Mormon Bishop Resigns Over Pulpit - Full Story Coming Soon.
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- Mormon Bishop resigns over the pulpit (raw footage, audio leveled). Full Story Coming Soon.
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That takes courage! He stood up for what he believes against much pier pressure. I admire him for his courage and following his heart.
I can only imagine the amount of pressure an entire pier could inflict on the human body. Man that would hurt. Just a big old pier sitting on top of you. Brutal…
Pier pressure?
Chip, its peer pressure, unless you are under a bridge going nowhere, to the water.... A pier.
Auto correct messed up.. it APPEARS ; )
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@@Plethoralityum ..a big old pier, makes much more sense though than. ,a big old peer ..
2:00 I l am literally in tears.
“I’ve asked to be released. Not because of some sin, not because I’m hiding something.. not at all. There’s just a few things that I’ve been required to do that I personally cannot morally stand by. I can’t.”
Tears from this NOMO. This can be felt despite any religious affiliation. Very brave and will resonate with many. I’m glad they let him speak.
"There’s just a few things that I’ve been required to do that I personally cannot morally stand by. I can’t.” What were some things he was being required to do? I wonder. Would love to see updates and hear what these things were that he was required to do.
@@c.m.redhouse7667 I’m sure we will find out.
@@c.m.redhouse7667 As someone who's been interviewed by the bishop after being SA'd, the questions I was asked have been said to me have been said to many others
@@gracebe235 Well...if only Sue Johanson, sex educator (from Sex Talk show) was alive she would be appalled that you consider sex talk to be disgusting.
I don't know why I'm always drawn to these stories. I'm not even Mormon but wow the reflection of human nature is amazing.
Listen to the missionaries instead, not these stories. Most people in this channel have left the church, and once people leave their covenants, then they don't have the spirit anymore with them. They just have the spirit of contention. They start attacking the church. It is very sad....By the way, I don't think this bishop left the church. He just wanted to be released (this means he doesn't want to be the bishop anymore). Let me know if you want to hear the missionaries, and I will gladly send them to you. Thank you.
I left the church a couple years ago because I simply didn’t believe it anymore. I still love the members and much of the culture. I don’t “just have the spirit of contention “.
@hoteleandoconlafamilia I was born & raised Baptist. Father was an ordained Minister. I left the church a while ago. I'm just observing humans.
@@hoteleandoconlafamilia
Listening to ignorant missionaries and knowing that their expectation is that you must submit to the delusional nonsense they believe in is akin to being intellectually raped. It's disgusting.
@@hoteleandoconlafamilia“Once ppls leave the church, they don't have the spirit anymore with them. They just have the spirit of contention” ……who are you to judge? How about the ppls didn't leave the church? How about ppls who got kicked out by unrighteous leaders? (It happened to me!) No one has time to attack the church, ppls here are speaking from their own experiences. Unfortunate events happened to many ppls on the platform who used to be part of the church. We are here to hear their stories and show support, not to judge.
In my former ward in Portland Oregon, a bishop left the church in 2009 who I had been a counselor too. I Had become the bishop of that congregation in 2003 and served in that capacity until 2009. My successor left the church in 2011, and I left in 2012. We all left for our own reasons, but all were valid ones. None of us had been unfaithful, or wanted to live a sinful life. Independently of each other, we each simply realized it was not true. Since then, the church's influence has greatly diminished in Portland Oregon. I have no regrets.
He didn't lose God, he lost religion. And thats not a terrible place to be❤
When I realized how much religion is a societal and political manipulation in the name of God, I was relieved to leave. I found fellowship in other places to fill that void.
This took so much courage. I really admire him. I wish the best for him and his family in "life after Mormonism". I hope he finds the peace he seeks.
No courage, just selfishness. He put NO thought, to who would be hurt in this process, such as his congregation, family friends. In fact if you listen to the speech he only talks of HIMSELF! Does he thank others NO. The guy talks in nonsense. For example he starts by quoting Mormon verse and how he would never go against that verse and then in the end does what he said he never would do. And if he is actually leaving the Church, and doesn't believe in the Church why is he quoting Mormon verse?
@@Surfer5689-ez2yd Thanks for your opinion. You're certainly entitled to it, just as I am entitled to mine. I don't know his motives and I don't know that his intention was to hurt any one--do you? We'll agree to disagree on this and that's fine that we don't agree.
@@Surfer5689-ez2ydDo you think someone steps down and tells it to a large group of people that you care about and have broken bread with and be super vulnerable by being *selfish?*
We are enough.And we cannot live our life for others.He was being true to himself.As for his congregation,they are individuals who are able to take care of themselves!
@@Surfer5689-ez2ydi don't see this as selfish in any way. I think he's very well spoken and very brave. It clearly affects him emotionally and I'd much rather have my Bishop stand up and tell me what is happening rather than just wondering why they left.
Thru Christ "we are enough"..we don't have to prove our worth. The Mormon church demands so much ...Christ loves us for who we are not what we are.
Semantics. If what you are it’s a child molesting murderer, I think it DOES matter “what” you are. He definitely will judge you accordingly. He won’t love you for being that.
Don't you think we need to change? I always feel less and need to improve....
Improving is good, but allowing Christ to work in us is what he wants, not us trying to improve ourselves. All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23). Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ (Philippians 1:6). When we understand the grace of God, we have a change of heart and attitude. :)@@robertsaladino
We are saved by grace not by "works"..its biblical not what you are taught in the LDS church. You are made to feel shame if you don't accept callings..you won't receive "blessings"..its all lies..smoke and mirrors. This man should not have to apologize in any way for his service and feelings. Shame on those who judge him.
I don’t disagree with you that we are saved by grace after all we can do. Period. I get it. All I’m saying is that we will be judged for things we have done. So if you are a murderer, Jesus doesn’t have to love you for that. He will forgive whom he chooses to forgive. All will be saved by grace but not all will dwell with him for eternity. That is what hell is for, or outer darkness…..whatever you call it, it will not be a pleasant place.
I’m surprised they didn’t escort him off the podium! Poor guy. I feel for him. Very brave! 👏🏽👏🏽
That was my thought!
I thought that too , no one interrupted him
He was presiding. He gets the last words.
Why would they escort him off the podium? I didn't hear anything that would warrant him to be escorted off. I've heard some ridiculous stuff from podiums in my life.
Why would they. This was not a surprise to leadership. He had already asked to be released and I'm sure he told them why. It was actually smart to just let this play out. It would have been worse to try and silence him and his story would have come out anyway.
Looking forward to hearing this gentleman’s story. Thank you Mormon Stories. This is a brave man 🙏🏼
"We are not loved for what we do or what we are going to do. We are loved for who we are."
Great man, he turned his brain on and listened to his conscience not the cult.
“Live so that when your children think of fairness, caring, and integrity, they think of you.”
Good for this man who stands up for what is right. ❤❤❤
What courage, strength and grace. Bless this man and his heart and all our hearts that are healing and remembering what is whole and True 💜✨️🙏
I left the church a little over a year ago after 50 years. All the inner turmoil is now gone. I feel bad for those who still struggle with this religion
A short post can be found if you Google "Mississippi Ward Bishop Resigns from the Pulpit in Sacrament Meeting."
What kind of inner turmoil was it a feeling each week of not wanting to be there? Because I got that and alas it got the better of me and I haven’t been out now for about a year I’ve been attending a little baptist church around the corner from where I live.
Left 3 yrs ago after 50 years. I feel the same. Xo
Great god us mercifyl and he jas many dwelungs or paradise he wil put us where we can or are fit for. He does not force us. Or impose things that we can not or not willing to carry on.
The beauty of free agency.....I wish you all the happiness.
He did not resign from church membership here, he asked to be released and resigned from the calling of Bishop. Those are two different things. Best wishes. I understand some of this. I am active in the church, but came home early from my mission 25 years ago, dealing with mental illness, anxiety and depression. It was right for me at that time.
so glad he got posted here. i am in awe of his strength. he is someone i am and have been so proud of throughout all this. excited you're having him on
HELL YEAH! Balls of Steel on this guy, good luck to you and yours. It's hard at first, but everything after leaving the church only gets better and better.
Now, HERE is a decent man !
Title says "full story coming soon" -- Until then, it's easy to see that he did not make this decision lightly. He seems like a caring person and was asked to do/say things that he could not support.
I'm still waiting to know what is it that he was asked to do or say. If it about his support for women to receive the Priesthood, sorry I'm not going with you! I want to know.
You are a great man. GOD BLESS YOU, SIR.
Bravery and sincerity. Utmost respect to this man.
I admire this man for choosing to go out on his own terms and not be forced out. Most people want people to leave quietly and just fade away...I don't know if he's left the church entirely or just his calling, but I hope he and his family find peace. It's hard to have your own back when you've always been taught to give away that authority.
Said, get rid of this silly shirt.
😮😢So sad, extremely brave! Heavenly Father knows all! ❤❤
Such a courageous and brave thing to do. I look forward to hearing more of his story.
Hope to see more good men standing up and being real.
You never need to be redeemed. You are enough as you are. Just as you are. Always.
Not to LDS people. They see 3 levels in heaven and only the most pious enter the top tier. They want to be together in death so they make up rules and the LDS prez announ😢ces them.
I know! That really got me. Beautiful.
So so brave. Thank you!! Most of us are too scared to stand up to the establishment
And for good reason. I have stood up to my ward about some very unethical behavior and now I'm being formally shunned.
I don’t know the backstory… but it sounds like he’s demonstrating true, courageous unconditional love for all of God’s children.
Google "Mississippi Ward Bishop Resigns from the Pulpit in Sacrament Meeting."
When o resined frolm the Mormon Church my letter said : I cannot in all conscious before God be apart of your vjurch.
Wow, the tears are real and not the fake and forced tears at general conference.
I wish that he shared what was asked of him. It seems like something to with justice and youth. I can only assume he was asked to cover up something.
Yes a lot of questions.. but why does he want a person who would do a better job. Honesty i respect him, and would respect him more to not resign but fight back as that better person. Too many good people resign falling short of being great fighters back against the system.
I want to stress, I do believe he is brave. But standing up to the point of being excommunicated is braver, and others have done it. Simply getting replaced by another sheep doesn't make the herd better. A sheep becoming the shepherd is what the herd needs. But I get it, the cost of that is great and one does need to think of loved ones.
Resigning is rebelling.
as a faithful lds member i respect this man so much for being honest and true to himself.
Thanks for sharing this. Life is not easy. Love is. Let us unite in love for Christ and each other. I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Not going anywhere but I do love and feel the great pain that this man is in. He was brave, courageous and true to himself. I want nothing but happiness for him and his family and for us all.
This is so healing for me, thank you for speaking to the youth
Mormonism is not what Jesus intended. Jesus loves you and communes with you because you love Him, not by what you do.
I could hear him perfectly clear in my car. I cannot wait to send this out to all of my believing family members.
I'm sure they will appreciate it just as much as if they sent you talks by bishops they agree with.
Right?
Unfortunately it's difficult to reason with those whose critical thinking skills have been hijacked by a cult. You can lead a horse to water...
I would wait. They wont care because the church sets them up in advance with reasons why people leave that arent the churches fault like sin, mental health, lack of faith, talking bad about a church leader, not enough study, etc. This wont affect them. And he was vauge. If he comes out and says, they asked me to cover up someone confessing sexual sin and I could not do it, then it may be impactful.
@@devonmarr9872 I sent it out and they really appreciated how loving he was while speaking.
I don’t care if someone chooses to leave the church. I am a follower of Christ and no one else. I don’t care if a stake president leaves. My testimony isn’t in him. The savior won’t love him any less because of his choice to leave. He died for all of us. I have siblings that have left, this guy to me is no more than a man. He has faults just like the rest of us. People leave the church every week. What is so different about this!
You guys that get so excited over bishops quitting think this is such a big deal. It’s not. He will be fine and continue to live his life with his family.
AMEN Brother - Not sure where you are but I WISH someone would have given me this talk in church back in 1982!!! left in 89 and have never been happier! Love this - cannot wait to hear his story.
Such brave soul. Yes.Christ loves us unconditionally.There is too much expected onLDS .people.Take Christ into your heart .This Bishop will feel free!There will be times he will remember what he was doing all those years. His family will be grateful also.
Sending you love and light I know God is with
You and within you as you go on your soul journey ❤❤❤❤❤
Brother Nick Jones, doing what he did, knowing how many people might feel hurt along the way, took more courage than one might ever know nor comprehend! Sooooo much courage! Only a coward chooses to stay silent and support things that are just not right and only the brave speak out against it and pulls away. And to do it publicly requires more truth to one self and to one's pairs than most man would ever have the courage to do! To quote scripture one believes in, while refusing to support what is unrighteous, what brings away from self dignity and from God, is right. And in choosing the right, he honored himself, his family and his Heavenly Father! A man/a person like that, I respect and support!!!
Watching this, I can't help but think of what a brave and honest man he is! Sir, if you ever see this, much love to you and ✌️
Thank you for CAPTIONing. Also thank you for believing abuse and horrific happenings. My BFF was kicked out of temple because she believed in gay marriage and spoke up. She missed her son's wedding because of it. Now she a real licensed counselor for LDS folks who were abused by church. Yeah you
I can't wait to hear his story. The amount of bravery it takes to stand up at the pulpit and say "I'm done" to family and friends you've know for years takes an extreme amount of courage. Thank you for sharing this video Mormon Stories ❤ yall are the mvps of giving those of us brave enought to speak a way to do so, and a way to reach out to those who have struggled in similar ways.
I feel for this guy and wish some of my family understood this and got out.
May God bless him. Don’t loose faith in Yeshua. I left a year ago and was not easy. I have found comfort in the Messianic Jewish movement. When I thought I was going to fall into the abyss, God was there for me in a way I had never imagined possible.
Thank you to this bishop and to all who have considered being this committed to truth. Utah
Wow. Can’t wait for this interview. You can hear at least one woman say “oh my gosh”
I think it unwise to burn bridges. Keep your friends, treasure them and acknowledge to yourself that there are differences but, hey, that's the world.
I stopped attending the church in January 2002. I did nothing to offend any of my Mormon friends but found, sadly, that after all those decades of faithful church membership, I only really had one friend in the church. He has been with me all these years. I am fairly smart and, for reasons entirely related to himself, my stake president decided that I, a former bishop, was a danger to church members. He held a church court (now renamed to be more politically correct but still the same). I had to appear in front of the stake presidency plus high council, with the stake clerk taking minutes. One high counsellor was appointed to defend me (no prior contact) another to oppose. Naturally the process was resolved as per the stake president's wishes and I was excommunicated.
As the meeting closed, I stood up and said that I did not accept this decision and that it would be reversed. I had already contacted Australia's Privacy Commission. Since the USA has weaker privacy laws than Australia, I can object to any document with personal details being sent to the USA. The next morning the Stake President was contacted by the Privacy Commission and informed that he was unable to send the excommunication documents to the USA, a necessary final step for former bishops. Two weeks he called me into his office, told me that he had changed his mind, and tore up the excommunication in front of me. I have always been a member in good standing from that moment on and naturally, have never done anything to offend or challenge any church member.
This has stood me well because there is now a much less narrow-minded leadership in the church here. The leadership team is focused on doing good work, not because it is a commandment but because it is in their nature. My ex wife is mentally ill and I have followed how much more sustained and focused their care is on her, a difficult person at the best of times.
A few months ago I discovered that I had grade 5 prostate cancer (the most agressive) and that it had been lurking in my body for 4+ years. The lack of earlier discovery was due to doctor negligence in my annual checkups. As an immigrant who lives alone, I need all the help and support I can get. One thing I did was ask, via my only friend, if the church would pray for me. This they did and the next Fast Sunday I went there and thanked them publicly in the Fast and Testimony Meeting. It was the first time I had spoken in church for 22 years. I was suicidal at the time and had been for months following my diagnosis, so there were copious tears. It was purging to be able to share my grief with a community I had loved so deeply and still do love.
I have lived a long life and learned that there is only one universal sin on earth, and it is lovelessness. Physical self-exploration is never a sin. Loving greetings from Germany.
I have been deconstructing my faith for over a year now. This has been an incredibly difficult, and lonely journey. I was always one who thought that I was strong enough to keep no matter what. That was not true, I fight for truth, and I did not find it in the church.
Good for him. It does take a lot of courage to stand up for what you believe when you are in this type of position. It is important for him to speak his truth so there isn’t speculation and gossip about what great sin he may have committed. When I was a Mormon, our 2nd counsellor left the church and there was so much speculation and gossip about what HE did - like he had committed some great sin and had been ex-communicated when in fact it was a faith crisis due to the unexpected death of the 2nd of his 3 children.
Members LOVE to gossip.
He says NO reason at all why he resigned. Not sure what you watched. All it created was speculation.
@@Surfer5689-ez2yd He made it clear it wasn’t sin based. In his other video, it appears to be a faith issue re polygamy although he also mentions being abused at camp. I guess we’ll wait for the follow up.
Brave man. I hope he’s okay
What a courageous thing to do!! I wish I had would've heard that message when I was young and had the same courage. People not indoctrinated don't realize how difficult it is to leave, and to do it from the pulpit takes massive bravery. Thank you for following your conscience. You're a great example for us. Happiness to you and your family.
Nothing wrong with stepping down from a calling. Bishop is a tough calling. I hope he’s feeling better with whatever issues he needs to sort out.
He was asked to step down. I’m glad he just didn’t go along with things. Seems like he chose the right.
@@kristinesharp6286 No, he said he resigned.
@@jaredmcomber I just rewatched. “I have asked to be released”. I heard that as I have been asked to be released. I was reading the subtitles and listening at the same time and I got that part wrong. I apologize. Yes he is the one who asked to be released. You are correct.
@@kristinesharp6286 No harm done. There was actually a 3 hour interview where he details all of it. Very fascinating.
@@jaredmcomber thank you.
Sends shivers down my spine.
I watched most of the full interview. I took from that he had left the church. Listening to this it sounds as if he was just stepping down from the bishopric. Praying this man finds his way to the God of the Bible. I grew up in the Mormon cult and experienced most of what he shared in the full interview. Praying he comes to the understanding that it truly isn’t religion but a relationship with the living God.
Thank you for speaking your truth. Thank you for loving Christ so much you put religion aside. For it is my experience both do not belong together.
Very courageous.
Waiting patiently for this amazing brave mormon stories episode🙏🏻❤️❤️... episodes im sure😉
Happening the same week the Salt Lake Tribune published an interview with Matt Martinich who is quoted as saying “Contrary to what you hear on social media the church is not falling apart.”
but this Bishop is from a Mississippi Ward
😂😂😂
How sad. I was raised as a JW and left that cult as soon as I was no longer a minor. Glad this man is getting himself and his family out of the Mormon cult.
Me too I left the JWs at age 16 still a minor but no longer living at home I had some horrible dealings with some of those people which helped to drive me out.
Congratulations to both of you. I am glad that the JWs are shrinking in Germany, my home country. They ring my door less and less often, only twice since COVID.
This was so unbelievably brave and just amazing to watch, but I am legitimately surprised no one tried to escort him off the stand… that has been done. A kid coming out as gay over the pulpit was escorted off and scolded for it. And this dude literally resigned as bishop AND the church over the pulpit!
I wish that my resignation from the church was met with so much love and compassion. To this day, I’m still loosing friends.
a child coming out as gay vs a white man acting in his authority.
i'm not saying it's fair, just that it's easy to see the difference.
Wheres the full episode
Qué hombre tan valiente! Espero que él y su familia puedan permanecer unidos tras esta experiencia tan difícil.
I was a young mom in the 80s when l joined and baptized in the Mormon church. Paid tithes. I was very active. When the bishop told my husband we were bad bc we needed to pay more money to the church. What? We barely made ends meet was was very proud we paid 100 percent if our tithes.
Then l discovered the garments.
Then l discovered tge profit was ranked in order of 12 men....much more.
After 20 months my family walked away. Completely. Too much weird crap.
I was conned and things held back prior to me joining.
John 14:26-27
26. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
27. Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
May the Spirit of Remembrance comfort you and your family. Amen.
Good for you, sir. Gets a hellava lot better and easier.
“….free your mind, your ads will follow” - Junior (Platoon)
I can't really hear him. It's really noisy. Can anyone fill me in. Is he resigning from just a position as a Bishop or from both that and his membership in the L.D.S. Church? And what are h I s reasons.?
He resigned from the bishopric and the church because he caught a known pedophile, contacted the law offices as per the training they were given and was told to ignore it. So he did the right thing and called the cops. The church would’ve exed him anyway.
The one rare occasion were the mike wasn't cut off on the spot.
Typically, the bishop is the person that shuts off the mic. So when the person that is responsible for shutting off the mic is speaking then the stake high councilor would have to intervene.
@@evilpog1693 Exactly. The Stake President wasn't there, so he got to speak freely.
People who post things online then act like they didnt want attention... lol
@mormonstoriespodcast please ask him what things he was asked to do that he could not morally stand by. I wish one of my bishops would have done this.
But wait, I heard he just resigned from his calling as bishop, not from the church right? Regardless, that takes a lot of courage. 👏🏼
I thought that but he as brought another 2 videos out. One saying what are we as a family going to do with our extra day of the week now
The pat on the back ar the end was so kind
There is so much deceiving that goes on in the Mormon church, who know what the real reason was for leaving, but God Bless him, because he belonged to a church who believes in a false God that cannot save you.
Looking forward to hearing the full story. This was so brave of him. I wonder how many people got their first Crack in their shelf after this.
He stepped down, but not entirely sure he left the LDS church? My audio wasn't greate. Either way, this is a start. God bless him.
Hook, line, and sinker!
Way to go John & team for the relentless work you do!
See you all at 6/7.🎉
So they ran off another good person. Unbelievable.
Yet totally believable! It would seem that most Christian sects do the same...
I sure hope they all hear him.
And that scripture is why we must acknowledge that the brethren are fallable. They suppose they have all the power and do not need to include us in their decisions. Even the curtesy of transparency. Investing our tithing in the market, heavily on weapons manufacturing that end ups destroying and destabilizing lives and peace around the world is not what christ's church is supposed to be engaged in.
they will owe transparency as the leadership.
Iam really sorry but iam struggling to hear what is being said. I am sorry he is going through a difficult time at the moment I really feel for him.
I turned on the closed captions. It did a good job 💫
Perhaps the one good Bishop they had, and they destroyed him. It’s so sad.
Those with antisocial personalities are best able to climb the ladder within large organizations. Those with a highly developed conscience leave. Those in the middle continue to serve the organization, idolizing it, unless and until their own conscience provokes them to leave too.
This is one of the few patterns that's 100% predictable across all human societies.
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His faith made him quit the big billionaire church 😂❤,good on you 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😎,it took balls to do so ❤
Will you please add subtitles or a written transcript in the description? I'm having trouble understanding him on my device, and what he's saying I am certain is massively important. I am Mormon and am considering resigning so am binge watching all these videos and this one I especially want to hear, but his microphone is muffled and the background noise is causing my device to not transmit clearly. So I'd be most grateful if you'd please add subtitles or a written transcript. Please. Please. Thanks 😊
We understand you bishop is good you step down stay at peace and you and your family will be bless not worries.
Can he give a talk at conference????
wow, he quoted Hemmingway, this is heavy...
Sending our best wishes to this Bishop and family who felt overburdened and disillusioned. May he find peace and contentment. We believe in Free Agency. We respect his choice. My husband was a Bishop for nearly 8 years. It's important to accept that no humans are perfect. No church leaders are perfect. We serve and try the best to support, forgive, strengthen each other along the way and to bear each other burdens in the Ward. We continue to believe in the Gospel of Jesus Christ and be active in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints despite all its warts.
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I'm proud for him, but also that the congregation didnt call in the ministry of truth to silence him
Where is his mormon stories podcast?? I can’t find it
ruclips.net/user/livejuI-FVmU4OU?si=8kXKi8hpSCUgoxEe
@@mormonstories thank you!!🥰
The fact that RUclips separates the LIVE videos always confuses me.
I want to give him the biggest hug
I can see the courage in it because I’ve been Mormon for 48 years…But honestly I don’t understand it. Just walk away. Just stop going. I get it’s your ward “family” and people you love but honestly most of the people listening do not care what you think and will just go forward. Just walk away and let believe what they want
A general comment. It just occurred to me that there are similarities between LDS and scientology that should be explored. Salient is the fact that there is a lot of VERY weird secret stuff that is only revealed after you are highly invested . And, perversely, this weirdness further locks you in…. As opposed to repelling you, as it would if you were exposed to it in the beginning
I think this is hilarious. I have actually been learning about Scientology. We are nothing like they are. You need to look at them more. I was pretty surprised by their behavior and was really greatful that we can still stay connected to our families if some one decides to leave. We don’t go around threatening your lively hood. We don’t put away our leaders wife for years and wonder where she is. Oh man, they are nothing like us
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Trisha. Thanks for your thoughts
I understand there are many important differences between LDS and Scientology
The particular comparison i was makings is the fact that both have certain elements that strike me as bizarre… in the Case of lds i am referring to things like the secret temple ceremonies, and the baptizing of dead people
I agree that lds does not formally shun people…. Although, if you are labelled as an apostate, you become a second class citizen who then becomes a person that is merely tolerated … the constant moral judgement is inescapable and at a minimum rather unpleasant
I can’t imagine how hard that job must be. At least pastors, priests, and other bishops from other institutions have some type of ecclesiastical degree.
Your dentist down the street can be called to be Bishop… I just can’t imagine how hard on a person mentally this is..
And seems like they’re laying it on the young men with young families that suffer with Dad not being around!
@@sherburck I mean fits perfectly with the nuclear family they like to see!
Dad’s away so mom has to stay at home with the kids! When I went to meetings there were men in the first class that just shit on daycares and families that needed to utilize them. Because you can support a family on one income easily these days, right? 🙄
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When will the full story be pinned?
I am so looking forward to hearing this gentleman’s Mormon story. He has so much support waiting for him on the other side.
What a good good man!
What a good guy.