I think the reason they get so angry at dissent is that they are essentially in a cult and like any cult they reinforce their beliefs by retreating into an echo chamber of lies, the truth can bring that house of cards down easily if it isn't silenced. Compare that to robust opinions, if you say the world is round, every other person in the room can tell you it's flat and it makes no difference because your position is provable and robust, it doesn't require unanimous support to have power or validity so it's holders don't feel threatened by those who disagree.
Eddie Izzard gave himself away when on Joe Rogan (I think). He said for the acting auditions he went into ‘boy’ mode and for his political pursuits ‘girl’ mode. That isn’t trans, it’s cosplay.
I was such a fan of Eddie Izzard in the past but even he used to always joke about being a bloke in a dress n now he wants to be she and Suzie… By his own admission he was a cross dresser and joked about being an executive transvestite and male lesbian and made a ton of cash as a man playing film roles as a man. He was funny and he was clever and he seemed kind but … arrogance is the right word…
@@hedgehog1965uk oh yes …that too. But I recall him saying it in French ‘travestie executif’ and you’re right I think the 90s was the last time he was amusing …
Merry Christmas to you all and thank you SO MUCH for all that you have all risked, sacrificed, and endured - and for all the little wins, big achievements, awareness and change that you have made happen.
Merry Christmas to you all! Thank you for your hard & courageous work & also for some great laughs… A good point about performing virtue. In the Judith Butler universe of nothing being real except performance, performing virtue IS virtue…
FYI - The malpractice insurance denials are ONLY happening in the Red States that have enacted Gender Affirming Care bans not because they're concerned about Civil Cases from Detranstioners, but because they're concerned about Criminal Cases from the government. Providers in Blue States where Gender Affirming Care is still legal for minors are having no such issue with obtaning malpratice insurance, with some states like California even requiring that malpractice insurers cover providers that offer Gender Affirming Care.
Me too, and a bit more... I’m not British born so the whole Father Ted generational phenomena has passed me by. I heard of Graham from Trigger and Heretics and since beginning of this week I watched the whole IT Crowd, Father Ted and Black Books series while reading Tough Crowd during ad breaks 😂😂 Merry Christmas all 🎉
Great episode ,guys, and thanks for your hard work during the year. Definitely some good advance son Terf Island this year but worried about a future Labour Government. Need more court cases!! Happy Xmas, Terven! Onwards 😀 Dusty
Hi Graham, don't have time to watch the whole show will definitely catch up ASAP. Just wanted to wish you a Very Merry Christmas & an amazing New Year. I'm really positive for your continuing future success in 2024. Its gonna be an amazing year for you. All the best ❤
I'm so glad that I grew up in the 1960s and 1970s. I'd hate to be young now. The world we live in now is something none of us could ever have predicted. Merry Christmas.
Social contagion was highlighted in the "Aunt Irma" episode of the IT Crowd where Moss, Roy and numerous IT men were convinced they suffered from PMT. BTW, thanks, Graham for that wonderful comedy show.
Graham Linehan is correct about being YT shadow banned. In the last few weeks alone I've watched interviews with him on Triggernometry, Andrew Gold Heretics, Peter Boghossian and a Spiked documentary. Yet I didn't get this in my selections until 5 days after streaming, when it only has 977 likes as of this writing. So a belated merry Christmas and Happy New Year from a Politically Homeless Gen-X woman in the California Bay Area. (If you stay away from cities and downtowns in California, there are plenty of small towns / small cities / rural areas where we aren't crazy, the streets are clean, and we have police.)
I remember trying to explain my position about a year ago. I was doing ok then suddenly I got all anxious and blurred out HAVE YOU HEARD OF AGP??? Yeah... That didn't go well 🤣🤣🤣
Maybe beggars should start identifying as billionaires. And be furious when faux left wingers don't treat them as if they were. I'e with grovelling respect and working for them .
Just wanna say I really appreciate the views of Helen and Arty , great conversations. Love this show so informative and fun as well I giggle along with you lovely people ❤😊🥰👏👏👏
I'm still depressed from watching a video yesterday of Robin Ince on stage, talking about that trans person who stripped naked on live TV (I'm pretty sure I would get arrested for that), and Robin referred to "her penis". I was hoping for a second that he was joking, but then realised that he was being serious 😒
That was a program on Channel 4 last year, he was hitting the jeys on the keyboard with it and nobody said or did anything about it coz he's a woman! 🙄
Merry Christmas to you three! Thank you Graham, to save me a Christmas gift problem for my friends & family who’ll be getting “Tough Crowd” from Santa this year!
Q. Why is it that, in this day and age, we are far more susceptible to all sorts of types of grooming? Is it because it's so easy to lie on social media with absolutely no accountability?
Agreed @@JaneA544 . Graham refers to Mob Mentality, others posh it up to say "Group Think" but, whatever it is, it is scary the way a mass of people decide to support a narrative with absolutely no evidence. That must come down to a basic human instinct to belong, surely? As soon as you don't belong, you become fair game - as Graham and others have found out. I just hope he's a strong enough wolf, in a pack of strong wolves, to survive this ordeal. School never prepares you for this kind of warfare.
Graham, please have Josh Slocum on your show, he focuses on the narcissism inherent in the toxic elements of society. His channel is called Disaffected
Never forget that WPATH 8 has a whole CHAPTER on EUNUCHS. And no age limit at all for any type of 'gender affirming care'. Just ask people how far they are willing to go along with this....are they happy to 'include' eunuch children next?
The trolly problem is a perfect analogy. I'm autistic and I would have loved to get diagnosed as a child so I didn't have to live with the problems I suffered through my entire life. I don't however think that we should diagnose all children with autism so that teh autistic kids can get help. Diagnosing depression as autism is damaging, diagnosing a healthy child with autism is damaging and I do not wish to damage children so that children like me get the help they need. That's not even a surgical intervention and it's a known condition with science behind it. I still don't want yo damage children so kids that are like I was cancelled get help. It's a sick and selfish thing to do
The comparison with scientology nails it..most people dont really know what the whole trans thing is but if you do some research you realise how bonkers it is.
Your comment about the right wing's general lack of bothering about this is spot on Graham. So many right wingers seem obsessed by wokeness in general, when, frankly, an Agathie Christie detective being played by a Nigerian man and thus the whole thing losing realism is frustrating, and stupid, but nothing like as important as the gender weirdness. Additionally I find Evangelical Christians to be especially bizarre about this, saying "oh, there's a lot of unkindness". Eh?? Surely it's more unkind to go against our religious beliefs about the nature of men and women, and allow the pushing of an ideology that encourages boys and girls to have their bits cut off? I've probably said this before on this page but it's astounding to me that it's taking gay Atheists to say what should be an easy thing for Christian churches to say! Thankfully my minister is considerably more militant out there against this than most.
I can't think of anyone on the left that defended what happened on October 7th(there might be exceptions) but they rightly have pointed out that the now 20,000 Palestinians have been killed since then is not a defensible position either.
I think the reason they get so angry at dissent is that they are essentially in a cult and like any cult they reinforce their beliefs by retreating into an echo chamber of lies, the truth can bring that house of cards down easily if it isn't silenced. Compare that to robust opinions, if you say the world is round, every other person in the room can tell you it's flat and it makes no difference because your position is provable and robust, it doesn't require unanimous support to have power or validity so it's holders don't feel threatened by those who disagree.
Thank you, Helen, Arty and Glinner, you made this year more tolerable. Wishing you safe and peaceful holidays.
2024 is going to be a year many will peak. More and more are waking up every day. Keep fighting the good fight Graham.
You don't indulge delusion. You treat it.
Merry Christmas!
Eddie Izzard gave himself away when on Joe Rogan (I think). He said for the acting auditions he went into ‘boy’ mode and for his political pursuits ‘girl’ mode. That isn’t trans, it’s cosplay.
I can't watch him.. creepy
Since 2020, he says he's a full-time woman!
Hes a full time crossdresser@@davidz3879
@davidz3879 but for work it's "boy mode" which is really creepy for an older male
@@JaneA544 Maybe he self-identifies as a teen!
Helen: 'I'm assumimg he's going to sue like fuck'. Perfect.
Thank you Glinner for everything you've done. That's all I want to say.
Merry Christmas you lot. So grateful for what you do.
Happy new year to all of you.❤
Merry Christmas! Another year over, and another nail in the coffin on trans ideology. Bring on 2024 🎉
Graham, you've got all my respect for speaking out.
Those women and girls who got ripped off should have the titles reinstated and rematches arranged against the knocked out opponents.
You three guys are doing an amazing job! More of the Mess in 2024 as the fight against insanity and lies isn’t over yet!
I was such a fan of Eddie Izzard in the past but even he used to always joke about being a bloke in a dress n now he wants to be she and Suzie… By his own admission he was a cross dresser and joked about being an executive transvestite and male lesbian and made a ton of cash as a man playing film roles as a man. He was funny and he was clever and he seemed kind but … arrogance is the right word…
I thought it was "action transvestite", but it was so long ago (1990s) that he was even funny.
@@hedgehog1965uk oh yes …that too. But I recall him saying it in French ‘travestie executif’ and you’re right I think the 90s was the last time he was amusing …
I think he's just doing it because he thinks it'll revitalise his fading fame and fortune.
Merry Christmas to you all and thank you SO MUCH for all that you have all risked, sacrificed, and endured - and for all the little wins, big achievements, awareness and change that you have made happen.
🎄Merry Christmas, guys. Have a wonderful holiday🎄
Happy Christmas everyone ! 2024 will be our year !!
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Merry Christmas to you all! Thank you for your hard & courageous work & also for some great laughs…
A good point about performing virtue. In the Judith Butler universe of nothing being real except performance, performing virtue IS virtue…
Bought your book for myself for Christmas Graham.🎄
Looking forward to reading it!
You’ve accomplished a lot in awareness of the problems with gender ideology.
FYI - The malpractice insurance denials are ONLY happening in the Red States that have enacted Gender Affirming Care bans not because they're concerned about Civil Cases from Detranstioners, but because they're concerned about Criminal Cases from the government. Providers in Blue States where Gender Affirming Care is still legal for minors are having no such issue with obtaning malpratice insurance, with some states like California even requiring that malpractice insurers cover providers that offer Gender Affirming Care.
wow, that is important information. Thanks.
Hopefully common sense will prevail in the end! Merry Christmas, Graham, I just bought your book 😊x
Me too, and a bit more... I’m not British born so the whole Father Ted generational phenomena has passed me by. I heard of Graham from Trigger and Heretics and since beginning of this week I watched the whole IT Crowd, Father Ted and Black Books series while reading Tough Crowd during ad breaks 😂😂 Merry Christmas all 🎉
Yes, accepting that women don't have male genitals!
Also reading Tough Crowd over Christmas break ❤
Merry Christmas guys! You have kept me sane these past few years. Cheers to our successes and may they continue!
Bought Tough Crowd for my dear brother for Christmas. He’s gonna love it!
Wishing you all merry Christmas thanks for standing up for women and doing it in such an entertaining way. ❤️ to all if you
Great episode ,guys, and thanks for your hard work during the year.
Definitely some good advance son Terf Island this year but worried about a future Labour Government. Need more court cases!!
Happy Xmas, Terven!
Onwards 😀
Dusty
Thank you all for your hard work. 🇬🇧
I’ve just listened to Arty’s Substack. Fantastic. So well informed, measured and heartbreaking. Thank you. X
Thank you, trio of angels, Merry Christmas. Well done, you lot.
Hi Graham, don't have time to watch the whole show will definitely catch up ASAP. Just wanted to wish you a Very Merry Christmas & an amazing New Year. I'm really positive for your continuing future success in 2024. Its gonna be an amazing year for you. All the best ❤
Merry Terfmas everyone!
Helen, you're bloody great and I love you.
Happy Christmas all of you!!! Amazing work. Thanks all.
Happy Christmas to the three of you - love what you do!
I'm so glad that I grew up in the 1960s and 1970s. I'd hate to be young now. The world we live in now is something none of us could ever have predicted. Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas to you all!
Hi Graham, will not catch the whole thing tonight but will finish up after Christmas. You’re awesome! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year 🎉
That movie is called Saltburn for anyone who is interested.
Thanks. Was searching for “Salzburg” with no success.
Thank you! I was also searching for Salzburg 😂
Merry Christmas to the Mess.
Thanks to you all for your work, and putting on the show.
Merry Christmas Graham, Helen & Arty! I’ll be ordering your book very soon, Graham :)
Merry Christmas Graham!
Merry Christmas to you all. 🎄🥂
Merry terfmas!
Have the wonderful Christmas you all so richly deserve 🎉
This was great, Happy Xmas you three!
Social contagion was highlighted in the "Aunt Irma" episode of the IT Crowd where Moss, Roy and numerous IT men were convinced they suffered from PMT. BTW, thanks, Graham for that wonderful comedy show.
It's been a great year for sense
God bless you all.
Love you all. Merry Xmas!
Merry Christmas you wonderful people x
Ive been fighting this crap for years, always knew you guy were right.
Graham Linehan is correct about being YT shadow banned. In the last few weeks alone I've watched interviews with him on Triggernometry, Andrew Gold Heretics, Peter Boghossian and a Spiked documentary. Yet I didn't get this in my selections until 5 days after streaming, when it only has 977 likes as of this writing. So a belated merry Christmas and Happy New Year from a Politically Homeless Gen-X woman in the California Bay Area.
(If you stay away from cities and downtowns in California, there are plenty of small towns / small cities / rural areas where we aren't crazy, the streets are clean, and we have police.)
Merry Christmas! Love you guys. Keep up the amazing work! ❤
Arty Mortys piece/essay is excellent.Highly recommended.
I bought Graham's new book for my brother for Christmas
Yes, but the problem is young people don't know how a debate works, education needs to do its work and not proselytise.
52:43 The Fuhrers of Harvard, MIT, and Yale.
Fair balls to you, Graham!
I remember trying to explain my position about a year ago. I was doing ok then suddenly I got all anxious and blurred out HAVE YOU HEARD OF AGP??? Yeah... That didn't go well 🤣🤣🤣
Merry Christmas! And you are all correct Barry Keoghan is a great actor, he got on my radar for the great movie Killing of a sacred deer.
I’m glad you have started talking about material reality.The creation of poverty.So much more significant than someone’s erotic fantasy.
Maybe beggars should start identifying as billionaires. And be furious when faux left wingers don't treat them as if they were. I'e with grovelling respect and working for them .
Civilisation, here we come! Onwards and upwards in '24. Graham, Helen and Arty - gems, one and all.
Merry Christmas all from Oregon❤
3 heroes ❤️
lovely jubbly!
merry christmas ya loons n quines... and all the best for 2024
Merry Christmas to the Three Musketeers 😊
Merry Christmas guys! Thanks for all the good work.
Happy Christmas everybody🎉
You three are the best ! Happy Christmas xxx
merry christmas, and thanks for another wonderful video.
Nice bunch of people ❤
Congratulations
Merry Christmas and all the very best for 2024. Thanks for your hard courageous work.
Just wanna say I really appreciate the views of Helen and Arty , great conversations. Love this show so informative and fun as well I giggle along with you lovely people ❤😊🥰👏👏👏
Merry Christmas & a happy & healthy & prosperous turn of the year.
We are all shadow banned Glinner!
More power to Kemi. Bit of a crush based on her rationality.
Yes telling the truth wins every time.
Oh and Merry Christmas all. 🎄🎅☃
Merry Christmas!.
I'm still depressed from watching a video yesterday of Robin Ince on stage, talking about that trans person who stripped naked on live TV (I'm pretty sure I would get arrested for that), and Robin referred to "her penis". I was hoping for a second that he was joking, but then realised that he was being serious 😒
Exhibitionism at its most ridiculous and insanely lauded by eejits
That was a program on Channel 4 last year, he was hitting the jeys on the keyboard with it and nobody said or did anything about it coz he's a woman! 🙄
one word - "cult"@@scotswumin5502
Merry Christmas to you three! Thank you Graham, to save me a Christmas gift problem for my friends & family who’ll be getting “Tough Crowd” from Santa this year!
You'd do better getting them 'Bouncing Back' by Alan Partridge.
Merry Christmas.
if Im ever having a dog again, Im getting a Jack Russel. The trouble is saying goodbye to them. But that dog is adorable
All the best Arkidz !
Happy 🎄 Christmas
Happy Christmas 🎄 and hoping for a peaked 2024
Q. Why is it that, in this day and age, we are far more susceptible to all sorts of types of grooming? Is it because it's so easy to lie on social media with absolutely no accountability?
Yes partly, but education has been a huge part of this too
Agreed @@JaneA544 . Graham refers to Mob Mentality, others posh it up to say "Group Think" but, whatever it is, it is scary the way a mass of people decide to support a narrative with absolutely no evidence. That must come down to a basic human instinct to belong, surely? As soon as you don't belong, you become fair game - as Graham and others have found out. I just hope he's a strong enough wolf, in a pack of strong wolves, to survive this ordeal. School never prepares you for this kind of warfare.
And the decline of Christianity. Whatever you think of religion, it gave people a moral code to live by, now anything goes in the West.
Merry Xmas
Great podcast guys. My appeals against my lifelong ban from Twitter / X have all been rejected, and I hate feeling unable to help. Keep doing it.
God save the king Merry Christmas
subbbed ~ a newbie here -🎄 cheers and merry!
Graham, please have Josh Slocum on your show, he focuses on the narcissism inherent in the toxic elements of society.
His channel is called Disaffected
19:59 Arty is so bang on - this is the problem in 2023/24
Never forget that WPATH 8 has a whole CHAPTER on EUNUCHS. And no age limit at all for any type of 'gender affirming care'. Just ask people how far they are willing to go along with this....are they happy to 'include' eunuch children next?
Line dancing is wayyyyy harder than it looks.
You misgendered the puppy! Have a wonderful Christmas and thanks for all you are all doing!
Slowly at first, then very very fast.
The trolly problem is a perfect analogy. I'm autistic and I would have loved to get diagnosed as a child so I didn't have to live with the problems I suffered through my entire life.
I don't however think that we should diagnose all children with autism so that teh autistic kids can get help. Diagnosing depression as autism is damaging, diagnosing a healthy child with autism is damaging and I do not wish to damage children so that children like me get the help they need. That's not even a surgical intervention and it's a known condition with science behind it. I still don't want yo damage children so kids that are like I was cancelled get help. It's a sick and selfish thing to do
The comparison with scientology nails it..most people dont really know what the whole trans thing is but if you do some research you realise how bonkers it is.
Yes definitely cult dynamics perpetuatuing and furthering the narcisists cause.
Your comment about the right wing's general lack of bothering about this is spot on Graham. So many right wingers seem obsessed by wokeness in general, when, frankly, an Agathie Christie detective being played by a Nigerian man and thus the whole thing losing realism is frustrating, and stupid, but nothing like as important as the gender weirdness.
Additionally I find Evangelical Christians to be especially bizarre about this, saying "oh, there's a lot of unkindness". Eh?? Surely it's more unkind to go against our religious beliefs about the nature of men and women, and allow the pushing of an ideology that encourages boys and girls to have their bits cut off? I've probably said this before on this page but it's astounding to me that it's taking gay Atheists to say what should be an easy thing for Christian churches to say! Thankfully my minister is considerably more militant out there against this than most.
Puppy wins the argument paws down….
I can't think of anyone on the left that defended what happened on October 7th(there might be exceptions) but they rightly have pointed out that the now 20,000 Palestinians have been killed since then is not a defensible position either.
Hamas could stop it if they surrendered.
@@helenmcg7607 Hamas didn't even exist until 1987. If Hamas didn't exist now there would still be an Israeli occupation.
@@helenmcg7607Hamas was created & funded by Ïsræl which is even reported in mainstream news like MSNBC.