      depends on the size of the company and the individual, I can see the owner of the shop I work for writing out a personal letter of recommendation and calling his industry buddies to see if they'd hire his ex employees. Small shop, he literally works on the next machine over.

  • @donaldbarden6294
    @donaldbarden6294 3 года назад +3

    When I was a kid in the early 70’s there was a toy gun that shot little yellow rubber balls that looked just like this pistol. As I recall, the toy company called it a Llama.

  • @lorenbusch29
    @lorenbusch29 4 года назад +4

    What is not mentioned about the Whiney Wolverine is that they are an absolute joy to shoot!! Mine still gets used on a regular basis.

    • @lancerevell5979
      @lancerevell5979 10 месяцев назад +1

      A superb grip fit, very comfy. And mine has a light crisp trigger. Wish it had more conventional sights though.

    • @pewpewTN
      @pewpewTN 9 месяцев назад

      It's cool to hear that these things are still in use & not just locked up in safes.
      Keep these things alive.

  • @ultrablue2
    @ultrablue2 5 лет назад +3

    Such a graceful, elegant pistol.

  • @ballbby3775
    @ballbby3775 2 года назад +6

    I love this little pistol, so sleek. It looks like something from the 70s idea what of the future looks like. It's definitely a neat little pistol.

    • @helicocktor
      @helicocktor Год назад +2

      By the 70s the Atomic Age design language was considered outdated. It died off in the mid 60s.

  • @AldanFerrox
    @AldanFerrox 5 лет назад +64

    Reminds me of a futuristic looking Colt Woodsman.

  • @widgren87
    @widgren87 5 лет назад +125

    Not that I can afford (or legally acquire ) one but I wouldn't mind owning one as a display peace because that is a gorgeous design in my opinion :-)

    • @Tuton25
      @Tuton25 5 лет назад +3

      Where are you located?

    • @classicbandgeek
      @classicbandgeek 5 лет назад +12

      @@Tuton25 Judging by his avatar, I'd wager it's Sweden

    • @potatoradio
      @potatoradio 5 лет назад +16

      You can always get the zebra II plastic rubber ball shooting toy.

    • @widgren87
      @widgren87 5 лет назад +6

      @@classicbandgeek And you would be correct :-)

    • @widgren87
      @widgren87 5 лет назад +9

      @@potatoradio 25 years ago maybe :-)

  • @nadagainagain4987
    @nadagainagain4987 2 года назад +8

    One of the best looking handguns ever designed.

  • @Atomic1710
    @Atomic1710 3 года назад +33

    This should’ve been James Bonds gun

  • @docgonzodotcom
    @docgonzodotcom 5 лет назад +38

    Finally, 7 years after the book review, the gun itself :)

    • @notgray88
      @notgray88 5 лет назад

      I'm still waiting for the Vetterli review

  • @d33b33
    @d33b33 5 лет назад +89

    It's more Barbarella than Buck Rogers. Let me pull up a pic of Barbarella's awesome rifle on my Pipboy.

    • @Clay3613
      @Clay3613 5 лет назад +8

      Jango Fett's blasters.

    • @davenewton3576
      @davenewton3576 5 лет назад +11

      I'll just settle for a pic if Jane Fonda as Barbarella 😁

    • @theinstitute1324
      @theinstitute1324 5 лет назад +1

      @@derschwartzadder probably WERE these pistols, you know how they cut up guns for those movies lol

  • @Sip_Dhit
    @Sip_Dhit 5 лет назад +28

    This with a g11 as a main, so I can be a retro-futuristic spaceman

  • @hizzaddinno394
    @hizzaddinno394 3 года назад +2

    The rear sight is what I like the most - it's so simple and minimalistic yet functions well. I know Dieter Rams would love the design of this rear sight, it's the design solution he espouses all minimalist designers to look for.

  • @garchamp9844
    @garchamp9844 5 лет назад +133

    What's your favorite thing about space? Mine is space.

    • @Erdanya
      @Erdanya 5 лет назад +17

      @Asriel I love space. I know! Spell it! S P... AACE. Space. Space.

    • @grahamlopez6202
      @grahamlopez6202 5 лет назад +9

      Space too big. Wanna go to earth. Earth earth.

    • @Breakfast_and_Bullets
      @Breakfast_and_Bullets 5 лет назад +7

      Fact: Garchamp will never go to space
      Fact: Space does not exist
      Fact: Users that insist on going into space are inferior to those that don't

    • @stevendeatley4878
      @stevendeatley4878 5 лет назад

      all that cheese in the Moon

    • @elementdavid85
      @elementdavid85 5 лет назад

      no one can hear you scream

  • @JamesRednok
    @JamesRednok 5 лет назад +51

    "Ah yesh, thish ish a nicsh pishtol."

  • @DrThunder88
    @DrThunder88 3 года назад +2

    22:57
    Ian: "This is something you need to be careful with."
    *drops it*
    My heart sank when I saw that! I'm glad that wasn't the type of treatment you were talking about.

  • @curiosity1987able
    @curiosity1987able 5 лет назад +2

    Not only does this look so beautiful, i bet this pistol feels great in the hand.

  • @tripleog9557
    @tripleog9557 5 лет назад +8

    Great 👍🏼 job Ian. I can see all the research u did on this one. All the details about Whitney paying off the dept and finding jobs for employees. And the sight is brilliant. wonderful story , those where the days

  • @floopydoopy9410
    @floopydoopy9410 3 года назад +8

    Damn that’s a sexy gun, looks like something straight out of James Bond

  • @Oblithian
    @Oblithian Год назад +2

    It still amazes me, these guns look like they were built yesterday.

  • @paulEG6
    @paulEG6 5 лет назад +6

    I’d love one of the early design boxes just to have on display, I have a bit of a thing for 50’s packaging design and that’s a beaut!

  • @MasterOfHelium
    @MasterOfHelium 5 лет назад +3

    It's been said a lot of times that a competent firearms designer is not necessarily just as competent as a businessman, but this story really tells that if you want it done right, you'd better do it yourself!

  • @raistlin2k3
    @raistlin2k3 2 года назад +4

    honestly.. one of the most beautiful guns i've ever seen :)

  • @loftsatsympaticodotc
    @loftsatsympaticodotc 5 лет назад +1

    Wow, Ian, you are indeed a MASTER at the intricate details of how this whole corporate creation and dissolution of yet another worthy firearms manufacturing venture went down financially....... literally. I was so fascinated by your step by step delineation, stopped in admiration to scribble this.... and now at minute 9:30...
    I rejoin the dessertation. ;-) ... cheers, from Canada.
    PS: I was an avid reader of Field & Stream and 'Outdoor Life" in those late '50s and remember with nostalgia
    seeing these Flash Gordon styled pistol ads. Who knew, at the time... how it would end! Un gros merci ! .

  • @theheartlessknight2426
    @theheartlessknight2426 2 года назад +1

    What a shame. Those are beautiful!!
    You kept saying, Buck Rodgers but I immediately thought; Mando. ❤❤
    Thank you for featuring these!

  • @DanoFSmith-yc9tg
    @DanoFSmith-yc9tg 3 года назад +6

    That’s not a gun, it’s a fine piece of art!

  • @josephbolz4550
    @josephbolz4550 4 года назад +4

    That was an excellent comprehensive presentation. I wish I’d have bought one back when they were a couple hundred bucks.

  • @calebneff5777
    @calebneff5777 4 года назад +3

    Really cool story. Sounds like a great guy who made some unfortunate decisions but made things right in the end. Also that sight idea is super cool.

  • @kaylamarie8309
    @kaylamarie8309 11 месяцев назад +1

    I remember having a toy pistol that looks exactly like this gun back in the 70's when I was little. It actually shot little rubber pea size balls or small discs, I can't remember which now but it was a dead ringer for this cool real pistol.

  • @mrdaynne
    @mrdaynne 5 лет назад +2

    Grew up using one of these. Still love it.
    So unique.

  • @mightywaffle51
    @mightywaffle51 5 лет назад +4

    Aesthetically speaking, my favorite firearm of all time. Thank you so much for this video!

  • @SovietGrazz
    @SovietGrazz 4 года назад +15

    "Ahh yes, this is a nice pistol!' - Most hilarious voice impression Ian has ever done. Had me in stitches!

  • @pedrourbano501
    @pedrourbano501 2 года назад

    These guns have one of the sleekiest most awsome designs ever, simple and complex at the same time.

  • @truebeliever5233
    @truebeliever5233 5 лет назад

    Thank you for destroying my productivity today. As a new viewer, I am now binge watching all of your videos.
    You are one of the best firearms video producers out there with only facts and no bs filler.

  • @Mrcaffinebean
    @Mrcaffinebean 5 лет назад +4

    One of my all time favorite.22s. Downright beautiful!

  • @Geeko170
    @Geeko170 5 лет назад +8

    I want one of these so bad! They look so COOL!!

  • @Andrew-sv6zq
    @Andrew-sv6zq 4 месяца назад

    Thank you for so much information on this pistol. I have an original Wolverine in my collection. Just the gun. No box or paperwork. I also have a low serial number in the 101 range with Wolverine on the side of it. I found my at a pawn shop many years ago. I knew what it was and I bought it for under $300 back in 1997. It's been a safe queen ever since. No, it's not for sale!

  • @rickleplubo5554
    @rickleplubo5554 3 года назад +2

    i genuinely believe this is the most beautiful pistol ever made.

  • @loftsatsympaticodotc
    @loftsatsympaticodotc 5 лет назад +3

    Wow, another of your low key, very informative historicals, Ian. Bravo. Very interesting. I remember seeing those advertised in the early '60s in gun magazines, etc. Too bad I didn't buy one then :-( .

  • @j.h-j5j
    @j.h-j5j 3 года назад +4

    I really like the design of the pistol. It looks like a handgun that a martian from of a science fiction novel would use.

  • @robertshelnutt5081
    @robertshelnutt5081 5 лет назад

    I actually shot one of these. A friend of mine from high school Father bought one in ~ 1968, IIRC. The blue version. The finish was beautiful. Only had one magazine, and we spent a Saturday afternoon burning through a brick of ammo. Very reliable, no jams or misfires, fairly accurate, and a bunch of fun for the afternoon. Never did find a holster for it. I used to see them advertised in Rifleman and G & A until the mid-1970s, so someone had a stockpile, somewhere, but I never actually saw another one. Love to find one of the polymer versions.

  • @ParoxyDM
    @ParoxyDM 4 года назад +1

    That is the most beautiful pistol I've ever seen. Thanks for the video!

  • @phillipsullivan3400
    @phillipsullivan3400 5 лет назад +74

    Anyone remember the Zebra toy pistols that shot yellow rubber BBs?

    • @charlesmiller6826
      @charlesmiller6826 5 лет назад +14

      Air soft before it was air soft, but a point blank from a Zebra was anything but soft......ahhh, fun times, fun times for sure

    • @mrsaturdaynightspecial3055
      @mrsaturdaynightspecial3055 5 лет назад +5

      Yes, I still have mine.

    • @williestyle35
      @williestyle35 5 лет назад

      I was gonna say that same thing.

    • @khartog01
      @khartog01 5 лет назад +2

      I had one as a kid.

    • @erikv.smykal5578
      @erikv.smykal5578 5 лет назад +1

      YES! just dropped a comment about that, hadn't scrolled down far enough to see this thread!

  • @wpatrickw2012
    @wpatrickw2012 5 лет назад +5

    Beautiful pistol. One of the few auto pistols that does not look like a cross between a gun and a carrying case. I had a pellet gun based on the Whitney when I was a kid; even back then I loved the elegant design.

  • @JanKowalski-rd7yb
    @JanKowalski-rd7yb 3 года назад +3

    Beautiful gun, it immediately reminded me of Beretta U22 Neos, which is also chambered in .22LR, but I dare to say this one is prettier. I also really like the design of the magazine.

  • @Mengmoshu
    @Mengmoshu 4 года назад

    Some really slick and clever little stamped parts.

  • @harrisonlewis6853
    @harrisonlewis6853 5 лет назад

    Ian: I dont know everything about the marketing of the whitney but a bell went off in my head about seeing possibly a wolverine being sold in a comic book in 1965-1968. When I collected comics and always checked out the ads in them. I bought my 1st. blackpowder revolver from a comic book ad. It was sold by the Navy Arms company. I paid $49 plus $2.50 for shipping.