Paying for Adobe Subscription? Pros & Cons
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Thanks for watching the video Paying for Adobe Subscription? Pros & Cons
If Photoshop was a One time purchase soo many people would of bought it
It probably would make Adobe more richer tbh
idk why they changed it to a subscription
It will cost few k dolars
I don’t know why they done do that instead it makes sense man 😢😭
@@rahibmiah there was non subscription version 2012 2013 and that cost few k I have cs6 one time purchase
I've gone away from Adobe and use affinity suite to replace Illustrator, photoshop, and indesign. For video editing I'm using davinci resolve. I just hate the idea of paying for something I wont own. I rather pay one time and keep the version I got and have upgrading optional then end a subscription and be unable to open any of my files. And adobe software is super buggy.
Still learning Paint on Windows 98 ✊️ I’m getting there
lol
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Try paint free dee!😃
Me too! I thought photoshop was something u could purchase , i dint need it that bad ! I have a guy that must be selling it illegal but I’m gonna buy it from him, get all 13 programs for $120 plus he offering me windows 10 pro and virus protection for a yr 🤷🏽♀️
No, you don't have to buy affinity software every time to get updates. You pay once, and then you get free updates FOREVER
Not forever, but you will get several free major and minor updates until they release 2.0, 3.0, etc. Bought my copy of Photo in 2017 and haven't paid more than initial price point since. Last time I checked, Serif will keep making free updates for at least a few more years at the least, so it is great value for what you spend.
Hi Ran, personally I completely abandoned Adobe almost two years ago and for me it wasn’t for the subscription model. I made the switch because I think the adobe's softwares are simply bad, they have been great in the past but nowadays are outdated at the core. In fact adobe for marketing reasons (I guess) decided to focus on new functionalities (that are arguably useful in my opinion) for years, as result today we have softwares with an outdated core which don’t implement at all the real improvements of the industry in the recent years (gpu acceleration, machine learning, etc). I'm aware they are trying interesting things on newest products like XD or the iPad's stuff but for me this is not enough. Not mentioning all the Helpers, Deamons and mysterious files that their messy ecosystem installs on your machine for whatever reason.
Right know I’m fully covered with the Affinity Suite, DaVinci Resolve, Blender, both Figma and Sketch and Vectoraster. I hope one day they'll realize that what really matters in a piece of software is the foundation not all the gold plating that you put on top of it.
very well said
completely agree, Adobe is betting for the Circus instead of taking care of its old users and their real needs.
Hi, I can see paying for Adobe as a professional / business user. Someone who wants to use it for personal projects or to learn and become familiar with the applications it is much too costly. It seems to be shortsighted on Adobe’s part. I imagine a significant percentage of those ‘amateurs’ would eventually use it professionally.
Yes, exactly. Thanks for sharing. :)
They should of just do it like autodesk where they just have their software for free for students.
This is why I think they should have a cheaper bundle containing: After Effects, Photoshop, Audition, and Premiere Pro. Just like a director suite bundle. It can be cheaper than the whole cloud.
I also have Adobe CC and agree, it's so useful to have all the different tools for photo/vector/audio/video etc. available. Another benefit is that with the subscription, I also get free hosting for my portfolio website which is amazing.
However, I'm primarily a UX designer, and right now I prefer to use Figma and/or Framer over XD - maybe it'll change in the future though!
As an amateur it's hard to justify subscription-based software, you simply do not use it enough..on the other hand, at some point you end up taking fairly good pictures, that just need that little extra touch to become wall hangers.
Think I would swap from Gimp to Adobe creative cloud if there was a pay-per-picture option.
i bought the affinity programs and i love them. I still miss using PS and AI because those were the first programs i used for digital art. My class from highschool called multimedia is how got into digital art. also i bought the affinity programs through the windows store and i have two laptops that are windows and affinity is still under my account of products i baught and can re download at any time
My friend, you are very right, I don’t even want to go into the financial part of it but Adobe ceos are make a very nice chunk of change off everyone’s back. On a different note, I’m a designer that has used photoshop and illustrator for years. Now I’m tired of being milked like a cow. So, what to do? In my case, in order to replace photoshop and illustrator I would need : in Canadian dollars (affinity photo, designer and publisher: 150$ total with free updates )+(Corel paint shop pro :100$+ GRFX studio: 540$, draw 630$and painter 500$)+ ( Gimp + add on g mic filters :Free)+ (Inkscape: free) + (krita: free) , bringing us to a total of 1920$ Canadian, vs the 56$/month (Canadian) or 672$ per year. I much prefer owning my soft ware and upgrading when I see fit rather than this vampiric adobe model, that forces updates down your throat, and by consequence, forcing you to ever upgrade on the actual computer that is running it. In conclusion either adobe brings back the cs model,( possibly charging us for certain updates like new tools and features that we can choose to either purchase or not) or simply boycott them completely. THERE IS LIFE AFTER ADOBE!!!
Youre preaching right now brotha. Adobe sucks STICK IT TO THE MAN!!
I am starting out, trying things and learning stuff. Makes no sense for me to pay a subscription if Web Designer will not be my cup of tea. So I am really trying to find out with what I can start with and hope that free alternatives aren't much painful to start with. I am using GIMP instead of Photoshop and Inkscape instead of Illustrator but for designing a new website I am really struggling to what start with, I tried webflow but instead making my website I kind of wasn't able to do what I wanted to do in that struggling with most of elements to put in where I want and not break the consistency or structure of website...
I am going to try Figma now, hopefully I will be more successful than with webflow.
Affinity has been releasing updates free for more than two years.
The Photography Plan of Adobe is good for most photographers. The Teacher and Student discount is good starting point for many eligible from the academia.
Great video! The full version of Adobe CC I have is only (US) $52 for myself. At work the cost is more for the business license like you mentioned. I have the Affinity software on my iPad and laptop and use them along with the Adobe CC software depending on my needs. They are tools and serve their purpose when needed. No other software out there (that I know of) offers the ability to sync files in the cloud across platform which is a big deal for me. At the end of the day, software is a tax write off for a business.
Hi I am using Affinity software photo, designer and publisher also after them releasing the linking software it has been a real boost in productivity after using Adobe suite for many years I thought the switch would be hard but cost is a key factor for my self I don’t miss paying them each month
Yep just canceled my plan and never looking back. As an amateur artist I'm moving to more freesource software or even paid software if I only pay for it once. The subscription style adobe does with their monopolistic position in the market right now is just predatory imo. If adobe released software that updated every year like photoshop 2022 and was a different software with each release every year and could own it forever for that one version of photoshop I would but nope.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. In my daily job I rarely even open Adobe's software and am well aware they're responsible for quite a few slowdowns on my mac.
Sketch & Figma are my go to tools. :)
I feel like affinities model is really good for individuals or small teams. I firmly believe they’ll eventually surpass Adobe in comparative app features just given the consistency of quality for updates. Additionally, on that topic, I am more likely to update every single year for great new features. The commitment required by Adobe is madness for most small creators. You can get one app for 30 bucks a month or the whole cloud for 80+. There is not a good amount of customizability there for creator needs. They insist the price is right, but you see so many other companies doing great things with so much less of a cost, let alone no subscription. In a world of the internet and increasingly free information, Adobe will struggle outside of the corporate sector. Though at the same time I get the vibe that they don’t want small businesses or individuals who are new to the industry using their software. They term those folks as “hobbyists” and it is low key disgusting, but understandable from a big business POV.
I guess it’s only fair that they charge me per month seeing as I spent the first 15 years of my career using a pirated version 😂😂
Years ago I read an interview (or atleast I think I did, might've been fake too) where Adobe said that they don't mind pirating as much, because at some point when you are ready to pay for some kinda software, you already know how to use theirs, so you are more likely to pick their software. Now this was like 5 years ago, so I'm not sure about how legit it is, but sounds smart.
@@ismininotonline That don't make sense. It literally *wasn't* sub based 15 years ago. And also, the sub made it much harder to pirate actually.
@@MrHale That's awesome. That's a great attitude for companies to have. I think if they were *really* smart, they would come out with a separate, much much cheaper plan, and say you can use this plan for all non-commercial work.
@@ismininotonline Before it was sub based, it cost $2600. Would you really pay that? I think the new model is better. The problem is, their software sucks. How is it that a $50 software is comparable in features and does most things better than one that costs $50 every month? lol
@@ismininotonline Maybe, but they're shedding customers willy nilly. IMO it's too little too late even if they get back in the game. Also, yeah there was cheaper versions than $2600 but that's how much it was for the full package with all apps. Photoshop CS6 by itself was $700.
I can’t afford it lol free open source software work great for me.
Gimp
Inkscape
Figma
Kdenlive
Maybe someday.
If you want the new photoshop 2020, I can get it for you for VERY cheap. If you are interested, just let me know. I will be more than happy to help.
@@nttube1 Original?
@@andyzh8617 original? Yes the real thing
@@nttube1 eah but how to get it?
I'm just lost because I'm new to this so i don't know what software to start with could someone help me
What's the camera that u use to make your videos! It's so HD wooooou ! Such a good video btw thanks 💖
Hi, how about if your only using to resize the picture and compatible to hiipoo sublimation ink? Do you know of any software that is free or cheaper than photoshop? Thank you I’m advance. Right now I’m on 7 day trial. I don’t like to spend monthly subscription and I’m not designer at all. 😊
for affinity products u buy once an u get upgrades for free but if its a major update then u have to pay so u bought v1 u will get updates for v1 but when v2 releases u have to pay again
I have photoshop but it’s not showing up with all these different options that I’m seeing on peoples videos
Bundling makes sense, but it is expensive. I had many adobe programs at my job, but now I left there and need them at home. I mostly used Illustrator, photoshop. premiere pro and inDesign, but it is stupid to pay more for those individually. Do you have only one license for the bundle? Can you use the software on more than one device?
I bought the $260 annual plan for adobe premiere pro, do I also have to buy a subscription with that?
Are there any free alternatives to Adobe Illustrator? Something I can use for logo design
Keep your eyes out for their Black Friday sale in November. The cost of the design bundle ends up being $29.99 per month, which is a no-brainer when you consider how often we as designers use/need the Adobe products. I don’t love that you can’t pay the subscription annually when you’re on the Black Friday promotion, but the deep discount is worth it for me.
Thanks for the tip Tara! good to see you on the comments!
what do you get for $29.99? i've never seen this with adobe. At best I got $57 / month.
@@wadevid check now, they are offering 40% discount.
Is great but expires? Snyou continue to pay at the new price without cancel i heard please check thtat first
I need to do video editing and logo design, which means that I'll need photoshop, premiere and illustrator. In Australia each of them go for 30 dollars a month, so 90 dollars a month total. The entire creative suite costs 76 dollars, but either way, I'm going to either spend more for the stuff I only need or spend a little less and have more than a dozen apps I will never use.
If we do a little math 76 dollars a month over 20 apps is about 3.80 per app. They should price each individual app at like 6 dollars a month to make it reasonable for someone who only needs 3 or 4 apps but still offer great value for someone who needs most of the suite.
What's the point in the good value you get for buying the entire suite when you only need 3 apps
Well said, very annoying strategy by adobe
I make zero dollars as a designer/graphic artist but I learned Photoshop decades ago with pirated versions. Later I BOUGHT CS5/CS6 because I found a good deal and I find that I use Photoshop EVERYDAY for various scan/photo projects I do for fun. After a while (and many Windows upgrades) CS6 was starting to get a little "long in the tooth" so I tried Affinity since Adobe only sells subscription-ware now. It was--- OK.....but my muscle memory for common functions and various short cuts that are now HARD-WIRED into my psyche after about 25 years of Photoshop use just did NOT work with it! So I have reluctantly started paying for a 'photography' subscription which includes Photoshop and Lightroom for $9.99 a month. It IS a bit expensive for something I do for fun....but worth it IMHO. I do think they should offer an "Hobbyist" sub with just Photoshop and no online storage for $5.99 a month. That would be a GREAT deal for people like me.
Affiniy Design and Photo won't open at all on my Macbook. MacOs 10.15. Icon keeps bouncing and the software doesn't open up. Their support team can't even point me in the right direction with one solution. They're telling me to try this or try that. I'm only switching because PS CC is overwhelmingly slower. I had been using CS6 all the way up til 2020. I need to figure out something fast.
Just a quick tip. If you are a student you get the CC bundle for 19.99EU. And if your university doesn't close your account after you finish, well then you get the 19.99 forever... :)
I think affinity have done free updates for years? I think personally if you just do web/UX design you can probably get away with just Figma and an image editing tool but depends on your job really.
For cloud based subscription software is there a risk of your work(of part of it) being capture by the provider?
I would just assume adobe can see anything you do with their software as long as you're connected to the internet. Most large software companies are doing this anyway (think apple, microsoft, google, adobe, etc.)
I had photoshop elements for a long time, then I bought photoshop 9. After that I pirated for a while. When I became a student, I bought CC but as I just can’t justify paying literally INFINITE money for something that I can just pay once for. I bought all 3 Affinity products in the recent sale and I am so happy I don’t have another subscription going out every month. It just doesn’t make sense to pay a subscription for software. Never.
Hi, Thanks for this usefull info. I love using procreate since I am an illustrator/artist. It works well enough for anything I want to print right now. However I do want to create higher quality illustrations and even logo's. I notice no matter what I do with the setting. It does not get as big as I want it to be.
Affinity on the other hand makes higher quality/no pixel illustrations. But I find it not as nice to work with, also since I work on a older (hopefully soon to be updated tablet)
Thanks, bye
To be honest photoshop is to superior. It's amazing! If your making money using it then it's all good. But if you are losing out and not making money from it dont bother lol.
same with Illustrator.. its just way superior.. people claim affinity its better... Hell no... just no... drop it xD. you cant even render properly
This is some surprisingly high quality content for this low of statistics.
I've been using many of the Adobe softwares along with a couple from Autodesk for a long time. And in my opinion this subscription model gives the end user a worse product at a higher price. I mean what significant updates has been done to these softwares that justify this high price? Almost none.
For people who could afford the perpetual licences it's more expensive, but paying a small amount monthly is a lot more accessible to people that may not be able to justify a thousand dollars for a piece of software
Interesting thoughts, Ran, thank you for sharing. As a developer, I find Sketch is the design tool for me, and I recently (3-4 mo.) made the switch from Adobe to Affinity Photo and Designer. Though for me, this works. I am not heavily involved in vector work and use Designer as a tool for editing logos and vector files when necessary, but the majority of the work I do is in Sketch and Affinity Photo. I find the lower cost and similar toolset is right for me. There are some features that are missing from these newer tools, but I believe the teams behind them believe in the innovative potential and their products will continue to evolve.
If Adobe CC had a lifetime purchase, it would sell WAAAY better
Thanks for sharing Ran! One additional thing that I actually think is massive, .ai files. Adobe owns exclusive rights to the file type and its industry standard; I get asked on literally every project that includes vector design work to include a ai version. Even if you were to make a workflow Adobe free, you would still need illustrator for file conversions. I'm thinking I move away from XD to Figma for client relations purposes and content editing, do you think there's any value to that or should I just show image / video mockups and present finished work from XD only? For my stack I use Affinity for 90% of photo / graphic design stuff nowadays, I actually think for freelance or small agency web designers Affinity is a far superior product. After effects + bodymovin is used for most projects now and I find premiere a lot easier than DaVinci Resolve for video. Webflow all the time!!
Anansi Creative
Interesting 🤔 Suggest to them EPS-file instead of AI. To my knowledge, that assures it can be openen in any vector-programme.
@@_EDDE_ EPS may very well work as an alternative functionality wise, for some things SVG would probably cut it too. I think that with deeply ingrained industry standards, unless your alternative presents some significant benefits on the clients end, you should adhere to them; it comes down to good customer service in my mind
Adobe. Buying is better than renting. If monthly payment costs 50 dollars (RM200), that is just too much. Reek all the money from corporations and companies, but please drop the price for individuals
One time purchase for each program please
I think Figma community plugins are like an unnoticed monster growing.
Lol i've been using Figma to design for a whole year with just plugins to get the trick done. I wont say it was easy but I could make solid UI with help from a few plugins.
It is not totally about the money pet month, is also about their services and unreliable online cloud system, you may need to install and install again when you encounter problems...
I only have the Photography plan so I don't see the subscription as a problem. However, Photoshop became so slow that I started looking for alternatives. I ended up with Affinity Photo. And going back to Ps after Photo, the difference in speed is pretty obvious. Much more now that I have something to compare it to. I've used Illustrator before but I'm not fluent with it. And if I ever have to learn a vector program today, I'd pick Affinity Designer.
I would pay it if it was like £30 a month max but the price is mad. I was thinking about swapping to premiere for video editing because Sony Vegas crashes so much but the price puts me off. I dont make any money from editing its just my hobby.
I'm using photoshop from cs3 if I'm correct. Never paid and will never gonna do. Torrent is your friend all the way 😂
I can't stop laughing at people's comment here... lol
Guys get a cracked version of the Adobe softwares and all these problems will be solved... I've been using that for a long time
Forgive me Adobe but i have to find my way to get out of the Eco system to be able to use the Adobe programs... 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Share the wealth
Where do I go to get the cracked version and does it support iOS Mac 15?
@@NahdiyaNixon look on tumblr graphic making resource blogs
@@ajones2367 thing is half of them got viruses who’s a trusted source no one knows
I actually bought a legit version of cs4 web premium years ago. I just installed it again today flawlessly. Everything loads super fast too bc it was built for older cpu's. I barely use adobe anymore but I still need it so this will be perfect unless windows kills it somehow!
crack it....yup
**Knock** **Knock** **Knock** *FBI Open Up!*
I remember Adobe being free now its monthly
Especially when my father used to buy alot of their products back then, until one day I think one of the programs of adobe he updated then it became a subscription even though he bought it as a lifetime (forgot which software it was)
If anything Adobe did subscription cause they did not have much competition if any at all back then and tried to capitalize on that, now there's others out there (I prefer Davinci resolve cause of their colors and simple use)
There was one illustrator/adobe like software out there that tried to transition from one time payment to subscription and they LOST ALOT of users to the point they had to reel in their decision
Subscription is BAD, it makes the users feel as if they do NOT "own" the software; something more like renting an apartment which you don't own and you have to pay per month.
I have adobe subscription. But I only use dreamweaver, acrobat, and photoshop out of it for only like a handful of times per year. Years ago I bought adobe cs4 web. I actually just installed it flawlessly today and I think i'm gonna cancel my adobe subscription. It's very old but I don't use it much and it does everything I need. it's gonna save me about $600+ per year.
I warned people that renting adobe software was a bad idea. PS was 10 dollars. Now people are crying its 22 dollars w/ super useless Fresco. I would take Sketchbook (free), Rebelle, CSP, Artrage (80 buy/50 upgrade), Painter (300 buy/100-150 upgrade, ect, ect. Fyi... upgrading every year is a waste of money.
For certain people, perhaps renting is a good alternative if you're using 80% of their software; despite... Adobe breaking, constant patches/fixes and in Mac Users case, losing all of their photos.
I use use of 3 Adobe's software & only 1 on a regular basis.
The option to buy should still be available. This is the #1 reason why Adobe is a huge pirate magnet. #1 actually. Adobe knows it too & they really don't fight it because it keeps them at top. They consider it free advertising.
Edit: Affinity Designer is becoming a really good Illustrator replacement as is Affinity Publisher. Photoshop, still has no equal yet I constantly warn my students to seek alternatives to PS. Yes, despite being a Adobe certified expert & instructor, I do NOT endorse Adobe.
I can't afford adobe subscription, I am buying a DVD of Adobe collection on 6-7$ which has 6-8 adobe software and it works for me for one year
how you get that?
Homie needs an affiliate link, I'm sold!
Wow man, you know so many softwares of Adobe, and you also works with Sketch, on top of that you also know Webflow 😯
🤯
I get the subscription model for the Adobe suite it makes sense to give people a chance to use it. There is another company, however that has a software that makes games. They used to sell the software for like $100. Now they're doing the subscription model because of greed in my opinion so I stopped using them. The software is called Construct 3....I have Construct 2.
Had to use adobe creative cloud for school. Students pay a cheaper price. I used the student monthly payments(annual). After I finished classes and stopped using it I decided to cancel. When I canceled it adobe charged me a cancellation fee of $39. So, if your a student using adobe be careful.
trecm
That's crazy. 🙈
Why did you stop using it?
Did u not graduate?
It's a great business model but I don't like how they hold your work hostage if you don't pay their subscriptions. I mean it's just like having a phone plan and such but if the other softwares caught up to Adobe's and it's a one time payment then I'd rather pay an one time fee instead of a lifetime of payments.
I can see people not wanting to buy new because of the initial lump some price while what they have are still working and does the job. I'd use the CS version forever if I could. It may take longer to do some things but the end product is the same. People are going to judge you on your work instead of your tools.
I really don't want to be stuck in another subscription but if I was Adobe I need to pay employees and if I was a business I can see it as a tool and a tax deduction. If I was just a hobbyist who edits on occasion then I'd get the one time payment ones.
I still use CS5 my art teacher gave me back in highschool backed it up on a hard drive and now Adobe is saying it’s a “non legal version” after all these years 😑
😅
cs4 here! lol Just loaded it up today!
I'm an Affinity user, but the thing a lot of people miss about Adobe's subscription model is that when they used to sell the software standalone, it would cost MORE if you bought every new version than it now costs to stay subbed to CC. Significantly more. These apps used to cost thousands.
The real problem with Adobe is that the software is actually quite bad, and it's not improving at a reasonable pace, and it's not competitive. Affinity is an *objectively superior product* in most respects. Yes, it's missing some things, but everything it does, it does better. Adobe is far behind and for what they are offering they are vastly overcharging. Adobe's software is bloated, slow, buggy, and they are very piss poor at keeping it updated on all platforms.
And actually worse than all of that is the support, they have some of the most absolutely worthless support ever. The app broke on my PC once and their support connected to my PC and proceeded to completely fuck up my entire OS. I had to reinstall everything (and it still didn't fix the issue... that's when I broke up with Adobe for good).
Also trying to say that a $50 software leaves you with the same problem as a $1000 software in not wanting to update is incredibly silly imo. When the full price of the software is less than one month, that cannot reasonably be considered as a con. Not to mention that "problem" is a problem for the developer, not the user. If the old software works there's no reason to update.
This isn't a "might be cheaper" situation. Basically for the price of 2 months sub, you can have all the design tools *forever*. If you also edit video, you could look at using Davinci Resolve which is completely free and professional grade (or get the upgraded version that most won't even need for the price of another 4 months of service, you're still way ahead after just half a year). It's not even remotely comparable in terms of budget comparing Adobe to non-Adobe.
Also, XD is great, it's an amazing tool, that team is doing a great job and almost acting like a completely different company. However, that app is free. There's no need to pay a dime for it.
I just don't like how it's not a one time purchase, more people would buy it if they could just get it once
I’m done with adobe. The bundle are not that synchronised. And it’s way expensive.
➡ Google has great cloud storage. Free 40GB. Therefore, cloud storage and the presence of many programs are not an argument for the subscription model. Ordinary software like Photoshop or Illustrator is installed on a local computer and does not require anything else to work. Perhaps only sometimes updates with bug fixes by the company itself, which they are required to do for free. So the subscription model cannot be applied to such software. This is not SaaS to constantly consume company resources and pay for it. That's why people hate the subscription model for standalone software.
$1000 per year isn't a lot if you're making decent income from your gigs to be honest. I grew up using photoshop and have never paid for it, the whole suite actually but for the first time I'm actually not gonna use a pirate version. I'm gonna pay an annual subscription using student discount... I'm using sketch atm because my school wanted us too but playing around in XD, I prefer it and after my course is over I'll probably stick to XD. Sketch is cheap though, $99 is really a steal.
Here's the main problem, it used to be a "professional" program...
Now everyone has access to it deadening it's value.....i
I'm a graphic designer turned to a hobby.....
I feel bad for the photographer profession.
But I guess Adobe needs that revenue stream
I’m a student and I only pay £16 a month for creative cloud
Lol I only pay $6.50 of creative cloud and I am a grade school student not a college student.
Broski that’s still too much 😓 if it was even cheaper than that like 8 quid a month then that’s manageable ... even better if you could just by the full version and without paying monthly it makes sense init
I can honestly think of NO design task that can't make you less than the monthy subscripton in a DAY. A single logo at the very bottom of the price scale should earn you $100+. Working a menial job for the lowest possible salary should earn you the subscription in a day. Compared to the benefit you get, the price is minuscule. Compare Adobe CC with programs like V-ray that cost €629/per year, or my legal copy of FontLab that cost me about $450. It's not how much the tool costs, it's the skill. If skill could be taken in the form of a pill and bam! - you know your stuff and are fully employable, people would crawl through sewer pipes to get it. If you can't earn good money with graphic design, wherever on the world you live, it's not the tools that are the problem.
I feel like it e Easier to use because so many people use it so there's more RUclips videos on how to butter this pricing
I don't think affinity photo should be compared to photoshop. they are so different serve different purposes. an affinity employee even said that they weren't trying to make a photoshop alternative. they were just making a new app
This video is purely for people who are mainly or exclusively image-makers. The presenter assumes - wrongly - that all designers are image manipulators. He ignores graphic designers whose main tool is InDesign, who mainly use typography or are placing into layouts images made by others. In other words, he ignores most designers, full stop.
As far as Adobe's subscription goes, this is pricing out of the market many small businesses and sole traders. Appalling.
I am turned off by the fact that you can't remove your credit card on Adobe.
Adobe is very cheap in Turkey. If you choose Turkey as the plan, you can get it for 70% cheaper. Currently Adobe CC is $10/Month.
Although it's easy to knock Adobe as the 800 lb gorilla, what people tend to forget is that with a Creative Cloud subscription not only do you get full access to all industry-leading products and services, but every few months these products are being updated and improved. XD is a good example, as Ran explained. For smaller freelancers the Affinity products might suffice, but if you're hired by a medium to large company you'll need to be comfortable with Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, Acrobat, After Effects, Premiere Pro, etc.
yeah it's an expensive subscription, but right now I am getting the student discount so 19.99 and that is a fine fee to pay
Unfortunately, it becomes $30 a month after one year with the student discount.
I'd bail on Adobe if there was a decent equivalent to After Effects.
Have you tried DaVinci?
If you’re a Mac user then check out Apple motion 5 - it’s surprisingly good
Cavelry is a new software an in beta. Its still very incomplete but looks very simmilar to AE amd they claim it will be better than AE. Hopefully in a future cavelry will compete with AE.
Try DaVinci Resolve and your problem is Resolved
@@sadatnafis2032 Davinci is I believe good Premier replacement, adobe after effects right now does not have a good competitor. Also tutorials and resources on after effects helps out a lot too.
Update please
Oh my lord bless my heart I had to literally beg the customer agent to cancel my plan even tried to pay the person to cancel the plan but then threatened me with double the price of one month of subscription to adobe creative cloud to cancel it on top of already just paying for the one month of Adobe then 'reduced' the fee to one month of adobe to cancel on top of the one month subscription I just bought. Adobe business practices are terrible and unethical. Look else where for creation software ESPECIALLY if you're just trying to play around with some art like me.
When you go to your auto mechanic or carpenter or plumber for help they have tools. They usually purchased the tools. Stop complaining about needing free or cheap tools. Don't be a cheapskate or a thief. Buy your tools. Software developers don't work for free.
You miss the point, the issue is never about being a spoiled cheapskate who wants everything to be free. It's all about them sucking your wallet dry while still not owning the tools you've been paying for.
They should do what Fusion 360 do. Free for education and hobbits and cost money for pros and businesses making $100k + a year. The cost hurts the people that want to learn it. Put the cost on those that can afford it.
This is just common sense.
I don't understand why people are against a subscription, it's the best model.
It's like saying to Netflix that you'd rather pay to watch every movie or series, instead of paying a monthly subscription to get them all in one place.
The difference is the pricing model. Netflix don't charge you $30 a month for just one series. With Adobe's model you need to pay $30 for each series you want to watch.
So it's the pricing model that is the issue. I only want to use two Adobe products and I don't want to pay for all of them. For those two I have to pay like $50 a month.
In my opinion, Adobe get a hit in the short-time range as you get the kind of cheap price at the moment, they sell their stuff at many ranges, pros, years, students, but I feel like they are leading a consumerist ideology behind which is something I can´t stand. Why is this?, because at the long-time it would be more expensive than a full price own software, about 2-3 years of service, takes more money and Adobe CC is about 6-7 years old. The more shit their add on software, the heavier gets for your RAM, nowadays a computer from 2016 could have some slowish run with a CC2020-2021 version. But well, you could argue thet you buy adobe shit for living, you work so hard and you are a bussines king that undoubtedly you can pay your water and electricity bill along your software bill along a newer top notch computer to keep working, but this is the problem, if you do not have the latest or at least enough your magical work flow will not be that good. You can try to play smart, but there always is that felling of need more money to solve your problems buying stuff.
They could put it 1500€ for example, give one month's free try and put the option we can buy it by monthly invoice. I will never buy it even if all is 10€.
Cracked versions are doing me just fine and dandy :)...RENTING software lol...no thanks
I bought affinity photo…….and I hated it!!!!!! It’s kinda confusing
Lol I am paying $6.50 for the full creative cloud suite.
How? 😱
@@bogyayb Well I have a student discount which brings it down to 20 dollars a month. I then found a discount which offers 65% off for year bringing it down to 13 dollars. I then split the cost with my best friend bringing it $6.50. I then called costumer service to cancel and got 4 month free (nov-feb).
I didn't know there were a cancellation fee. UGH.
wohooooo
Please do not do fake news. Affinity does not have yearly upgrade fees.
Sorry if I was incorrect - affinity offers lifetime of updates with the single purchase?
@@FluxAcademy I have purchased Designer when it launched several years ago on Mac and Photo a year ago. Past Black Friday I've purchased Designer for Windows as well for convenience.
No additional costs so far for any of the products.
Hopefully it will stay that way.
In comparison, I have already paid for 2 annual upgrades for Sketch.
Congrats on the content!
When you buy an affinity license you are buying the license for one major release. This means that until they'll release the 2.x you will be covered. The development time is not specified (As far as I know) but looking at the previous releases I can say that between one major release and the other may pass two or three years.
My experience so far with. Adobe sucks 😅 The program has been trash thanks for the advice
Yes , I agree with everything said here. In fact, if you’re even wondering about purchasing Adobe , that says to me that you’re a junior designer. Another important thing to note is that you need to know the software that is leading the market so you can work with teams/agency’s. Telling an Agency that you’ll give them Affinity Designer files ain’t gonna fly. (Also, you forgot to mention After Effects :)
Affinity Designer can use .psd as a working file!
Adobe is overpriced and a rip off. They charge like NZ$40/month!! CyberLink Power Director I pay a ONE OFF lifetime use of NZ$100 for their editing software or, their monthly subscription deal is only NZ$10/Month. Oooo
There are no pros to subscriptions, the only "pro" here is adobe gets away with overcharging for a product.
Its important to emphysize Adobe XD its FREE...
playing the repeater on yourself
Your throwing your money away, if you buy a subscription... Best to buy a standalone, product, it's the same as the subscription...
Mortgage / Rent = subscription
Rent = subscription
Mobile = subscription
Internet = subscription
Tax = subscription (on pay, on car, on food)
RUclips = subscribe model
I'll pay $1000 one time buy.
"Make 6 figures as a freelance designer" - casually throw that humblebrag in there...