I'm learning Greek and was quite overwhelmed by the complexity of the grammar. I wasn't interested in learning the grammar until I had listened to and understood enough of the language to feel comfortable and interested enough to want to learn grammar. Even then, I started in the middle of my grammar book, where the point that interested me began. After that, my interest and progress flowed naturally, even though not in sequence. ❤
We completely agree with witch your approach, @mgraulau. Grammar is not so important at the beginning of learning a language. It makes much more sense to focus on input activities, i.e. listening and reading instead. But we cannot get to a fluent level without grammar. It was great that you started with the grammar point that interested you, personally. Language learning has to be fun 🙂 Barbara from the LM team
An excellent presentation. This is certainly the way I approached French grammar, and I am now studying German in the same way. I am relieved to hear that I am in good company. An advantage of your method is that one learns enough to communicate, and one can always avoid using a given piece of complex grammar that one does not understand. In practice one can absorb the harder bits later on. My belief is that the student has first to fill their brain with as much of the language as possible by explicitly studying, and then when they have a broad base, use huge amounts of input to make that knowledge automatic i.e. implicit. With French my knowledge rocketed once I could use audio input, initially learner podcasts, then native material.
This was a really nicely explained concept! In the 4 years of Spanish in high school I only learned a few tenses in-depth (present, simple past, continuous, etc) and even though I mastered those, I still don't know really know how to say "have been" or "had done" tenses at all. And all the exercises would always be about the one concept/tense we just learned instead of an open ended exercise where we have to choose which tense is appropriate.
Thank you for bringing up an interesting concept in grammar learning. For some it works, but for some it might not, but for a practical purpose it is workable advice though. I recently started to learn Arabic, particularly with the grammar, specifically with morphology which requires repetitive approach to memorise the formation of tense, person, number and case endings. To tell the truth I literary know no words in this language, for that purpose I need to be engaged in learning basic vocabulary and conjugating verbs in three tenses. Unfortunately, I do not have any textbooks now. What is even more challenging, particularly in Arabic is pronunciation as some consonant sounds are alien to me and I have to really put lots of preasure on my vocal cords and articulation. Although a poliglot way of learning grammar is covered in this video, I decided to write about some other vital aspects of language learning.
Hi! I am researching about your suggest...I have studied a long time, but I don't speak very well...When I was a child, I hate english but was important studed to school. I imagine that was SPY to study. Now Iam 54 years old...I don't hate, but I have difficult to learn...I don't have problems to learn. Just I need speak english. Tks for sharing ideas.
Hi, thank you for your video! 😂😅😂 I agree with you, but in my case the most difficult part of learning language is to memorise a lot of vocabulary for me it is quite difficult right now while I am learning Dutch (my 3rd foreign language).
You can pay attention to grammar practically in any resource you're listening to or reading. But reading is better since you have more time to notice various grammar structures, think about them, note them down and even find more information if you don't understand why something is used the way it is. And of course, the best way to actively practice grammar is through effective grammar exercises. Lydia talks about them in this video: ruclips.net/video/yQ5meBPxi7U/видео.html Barbara from the LM team
Very interesting lesson! In the opportunity, I wish that Jesus, the Name above all names (Phillipians 2), bless you, and may you feed from His Word and Salvation! Greetings from Vitória da Conquista, Bahia State, Brazil.
I haven't studied grammar in a long time, but I used to do it the traditional way and I had the traditional results unfortunately. Thanks for the video!
I'm learning Greek and was quite overwhelmed by the complexity of the grammar. I wasn't interested in learning the grammar until I had listened to and understood enough of the language to feel comfortable enough and interested enough to want to learn grammar. Even then, I started in the middle of my grammar book, where the point that interested me began. After that, my interest and progress flowed naturally, even though not in sequence. ❤
I'm actually frustrated that I can't find grammar drills in my target language (what Machová here calls "repetitive exercises"). Yes, they are boring, but they're fantastic for training speed. Having to stop and "decide" every. single. time. how to form what I want to say in a conversation slows the entire conversation to a halt and just discourages me. I should add though, that I am only craving them now at an intermediate level. And I certainly wouldn't use them exclusively as a beginner.
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I'm learning Greek and was quite overwhelmed by the complexity of the grammar. I wasn't interested in learning the grammar until I had listened to and understood enough of the language to feel comfortable and interested enough to want to learn grammar. Even then, I started in the middle of my grammar book, where the point that interested me began. After that, my interest and progress flowed naturally, even though not in sequence. ❤
We completely agree with witch your approach, @mgraulau. Grammar is not so important at the beginning of learning a language. It makes much more sense to focus on input activities, i.e. listening and reading instead. But we cannot get to a fluent level without grammar. It was great that you started with the grammar point that interested you, personally. Language learning has to be fun 🙂 Barbara from the LM team
An excellent presentation. This is certainly the way I approached French grammar, and I am now studying German in the same way. I am relieved to hear that I am in good company. An advantage of your method is that one learns enough to communicate, and one can always avoid using a given piece of complex grammar that one does not understand. In practice one can absorb the harder bits later on. My belief is that the student has first to fill their brain with as much of the language as possible by explicitly studying, and then when they have a broad base, use huge amounts of input to make that knowledge automatic i.e. implicit. With French my knowledge rocketed once I could use audio input, initially learner podcasts, then native material.
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This was a really nicely explained concept! In the 4 years of Spanish in high school I only learned a few tenses in-depth (present, simple past, continuous, etc) and even though I mastered those, I still don't know really know how to say "have been" or "had done" tenses at all. And all the exercises would always be about the one concept/tense we just learned instead of an open ended exercise where we have to choose which tense is appropriate.
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That's a great way of approaching language learning
Thank you very much
Good analogy.
Thank you for bringing up an interesting concept in grammar learning. For some it works, but for some it might not, but for a practical purpose it is workable advice though. I recently started to learn Arabic, particularly with the grammar, specifically with morphology which requires repetitive approach to memorise the formation of tense, person, number and case endings. To tell the truth I literary know no words in this language, for that purpose I need to be engaged in learning basic vocabulary and conjugating verbs in three tenses. Unfortunately, I do not have any textbooks now. What is even more challenging, particularly in Arabic is pronunciation as some consonant sounds are alien to me and I have to really put lots of preasure on my vocal cords and articulation. Although a poliglot way of learning grammar is covered in this video, I decided to write about some other vital aspects of language learning.
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Thank you, Ma'am. Very informative
Hi! I am researching about your suggest...I have studied a long time, but I don't speak very well...When I was a child, I hate english but was important studed to school. I imagine that was SPY to study. Now Iam 54 years old...I don't hate, but I have difficult to learn...I don't have problems to learn. Just I need speak english. Tks for sharing ideas.
Hi, thank you for your video!
😂😅😂 I agree with you, but in my case the most difficult part of learning language is to memorise a lot of vocabulary for me it is quite difficult right now while I am learning Dutch (my 3rd foreign language).
Very helpful. Thank you. :)
How to learn grammar in this way? Are there any resources that we can use and practice? Or just consume content and notice different patterns?
You can pay attention to grammar practically in any resource you're listening to or reading. But reading is better since you have more time to notice various grammar structures, think about them, note them down and even find more information if you don't understand why something is used the way it is. And of course, the best way to actively practice grammar is through effective grammar exercises. Lydia talks about them in this video: ruclips.net/video/yQ5meBPxi7U/видео.html Barbara from the LM team
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Can you please discuss how to overcome the intermediate plateau in language learning ?
What is the intermediate plateau?
@@StillAliveAndKicking_ when you get stuck in the language learning and feel no progress?
@@Dude-ln8pe What language are you studying and how? Did you make progress?
Very interesting lesson! In the opportunity, I wish that Jesus, the Name above all names (Phillipians 2), bless you, and may you feed from His Word and Salvation!
Greetings from Vitória da Conquista, Bahia State, Brazil.
How do you learn grammar? What works for you?
I haven't studied grammar in a long time, but I used to do it the traditional way and I had the traditional results unfortunately. Thanks for the video!
I'm learning Greek and was quite overwhelmed by the complexity of the grammar. I wasn't interested in learning the grammar until I had listened to and understood enough of the language to feel comfortable enough and interested enough to want to learn grammar. Even then, I started in the middle of my grammar book, where the point that interested me began. After that, my interest and progress flowed naturally, even though not in sequence. ❤
School helps us to be stuck.
I'm actually frustrated that I can't find grammar drills in my target language (what Machová here calls "repetitive exercises"). Yes, they are boring, but they're fantastic for training speed. Having to stop and "decide" every. single. time. how to form what I want to say in a conversation slows the entire conversation to a halt and just discourages me. I should add though, that I am only craving them now at an intermediate level. And I certainly wouldn't use them exclusively as a beginner.
If you want to react faster in a conversation, I would suggest more active learning and practising of vocabulary 🙂 Barbara from the LM team
With 1000-2000 hours of input you won't have to "decide" on grammar or vocab or anything else.
- What word becomes shorter when you add two letters to it?
= short. 🤪