These are Tanks that Ukraine hopes Russia Would Destroy
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- Опубликовано: 9 май 2024
- How drone operators could estimate the weight of a decoy by just looking at it, why Russians build fake camps of theatrical proportions that are extremely easy to spot by Ukrainians, how candles were used to trick the enemy into wasting their ammunition, and why Russian decoy tanks are nicknamed Rubber Product #2, is #NotWhatYouThink #NWYT
Music:
No Stone Unturned - Brendon Moeller
Routine - Anthony Earls
Hordes - Jo Wandrini
Skipping Class - Birdies
Particle Emission - Silver Maple
Universal Solution - Robert Ruth
Parkour Law - Truvio
Checked In - Jay Varton
Solve It - Max Anson
Leaps - Jay Varton
Fractured Paintings - Trevor Kowalski
Living Is Simple - Arthur Benson
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What did you think of that ending? 🤓
Wait gotta watch first I will come back after I watch the ending
unexpected
@@AmericanInvictusit’s only been 8 minutes how do you watch a 14 minute video
Didn't expect that.
Weird
3:13 *"What did you do during the war, Grandfather?"*
*"I blew up tanks."*
“Inflated tank.” Now that would confuse the kid for sure
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_Son, have you ever heard of aeromorphs or inflation porn?_
_That's basically what I made for the army_
Soon they will they cover a real tank with an inflatable rubber skin to make it look like a decoy.
Sounds like a damned-good idea!
I thought that too
It's odd that you say that... The British in the African Campaign of WWII substituted functional tanks for the wrecks at the side of the road that had been there for weeks.
Shhhh
Ww2 did the same thing would mix in teal tanks with the fakes not a new tactic just a renewed one
Attacking mannequins would be such a mind fuck
Makes me think of nuketown. As well as other maps training Americans to disregard mannequins as targets.
@@matthewxavier8067 They use decomissioned but otherwise REAL vehicles as targets. Damned Good Idea!
@@matthewxavier8067 "Nuketown" wasn't to desensitize soldiers, those fake cities were designed to test the effects of a nuclear detonation (hence "nuke"town). This is important for strategy so you know how far away you need to space your critical facilities so you can determine how many ICBMs you need to intercept for a region to have a probability of remaining functional after the attack.
"I'm a goddamn Onion Mason"
Spetznatz sneaking up on the position to take Prisoners and all they find is "Resusci-Annie" and "Life Size Ken" dols.
12:13 it resembles a grave, so it will work no matter what happens 😂😂
Now using mostly intact but otherwise non-functional/unrepairable equipment as decoys is a damned good idea. A bit of welding, some paint, and some weathering, and it will look like its operational.
Example: shell of a tank with internals/engine removed. used anti-tank tubes on faked emplacements, etc.
That was a freaking good mortar concealment
H@@Dr.Kraig_Ren
The first time decoys made a massive change was during the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia. Back then, wood models of airplanes were made in 1:1 scale, painted with original paint (MiG-29) and the engine "exhaust" was made of one metal barrel cut in two. Also, the wooden model would be padded with tinfoil and fires would be burnt in cut barrels at the back. That way, it would have both radar and heat radiation making it pretty much impossible to see as a decoy. Also, false radar positions with fake radiation sources were made in order to divert HARM missiles from real ones. And so on...
14:12 Only one can provide real protection
thanks im deaf
Neither, to be honest. Just ask Putin, Shoigu, Gerasimov, Lavrov... (should I go on?)
@@WhiteWolf65 Or your father
"A very smart chinese man". Fyi he mean Jackie Chan
Fun fact general Patton was the published leader of the inflatable army after and as part of his punishment for slapping a shell shocked soldier.
You are correct. Dummy / inflatable equipment dated back in ww2
@@kanthanesankandiah760was the " dummy" the guy Patton smacked?
Patton's Army regularly out ran it's fuel convoys.
So did Hitlers Blitzkrieg. But for different reasons.
@@douglasbillington8521 wtf
Wow, great explanation. I never thought of it this way.
This was real interesting, thanks 👍🏼
This was very informative! Thanks
"All warfare is based" - Sun Tzu
Reminds me of that image of a MTLB apc being mocked up to be an Abrams in the Middle East, maybe in the future we will see remote controlled tank mockups to be used as decoys
Definitely will happen in the future
I was thinking that too. They'll have to come up with a way of making tracks on the ground with the decoys. Maybe only drive them on roads?
Already exists
The next step is to put rubber sheets on your real tank to make it look like a decoy. Then the inexpensive rubber decoys look real again as a bonus.
That was probably one of your most interesting installments yet!
Where do you get all of your information? I noticed that clips were from respective ministries, but you were citing quotes from people, corporations, etc.
Great job!
What sources?if you want sources only a few channels give sources. The duran and the new atlas give all of their sources beceause well.. they are just citing factual information backed up by data and history of the matters and how they came to be etc. I stopped watching this channel beceause of it. No links no nothing. Not even a reference to a source
This information not trustworthy.
E.g. he states it was claimed that 44 "himars launcher" were destroyed, while showing the article as his source, but the article reads that 44 himar missiles were intercepted, not launchers.
@@tylerdurden3722 nah shut up its better if Ukrainians underestimate Russia 🤫
The Art of War is severely underrated.
I need to get it and read it
@@andrewreynolds912 you can read it from free a simple google search should bring it up.
What are you talking about, the book is still being referenced in this day and age consistently. It's not underrated at all.
@@mark.082 oh hi mark. Thanks for your opinion.
@@mark.082 that's true
How is something that armies from around the entire world have done continuously in basically the exact same way for thousands of years suddenly "a real game changer."?
I love these videos.
2:21 Wrong, this was based on a report of the russian MoD saying that they have destroyed 44 Himars...and two Himar systems. On that day, they meant the ROCKETS as they have hit a ammunition depot. There was confusion in social media, mixing up everything, but it was clear from the beginning what was meant.
Sure😂 that's what they meant. After the world realized they had the facts wrong and then they decided that is what they actually meant
@@douglasbillington8521 Nah hes right on that one, the guy making this video literally used a source which stated they never said that. It was just social media that run with that narrative, im far from a pro russian guy but it is what it is this time
@@douglasbillington8521 russian are not that stupid do you have any idea how much a himars cost no country would give that much to other!!!!
And you can pretty much guarantee that AI models will include decoys in their training as real targets, because it's already hard for humans to distinguish between real and decoys. We'll probably see a transition to more complex decoys as weapon systems start to have multi-sensor integration. Right now, very few weapons or platforms will analyze targets with radar, IR, and visual.
that chinese ai that russia is using for satellite surveillance is actually able to distinguish between real and decoy. but nevermind, you probably also believe ukraine is winning.
And there is part of the problem. Simple decoys are cheap and quick to build. Even basic anti-tank weapons are not. Smart anti-tank weapons even less so.
@@onenote6619 and yet, a lancet only costs 20.000 $ and is mass produced. its enough to take out a M1A1 or Leopard 2A6
One is reminded of Sherlock Holmes' head decoy in The Empty House and The Mazarin Stone.
Great ending! But I wanna know how close to Moscow they can push that horse!?
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There was a story once when the Germans invested a number of men to build an elaborate airfield decoy complete with all the fake airplanes, towers, hangers, and the rest of the trimmings made of wood. When it was finally completed, the allied did respond and "bombed it",... with a single wooden bomb.
you make very interseting and good videos kepp it up
ten number 2 and three number 4 please!
These videos always describe something exactly as I thought it was.
Decoys will be the first use of humanoid robots.
Surely a better use is a decoy that fights back, i.e. walking Gun Turret
Why bother with robots? Humans are cheaper/easier to replace. At least that's how Pootin would think.
@@douglasbillington8521 I doubt it even for Russia. Once humanoid robots are at a stage they can be mass produced, I'd figure for decoys each one would cost like $6k max. Not that many parts, most of the value is in the software. If they are partially destroyed and recovered the cost is going to be even cheaper for a decoy.
Decoys make sense to me.😊
can u make more of this kind of videos?
So at 11:30 ish, an easy fix for fake positions is to leave behind mines and cameras to monitor/trap the position for when they inevitably come use it
Subterfuge and chicanery were certainly covered by Sun Tsu's (sp?) "Art of War". Some of the quasi-quotes in this video are from his work. Feigning weakness can be extremely effective. Feigning d34th can be as well. I even used these concepts in my series of books ("Diamond Dragons"); most of the battles end up being won by... well... tricks and traps. 💪😎✌️
There were wooden HIMARS decoys known before the inflatable ones.
It works both ways
All they need to do is use heat signatures when confirming targets. 🙄
Genius. How are they supposed to do that, when they don’t have the tech on the battlefield 🙄
It is copyed too.... Air tanks is old tech. Not hard to copy heat signatures of a tank
@@leedex Russia and Ukraine both have thermal imaging. Russia is the third largest producer of night vision technologies behind USA and Israel (Israel mainly because their production includes American factories).
@@janhansen554and it's not as if all equipments are Online all the time.
Why did you change the title
i can just imagine them making decoys more realistic by adding armament, armor, etc, until eventually the decoys just become tanks
“Now thats my word, not some idiots that would just saying for something that i didnt say”
-Sun Tzu, Art of War
Deploying the decoy
It's easy to create inflatable decoys of Military Vehicles, because their shapes are so simple.
its CRAZY how they dont spend the extra 100$ on each decoy to have
- A: Heating Pouches for the Inflatables
- B: Adding RC cars to the bottom of the tank tracks to actually move them for better decoy destruction odds
- C: Add fake radio chatter
Do you believe this video shows all the top secret tactics of the armies, and there is nothing else they might be doing that wasn't revealed to the world?
They have miniature RrC tanks that they use to distract at a distance, you can place a bao feng cheap radio inside one of rubber tanks and in daylight you dont have to use heating because its already hot in daytime. They move the decoys at night in different position
RC ? Then you need to spend more (time and resources)for advance control systems be able to work in radio suppressed environments.etc.
Decoy Wars
I have hemmaroids.
Oh that's so terrible ... that you can't even spell your condition correctly.
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@@NotWhatYouThink I was spelling it as if a toddler was saying it!! 🫠 I love you, thanks for replying!!!
@@NotWhatYouThinkha
hehe thanks for being such a good sport!
@@NotWhatYouThinkbut it's not what you think
I do my own designs for LEGO tanks and armor. I’d love to have a job such as building decoys. It would be a way for me to use my modeling skills to save lives.
@2:14 you say that the Russians claim to have killed 44 Himars, but the image of the news article you put on screen specifically says that "Russia did NOT claim to have destroyed 44 Himars".
When youtubers can't read past the headline :
4:06 the fucking lego man lol
Quando o video chegar perto de 2:30 olha atentamente passa algo igual um missel da esquerda para a direita na tela. Mas estavam falando de outra coisa.
excellent video!!!
"THE CAKE IS A SPY!!!"
"but only one can provide real protection"
how you will hide power plants ?
I bet barn or turtle tanks that Russia uses now will be moving inflatable or wooden decoys with real metal sheets on top of it.
Just imagine a huge number of that decoys that nobody can tell if it's real or not crossing the frontline and covering real tanks, IFVs, APCs and so on.
That will be the future of decoys.
High-quality "decoys", like those with a rotating antenna, are used to train artificial intelligence in various drones, and not as bait
Those inflatable HIMARS would make for a really cool bounce house for my kid's birthday party.
Wo kann ich so eine Hüpfburg bestellen?
I don’t think I’ve ever seen decoys in pop culture. Like I can’t think of a single movie or game that uses decoys (in any realistic ways). Only one Incan think of is Mirage from Apex legends, but when it comes to vehicles the closest I can think of are decoy mechanics, like ”enemy units will target this other shielded unit first”, but rarely if ever have I seen a war game with inflatable decoys.
I want a inflatable decoy tank
Imagine seeing a manikin that you got used to, to star and walk around, doing things. xD
That is the give-away. Mannekins don't move, real soldiers do. Teaching AI that fact may be harder.
what if they makw tanks look like decoys?
A bit unfortunate to say russia claimed 44 HIMARS destroyed, and showing a quote saying they didn't claim that, otherwise a great video
you gotta admit they had to put atleast a little propaganda in it to make russia look bad
Yeah they claimed they intercepted 44 HIMARS rockets.
They did say that I literally saw it with my own eyes
@@cameronspence4977 Do you know what the original source of that claim is? It's a report given by Russian ministry of defence. A guy talking in front of a map. I'm sure if you try, you can find a version of it with subtitles. Then you'll see what he really said. The whole thing is a game of broken telephone where people intentionally misinterpreted what he said and it spread. So unless you saw the source, I don't think you can claim that you saw it with your own eyes.
As usual it was exactly what I thought. So with that I think it's time to change the name of your channel to "It's exactly what I thought".
This immediately makes me think of the Second World War, where the German tank balloons and even actively attacked with them. People really never learn from their mistakes
I am wearing No 1, walking with No 4 to use No 2
Wth 1:47 💀
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You are quoting the export cost of those weapons. In reality the RAF buy them for a fraction of that cost.
New Camo for real tanks, decoy look
We call this "Home Alone'ing your enemy!"
I like at 2:15 you point out saying Russia believed they had destroyed 44 HIMARS and then your source is literally a article which states "Russia did NOT say they destroyed 44 HIMARS just intercepted their rockets...
It also makes it easier to spot the enemy
So, the decoys should be equiped with maybe 10 aditional granades such as M67 to give effect that it was a real vechicle that it wasn't?
Baloons! 😆 lol perhaps baloons TD is a training similation now after watching this lol
Struth!
You mean the Russians could not see that none of the mannequins were moving and shooting back?😊😊😊😊😊
Make a tank that loks like a decoy then a decoy that looks like a tank made to look like a decoy.
You have activated my trap card!
-zelensky said calmly
No War, Freedom World.
5:05 😑👌 Gottem’
In the span of 3 hours ive seen you change the title at least nearly 3 times, why?
youtube allows you to put multiple titles for the same video nowadays
and the algorithm will try to promote the video to you with the different ones
much love all
But Kamikaze drone is cheaper than decoy
All of those tricks with decoy might be revealed with the hd Cam of drone
*massive NUMBER of mannequins...not "amount"
1,2,3, 500 mannequins... that's a number not an amount, which is for kilograms, gallons, etc
44 highmars😂 lmao thats so funnyb seriously we never sent that many😂😂😂😂
I would think inflatable decoys don't work nowadays because they are very obvious when looked at with a thermal camera (just a huge blob same temperature all around, pretty fake).
I guess there are not enough thermal cameras around then.
Heaters and generators have entered the chat.
Russians just hit a decoy Patriot so no, they work.
So on the reverse, why can't they put dummy profiles on the real ones to make them look fake.
well i haven't heard of moving decoys yet...so doing this would risk the life of whoever's driving the thing
No silly, when it's stationary, have a inflatable skin/cover to make it look fake @@spectre818
the decoys looks like the real thing, the real thing looks like a decoy, we use real missiles on the decoy, and decoy missiles on the real thing
Good morning from Australia, I'll get to the ending in 14mins...
cheers mate, it doesnt matter how much time you need to get to the end. most important is that you enjoyed the ride. 🥸😋
How was it.
@@Doi- Unexpected...I really thought it was bloody funny. How was it for you lol?
@@cloudpandarism2627 The ending is worth it. =)
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So,all frontlines has to be decoy,that's why frontlines are falling too quickly. 😂😂😂
Exactly 😂.
"A very smart chinese man" lol
Sun Tzu wrote the art of war.
I bet the that factory got a lot of profits
i want a decoy tank now xD
A good looking vehicle decoy is more expensive than a Shahed drone.
That's all you need to know.
Quick question, 11:45 DO Russians Enter these traps to or just Ukrainians.
also - real things can have added effects to make them look like decoys....
when he said "and only one can provide real protection" i thought it was some segway to some vpn ads
me saying call your hits at a airsoft game
*gets mad at a decoy*
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How old was that Russian bit at the end? That is not what happens today. Person behind the counter: "Hey, this guy wants condoms." Guy at the top of his lungs: "You bet I do!" "You only use condoms for two things and I ain't going to make war, baby!" 😁😁😁
World War 2 Two decoys.
Uh, if the THERMAL temp is no diff ... they it's not relevant anymore.