@@poiuy72997I’ve been hauled in on armed bank robbery charges. I got off. They got the guy months later. Luck or skill on my part, I’ll probably never know.
@@arya6085 Not without a lawyer you shouldn't. That's how you get a max sentence for whatever you did wrong. Get a lawyer and have them negotiate a guilty plea if that's the route you wanna go. Never deal with the legal system without protection.
Because detective Chamberlain is not very bright or socially smooth enough for the job he's been given. He thinks that if he takes the fake attitude that he is working to clear the perps' name the perp will be at ease but it is so phony I don't know how drug-addled someone would have to be to buy it, especially a police captain.
True. Every one of these interrogation videos states that everything a person does is a sign of guilt. "Oh look, he/she blinked eyes. Definitely guilty. Oh, he breathed in, then out. An innocent person would have breathed out, then in."
Just as a side note, one thing I hate is that anyone who decides to use their right to remain silent is automatically judged and seen as "hiding something". Staying silent (especially if you do not know what it is about) is always the right decision. If I were ever to be questioned like this without having done anything wrong then I would certainly remain silent. Talking can only backfire, many innocent people have even been tricked into giving false confessions which is completely mad. There is a reason why lawyers exist.
Agreed!! And in addition to that, the tactics they used were downright insulting...especially since he was a cop himself. These were the same procedures he uses in his interrogations, and they were so obvious. Finally, the Good Cop Bad Cop Routine at the end with the female Cordero. "I really care about you...if not, I would still be here." OMG...yeah, right, Officer!! I was cringing it was so text book! On a side note, I found the title of this vid very, and purposefully, misleading. "A Cop Realizes He's Going To Jail For Life." I'm sure I was not the only one when clicked it hoping (EXPECTING) to see something to the effect of a cop realizing, on tape, hopefully aghast, when he learn his fate. The cop couldn't have been more calm with no appearance he realized anything. lol
Yeah, correct. I mean in this instance he was absolutely accountable for some heinous stuff, but police are there to incriminate and persecute you, not help you. The wisest thing to do always, even if you're one hundred percent innocent, is abstain from speaking to investigators until you have a lawyer present. They're not your 'buddy', don't buy anything they sell you.
I was thinking of a way he could've got out of this . When he shot that guy , he should've called the police as he was speeding away saying , " Help , .my friend and I were parked talking and somebody started shooting at us " ! " " I think my friend got hit "? " Shit , I hit the gas and got hell outta there" ! I think it's maybe plausible lol .
@@-Subtle- Overturning a conviction doesn't prove innocence. Our justice system is designed to have a very high bar that must be met before conviction. I'd like to believe those prisoners were actually innocent all along, but there are many guilty people that walk free because of a "reasonable doubt."
@@-Subtle- Exonerated does not necessarily mean innocent. It just means the prosecutor messed up somewhere along the line to cast doubt on the case. They could still be 100% guilty.
@@wsol80 it always come to the questions: are you willing to put in jail 10 innocent people to prevent 10 guilty one roam free? or do you prefer to let 10 guilty go, to prevent 10 innocent end up in prison?
@@tea4223 I right? They had matched his DNA to a previous murder. If they suspected anything they had the right to come back and question him. He doesn’t have a lawyer. He is a private citizen with no legal representation and he’s under suspicion of murder. Screw his rights. They can ask him anything they want. And what was the outcome? He is a murderer.
Yess I don't know why this video is lowkey making it seem like he's doing something wrong and just making excuses when he's doing that, NOBODY should talk without lawyer, ever. Especially if you're innocent, he isn't ofc but in general
@@Johnboysmudge ; People who are not guilty of a crime should also remain silent because they may become a suspect, and everything they say can and will be used against them in a court of law. The right to remain silent protects the non-guilty.
I understood why he was staying silent, but I was confused why he didn't ask for a lawyer for so long. This was because HE was deliberately trying to extend the interview. He wanted to find out what sort of evidence they had against him. He knew the longer he sat there and said nothing, the more THEY would talk and the more THEY would divulge. The interrogation techniques employed by these two detectives were pretty amateurish.
What i don’t get is he’s a cop. He *knows* he can find out what they know through discovery, and he knows interrogation. The only reason i can think of is the old axiom ‘criminals are stupid. That’s why they’re criminals.’
Well hes a cop not a dumb criminal he knows the system an whats the best choice he could think obviously is not talk even with the best detectives if a guy dont wanna talk you wont make em WAAAAAAA hes not a dumbass criminal, you cant make someone who knows some of what you know about the system how you gonna use that against em,
Dude's a genius. Stayed silent but answered mundane questions that didn't provide anything. They used every trick in the book--chat personally with a female detective, bringing up his family/loved ones, instilling fear by telling him they knew his movements, etc. And didn't ask for a lawyer till he was comfortable gauging how much they had on him
Ex cop: *doesn't answer questions* Dr. Insanity: "His experience as a police officer made him a cunning criminal mastermind who expertly misdirected the detectives."
He never tried to escape. He was verifying that the door was locked. This demonstrated beyond a doubt that he was being detained, and that the interview could never be misrepresented in court as a non-custodial or voluntary interview.
This sounds like something a left winger would say. I suppose you want to defund the police too? Oh all the crime in my city, I can't tolerate it! Where are the police!
You clearly don’t know anything about the mafia lmao, and he was chief of police of a town of 400, I’ve seen town drunks be the mayor or chief of police in towns like that.
@Kronos I don't think anyone on this thread would be upset if this guy confessed, but the subject here is what is a citizen's best option when dealing with police.
@Kronos Defense attorneys don't know that. You STILL get an attorney first. It could allow you to get a better deal if you must confess. Not speaking is not the same as lying. And anything you say, even innocently that turns out to be inaccurate, or just plain wrong will be presented to a jury as a lie. Example, my wife is very good at remembering names and faces - I am not. It was not uncommon for her to say something like, "I ran into Jo Blow at the store today - he says hi." and I might say, "Who? I don't know any Joe Blow." and she might say, "Sure you do! We were all on the same softball team a few years ago - he played 3rd base." Do that with a cop who knows, or finds out that you were on the same team, and the jury sees you as a liar. Morally, it would be nice if all defendants, after getting a lawyer to be sure they get fair treatment would confess. But from a practical standpoint, we have an adversarial system for a reason - to protect the innocent. Remember, cops can lie in an interrogation, and you don't know what they have or don't have on you - they might not have squat. But they can tell you that they have an eyewitness that they do not have - they can tell you they have physical evidence that they don't have - or maybe they do - you don't know, so your best bet is always to shut up.
Since police officers typically have to have clean criminal records to be hired, collecting their DNA and checking it against cold cases should be part of the hiring process.
It's a government job like lots of others. If you hold police to that standard, than every other government employee should be forced to give DNA so it can be checked.
@@commonsense31Unfortunately he did not ask for a lawyer or specifically assert his 5th amendment rights. Oopsie on his part. You have to specifically declare those things or they don't count.
@@brockn7878on the contract he did multiple times specifically invoke his right to remain silent. All he had to do was say he was not going to answer any further questions and that he was going to remain silent. Which is what he did multiple times the police committed multiple Miranda violations in that interview.
I know in the beginning he didn't specifically ask for a lawyer but invoked his right to remain silent. Shouldn't they have stopped questioning him? I know he did ask for a lawyer later.
Even if you're innocent, always remain silent. Let's say you forgot you went to the store. You tell the cops you were home all day. They find out your cell phone pinged a tower near the crime scene. Remain silent, ask for an attorney.
You can't remain silent and ask for an attorney at the same time, stupid. Just remain silent, because no one's getting you an attorney until after you're charged anyway.
@@andrewcampbell3314 If they're going to lock you up, then they will lock you up. Talking to them might convince them to lock you up when they were otherwise going to let you go for lack of evidence, but it is pretty much impossible to talk them out of locking you up once they have decided to do so.
@@williamdowling7718not at all. The job is to find and prosecute the correct suspect. Nobodies out there just trying to get confessions from innocent people.
Yep. I've watched a lot of true crime. Innocent or guilty, ask for a lawyer and shut up. If you're not under arrest, leave. Why do you need a lawyer if you're innocent? Because it's not a justice system, it's a legal system.
@realemonful Oh, I know they do. I've been the victim of having my civil rights violated by a dumbass cop who not only illegally searched me, but also claimed he read me my rights to use a statement I made way before I was arrested as evidence.
It appears you have no clue how rights work do you? Not much of a surprise, as I am betting you have never been accused of being an intelligent person.
@boinsane7362 he asked for attorney only after trying to pretend for hours that he is “cooperative”, just in case they have almost nothing on him. He wanted to “remain silent” AND pretend he didn’t need an attorney, wanted his cake and eat it too. As a detective, he knew 100 that he could ask for attorney at any time, even before he was mirandized, and stop all interrogation.
And he wasn't even trying to escape, he was gathering information about his own situation. He's a cop. If it's locked, he knows he's fkd (he won't be allowed to leave).
he would have immediately been arrested. he was hoping being a brother cop he could talk his way out of it, once he realized it would not happen then he asked for the lawyer
Someone mentioned him trying to find out more about the evidence and wanting the detectives to talk more to find out how much proof they got.. so it was to maybe see how safe he would be
I'm just under 6 minutes in and both the narrator and the detective are showing the reasons why the RIGHT to remain silent exists. Whether the suspect is innocent or not they still get treated like criminals for exercising their Miranda rights. It's not a privilege it's a right.
He’s a detective, who knows with every fiber of his being that he can ask for an attorney, in addition to being told he can do so. He was the one gaming the system by choosing to remain silent while NOT asking for an attorney, to maintain the “idea” that he is being “cooperative”. No sympathy at all for this murderer.
that is stupid in my opinion . in what world being uncooperative is good for every party involved . using the right to remain silent always harms one party . I think it should be split into two different rights , the right of not knowing ( a person can not be jugged for not knowing or forgetting something ) , and right* to distrust ( can forgiven /cleared of lying / withholding information for the police if you can give probable( in eye's of jury ) to distrust the police officers / station / county using precedent or examples from news / local stories ) with the troubled and terrible track record of USA police the right to distrust ought to be more powerful than the right to remain silent is currently . Not helping uphold laws should not be encouraged but should not be illegal for most crimes . if I was a judge and accused is with holding information about homicide while not being able to give any example to distrust local police , then and only then I ( as a judge) would give the accused 6 months maximum prison sentence.
Here is some advice from a lawyer - Invoke your right to remain silent AND ask for an attorney. Once either is requested, the interrogation should be stopped immediately. Watching this, it feels like the detectives are violating his rights. He may be guilty, but the police have a duty to uphold the constitution.
He didn’t ask for a lawyer He didn’t want to speak but was dragging things on because he wants learn as much information as possible and see what the detectives know The moment he explicitly requests a lawyer he may go to jail depending on what evidence they have or he may be free to go he is just being the smartest he can
Even if you know you are innocent, do not talk to police without a lawyer present. This is coming from a cop. People who are innocent can miss a tiny detail that makes them look like they are lying or puts them at the scene when they said they weren't. Get a damn lawyer and protect yourself. Miranda warnings are telling you your rights, NOT telling you that you must talk to cops. 🤷♂️
@@Harkeilla if anything you say can be twisted to implicate you in a crime when the police have no evidence and can not hold you without charging you. Don’t put yourself in a position where you need to prove that you are innocent.
"He's just using this as an excuse not to talk." You could not be more wrong, Dr Insanity. The accused has a Constitutional right to silence. In fact, no-one should talk to the police as they do not have your best interest at heart.
Well, of course, people *do* use the right to remain silent as an excuse not to talk. That said, anyone innocent should certainly remain silent. 30% of people falsely convicted for capital crimes are convicted based on nothing but confessions. It sounds crazy, but people do confess to crimes they never committed, especially if the suspects have mental illnesses.
If you have evidence that someone committed a crime, then you should tell the police about it, because its the right thing to do. You shouldn't let the world burn around you just to slightly reduce your risk of being arrested.
@@Jimraynor45 there's a big difference between coming forward with information helpful to an investigation, and being questioned by the police. A world of difference in fact. If you're being questioned, even if you have "helpful" information that you think could exonerate you, KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT. Ask for an attorney, tell YOUR attorney the information and then FOLLOW HIS/HER ADVICE. Or you can just open your mouth and risk ending up as another innocent person that was put in jail because they talked to the cops. The problem with your reasoning is that it is principled. Police work is not. It should be, but it isn't.
@@Jimraynor45 If I have evidence, MY LAWYER can hand it to the police. Or not. The KEY difference is that my lawyer's job is to protect me, and a police officer's job is to destroy me. Police are not your friends, but they are legally permitted to pretend to be your friends, lie about what they're going to do, and just about anything else if it helps them destroy you. That's the way the system works.
I was convinced, based on the title, that the cop was going to confess. Instead, he held firm, and he was convicted on evidence independent of anything he said. Rather than be impressed by these interrogation techniques, I cannot help but think of all the people who were innocent, but were tricked into lying or even confessing -- or who confess, just to get the interrogation over with -- by the police.
Exactly. Even though Grant is guilty, he knows damn well the manipulative techniques the police use and knows the smart thing to do is not talk. This video is showing how every person should behave.
_"he was convicted on evidence independent of anything he said."_ EXCEPT . . According to the narrator (17:27), he wasn't *_CONVICTED_* on other evidence, he *_PLEADED OUT_* to First Degree Murder.
@An0n3mu55 > *Bullshit. I would rather have a few innocent people go to the jail or the gallows, than have thousands of guilty people walking the streets* You know... once someone goes to the gallows, or otherwise is executeed, they're dead, right? Please, tell me you're not going into law enforcement, or lawmaking, you seem like you'd be pretty terrible at it.
@@தமிழோன் You'd be surprised how often that isn't the case. Even then I'll take my chances. If you say nothing to the police they have to do all the work. Don't do the work for them. Admit nothing. The rules of court and evidence are against you as well. Did you know that in the American court system a police office can testify to anything you said that will incriminate you, but cannot testify to anything you say that exonerates you. That is considered hearsay. So literally their is NEVER any reason to talk to the police. all you can do is hurt yourself.
There is a great video of a law professor explaining in depth why you never never ever talk to the cops. Even if you are 100% innocent you do not talk to them. It is a unfortunate reality that most police and prosecutors do not care if they catch the true criminal or not they just need to take someone to trial. If they can railroad an innocent person and get them convicted then they will.
This is a great video for detectives to see how you get a case thrown out because you consistently and deliberately ignored the suspect’s Constitutional right to remain silent.
Most police/prosecutors would far rather catch the right person. Some are just so eager to do so they'll unintentionally railroad an innocent person in the process.
I've been in that room, and I've walk out. They are not your friends, deny everything no matter what they think they have, give them nothing. If they actually have something on you, you would already be in a cell.
I always talk to police when they talk to me. I have nothing to hide and cooperate. Cooperating makes things easier on you. . . By not cooperating, you are basically saying you are guilty of something.
Grant did exactly what every person should do. Don't say anything until you have consulted with a lawyer. The detectives tried to use the typical manipulative techniques, the same they use whether the suspect is guilty or not. Everyone be like Grant when interviewed, ask for a lawyer, and that should be the only thing you say. Remember, if the hold you against your right, you get your free pay day when you sue them for wrongful holding.
It's interesting how many criminals watch these videos to learn what to do and what not to do during interrogations and then advise other criminals lol
@@woodysanimationsIt's probably because of cases like ryan waller. Me, personally I don't hate or dislike interrogators but I don't trust them. Outside of interrogation, I have high respect for law enforcers
Pikachu ( Pokémon) isn’t even a child show, all anime characters and shows aren’t for children. Just like how there is RUclips kids for KIDS but they still watch regular RUclips. Your statment is invalid
"I'm honestly here to help you." It amazes me that cops say that to people they are interrogating when they know the suspect knows that's a bald faced lie.
A lawyer told me that it was generally a stupid idea to speak to a police officer if there was even the slightest possibility that I had made myself a criminal offence. And that's what I would always do. You can still express yourself through a lawyer.
@michellecraigmiles670 doesn't matter. Always know how to protect yourself in all ways, not just physical confrontations or fights which you can heal from. Being ganged up on and having police pin a murder on you you might not recover from.
It's funny, the cops always say "I want to help you, I can help you". Reality is they couldn't care less about you or what happens to you after you leave that interrogation room.
If the suspect gets emotional or angry, he suffers for it. Having to remain in the chair. If the interrogator gets emotional or angry, he gets to leave the room and have a breather. It is inhumane, regardless of how bad the accusations are. Interrogators deserve prison time. The video is karma in the good way.
Exactly, and shocking thing is we expect a great deal out of these liars on the streets but these are same people who lie in this room. Many innocent have been fooled/framed in this room by these liars. weird world.
@Mainely cops are civillians and citizens, the fact that they refer to others is point blank proof they have built a cult where they larp being in a warzone.
This is an important lesson for everyone: never engage in conversation with the police without the presence of your lawyer. In addition to exercising your right to remain silent, it is crucial to request legal representation immediately.
Know who has the most to worry about if police are interviewing them? The innocent person. Brian Kohberger and a dozen police interviews of other police show that even people who are trained to know better are terrible criminals. The innocent person has everything to lose. The guilty one usually left enough evidence that then answering questions is irrelevant.
He was well within his rights to not answer their questions. The male detective didn’t even realize the subconscious slip he made early on: “I just need to rule you out INTO something…” Talking is NEVER going to help you, innocent or guilty. If they have you in that room with that setup, they think you’re at least possibly guilty of something. Every defense attorney worth their salt will tell you to invoke your right to remain silent and then DO IT! Talking just gives you more chances to say something wrong, or mis-remember a small detail, and then they’ll want to pounce on that. This is a cop and they are trying to railroad him, knowing he likely knows all the tricks. Imagine the average citizen in such a situation; they’d have diarrhea of the mouth to try & talk their way out of there.
Can you imagine waking up one day and finding out your police chief father/husband is a murderer AND and rapist to top it off? I really feel for his family and the mental stress they probably are going through. I mean it's real easy not being a total monster if you just. . . like. . . . don't hurt people.
"I just don't know what caused the incident. And if I don't know that, I gotta assume the worst." Ah yes, the pillar that our justice system is built upon. Guilty until proven innocent. Classic.
they know it was him that killed the driver, they were saying that to give him an out on a lesser charge like manslaughter in order to coerce a confession.
@MineCraftGuyThing Innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT OF LAW. The police however can use certain psychological strategies to get suspects to talk.
@@brianbagnall3029I d argue just the opposite, if you're a violent criminal why not join up with the organization that routinely gets away with violent crime in the name of stopping that exact thing?
@@brianbagnall3029 The Milwaukee police department was one of the toughest in the nation, for decades. That was no accident. They had a 100 Officer unit called the Tactical Squad. Those were hand picked officers who rode 3 to an unmarked car. They wore blue jackets and had the freedom to patrol where ever they wanted. They were mostly 6+ feet tall and tough as cops come. I witnessed a fight in a sub sandwich store between two guys one night and a Tactical Squad Unit pulled up to the store. The officers never exited the car. The two guys fighting saw them, and stopped fighting. Those two guys knew if those cops exited the car, their pain level that night would be on a scale they never had experienced.
I know a personal care assistant who lied about her work hours, got caught. She got fired from her company and is banned from that career forever because she said she worked a few days she didn't. These cops commit egregious crimes, get suspended or fired, they can just apply somewhere else and do it again, its an absolute joke how unserious we are about these crucially important jobs.
What part of “I choose to remain silent” is he not understanding? Conversely, that detective is abusing his legal authority by not releasing for lack of evidence.
I was framed for SA once and was only validated by the fact i had badged into my office during the time they claimed it happened (literally they said it happened at 9 AM and I had badged the door at 8:55). Cops were absolutely convinced i did it and i probably looked like this guy. cops were pissed the whole time bcuz the girl was pretty injured. I had no idea what was happening for most of them trying to get me to talk. I got my lawyer and found out it was my EX who claims i SA'd her and then beat her really bad. The beating her sadly was her current boyfriend and the SA was never confirmed to be anyone. She just wanted me to go to jail bcuz she was mad i left her for cheating on me with this new guy, who turned out to be abusive after she moved in with him.
they tried to frame me for a dui in 2003. I had it thrown out of court and won my DMV hearing. Cop told numerous lies in the police report. Only because I was able to get a copy of the dash cam video, and have my blood sample retested by a lab not on a first name basis with the cop, was I able to win. I talked way too much, didn't know better back then. Now I would never say anything.
Obviously he’s guilty, and I in no way support him. But he was absolutely correct to remain silent in interview and ask for a Lawyer. This doesn’t make him any more guilty, and it’s good he chose to exercise that right.
@@Gwazi Because not everyone that gets interrogated turns out to be guilty. False arrests happen often. The police usually just wants to finish as quickly as possible.
The interrogators weren't going to get shit from him. >"I like TV, do you like TV?" >"Great, so do you want to tell us what crime you committed today?" smh idiots
@@Gwazi Even if you are guilty, a lawyer will help you to not dig a deeper hole and perhaps be able to get you a deal to admit guilt. Do bad people go free over lack of evidence? Of course, but that's just how it is. Any other way would see more innocent individuals claiming guilt because being stuck in a room for hours with little food or water is exhausting, especially while some trained professional is trying to get you to doubt yourself at every turn.
Only correct if you're guilty and you have nothing to lose. If you're innocent, you need to tell the cops so they can corroborate or use that information to verify your account, or you are presenting undermining evidence. Advisable to still get a lawyer so they can help you articulate it. If you go silent, the cops may be forced to charge you to let a court decide, given you're not disputing any evidence!
More scary is that he murdered somebody and raped another woman and his sentence was only for 35 years.......In other cases when for example 3 people kill a person, they all usually get imprisoned for life....
Just remember this: If you were mistakenly or maliciously "positively identified" as a murderer, law enforcement will immediately stop looking for the real killer and put all of their focus on making the known facts of the case fit around you as the culprit through the use of interrogation methods just like these. Prisons are full of people who thought talking to a cop would clear up any doubt that they were innocent, when in realitythe cop interrogating them is building his case using their own words against them.
As soon as you are read your Miranda rights is only one thing to do; specifically ask for a lawyer to end questioning and remain silent. Innocent or guilty. If you are innocent then anything you say can still be used or intepreted in a negative light. If the officer thinks you didn't do anything, they cannot testify to that. If he thinks anything was suspicious such as body language, tone, posture etc they can testify to that. Its a lose/lose situation.
As a retired investigator, I always respected the ones who did not talk and asked for their lawyer. It’s what I would do in that circumstance. Using your rights does not make you appear guilty. Maybe some feel that way, but that’s not true. In truth normally the guilty ones are the ones who talk. They think being helpful will make them look innocent. The Reed Technique is just another tool to use and should not be the only style of dialogue used. This investigator is 🤦♀️ imo. Getting a confession is helpful but never necessary if you have the evidence to back up the charges.
When people in their comments state they had some profession related to the comment, then I always wonder why. Do you think your comment is perceived more important this way? If you were really what you say, then I just can't imagine why you find the need to state your opinion, let alone mentioning your background. That is why I think that in 99% of the cases the commenter is just lying and seeking the need to make him/her self look more important.
@@computerjantje More important no. More experience than someone who has no training in the field, yes. It’s that experience that forms the opinion. Many people have the wrong ideas on how things work. So, when someone who does know tries to explain and does not list their experience people come back with the same kind of nonsense you posted. You can’t win for losing it appears. If my comment did not help you then move on. It was written to help people understand how information should be obtained.
I'm not really on this guy side , but it's his right. Whether you guilty or not , always ask for a lawyer. Even if you are innocent , when you talking , police can put you inside for literally anything.
especially when the cops don't have anything and need something to go on,,a start to build off of they always play the suspect for a fool. just shut up and ask for a lawyer to help guide you through a tricky time.
Yep,he never asked for a lawyer till later....he just said he wants to remain silent.He should have just said "I want a lawyer"...and they would of stopped in the beginning.
I did NOT see that last bit coming. This is the first time I have come to this channel and the way you presented the video and then what he did 20 years prior, well done sir, you hit the suspense button just at the right time.
Some of them may not be monsters at the time. Its not a huge stretch to imagine that some of the things police have to deal with will have an effect on them down the road. Just like corrupt cops. If you're around that shit all the time, it might start to influence you.
hahahaha....they need the psychos to the be psychos so that police forces, as a whole, can still perform their primary duty, which is to protect private property and very often, that involves brutalizing populace when she goes down. Most ppl with consciences are not cool with brutalizing their fellow man, American police seem to love it.
Any lawyer will tell you, nothing you say to police can help your case. They're gathering evidence, not trying to rule you out. Innocent or guilty, having a lawyer present can in no way hinder your case.
I know someone who was sent to prison with a sentence of 28 years just for defending himself against a group of teenagers carrying knives & clubs, but this man only got 35 years, the law system is literally F****ed head over heels.
With over a million people in prison in America, you expect that each of these people would be assigned a depravity score to eight digits accuracy, sorted into ascending order, and then given correspondingly more severe sentences, without a single inmate A being more depraved than some other inmate B who got a shorter sentence-otherwise the entire system is faffed head over heals. Let me fill in "just for defending himself". I can picture the whole thing, near enough. Here's one version. He chose the highly effective tactic of grabbing the first and scariest juvenile who got near to him, spun him around into a choke hold, told the rest of the crowd to back off or he would strangle his "assailant" to death, they dithered slightly so as not to look weak causing the choke hold to go on for quite a while. After they finally backed off and he released his grip, the juvenile had: A) a broken neck; B) brain damage; or C) took the Floyd George exit from the land of the breathing. He argued in court that fighting one against many, there's no margin for Mr Nice Guy, you have to go to maximum escalation while you still can. Then it turns out he had hissed the n-word at one of them before they got hostile, and it was recorded on film, along with the entirely predictable consequences. At which point the judge concluded he was "just" defending himself from a situation he had deliberated provoked by leaving one of them in a lifeless heap, and given that he had a brief former career in the MMA-making him _far_ from defenseless enough to justify such a radical first move, the whole situation smelled more like race-baiting than youth mob violence. Perhaps he also had priors, establishing a behaviour pattern of "who, me?" in the aftermath of someone else winding up in an ambulance or a morgue.
@@afterthesmash Bro, if teens are carrying knives and clubs and are about to stab you and beat you, there is no reason the victim should never be allowed to defend himself. Simple as that.
I absolutely loved seeing those interrogators get frustrated. They're so used to being able to bully people into talking they had no clue how to handle it.
That’s not true. I’m a lawyer. Police can charge you with zero evidence if they want to. That’s their power. To CONVICT you the DA either needs your confession, a blind plea, or to convince a jury. That’s what the interrogations are for. A home run for the detective is to get a confession, but the secondary objective is to use your words against you in court to build a strong enough case to almost guarantee a CONVICTION against you. They can charge anybody at any time with as little evidence as they want. Still has to go to court. But that means dirt without a conviction. It doesn’t even matter if you’re innocent. A man was just released after 20+ years in prison for the rape of his 6 year old daughter at the time. The daughter herself wrote to the courts over 100 times for 20 years straight saying that he was innocent and they still kept him in for all those years. If the system wants you, it’ll take you.
I remember not too long ago, you could actually type the full and complete n word and it would never ever get banned, now there's alot of words you're not allowed to say or it's automatic comment deletion
If you ask any Attorney or Police Officer…. They will ALL tell you not to ever talk without a lawyer by your side. Even though this guy wants to remain silent… he didn’t ask for a lawyer. And when the female Officer said, “I’m honestly here to help you”…. I almost choked. I’m sure the guy is guilty ….. but you should always have a lawyer
The narrative of interrogation scenes like this often makes it look like further wrongs are being committed when a suspect refuses to talk or requests a lawyer. Nothing could be further from the truth. There is NOTHING to be gained from talking to police. ANYTHING you say can and will be used against you. If you say something incriminatory, it is admissible as evidence. If you or the interrogator say something that might be exculpatory, it is considered hearsay and is inadmissible. If you lie, even inadvertently, that can be added to your charges. If the interrogator lies to you, they have immunity. It is a balance scale with several tons on the side of law enforcement and you on the other side. It is like thinking you can ultimately win in a gambling casino. The only way to "win" is to cut your losses by not playing. Did this guy deserve to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law? Of course. However, the right to avoid self-incrimination and to legal counsel/defense are fundamental to justice. I'm just surprised at how long it took him to ask for a lawyer.
Yeah, but still...this is a blatant Miranda violation. Whether he asks for a lawyer or not, he unequivocally invoked his right to remain silent. Questions intended to illicit evidence against the suspect must cease then and there.
@@daviswilliams201 You are incorrect…. You must literally request an attorney. Saying your are going to “Remain silent”… is not asking for an attorney. The detectives were probably thinking… “Okay, then we’ll keep talking anyway”.
It's crazy to me how many people truly do not understand the whole "you have the right to remain silent". Remaining silent and not answering any questions totally shuts down these interrogations. It's simple. Just keep your mouth shut and wait for a lawyer.
@@jspi04 I can't find it right now but there was one of these videos where the dude keeps telling the cops he'll talk and they take him to the room and give him a coke and he's like "i don't talk to cops, I just wanted a coke". He does it like 3 times before they get wise and they throw the whole coke away the last time.
Staying silent is the right thing to do with today's police regardless if you're certain of your innocence. Police can charge you with unrelated crimes or lying to them if you misspeak or are misunderstood.
I'm pretty sure she's fine with him being in jail, knowing he's both a rapist and a murderer. Finding out her dad is what he is, that's less easy to deal with of course.
The reason you don't let cops question you is the same reason you don't represent yourself in court. It is extremely easy to self incriminate. Even by accident. Even if you didn't do anything. Even if you are a lawyer and you know the game.
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As a taxpayer, I hate that we have to give police the benefit of doubt, when they’re human and experience all types of characteristics like being deceptive, lying, being dishonest, but because they swear to do something doesn’t mean they’ll do it. But the scale the citizens on has no room for allowances unless you’re a police
Comedian Kathleen Madigan’s father was a lawyer, and this was her nightly “bedtime story”, yelled up from the bottom of the steps… “what do you say if the cops roll up on you? I do not recall and I want an attorney”. Nuff said.
You do know Comedians tell jokes to gey a laugh, right? 😂Not saying the premise is wrong, but i highly doubt that was her goodnight every night. She used it as the source of a joke. Nuff said. 😁
Here's the thing. He's either free to go, or he isn't, and the second the officer says he is not free to go, he can invoke his rights and ask for a lawyer. They HAVE to stop talking to him. Period.
@@yazarogi its an illegal tactic in violation of the constitution. Law enforcement cannot continue interrogation after a suspect has invoked his rights.
I feel bad for his wife and daughter; imagine finding out your husband or father is a murderer and rapist, I don’t know that I’d ever recover from that trauma and breaking of trust in someone.
My parents had long time friends. After these friends had been married for 40 years, the husband was charged and found guilty of child molestation. The wife never recovered.. she just mentally slipped away and passed a few years later.
Just had one of those "Light Bulb Moments".....maybe all police officers should go into the national DNA data base as soon as they start their police training or application to be a police officer. it appears this guy might have been caught decades ago. But we wouldn't want to violate anyone's rights.
@@CaliCarolyn I agree. Any position of perceived power. I was a paramedic and there were times we had a power in controlling what was being done. So in my opinion all teachers, school admin, anyone who works with children, Fire Fighters, Professors at universities, and any position of power that can be used to control or manipulate people. Evil exist everywhere including churches.
21 years for a cold blooded murder but yet my friends dad got 16 years for selling pot 🤔 the system is broke 💯
Your friend's dad wasn't a cop in a corrupt system I guess
Your friend's dad was probably selling something he didn't tell you.
16 years for pot? I don't think so. He was doing other things and it probably wasn't his first offense.
@Josh Brobud wasn't his first rodeo but was out for a good 18 & running .. he was caught with 370 pounds but end of the day its still only weed 💯
@@omi_in_a_hellcat 370 pounds, yeah. That's more than a lid.
I said it below, but as the saying goes: If you know you're guilty, you need a lawyer. If you know you're innocent, then you definitely need a lawyer.
Guilty? Shut up and get a lawyer.
Innocent? Shut up and get a lawyer.
@@poiuy72997I’ve been hauled in on armed bank robbery charges. I got off. They got the guy months later. Luck or skill on my part, I’ll probably never know.
if youre guilty you should admit it if you have any morals
@@arya6085 Not without a lawyer you shouldn't. That's how you get a max sentence for whatever you did wrong. Get a lawyer and have them negotiate a guilty plea if that's the route you wanna go. Never deal with the legal system without protection.
@@arya6085 My guy really thinks the world is that black and white.
How can any suspect, let alone another police officer, believe a detective who says "I'm honestly here to help you"?
Because detective Chamberlain is not very bright or socially smooth enough for the job he's been given. He thinks that if he takes the fake attitude that he is working to clear the perps' name the perp will be at ease but it is so phony I don't know how drug-addled someone would have to be to buy it, especially a police captain.
I am here to help you get in jail
Especially a cop!!!
Even when you need help the last people you go to are the pigs.
@Mr Flynn I remember my friends dad was in the mob in Chicago, he told us even if your house is burning down you don't call the police!
2 minutes in “his body language says he is feeling exposed” His body: *straight chillin like a tubby*
Hahahaa
True. Every one of these interrogation videos states that everything a person does is a sign of guilt. "Oh look, he/she blinked eyes. Definitely guilty. Oh, he breathed in, then out. An innocent person would have breathed out, then in."
The JCS wannabes don't even come close to the level of JCS
Just as a side note, one thing I hate is that anyone who decides to use their right to remain silent is automatically judged and seen as "hiding something". Staying silent (especially if you do not know what it is about) is always the right decision. If I were ever to be questioned like this without having done anything wrong then I would certainly remain silent. Talking can only backfire, many innocent people have even been tricked into giving false confessions which is completely mad. There is a reason why lawyers exist.
Agreed!! And in addition to that, the tactics they used were downright insulting...especially since he was a cop himself. These were the same procedures he uses in his interrogations, and they were so obvious. Finally, the Good Cop Bad Cop Routine at the end with the female Cordero. "I really care about you...if not, I would still be here." OMG...yeah, right, Officer!! I was cringing it was so text book!
On a side note, I found the title of this vid very, and purposefully, misleading. "A Cop Realizes He's Going To Jail For Life." I'm sure I was not the only one when clicked it hoping (EXPECTING) to see something to the effect of a cop realizing, on tape, hopefully aghast, when he learn his fate. The cop couldn't have been more calm with no appearance he realized anything. lol
I did silent..I need a Lawyer..
I had a self defense case ..
And I was in Stunning Shock..
Yeah, correct. I mean in this instance he was absolutely accountable for some heinous stuff, but police are there to incriminate and persecute you, not help you. The wisest thing to do always, even if you're one hundred percent innocent, is abstain from speaking to investigators until you have a lawyer present. They're not your 'buddy', don't buy anything they sell you.
I was thinking of a way he could've got out of this . When he shot that guy , he should've called the police as he was speeding away saying , " Help , .my friend and I were parked talking and somebody started shooting at us " ! " " I think my friend got hit "? " Shit , I hit the gas and got hell outta there" !
I think it's maybe plausible lol .
@@randybonner9870 A criminal mind goes there...AI now has a record of the way you think...
"If you didn't do anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about." One of the biggest lies law enforcement will tell you.
Absolutely.
Since the 1990s 1 in 9 prisoners on death row have been exonerated.
@@-Subtle- Overturning a conviction doesn't prove innocence. Our justice system is designed to have a very high bar that must be met before conviction. I'd like to believe those prisoners were actually innocent all along, but there are many guilty people that walk free because of a "reasonable doubt."
Or the government, or your workplace, or...
@@-Subtle- Exonerated does not necessarily mean innocent. It just means the prosecutor messed up somewhere along the line to cast doubt on the case. They could still be 100% guilty.
@@wsol80 it always come to the questions: are you willing to put in jail 10 innocent people to prevent 10 guilty one roam free? or do you prefer to let 10 guilty go, to prevent 10 innocent end up in prison?
Hearing a cop say "I'm honestly here to help you" is the same as a cop pulling you over and saying "sit tight buddy", it never ends well.
They are most assuredly NOT there to help you.
Once the guy said he was going to exercise his right to remain silent, the cops had no right to come back to interview again.
Or are you arresting me ? Cop : no I'm detaining you ! Then the cuffs and always turns out. Bingo Arrested !
@@tea4223 I right? They had matched his DNA to a previous murder. If they suspected anything they had the right to come back and question him. He doesn’t have a lawyer. He is a private citizen with no legal representation and he’s under suspicion of murder. Screw his rights. They can ask him anything they want. And what was the outcome? He is a murderer.
@@tea4223 that's not true. He has to ask for a lawyer to be present. They can badger him forever until he does that.
Those "detectives" were ridiculous.
People who are not guilty of a crime should also remain silent.
Why?
100%. Lawyer up if you can afford to. Incriminating yourself is the last thing you want to do.
@@Johnboysmudge ruclips.net/video/d-7o9xYp7eE/видео.html
A former law enforcement officer explains why, after a defense attorney also explains why.
Yess I don't know why this video is lowkey making it seem like he's doing something wrong and just making excuses when he's doing that, NOBODY should talk without lawyer, ever. Especially if you're innocent, he isn't ofc but in general
@@Johnboysmudge ; People who are not guilty of a crime should also remain silent because they may become a suspect, and everything they say can and will be used against them in a court of law. The right to remain silent protects the non-guilty.
I understood why he was staying silent, but I was confused why he didn't ask for a lawyer for so long. This was because HE was deliberately trying to extend the interview. He wanted to find out what sort of evidence they had against him. He knew the longer he sat there and said nothing, the more THEY would talk and the more THEY would divulge. The interrogation techniques employed by these two detectives were pretty amateurish.
What i don’t get is he’s a cop. He *knows* he can find out what they know through discovery, and he knows interrogation. The only reason i can think of is the old axiom ‘criminals are stupid. That’s why they’re criminals.’
Nailed it
Well hes a cop not a dumb criminal he knows the system an whats the best choice he could think obviously is not talk even with the best detectives if a guy dont wanna talk you wont make em WAAAAAAA hes not a dumbass criminal, you cant make someone who knows some of what you know about the system how you gonna use that against em,
In English, this means that he is guilty of committing a crime, because he is intentionally trying to make the interrogation longer?
Dude's a genius. Stayed silent but answered mundane questions that didn't provide anything. They used every trick in the book--chat personally with a female detective, bringing up his family/loved ones, instilling fear by telling him they knew his movements, etc. And didn't ask for a lawyer till he was comfortable gauging how much they had on him
Ex cop: *doesn't answer questions*
Dr. Insanity: "His experience as a police officer made him a cunning criminal mastermind who expertly misdirected the detectives."
Well, the name "Dr. Insanity" comes from somewhere ig lol
he answered the dumbest question he couldve chosen to answer the second they sat down together so the cop clearly thought he was an idiot
@@SplendidKunoichi What question was that?
@@SplendidKunoichi what question was that?
@@SplendidKunoichi What question was that?
He never tried to escape. He was verifying that the door was locked. This demonstrated beyond a doubt that he was being detained, and that the interview could never be misrepresented in court as a non-custodial or voluntary interview.
Thank you! I won’t waste my time :)
y would he try to make sure its locked?
@@jamesjoseph1297 think about it for a little while now!!! if it still dont come to you, i will tell you lol
@@jamesjoseph1297 They literally explained why. Now it's on video that he was being detained and it wasn't voluntary.
He was trying to escape,no doubt
Imagine being fired 3 times and getting a Chief of Police job. Really tells a lot about how the mafia works.
Works pretty shit as you can see. the scumbag is under arrest for the rest of his senseless life.
You Just go to another city
even the mafia don't work like that lol
This sounds like something a left winger would say. I suppose you want to defund the police too? Oh all the crime in my city, I can't tolerate it! Where are the police!
You clearly don’t know anything about the mafia lmao, and he was chief of police of a town of 400, I’ve seen town drunks be the mayor or chief of police in towns like that.
Guilty or not, he did exactly what EVERYONE should do in an interrogation.
He did. The interrogators were pretty crap, and the uploader got it fairly wrong; dude didn't give up shit to them and was never going to.
No he didn't. He should have asked for a lawyer sooner.
@Kronos
What has that got to do with anything?
@Kronos
I don't think anyone on this thread would be upset if this guy confessed, but the subject here is what is a citizen's best option when dealing with police.
@Kronos
Defense attorneys don't know that. You STILL get an attorney first. It could allow you to get a better deal if you must confess. Not speaking is not the same as lying. And anything you say, even innocently that turns out to be inaccurate, or just plain wrong will be presented to a jury as a lie.
Example, my wife is very good at remembering names and faces - I am not. It was not uncommon for her to say something like, "I ran into Jo Blow at the store today - he says hi." and I might say, "Who? I don't know any Joe Blow." and she might say, "Sure you do! We were all on the same softball team a few years ago - he played 3rd base." Do that with a cop who knows, or finds out that you were on the same team, and the jury sees you as a liar.
Morally, it would be nice if all defendants, after getting a lawyer to be sure they get fair treatment would confess. But from a practical standpoint, we have an adversarial system for a reason - to protect the innocent.
Remember, cops can lie in an interrogation, and you don't know what they have or don't have on you - they might not have squat. But they can tell you that they have an eyewitness that they do not have - they can tell you they have physical evidence that they don't have - or maybe they do - you don't know, so your best bet is always to shut up.
The number of jobs this man was able to obtain in law enforcement is disgraceful.
The klan family
...and far too common
Internal affairs & the police union are the real “Cosa Nostra”
Maybe but it's the norm
It's almost like Law Enforcement seeks out these kind of "people".
0:17 yes grabbing the door handle is “doing everything he could to escape” 😂😂😂😂😂
The guy who narrates these things has some wild takes man.
Since police officers typically have to have clean criminal records to be hired, collecting their DNA and checking it against cold cases should be part of the hiring process.
It's a government job like lots of others. If you hold police to that standard, than every other government employee should be forced to give DNA so it can be checked.
@@BornIn1500let's do it.
@@BornIn1500 I see nothing wrong with this.
💯
yeah this was my thought too, i wonder how many cases can be cleared 0.0
I like how they read him his rights and spent the rest of the time trying to convince him to ignore them
Yeah. I don’t think they are actually allowed to push that much after he has stated he won’t say anything.
@@commonsense31Unfortunately he did not ask for a lawyer or specifically assert his 5th amendment rights.
Oopsie on his part.
You have to specifically declare those things or they don't count.
@@brockn7878on the contract he did multiple times specifically invoke his right to remain silent. All he had to do was say he was not going to answer any further questions and that he was going to remain silent. Which is what he did multiple times the police committed multiple Miranda violations in that interview.
@@LainK1978 disagree. He Never specifically said the 5th and he didnt Actually ask for a lawyer. As required.
Respectfully, you are misinformed .
I know in the beginning he didn't specifically ask for a lawyer but invoked his right to remain silent. Shouldn't they have stopped questioning him? I know he did ask for a lawyer later.
Even if you're innocent, always remain silent. Let's say you forgot you went to the store. You tell the cops you were home all day. They find out your cell phone pinged a tower near the crime scene. Remain silent, ask for an attorney.
In this situation, ion think you’ll forget you went to the store dumb***
U know exactly wtf going on
Anything you say can only hurt you ! Capiche !
In the UK you are allowed to answer ‘no comment’ to any question and to have your lawyer in the room with you when being questioned.
You can't remain silent and ask for an attorney at the same time, stupid. Just remain silent, because no one's getting you an attorney until after you're charged anyway.
can you just ask for a lawyer right away and end the interrogation?
Yes then end up in cuffs booked and locked up and waiting for legal counsel
@@andrewcampbell3314 If they're going to lock you up, then they will lock you up. Talking to them might convince them to lock you up when they were otherwise going to let you go for lack of evidence, but it is pretty much impossible to talk them out of locking you up once they have decided to do so.
Yes
"You have the right to remain silent."
"Ok, I'm remaining silent."
*Detective:* "and I took that personally"
His job is to take that personally
@@asiamies9153his job is to extract a confession in any way possible. Whether the suspect is guilty or not. The job is to get a confession.
@@williamdowling7718not at all. The job is to find and prosecute the correct suspect. Nobodies out there just trying to get confessions from innocent people.
@@JohnWicksPencil14 lol
@@williamdowling7718 about the response I expected.
The attempted manipulation by the detectives is embarrassingly obvious. It's like watching a 5th grade play.
Ask for a lawyer and shut up.
I know right!
Bro stfu it’s their jobs they are just doin what they are supposed to…
Yep. I've watched a lot of true crime. Innocent or guilty, ask for a lawyer and shut up. If you're not under arrest, leave. Why do you need a lawyer if you're innocent? Because it's not a justice system, it's a legal system.
Overrated Reid technique
@@PunguinYoga didnt they refuse to let him leave even tho i think at the time he wasnt arrested
What a twist ending, holy crap. Makes you wonder what else he might have done in those 20 years without getting caught. This guy is sick.
No seriously, and then becomes a cop… like bro wtf not only that a chief😭
Wait till you hear about what angry ducks do to their mates during mating
@@baconheadhair6938 I'm not sure I want to know 😭🤣
@@baconheadhair6938 i already know
and why wasn't his dna tested when he became a cop
Cops should not be allowed to keep pushing after you exercise your right to silence.
You have to ask for a lawyer for that.
They can and they do!
@realemonful Oh, I know they do. I've been the victim of having my civil rights violated by a dumbass cop who not only illegally searched me, but also claimed he read me my rights to use a statement I made way before I was arrested as evidence.
You can tell you a are virgin
@@davidlawler8707 another virgin prob cried in jail
"I want a lawyer" is the interrogation room safe word
pretty much. I mean once you say it their hands are tied,.
2 : I speak Mandarin 2 the cops or say nothing . 🤣. The omly time I help the cops is if they pay me🤣
It appears you have no clue how rights work do you?
Not much of a surprise, as I am betting you have never been accused of being an intelligent person.
@@sandymoonstone855 do you know other people can speak different languages?
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This guy is a good example of how to act during an interigation regardless if he was guilty.
He should have asked for the attorney first time he declined to talk, crazy to sit there for hours.
*interrogation
@boinsane7362 he should have done it the moment he walked into that room. i would. You have rights, not just to remain silent. Use them.
I was about to comment the same thing.
@boinsane7362 he asked for attorney only after trying to pretend for hours that he is “cooperative”, just in case they have almost nothing on him. He wanted to “remain silent” AND pretend he didn’t need an attorney, wanted his cake and eat it too.
As a detective, he knew 100 that he could ask for attorney at any time, even before he was mirandized, and stop all interrogation.
“He tried everything he could to escape” * tries door handle *
Ninja cop
And he wasn't even trying to escape, he was gathering information about his own situation. He's a cop. If it's locked, he knows he's fkd (he won't be allowed to leave).
Why didn't he get a lawyer from the start?
he would have immediately been arrested. he was hoping being a brother cop he could talk his way out of it, once he realized it would not happen then he asked for the lawyer
Someone mentioned him trying to find out more about the evidence and wanting the detectives to talk more to find out how much proof they got.. so it was to maybe see how safe he would be
The instant a detective says the phrase "help me, help you" it's time to lawyer up.
As soon as you are asked to come speak to detectives, call your lawyer
Any time a detective says ANYTHING, it's time to lawyer up.
"I'm honestly here to help you." LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Of course, in his case, the lawyer didn't help. Guilty as charged.
The instant a detective appears it's time to ask for a lawyer.
I'm just under 6 minutes in and both the narrator and the detective are showing the reasons why the RIGHT to remain silent exists. Whether the suspect is innocent or not they still get treated like criminals for exercising their Miranda rights. It's not a privilege it's a right.
These youtuber armchair detectives are latent fascists.
The problem is he never asked for an attorney. That would have ended the questioning instantly.
He’s a detective, who knows with every fiber of his being that he can ask for an attorney, in addition to being told he can do so.
He was the one gaming the system by choosing to remain silent while NOT asking for an attorney, to maintain the “idea” that he is being “cooperative”.
No sympathy at all for this murderer.
that is stupid in my opinion . in what world being uncooperative is good for every party involved . using the right to remain silent always harms one party .
I think it should be split into two different rights , the right of not knowing ( a person can not be jugged for not knowing or forgetting something ) , and right* to distrust ( can forgiven /cleared of lying / withholding information for the police if you can give probable( in eye's of jury ) to distrust the police officers / station / county using precedent or examples from news / local stories )
with the troubled and terrible track record of USA police the right to distrust ought to be more powerful than the right to remain silent is currently . Not helping uphold laws should not be encouraged but should not be illegal for most crimes .
if I was a judge and accused is with holding information about homicide while not being able to give any example to distrust local police , then and only then I ( as a judge) would give the accused 6 months maximum prison sentence.
@@nhpkm1 The right to remain silent is designed to prevent the police from holding you until you confess.
Here is some advice from a lawyer - Invoke your right to remain silent AND ask for an attorney. Once either is requested, the interrogation should be stopped immediately. Watching this, it feels like the detectives are violating his rights. He may be guilty, but the police have a duty to uphold the constitution.
He didn’t ask for a lawyer
He didn’t want to speak but was dragging things on because he wants learn as much information as possible and see what the detectives know
The moment he explicitly requests a lawyer he may go to jail depending on what evidence they have or he may be free to go he is just being the smartest he can
@@ProfNDKai 16:38 He absolutely did ask for a lawyer, and they did stop at that point.
You must be a bad lawyer. His rights weren’t violated lol
Even if you know you are innocent, do not talk to police without a lawyer present. This is coming from a cop. People who are innocent can miss a tiny detail that makes them look like they are lying or puts them at the scene when they said they weren't. Get a damn lawyer and protect yourself. Miranda warnings are telling you your rights, NOT telling you that you must talk to cops. 🤷♂️
You must stay silent when arrested . They need to prove you are guilty or let you go. Do not fall into their game of self incrimination.
"You must stay silent when arrested "
No. It's ADVISABLE, not a 'must'.
@@Harkeilla if anything you say can be twisted to implicate you in a crime when the police have no evidence and can not hold you without charging you. Don’t put yourself in a position where you need to prove that you are innocent.
@@malek88561 everyplace is different . If you know your place is ok, help them. If not, be still.
@@malek88561 I believe you can be held without being formally charged for a short period of time in many jurisdictions.
Unless you know you're innocent and your story places the accusers accusation at odds.
"He's just using this as an excuse not to talk." You could not be more wrong, Dr Insanity. The accused has a Constitutional right to silence. In fact, no-one should talk to the police as they do not have your best interest at heart.
Well, of course, people *do* use the right to remain silent as an excuse not to talk. That said, anyone innocent should certainly remain silent. 30% of people falsely convicted for capital crimes are convicted based on nothing but confessions.
It sounds crazy, but people do confess to crimes they never committed, especially if the suspects have mental illnesses.
If you have evidence that someone committed a crime, then you should tell the police about it, because its the right thing to do. You shouldn't let the world burn around you just to slightly reduce your risk of being arrested.
That moment was all I needed to hear to know this is a trash channel
@@Jimraynor45 there's a big difference between coming forward with information helpful to an investigation, and being questioned by the police. A world of difference in fact. If you're being questioned, even if you have "helpful" information that you think could exonerate you, KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT. Ask for an attorney, tell YOUR attorney the information and then FOLLOW HIS/HER ADVICE.
Or you can just open your mouth and risk ending up as another innocent person that was put in jail because they talked to the cops.
The problem with your reasoning is that it is principled. Police work is not. It should be, but it isn't.
@@Jimraynor45 If I have evidence, MY LAWYER can hand it to the police. Or not. The KEY difference is that my lawyer's job is to protect me, and a police officer's job is to destroy me. Police are not your friends, but they are legally permitted to pretend to be your friends, lie about what they're going to do, and just about anything else if it helps them destroy you. That's the way the system works.
I was convinced, based on the title, that the cop was going to confess. Instead, he held firm, and he was convicted on evidence independent of anything he said.
Rather than be impressed by these interrogation techniques, I cannot help but think of all the people who were innocent, but were tricked into lying or even confessing -- or who confess, just to get the interrogation over with -- by the police.
Tom Segura made the point that the only 2 people that were ever found not guilty on "48 Hours" were the only 2 people that asked for a lawyer.
Exactly. Even though Grant is guilty, he knows damn well the manipulative techniques the police use and knows the smart thing to do is not talk.
This video is showing how every person should behave.
_"he was convicted on evidence independent of anything he said."_
EXCEPT . . According to the narrator (17:27), he wasn't *_CONVICTED_* on other evidence, he *_PLEADED OUT_* to First Degree Murder.
thats on them for not just asking for an attorney and spilling the beans
@An0n3mu55 > *Bullshit. I would rather have a few innocent people go to the jail or the gallows, than have thousands of guilty people walking the streets*
You know... once someone goes to the gallows, or otherwise is executeed, they're dead, right? Please, tell me you're not going into law enforcement, or lawmaking, you seem like you'd be pretty terrible at it.
this cop was a slimeball, no wonder so many ppl dont trust law enforcement, bc of cops like these.
It's really simple. NOTHING you say can help you. NEVER talk to the police. Hard Stop.
But if you did something wrong, the truth will come and get you without the help from the police.
@@தமிழோன் You'd be surprised how often that isn't the case. Even then I'll take my chances. If you say nothing to the police they have to do all the work. Don't do the work for them. Admit nothing. The rules of court and evidence are against you as well.
Did you know that in the American court system a police office can testify to anything you said that will incriminate you, but cannot testify to anything you say that exonerates you. That is considered hearsay. So literally their is NEVER any reason to talk to the police. all you can do is hurt yourself.
@@தமிழோன்cops don't offer help innocent or not. The guy is right immediately lawyer up. Innocent or not
@@தமிழோன் Keep telling yourself that, while the thousands of politicians do whatever they want and the truth never comes
@@தமிழோன் Fine, but that's their burden. You shouldn't have to hand them the rope they'll use to hang you.
There is a great video of a law professor explaining in depth why you never never ever talk to the cops. Even if you are 100% innocent you do not talk to them. It is a unfortunate reality that most police and prosecutors do not care if they catch the true criminal or not they just need to take someone to trial. If they can railroad an innocent person and get them convicted then they will.
This is a great video for detectives to see how you get a case thrown out because you consistently and deliberately ignored the suspect’s Constitutional right to remain silent.
Some, some won’t. If you know this one is interested in justice, then help them. If you are not sure, keep quiet.
@@HooDatDonDarThere’s no way to know so why risk it?
@@aurorethebore Because it can lead to a quick release and end of questioning.
Most police/prosecutors would far rather catch the right person. Some are just so eager to do so they'll unintentionally railroad an innocent person in the process.
I've been in that room, and I've walk out. They are not your friends, deny everything no matter what they think they have, give them nothing. If they actually have something on you, you would already be in a cell.
why were you in a interrogation room?
@@kthomasss06 criminal
I always talk to police when they talk to me. I have nothing to hide and cooperate. Cooperating makes things easier on you. . . By not cooperating, you are basically saying you are guilty of something.
@jamedlock83 Awww, that is so naive.
Grant did exactly what every person should do. Don't say anything until you have consulted with a lawyer. The detectives tried to use the typical manipulative techniques, the same they use whether the suspect is guilty or not.
Everyone be like Grant when interviewed, ask for a lawyer, and that should be the only thing you say. Remember, if the hold you against your right, you get your free pay day when you sue them for wrongful holding.
It's interesting how many criminals watch these videos to learn what to do and what not to do during interrogations and then advise other criminals lol
@@user-gc2jx4gj2qits amazing how many people here are FOR the criminal
@@woodysanimationsIt's probably because of cases like ryan waller. Me, personally I don't hate or dislike interrogators but I don't trust them. Outside of interrogation, I have high respect for law enforcers
@@user-gc2jx4gj2q What do you mean?
He should have asked for a lawyer at the beginning.
This means that a rapist was literally someone who was working in law enforcement. Absolutely horrific.
Why would a healthy person become a policeman? Either they have no other choice, or to exercise authority over others.
Police rape women every day and most are never convicted due to law and other issues.
Why are you surprised they can be in any jobs
They can also be in government, schools and vaccine companies...
@@hummingpylon some just want to help others? A lot of police officers in my family just want to save and help anyone in danger.
Detective reads suspect his Miranda Rights
Suspects: remains silent
Detective: Confused Pikachu face
Pikachu. I don't have kids and never would sentence a soul to life on this Planet. Your post is childish.
@@randymillhouse791 how is it childish?
@@thedoggyshowtv A childish question.
@@randymillhouse791 LMAO you defo have something wrong with you
Pikachu ( Pokémon) isn’t even a child show, all anime characters and shows aren’t for children. Just like how there is RUclips kids for KIDS but they still watch regular RUclips. Your statment is invalid
"I'm honestly here to help you." It amazes me that cops say that to people they are interrogating when they know the suspect knows that's a bald faced lie.
its mind game. Who will slip first. And tho the dude is killer , i am impresed how he handeled the situation
They're going to hold your hand while you're being raped in the shower.
People like that make me lose hope in humanity.
@@geirtwoAs for me, well, they say that you can’t lose what you never had.
no cop is ever there to help you.
35 years for a rape (he got away with for decades) and a murder (SEPARATE incident)………….what a joke.
A lawyer told me that it was generally a stupid idea to speak to a police officer if there was even the slightest possibility that I had made myself a criminal offence. And that's what I would always do. You can still express yourself through a lawyer.
@michellecraigmiles670 doesn't matter. Always know how to protect yourself in all ways, not just physical confrontations or fights which you can heal from. Being ganged up on and having police pin a murder on you you might not recover from.
even if you know you are 100% innocent, never talk to the police.
It's funny, the cops always say "I want to help you, I can help you". Reality is they couldn't care less about you or what happens to you after you leave that interrogation room.
If the suspect gets emotional or angry, he suffers for it. Having to remain in the chair. If the interrogator gets emotional or angry, he gets to leave the room and have a breather. It is inhumane, regardless of how bad the accusations are. Interrogators deserve prison time. The video is karma in the good way.
hey its only true for some police officers
A bad grape doesnt make the whole bunch bad
well he was a cop who acted his way to his crimes, he deserves whatever he gets POS.
Exactly, and shocking thing is we expect a great deal out of these liars on the streets but these are same people who lie in this room. Many innocent have been fooled/framed in this room by these liars. weird world.
@Mainely cops are civillians and citizens, the fact that they refer to others is point blank proof they have built a cult where they larp being in a warzone.
This is an important lesson for everyone: never engage in conversation with the police without the presence of your lawyer. In addition to exercising your right to remain silent, it is crucial to request legal representation immediately.
I have better advice - don't do what he did and you'll likely be fine.
At the top of the list is don't be a murderer and rapist.
Know who has the most to worry about if police are interviewing them? The innocent person.
Brian Kohberger and a dozen police interviews of other police show that even people who are trained to know better are terrible criminals.
The innocent person has everything to lose. The guilty one usually left enough evidence that then answering questions is irrelevant.
No. Your important lesson is courtesy of Jim Carrey, in "Liar, Liar." STOP BREAKING THE LAW, A$$HOLE!
@@JulianBG You have a lot of trust in the process
He was well within his rights to not answer their questions. The male detective didn’t even realize the subconscious slip he made early on: “I just need to rule you out INTO something…”
Talking is NEVER going to help you, innocent or guilty. If they have you in that room with that setup, they think you’re at least possibly guilty of something. Every defense attorney worth their salt will tell you to invoke your right to remain silent and then DO IT! Talking just gives you more chances to say something wrong, or mis-remember a small detail, and then they’ll want to pounce on that.
This is a cop and they are trying to railroad him, knowing he likely knows all the tricks. Imagine the average citizen in such a situation; they’d have diarrhea of the mouth to try & talk their way out of there.
Can you imagine waking up one day and finding out your police chief father/husband is a murderer AND and rapist to top it off? I really feel for his family and the mental stress they probably are going through. I mean it's real easy not being a total monster if you just. . . like. . . . don't hurt people.
That's just Tuesday with the police force we have in 'murica.
@@johndoeistaken are you justifying this?
@@johndoeistakenweird thing to say
I don't have to imagine it; we're living it.
Just wait till you find out he takes the police truck out at night.
"I just don't know what caused the incident. And if I don't know that, I gotta assume the worst." Ah yes, the pillar that our justice system is built upon. Guilty until proven innocent. Classic.
LOL
they know it was him that killed the driver, they were saying that to give him an out on a lesser charge like manslaughter in order to coerce a confession.
@MineCraftGuyThing
Innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT OF LAW. The police however can use certain psychological strategies to get suspects to talk.
That's why police are technically not considered part of "justice system". Prosecution is justice system in this case, but police is law enforcement.
@@LittleKikuyu ya, including manipulation into a false confession. Ahhh the justice system is perfect isn't it?
The only thing you need to say to a cop is "I want a lawyer"
Negative. You must identify yourself when you’re lawfully detained. Refuse and you’ll be John Doe in jail.
He farts at 13:50 I think 😂
"Fired or resigned 3x before..." I love police vetting their personnel.
I hope that teacher he assaulted was still alive when they found him. It would be nice to know she finally got justice after all those years.
It's interesting that a violent criminal would be drawn to law enforcement. Quite the contradiction.
He was charged for two counts of rape, so we can presume the victim was alive after or they would have charged him for murder too.
@@brianbagnall3029 learn the system to avoid the system I suppose. Also if he's guilty of SA he's probably drawn to police work for the power trip.
@@brianbagnall3029I d argue just the opposite, if you're a violent criminal why not join up with the organization that routinely gets away with violent crime in the name of stopping that exact thing?
@@brianbagnall3029 The Milwaukee police department was one of the toughest in the nation, for decades. That was no accident. They had a 100 Officer unit called the Tactical Squad. Those were hand picked officers who rode 3 to an unmarked car. They wore blue jackets and had the freedom to patrol where ever they wanted. They were mostly 6+ feet tall and tough as cops come.
I witnessed a fight in a sub sandwich store between two guys one night and a Tactical Squad Unit pulled up to the store. The officers never exited the car. The two guys fighting saw them, and stopped fighting.
Those two guys knew if those cops exited the car, their pain level that night would be on a scale they never had experienced.
I know a personal care assistant who lied about her work hours, got caught. She got fired from her company and is banned from that career forever because she said she worked a few days she didn't. These cops commit egregious crimes, get suspended or fired, they can just apply somewhere else and do it again, its an absolute joke how unserious we are about these crucially important jobs.
Sounds like your friend got off easy by not catching a federal felony charge. 🤷♂️
Yeah, let’s blame the cops for everything we do! I seriously doubt that murdering someone gives you a pass in another jurisdiction.
It said he was fired from three jobs not that had committed egregious crimes
@@interstellarsurferfederal felony lol
@@michaelgibson3426 Medicare fraud is a federal crime. She's a lucky duck for getting off lightly.
What part of “I choose to remain silent” is he not understanding? Conversely, that detective is abusing his legal authority by not releasing for lack of evidence.
I was framed for SA once and was only validated by the fact i had badged into my office during the time they claimed it happened (literally they said it happened at 9 AM and I had badged the door at 8:55). Cops were absolutely convinced i did it and i probably looked like this guy. cops were pissed the whole time bcuz the girl was pretty injured. I had no idea what was happening for most of them trying to get me to talk. I got my lawyer and found out it was my EX who claims i SA'd her and then beat her really bad. The beating her sadly was her current boyfriend and the SA was never confirmed to be anyone. She just wanted me to go to jail bcuz she was mad i left her for cheating on me with this new guy, who turned out to be abusive after she moved in with him.
These bitches with the fake SA claims, glad you are oky
Damn, that’s a crazy story
Did u sue her?
Are u sure u were at the office 08.55?
they tried to frame me for a dui in 2003. I had it thrown out of court and won my DMV hearing. Cop told numerous lies in the police report. Only because I was able to get a copy of the dash cam video, and have my blood sample retested by a lab not on a first name basis with the cop, was I able to win. I talked way too much, didn't know better back then. Now I would never say anything.
Obviously he’s guilty, and I in no way support him. But he was absolutely correct to remain silent in interview and ask for a Lawyer. This doesn’t make him any more guilty, and it’s good he chose to exercise that right.
How is it ever good if someone guilty of a crime doesn’t talk to the police
@@Gwazi Because not everyone that gets interrogated turns out to be guilty. False arrests happen often. The police usually just wants to finish as quickly as possible.
The interrogators weren't going to get shit from him.
>"I like TV, do you like TV?"
>"Great, so do you want to tell us what crime you committed today?"
smh idiots
@@Gwazi Even if you are guilty, a lawyer will help you to not dig a deeper hole and perhaps be able to get you a deal to admit guilt. Do bad people go free over lack of evidence? Of course, but that's just how it is. Any other way would see more innocent individuals claiming guilt because being stuck in a room for hours with little food or water is exhausting, especially while some trained professional is trying to get you to doubt yourself at every turn.
Only correct if you're guilty and you have nothing to lose. If you're innocent, you need to tell the cops so they can corroborate or use that information to verify your account, or you are presenting undermining evidence. Advisable to still get a lawyer so they can help you articulate it. If you go silent, the cops may be forced to charge you to let a court decide, given you're not disputing any evidence!
Scary how many hard core criminals there are in the police force
More scary is that he murdered somebody and raped another woman and his sentence was only for 35 years.......In other cases when for example 3 people kill a person, they all usually get imprisoned for life....
Well, they do promote the ones that do allot of crime for the state
COP, stands for Crooks On Patrol, we joked about it in Law Enforcement.
2:30 this dude is sitting as any other in World...nothing inferior or disturbing.
Just remember this: If you were mistakenly or maliciously "positively identified" as a murderer, law enforcement will immediately stop looking for the real killer and put all of their focus on making the known facts of the case fit around you as the culprit through the use of interrogation methods just like these.
Prisons are full of people who thought talking to a cop would clear up any doubt that they were innocent, when in realitythe cop interrogating them is building his case using their own words against them.
As soon as you are read your Miranda rights is only one thing to do; specifically ask for a lawyer to end questioning and remain silent. Innocent or guilty. If you are innocent then anything you say can still be used or intepreted in a negative light. If the officer thinks you didn't do anything, they cannot testify to that. If he thinks anything was suspicious such as body language, tone, posture etc they can testify to that. Its a lose/lose situation.
Yup if he had Saul Goodman he would have ran over there in 20 minutes and had his client released haha
As a retired investigator, I always respected the ones who did not talk and asked for their lawyer. It’s what I would do in that circumstance. Using your rights does not make you appear guilty. Maybe some feel that way, but that’s not true. In truth normally the guilty ones are the ones who talk. They think being helpful will make them look innocent. The Reed Technique is just another tool to use and should not be the only style of dialogue used. This investigator is 🤦♀️ imo. Getting a confession is helpful but never necessary if you have the evidence to back up the charges.
I'm Helpy Helperson, I think that it makes me looks innocent, but it really makes me look guilty.
Thank u for your insight I am interested in these things and no matter what happened i’m glad they got him for both cases🙏🏻 may he rot in pieces
When people in their comments state they had some profession related to the comment, then I always wonder why. Do you think your comment is perceived more important this way? If you were really what you say, then I just can't imagine why you find the need to state your opinion, let alone mentioning your background. That is why I think that in 99% of the cases the commenter is just lying and seeking the need to make him/her self look more important.
@@computerjantje More important no. More experience than someone who has no training in the field, yes. It’s that experience that forms the opinion. Many people have the wrong ideas on how things work. So, when someone who does know tries to explain and does not list their experience people come back with the same kind of nonsense you posted. You can’t win for losing it appears. If my comment did not help you then move on. It was written to help people understand how information should be obtained.
What if I dont have a lawyer? Just stay quiet and that will do for then?
0:30 that is a mf Monte Carlo not a Malibu
I'm not really on this guy side , but it's his right. Whether you guilty or not , always ask for a lawyer. Even if you are innocent , when you talking , police can put you inside for literally anything.
YEP! I was once in a situation where cops were trying to pin something on me that I never did. I straight up asked for a lawyer and walked free.
Then we wouldn't have any content to watch 😂
Yeah, specially the part when the suspect wants to remain silent and that can raise the suspicion level, therefore they can hold him hostage longer.
especially when the cops don't have anything and need something to go on,,a start to build off of they always play the suspect for a fool. just shut up and ask for a lawyer to help guide you through a tricky time.
Yep,he never asked for a lawyer till later....he just said he wants to remain silent.He should have just said "I want a lawyer"...and they would of stopped in the beginning.
As someone who has been screwed over by police and had I not had cameras with audio proving the officers lied I would still be in jail
Just like the uploader you don't know the difference between jail and prison
@@weatherstationlytovchenko4794U dont know the difference either 😐🙄
@@weatherstationlytovchenko4794
Your comprehension skills are very poor
I also would have gone to jail if I didn't have the cops own dash cam video to prove he was lying and I was innocent.
@@weatherstationlytovchenko4794What’s the difference ?
He should have demanded to either be charged or leave. He should have also asked for council as soon as his rights were read to him.
I did NOT see that last bit coming. This is the first time I have come to this channel and the way you presented the video and then what he did 20 years prior, well done sir, you hit the suspense button just at the right time.
One cannot imagine what this cop got away with before he felt empowered enough to kill a man in cold blood.
How do we keep letting monsters in law enforcement? We need a far better vetting system.
Some of them may not be monsters at the time. Its not a huge stretch to imagine that some of the things police have to deal with will have an effect on them down the road. Just like corrupt cops. If you're around that shit all the time, it might start to influence you.
What also needs to be done is end qualified immunity and have cops carry their own liability insurance just like doctors, nurses, and EMTs do.
@@AlbertaGeek 100% agree
It's not a bug. It's a feature. The blue line protects the blue.
hahahaha....they need the psychos to the be psychos so that police forces, as a whole, can still perform their primary duty, which is to protect private property and very often, that involves brutalizing populace when she goes down. Most ppl with consciences are not cool with brutalizing their fellow man, American police seem to love it.
saying you want to exercise your right to remain silent, and then being questioned 100 more times is insane
Any lawyer will tell you, nothing you say to police can help your case. They're gathering evidence, not trying to rule you out. Innocent or guilty, having a lawyer present can in no way hinder your case.
I know someone who was sent to prison with a sentence of 28 years just for defending himself against a group of teenagers carrying knives & clubs, but this man only got 35 years, the law system is literally F****ed head over heels.
Every system in this country is fucked
With over a million people in prison in America, you expect that each of these people would be assigned a depravity score to eight digits accuracy, sorted into ascending order, and then given correspondingly more severe sentences, without a single inmate A being more depraved than some other inmate B who got a shorter sentence-otherwise the entire system is faffed head over heals.
Let me fill in "just for defending himself". I can picture the whole thing, near enough. Here's one version. He chose the highly effective tactic of grabbing the first and scariest juvenile who got near to him, spun him around into a choke hold, told the rest of the crowd to back off or he would strangle his "assailant" to death, they dithered slightly so as not to look weak causing the choke hold to go on for quite a while. After they finally backed off and he released his grip, the juvenile had: A) a broken neck; B) brain damage; or C) took the Floyd George exit from the land of the breathing. He argued in court that fighting one against many, there's no margin for Mr Nice Guy, you have to go to maximum escalation while you still can. Then it turns out he had hissed the n-word at one of them before they got hostile, and it was recorded on film, along with the entirely predictable consequences.
At which point the judge concluded he was "just" defending himself from a situation he had deliberated provoked by leaving one of them in a lifeless heap, and given that he had a brief former career in the MMA-making him _far_ from defenseless enough to justify such a radical first move, the whole situation smelled more like race-baiting than youth mob violence. Perhaps he also had priors, establishing a behaviour pattern of "who, me?" in the aftermath of someone else winding up in an ambulance or a morgue.
@@afterthesmash You really need to make some friends.
@@afterthesmash Bro, if teens are carrying knives and clubs and are about to stab you and beat you, there is no reason the victim should never be allowed to defend himself. Simple as that.
@@afterthesmash George Floyd died of a drug overdose.
It's as if Kevin from The Office was a little smarter and evil. I can just see this guy spilling an entire pot of chili on the carpet.
I absolutely loved seeing those interrogators get frustrated. They're so used to being able to bully people into talking they had no clue how to handle it.
If you've been called in for a police interview, it's because they don't have enough evidence to charge you in the first place. Silence is golden.
Eh, only sometimes that's the case. But i hear ya
@Lyric Love yeah sometimes they wanna bring you in to charge other people too lol police play all kind of games
That’s not true. I’m a lawyer. Police can charge you with zero evidence if they want to. That’s their power. To CONVICT you the DA either needs your confession, a blind plea, or to convince a jury. That’s what the interrogations are for. A home run for the detective is to get a confession, but the secondary objective is to use your words against you in court to build a strong enough case to almost guarantee a CONVICTION against you. They can charge anybody at any time with as little evidence as they want. Still has to go to court. But that means dirt without a conviction. It doesn’t even matter if you’re innocent. A man was just released after 20+ years in prison for the rape of his 6 year old daughter at the time. The daughter herself wrote to the courts over 100 times for 20 years straight saying that he was innocent and they still kept him in for all those years. If the system wants you, it’ll take you.
@@aada19aada81 Lawyers are shyster criminals😂
@@cadaverdog1424 As opposed to the DOJ whose boots you suck on for comfort.
They seriously censored the word "rape"??? That's incredible.
maybe because of youtube censorship
@@formbi fuck youtube
RUclips thinks that advertisers are a bunch of sensitive snowflakes. Meanwhile, I'm getting ads that are borderline illegal.
And "semen" too!
@@2020-p2z haha, such as what?
Unbelievable. The word "rape" and anything associated is censored. America has an inate problem with words.
It's not America, It's youtube. Content creators can get strikes for the stupidest crap.
@@guugleisinvadingmyprivacy2431 It's not America, it's RUclips.. Good one 🙂
Innate
thats liberal for yah
I remember not too long ago, you could actually type the full and complete n word and it would never ever get banned, now there's alot of words you're not allowed to say or it's automatic comment deletion
16:38 "Can I get a lawyer?"
From this moment forward, any statement he makes is inadmissible. She needs to get up and leave the room.
If you ask any Attorney or Police Officer…. They will ALL tell you not to ever talk without a lawyer by your side.
Even though this guy wants to remain silent… he didn’t ask for a lawyer.
And when the female Officer said, “I’m honestly here to help you”…. I almost choked.
I’m sure the guy is guilty ….. but you should always have a lawyer
Innocent or not. NEVER EVER. If they're just trying to pin it on someone (we've seen it happen before) one wrong word you're fucked lol
The narrative of interrogation scenes like this often makes it look like further wrongs are being committed when a suspect refuses to talk or requests a lawyer. Nothing could be further from the truth. There is NOTHING to be gained from talking to police. ANYTHING you say can and will be used against you. If you say something incriminatory, it is admissible as evidence. If you or the interrogator say something that might be exculpatory, it is considered hearsay and is inadmissible.
If you lie, even inadvertently, that can be added to your charges. If the interrogator lies to you, they have immunity.
It is a balance scale with several tons on the side of law enforcement and you on the other side. It is like thinking you can ultimately win in a gambling casino. The only way to "win" is to cut your losses by not playing.
Did this guy deserve to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law? Of course. However, the right to avoid self-incrimination and to legal counsel/defense are fundamental to justice. I'm just surprised at how long it took him to ask for a lawyer.
Well, don't know how long they can hold you for questioning if is not a arrest
Yeah, but still...this is a blatant Miranda violation. Whether he asks for a lawyer or not, he unequivocally invoked his right to remain silent. Questions intended to illicit evidence against the suspect must cease then and there.
@@daviswilliams201 You are incorrect…. You must literally request an attorney. Saying your are going to “Remain silent”… is not asking for an attorney. The detectives were probably thinking… “Okay, then we’ll keep talking anyway”.
It's crazy to me how many people truly do not understand the whole "you have the right to remain silent". Remaining silent and not answering any questions totally shuts down these interrogations. It's simple. Just keep your mouth shut and wait for a lawyer.
I have a question what if I ask for food eat the food and be like mhhh while I was eating I remembered something I want a lawyer 😩
@@jspi04 I can't find it right now but there was one of these videos where the dude keeps telling the cops he'll talk and they take him to the room and give him a coke and he's like "i don't talk to cops, I just wanted a coke". He does it like 3 times before they get wise and they throw the whole coke away the last time.
Staying silent is the right thing to do with today's police regardless if you're certain of your innocence. Police can charge you with unrelated crimes or lying to them if you misspeak or are misunderstood.
Always cool to see how cops want to ‘help’ someone and their ‘beautiful family’ by locking them up…
"If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about". LMFAO.
Not inaccurate
Is true
I feel so bad for his daughter. Hope she's doing ok.
I'm pretty sure she's fine with him being in jail, knowing he's both a rapist and a murderer.
Finding out her dad is what he is, that's less easy to deal with of course.
The reason you don't let cops question you is the same reason you don't represent yourself in court.
It is extremely easy to self incriminate. Even by accident. Even if you didn't do anything.
Even if you are a lawyer and you know the game.
It's weird that you can't say rape as if it's a swear...
Trigger word
@@user-nk3zz9gz5h people who have rape as a trigger word shouldn't be watching videos about criminal investigations to be fair
RUclips could flag your video and give your account hell. It's a shame how things have changed so much.
Its not weird…its fascism
But yet it's OK for men to go into female bathrooms 🚻 🙄
When a detective tell you they want to help.
Call your lawyer.
I would NEVER talk to the police without an attorney!
I never thought Jim Lahey would stoop this low.. 0:52
😂😭😂
crazy that you've doubled your subs in just a few days, but even crazier is that you still have so few subs. loving your work, super interesting videos, new fave for sure.
Random
Thanks man
As a taxpayer, I hate that we have to give police the benefit of doubt, when they’re human and experience all types of characteristics like being deceptive, lying, being dishonest, but because they swear to do something doesn’t mean they’ll do it. But the scale the citizens on has no room for allowances unless you’re a police
wait till you find out about Judges, Senators and Presidents, rich CEOs etc
0:15 "he tried everything he possibly could to escape"
... tries the 1 door handle
This is the most uncomfortable interview for the cops I've ever watched. We really should all know our rights and invoke them like this.
Comedian Kathleen Madigan’s father was a lawyer, and this was her nightly “bedtime story”, yelled up from the bottom of the steps… “what do you say if the cops roll up on you? I do not recall and I want an attorney”. Nuff said.
You do know Comedians tell jokes to gey a laugh, right? 😂Not saying the premise is wrong, but i highly doubt that was her goodnight every night. She used it as the source of a joke. Nuff said. 😁
@@damotheman4196 yeah and I posted it because I thought it was funny.
@@Alleycat938 So you're a joke thief? 🙈 Oooh no it's worse than I thought! (I'm just pulling your leg Allison, wasn't being serious 👍)
@hewdelfewijfe wow, that makes sense! Thank you!!!
@hewdelfewijfe this pie hole is sealed!
Here's the thing. He's either free to go, or he isn't, and the second the officer says he is not free to go, he can invoke his rights and ask for a lawyer. They HAVE to stop talking to him. Period.
utterly annoying how they fake the conversation. just a waste of time
@@jasperchance3382 except it's a tried and true tactic that gets a lot of confessions from people who aren't in the profession.
@@yazarogi When you have enough proof, you don't need to go through all that, sorry.
@@yazarogi its an illegal tactic in violation of the constitution. Law enforcement cannot continue interrogation after a suspect has invoked his rights.
Even though he was guilty and should be in jail, it bugs me so much how they try to bully/trick people out of their rights.
I feel bad for his wife and daughter; imagine finding out your husband or father is a murderer and rapist, I don’t know that I’d ever recover from that trauma and breaking of trust in someone.
Like Rex Heuermann?
My parents had long time friends. After these friends had been married for 40 years, the husband was charged and found guilty of child molestation. The wife never recovered.. she just mentally slipped away and passed a few years later.
Didn’t know Kevin from the office was capable of doing such a thing!
Just had one of those "Light Bulb Moments".....maybe all police officers should go into the national DNA data base as soon as they start their police training or application to be a police officer. it appears this guy might have been caught decades ago. But we wouldn't want to violate anyone's rights.
I’ve been saying that for many years. When you are in a position of power as LE is… in todays world, their DNA should be on file.
@@CaliCarolyn I agree. Any position of perceived power. I was a paramedic and there were times we had a power in controlling what was being done. So in my opinion all teachers, school admin, anyone who works with children, Fire Fighters, Professors at universities, and any position of power that can be used to control or manipulate people. Evil exist everywhere including churches.
and check all there digital devices,,
I already is if you're a Fed.
Criminals violate other people’s rights with their actions.
Dude these interrogation are awesome and don't take all night to hear them. New subber here. And thanks