Gretsch G5422 vs Epiphone Casino? [Plus Gretsch TV Jones Pickup Fit] -That Pedal Show
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- Two double-cut hollow body semi-acoustics, both with new pickups - which one would you choose?
Life too short for long RUclips videos? Please see the ‘Interesting bits and go-to sections’ information below.
Welcome to the vlog. Warning: this one is a bit of a slog so if you just want to hear the guitars and skip all the waffle, the timings below and the timestamps in the video will help you.
But for those of you who do like to torture yourselves, I hope you enjoy this journey. It started as a Gretsch pickup fit idea, but having just done the Casino and given their relative similarity as guitars… well, it was begging for a comparison. So that’s how it ended up!
I start by comparing the Casino and the Gretsch before the Gretsch pickup swap, then labour through the pickup fit before comparing them again. There’s even a bit of ‘music’ so you can hear them in context towards the end.
Please enjoy the episode!
Pedals & stuff in this episode…
Signal order for the board:
Wah, Tweedy, octave, TS808, Klon, split…
Harmonious Monk, then Vent, both to Two-Rock only
Delay and reverb stereo to both amps
(Tweedy, octave, TS808 and Klon hit both amps)
TheGigRig G3 Atom takes care of all signal routing, splits wet/dry/parallel and stereo
Wah, Tweedy and octave are outside of G3, before loop 1. TS808 is loop 1, Klon loop 2, Monk in 3, Vent in 4, delay in 5, reverb in 6.
• Schmidt Array SA525 pedalboard
www.schmidtarr...
• JAM Pedals Wahcko Wah (not in shot)
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2E38Cnq
Australia: bit.ly/33XQl5U
USA: bit.ly/3xufge2
• Dan Drive Tweedy
Find Dan on Facebook and Instagram
• Mythos Argo Octave Fuzz
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2UT0EVw
Australia: bit.ly/3qt3Y4s
USA: bit.ly/3FU1u7r
• Ibanez Tube Screamer TS808 (Keeley plus mod)
No longer available
• Klon Centaur Professional Overdrive
Mainly available used. Also find Bill Finnegan on eBay
• JAM Pedals Harmonious Monk
UK & Europe: bit.ly/3pEkgHC
Australia:bit.ly/3rJBJAb
USA: bit.ly/3p4En2Z
• Neo Instruments Mini Vent II
UK & Europe: Try the Micro Vent too, bit.ly/3es67v0
Australia: bit.ly/38l8KYS
USA: imp.i114863.ne...
• Free The Tone Future Factory FF-1Y RF Phase Modulated Delay
UK & Europe: bit.ly/3oFVZ4j
• Chase Bliss Audio CXM 1978
UK & Europe: bit.ly/31U6LKu
Australia: bit.ly/37R8McD
USA: bit.ly/3xs8Ewo
• TheGigRig G3 Atom
www.thegigrig....
* Why do we have preferred retailer links? Find out here: www.thatpedalsh...
Interesting bits and go-to sections…
- These two guitars: 00:32
- Similarities and differences: 02:22
- Sound comparisons pre-pickup change: 03:58
- Thoughts so far: 13:48
- Filter’Trons? Nah… 14:27
- How much?! 16:40
- The pickup fit begins: 17:45
- Do the knobs fit?: 19:00
- Pulling out the old wiring: 20:50
- English mount / pickup ring adapters: 23:01
- Reamer?: 25:14
- The magic tube for component mounting: 26:00
- Reaming out the control holes: 28:35
- Neck or bridge pickup - which is which?: 29:45
- Putting the harness in the guitar: 35:00
- Strings: 40:10
- New pickup sounds & Epi comparison: 41:10
- Let’s play a track with both guitars!: 54:04
- Final thoughts and ponderings: 58:35
Guitars in this episode:
• 2017 Epiphone Casino, fitted with Lollar Dogear P90 pickups
• 2016 Gretsch 5422TG fitted with TV Jones T-Armond pickups (English mount)
Amps in this episode
• Two Rock Classic Reverb Signature with 212 cab / TR1265B speakers
• Victory VC35 The Copper with 212 cab / Celestion G12 Greenback and G12 Anniversary speakers
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2NpF31i
USA That Pedal Shop: bit.ly/3SkS5fJ
We hope you enjoy this episode. Please subscribe to our channel.
You can buy TPS merch to support our efforts www.thatpedals...
We are on Patreon - crowdfunding for creatives
/ thatpedalshow
Please visit our preferred retailers!
UK & Europe: Andertons Music bit.ly/2cRvIvt
Australia: Pedal Empire bit.ly/2mWmJQf
USA: That Pedal Shop www.thatpedals...
That Epiphone Casino with those P90's sounds absolutely the business!!!
Thanks!
It also must be mentioned: it looks incredibly sexy with the black plastic P-90s, looks like an expensive axe . Agreed that it sounds great in Micks’ hands too
Do not use reverb. Stole money from me. Their credit. Card security is not safe
@@godbyone how is this relevant?
@@uttherkunst3806 I imagine he is joking about the price of this reverb pedal?
The tone of a Gretsch can be summed up in one word. Romantic. It has such a tone that no other guitar has.
Well there is this one other guitar.
It makes my heart sooo happy to know I’m not the only one who can take a fairly straightforward process like switching pickups and making it a multi day ordeal with a ton of “fiddly” frustrating bits. All this work just to get a new sound that will instantly be criticized by my wife saying “I can’t tell a difference?” Lol
Indeed. Mine too. ‘What a colossal waste of time, but if it makes you happy, cool. Can you please now do something that //does// earn us some money?’ Was the principle response. Hahahahaah!
@@ThatPedalShow I've replaced pickups 7 times on 4 different guitars and I'll never forget how fiddly and frustrating my first change to my 335 was. I was laughing along so hard watching you get frustrated changing your casino pickups because I remember feeling the exact same way ha ha. Glad to know I'm not alone. My wife also made fun of me for spending all night and all day trying to replace those pickups.
❤@@DanielFavio
@@ThatPedalShowwe must have the same wife then😂
The low end in the Gretsch is so rubbery, it’s gorgeous!
Rubbery, perfect description.
That look on your face smiling playing the Casino says it all.... You love playing that guitar... and we love hearing it! Awesome playing
Perfect timing. Just sat down to lunch in the Scottish sunshine. A rare treat.
Tatties and neaps I hope. :0)
A traditional Scottish..... Thai Stir Fry.
Summer came early this year then. 😂
You must be in a sunnier part of Scotland than me! Grey skies over Glasgow
@@davidburnsmusic So, what else?
epiphone was a more open twang and the gretsch was a sophisticated tidier sound, the epiphone is brash in your face and the gretsch is subtle sweet.. that's how it sounded to me, both nice guitars.
Sounds stellar. Looking forward to hearing more Gretsch on the show!
In the event no one has mentioned it, use a capo to hold the string to the neck while you get it put thru the tuners and to some tension.
It’ll save you time and money on swear jar deposits.
I can't believe I never thought of this before, thank you!
Also, you can pre-bend the string into a hook-ish kind of shape by using some plyers so they don't come off.
There's some useful tips on Mike Adams (@puisheen)'s channel for Bigsby vibratos
Great tips! I watched several videos on changing the strings on Bigsby-equipped guitars to figure out how to easily change the strings, but then I bought an after market device from Vibramate called the String Spoiler and it solved that problem quite handily.
...also check out the Vibramate Spoiler. Simples.
The real life pro tip is always in the comments 😎
I had an oddly specific set of questions tonight and this video (in addition to your other 5422TG videos...) answered all of them. Such great content consistently coming from this channel. Great work!
Mick just triggered ancient memories. My mum and brother used to work at Halfords in Guildford in 1970/71 before we moved to Australia, and I went to school with some Andertons. Thanks Mick. 👍😁👍
Those new pickups on the the 5422 sound so good!
Great episode - love the whole thing, and the track at the end is great! The TVJones pups are a revelation in that guitar.
Thank you Vince!
You are so real... I love it!!" You are me, from your self battles to the semi ocd..I wish I could play like you though. Great video Mick!!!
Thank you! I think all guitar players are a little bit the same. :0)
Beautiful day here in Germany, finally some sun, I'm off and enjoying this with a cuppa. Perfect day?
As Swamper and Muscle Shoals legend Jimmy Johnson told me once “ain’t no money up on that high end of the neck “
He spake much truthing!
As someone once said, "There ain't no money above the fifth fret", or something like that.
And then along came Eric Clapton and Jimmy Page 😂
He’s never met Steve Vai, but that’s prob because only one of them lives up in the Hollywood Hills.
@@davidtomkins4242 he’s dead , but he did play on over 100 top ten songs
The Gretch sounds amazing and those Lollar P90's have elevated the Casino immeasurably. Great playing Mick! Pickups make all the difference - they are to an electric guitar as a speaker is to an amp.
Thank you Alfred. I still constantly surprised when I pick it up! I'll be doing the 335 next. Hoping for a similar life-giving transformation. Cheeres!
Mick, With so many comparison videos on You Tube that leave the viewer no better off at the end of the demonstration than they were at the beginning I think you did a great job tying it all together with the split screen video at the end. Nicely done brother! That video allowed the viewer to see that both guitars work, and work well. Yes they are both different and that's OK. Again, nice work. You guys always keep me coming back for more!
Thank you Darwin, much appreciated!
I’ve heard ppl say that Gretsch is what ppl think of when they want to buy a guitar but end up buying something else. Personally I love my electromatic.
Same here
Likewise. I own a 2019 Airline Silver Electromatic Jet, which I’ve upgraded and modified over the last 2.5 years into an amazing psychedelic/stoner rock machine. It can do everything from brutal to ethereal. I also own one of the G2255-P90s (also heavily modified) , although now they’ve just released a new line of Electromatics equipped with soap bar P90s that sound MUCH more like my ideal P90 tone, I kinda wish I’d held off on the 2255.
@@riphopfer58166:05 ❤❤❤❤
It's definitely kind of true. I probably worked through adding the more standard Tele, 335, Strat, Les Paul, Jazzmaster, SG, Mustang, Casino. And then even a more unusual ones like the Baum Wingman, which is fantastic. Before finally getting to Gretsch, and got one of those Electromatic Pristine Jet's in White Gold. Love it. The surge in Beatles interest again, probably gave the Epiphone Casino & Gretsch Jet more attention again. I always loved the guitar tones of AC/DC and The Cult, and love what Julien Lage does with this style of pickup too. Hermanos Gutiérrez are giving Gretsch a bit more visibility too, with one of the brothers playing an awesome tangerine Gretsch Chet Atkins. Probably work my way toward a Firebird next year, even if just the cheaper Epiphone Vintage Burst without the banjo tuners. Before the discontinue it. A Jaguar would be nice too, though probably get a Squier and spend some time and money on it.
Toms pickups are so damn good! Every time I pick up my TV Jones Spectrasonic standard, I fall in love with it all over again!
In the mid-70's, I picked up a '64 Gretsch Country Gentleman for $275. Lovely guitar, with a sweeter, smaller sound than my other guitars. Something of a one-trick pony, and I moved it along after a year. The Electromatic strikes me the same way- while I can see enjoying the stock one in some circumstances, hearing the Casino with Lollars gave me a new appreciation for it. Plus, the price difference means that after upgrades, it's still cheaper than a stock Gretsch. The Bigsby and the art deco appearance are a factor if you like them, but I personally wouldn't miss either.
For stringing the Bigsby, pre bend the ball ends around some pliers creating a u-shape. Use a capo too if you want.
Looks incredible! I thought I liked the look of the guitar to begin with, but it looks AMAZING now!
Just found your channel, as I’ve been researching this guitar and thinking about getting one.
I have the exact same Gretsch. Saw it hanging on the wall of my local music shop and walked away with it. The first arrived sounding good, but after reading a few forum posts, I realized the pickups came set far too low. Raised them up with a few turns of the screwdriver. Incredible difference! The pickups just came to life.
I can understand going the single coil route but I say do some adjustments and give the Gretsch pickups a chance. They're really very nice.
The 'P90's' that came with my Chinese Epiphone Casino are pretty nice. I can't see spending the couple of hundred on a set of Lollars would be justified by my ear.
Very happy 5422 owner here. Stunning guitars
Yeah, me too! It's got something to it for sure. I've even owned a higher end Duo Jet and though it definitely played better, the 5422 had the tone I was looking for.
@@homeautismtreatment Yes! Tone to die for. I was really surprised to see Mick change out the blacktop filtertrons. Yes, they are low output, but as far as I'm concerned they make the 5422. I love them more than any other pickups. And isn't that what gain pedals are for??? I have to boost the shit out of mine to compete with my Tele or V but it's sooooo worth it. It's also the one I do 90% of my recording with, which tells it's own story. Probably not the ideal gigging guitar, but if tone is what you're after...
The best part was when you shook the guitar to get the washers out and the bridge fell off. Great planning :)
Smells like schadenfreude to me
A new guitar (or pickup) can always stir some creative juice!
Let me just say, you 're our small black dog!
Ah man. Thank you so much for that. Being of some use is what keeps us going. And I say that without any hint of condescension or self deprecation. Thank you.
The Gretsch was much improved, sounds great, has perfect focus and clarity, They both are excellent.
A new room! The black pickups really look cool on that Casino.
don't know why RUclips put all the lines though my message but it was all intended--thanks again
Never get tired of hearing that casino. Someday I will get those pups in mine too!
Lovely Growl to it!!!!
"To just hear guitars go to 3:58" - Mick clearly under the wrong impression we nerds come here for music when it's the endless rants and digressions that we really love ;)
Hahaha! And THAT’S why I love you Steven.
Turns out that the great unwashed disagree. They always have and that’s why most of em hate this. Hahahaha
A world of improvement to the Gretsh to my ears Mick. Fantastic playing as always ✌️
Thank you Johnny!
This is great, fantastic how just a pickup and pot change can transform a guitar. Thanks for posting this Mick.
Thank you!
Mick, I love your joy when you lose yourself in playing! Thank you for doing the technical work for us, but I also wish for you more such time in the near future.
Thank you kindly Angus!
Wow, those new pickups are worlds apart from the old ones. And I thought the Gretsch sounded great in the beginning. Awesome new PU's.
I have one of each of these guitars but I’ve always shied away from changing pickups. Really appreciate Mick showing how it’s not as bad as I thought. I use a Bigsby Spoiler for my Gretsch that makes string changes easy-peasy.
Plus one of the Vibramate Spoiler!
Not an autofocus malfunction, an artistic choice to focus on the amps while you play.
Oh I LIKE that!
Good morning! 6" heavy wet spring snow in South Dakota today. Dropping in for a bit before I go plow. Your show is slappin'!
Thanks Mike! Snow, woah!
Mick I know you spend a long time doing these but be assured that the result is amazing. I am not referring to the sound of the new pickups (they sound great, look even better, I still prefer the casino), I am talking about the quality of the content and production. I am in awe of your ability to convey the ‘story’ as well as produce something to this level. Calling these vlogs is doing these films an injustice. Now excuse me - I am off to Reverb to find a casino to mod!
Thank you so much Kristoffer, that’s a very kind thing to say! Cheers man, good luck on Reverb!
@@ThatPedalShow thanks - I fear your success with the Casino has driven up prices a bit ;)
Can someone explain to me why every time Mick modifies one of his guitars I go from "never minded that guitar model" to "F*ck me I need one of those." D': *cries in poor*
Yes! Hahahah!!!
@@ThatPedalShow I'll hold you accountable for it hahaha
LOL!! As a lefty, I cry even harder!!
Maybe it's the upgrade pickups. Lollartrons and de Armonds are more expensive than a cheap guitar.
"Of course, they ping off the second you do it." -- Capo. Mount, wrap, pull tight, secure with a capo while dealing with the tuning machines. Massive difference on the Gretsch with the new pups. That said, I do say the Epi really stuns me with how fantastic it sounds. Both guitars really impart beautifully different character. Well done on both, Mick.
I personally LOVE these videos. The struggle of rewires are real!
After your Casino video I got some Lindy Fralins and installed them. With help from my wife when I came to put all the pots back in.
Niiiiice!
Excellent birthday treat here! Took the day off work and just poured some fine coffee with a birthday belt of Jamison's for good measure. Oh, and the wife's present (Camoflange) just came in yesterday. Bring on the tone!!!!
Hey Mick, great vid. Pre - bend a loop on the bridge end of your strings before you sit them on the post of the Bigsby. That will stop the “pinging “ off when you’re not ready.
Good tip!
I've got the Gretsch, and I love it. Really sweet tone, perfect for slide playing. I plugged it into my Marshall VS15R, selected the neck pickup, and was rewarded with Robbie Krieger's (from the Doors) slide tone. Of course I play it conventionally as well.
Talk about a total transformation on the Gretsch... so much more life ... more sweetness and musical tones. Got me thinking about trying those pickups in my centre block White Falcon! Great to hear both guitars in the track at the end... nice one Mick!
Thanks Steve. Yep, they are night and day different to me! Cheers!
In my humble opinion. Some of the most professionl content broadcast today for the guitar lovers of the world. Thank you
yea those filter-trons might not have the gain/output but the clarity is ALL there. and for ME that is THE sound.
I have been digging the new Gretsch Electromatics lately. I have a Player Series Broadkaster, but I have a hollowbody, semi-hollowbody, and chambered solidbody each of the Electromatics, and I love them. A few months ago I was Jonesing for a ES-335, but I found the Player Series Broadcaster, and I am very happy with my choice. The Shaw Fulltron Pickups are great.
Thanks ! If you put the close caption on the music bits from 4:00 to 7:00 you get [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] which shows how much your playing is appreciated !
I got a 5420tg in a trade (also a great G&L Fullerton Legacy in same trade! Yes!). I was mostly enamored with the beauty of the white and gold, along with the overall vibe of the guitar. I believe mine is a 2019 MIK w/ rw board and thumb fret markers). Anyway, it's such a different beast than any other guitar I own that I have to reset my amps and pedals to get it where I want it. OTOH, and somewhat in parallel to your comparison to the Casino, I sold an older (2012 IIRC) Epi 339 because I didn't care for the neck. I replaced it with the similarly sized D'Angelico Mini DC with the Sweetwater upgrades (locking tuners, flame burst top/sides/back, and Seymours (Jazz/JB). They're the same prices as each other. Watching this great vid really makes me ponder what to do, if anything, to my 5420. I'm thinking that to make the change, I would probably want a more drastic change in character than the stock blacktops to TV Jones swap (and pots, etc.). I'm curious - did Gretsch offer any other pickup options - like HBs or p90s that would fit?
P.S. - Thanks so much for all your and yours and Mick's great shows over the years! Love 'em!
Oh, and a plug for the under-appreciated D'Angelicos. Fabulous guitars coming out of Indonesia!
No comparison Mick, good sir, Gretsch every time! But, then again I’m something of a Gretsch head. I hope it changes your playing life now it’s sounding like a full-fat model. Sounding great Mick!
I almost think Electromatics should be a separate brand, they feel nothing like any of the four high end models I’ve owned, from Falcons to Jets. However, this video proves beautifully that TV Jones pups can be transformative things. I had them in a Gretsch country club years ago. Beautiful things. Great video sir!
@@bleeknoir I would enjoy playing a hot-rod Korean made hollow body. I had a G5410 for a few weeks, but something was missing. TV Jones pickups...that’s what I need in a Gretsch! 🎸 🔥
Love the sound and versatility of the P90's in the Casino. Has a bit of a snarl that's very useful.
What an awesome video. I love all the effort and the fact that your understanding of the subtleties of guitar tone can help so much in pickup comparisons. I have a casino and thinking of putting the Lollar 50s in it and also considering getting a Gretsch but a semi hollow like the G5622T and been drooling over the dynasonic pickups so this video felt like it was made specially for me! 🙏
In any case, no matter what pickup or which guitar you are wiring, make sure you connect a ground jumper to the "Bigsby" ! Remove one of the Bigsby mounting screws, pull a small connected ground wire through the screw hole, replace the screw and cut off the excess ground wire. If you have ever had a "hum' from a hollow body guitar with a Bigsby, (place your hand on the strings and the hum stops), this is what the problem is ! And grounding the Bigsby is the cure !
I really like fenders for there versatility, but that casino is really something 👍
Incredible ending with those two guitars !!! It sounded like Dracula had formed a rock band !! Well done Mick
Yes! Thank you!
That jam at end! Awesome. Playing and video editing are top notch.
Thanks Adam!
I have a Casino Coupe and a 5422, and you've convinced me. Convinced me to live with and enjoy the stock pickups.
Cool!
Great techniques for wiring semi acoustics! Gonna remember these, thank you!
Schoolboy error #73, just vacuumed up all the nuts and screws...no worries, just dump out the vacuum bag and sift through this heeeeerree and there we are back and running. Haha love your vids my man!!
Hahaha!!!
Mick, I am agretch guy . Really enjoyed what you’ve accomplished
Thank you Robert!
Terrific video, sir. Hadn’t played my 2007 Korean Casino with Bigsby for a while until I saw this. Fallen in love with it all over again. Thank you for that!
Yay! Nice one John!
I have a green Gretsch 5620T made 2013 in the same SPG Factory like your white Gretsch.
At first i just wanted to have a look at the cheaper Gretsch Streamliner when they came out but my local music store only had some Electromatic, i took a look and i instantly fell in love with this 5620T with Cat's Eye soundholes so i decided it's worth to spend double the price of a Streamliner on that guitar and it's my favorite guitar now, still enjoy picking it up after several years of owning it.
Yes the pickups could have a little more power, i've set the bridge pickup quite close to the strings but all parts are still stock so this is very interesting for me. You got some great sounds with the new pickups!
Cool. Cheers Zwid! They are such cool things!
Ive just started playing in the last 18 months, im 45. Ive wanted to all my life and im so glad i have finally done it. Totally geeking out now and can't believe im enjoying watching hour long vids on stuff i know nothing about! I have the chance of picking up a casino, its a relatively newer model. Interested to know how old your one is. This video has pretty much made the decision for me regardless. Thanks for the effort on this one - loved it.
Hello Jimmy, welcome to the fam! All details in the description but I think it's a 2016 model. Cheers!
I got the casino!!! Very happy 🎸🎸🎸
Loving that riff Mick , gonna steal that one. Great show as always
Cool! No doubt I stole it from somewhere!
Thank you so much, Mick. I have been struggling through making a new harness for my Epiphone ‘61 LP Custom 3 pickup. Learned about decoupling volume pots, grounding, as well as what happens when you are finished and push the back off a pot bc that volume knob is too tight on the shaft. Education is hard. After this video, I will accept more education today.
Keep going! You have to get everything wrong once I find. It’s so tedious. Hahahaah!
Fixed and rockin!
I’m a big fan of those stock Gretsch Blacktop Filtertron pickups - they’re in my gigging guitar, and I have no plans on replacing them.
Cool! I liked their tonality very much... but whether it was something peculiar about this guitar, they were just lost next to my other guitars. Cheers!
I have a G6659 with Tim Shaw FullTron pickups. It’s been challenging finding information on them. If they’re even used in other guitars. They sound great, however.
@@ThatPedalShow Absolutely - I was stunned by the difference in output between those Lollars and the Blacktops. The Casino sounded fantastic in that context!
Great video as always!
Those new pickups made that Gretsch sound so much better, still not quite as hot as the Epiphone though to my ears but the different sets of pups should be different otherwise what's the point LOL, that track as the end was terrific, great playing as usual Mick :)
Thank you John!
I would choose the Gretsch if I had to. I have a Casino with which I fight. I have a Gretsch that delights me every time I pick it up. The track was strikingly enjoyable. Thanks Mick.
Thank you Rick!
When you first played the Gretsch stock I was like' Yeah, low output but still sound good". The you swapped out the pickups and now I'm like" Those stock pickups were just average at best". You totally brought that to life with a much more classic Gretsch tone. Love the overall balance it now has. Stock its a very usable sound but after rewinding and listening a few times I realized they had zero presence at all. I suspect in a full band mix they would get lost trying to keep up ya know. Totally worth the upgrade and headache of rewiring a semi-hollow. Also, those lollars sound unreal good in that casino!! Amazing video as alway Mick!!
Thank you Venancio! You’re right about the band mix thing. Even sat at TPS the Gretsch used to get lost. Not any more! Cheers man!
Hey Mick- Really enjoyed this video, thank you. I love how slow and deliberate you are in working on your guitars (in this video relative to the pickup change). You truly seem to enjoy the work. It’s not a race. And it would serve me well to do the same... relish the process, take my time, learn - and just embrace the opportunity to understand how to make these instruments better and grasp how all of these components fit together (or sometimes don’t). I am beginning to truly enjoy working on my guitars - but I used to dread it. I just wanted to play. But there is something very rewarding about putting in the time to improve an instrument. This really comes across and I just wanted to mention it... cheers!
Nice. Thanks Kevin! I also have to go slow because I have two cameras and an audio machine running and I have to make sure I get it all! It’s quite stressful so going slow is the only way!
@@ThatPedalShow love the sound of the Dynasonics BTW... very sweet sounding. I’ve never owned a guitar with them but I’m very tempted. I have a Duo Jet with FilterTrons and love those too. But now I’m considering something along the lines of what you have done here. Again, great stuff!!
Those Lollar P-90s sound fantastic! Now I have to change the pups in my Riviera...
I love these guitar breakdown/swap pick ups videos. Very well done!
Thanks Callum. It’s not exactly coal mining but blimmin hell they’re a ballache!
Not aware if Mick already know this but a stress saving tip for stringing a Bigsby is to bend a kink about a half inch up from the ball end of the guitar string with a pair of pliers before putting them on the posts. It doesn't solve all the woes of stringing Bigsby's but it will make the strings less likely to ping off. This is coming from a Gretsch owner of 10 years who has yet to manage to break string playing it, and believe me I've tried.
Thank you! I shall try it. :0)
I’m sitting down all night and learning That riff at the beginning so cool lol
Yay!
I have Lollars in a J. Mascis Jazzmaster...they are absolutely amazing, especially at volume and in a mix. They’re the real star here.
I’ve got a set of their ‘52 Tele pickups in a partscaster and they’re awesome,
To be honest, minus the pickups they are essentially the same guitar. Maple hollow bodies with a mahogany rosewood neck. The Gretch has a little more body to it. And that is where ends. The pickups are the main difference. Just got a casino and the first mods I made were the hardest ones. Levelling and dressing the frets,, intonation, making a bone nut and lowering the bridge. Wow, what a difference that makes. Kind of smoothed out all the out of the box rumbling it had going on and the action is fast and buttery smooth. Basically feels like a high end guitar now. Still haven't put Lollar P-90s, CTS pots and orange drop capacitors on it, yet. Sounds pretty good already. But yes that is where I would start on any guitar. Get the frets, intonation, set up and nut in good working then go from there.
Man that sounds blooming epic!!!! Sounds like a true Gretch now!!!!
I prefer the Gretsch tone
I dig them both. Man the tune was fantastic. I really enjoyed that. Love it.
Thank you!
Gretsch has been making strides over the last few years with upgrading their proprietary pickups. The new blacktops and broadtrons are a big upgrade from the last generation.
Nine minutes in and I concluded that those are both superb sounding guitars!
Thank you!
Yes indeed they are, especially after the mods made to the Gretsch. I am currently in the market for a 5422T and I happen to have a set of TVJ Classics which will make a nice upgrade.
Man that Casino sounds absolutely wonderful! Also, aesthetically those new pickups just add class to it! What a great sounding guitar! Awesome video guys!
Thank you!
Great stuff, really enjoyed the whole video. Made me feel the need for a semi hollow to make my own, probably pick up a 335 type from Harley Benton or the firefly. Theses are my budget if I’m looking at upgrading parts......509 dollars 😬🥴🥴ouch.
Love it , thanks Mick.
Fantastic video, very inspirational - have watched it several times. I have a Casino with Lollars lying on a sofa, it ´just´ needs assembling, after having watched your video on the Casino upgrade,
and a Tele almost assembled with a Mojo, UK HB sized D´Armond front PU. I love the smiles on your face when you reach the desired outcome.
That end track was SOOOOOOOOO cool man!!! Loved it! You should more of those!
Thanks Daniel!
I vote Gretsch. The Casino doesn't really do it for me for some reason.
P90s miss the jangle
Mick the track at the end was inspired!!! Please release that as part of the upcoming EP!! Please!! Please!! Please!! 😁
Ha! Thanks Tom! It was a joke really... funny how the fun stuff sometimes turns out good!
@@ThatPedalShow if you have fun doing it, we have fun watching and listening to it! Cheers!
Awesome to see you connecting with your casino! I love my 330 to bits, cheers!
I think I’m going to get a 330. Just love this thing. But I need nitro. NEED I say. :0)
@@ThatPedalShow Sorry to mention but your casino does have that typical poly sound to it...
TV still builds those PU’s in his garage. He’s a fascinating guy to hang out with. He’s a fireman/EMT with one helluva brilliant mind, TV has.
Bought my dad a Korean Gretsch 5420t a few years back and its fantastic for the money. Hate the floating bridge though and thinking about getting a tech to pin it.
Excellent, love a hollowbody fight
Nice video, Mick! I definitely think the pickups changed the Gretsch for the better! Its always interesting (and educational) to watch how these upgrades are done too!
Well done, my brother.
I've always thought that the Gretsch pick ups sound too similar to single coils. I play telecasters so I'd go more for the Epiphone for a different character. I would probably choose humbuckers over P90s though.
Loved the track at the end. Great Bond vibes. Please do more!
Thanks Dan!
I've just refitted my Casino with lovely looking locking tuners - backwards 🤣 Oops! They still work though, sort of.. I swear towards the end of this vid my Casino was looking at me as if to say, "See, see what I can do!" xD
4:40 Peter Buck feedback tones to my ears, I’ll take it!
Sweeeeet!
Bung some tremolo on it. Instant 'Crush With Eyeliner' . . .