I have a Suzuki Grande Vitara which is a combination of ladder and monoque. They are no longer made in America but were quite durable during their existence
Well, in a big crash unibody protects passengers much better. Life is much more important than money, and much stiffer but energy absorbing unibody is not made for crashing for fun, but to protect you in pile-up, rollover etc.
Okay, here I come with a very important part of the body on frame design and why governments like it so much for their vehicles. It is sturdy and easy to reinforce. Most police and law einforcement vehicles have the risk of ending up in a situation where they absolutely have to impact another vehicle one way or annother. So, having a very simple to understand frame structure is key to reinforcing the vehicle and adding things like a push bar/ bull bar/ ram bar that allows to perform those tasks. Ground clearance is also a nice addition to that, with a body that can be spaced up from the frame, there is no need for suspension upgrades to make a taller vehicle and acomodate larger tires if needed (more of an off road feature than law einforcement, but certain agencies like border patrol may benefit from that). A damaged panel doesn't compromise the integrity of the vehicle structure on most cases. Why? Because the strenght is in the frame, not the body, so a bent part doesn't compromiste the vehicles ability to keep going reliably in most cases. And yes, the structural capacity of surviving a roll over is in the body and not the frame, but that is the only thing that could handicap the vehicle if only the body gets damaged. So, my question is why manufacturers don't make mid size SUV'S suitable for police departments in a body on frame style? A direct competitor of the Toyota 4Runner from an american manufacturer would be amazing. It would be like a 1st gen dodge durango which was quite sturdy, could be very fast, much more nimble than a full size SUV and just heavy enough to pack a serious punch in case of collision with annother vehicle. There are many police departments i Mexico that use the Tacoma due to the managable size, body on frame construction, ground clearance and the practicality of having a bed is a plus, but they would absolutely love to have a police pursuit/interceptor variant of the 4 runner available with a powerful engine available instead of having to go for a durango or an explorer. Something chevy, Ford and Dodge should think about for their next gen mid size SUV'S (and dodge already has the frame for the wrangler and gladiator there, they just need to develop a fully independent suspension for that frame and design a masculine angry looking body for it to sell it like it is nobodys business.
A very pithy video which sadly many can't or won't make anymore so I am very appreciative for that. Imho the trucks with short beds are good for transporting a small delivery (such as moderate sized vehicle parts from an auto parts store to a mechanic) and not much else compared to a full sized truck bed. I'd say a person would be better off getting a SUV or van instead unless there are some insurance or cost benefits for a short bed truck.
Tube frames are actually notoriously unsafe and are used solely because of weight. It's important not to confuse a tube frame with a roll cage, which is a chassis addition that reinforces the passenger compartment with metal crossbeams. Roll cages can be done to any frame type, but a tube frame replaces a unibody.
Still don't understand why ladder frame is best for off-roading because once you attach the body to the ladder frame it became one single unit then how it differs from Monocoque in off-roading
This toyota corolla have will be the very last unibody car I ever buy. Because with a very very light 10 mile per hour tap. I am now out over $4000 worth of body damage to the front end? Including a bit unibody frame. Which is not even a frame. If I were driving a 1500. Chevy Silverado or bigger with an actual full Box frame. It's fine i'm I might be looking at maybe a little bit of scratching on the bumper. But considering the fact i'm driving a unibody car you have to have a towed. And I repeat this is my last unibody vehicle from now on I'm buying nothing but a big solid heavy truck. I don't want to be stranded on the side of the road after an accident. I want to actually Be able to drive home.
A unibody is a piece of shit and they have no strength or rigidity and you will have to pay thousands of dollars to fix the vehicle. If you have a body on frame they're usually a lot cheaper to fix and don't cost no where even close to fix. I highly recommend a body on frame very heavy vehicle. If you want something that will survive a fender bender.
smallest body on frame ? check out the all new Daihatsu Terios and it's twin the all new Toyota Rush, in some countries. made in Indonesia & it's best seller there. it's also a 3 row SUV (only in south Africa they specially ordered as 2 row, cmiiw).
Oooh new Cars Simplified. Good explanation. Let's not forget the best unibody car truck, the Subaru Baja! Also the Dodge Rampage. 😂
Concise! Good job, I wish more videos on RUclips were like this.
I have a Suzuki Grande Vitara which is a combination of ladder and monoque. They are no longer made in America but were quite durable during their existence
A unibody is designed to cost you more money in repairs after an accident. Do yourself a favor and get a body on frame Vehicle
Just have fewer accidents.
@@andrewharris3900 Right? lol Tell that to the other guys on the road, their shopping carts, and any hail you happen to see.
Well, in a big crash unibody protects passengers much better. Life is much more important than money, and much stiffer but energy absorbing unibody is not made for crashing for fun, but to protect you in pile-up, rollover etc.
Been awhile, glad to see you!!!
Likewise! I hope things are going well for you!
@@CarsSimplified no I have been sick and lost almost 60 lbs, trying to get back to normal!
Dang, that's a lot! I hope you're doing alright, and sorry I missed this reply for so long!
Okay, here I come with a very important part of the body on frame design and why governments like it so much for their vehicles.
It is sturdy and easy to reinforce.
Most police and law einforcement vehicles have the risk of ending up in a situation where they absolutely have to impact another vehicle one way or annother. So, having a very simple to understand frame structure is key to reinforcing the vehicle and adding things like a push bar/ bull bar/ ram bar that allows to perform those tasks.
Ground clearance is also a nice addition to that, with a body that can be spaced up from the frame, there is no need for suspension upgrades to make a taller vehicle and acomodate larger tires if needed (more of an off road feature than law einforcement, but certain agencies like border patrol may benefit from that).
A damaged panel doesn't compromise the integrity of the vehicle structure on most cases. Why? Because the strenght is in the frame, not the body, so a bent part doesn't compromiste the vehicles ability to keep going reliably in most cases. And yes, the structural capacity of surviving a roll over is in the body and not the frame, but that is the only thing that could handicap the vehicle if only the body gets damaged.
So, my question is why manufacturers don't make mid size SUV'S suitable for police departments in a body on frame style? A direct competitor of the Toyota 4Runner from an american manufacturer would be amazing. It would be like a 1st gen dodge durango which was quite sturdy, could be very fast, much more nimble than a full size SUV and just heavy enough to pack a serious punch in case of collision with annother vehicle. There are many police departments i Mexico that use the Tacoma due to the managable size, body on frame construction, ground clearance and the practicality of having a bed is a plus, but they would absolutely love to have a police pursuit/interceptor variant of the 4 runner available with a powerful engine available instead of having to go for a durango or an explorer.
Something chevy, Ford and Dodge should think about for their next gen mid size SUV'S (and dodge already has the frame for the wrangler and gladiator there, they just need to develop a fully independent suspension for that frame and design a masculine angry looking body for it to sell it like it is nobodys business.
Whatever pal I'm sticking with my 1993 Dodge Ram 12valve Cummins! You can bet your dookie shoot it's got a real frame!
A very pithy video which sadly many can't or won't make anymore so I am very appreciative for that. Imho the trucks with short beds are good for transporting a small delivery (such as moderate sized vehicle parts from an auto parts store to a mechanic) and not much else compared to a full sized truck bed. I'd say a person would be better off getting a SUV or van instead unless there are some insurance or cost benefits for a short bed truck.
Tube frames are actually notoriously unsafe and are used solely because of weight. It's important not to confuse a tube frame with a roll cage, which is a chassis addition that reinforces the passenger compartment with metal crossbeams. Roll cages can be done to any frame type, but a tube frame replaces a unibody.
Still don't understand why ladder frame is best for off-roading because once you attach the body to the ladder frame it became one single unit then how it differs from Monocoque in off-roading
can i use a body on frame car for drifting? I own a 1994 toyota crown facelift varient and i want to turn it into a project car.
This toyota corolla have will be the very last unibody car I ever buy.
Because with a very very light 10 mile per hour tap. I am now out over $4000 worth of body damage to the front end? Including a bit unibody frame. Which is not even a frame.
If I were driving a 1500.
Chevy Silverado or bigger with an actual full Box frame. It's fine i'm I might be looking at maybe a little bit of scratching on the bumper. But considering the fact i'm driving a unibody car you have to have a towed.
And I repeat this is my last unibody vehicle from now on I'm buying nothing but a big solid heavy truck. I don't want to be stranded on the side of the road after an accident. I want to actually Be able to drive home.
Repair cost of unibody is way too much compared to body on frame.
Which is more important, money spent on repairs or your ribs, knees, neck and pelvis?
A unibody is a piece of shit and they have no strength or rigidity and you will have to pay thousands of dollars to fix the vehicle. If you have a body on frame they're usually a lot cheaper to fix and don't cost no where even close to fix.
I highly recommend a body on frame very heavy vehicle. If you want something that will survive a fender bender.
hi was planning to buy a rexton as the SUV has a body on frame is it a good to buy thanks
smallest body on frame ?
check out the all new Daihatsu Terios and it's twin the all new Toyota Rush, in some countries. made in Indonesia & it's best seller there. it's also a 3 row SUV (only in south Africa they specially ordered as 2 row, cmiiw).
A lot of people say unibody is safer.
It is. Why F1 cars have monocoque, instead of ladder frame?
Say no to unibody they are too flimsy
Why F1 cars aren't with a ladder frame but with a very solid monocoque? If ladder frame was so amazing