Narcissists, Frauds & Enablers: The Death of Women's Sports | Riley Gaines | EP 356
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- Опубликовано: 3 июн 2024
- Ep. 356
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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and twelve-time All-American female swimmer Riley Gaines discuss the insemination of men into women's spaces. Gaines breaks down the breach in security that women face when forced to share vulnerable spaces with biological men, the purpose of athletic achievement, why segregation of the sexes has genuine merit, and what exactly went down at San Francisco State University.
Riley Gaines is an American athlete and female rights activist. Gaines is a graduate from the University of Kentucky, where she was a twelve-time All-American swimmer. She competed and tied with trans-identifying swimmer Lia Thomas at their NCAA championships and was unfairly sidelined from the awards ceremony. She has spoken to numerous teammates and administrators who do not think this attack on female sports is fair, and more importantly, do not feel this invasion by men into female spaces is remotely safe. Gaines has become an outspoken female rights activist, advocating for the protection of women's spaces, sports, and achievements, and has proven herself unshakable even when faced with a dangerous mob.
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(0:00) Coming up
(1:24) Intro
(2:25) Riley’s credibility as an athlete
(7:28) Obsessive dedication and unmatched discipline
(11:49) Why ambition is not selfish
(14:25) Grace in defeat
(16:09) Lessons only sport can teach you
(19:35 The necessary attributes of a team captain
(21:47) Alignment of interest despite individual goals
(23:23) Navigating leadership on an all female team
(29:01) Masculine versus feminine mindset in sports
(30:36) Why sports don’t have radical equality
(34:09) The purpose of high level competition
(35:23) Should any domains be sex segregated?
(42:33) What you give up for athletic success
(48:28) Men in women’s sports
(53:22) Riley’s first competition against Lea Thomas
(1:04:56) The psychology of knowing you won’t win even when you win
(1:08:13) Derealization, and those who Lea Thomas has displaced
(1:12:49) Lea Thomas is a narcissist
(1:21:22) Invading the locker room, the failure of administrators
(1:30:34) SFSU: the whole story of the viral incident
(1:48:26) Riley Gaines will not back down
(1:52:19) We must advocate for change
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Hard to believe Riley is only 22 years old. Her maturity and wisdom are way beyond her years.
Fantastic interview!
Poor her-- having to get public psychoanalysis online at 4 AM!
I'm sure she's an extremely smart young lady but you really don't have to be a genius to destroy the Looney tunes position of the left
What makes the idea of somebody being born with a brain of a different gender in their body crazy is the fact that people believe this is a physical reality with no physical evidence. But what makes it extremely even more Looney tunes is a fact not only is there no physical criteria for being transgender there's not even a philosophical criteria.
The only criteria for example for being a transgender woman is saying you are which means absolutely nothing because again there's no criteria for it physical or philosophically which makes the idea of being a transgender woman no more coherent than being ldbkbchknvv.
Kind of telling that we're impressed by someone being mature at 22 when that would have been the expectation a few decades ago.
@@sabishiihito
That’s an excellent point!
My defense is that even I’ve become conditioned by the idiocy from people like 37 year old Megan Rapinoe and the overwhelming pop media to subconsciously lower my standard of excellence.
But remember, both Riley and Megan invested their lives in pursuit of excellence. 22 year old Riley is a damn sight wiser than Megan. That’s also telling.
Riley is a straight, normal female, while Megan is a radical leftist lesbian.
That’s the society we’re in today.
You point is well taken!
She's a looooooser, 0 medals, all she's got left is hate
She's only 22 and yet she's so mature and poised. God bless her.
That discipline is what makes her so mature.❤
You can't say the same thing for the people who disagree with her.
@@mokuba76
You Compare Riley Gaines To a Crazed Woke Red Guard 🇨🇳 Mob?
@@mokuba76 I imagine you are referring to the protesters who physically and verbally attacked her at SFSU. Sane people would describe their behaviour as "unhinged," but, again, I'm talking only about sane people here.
@mokuba76 Just the opposite - the truth of the matter is:
"You absolutely CANNOT say the same thing for the people who disagree with her."
As Riley and JBP so clearly established in the interview, sports orgs and Univ administrators perpetrating this travesty have behaved in the most devious and cowardly ways.
I'm a young female athlete for running and soccer and i have watched as a highschool aged male won state over a senior girl. He ran across the finish line without even breathing hard. Its horrible to know that in the fear of being called transphobic or a horrible person is allowing these men to affect our sports. This needs to be stopped. I hope to be as strong as Riley Gaines
We should allow a woman (like Colleen Balinger) to compete in a drag show and win. How angry they would all be...
Go get em!!!
Well, you're part way there to figuring out the problem.
You are correct about some of the biology - that top athletic performance is usually male dominated. That's the dumb feminist lie you're arguing against.
The part that you're missing is the dumb conservative lie. The way the biology of sex works is a little more complicated than putting everyone in a man or woman category.
It turns out, there's all kinds of diversity when it comes to sex. It's more of a spectrum, and it's a little arbitrary where to decide to draw the line in many cases.
The punchline being, when you decided to divide up society into men's sports and women's sports, and you drew that arbitrary line on that spectrum of sex, what you did is pretty much guarantee that the women closest to the line were the ones that were going to have advantages in that sport.
Which is how it works in real life.
Yet another expose of sexism! This time sexism from both conservatives AND feminists!
The better question is how to handle sports scholarships, which is why the question about who qualifies for women's sports is relevant.
Personally, I think there's way too much emphasis on performance, and not nearly enough emphasis on discipline. If a highschooler has an outstanding fitness routine, but they're not particularly good at any one sport, I think that person should be getting the scholarship. And, someone who's uber talented, wins every event, but doesn't train very hard, that person should not be eligible for scholarship.
We shouldn't be trying to give scholarships to potential pro athletes, we should be trying to give scholarships to potential personal trainers and physical educators. That means how you play the game is the most important part.
Which furthers my analysis of the problem. Stop trying to divide people by sex or race! It just creates way too many issues, and the people trying to do it never really think it through.
@@ywtcc yeah that will exactly kills women sports we never watch. dont devide it. let trans women and men compete eachother. i bet leah thomas will lead the mob who wants women sports back.
@@omerfidan892 My point is anyone that puts in the work should be eligible for the scholarship.
For most amateur competitions, the winning isn't why people are involved.
I think you're being really immature, by focusing so much on who's winning meaningless amateur athletics competitions. It's clearly the practice and preparation that's the important part.
She’s so well spoken. It’s hard to believe she’s only 23.
No it’s normal at 23
We have just been lowering a lot our expectations over the past 30 years given the exponential fall of education dahaha
23 is an adult, though. Growing up and critical thinking should be encouraged. There are too many baby adults in the world now.
This is how you are supposed to behave and speak when you arent an entitled twat and your parents raised you correctly.
Pics or it didn't happen 😂
she looks 40
Thank you Riley for having the integrity and guts to speak up. Women across the world are with you
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...and so are the real men.
Amazing young woman!
My God. !! Wtf is going on??? What is wrong with San Francisco State?
Good men are with you, too!
If women really were with her they'd all stand together against this madness
This is an elite level human being. Both a phenom of an athlete, but also a woman of ridiculously high character.
She's not gonna date you, guy. Slow down.
@@southboundguitar…he’s just speaking facts
100 %
@@victoriabryant3078 You could have made a joke but you didn’t, because you’re a woman.
@@southboundguitar right?!?! He suuure wooed her. 🙄
This woman is an absolute champion. Thanks for being vulnerable and sharing the story.
That we are having this discussion at all to me is so sad.
That she has to fight and argue to prove an obvious point is beyond me😢
Be strong Riley!!
So true, years ago these types of conversations wouldn’t even be considered. And nowadays it seems like it’s all that we talk about
The "trans" scores should be completely erased from official records. And many college administrators should be summarily fired. Go Riley.
Fired, hell! Those college administrators should be PROSECUTED! And in a true America they would be!
Absolutely agree - Female athletes have been betrayed!
I agree. These scores have corrupted women’s sports
-_- Trans women win fair and square
@@sharktenko267 are you joking here?
The idea is patently ridiculous if you’re being serious
Men ‘competing’ against women is an abomination
There is no such thing as a trans-woman in reality
There are men who claim to be women who in some cases chop parts of themselves off and swallow some chemicals to further their delusion
End of story
For my daughter’s future and the entire next generation in America, I am so glad there are intelligent, strong, morally upright and SANE individuals like Riley Gaines and Jordan Peterson out there in the public discourse
Good thing you don't have a son, because no one would care about HIS future. Only female issues matter
In todays world telling the truth is considered bravery.. scary
Man who cares. Why are you guys obsessed with trans people
@@danieijohnson3214 1984… you know
@@danieijohnson3214 Depending upon the viewer, as Riley explained the students who mobbed and threatened her over lies were rewarded for being brave. Just like it was brave to mob Jews in 1930's Germany.
Riley is so impressive . She’s speaks so well and has a clear rational mindset . I mean this woman is a champion ! She is very Inspiring and I say that as a 52 year old man . I can honestly say that I’m proud of her .
Also intelligent and beautiful
This poor young lady. She is smart, levelheaded and obviously dedicated to her sport and also to fairness. No one should have to go through this whole journey of insanity.
Riley Gaines is a young woman who was thrust into the fight for women's rights. She is handling herself so bravely and gracefully.
She thrust herself into it, twisting the situation to suit her agenda
Riley Gaines is a champion in many respects. This young woman gives me and all of us the drive to take part and make the world a better place.
@@mdaddy775 i wholeheartedly disagree.
@@mikethomas116 Is she making Lia's world a better place?
@@lovelykali That's fine, I'm sure you mean well but Peterson, Daily Wire and company offer a truly warped and unhelpful perspective
Thank you Riley for speaking out and standing up for women. We are 100% behind you
Doubt
What is wrong with her face
As a Man, i am 100% behind her and I support her and all Women.
Me too, behind a big steel door, watching her do the fighting while I practice my keyboard warrior skills.
@@thatfunnykekguy6377 i want be behind her too.
It is amazing how retarded our society has become that we have to seriously discuss this. Men who insist on going into women's changerooms should be arrested and charged. Men who attempt to compete in women's sports should be summarily booted out of the competition and removed by force if necessary.
I agree! As hard as this is for me to say this, gay marriage shouldn’t have been allowed. However, people shouldn’t be allowed to identify as both male and female. Biological gender should only be the way you identify.
As a Bi dude and former lgbt community member, I know the irrational fury from these people. They aren’t doing anything with their lives, so they co-opt this cause. Since it’s literally the only thing that brings meaning to their lives they attack with a fury that does feel like they could kill you. Riley, God bless you.
It's because they have wrapped thier entire identity, personality and worth around thier sexuality and sexual preferences...
They're beholden to the lies and false reality they have invested everything that is THEM into. So when someone attempts to tell the truth and breaks thier world views and essentially themselves into millions of pieces it leads them to believe the only option to stop that is to viciously attack anyone who speaks out or disagrees. Anyone willing to not be intimidated MUST BE SILENCED because if not then the reality is gonna shatter these people.
It's so unhealthy. Regular people and regular gay individuals do not conflate thier sexuality preference with who they are and what gives them any worth. Normal people identity and personality doesn't revolve around thier genders or preferences. It revolves around thier interests, likes, dislikes, family, hobbies, ect.... but when someone makes thier entire existence based on the fact they believe they are "trans" and it relies on everyone else in the world agreeing to partake in that delusion when the world DOESN'T CARE ABOUT ANYONE AND SURELY ISN'T GONNA BEND OVER BACKWARDS TO ANYONE. The fact these people are relying on everyone else forcibly agreeing they are the opposite gender and accepting them that way. Instead of them just accepting Themselves for who they are! Cause if they truly did they wouldn't be bothered by those who refuse to accept them 🤷. Truth is they don't accept thier own delusion which is why they rely on everyone else's confirmations and acceptance
Can you explain your comment further, sorry I'm not getting what you are saying, but find it interesting. When you say "irrational fury from "these people," who exactly do you mean? Who isn't doing anything with their lives? Who is attacking who? thanks
@b.a.4947 Ok you cant be Bi and say you arent an LGBTQ member. You are, you just arent a RADICAL one who does these things. And we thank you for that. It important to note that not every LGBTQ member is like the radical left.
@@tellurye I think there's a growing contingent of people who have non-hetero sexualities coming forward and disavowing the LGBTQ. Just because a person possesses a non-hetero sexuality does not make them one with the movement. The sexualities existed long before the movement ever did and it stands to reason that there are people who should fall under that umbrella who feel disaffected, and in this person's case, disgusted at the behaviour the LGBTQ expresses so they feel that the movement does not represent them.
@@tellurye these days many who qualify as LGBTQ opt out of identifying with the group and the ideologies they are pushing. You're allowed not to join a "club" when their beliefs don't align with your own.
She is so poised and good at public speaking for a 22 year old. Inspiration to everyone really, not just aspiring atheletes. 👍
I would like to see her debate anyone in the Biden Administration!
That's amazing
@@lisawhitley1518 that would be like Aristotle trying talking to a slug
That is a PERFECT statement… I couldn’t speak like that at 22.. I’d just tell people to “fuck off” and walk away lol. This woman is incredible.
@@DevilishBeaver0 That analogy is amazing
She’s 22 and has a level of accountability, insight and self-reflection, and compassion that I couldn’t have even dreamed of before my 30s. The future really does hold so much hope. Go girl! 💜
For sure. Sometimes I despair for the future, but then I come across a young person like this and feel a little better.
She’ll be talked about in history books one day
@@adrianharry6812 absolutely!
She is a blessing of a young woman… wish her best of luck and hope she becomes some game changes
Athlete mindset.
Riley’s courage is not only inspiring, it’s iconic. She chose to stand for what is right regardless of personal cost. Our society needs more heroes like her. The Great Controversy between good and evil is raging all around us and Riley’s situation is a clear proof of this. I admire her for taking a stand for what is just and right regardless of consequences. This journey will not be easy, but in the end it will be WORTH it. Riley’s influence is contagious. Heaven applauds such decisions. Remain strong until the end, Riley! You are not along, I’ll pray for you every day.
I love how Riley is making Jordan Peterson pause and think. She actually pulled stuff out of his brain. I would 'guess' he really enjoyed this convo. I totally did. Usually it's take take take form Jordan Peterson's mind but this one was different. Riley, those are hard questions - you took them and answered them like a BOSS! Go girl!
Because he is a clinician. He l.i.s.t.e.n.s with purpose
I’m a man but I am so impressed by and proud of this woman and will always support her in any way i can, she is a true champion
100% same
Woman of the year 2023! Riley should be celebrated and recognized for her strength and courage. She is dedicated, resilient and a force to be reckon with…saving women’s sports. Thank you Riley! We support you.
She def should of gotten the international womens day award gave to her
Didn't Biden present that to a 'Man'...another slap in the face!!!!!!
She can't be the Woman of the Year. The current trend is to choose an individual born a man for Woman of the Year.☹️
I hope we get to see her get recognized for all the hard work she is doing. She is saving women’s sports.
@@podunkcitizen2562 👏
These are crazy times we find ourselves in. Riley is brave and she's right. Thanks for this Jordan. Such a great interviewer!
Great Scott, society has become unsustainable. Absolutely disgusting and unacceptable. If we don't end this madness, this madness will end us...
Riley we women support you 10000% You are amazing and strong. Thank you for standing up for females. I'm so sorry for the injustice you and your teammates has endured.
We men (actual men) also support you 100%
❤ Yes
No I dont
Call me old fashioned but I think sex is relevant in all spaces.
I've been writing to the various sporting bodies in the UK about this. Women's sport has to be protected. Its absurd.
My daughter swam in college, I would have been livid had this happened to her. I applaud Riley for her courage.
It's unbelievable what this girl and her teammates went through. She is an intelligent young woman, I know she'll be a great inspiration in the near future! Stay strong Riley ❤
she absolutely needs to publish the names, positions, and quotes of the people who betrayed the women. these people should be known to the public.
As a former swimmer myself, I know for a fact that sport is so freaking challenging and there is a good reason why males and females compete separately. If even arguably one of the top female swimmers can be beat by a lower tier biological male, then no other women have a chance. Say goodbye to women’s sports as we know it and any scholarships going to biological females.
I’m also a former collegiate swimmer. Men and women can’t even share lanes during practice. I remember other women on my team couldn’t stand the slowest guy on the team, because he would insist on sharing a lane with us, even though he would always lap us.
Swimming is a brutal sport. I remember committing around 5 hours a day for practices during the swim season and going to lecture with wet hair and ice packs saran wrapped to my shoulders. To train like that for months all for your opportunities to be stolen from you by a faux woman is vile.
This exactly. It is taking away opportunities away from women. Next they will take away something else, just on how they can be a better woman than a natural woman. And we’ll be forced to continually accept that men are superior in all things (and I mean all things) That’s where this feels like it is going
Even as a recreational level:
a) All athletes start somewhere, often grassroots & recreational.
b) We KNOW females drop out of sport in puberty & rarely return, leading to (arguably) worsened physical & mental health. All this will only further push women out of sport because what is the point when the chance of tangible reward is reduced? Also some women of religious faiths cannot swim/be undressed with men, they NEED female-only recreational swim groups for example.
Swimming is so unnatural for human so no wonder it's so damn hard. Our cousins the apes they straight up sink and die in water.
I don’t care about sports whatsoever…but I have a problem when men can be a women and get pregnant…this is crazy…and God knew human beings are destroyed from within and evils…many people can’t even make $5/day in some countries, many people don’t even have foods and water…and we are here talking about sports and sex transgender…many idiots need to go to hell….ruin many lives…especially young students and kids…I hope people wake up…and slap those idiots in the face….enough is enough…Peace…
It's really hard to phantom that this is the reality we're actually living in today. Unreal
When the teen boys at Oakville trafalger school went to their admin about their trans teacher with the massive sex prop breasts, they were given the exact same answer "we will get you counselling to make you comfortable", as if we are the mentally unstable ones
So that's real?!!!!
I negatively responsed because the PTB should not be inflicting this psychosis on our children and youth. I agree with your comment
Sounds like brainwashing
💀
She’s incredibly mature for her age. She’ll go far in life.
I hope she doesn't end up with some rich idiot for a husband
This is often the case for anyone who achieves greatness at a young age, I find.
Except for Hollywood actors, of course. lol
@@LoneCloudHopper 😂
Thank you for giving Riley the chance to speak the truth! She's an incredibly brave woman and champion for our rights.
Your rights demanded equality of opportunity. This is what men have to do to get equal representation. YOU wanted.
@BoB-th8wm Men have to pretend to be women to get equal representation?
@BoB
Equality of opportunity and Title IX operate in two entirely different spheres.
Which is exactly the point.
@@BoB-th8wm You have the equal opportunity to compete, as a biological man, in male spaces against other men.
You DO NOT have the right to compete, as a biological man, in women's spaces against biological women. You do not have the right to infringe on their equality of opportunity.
she barely got to speak, to be honest though.
Arent we blessed to listen to this conversation between two amazing human beings?
Thank you to both of you for standing up against woke oppression
Her description of that "gut punch" moment, that other woman seeing her work and accomplishments stripped away, moved me to tears. I can't even imagine the frustration. "We got around that by making the locker room unisex." What an absolute serpent. The people involved in that decision and the enforcement of it are scum and should be ashamed, the spineless cretins.
I applaud you both for speaking out about this.
Such a perfect description of snakes among os
What i don’t understand is the people who say it’s okay for men to compete against women if they say they’re a woman, are not athletes. I bet a very high majority if not exclusively all athletes will agree that it is unfair for men to compete against women. Look at the clip of Venus (or Serena) Williams after they played that one dude tennis player who was like number 206 in world and lost , they said they don’t want to compete against men because they’ll be embarrassed. (I hope that made sense).
I agree. Locker rooms should be separated. Public norms demand rest areas/rooms are given the right to protect their privacy in public spaces. The Only time I agree with restroom changes was when a "family" restroom was added to help parents traveling with children that needed that benefit publicly to bring the opposite sexed child into a closed private area.
The thing that terrifies me, as a mother of 2 girls, that some weirdo will say they’re “trans” or “feel like a girl” and be in the bathroom and try to touch them. I know trans people.. I take NO issue w them… I do, however, take issue w men saying they’re women just so they can diddle kids, so they can be better in sports… they can oppress us more.. sit down. Put your dick away.
@@cwonderment separate unisex single stall bathrooms with a common sink area is a simpler if more costly alternative, but some of those extra costs result in greater privacy and safety while some cost reduction can come from the common sink area and the lack of a need for a privacy screen wall or double door entrance.
Riley may not know it, but she has started something and is incredibly brave. Saying what so many are terrified to say.
I wouldn’t say brave, more like courage. Being brave means you’re acting on something without thinking it while having courage is still being scared but you’re acting on it anyway.
Stop saying brave.
I love how JBP approached this almost like a cross examination but with a smooth, yet kind of style that allowed Riley to answer in a very effective and emotional, yet logical way..
👏👏
Jordan. I love you. Please stop interrupting your guests. 😔 kudos to these women for finally stepping up and fighting back!
Two brilliant individuals but I totally agree with your comment regarding too many interruptions, it would be very interesting to hear Jordans view on this constructive criticism?
This is what strength looks like. We need more people like Riley Gaines who have the courage to speak up against the current narrative.
well said!
Exactly, speak up in your community.
@@extremeresponsibility4325 they will say "as long doesn't bother me or my family, I don't care what happens to others".
Thanks Riley and Jordan for speaking out. I'm a University lecturer myself and the bullshit and insanity is all around.
I was born into BS and insanity - I was able to overcome it by learning how to think rationally first, which is no easy task for anyone, and I thankfully had the luxury of a full decade to search for a solution that didn't work just for my own benefit. I found it important to articulate answers that inspire me to the "hard why" questions. Why do people seek coercive power? Why do people play the monolithic hierarchy game when it's not in their best interest to do so? Why can't the masses, i.e. people with a strong inferiority complex and/or highly emotional thought process, realize that they are harming themselves by not supporting the rational thinking people who they feel inferior to, and instead supporting con artists who use them as footstools for coercive power over the rational people - the people who would help them under a better hierarchy.
A woman is woman genetically, biologically is solely fact based, sound, cold, straight forward, hard truth biology. Humans as a species are mammals .
A mammal, like elephants, canines, felines, whales etc etc. Do we ever see a male elephant wandering around pretending to be a female elephant, or wanting to mate with another Male ??
Or are there any canine bitches running around pretending to be a male dog ?? Are there any male Blue Whales swimming around in the oceans, pursuing and looking for another MALE Blue Whale to mate with ?? NO, NEVER. This craziness has however everything to do with subjective, abstract, non logical, irrational, emotions, imaginations, sexual and non sexual fantasies, illusions, delusions of the psyche, some irrational retrograde (go back to old Rome or Babylon) philosophy and feelings, lots and lots of feelings and imaginations and non logic Fantasies; in someones head. That's okay, fine, if it's in someones head but, and this is a BUT the size of all universes out there, what bugs me is that people are just not intelligent, gutsy, rational, logical enough to admit that. Just admit and say, "I want to publicly live out my irrational, sexual role play fantasies" and at least have some logic and guts and stop dragging, fact based, hard, cold truth, biology and genetics into this.
@@annihilationHaven Thanks for this in-depth reply - you have a strong and enquiring mind. These are challenging times!
@annihilationHaven I don't know why can't religious right wingers realize they do far more harm than good while suffering deeply from dunning-kruger?
@@danielessex2162 What are religious right enters?
I have no problem with people being whatever they want to be, but keep it to yourself and don’t expect the world to cater to your choices. Love and support from 🇨🇦 Riley, never back down we have your back! And thank you Jordan for all your hard work, you are Canada’s greatest treasure! ❤️Alberta
Riley deserves every accolade imaginable for the way she is standing up to the trans issue. She is a beautiful, intelligent, articulate, amazing young lady, and she is a born leader. I wish the incredible beautiful soul nothing but success at the highest of high levels of everything in life!
Riley the women of the world are watching and we are with you. You are the wonder woman to take down this toxic ambush of women rights. As a fellow woman I salute you! Women around the world are proud to have you in this fight.
If only the "women of the world" would all start acting instead of sitting, watching and cheering on social media. More women need to get out there instead of looking for a "savior" they can cheer with only their fingers and keyboards
@@briankenome It would also be great if women wouldn’t have to fight MEN alone and the men that constantly pride themselves in “protecting women and children” would actually DO the protecting part instead of leaving comments on the internet blaming women who can’t physically fight grown men.
@@nothanks1945 hope you realize that men started to pull back when radical feminists started to let the world know how independent and strong they are and how women don't need men for nothing.
This whole gender ideology has its roots in radical feminism! Doesn't it bother you that the majority of people supporting this whole trans ideology happen to be women? Yet women want men to be protective while at the same time calling men toxic for being masculine? Y'all need pick a side and stick to it cos it's a "damned if you do and damned if you don't" situation for something that has its roots in radical feminism!
@@nothanks1945 war is always in the mind before anything physical arises, you fight with your mind.
Telling someone, "Hey! Don't you tell me more woman need to stand up! What about men?" That's an impression of you btw, you're attacking the person helping You, who's making a call for an uprising, Yes this is "womens" fight first and of course we are here to help You, but when you say stuff like that you're just coming across as an sexist asshole.
So accept the help and stop bitching.
Or fight alone.
Women of the world let’s unite 🦸♀️
Thank you Dr Peterson and Riley, you are backed by thousands who MUST speak out against this insanity! Thank you for your bravery, I applaud you! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
You are correct except for one thing - I think that she is backed over a million. Many are just too frightened to speak out based on Riley's own experience.
I agree. Riley, don't bother with dentistry. You have a much greater calling than that. We need you and other women like you, to stand up and be true leaders for women on a global level, to counter the Greta Thunbergs, and the insidiously destructive corrosion of the trans movement. Girls and women need role models who are genuinely female, and who understand what that's like in a way that only they can. There's no need for a war between men and women, we were designed to be complimentary and you clearly understand that, and can be a voice for that. Understanding and communication can overcome ignorance and division, but as with all things competitive, there needs to be those individuals with the unique abilities necessary to light the path and show the way. Not everyone has those abilities or can do that, but you clearly do.
It looks like God has already set your feet on this path, much the same way he set Jordan's feet on his path. Neither of you were looking or asking for it, but if you are willing and accept the calling, God will be with you. Get close to him in prayer, and ask him for whatever it is you will need to be what he is calling you to be. He will grant you what you need. Do it with him, and you will succeed.
MILLIONS!!! 👏✊
We have men and women, simple. If they now think we have something in the middle call trans ,then they have to create only trans competition. We are women period without any prefix . So the other so called women with prefix " trans" must compete in any sports of their choice among themselves. We are fed up with this insanity
Why is it brave to speak truth in the "free world"?..😅
Thank you JP for interviewing Riley and giving her experience even more of a voice. Personally when I heard of this swim meet I was completely dumbfounded. I'm grateful for the opportunity to have heard this BRAVE young lady's testimony.
Riley, for such a young woman your bravery is beyond your years. You are a worrior for truth and justice.
I WISH I can say I'm shocked by this freak show "woke" movement. Corruption has only taken on a new shape...
No! Riley isn't "brave beyond her years"; she is brave appropriate to her years and she should be celebrated for such.
I loved this Conversation. The sheer amount of honest Contempt coming out of Jordan was Hilarious to me. I've never seen him get like that, I felt that.
Is this girl amazing, or what?!? I am a mother of 3 daughters and can only imagine the amount of pride her mother must feel watching her daughter on the national stage. You can already tell that she has a bright future ahead and will most definitely succeed at any endeavor she chooses. (Or, that chooses her) Great program!
I am amazed that this craziness is accepted as normal. I admire Riley for her bravery. She is
an intelligent articulate voice for these times.
She is so articulate. Bravo! Thank you Riley for speaking the truth.
I'm so glad that someone like Riley, who is an extremely successful and talented athlete is speaking up about this. One of the ammunitions/excuses that trans activists use to try to discredit women athletes speaking out is something like "they're not even good at their sport. They're just whining and no matter what they'd lose to anyone regardless if they're trans or not." Can't say that about the talented Riley.
Riley has many gifts. Not only is she a strong athlete, she is an intellectual. I'm so thankful to have someone with her ability to be clear and articulate out there representing women's sports, and women's spaces. So proud of this young lady! We stand with Riley, 💯
Echo echo
Yesssssssssss, we stand with Riley Gaines…GO GIRL, show em we you got!!!!!
Let's all speak up in our community
Go Riley Go!
I'm not a religious person, but I feel that God put her in an exactly tie with Lia to unmask the injustice to the right person to start this movement. God guided the situation to give her this job.
Bravo, Riley. You have many people out there supporting you in your fight against this gender nonsense that now pervades everything. Keep up the great work.
Agreed! This world is going downhill fast…..
My sister also trained to swim competitively from a young age.
The effort wasn't just hers. She needed to be taken to the swimming pool every day at 6am, while the rest of us are still in bed, and she needed to be picked up again when done. For years.
Unless you have witnessed the incredible amount of effort that women like Riley go to, you won't really understand how much people like me hate (yes, hate is the right word), cheats like Thomas.
So when I've seen Thomas interviewed, justifying his position, it makes me want to punch him in the face.
Ironically though, he is a 6ft 4in bloke, who could wipe the floor with me, or any other normal guy, without breaking into a sweat.
Why aren't the audience booing these cheats seems every one commenting supports her but aren't doing anything a whole audience booing would soon stop these cheats
JB's steering of the conversation transitioning between points is just amazing
In addition to her story, Riley is so mature and well spoken carrying herself so well, good job.
The epitome of a strong woman right there. Endless respect for both Riley, and Jordan Peterson for doing this interview.
Lol she's bitching about being 5th
More women need to realize that
Being hot and being held in high esteem as very different things…
And her courage and honesty are worthy of high esteem, and she seems very attractive.
Her husband is blessed.
Mass respect to you young lady. 22? Quite amazing.
She’s weak and denies reality that male are physically superior. Male and female devision in sports is sexist.
Her talent, her work ethic, above all her COURAGE gives me goosebumps. THIS is what stunning and brave looks like. We are behind you Riley!!
My daughter is a young swimmer and these young girls are watching our female athletes for cues. All girls and women deserve a fair athletic playing field.
I’m so sorry what happened to her? This is really horrible this transgender stuff totally evil.
Good point.
To lift a phrase from the trans-activists - Riley is actually "stunning and brave".
Yes. But the courage of PeterAndrewNolan does not give you goosebumps.
Women are equal. So women+ playing women's sports is perfectly OK.
But men and boys do not even deserve the protection of the law. You are a s3xist.
Thank you BOTH for your voices of reason‼️
I am so thankful for people being willing to share their stories. Her story of the mob is so frightening.
Total respect for Riley and JP. Such a good honest conversation that shows how ridiculous this is: Narcissists, Frauds.
Yes! I have been recognizing for a while that many trans people exhibit narcissistic behavior. So glad that more people are taking this perspective. Once you see it, you can't unsee it!
I also think of society at large in the US and Canada (and other places) operating as a dysfunctional family system where
- the people in charge (enablers) aren't protecting the most vulnerable (often because of their own shameless behavior)
- put the "Golden Child" ahead of others (the Narc),
- attempt to sweep the abuse and dysfunction under the rug or cover it up
- while gaslighting truth tellers while labelling them as the black sheep (or problem child)
Tell the truth. Stay strong. We got you.
Absolutely!! 👍
He was very verbal about it. He seemed way more triggered than her.
Hell, any human with a common sense should be.
My 60 year old mom was just couldn’t believe a dude was swimming against a woman.
My 75 year old dad didn’t even want to talk about it. He said literally “send the asteroid”
LOL
@@Deimonos85
God dayuuuum. Your dad scored someone 15 years younger than them lol.
You’re so right! Which is why transgenderism and even thoughts of it, should not exist.
This woman is a national treasure and needs to be protected and celebrated at all costs!
The crazies want to replace that with forcing us to celebrate fake women as real women.
But somehow, you voted for a brain dead lunatic who met with Dylan Mulvaney and whose politics force you to celebrate Lia Thomas instead of Riley Gains. Please, do better next year.
This.
I hope Riley realises there are about 8,000,000,000 people not only in full support of her, but also in full support of women's rights in general. How we've ended up going backwards is beyond me. Racial segregation making a comeback is equally as baffling.
Racial segregation in women’s sport has always been there! My Daughter was varsity player and she is mixed! Treatment from players were horrible her last year of varsity and the biases of her coaches were horrific! and her team of all white girls didn’t stand with her bc they didn’t want to get cut from the team or didn’t want her on the team🤬 by the way my daughter did 7 yrs of training with players from our national team🤷🏻♀️
@@janicebrown4055 I was hoping you were joking. What state is this?
Feminism Caused This Mess.
Feminism IS Cancer ☠️ To ANY Society Embracing It❗
@@janicebrown4055 there are already laws against racial discrimination. It's on you to pursue it. This is a vastly different topic.
@@janicebrown4055
We're NOT Discussing Race Segregation Here,
But Sex Segregation.
Did You NOT Watch The Video,
OR Did Riley Gaines Race
Trigger You Like Her
"White Privilege" Triggered
The Woke Mob Of 200
"Red Guards " 🇨🇳 At SFSU?
🤔
Riley Gaines you have an incredible future ahead of you . Our country needs an advocate such as yourself.. I and many others I'm sure are going to have the backbone and courage to realign this country to reality and morality... Shame on those who have made these bad choices and I hope all women will come together to show their concerns.. Women have made so many advances in our country and shouldn't let these woke thugs stab your integrity in the back.. keep the faith and keep going .
Jordan, your ability to diffuse contentious subjects by reducing them to dryland is so fkn helpful. Thank you. Loved seeing you in Victoria.
I’ve been aware of this story since it broke and I was outraged at the time, but I’ve watched this carefully - it can not be underestimated how important this interview is - as a woman (I refuse to call myself cis - I am simply a woman) I completely empathise with this young woman and applaud her bravery to stand against something that is so fundamental to our society. I have 2 daughters, and unless women like this continue to join the battle I fear for their future. Fantastic piece of content - as a woman I find it deeply upsetting, demoralising and offensive that after decades of fighting for our rights, our needs, our fears and our achievements are cast aside in this way. #keep women’s sports female ❤
I don't say 'cis' either, just woman. Yes, to everything you are saying.
I am woman, too.
As a man I’m sorry we allowed this kind of stuff to happen. It’s our job to protect you girls from all harm no matter what our relationship is. As a man my primal instincts just tell me this is wrong and I want to help and make sure all women are safe and have their rights and privacy protected. Being polite and not speaking up is what allowed this to get out of control and the only way to fix it is to speak up and potentially offending people on the left. They are clearly comfortable with offending others so why should we be concerned about their feelings?
@@boardmeetingsofficial feelings don't matter to me when it comes to any of this crazy stuff. Thanks for having our backs. It's all we can hope for at this point.
NEVER use the radical’s language. It only encourages them and normal does their mad ideas.
No such thing as Cis, no such thing as a trans woman or trans man.
Sorry for the genuine intersex people, but that’s a totally different thing to these claims of the far left/woke progressive loons.
A conversation we shouldn’t even be having. Big salute to Riley.
Riley the loser like Trump😂😂
No no...thank you my good sir. I'll switch over and watch those 30mins thank you. It's so empowering to hear the truth
Two heroes. Thanks for this and keep up the good work! Riley: I hope that people will listen to you and stop the madness, and that all your hard work will pay off.
She’s a hero , and if we live through this , the history books will show it.
Not a hero in my eyes. How can you feel sorry for, or admire girls that just allow a man to waltz into their locker room and pull out his member, then get into the same pool as him and compete? If they had a problem with it they should have done something in the moment. It's good to speak against it now but if you went along with it too any degree, your not a hero. If you let someone light a house on fire, your not a hero for trying to put it out, your just doing your job too late
@@The_PennsylvanianYou can’t be serious. She’s a hero because she’s intelligent enough to know when to act something you seem to not understand. She’s a hero to most!
@@hoodhippychick Agreed, you can't expect a student athlete to do something when every coach, school administrator, and the entire NCAA won't.
What an amazing woman. What an incredible role model for girls everywhere.
I'm a 54 y/o father of two and I am utterly floored by this lady's life story. Keep up the good fight, Riley.
We all need to join the fight--time is now to stop being passivists, LGBTQ's and the Universities are EVIL and we need to fight against them.
Yeah, I was impressed at 23:23 she talked about accountability and women taking any criticism personally.
She was spot on.
Women absolutely hate accountability and anything said to the negatively… wow the whining always start.
She is very aware for her age
You are painting with a broad brush fam... not all women are like that, just like men are not all paragons of maturity.
@@Undomaranel If you believe in the central limit theorem (i.e. normal curve) then you must admit a high percentage fall into being just that... I get it nobody likes being lumped together, but statistically most are.. just facts!
@@werkzeugmann6224only if "curve" includes all women & all men! A sampling is not true facts, numbers are skewed!
JP, you don’t hear you use a lot of sarcasm. But when you do, it’s FANTASTIC!!!
Riley Gaines , a most appropriate example for young women everywhere.
This WOMAN has accomplished so much at such a young age with all the class and integrity anyone can possibly have. We support you Riley against this injustice to women’s rights.
Thomas is a male girl biologically they are male and I have no idea how they are allowed to compete with actual women that are female.
@@Add50326
Feminist Influenced Woke Leftist AGENDA
I have not heard a person this young be so articulate, let alone so accomplished, and I raised 4 sharp adults and employ many of them. THANK YOU RILEY and JP for fighting for women’s sports! I have told my kids that if they were going into Jr or Sr year when “covid” happened I would have ended up in prison, I would have been so EXTRA angry. You’re an inspiration, Ms Riley. Don’t quit! Doesn’t sound like that’s in your DNA anyway.
you're a total babe
Prayers to Riley, please stay strong! Thank you!
I would enjoy to have Jordan Peterson’s perspective on others lives. His perspective about others lives that aren’t garnishing this type of attention. How he could analyze a normal person like me and my childrens lives.
Cancer x2, addiction, divorce, single parent, faith, etc
I could glean a lot from him and what advice he could give to me and my kids as well.
He’s a smart man who has gratefully turned his attention to pressing cultural battles that need to be fought.
But, (not however) I think he could interview or help people who have compelling stories that do not deal with the common culture and help those people a lot also, like myself and my children.
He’s an absolute phenomenon, along the likes I’ve ever heard or studied in my life. It would be cool if he pulled some “average folks” and gave them some time too.
I hope he stays well and continues his intellectual prognostication for the benefit of us all…
“If you feel uncomfortable seeing male genatalia in your locker room (women’s) here are some resources you should seek.” This is insane. This is abuse and must stop now.
This is no less than sexual abuse of minors and or young women. Pray for our nation. Pray for our women. 🙏🏼🕊
I LOVE Riley, but often times the interviewers ask such stupid questions, FINALLY she gets a great interviewer in JP. THANK YOU BOTH❤
Agree - although I’d like to see him let her answer the questions without first inserting his….
@@marykirby5736 Yes. I hate how he interrupts her mid-sentence. It's infuriating to be talked over. PLEASE let people finish their thoughts!
@jsfusion06 I think some of it may be delay. If he's abroad then there is a bit of a delay between her speaking and him receiving the sound. That, coupled with his very quick train of thought, probably made a disastrous combination lol.
I work in a call center and it's a struggle there as well.
@@libertybell8852 It's also probably because he wants to keep the conversation on very specific topics rather than risk getting off topic or rambling.
It's Jordan Peterson .. the man is smart
This was one of the most frank, honest and necessary conversations on social media.
Incredible and powerful experience. Such a shame that these kinds of things are happening but kudos to her for using the resilience and determination she developed doing athletics to be courageous enough to keep going and bring her message to the world. Praying for her.
Wow. What Lia thomas’ teammates went through is criminal. Serious manipulation and abuse. Riley is a damn hero
What’s crazy is this isn’t pandering. This is a govt policy of the highest order.
This is so upsetting I can barely control my anger or tears. I can’t even fathom how traumatic this must be for all these girls. Please please stand together and fight for what’s right 🙏🏻 You have a lot of people behind you. People will rally for you as the truth comes out.
No trauma at all.
They are equal as we have been told.
They must be happy
Ah, I agree completely but, they're swimmers and you said "fathom" I can't help it, laughed
God, you are asking her such mature questions and she responds with ease of a professor while she is 22. then I remember how I can't even keep a straight face during an interview of any sort (I am 20 😂). I am full of admiration and it does make me feel funny yet extremely wholesome when I see an intelligent, wise older man talk to a very young woman as equals, exploring complex topics. Just W O W ❤
Riley you are simply amazing - representing all elite female athletes. Never give up - no sacrifice : no surrender
Riley is very brave and deserves our support.
It's sad that it requires bravery to be sane nowadays.
When I was little I was excited to become part of the world of kind and wise adults 😂 and then found out how colossal stupidity has grown and been nurtured
@@katelynholmes9504 welcome to the club. It is devastating to realise that you don't need to be a candle on the cake and still be some sort of "elite" among society and people. Whenever getting into an argument (mostly with woke idiots and "world saviours") it gets so tiring because they can't even argument with you. You drop a hypthesis or a good argument and they come up with some emotional bullshit or some nonsense argument which you can prove wrong within seconds. Not fun at all. And you can't even reach a healthy consensus or debate since they start getting angry, more irrational and ridiculous. I don't understand, in front of you is someone who is 20+ or 30+ but acting like a small child without even thinking about the things you tell them. Very frustrating.
So impressed with how intelligent and well-spoken Riley Gaines is. I pray she and other female athletes like her prevail against this violent woke madness.
just pray ?
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Not to take away from Ms. Gaines, but she is a college-educated woman. Anything else but being intelligent and well-spoken to some degree should be a given.
@@givmi_more_w9251you would think that should be the case but alas! 'Tis untrue!
I just admire the high skill of both to communicate. Enjoyed listening to this very very much.
Thank you Riley! You go girl!
Never thought of myself as a female rights activist. But. Now more than ever for my daughters and female relatives and friends safety and rights. The world needs more strong people to stand up to the insanity from the “woke mob”. The Fights for women’s rights was long fought and has almost been thrown out over night we all must take a stand. Riley you have mine and many others support. also thanks to Jordan for giving you the platform to speak your mind.
Thank you. It’s really a fight for common sense, truth and reality, but I, as a woman, appreciate you.
Where are the other female athletes standing beside her to stand firm on this madness taking over their sports? Come on ladies where are you?
Why? Women are the ones who did this. Let them suffer from their foolishness. The only obligation we have is to protect the innocent children from this madness.
@@combativeThinker Rubbish! You are more of the same
@@combativeThinker my dude, you must be confused. Those big, odd-looking rich "women" institutionalizing this ideology are actually males. I tend to think it's easy to tell... But the research does show that men aren't quite as accurate at sex differentiation as women are. Lipstick and titties is all it takes, eh? Although many of the rich dudes pushing this stuff DO know they're dudes, so I still don't know how you could make that mistake aside from ignorance.
Here, I'll help you with some names. This movement is almost entirely funded by the following billionaires:
"Jennifer" Pritzker, "Martine" Rothblatt, Soros, the Buffets, Tim Gill, Drummond Pike, Jon Striker, Mark Bonham.
This is how it got so far without most of y'all noticing, and why it's so hard to fight today. Powerful. Well-funded. _Men._ Women did notice, by the way, and have been fighting it since before you were born-probably-you just haven't been listening. You're late, buttercup.
I don't know how many 16 year olds listen to your podcasts, but for me, these have saved me from things i can't even name. Thank you Jordan. I really want to be like you some day.
Good job, keep it up. I'm proud of young people like you, the world needs you!
Oh Dr. Peterson you had me rolling with laughter with your spot on take on that dude Lia. Thank you...
So refreshing to hear sane people willing to speak up & fight against this madness! “Male & female He created them in His image”! Everything you both said is 💯 but I just want to add that mentally women can do multi-tasking,which most of us males aren’t super good at…God gifted men physically,but He gifted women with an extra dose of love & compassion ❤❤❤
If we took away her youthful aesthetics on video and only had her voice and her composure to go off of, I'd easily accept without thought that this woman was very mature in her 30's or 40's even. The fact that she's so well spoken, so accomplished, and so passionate about all of this at the age of 22....my goodness she has so much potential in her future.
I thought she was 30 years old 😅
@@Sentarry Her maturity sure seems to be 30 years old.
Agreed. I never possessed half that directness and clarity at that age. Barely today. Nor can I even grasp that degree of commitment and competitiveness.
100% agreed
I thought she was slightly younger than me. About 27-30. I didn't reach her level of maturity or coherence until then 😅. When I pause the video and look closely at her face, she appears to be in her early 20's.
Riley Gaines is a great example of how to handle a mob and keep fighting.
Yes and Dr Judean Peterstein has done good work
@@malikialgeriankabyleswag4200 ???
She is so brave standing up fighting against those human trash - narcissists, frauds, and enablers often those people have a lot of power unfortunately.
There are VERY few women out there who are as articulate, brave, and posses all the character attributes that Riley has. She’s only 22! She’s leagues above and should be emulated
You can hear the distress in Riley's voice as she relives these events. She is the brave one.
I've been following Riley's story and fight for a bit, and I'm so glad to see her standing up for my daughter's safety and sports!
This is America's Finest right here ,brilliant young woman who makes me proud of our future to see through the current BULL SH__ . GOOD JOB MOM AND DAD YOU RAISED A WONDERFUL HUMAN BEING
Respect to both of you! Keep speaking and reaching out.