Leonard Bernstein & Concertgebouworkest Amsterdam - Beethoven: Missa solemnis
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2012
- Ludwig van Beethoven (1770-1827):
Missa solemnis in D major, op.123
I. Kyrie
II. Gloria
III. Credo
IV. Sanctus
V. Agnus Dei
Edda Moser, soprano
Hanna Schwarz, mezzo-soprano
René Kollo, tenor
Kurt Moll, bass
Grosser Rundfunkchor Hilversum N.O.S.
Concertgebouworkest Amsterdam
Leonard Bernstein 
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Beethoven makes life worth living.
From the heart - may it return to the heart!
This music is the greatest verse ever penned in all of time. The divinity, the truth, the beauty is devastating. Devastating to my soul. A thousand galaxies for Beethoven would not be enough to pay the debt this world owes him.
Well said, Mr. Gill. We struggle for metaphor. I often look at pictures of the great galaxy in Andromeda and imagine its song. Maybe it's Beethoven's after all. No one ever wrote songs more other-worldly. They are everywhere in this mass and to me more perfectly inform his late work than any other character, although I'm no musician. I'm just glad I have ears.
Yes, absolutely agree.. The most glorious music ever written by human hands, and he was totally deaf! About the Son of God, died for the sins of the world, buried, and risen on the 3rd day according to scriptures! Who can help but believe! Beethoven's Christus Am Olberge ("Christ on the Mount of Olives", Op.85) is also a masterpiece which is exceeding underplayed and unknown. The cello solo ushering in the duet between the Seraph and Messiah, words cannot do justice to convey! Also most biblical presentation of the scriptures/gospel to music ever (next to Handel's Messiah)!
Thanks für this touching comment. It's the way I feel too. Beethovens's power and depth is unmatched.
Beautiful and wonderful to be sure, and by his own admission antedated by J. S. Bach, including his Mass in b minor where the text predominates. ruclips.net/video/EH6wdRVqoXQ/видео.html
+Contending for The Faith:
The interesting thing is that Beethoven's faith transcended creed. He was highly critical of the catholic church and about Jesus he said: "He was nothing more than a crucified Jew" and Haydn once remarked about him that he was something of an atheist. Yet he still believed in something he called "deity".
Bernstein is one of a handful to have really nailed this challenging work. Bless him.
What a soul-nourishing performance. The soloists make magic together and Bernstein is magnificent.
Kurt Moll, the tradition of a great bass voice, powerful, full of colour, exciting. Tks!
I feel like standing for the entrance of the conductor is most of the time a formality. But, with this standing at the entrance of Bernstein, these folks mean it.
Beethoven's greatest work. It stands head and shoulders above any pretenders to the throne: the Hammerklavier, the Grosse Fuge, Fidelio, even the ninth symphony, none of them comes close. Here Beethoven finally penetrated the veil between the worlds and let us hear the voices of the heavenly hosts.
i'd go one step further....the greatest work of genius of all time!
I consider it equal to the 9th symphony.
Missa Solemnis, Beethoven, Bernstein and Concertgebouw. One of the most important works produced by human intelligence. Thank you for sharing.
Bernstein, Reiner, and Von Karajan's interpretations of Beethoven were pure magic. I think Bernstein especially related to Beethoven's mix of genius, passion, and gentleness vs. explosive joy. As well as his tortured and conflicted soul. Kindred spirits a century or so apart.
The cellist Hans van Weydom Claterbos was indeed my father. It really touches me you remember him! Meanwhile, I’ve found quiet exactly the date of this performance: March 1978, two month before my father had to leave for reasons of health. He is there, and also Krebbers, who was one year later to leave, forced by an accident. One year before, De Machula had retired and was succeeded by Harro Ruijsenaars, who is also there. As for Pollard and Labordus, they must have been on their periodic leave.
This is the recording I own on vinyl. I love Beethoven but must admit that it took me some time to warm to this piece, an acquired taste, even for those who like classical music and choral music. When I'm in the right mood, there's nothing else I'd rather listen to.
Cada vez que escucho el Credo de la Missa Solemnis me parece más sublime.
Kyrie 1:38
Gloria 12:02
Credo 30:07
Sanctus 50:38
Agnus Dei 1:07:44
Jazzfan Thanks!
The content of the music is beyond words. The ephemeral sound transcends the material world.
Brilliant Performance of this outstanding Masterpiece...there is no greater, deeper, more exquisite music than this Beethoven Treasure!
Beethoven's heart was breaking, as it slowly did for the rest of his days. He did want to praise God, in whom he believed. He was a lonely, lonely man who never really experienced love from anyone. It shows in this glorious piece, so amazingly led by The Maestro, and nothing is its equal.
YES!
I find love abundant in this... Beethoven will full of love
The relationship between Beethoven and God, as revealed in Christ, was complex ... but, one does sense him being called back home, if you will, from about 1818 to the end... it may be that Beethoven, his heart as deep and full as it was, found he could at last go nowhere else ... humanity in the mass can do nothing to satisfy the needs and longings. or reciprocate such love ... and then of course, he was not able to be with his Immortal Beloved, and to where is anyone going for consolation for a wound like that? One can get clear through everything the world and its people have to offer ... and find that only Christ suffices ... and perhaps, as hints in his music and biography suggest, perhaps Beethoven confronted that reality in his last years.
This is incredible music with incredible musicians. And I loved Herman Krebbers, great concertMaster.
Thank you!
🙏🙏🙏
I like how in many of their entrances the soloists sing straight-toned.... It is hard to tell if you are hearing an instrument or a voice until that vibrato lightly kicks in. Very nice work.
God in Music!!!
Gustavo Sotomayor Fonzalida o tambien podría ser que dios sí se manifestara de una persona, en este caso le susurraba al oido!
Cómo el mismo Beethoven lo decía incluso.
Y yo pienso sí, el quizás lo decía por su gran orgullo de sí mismo, pero está música de verdad es la voz de dios (a toda escala)
amazing violin solo
MÚSICA CELESTIAL...!!!!
Ludwig van Beethoven (1770-1827):
MISA SOLEMNE EN RE MAYOR, op.123
I. Kyrie
1:30
II. Gloria
12:06
III. Credo
30:06
IV. Sanctus
-Benedictus 50:38
V. Agnus Dei 1:07:43
Exactamente
from a time when Bernstein was producing some of the best records of Beethoven symphonies on Deutsche gramophone.
Bernstein give such a solid support to the orchestra; they feel safe to give their best to a conductor who does it clearly and precisely.
arguably the best Missa Solemnis ever, top soloists, Concertgebouw Orchestra, Groot Omroep Koor, Lenny and the violinsolo by the legendary Herman Krebbers!
Spiace non leggere alcun commento da parte di ascoltatori italiani : ciò ci sprona ad insistere per una educazione musicale , in ispecie nella ns. scuola !!! Ad ogni buon conto trattasi di una registrazione ad altissimo livello sia per la Missa , sia per direzione magistrale quanto infine per la superba e magnificente corale che interpreta in maniera straordinaria una delle pagine più alte che genio umano abbia mai composto .
Luciano Zanella condivido le tue considerazioni in ogni parte!
Che cosa li rende così sicuri? Forse molti italiani preferiscono scrivere in inglese su RUclips?
Non scrivo quasi mai in tedesco.
40.00 ... "et vitam venturi saeculi"... the center of the mass, his heart immense .....
Very great interpretation for "Lennie", the soloists, the chor, the orchestra.
Beethoven did a good job, too, since he composed it.
q maravilla la parte solista del violinista principal!!, una belleza!!, genio Beethoven , Lenny y el maestro Violinista en la ejecución.
Many great musicians and music afficianados are convinced that the Missa Solemnis is Beethoven’s greatest work. After years of listening to many different performances of this work, I still find it easier to respect the Missa Solemnis than to love it.
No performance can do this composition justice.
This is the perfection!
Esta es la perfección!
Sí, lo es
Excelent chorus and soloits. I also want to give a special mention to the principal violinist for his delicate and sweet playing during the Sanctus part.
Herman Krebbers.
I was there in the 80ties
fantastc - superb - magnificent leonard bernstein always - pwefect video. thanks a lot my friend. of ocurse music like this is the oxygen for our souls. BRAVO BRAVISSIMO. ANNA BRAZIL.
La _Missa Solemnis_ es el _Everest_ de la música de todos los tiempos.
Cuando _Dios_ nos pida una obra que haya justificado nuestro andar por este mundo, no dudemos en presentar ante _Él_, con la venia de su inmortal autor claro está, esta _por siempre insuperable_ creación del intelecto humano de todas las épocas, y de todos los siglos pasados y por venir.
Complacido, _Él_ sonreirá a modo de aprobación.
Sin lugar a dudas amigo
The Missa Solemnis is the Everest of music of all time.
When God asks us for a work that has justified our walk through this world, we do not hesitate to present before Him, with the permission of his immortal author, of course, this forever unsurpassed creation of the human intellect of all ages, and of all centuries Past and coming.
Pleased, He will smile for approval.
Without a doubt, friend
I too purchased this on vinyl not long after its release. Beautiful Deutsche Grammophon box. It was my introduction to this great work, and still to this day, after having heard many performances, including the famed Klemperer, I think this is its most inspired rendition. The soloists in particular here deliver on a level I don't think I have heard before or since in a choral work.
I agree. Normally I'm more a HIP guy when it comes to Beethoven. But this is so otherworldly even in the relatively slow tempo and the soloists are so perfect, I think it is one of Bernsteins best recordings.
Herman Kebbers and all the others wrere great and great and great Judit from Hungary!
Sublime ~~~ music and performance! Thank you ever so much for posting!
Magnificent! Thank you.
without any doubt all my praise respect and deep love. thanks.
Eine wunderbare Messe und eine tolle Aufführung. Vielen Dank für das schöne Video
Alessandro Lombardi
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40:00 min. ... "et vitam venturi saeculi"... the center of the mass, his heart immense .....
1:18:38 suddenly a Händel hommage .... very touching ....
Beethoven loved the music of Handel.
from which work?
I remember buying this recording on vinyl when it came out in '79, I also have the very different Gardner and both are wonderful in there own way.
La mejor versión junto a la de Klemperer. Impresionante Kurt Moll en el comienzo del Agnus Dei.
I adore this music! And it's narrative approach as opposed to development is unique among much of Beethoven's major output.The CD version of this performance was the very first MS that I purchased! I enjoyed it at the time, but have since moved on to other recordings. I felt, as I do, watching this performance again years later, that the sound is rather dry, and Carol Moser's top rather tight.But, I really liked seeing some old timers: i.e. Kollo and Moll in visual performance. Camera work is of course limited. Would have liked to see more of the violinist in his solo in the Benedictus. Bernstein conducts a concise and interesting performance, by no means consistently slow. The Agnus Dei may well be the most beautiful I've heard, surely in part because of the great soloists.
Un "Gloria" potentissimo, ai vertici delle interpretazioni della beethoveniana Missa Solemnis
A very powerful "Glory", at the top of the interpretations
of the Beethovenian Missa Solemnis
I concur!
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This is my favourite Beethoven's piece from your third period, along with the "Diabelli Variations", the five last piano sonatas and (of course) the 9th symphony.
no love for the late quintets?
banson houry No, are the last QUARTETS. From your 16 quartets, my favourites are the three Op.59 (Rasumovsky) and Op.74 (Harp). The six op.18 are excellents too, but i honestly i don't like the six last quartets, i'm sorry.
Igor Maxwel ah... sorry bout that, my mistake, thanks for pointing it out, and taking the opportunity presented, may i ask why you dont like the last 6( although i just like to say 5 even though the grosse fuge stands really well on its own, i just like it more when played during opus 130), i myself may not be the most familiar with it, so far, what stands out most to me is the 131 130 and 135 that i really love and adore, but enough of my opinion, why dont you like them as much as the other late beethoven works?
banson houry I really don't know, this is simply my opinion.
banson houry YES THE LATE QUARTETS, the sonatas are better
Has anybody noticed that the theme in the Agnus Dei section for "Dona Nobis Pacem" is the same theme Handel used in the Hallelujah Chorus, "And he shall reign forever.?" This is Beethoven's way of saying "Lamb of God, grant us peace forever!"
Mozart also pinched large sections from the Messiah in his Requiem. But then Handel was probably the worst musical thief of all time, so all is fair!
The theme is woven throughout the piece from the opening kyrie ( its hard to recognize bc its so slow and dotted rhythm.) To the subject of the big Gloria fugue ( I'm pretty sure it's inverted there) to the opening of the Credo. Or at least these instances are merely thematically related at worst.
이런 곡을 시도한다는 자체가 대단하군요..지휘자는 거진 악보를 안 보고 합니다.
Shameless how Google interrupts classical music with their filthy ads....
John Linton Get adblock, my friend!
John Linton completely agree!!!
+John Linton Buy a recording of the music if you don't want ads. People have to make their living somehow. It wasn't google that put the ads there, it was the RUclips user.
Use Add block instead of whining.....
YES YES YES!!!!
Ouvindo hoje, após comentários de resposta do maestro, João Maurício Galino na rádio Cultura. A imagem está danificada, mas o áudio está ótimo.
always hit me at 47:20 when the credo hits the climax and the soloists raise.
오묘한 화음의 장에서 삶과 죽음의 의미가 깊게 파고 드는 명곡이군요.....
Premiered #otd in 1824 💐💐💐
Deutsche Grammophon has released a Live CD version with the same soloists, it is dated March 2, 1978. It's probably the soundtrack to this concert.
It is. From the seventies onward Bernstein did very few pure studio recordings. Probably 85% of what he recorded from that time onward was recorded live and filmed at the same time.
How can we comment something so complex than the Missa Solemnis? Let us just note that Bernstein conducts it by rendering each detail audible and understandable, and this is very important considering the richness of this Mass.
In reply to Fritz Maisenbacher: Actually no. Lenny's delicious syncopation and inventive phrasing, in this as in all his work AFAIK, limns stuff in masterpieces I otherwise don't hear, and I've been listening to him do it for five decades. A relentless showman sure enough: but he knows his ****. More, he has oceans to work with here beyond anything Mahler ever dreamed.
dont agree with showman! He was a musician, on his passport he asked to be written "Leonard Bernstein, musician" . He did for music more than any other musician did.
Yes , you are right ;
I don't know the reason I wrote such a silly comment .
I must have had a very bad evening at this day .....
(but I am such a Klemperer junkie ...)
This is Bernstein at the top of his game. Have never before seen him conduct without a safety rail behind the podium - a bit dangerous for all his wild movements.
If you like Beethoven's Missa Solemnis check out Aldous Huxley's essay Music at Night from 1931.
As far as I know it was not recorded in 1979. A few years later. More I don't remember. Someone with the CD-box can tell.
March 1978.
GRAN OBRA MUSICAL DICE JORGE ALBERTO BARÓN
give some praise to the composer as well
Does anyone know if this was ever remastered?
Curious year of performance
Wonderful! This should have been almost fourty years ago; I recognize many musicians from trhat time in the orchestra. Please, can you tell me the exact date of this performance?
78
Does this DVD have commentary by Bernstein on it? I have the DVD, but I've gone through the scene selections and haven't been able to find any comments by him on the DVD.
My favorite part: 43:10 - 47:47
The greatest part ever
Nothing is quite like it, though for me the end of the gloria can come close ( I'm really picky about the performance on that one though.) And otherwise I think only the Grosse Fugue and maybe the Hammerklavier fugue come close to this intensity.
55:50 violin
Incredible performance! Thank you for posting. Does anyone know the name of the violin soloist during Benedictus?
Herman Krebbers
hola hay una canción de este artista que es muy movida que la usaban en un juego de maquinita que se trataba de bailar alguien sabe como se llama lleva la tonada de una canción que tocan cuando hay desfiles de banderas.
+José Arturo Sánchez Cano Será América del musical West Side Story.
Anyone knows when this was recorded in Amsterdam?
rodovre 1979 according to Wikipedia
What's that channel there?
Sweet people, here is the link to the video and recording in stereo: ruclips.net/video/vKiSTL6UrFk/видео.html&ab_channel=SirMcArthurMASTER
oh shut up about ads. seems you are simply exacerbating the problem by commenting on it.
this is the film???
57:05
why was the credo so fast ;(
Maybe too much passion and histrionics by the Maestro on the podium but that is the unique nature of this music and Bernstein's style ... a perfect match now made in "heaven", but thank god it's on RUclips.
Nothing about passion can be "too much".
1:30
Benedictus 54:56
I find moments of great beauty here, but also a good deal I don't particularly care for. (It actually engages me more in the later movements.)
It's not surprising, the grouping of this mass commonly with Bach's B Minor Mass, as both are works of surpassing technical proficiency but neither quite captured the popular imagination as did their many other works.
Beethoven here is a bit too dilatory, too far from his power as an expositor of narrative and indefatigable exploiter of tight motifs.
One would not guess this was by Beethoven's hand, if naively listening.
+John Linton I'm in general accordance with Reed Peter and say that this is an interesting response, to which I almost entirely disagree.
"Beethoven here is a bit too dilatory, too far from his power as an expositor of narrative and indefatigable exploiter of tight motifs."
With this statement in particular I take issue. Too dilatory, too far from his power as expositor of narrative and indefatigable exploiter of tight motifs?
Many would argue that this is not only Beethoven's greatest work, but the supreme expression of his deepest, most heartfelt thoughts. I think the music is far from dilatory but is rather exquisitely paced being full of beautiful motifs and contrasting moods which create a compelling spiritual narrative, an expressive narrative which is really unmatched by any other setting of the mass. The music flows so naturally throughout, with seamless integration of the many different segments making up a magnificent whole.
"One would not guess this was by Beethoven's hand, if naively listening."
This I may actually agree with, but only because the work is so unlike anything that Beethoven had ever written, it is really on another level altogether, the very culmination of all his musical powers of the highest order and merit.
You are not wrong.
54:52
40:19
47:16
Es de muy mal gusto interrumpir el concierto para pasar el comercial de turno..XD!!!!!
Well, I think this is just about as thrilling as it gets. I like the soloists but the mezzo is basically inaudible.
Seriously?! She owned the "Gloria" and the "Credo", and her solos in the "Agnus Dei" just dominate. Check the settings on whatever you're playing it on or get some better headphones.
Franchement, les publicités, c'est abusé!!! Je me barre!!!
ERA UN BRAV UOMO, NULLA DA DIRE
Bach's mass in B minor
very easily surpasses Beethoven's Missa Solemnis.
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I love this performance, but after some listennings, I found some mistakes. Not made by the contralto. She is perfect.
Good ! Those people are human, not God.
Am I the only one on earth, who can ignore mistakes?!?
I recall Haydn's account of a performance, whereby he
said that quite a few notes fell under the table.
Even a famous composer works with people
(not God), who make mistakes. Who cares?
@@robertcaldwell910 Mistakes ignore them???in a repertoire such as this not a chance.....
Karajan was gentler.
too big too heavy just played in megalomaniac beethoven style
yes i would
I agree. Even Bernstein can't save this from prolonged screech with some interspersed calm. My Karajan version, bought forty years ago, of course the same.
1:38 54:50