Doing family tree research this week and found my greatgreatuncle Charles Boardman and his wife Catherine on the passenger list. Charles is listed as lost at sea but Catherines body was recovered. They had left Liverpool in 1910 on the same ship.
It's 1am and i'm on here thinking "just one more" just as a brand new video pops up. I have gone through almost the entire catalogue of videos from this channel in the last 3 days. Love your work. Thank you
@@waterlinestories There's a fist bump emoji? Why can't I find it?! Nah but seriously love the quality of your work. Idk too much about ya tho. How did u learn all of this?
Watched a number of videos on this event, but you still covered a few things that I wasn't aware of before. Interesting, exciting, and informative video, as always!
This is why you pass port to port. If one captain opts to pass starboard to starboard while the other captain opts to pass port to port, collision is all but inevitable.
the real problem was communication. obviously they didn't have VHF, but ive asked countless times to pass stbd/stbd . but again this is with permission just to rule out any lack of course change
Sailed that route recently on a cruise ship. We came within 200 feet of a small chemical tanker. It gets narrow. I could see forward. It looked like we were gonna hit. It was late dusk so you could see. We went port to port at the last second. No fog with the best radar. You can’t miss a cruise ship. I can see many collisions on that river in the old days.
What an amazing channel, just watched 2 videos, a container ship that ruptures its fire line and korean ferry. So much detail crammed into each video and it is better than any sinilar show on TV. The host is great and fun to watch! Thanks for such amazing content, keep up the good work and doing what your doing. Your instincts are perfect and dont ldt anyone convince you to change a single thing about your videos! I cant wait to watch all the other videos ok the channel, open ocean stuff is particularly scary and it takes balls to be a seamen. Mahalo form Hawaii!
Great timing for this video. I live in the region and it looks nice out on the water, but it is still violently cold. You won't survive minutes if you have an accident. Don't go out unless you own a good drysuit.
Whats funny with boats is they operate on a different set of rules. Like if Im driving on the wrong side of the road and I hit someone, we all know who's fault it is. Boats ... not so much. A boat can be on the wrong side, in fog, and they're still not sure who cause the accident. p.s.: Saw something similar with planes. The tower tells the pilot "you are too high and too fast, go around" and the pilots just responded "nah we got this, landing" and then proceeded to crash the plane.
The company that determines what is ethical at sea is prounounced "soulless"? (Yeah I know it's SOLAS but still) Lol they should've thought that one through
No matter how many times I hear about this I never get over the idiocy of chugging along with the hatches and watertight doors open. It's like having a seatbelt and not using it. Given his demonstrably lax attitude toward safety I wouldn't doubt it if the captain of the Empress of Ireland lied as much as he could to cover his ass. Not to mention that his first priority with his ship sinking was to get on board the other vessel to blame the other guy. Also... what use are lifeboats that can only be launched in clear weather and calm seas? The number of times you need to launch lifeboats under those specific conditions are pretty rare...
She was a lovely ship! Beautiful lines and pleasing to the eye. A wonderfully narrated video covering the event succinctly and precisely. Well done and thank you👏🏻👏🏻🫶🏻
Hey great video as usual. Local place name pronunciation check, Govan is pronounced like the word oven with a g at the start, so like guven. Our flat is right on the Clyde, it's an old tenement that would have housed ship builders back in the day. Govan is just across the river from us, my father in law worked at the yards there.
I read about this years ago. Many of the stewards responsible for closing water tight doors stayed at their posts even as the water went above their heads, giving their lives to try to buy more time for the passengers. There are stories of crew taking off their vests, giving them to passengers and many other acts of bravery, From what I recall, a greater ratio of crew died compared to passengers. The radio operator, realising his batteries were dying, held down his key until all power was gone.
No. The survival rate for the crew was higher than it was for the passengers. Of the approximate 1,000 passengers, only 217 survived while over half of the 420 crew survived.
Good video. But as a Scot I need to correct the way you mispronounced Govan, it’s pronounced Guvan/Guven. But words that start GOV are pronounced GUV & that isn’t a Scottish thing, that’s how it works for the English language as a whole. Like government for example; the “o” is pronounced as a “u”
🤭 fair though. I think the best thing to follow up with is "I never met a nice South African". We butcher your language and I'm sure a host of other things. 😂
@@waterlinestories Scots is different fae English. Govan is a Scots word that’s been anglicised. I’ve got mates who’re fae South Africa & honestly Americans butcher Scots & English worse than anyone else 😂
Chinese metal salvage have been going around stealing these protected gravesites for the metal salvage and some in my country have been robbed, with it also the skeletons of soldiers and passengers which were tossed like trash. Hopefully they haven't touched this site yet but we know so far they have robbed plenty sites with no regard to respect.
I'm pretty sure this site's location will be safe from illegal Chinese salvors (Canadian territorial water's), but I have seen some things about WW2 wrecks being illegally salvaged. Pretty disgusting in my opinion.
@@calci2679i read reports on this online as well, the reason is the steel before ww2 has no radioisotopes present in it which makes it just slightly more stealthy and hard to detect by certain scanners Thus prized for their steel & often unattended, these wreckages have been pillaged often by the Chinese scrappers
Ok, now someone NEEDS to do a video on the stories of the six divers who died exploring the wreck, because I’m tired of seeing the same ‘diving gone wrong’ vids! 😂
Doing family tree research this week and found my greatgreatuncle Charles Boardman and his wife Catherine on the passenger list. Charles is listed as lost at sea but Catherines body was recovered. They had left Liverpool in 1910 on the same ship.
RIP
I just love the way you tell/deliver these stories. So very polished.
Thanks👌🏻
Yes in that special South African way which is a great contribution to spoken English
It's 1am and i'm on here thinking "just one more" just as a brand new video pops up.
I have gone through almost the entire catalogue of videos from this channel in the last 3 days. Love your work. Thank you
I did the same thing when I found this channel lol
🤛🏻 thanks, that's awesome to hear
@garrettmillsap 🥳
You're like that dude from Hacksaw ridge except instead of wounded soldiers it's RUclips videos. "Just one more"
@@waterlinestories There's a fist bump emoji? Why can't I find it?! Nah but seriously love the quality of your work. Idk too much about ya tho. How did u learn all of this?
Watched a number of videos on this event, but you still covered a few things that I wasn't aware of before. Interesting, exciting, and informative video, as always!
Good to hear. Thanks for watching
it's refreshing that both captains really did try here, usually it's blatant bad decisions across the board
try what? its maritime LAW assistance is given in any SOS!
Well produced documentary.
Excellent narration - by a live human!
🤣 They do exist. Thanks for watching
My great grandmother lost one of her good friends on the Empress of Ireland.
This is why you pass port to port. If one captain opts to pass starboard to starboard while the other captain opts to pass port to port, collision is all but inevitable.
that local applies equally to always going starboard
the real problem was communication. obviously they didn't have VHF, but ive asked countless times to pass stbd/stbd . but again this is with permission just to rule out any lack of course change
@@ct1762 Yeah, the key to making a manoeuvre, like this, safe is communication.
Sailed that route recently on a cruise ship. We came within 200 feet of a small chemical tanker. It gets narrow. I could see forward. It looked like we were gonna hit. It was late dusk so you could see. We went port to port at the last second. No fog with the best radar. You can’t miss a cruise ship. I can see many collisions on that river in the old days.
What an amazing channel, just watched 2 videos, a container ship that ruptures its fire line and korean ferry. So much detail crammed into each video and it is better than any sinilar show on TV.
The host is great and fun to watch!
Thanks for such amazing content, keep up the good work and doing what your doing. Your instincts are perfect and dont ldt anyone convince you to change a single thing about your videos!
I cant wait to watch all the other videos ok the channel, open ocean stuff is particularly scary and it takes balls to be a seamen.
Mahalo form Hawaii!
Awesome channel. Can you do any videos on ships in Lake Ontario it's in my backyard.
I am really enjoying your content. Fantastic channel, great narrator/narration.👏
Thanks. Great to have you on board
Great timing for this video. I live in the region and it looks nice out on the water, but it is still violently cold. You won't survive minutes if you have an accident. Don't go out unless you own a good drysuit.
Another great video! Thank you!
👍🏻
Have read and watched many other accounts of this tragedy.
Thank you for your excellent re-telling!
Well done video.
Thanks 👍🏻
Whats funny with boats is they operate on a different set of rules. Like if Im driving on the wrong side of the road and I hit someone, we all know who's fault it is. Boats ... not so much. A boat can be on the wrong side, in fog, and they're still not sure who cause the accident.
p.s.: Saw something similar with planes. The tower tells the pilot "you are too high and too fast, go around" and the pilots just responded "nah we got this, landing" and then proceeded to crash the plane.
on a vessel you are dealing with a heck of alot of variables. this channel was not as wide as it might seem. you need to be flexible to save lives.
Great video - really well explained-thank you.
Thanks 👍🏻
The company that determines what is ethical at sea is prounounced "soulless"? (Yeah I know it's SOLAS but still) Lol they should've thought that one through
No matter how many times I hear about this I never get over the idiocy of chugging along with the hatches and watertight doors open. It's like having a seatbelt and not using it. Given his demonstrably lax attitude toward safety I wouldn't doubt it if the captain of the Empress of Ireland lied as much as he could to cover his ass. Not to mention that his first priority with his ship sinking was to get on board the other vessel to blame the other guy.
Also... what use are lifeboats that can only be launched in clear weather and calm seas? The number of times you need to launch lifeboats under those specific conditions are pretty rare...
Thanks again for the content
She was a lovely ship! Beautiful lines and pleasing to the eye. A wonderfully narrated video covering the event succinctly and precisely. Well done and thank you👏🏻👏🏻🫶🏻
Thanks👌🏻
Yay! A new upload!
Hey great video as usual. Local place name pronunciation check, Govan is pronounced like the word oven with a g at the start, so like guven. Our flat is right on the Clyde, it's an old tenement that would have housed ship builders back in the day. Govan is just across the river from us, my father in law worked at the yards there.
I was looking for a comment like this. I had to replay the way he said Govan, as it baffled me 😂 like naw mate it’s pronounced guvan.
I honestly think it is cute how international people pronounce local (to me) place names 😅
Just horrific. I wasn't even aware of this.
the porthole issue is the same as Britannic, seems like there should've been a way to "automatically" close them...
As always, great video. Wish we could give you 5 stars instead of a single thumbs up.
🤣 Thanks I'll take that anyway.
I read about this years ago. Many of the stewards responsible for closing water tight doors stayed at their posts even as the water went above their heads, giving their lives to try to buy more time for the passengers. There are stories of crew taking off their vests, giving them to passengers and many other acts of bravery,
From what I recall, a greater ratio of crew died compared to passengers.
The radio operator, realising his batteries were dying, held down his key until all power was gone.
No. The survival rate for the crew was higher than it was for the passengers. Of the approximate 1,000 passengers, only 217 survived while over half of the 420 crew survived.
Awesome!!
The water.
Congrats on the french words! From Qc, Canada!
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This happened right in front of where i live
I think that's the first video on the subject I saw where someone bothered to pronounce "Storstad" correctly. Cheers!
Surprisingly similar to 1986 Admiral Nakhimov (ex-Berlin) disaster.
Good video. But as a Scot I need to correct the way you mispronounced Govan, it’s pronounced Guvan/Guven. But words that start GOV are pronounced GUV & that isn’t a Scottish thing, that’s how it works for the English language as a whole. Like government for example; the “o” is pronounced as a “u”
🤭 fair though. I think the best thing to follow up with is "I never met a nice South African". We butcher your language and I'm sure a host of other things. 😂
@@waterlinestories Scots is different fae English. Govan is a Scots word that’s been anglicised. I’ve got mates who’re fae South Africa & honestly Americans butcher Scots & English worse than anyone else 😂
If I were the Captain, I would have pulled over as much as O could, and stop there, and wait until the other ship passed.
There was heavy fog. Also, radar had not been developed yet. So, how would they have known when the other ship had passed?
Seems irresponsible of the captain leaving all the bulkhead doors open while underway with 1500 souls onboard.
It was also contrary to CP regulations.
Not according to inquiry testimony.
Chinese metal salvage have been going around stealing these protected gravesites for the metal salvage and some in my country have been robbed, with it also the skeletons of soldiers and passengers which were tossed like trash. Hopefully they haven't touched this site yet but we know so far they have robbed plenty sites with no regard to respect.
I'm pretty sure this site's location will be safe from illegal Chinese salvors (Canadian territorial water's), but I have seen some things about WW2 wrecks being illegally salvaged. Pretty disgusting in my opinion.
source?
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@@calci2679i read reports on this online as well, the reason is the steel before ww2 has no radioisotopes present in it which makes it just slightly more stealthy and hard to detect by certain scanners
Thus prized for their steel & often unattended, these wreckages have been pillaged often by the Chinese scrappers
@@chupacabra304 The whole radioactive steel thing WAS an issue but hasn't been for years the last I heard.
Open to new sources if you have any.
Water. Water sank the Empress of Ireland
What’s with the derpy music?
Leafs
People really need to Stop referring to the TITANIC as "The Unsinkable Ship". 😐
those nutty sea pandas like to sink boats....it was orcas lol
Ok, now someone NEEDS to do a video on the stories of the six divers who died exploring the wreck, because I’m tired of seeing the same ‘diving gone wrong’ vids! 😂
Just FYI you have an extra P in your thumbnail
Oopps. Well spottted
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