Yeah but they were shoes that she worked hard for and paid for with her hard earned money, and yeah she could have not gone to her house but she went to be a food friend so no they arent "just shoes" people work hard to have nice things.
This episode felt so spiritually healing. These moms be shaming the singletons for no reason and gleaming over their false sense of superiority. I love the part where sales lady asks her to control the kids. It was karmic.
Exactly! They are just jealous that they can no longer enjoy that singles life and miserable that they are stuck with kids that they don’t know how to educate nor control. Also, I wish stores would do that in real life. If a salesperson says that to an entitled mother now a days she would raise hell and let her rugrats keep running around the store and placing their sticky fingers on the expensive shoes lol
@@salviaofficinalis02 what r u talking about? She took the shoes off. We r clearly discussing the underlying meaning of the episode. This comment has nothing to do with that.
It was great. I enjoyed this chapter and specially the last part. And Carrie's idea of telling her that she was getting married to herself, was brilliant. I wish I could do that so that I receive just a little from all the presents I gave to my friends when getting married and having children.
@@LauRa-re9un I normally hate Carrie but in this episode she was 100% right. Kyra was being a supercilious bitch! She made her guests take their shoes off so its her responsibility to replace Carrie's shoes. I'd be horrified if one of my guests did that and I'd be making it a priority to find out who stole them to read them the riot act or just replace them
@@inesarif8497 true, the only time I’ve ever felt unconditional love for someone has been for my dog and he passed away last year 😔 you never know how much a dog’s company can mean to you until you don’t have them anymore.
Her saying "we shouldn't have to pay for your extravagant lifestyle" is outrageous. She lost her shoes at your house lady. You freaking OWE it to Carrie.
Also I love how she claims a pair of 485 is "extravagant lifestyle" (don't get me wrong, Carrie absolutely shouldn't have bought over a 100 of those lol that WAS extravagant, but it is her business and here the question is just about 1 pair, which honestly isn't that big of a deal especially in their social circles) but her responsibilities include managing her several houses. Like... that's literally extravagant.
@@isaa8521 Okay, well, objectively as show watchers who have all the facts, we CAN say that it was wrong. Had Carrie not had Big and her INCREDIBLE friends to fall back on, she'd have lost the apartment she loves and be stuck paying way more for way less. It is absolutely wrong to splurge 40 000 dollars for shoes when you live paycheck to paycheck. (Carrie was also quite irresponsible with her financial decision making, what with her not even considering buying because "New York is a city of renters". You shouldn't make financial decisions about your future based on what you think everyone else is doing) That is for her to discuss with her close friends, for the bank teller to be frank about, and for us show watchers to understand. BUT, it of course had nothing to do with this mean, hypocrite lady that decided to haggle how much she is going to pay for the property that was stolen in her home by her own fault.
This was a good episode. And Carrie was right, single people spend so much time, energy, and money celebrating everything their married and partnered friends do. That celebration doesn't work the same in reverse.
This is why I think we should have graduation registries, as well as self-employment registries, and many other kinds. It's time to celebrate and support things beyond marriage and kids.
@@SopranoRocker2010 Yes, good idea! That first home purchase by a single person is another huge reason to celebrate. Marriage is the only adventure available to the timid. 😜😁
But they don't. I hate this 'I'm a mother' badge some have to constantly wear, especially when they had a completely different lifestyle before motherhood. I know that raising another human being is a tough and dignifying job, probably one of the hardest jobs on earth, but it was a choice. So, these women should also respect their single peers' choices, who also have a REAL life without kids. If they can't do that, motherhood is only proving to be something they regret and can't cope with. Jealousy and regret. They haven't grown as people, despite the maturity that motherhood requires and is labelled to have.
But . . . .Carrie could have refused and then left, OR kept her shoes with her (which would have been extremely uncomfortable and just plain rude). Tatum played that role perfectly.
It's perfectly normal to ask people to take off shoes when they enter your home. It is, however, rude to assume it's ok not to take off the shoes. Nobody wants dirt from outside into their homes.
Not to mention the fact, that that woman seems entirely undisturbed by the fact, that she has a ruthless thief among her circle of friends. People close enough to her, to get invited into her home for a special occasion. She just acts, like the shoes mysteriously disappeared. I would have been so embarrassed and pissed off in her position....
She seriously says her responsibilities includes HOUSES plural, but she shames Carrie for her "extravagant lifestyle." People who splurge on multiple homes don't get to talk shit about footwear. This was my favorite episode because this theme rang so true. I'm so glad they covered this topic.
I was thinking that same thing! Like how many MILLIONS is that apartment/condo alone? And she can't put out the cash to cover the cost of her friend's/guest's belongings that were stolen from her home because she made her leave them?
This was a very interesting episode. Many different ways of looking at the situation. That being said, I have kids - biological and step and I would NEVER dream of telling my childless friends they don’t have a “real life”. My god. How condescending.
As much as I hate Carrie she was in the right here! Kyra was an uppity supercilious bitch! She's a hypocrite she didn't want people walking dirt into her home but was fine for her husband to smoke a joint in the house with her kids in the next room! Carrie did good to keep control I would have told Kyra some truths about herself after mocking and belitting my lifestyle she's a grade A hypocritical cunt!
Loved this episode. I agree with Carrie here. Some of us love kids too, but we choose not to have them and we can splurge or treat ourselves. Our choice. 👠👡🩰
Its never ok to shame women on their lifestyle choices whether its to be married or to be single or to be a mother, into fashion or not into fashion. I think thats the point they were trying to make here
The fact that she said we have responsibilities children and houses - plural , they have more than one house and they are lecturing Carrie on her extravagant lifestyle
it's not even about being single or her lifestyle choices, it's about being a good host. carrie was her guest, the shoes were lost under her roof, which means it's her responsibility.
It was one of her friends who stole shoes at her apartment. I would be humilatat to know that. Ask everyone who was there who it was. Especiali the one woman whos shoes still was at her apartment
@@lilspring1057 Nope. It should be the owner of the house. They're responsible for their guests including her friend who stole the shoes. Since she being the host was no help at all she should pay for the shoes. She's the one who asked the guests to remove their shoes.
I'm on Carrie on this one. I think she's willing to accept the 200, just that her friend mock her choices. If it's a phone i bet she will feel more sorry about it.
I loooove this episode! I’ve spent thousands of dollars on my friends and their weddings and babies and presents for their weddings and babies… meanwhile I don’t even get a “happy birthday” most of the time. It’s so messed up!
Having dealt with this, since I became single again, I can relate. A family I know, who are quite wealthy, allowed one of their teenagers to drive my car when I was out of state for 2 months. I thought it might be nice for one of their children to make a bit of cash during summer break, house sitting for me. The house was clean, when I got back, no problems there. My car was NOT new, in fact it was 12 years old. I take very good care of my car, keep it clean, have it serviced when there is a problem, regular oil changes. We had an agreement, in writing, that NO ONE was allowed to drive my car while I was gone. The teenager lost the gas cap which had been attached before I left, left fast food garbage in my car & it smelled like someone had been smoking weed in it. There was a long scratch on the passenger side & the license plate was bent. I had just happened to have a few photos taken, of me & a friend, dated as 3 days before I left. The photos showed that the scratch was not there, before, that the license plate was not bent. I also pointed out that the parents AND their child had signed the agreement that no one was to drive my car. The parents tried to throw it back on me with, "kids will be kids" & "How do you know what weed smells like?" I got estimates to show how much the repairs would cost & let them know that I wanted their "kids will be kids" to clean my car. OMG! By the way they reacted, it was as if I asked them to buy a new Bentley for me & my car is a Chevy. I knew I was going to have to either suck it up or take them to small claims court. Either way, the damage to the friendship was done. I took them to small claims court. The parents ended up paying more than they would have if they had just paid for the repairs & had their child clean my car. There was not even an apology from the parents or their child.
They sound so selfish. It's in moments like those when you realise that maybe your friends were never friends at all, and that they didn't respect you as much as you deserve. I'm sorry you lost your friendship. I am glad you got what you were due though.
I'm sorry you went through that! Thank God for the pictures! If those parents don't change their "discipline" sounds like they'll be cleaning after their kids into adulthood. Like that saying "if you don't discipline your kids when young you'll be dealing with their lawyers later in life" something of that nature.
@@Azuca03 I totally believe that. I have seen some examples of that both in adult children of friends totally screwing up or being very successful in life, sometimes a combo of a little of each. I was NOT a perfect parent, my 4 kiddos will agree with that. However, I did "fix myself" when my first two were in single digits of age, to break the cycle of child abuse that had been happening for several generations in both of my parents families. I busted my azz, working, sacrificing, teaching my kiddos so I could be the best parent I could possibly be. All 4 are now kind hearted, educated, financially secure adults who are in careers they love, married for love & very happy in their lives. If just one of my kiddos were like this or just 2, I might chalk it up to luck. All 4 are doing well & making positive contributions to the world. It was a lot of work! Having seen other parents spoil their children badly, I didn't say anything unless I was asked, which almost never happened. The proof is in how their children are, now, as people of adult age, still living with their parents, doing nothing with their lives, still hitting mommy & daddy up for cash or help when they screw up. My children were told, early on, that they must have a plan in place before they graduate High School, because I expected them to get out on their own afterward, just as I did, just as their father did. I worked with them, taking them to job fairs, university campuses starting at age 5, for them to get an idea of what they wanted to do with their lives. My only son was spoiled badly by his father, so, it took him a bit longer, he still got there.
I loved this chapter! I really loved it. For all the friends I have that don't understand that women without children as myself, have a life. And that kids can be annoying also.
I got my shoes stolen once at a dinner party and I have never forgotten it. I knew who stole them too, but I couldn't prove it. I was very angry/sad because while they weren't expensive, they were a sentimental vintage pair, and I couldn't replace them.
Oh please she is the one who stole her shoes bc shes pissed about her life and wants to be selfish instead of a mom. She was jealous of carrie not having kids and being free. Sounds like to me she misses her old life and knew exactly how much those shoes cost.
@@imyourfriend8582 I feel like if she was the thief she'd just return them and lie about them being misplaced than go and buy a whole new pair. She probably just didn't want to accuse her other friends.
This is so real. I hate that some women when they become mothers change and become so judgmental and condescending to childless women. I have two cousins who are a living proof of this. As soon as they became mothers they started treating me differently. They would talk down on me like i was some unworthy and ignorant person. They would think that whatever they say, they are right because apparently having a child made them akways right. And they would make snide comments about me still studying, living with my parents and trying to achieve my dreams like that wasnt real life and real problems but they only have a real life.
Oh honey i am so sorry but how old are you? Still fertile? Is great that some women like yourself don't feel is not that important to make a family, good for you.
@@blue-chaos96striker72 thank you glad someone understands. I am only 27 and those cousins become pregnant one at 21 and the other at 18. I mean it is way too early.
@@blue-chaos96striker72 Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. If you're not, you realize Miranda and Charlotte bothhad children in their late 30s? 27 is just fine
When the sales lady said.. "cud u watch ur children, we don't want them touching the shoes".... That was the perfect reply for when she had said to Carrie "they are just shoes"
This was such a turnoff, but such a realistic view on some “mothers” they seem to change once having children and expect everyone else around them to all of a sudden share the same views. End of the day, Carrie didn’t want to take her shoes off, they were expensive and they were taken from her friends house. Why just because her friend now has kids does it make Carrie’s thoughts of her belongings any less important? It’s been really depressing and hard seeing friends who have become mothers and all of a sudden changing, judging everyone else who doesn’t have kids, judging others for complaining because it can’t come close to their life because they aren’t a mother yet, judging what their friends still spend or waste their money on. I’m over it. I can’t wait to be a mother, but there’s no way in heck will I turn out like this, especially with friends I’ve had for years who I should know best and not think it’s ok to suddenly judge them just because they aren’t mothers and still want to buy whatever the hell they want 🤦🏻♀️
One of the best episodes. I’m my 30’s watching this amazing show, I always felt a bit better each week after watching. My single life was more ok than I thought. That was 20 or so years ago …. I now have two teens about to leave the nest, a husband with cancer, and I have a feeling this time next year i may very well be back in that single lady shoes. Guess what? I will never let go of that status again! Never. ❤
I would have done the same, abso-fucking-lutely! They were freaking Manolo Blahniks!! If I ever had to go to a party and remove my manolos, I would turn left and leave. I love my shoes♥️
This episode made me so upset , she made it seem like Carrie didn’t have a real life because she was single. And the fact Carrie has supported her life changes by even coming to the baby shower with a gift shows how one sided that woman was
The scene really pisses me off because as a mother and also someone who likes designers occasionally , I can respect someone who doesn’t want to have kids and spend their money on Manolos.
I hate someone who thinks about themselves superior just because they gained a family..... My single a$$ was hurting watching these because it felt so real, the judgement some people could show towards the ones who decided...otherwisely.
I've experienced this kind of attitude by a married woman I used to hang out. She selfishly: I'm married full of obligations and you're single and carefree Some of them treat single women with anger and even try to force them to accept and tolerate their personal life decisions and choices underestimating others.
When Carrie met Karen. I don't really care about brands but even I, a 31 year old man have this pair of *B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L* black Kenneth Cole loafers that I adore which were not cheap. The Karen should have shown a higher sense of responsibility after asking her guests, especially single or childless folk to leave their shoes behind because "I have kids who lick the floor." Karen: I have kids so I'm not going to pay for your lost expensive pair of shoes that ended up getting stolen due to my Facebook Mom beliefs. No offense but I don't think we should pay for your extravagant lifestyle. Me: Cool, see you in court.
I literally don’t get why this mother couldn’t call her damn guest list and find the shoes. she just aggressively didn’t give a fuck and wasn’t shy to show it
Here she so proud of her kids and they're misbehaving in a very nice exclusive store not even paying attention or staying close to their mother. She must not be a good mother if they don't know how to behave in a store like that. And here she thinks because she's a mother she's above everyone else who don't have kids
I did think it was good of the friend to catch on to what she had done and to go forward and replace Carrie's shoes. She learned the lesson. Other women in her place just would have rolled their eyes and never spoken to Carrie again.
tbh I think the most powerful lesson here is not even parents vs single people, it’s domineering types vs push-overs. sometimes, you just gotta be “that bitch” and claim what you want.
If I’m asked to remove my new shoes at a party with strangers, I’d turned right around and leave. Also, I’d have kept the receipt to return the gift. Yes, I’m petty and work too hard for my shoes.
u then will not have friends if u r in asia, most modern family takes off their shoes in house, bring a bag, put the shoes in the bag and carry them with you , if ur shoes r fancy and the party has strangers
Me too! She was envious when she saw that Carrie gets to splurge on a pair of designer shoes instead of kids / houses etc . She wanted them to make herself feel luxurious like her friend Carrie. Otherwise she wouldn’t have insulted Carrie about her lifestyle choices. She was such a total bitch
I don’t usually agree with Carrie in episodes as I find her really self-absorbed and judgemental but here she was in the right. When I was single and childless I was often talked down to and patronised by people with kids. Once at a family gathering I was explaining how hectic my work was at that moment and how tired and run down I was feeling. My cousin’s wife laughed at me and said, “Awww sweetie, you don’t really know what tired is until you’ve had children! Your life is cupcakes compared to mine!” For the rest of the day she kept sending snide remarks at me, sniggering in my direction and asking if I needed a nap since I was ‘sooooooo tired’. She made me feel so small and stupid I was close to tears all day. I’ve since had kids myself and yes while it is exhausting I would NEVER put down another person’s feelings and make out my life was so much better or harder simply because I’m a mother! Also, that cousin in law was a stay at home mum with a nanny AND a cleaner so I don’t think she had that much to do really!
As a woman who didn't get married until this year, at age 38, I know just what you mean. There's so much pressure, so many subtle jabs at single and/or motherless women. It's hard, and really works at shaming women and making them feel out of place.
Yikes, what a bitch. Sorry you had to listen to that, hon. Hopefully your cousin will get sick of her toxic ass and divorce her. See if she'll like that having rubbed in her face.
I love this episode. Not all the people Is for having children just to have them. Sometimes they think they have a more important life than singles' just because them have children.
Why didn't she get a shoe cover for all the guess or a bag and the guess can drag their shoes instead of just leaving it for some person to steal them.
On top of that, she made Carrie go barefoot in her apartment, don't think she was wearing panty-hose. How clean were her floors REALLY with 3 kids running around mucking the place up? Not having shoes on would be even more unhygienic for all concerned.
I commend Carrie from this episode. I mean, who steals someone's shoes (that you paid good money for) at a friend's house. Then Carrie's friend had the nerve to judge her on paying that much for a pair of shoes. And what makes it worse was that the hosts didn't even care about the situation.
If she is paying for Carries lifestyle,than Carrie is also paying for her lifestyle..She chose to have the baby,she chose to register in that expensive plCe
Oh I've been in her "shoes" before I got married at 40. Maybe not about living above my means but in other belittling ways concerning not having any children.
I had a child later in life, my own choice and I can tell you im judged nearly as much now as I was when I was single, comments like "but you'll be in your 60s when they're a teen or does it bother you being an old mom" Some people just can't help themselves but thankfully not all people are like this! Always remember their opinion is not your problem....it's their's. Ive found that my response in my best patronising voice (which I don't mean at all btw) "I feel so bad for you though being so tied down so young but as long as you're ok with it" has worked quite well so far 😁
This show was so great - how many of us have had to buy wedding gifts, baby shower gifts, and engagement parties for people when we were single? I swear, I probably have spent thousands of dollars over the past 40 years. lol
My sons dad accidently threw out my Jimmy Choo's at over 2100 bucks and I had only worn them 1 time. After that I never bought another pair of expensive heels.
Looooooooved Linda Evangelista in this as the shoe sales lady, especially when she told Tatum O'Neal to control her children to not touch the shoes, epic! Ironically in real life, Tatum O'Neal lost custody of her own kids to her ex, John McEnroe due to her drug addiction.
I have many kids and I don't even ask people to take off shoes in my home......simple really. I also have no problem with how women without kids choose to sepnd their money. Their life so their choice.
They were just shoes 😂😂😂
Yeah sure and clothes are just clothes.
Designer shoes... you know?
@@immandm Must be her Manolo 😂
Yeah but they were shoes that she worked hard for and paid for with her hard earned money, and yeah she could have not gone to her house but she went to be a food friend so no they arent "just shoes" people work hard to have nice things.
Michelle Marie that’s right
This episode felt so spiritually healing. These moms be shaming the singletons for no reason and gleaming over their false sense of superiority. I love the part where sales lady asks her to control the kids. It was karmic.
Exactly! They are just jealous that they can no longer enjoy that singles life and miserable that they are stuck with kids that they don’t know how to educate nor control. Also, I wish stores would do that in real life. If a salesperson says that to an entitled mother now a days she would raise hell and let her rugrats keep running around the store and placing their sticky fingers on the expensive shoes lol
I couldn’t agree more
You don't know how lonely a mother can feel... I see people being selfish with each other.
@@salviaofficinalis02 what r u talking about? She took the shoes off. We r clearly discussing the underlying meaning of the episode. This comment has nothing to do with that.
Love u for this post so much
If she wouldve just paid the $485 to Carrie, she wouldnt have had to pay for the taxes also. 😆
It was so satisfying to watch the store girl saying "could you please watch your children? We don't want them touching the shoes".
KARMA
Michael Patrick King's writing was great like that. Every little joke was always readdressed full circle in the best episodes.
Yep. Love that part
It was great. I enjoyed this chapter and specially the last part. And Carrie's idea of telling her that she was getting married to herself, was brilliant. I wish I could do that so that I receive just a little from all the presents I gave to my friends when getting married and having children.
@@LauRa-re9un I normally hate Carrie but in this episode she was 100% right. Kyra was being a supercilious bitch! She made her guests take their shoes off so its her responsibility to replace Carrie's shoes. I'd be horrified if one of my guests did that and I'd be making it a priority to find out who stole them to read them the riot act or just replace them
This episode was not even about shoes it was about the unspoken war between people with children and people who choose not to have them....
Yessss this is so true. Im married but have no kids and im soo tired of the "you dont know real love until youve had children" bs
@@mochs62512 yeah ! I say “you don’t know real love until you’ve had a dog” 😂
@@inesarif8497 yooooo a true statement indeed. That is unconditional for sure.
@@inesarif8497 true, the only time I’ve ever felt unconditional love for someone has been for my dog and he passed away last year 😔 you never know how much a dog’s company can mean to you until you don’t have them anymore.
@@gee2541 *virtual hug* dogs really are the greatest gift to mankind
Her saying "we shouldn't have to pay for your extravagant lifestyle" is outrageous. She lost her shoes at your house lady. You freaking OWE it to Carrie.
Also I love how she claims a pair of 485 is "extravagant lifestyle" (don't get me wrong, Carrie absolutely shouldn't have bought over a 100 of those lol that WAS extravagant, but it is her business and here the question is just about 1 pair, which honestly isn't that big of a deal especially in their social circles) but her responsibilities include managing her several houses. Like... that's literally extravagant.
@@lulupomegranatethere’s nothing wrong with Carrie buying a bunch of those shoes. It’s her money and she can spend it however she wants.
@@isaa8521 Okay, well, objectively as show watchers who have all the facts, we CAN say that it was wrong. Had Carrie not had Big and her INCREDIBLE friends to fall back on, she'd have lost the apartment she loves and be stuck paying way more for way less. It is absolutely wrong to splurge 40 000 dollars for shoes when you live paycheck to paycheck. (Carrie was also quite irresponsible with her financial decision making, what with her not even considering buying because "New York is a city of renters". You shouldn't make financial decisions about your future based on what you think everyone else is doing)
That is for her to discuss with her close friends, for the bank teller to be frank about, and for us show watchers to understand.
BUT, it of course had nothing to do with this mean, hypocrite lady that decided to haggle how much she is going to pay for the property that was stolen in her home by her own fault.
@@lulupomegranateand you would have missed out on your obsessive moralising.
@@lizziebkennedy7505 It is not obsessive!
This was a good episode. And Carrie was right, single people spend so much time, energy, and money celebrating everything their married and partnered friends do. That celebration doesn't work the same in reverse.
This is why I think we should have graduation registries, as well as self-employment registries, and many other kinds. It's time to celebrate and support things beyond marriage and kids.
This is such a true story!!!!
@@SopranoRocker2010 that’s so great, a self employment registry! I would finally be admitted into my family hall of success.
@@SopranoRocker2010
Yes, good idea!
That first home purchase by a single person is another huge reason
to celebrate.
Marriage is the only adventure
available to the timid. 😜😁
Exactly.
This is a huge deal. Married friends should care about single friends as well. Everyone's choice is valuable
But they don't. I hate this 'I'm a mother' badge some have to constantly wear, especially when they had a completely different lifestyle before motherhood. I know that raising another human being is a tough and dignifying job, probably one of the hardest jobs on earth, but it was a choice. So, these women should also respect their single peers' choices, who also have a REAL life without kids. If they can't do that, motherhood is only proving to be something they regret and can't cope with. Jealousy and regret. They haven't grown as people, despite the maturity that motherhood requires and is labelled to have.
@@rose_yts well spoken 👏👏👏👏👏👏
@@rose_yts Exactly, their lack of empathy is resentment
@@rose_yts VERY well said.
So satisfying when she says , please watch your children we don't want them touching shoes... absolutely love it
You made her take off her shoes, they got stolen in your home, you owe her for the shoes plain and simple.
Miranda makes that point
But . . . .Carrie could have refused and then left, OR kept her shoes with her (which would have been extremely uncomfortable and just plain rude).
Tatum played that role perfectly.
It's perfectly normal to ask people to take off shoes when they enter your home. It is, however, rude to assume it's ok not to take off the shoes. Nobody wants dirt from outside into their homes.
@@nichegoseberazdvatri then it should be perfectly normal for the host to pay for the shoes when someone steals them.
Not to mention the fact, that that woman seems entirely undisturbed by the fact, that she has a ruthless thief among her circle of friends. People close enough to her, to get invited into her home for a special occasion. She just acts, like the shoes mysteriously disappeared. I would have been so embarrassed and pissed off in her position....
I’m glad she got her shoes.
Keia Love-Black Actually she got the new shoes! It’s much better! )😉 Carrie did everything right 👍
I would do the same!
Me to
I was always glad she got her shoes but assumed that was the end of the friendship!
No love loss there anyway, it would seem!
@@miltongurl28Not a great loss…
I don't, I'm glad she lost them
She seriously says her responsibilities includes HOUSES plural, but she shames Carrie for her "extravagant lifestyle."
People who splurge on multiple homes don't get to talk shit about footwear.
This was my favorite episode because this theme rang so true. I'm so glad they covered this topic.
Thank you!!!!!
I was thinking that same thing! Like how many MILLIONS is that apartment/condo alone? And she can't put out the cash to cover the cost of her friend's/guest's belongings that were stolen from her home because she made her leave them?
One of my favorite scenes of all time! “Please watch your kids, we don’t want them touching the shoes.” 😂😂👏🏻👏🏻😂😂👏🏻👏🏻💯💯
Yes! Shame that heffa for being a mom.😂
As a 29 year old single woman without kids...I hold this episode dear to my heart
Exactly! When you see others have houses, a husband and kids. Then 400 dollar shoes does not seem so much.
Yr still young
Amen ❤❤❤
This was a very interesting episode. Many different ways of looking at the situation.
That being said, I have kids - biological and step and I would NEVER dream of telling my childless friends they don’t have a “real life”. My god. How condescending.
As much as I hate Carrie she was in the right here! Kyra was an uppity supercilious bitch! She's a hypocrite she didn't want people walking dirt into her home but was fine for her husband to smoke a joint in the house with her kids in the next room! Carrie did good to keep control I would have told Kyra some truths about herself after mocking and belitting my lifestyle she's a grade A hypocritical cunt!
A friend said that to me once when he was with his bf for a month. I never looked at him the same way again.
Oh people will say if you’re “just” a stepmom, too. Have had it happen.
Married people ARE oftentimes condescending
Loved this episode. I agree with Carrie here. Some of us love kids too, but we choose not to have them and we can splurge or treat ourselves. Our choice. 👠👡🩰
She said "Houses" she can afford those shoes
Exactly! She was just trying to shame Carrie for having different priorities in how money is spent. That’s so disrespectful and insulting.
Its never ok to shame women on their lifestyle choices whether its to be married or to be single or to be a mother, into fashion or not into fashion. I think thats the point they were trying to make here
Absolutely! I agree 100%. I’m usually
shamed for where I shop, being single, and childless. This episode is a definite win!
Yeah but $485.00? That is insane. She should have graciously accepted the $200.00.
I wouldn't have asked the mom for anything. What an awkward situation. The mom was wrong though.
@@richalderson6069 then you probably don't know how much designer bags cost. It's more than $485 plus tax.
@@rayyana.8538 Thankfully she didn't get that stolen as well.
The fact that she said we have responsibilities children and houses - plural , they have more than one house and they are lecturing Carrie on her extravagant lifestyle
it's not even about being single or her lifestyle choices, it's about being a good host. carrie was her guest, the shoes were lost under her roof, which means it's her responsibility.
It's the responsibility of the person who took them. Offering to pay could be avery nice gesture, but I don't think it should be an obligation.
It was one of her friends who stole shoes at her apartment. I would be humilatat to know that. Ask everyone who was there who it was. Especiali the one woman whos shoes still was at her apartment
I believe Miranda, the lawyer, pointed out it's legally the owner of the apartment who needs to offer compensation for the shoes stolen in her house.
Correct! 👌🏻
@@lilspring1057 Nope. It should be the owner of the house. They're responsible for their guests including her friend who stole the shoes. Since she being the host was no help at all she should pay for the shoes. She's the one who asked the guests to remove their shoes.
I'm on Carrie on this one. I think she's willing to accept the 200, just that her friend mock her choices. If it's a phone i bet she will feel more sorry about it.
I loooove this episode! I’ve spent thousands of dollars on my friends and their weddings and babies and presents for their weddings and babies… meanwhile I don’t even get a “happy birthday” most of the time. It’s so messed up!
I’ve never understood this episode when I was younger but I totally get it now. Love it!
You look young. How younger were you when you watched it for the first time?
Choosing to have kids and on top of that, have multiple kids, is an extravagant life style.
Having dealt with this, since I became single again, I can relate. A family I know, who are quite wealthy, allowed one of their teenagers to drive my car when I was out of state for 2 months. I thought it might be nice for one of their children to make a bit of cash during summer break, house sitting for me. The house was clean, when I got back, no problems there.
My car was NOT new, in fact it was 12 years old. I take very good care of my car, keep it clean, have it serviced when there is a problem, regular oil changes.
We had an agreement, in writing, that NO ONE was allowed to drive my car while I was gone. The teenager lost the gas cap which had been attached before I left, left fast food garbage in my car & it smelled like someone had been smoking weed in it. There was a long scratch on the passenger side & the license plate was bent.
I had just happened to have a few photos taken, of me & a friend, dated as 3 days before I left. The photos showed that the scratch was not there, before, that the license plate was not bent. I also pointed out that the parents AND their child had signed the agreement that no one was to drive my car.
The parents tried to throw it back on me with, "kids will be kids" & "How do you know what weed smells like?"
I got estimates to show how much the repairs would cost & let them know that I wanted their "kids will be kids" to clean my car.
OMG!
By the way they reacted, it was as if I asked them to buy a new Bentley for me & my car is a Chevy.
I knew I was going to have to either suck it up or take them to small claims court. Either way, the damage to the friendship was done. I took them to small claims court. The parents ended up paying more than they would have if they had just paid for the repairs & had their child clean my car.
There was not even an apology from the parents or their child.
They sound so selfish. It's in moments like those when you realise that maybe your friends were never friends at all, and that they didn't respect you as much as you deserve.
I'm sorry you lost your friendship. I am glad you got what you were due though.
I'm sorry you went through that! Thank God for the pictures! If those parents don't change their "discipline" sounds like they'll be cleaning after their kids into adulthood. Like that saying "if you don't discipline your kids when young you'll be dealing with their lawyers later in life" something of that nature.
@@Azuca03 I totally believe that.
I have seen some examples of that both in adult children of friends totally screwing up or being very successful in life, sometimes a combo of a little of each.
I was NOT a perfect parent, my 4 kiddos will agree with that. However, I did "fix myself" when my first two were in single digits of age, to break the cycle of child abuse that had been happening for several generations in both of my parents families.
I busted my azz, working, sacrificing, teaching my kiddos so I could be the best parent I could possibly be.
All 4 are now kind hearted, educated, financially secure adults who are in careers they love, married for love & very happy in their lives.
If just one of my kiddos were like this or just 2, I might chalk it up to luck. All 4 are doing well & making positive contributions to the world. It was a lot of work!
Having seen other parents spoil their children badly, I didn't say anything unless I was asked, which almost never happened. The proof is in how their children are, now, as people of adult age, still living with their parents, doing nothing with their lives, still hitting mommy & daddy up for cash or help when they screw up.
My children were told, early on, that they must have a plan in place before they graduate High School, because I expected them to get out on their own afterward, just as I did, just as their father did. I worked with them, taking them to job fairs, university campuses starting at age 5, for them to get an idea of what they wanted to do with their lives.
My only son was spoiled badly by his father, so, it took him a bit longer, he still got there.
Good for you! People like that need to be held accountable
Oh I'm so sorry you went through that drama.
"Before I had a real life" wtf that was SOOOOO rude! 🥺
That revealed her character.... and I thought "She stole the shoes"
485??? now at least a 1000 lol
At least since last season
inflation
I loved this chapter! I really loved it. For all the friends I have that don't understand that women without children as myself, have a life. And that kids can be annoying also.
And single men too
I got my shoes stolen once at a dinner party and I have never forgotten it. I knew who stole them too, but I couldn't prove it. I was very angry/sad because while they weren't expensive, they were a sentimental vintage pair, and I couldn't replace them.
Oh please she is the one who stole her shoes bc shes pissed about her life and wants to be selfish instead of a mom. She was jealous of carrie not having kids and being free. Sounds like to me she misses her old life and knew exactly how much those shoes cost.
I knew something was off she kept avoiding the question and was being fidgety
That's what I've always thought! She stole the shoes!
Interesting point. Thank you!
Yeah, you're not telling me a woman who lives in a fancy apartment and has multiple homes hasn't bought designer stuff in the past.
@@imyourfriend8582 I feel like if she was the thief she'd just return them and lie about them being misplaced than go and buy a whole new pair. She probably just didn't want to accuse her other friends.
This is so real. I hate that some women when they become mothers change and become so judgmental and condescending to childless women. I have two cousins who are a living proof of this. As soon as they became mothers they started treating me differently. They would talk down on me like i was some unworthy and ignorant person. They would think that whatever they say, they are right because apparently having a child made them akways right. And they would make snide comments about me still studying, living with my parents and trying to achieve my dreams like that wasnt real life and real problems but they only have a real life.
Wait til their kids are teens they’ll wish they were smart enough to not have children like you lol
Oh honey i am so sorry but how old are you? Still fertile? Is great that some women like yourself don't feel is not that important to make a family, good for you.
@@blue-chaos96striker72 thank you glad someone understands. I am only 27 and those cousins become pregnant one at 21 and the other at 18. I mean it is way too early.
@@eveyk.1204 27 you should worry.
@@blue-chaos96striker72 Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. If you're not, you realize Miranda and Charlotte bothhad children in their late 30s? 27 is just fine
When the sales lady said.. "cud u watch ur children, we don't want them touching the shoes".... That was the perfect reply for when she had said to Carrie "they are just shoes"
That "before i had a real life" just hit below the belt. Single / childless people's lives are not any less real. This was a great episode ❤
This was such a turnoff, but such a realistic view on some “mothers” they seem to change once having children and expect everyone else around them to all of a sudden share the same views. End of the day, Carrie didn’t want to take her shoes off, they were expensive and they were taken from her friends house. Why just because her friend now has kids does it make Carrie’s thoughts of her belongings any less important? It’s been really depressing and hard seeing friends who have become mothers and all of a sudden changing, judging everyone else who doesn’t have kids, judging others for complaining because it can’t come close to their life because they aren’t a mother yet, judging what their friends still spend or waste their money on. I’m over it. I can’t wait to be a mother, but there’s no way in heck will I turn out like this, especially with friends I’ve had for years who I should know best and not think it’s ok to suddenly judge them just because they aren’t mothers and still want to buy whatever the hell they want 🤦🏻♀️
Me and my sister arguing about shoes… To quote Carrie, “I have a real life.”
One of the best episodes. I’m my 30’s watching this amazing show, I always felt a bit better each week after watching. My single life was more ok than I thought.
That was 20 or so years ago …. I now have two teens about to leave the nest, a husband with cancer, and I have a feeling this time next year i may very well be back in that single lady shoes.
Guess what?
I will never let go of that status again! Never. ❤
Those shoes are one of the most comfortable pair I own. Love this
It's a shame that the quality of writing from this does not appear in the new "And Just Like That" series.
This is the only moment I admire Carrie Bradshaw. Single people face such criticism all the time and we should know how to put people in their place.
Folks are envious. Being single is a freedom unlike any other.
I would have done the same, abso-fucking-lutely! They were freaking Manolo Blahniks!! If I ever had to go to a party and remove my manolos, I would turn left and leave. I love my shoes♥️
About half way through I remembered how this episode ended and I was smiling for the rest of the clip!
Love
Tom
This episode made me so upset , she made it seem like Carrie didn’t have a real life because she was single. And the fact Carrie has supported her life changes by even coming to the baby shower with a gift shows how one sided that woman was
One of my personal favourites chapters in the show!! 👏🏽👏🏽
OMG how many times I got that look Kyra gave to Carrie giving a speech about shoes ! great episode , one of the best 💞
The owner of the house probably stole them lol.
Love this episode. Smug marrieds like to think they have a monopoly on a "real life" and are better than singles, looking down at us
The scene really pisses me off because as a mother and also someone who likes designers occasionally , I can respect someone who doesn’t want to have kids and spend their money on Manolos.
The only time i ever cheered for carrie😂💪🏽👏🏽😝!
That red head lady that greeted Carrie at the door probably stole them. She looked sneaky. Lol
I hate someone who thinks about themselves superior just because they gained a family.....
My single a$$ was hurting watching these because it felt so real, the judgement some people could show towards the ones who decided...otherwisely.
One of my favorite episodes
I've experienced this kind of attitude by a married woman I used to hang out. She selfishly: I'm married full of obligations and you're single and carefree Some of them treat single women with anger and even try to force them to accept and tolerate their personal life decisions and choices underestimating others.
When Carrie met Karen. I don't really care about brands but even I, a 31 year old man have this pair of *B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L* black Kenneth Cole loafers that I adore which were not cheap. The Karen should have shown a higher sense of responsibility after asking her guests, especially single or childless folk to leave their shoes behind because "I have kids who lick the floor."
Karen: I have kids so I'm not going to pay for your lost expensive pair of shoes that ended up getting stolen due to my Facebook Mom beliefs. No offense but I don't think we should pay for your extravagant lifestyle.
Me: Cool, see you in court.
I cracked up. Lol
@@ranibabe2383 My Kenneth Cole's are expensive, it's not funny.
As someone who is a Pre-Law Undergrad I was thinking the same thing.
I agree. I would've sued the bitch into oblivion.
"Karen" is a misogynistic trope - let's all stop using it.
I literally skip this episode every time because of how frustrated I get over the injustice on Carries behalf 🙈
I literally don’t get why this mother couldn’t call her damn guest list and find the shoes. she just aggressively didn’t give a fuck and wasn’t shy to show it
Here she so proud of her kids and they're misbehaving in a very nice exclusive store not even paying attention or staying close to their mother. She must not be a good mother if they don't know how to behave in a store like that. And here she thinks because she's a mother she's above everyone else who don't have kids
I did think it was good of the friend to catch on to what she had done and to go forward and replace Carrie's shoes. She learned the lesson. Other women in her place just would have rolled their eyes and never spoken to Carrie again.
U take my shoes
U pay me or replace them
CARRIE DID THE RIGHT THING
MOM OR NO MOM
@ 1:30 "Houses", plural? ... girl, you and Chuck can afford the $485
I always loved her last outfit with those shoes
Yes so simple and normal yet it works and made an impact.
I love how she walks and ever so slighty jogs in them so easily. I would be on the floor 🤣
@@Rachael121 I'd have had a broken neck and taken out passing pedestrians and it wouldn't make you think "classy", that's for sure!
God I should do that to the chick that "borrow" a book and some other items from me
That condescending head tilt...started the awkwardness......🤨🥴
0:12
I always loved this chapter,
tbh I think the most powerful lesson here is not even parents vs single people, it’s domineering types vs push-overs. sometimes, you just gotta be “that bitch” and claim what you want.
I agree with what Carrie did 100% but those those were hella ugly 😂
💯
No
At least she would have saved the tax if she'd just paid Carrie back!
One of my favorite episodes!!!
If I’m asked to remove my new shoes at a party with strangers, I’d turned right around and leave. Also, I’d have kept the receipt to return the gift. Yes, I’m petty and work too hard for my shoes.
u then will not have friends if u r in asia, most modern family takes off their shoes in house, bring a bag, put the shoes in the bag and carry them with you , if ur shoes r fancy and the party has strangers
Or just hold on to them
That isnt petty that's smart
ew, who the fuck wears shoes in a house on carpet? gross!
It’s just shoes 👠
If one of my friends stole someone's shoes under my roof I would hunt them down myself.
The shoes could cost 15$ for all I care,they were hers.
Tatum stole her shoes, I’m convinced
Me too! She was envious when she saw that Carrie gets to splurge on a pair of designer shoes instead of kids / houses etc . She wanted them to make herself feel luxurious like her friend Carrie. Otherwise she wouldn’t have insulted Carrie about her lifestyle choices. She was such a total bitch
The host was talking about Billy Joel being thier nieghbor.She could afford to replace the shoes.She didnt want too.
So iconic 👏🏻
I don’t usually agree with Carrie in episodes as I find her really self-absorbed and judgemental but here she was in the right.
When I was single and childless I was often talked down to and patronised by people with kids. Once at a family gathering I was explaining how hectic my work was at that moment and how tired and run down I was feeling. My cousin’s wife laughed at me and said, “Awww sweetie, you don’t really know what tired is until you’ve had children! Your life is cupcakes compared to mine!” For the rest of the day she kept sending snide remarks at me, sniggering in my direction and asking if I needed a nap since I was ‘sooooooo tired’. She made me feel so small and stupid I was close to tears all day.
I’ve since had kids myself and yes while it is exhausting I would NEVER put down another person’s feelings and make out my life was so much better or harder simply because I’m a mother! Also, that cousin in law was a stay at home mum with a nanny AND a cleaner so I don’t think she had that much to do really!
As a woman who didn't get married until this year, at age 38, I know just what you mean. There's so much pressure, so many subtle jabs at single and/or motherless women. It's hard, and really works at shaming women and making them feel out of place.
Yikes, what a bitch. Sorry you had to listen to that, hon. Hopefully your cousin will get sick of her toxic ass and divorce her. See if she'll like that having rubbed in her face.
Very true that childless ppl don’t know what ‘tired’ means with kids, but exactly, no need to be a bitch abt it!
Your cousin's wife is jealous of you. She wants "out" from her life. Also she sounds psycho.
I love this episode. Not all the people Is for having children just to have them. Sometimes they think they have a more important life than singles' just because them have children.
Why didn't she get a shoe cover for all the guess or a bag and the guess can drag their shoes instead of just leaving it for some person to steal them.
You obviously didn't watch the full episode
On top of that, she made Carrie go barefoot in her apartment, don't think she was wearing panty-hose. How clean were her floors REALLY with 3 kids running around mucking the place up? Not having shoes on would be even more unhygienic for all concerned.
Back when an expensive designer shoe cost 480 dollars, today it’s more than double that
I am single and don't have children and there is no way I'm spending that much on shoes. It's all about personal preference and priorities.
She didn’t have to buy them, she could have just never spoken to Carrie again. I’m glad she did the right thing.
I commend Carrie from this episode. I mean, who steals someone's shoes (that you paid good money for) at a friend's house. Then Carrie's friend had the nerve to judge her on paying that much for a pair of shoes. And what makes it worse was that the hosts didn't even care about the situation.
So glad Carrie stood up for herself and didn’t let you. That “friend” could have went straight to hell.
"Im not going to pay for your extravagant lifestyle" then dont lose my g*ddamn shoes.
I'm so glad the show never betrayed Carrie and Samantha's childfree choice. Not even in those garbage fire movies.
If she is paying for Carries lifestyle,than Carrie is also paying for her lifestyle..She chose to have the baby,she chose to register in that expensive plCe
I’ll take Aggressively Childfree Fanfiction for $400 Alex.
I’m glad Carrie finally pushed back and made Kira replace her shoes!
I mean you still gotta give her credit for even buying them off of the registery, anyone else would have just blown her off anyway.
Guilty conscience? I assume they were no longer friends after she sent the shoes.
@@johnfd0210 idk if guilt would get me to buy $400 shoes🤣
Oh I've been in her "shoes" before I got married at 40. Maybe not about living above my means but in other belittling ways concerning not having any children.
Carrie has right to get her new pair!
I had a child later in life, my own choice and I can tell you im judged nearly as much now as I was when I was single, comments like "but you'll be in your 60s when they're a teen or does it bother you being an old mom" Some people just can't help themselves but thankfully not all people are like this! Always remember their opinion is not your problem....it's their's. Ive found that my response in my best patronising voice (which I don't mean at all btw) "I feel so bad for you though being so tied down so young but as long as you're ok with it" has worked quite well so far 😁
I was always jealous she could wear those thin little shoes. My pancake feet could never.
Kyra paid $485 to never hear from Carrie again.
This show was so great - how many of us have had to buy wedding gifts, baby shower gifts, and engagement parties for people when we were single? I swear, I probably have spent thousands of dollars over the past 40 years. lol
My sons dad accidently threw out my Jimmy Choo's at over 2100 bucks and I had only worn them 1 time. After that I never bought another pair of expensive heels.
You sure you want to keep the son's dad?
This ending wouldn’t happen irl.. that friendship wouldve just been kaput. Friends don’t know how to friend irl.
I’ll de damned if someone makes me take my designer shoes off and they come up missing. I’m not leaving until it’s rectified 😩
I love this episode and what do you call it Carrie looks so good here there's just some episodes she just looks so beautiful to me
Looooooooved Linda Evangelista in this as the shoe sales lady, especially when she told Tatum O'Neal to control her children to not touch the shoes, epic! Ironically in real life, Tatum O'Neal lost custody of her own kids to her ex, John McEnroe due to her drug addiction.
Holy crap, I didn't even recognize Linda with long hair. She looks fabulous
That's not Linda Evangilista😊
That's Greta Cavazonni, she is a model too 😊 she does look like Linda alot 😊
@@rebeccawalker268 that's not Linda 😊 that's Greta Cavazonni, she is a model too😊 she looks alot like Linda 😊
That's not Linda.
@@lottelarsen2918
Both women are listed as "sales girl" on the IMDB page.🤔 I never thought it was Linda, either, but, who knows?
Legally she owes her!!!
As Miranda pointed out to her
Kids…houses. Plural! So you can afford to pay for the shoes
Now they’re $600 + 🤣🤣❤️
I have many kids and I don't even ask people to take off shoes in my home......simple really. I also have no problem with how women without kids choose to sepnd their money. Their life so their choice.
Tatum ONeal was great in this