Fallout: A World on Fire
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- Опубликовано: 17 май 2024
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Chapters:
0:00:00 - Intro
0:00:54 - Vaults 31, 32 and 33
0:11:05 - Moldaver
0:16:26 - Hank
0:21:36 - Wilzig
0:24:49 - Maximus
0:37:54 - Lucy
1:01:54 - The Ghoul
1:10:57 - Grimby
1:17:08 - Consequences
1:28:23 - Capitalising on Satire
1:40:28 - The Cowboy vs. Communism
1:49:30 - The Dialogue and Humour
1:52:05 - Atomic Post-Continuity
2:04:39 - Why?
2:05:55 - Conclusion
2:14:17 - Satirical Radiation
2:17:58 - De-evolution, Degeneration and Destruction
2:24:38 - Outro 
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The mods will fix the show guys, it's gonna be fine
LoversLab users are gonna have a field day with this show.
It just works.
It's not a plot hole, it's a feature.
You see that plot hole? You can criticize it!
@@avengedlol6698 I think there is way too much incest, this might be the first instance where they may shy out and say "nope, that stuff is way too pervert"
Watching the Fallout show almost makes me wish for a nuclear winter.
Sounds to me that you liked the show so much you want it to happen.
Hi Rags
Niiiice
I would rather play Fallout 4 main quest 3 more times that watch one more episode of that show.
@@mattmark94 Holy shit, is that bad?
''If war doesn't change , men must change'' Somehow this line has escaped both Bethesda and the writers at amazon. ''War never changes'' Now is nothing more than a catch phrase , any meaning or message that it had is gone.
It now carries the same meaning as "Get that jelly mold outta here!"
@@PaulieMcCoy To me it's like ''May the force be with you'' It had a specific meaning but now everyone says it no matter the context or what the character believes in.
"tHiS iS tHe wAy."
Well, war never changes because men never change
1:27:50 I remember watching a clip of an interview of a civilian eyewitness of a nuclear test. She was driving with her sister through the desert, and they saw this bright flash on the horizon. Her sister asked, "What was that bright light?"
The interviewer, leadingly, "Why was that unusual?"
"My sister is blind."
If you read the accounts of astronauts, they have trouble sleeping because cosmic rays hitting your retina through your eyelids and skull causes bright speckles and flashes while your eyes are closed.
That’s pretty haunting.
Yeah, the intensity of the flash can blind you if you're not blind, and the photonic release is so massive it can stimulate the retina enough that even the damaged cells get something.
Nukes are closer to eldritch horrors than any kind of weapon.
Their power is immense and, in many cases, incomprehensible to the average man.
@@endlessstrata6988
YEEZUS 0_0
The Longman may just have converted me!
Play Fallout 1,2 and New Vegas (Actual good Fallout games), your opinion on the show will 100% change.
heheheheh
Sup Drinker! Same, not that I thought the show was good just that it had some good qualities. But the cons just eclipse the pros now after Mauler's vid.
Yeah please try the first 2 games if you haven't. They created this million dollar franchise for a reason
I'm excited for this week's Drinker's Bar
"Maximus constantly fails upward, I guess the writers just wrote what they knew." my god
A writer from Captian Marvel worked on this.
So it's not a plot hole! If anything, it's a canny satire mocking the fact that this show got made in the first place!
or maybe he's an Idiot Savant.
@@almalone3282 So did a WonderRapist writer. Which explains a lot.
Leslie Headlin went from shuffling Weinsteins victims to his dingeon to being a producer on a multi million dollar Star Wats project. Truly the state of Failing Upwards.
I have a feeling I'll have more dislike than Mauler for having a similar opinion.🤔
nah it's YT algorithm again fuckkng with u, I bet is tune to show your videos to people that already hates u xD btw awesome video "Hollywood... hollywood never changes"
You got a fair amount of bot and tourists already, that I have seen. These sad motherfuckers needs the Sneedclave.
It’s bots gundam Bethesda and Amazon are using them to attack anyone who criticizes the show. Ubisoft is also using bots, if your reading this ask Creetosis how to get rid of them he’s a RUclipsr. He tackled the same problem that you have.
You have a review?
@@VitaliyMilonov indeed
"There's a lot of money in the end of the world"
is the worst motivational concept I've ever heard
I can only guess they meant there was a lot of money to be made from the coming of the end. But who knows, it's not like they were shown to be making profit after the end of the world.
I mean it would make sense if they didn't literally mean nuking everything lol. Realistically if these are completely amoral capitalists which is dumb but still they would want to keep the status quo going and have people be perpetually scared of an imminent nuke that never comes so the gov keep buying vaults that vault-tech won't even have to maintain because at the last minute they would reveal the cold fusion device and end the resource war
Money is power.
Think on that and the concept that euphemisms, innuendo, and subtexts are things that exist.
@@grimjoker5572 thats cope lol also even if thats what they meant it's still wrong what power do they have now that they've destroyed everything?
@@moe5020
That's how humans communicate and is pretty standard writing.
_"also even if thats what they meant it's still wrong what power do they have now that they've destroyed everything?"_
The very existence of any of the Fallout games shows that it doesn't *STAY* destroyed. Their plans may have gone amiss, we don't know, but the part where they predict the ability to rebuild is spot on.
MauLer was so unhappy with the Fallout show that he stopped everything to make a video telling us why. I love it.
I won’t speak for Mauler, but I’m assuming it’s the combination if how bad the show actually is along with the public perception that it’s one of the best video game adaptations. A lot of Mauler’s recent videos seem to try to argue against things that get way more praise than they deserve. From what I see, both Zack Snyder’s Justice League and Fallout have 93% ratings on Rotten Tomatoes despite being pretty terrible.
@@Stoneador yeah, I agree. I have the same sentiment. I don't think Fallout is as bad as for instance Rings of Power or some Disney+ content, but at least those are pretty much universally criticized. The praise this show gets is getting to me and I'm glad MauLer is tearing it down so I can point people here to see how flawed it is
He had to strike while that iron was still hot and people are still gushing about the show, a voice of reason amongst the sea of same opinions
@@hurrly9036This your first time watching a Mauler video. Also your saying the only option is make a terribly written show. Otherwise it would end too soon?
@@snickersbaja7706 HE says it himself in the first five minutes, its gonna be a long rant. This is not a well thought out,scripted video with genuine ciriticism. Its just a long rant .
That minigun really failed to hit an old dude doing a mild shuffle with 200 rounds
It should have been moved back 30-40 feet (a sizeable distance), but that's shockingly accurate to the games and in-line with how robots tend to function in this universe - poorly.
Turrets in 3 hit 1 shot out of a 10 shot burst at a range of about 10-15 feet. I know, because I played it after I watched the show.
@@OKMBVideos the turrets in fallout 4 still hit you and can kill you. The shows writing sucks that not even a bullet grazed him. That just physically impossible to not hit at a target that slow.
Yeah I wish they had changed something to make that possible, like shooting its targeting chip. Easy fix.
@@deadshotkiller5899 I distinctly remember turrets in both New Vegas and 4 absolutely beaming me on Very Hard and hardcore. Lesser models weren't terribly threatening but past the Mk.1s they're extremely dangerous and will shred even power armor within seconds.
On top of that not a single Enclave soldier was able to capture said old dude mildly shuffling away.
I hate how stupid they made Vault tec. In the original game they had a completely logical reason for the experiments, that is, for building of space vessels to escape earth
Yea bro nuke the planet and perform totally random experiments underground so we can go to space. everything in fallout was perfectly logical and consistent until this darn show came out.
@@lsuperior they didn't nuke the planet in the original lore, that's exactly my point lol. The experiments weren't random at all, they were testing various psychological and physiological challenges for generation ships. AltFall did a really good video on how each experiment accomplishes this goal, it's called "Why Every Fallout Vault is Evil".
now technically we don't know if they nuked the planet in the show either. In the meeting they only said that they could start the war by dropping their nuke which could mean they just dropped one and everyone else did the rest or they never needed to and that was just an option to show that they would do anything to do their experiments. Also I'm not exactly sure how even if they dropped a bunch of nukes it would make them stupid that would still allow them to do their test which was one of their main goals of outlasting everyone else.
I'm pretty sure in the fallout lore nuclear war tensions were high and some sort of treaty was gonna be made before nukes started dropping and it was always questioned who dropped them first.
@mesaplayer9636 oh fuck off with this cope, China isn’t even mentioned once in the show, and the only mention of a potential war between the US is regarding one *ending* and ruining Vault Tec’s plans.
oh fuck off "in the original game" there were no fucking experiments, that was shit bethesda brought it, vault tek was only commentary of miss management
fallout: the watch chip, a vital component is broken and there is no back up
Fallout 2: oh a vault got sent hundreds of water chips due to miss management and clerical errors
it wasn't some insane plot that bethesda makes it out to be
The Fallout show is a good example of, if your baseline is so low, even mediocre nonsense appears good.
lol
why yall watch shit you hate
@@jacobhealy8376 I attempted to watch a show about a universe I loved. All I got was a slow and deliberate kick to the gonads. Am I in the wrong? For expecting a show to make sense within it's own logic? (A standard for writing we've had since the 12th century) or is the show wrong for not living up to that very basic standard?
@jacobhealy8376 well Mr. Firstname Lastname four digit number with a generic letter profile picture, because if we didn’t you’d be saying “you didn’t even watch it, how do you know it’s bad.”
I've said this before and I'll say it again:
The Fallout show is like because it meets the writing stand the (Bethesda) games set for it, and the consumer fans think that's a good thing
funny thing about the fridge is that in New Vegas they make the same reference, except theres a skeleton in the fridge because IT WOULDNT WORK
But also you can only see the references if you pick the wildwasteland trait, specifically to not break immersion.
@@billbobagoda4389even then bethesda broke their own rules when in Fallout 4 where you can find a Ghoul kid stuck in a fridge because he hid there when the bombs drop (could not be that reason why the kid hid there since I forgot some parts of that encounter)
"Kid in a Fridge" has got to be peak Bethesda writing.
@@hamoodhabibi1579at least that kid became a ghoul instead of just be completely fine
@@skeltaldelegate5408 hahaha
I think this is the second time I was used as a nipple cover in a video
And it won't be the last
lewd mootal
oh look it's nipple cover, sorry I mean metal cover... f**k I mean nipplesforge.
Metal's ******? O_O
Its very important job, you should be proud
I get the feeling that this show's 1st season is the Force Awakens of Fallout. Everybody likes it, until you start scratching the service and notice the mystery boxes and lensflares.
It's funny, because Fallout 3 already fits the bill for "the Force Awakens of Fallout".
Yep...
Scratch the service?! It's surface
@@galetinm D'oh!
I'd agree with that in that The Force Awakens had its flaws but if followed by a good set of sequels would have been good.
The Fallout show in season 1 is good, not astounding, great compared to everything else we got, but could retroactively be made trash by feckless lack of follow through in seasons 2 and 3.
I hate how people use satire as an excuse to be stupid. Satire requires more effort and intelligence to be done right than people think. Something being stupid is not satire, it's bad writing.
Want to see satire done right, go watch a Mel Brooks or Paul Verhoeven movie outside of Starship Troopers.
I don't think satire is the proper term. Fallout is camp, and ridiculousness works in camp (Hawkmen, dive!)
Remember: When the writing is shit, fans will say it's satire.
Or that it's "intentionally bad".
See also: Knives Out and Glass Onion.
Jesus Christ, the defenders of those movies have single-digit IQs.
I do wonder how that is working for Season 2 of Mindy Kaling's Velma. LOL
Apparently Maximus failing upwards is because he is a 10 luck character ... i kid you not that is the response some people gave me. The fallout fans are cooked in the brain.
@@GideonRavenor712 did that seriously get a 2nd season? ffs i hate everyone and everything, we should burn it all down.
"Why not make everyone dumb?"
When life imitates art.
More "write what you know" I imagine
trying to find that interview, anyone know?
When writers admit they're not able to create characters that are smarter than they themselves are.........
Many years ago I heard someone say "know your limitations", a message that seems to capture most modern-day writers perfectly, as they don't seem to have a single clue what words like story, plots, subplots, continuity, characters and dialogue, you know, your basic storytelling elements, actually mean.
@@dr.martinlutherpepe9532 the joke of the comment was that mauler sounds stupid in his criticism. he is the life, and the OC is the art.
If that's a quote from one of the show writers, then wow, what a huge red flag. Anyone saying that during a job interview for a writer should have been weeded out before the show's writing even started.
In this show it really felt like things only happened because the plot required it to. The most egregious example being that incredibly convenient headless suit of power armor near the end.
The fact they nuked the NCR and didn't at all cover the consequence of a government collapsing while on the brink of famine and with considerable societal divisions is utterly criminal. A divided NCR in Civil War with the Barons, Mormons, various raider factions, and the Legion fighting in the remnants would be 1000x more interesting than the trash they came up with, and would have actually made something of the fall of the most significant Wasteland faction, outside some silly cultists in a vault.
Its insane how much of a waste this show is
How do you know the NCR is gone completely? Not one bit of the show says directly that the NCR has fallen. Only the capital got nuked. Hardly the end of the world for them. But probably paralyzed the government since that's where all big politicians were. What probably happend is the next president became conservative. Instead of the endless expansion they could no longer maintain. Probably pulled out of new vegas and moved the capital to the hub. Also the story isn't about the NCR its about vault tech and what their actual plan was for the vaults. Also before you start screeching about "VAULT TECH DROP THE BOMBS BUHHH" Its only implied that they planned to do so. If they dropped the bombs they would be idiots since they were not at ready for the vaults to be used yet. It's still up in the air on who launched first. Also you can't introduce all that crap from the lore all in one show. It would be constant exposition. They kept it small at first and it's clear they will expand the scope as things go on.
Because todd has a boner for the brotherhood and the NCR killed his dog.
The government didn't collapse, thats entirely something people made up because they assumed the fact that the NCR isn't interested in spending resources holding an irradiated hole in the ground must mean they collapsed instead of them having just pulled resources away from a now mostly useless holding to consolidate their hold on their other territories. Moldaver is literally a member of the NCR, her base is clearly labeled as being an NCR outpost. All signs point to it being the NCR that gave her the resources she was using to try and get that cold fusion thing working. People are literally crying about fanfiction they made up when they say the NCR as a faction has ceased to exist.
@@mizu7662 that would only shift the problem to the ncr being incompetent/stupid
Nothing is better for Mauler's productivity than sheer anger
his unbridled rage, if you will
relatable.
Yesss yeeessss let the anger flow through you.
That is true. When he is mad enough, he allows himself slight deviations from 100% perfect and in result gets more done. His 99% perfect is still better than any other analysis.
kinda keeping myself insulated but there seems to be a ton of hate for the show. unjust hate? so far episode 1. have very poor expectations going into this because of video game adaptations. ep 1 is very strong. got a ton of respect for mooler's opinion but he hates it? going to watch his video after watching the series... can't imagine the show to be trash after ep1 was so good. he is angry at the show?? lucy is likable, the show has intrigue, got nice crazy incest vault cousin lmao. maybe thats why some people looked effed up especially lucy's bro.
“Why not have them be dumb”
Because it insults your audience
And the audience loves it. Apparently.
!!
@@houghtonjojo8944 Many such cases unfortunately
And it's worked.
@@houghtonjojo8944 give it till season 2 when they go "when/why did the show get bad" and we have to go "I told you it was bad at ___" then repeat ad nauseum because the general viewing audience will repeat this process then get confused when things go bad but proceed to forget the warnings.
They should’ve wrote the boardroom scene like this:
“After all, there’s a lot of money to be made at the end of the world.”
*Pan the camera around, show the confused looks of everyone else at the table.
“Think about it… What is the one thing getting in the way between us and the money?… The customers themselves! If we get rid of all the customers… then it’s just us… and the money!”
*Pan the camera around again, show everyone else clapping and calling them a genius.
Fucking genius!
Just because that's how you view modern capitalism (fair) doesn't mean you gotta awkwardly jam it into your show where the focus is supposed to be on War not Capitalism. It's like for all the "Hey look it's Fallout!" moments this show is stuffed to the brim with, they still managed to forget they were making a Fallout show.
Yeah that doesn't sound regarded at all
@@drdino2002 Yeah, I was just saying, if you are going to have dumb commentary, at least be self-aware of how dumb it is. My example pushes the stupidity to the extreme, which if you’re gonna do it, that is how you should do it. Not genuinely playing it seriously like they do in the show.
Plus, I personally think the show bashing capitalism is a bit hypocritical since it’s clear that nepotism is the only reason the writers have their jobs lol
@@Cherokeechuck9 Yeah, it’s better to make a joke out of how dumb it is tho… instead of trying to actually play it seriously like they do.
"lucy mentioned there was a famine, was that you? "🤣🤣🤣
There's many smart writers. None of them work in Hollywood.
nor at Bethesda
@@marcogenovesi8570 Doesn't matter how good the writers are as long as Emil is in charge of the writing.
You don’t need to be a writer to make a good story, these people are motivated by dei ideology.
@@Lobsterwithinternet Emil "Central design documents are too hard to manage" whateverhislastnameisbecauseidontcaretolookitup
@@BaconMinion emil papagarucho
"There's a lot of money to be made at the end of the world"
From who? FROM WHO?!??! THEY'RE ALL DEAD AND MONEY'S GONE.
the writers are communists, they don't understand how capitalism works
They did House so dirty...
The people that are building bunkers now, that's who. Examples: Bezos, Musk, Zuckerboy, etc.
So it all becomes….Dead Money?
The irony too is that Fallout 76 was advertised with this show, and one of the main quest plots of that game is all about how money is worthless in a post-apocalypse economy so a new currency standard has to be set. House of all people even knows this and rebuilt New Vegas around post-apocalypse currencies, because pre-war money has no value.
"Mark my words, this will be just like the Mandolorian, season three will have people wondering how we got here."
He should have added in the line
"And where did that bring you? Back to me."
I hope he reads this comment. That's fantastic. Although given how big a step back Endgame Thanos was, maybe he doesn't want to channel the guy...
Finally, I thought I was going insane being surrounded by everyone glazing this show
It's our responsibility to maintain standards in art and storytelling. The zombie hordes otherwise known as "fans" obviously won't.
@@slicedtopieces i wont rest until everyone on this earth follows the correct opinion
It's really telling that people only listen when a several hundred thousands subscriber big youtuber says this show sucks.
Before this video dropped, any time you dared speak heresy against this show, all the mindless consoomers would come out of the woodwork to jump to its defence.
"But the terrible writing is just a reference to the game"
"You're objectively wrong"
"Shut up and just let people enjoy things"
"You're just a New Vegas elitist"
"No, *_YOU_* haven't played the games"
"[insert other gaslight attempt]"
"I've played all the games, and..." (They're lying and never show any knowledge on Fallout lore)
etc etc etc....
Funny thing is, how much do you want to bet they'll still sing the praises of this show 5 years down the line?
@@CapitalTeeth what shows do people talk about >a year after the latest season ends? Breaking Bad/BCS is the only one I can think of. No one who likes it thinks its on that level. Maybe The Office/Friends but that was more of a revival fad, I don't hear about it anymore.
@@duckchen2676 Some shows because mileage markers for success or failure. I do still see 'Seinfeld' references, and I do still see 'Velma' references.
Patrolling the Mojave makes you wish for an unbridled rage on fallout
👏👏👏👏👏👏 Well played sir, well played 😂😂😂
[{☢}] *_FALLOUT_* was Ußer Radiøactive-levels oƒ *_§HITE._* ☢💀☠💩💩💩☠💀☢
The troops should have just stayed in Baja. Todd and the other Nolan will just destroy New Vegas and Shandy Sands anyways.
Making the real points.
Agreed
“Im not going to cover this show”
*everyone praises the show*
“……i am now forced to cover this show”
Only the normies praise the show
Are act man and critical drinker normies?
@@braydoxastora5584 with the Fallout lore?? yes!!... I mean, just watch the debate, he doesn't have arguments, cause he don't really care about the lore, so is a normie with this IP
@@RootEight Only Tourist, shills, casuals, and bethesda fans praise this show
@@dyliokhan3946 exactly 😁
"The world can progress, move on!"
-The writers
We're going to bring back the dead Enclave and Brotherhood factions!
Also the same writers
Exactly they just want the stagnancy of an anarchistic wasteland because the plebs don't have to think about it
if you dont want a powerful NCR in your show you could either:
A. make your show take place somewhere where the NCR has little to no influence at
or
B. make your show take place in a time where the NCR doesnt exist or isn't at the scale of a country
“Don’t eat diarrhoea just cus there’s corn in there” is an unbelievably hard statement 💀
I think you meant "soft"
fun fact, it isnt corn in your poop. its the little membrane that surrounds the corn filled with poop
"Don't drink urine just cus there's protein in there."
@@kreenbopulusmichael7205That's actually quite a fitting allegory for this show.
Sorry, but it's actually a runny statement since it has no solids.
"Oh No the Writers are a fan of Moviebob" HAHAHAHAHAHA
No way this cant be real.
More like Mr Chipman is just a more honest version of them.
Did i miss that in the video?
@@alexanderb8706 last 5 seconds of video.
@@alexanderb8706 it's a meme in the outro section
I heard a lot of buzz about this show up to and including a buddy of mine highly recommending it to me but then I saw this video and watched a few minutes and realized that MauLer didn’t like the show. I wanted to keep an open mind so I stopped watching MauLer’s video and binge watched the entirety of Fallout last night. It felt like the show was giving me cancer and I wanted someone to put me out of my misery. I am astounded that anyone saw this more than a below average show. MauLer’s video exposes fully the depths of retardation in this show and I am happy to see it on full display. Our standards need to be higher and we need to demand better from our art.
Todd Howard wanted to legalize with this series that he is the "creator" of Fallout. I'm glad a lot of people don't swallow it. Thank you for the material.
They will do it in a while
Let's hope people realize that.
There are more than enough people going for the show. I think it works out for Todd. At least the new mainstream fanbase will see it that way.
@@the_real_inquisitor sounds like tourists and not fans.
@@donovandelozier7156that's what old fans of a lot of stuff I used ro enjoy said. "Its just tourists"
The thise tourists destroyed the things and moved on.
In Lonesome Road, the Courier talks to a character named Ulysses. He talks a lot about the NCR (the Bear) and Caesar’s Legion (The Bull). He talks about their conflict and how it’ll shape the Mojave, but also tells you the player character about the place you’re in, The Divide. Throughout the DLC, you find out that you unintentionally destroyed a civilization there by delivering a device that triggered the nukes buried underground in the silos there. It ruined the town and caused all kinds of monsters to live there. Ulysses sees you as a harbinger of terrible fate, and thinks you might do the same to the Mojave. As you go along Lonesome Road, you see the ruins of this town and understand what Ulysses’s saw in it and why he hates you for it. At the end of the DLC, Ulysses threatens to launch nukes at the NCR’s essential trade route and a Legion settlement. However, if you can convince him that your time in the Divide showed you that you have the conviction to make a choice over who leads to Mojave, instead of being a mindless drone, Ulysses helps you disable the nukes, keeping them safe. In the ending slideshow of the DLC, Ulysses himself knows that war never changes, but he adds something to the end, that people can change by the roads they walk, and that they have to to secure a better future. The TV show shits on all of that by showing us this universe will never change, and that Bethesda want to keep it in limbo forever
Hmm almost as if that's the entire premise of the franchise since the beginning? And the sentence that's been said over and over ad nauseum? Idk, could just be me.
@@ryudhalwhat? Are you referring to the war war never changes?
To be fair while I also share the most optimistic view of lonesome roads ending, Avellone doesn't. He also wanted to end the NCR's time since the series was getting too civilized, since he couldn't do it outright he wrote in the tunnelers, a monster species made to end the Mojave in 5-10 years. I've now just accepted, that the direction we all want is just not gonna happen.
@@anafu-sankanashi8933The tunnelers existing isn't a finality.
If Mr House ending was canon he could easily deal with the tunnelers and wipe them out with his robot army.
They may cause damage to the mojave and make it even more dangerous but so long as House is in charge he'll find a way.
Not like anything like that will happen now unless this show get's decanonized but ya know.
@@anafu-sankanashi8933 I doubt that Avellone would have decided to Nuke the NCR off-screen. Even on his worst day, he could think of something better than that. Now whatever he would write, assuming they ever let him touch Fallout again, would have to create this stupid universe.
Hey How long before the Glamour wears off and everyone admits Mauler was right.
Presumably when the next season releases.
I'll give it up til mid season 3
A few months, like with any Bethesda product.
It will probably nuke itself by S3, just like Mandalorian or Witcher. Hodd Toward and his sidekick Elm, Mr why not make them dumb, and whoever the woman is, aren't really great writers considering their resume.
They ruined Frederick Sinclair too. Why would he build the Sierra Madre for Vera since he could have just bought a vault just for her. Also, he was a good man and would never consider experimenting on people like the Vaults do
Exactly, I always just saw him as a bit of a turbo simp for Vera, not a damn megalomaniac, his worst crime seems to be trusting all of the tech Big MT sold him. Speaking of which, why tf did the show make him Big MT’s representative? Last I checked he just bought from Big MT, he didn’t run the place.
@@Slender_Man_186 Don't know. I've seen people argue that he was the one that held the most stock in Big MT. But it's clearly bs. They also can't backtrack it since it's been confirmed in the credits that it's Sinclair.
Because the show writers want to pull remember berries. My main problem with the show is it's cannon why can't we have the show cannon and the game cannon.
_"Why would he build the Sierra Madre for Vera since he could have just bought a vault just for her."_
Ah, so you didn't play Dead Money. He considered that but the Vaults weren't good enough for her. He didn't want to live in some cramped little basement. He wanted a grand palace where they could ride out the apocalypse, with all the amenities the wealthy could want.
_"Also, he was a good man and would never consider experimenting on people like the Vaults do"_
No he wasn't; he knew what Big MT. did, he was involved with them. He just didn't think they'd do it to him.
@@grimjoker5572 wow here we go with the assumptions. I did play Dead Money. And never was there any indication that Sinclair was in bed with Vault-Tec. Also, he was never supposed to have a stock in Big MT, he was a customer of theirs, maybe the showrunners didn't play Dead Money and Old World Blues. And also, if te knew what the vaults were, he would know they are not cramped little basements, in fact they are way more spacious than the little vault with the gold at the heart of the madre but oh well. Also, while he was ok with having the Madre and the Villa acting as proving grounds for experiments by the Big MT people, he wasn't aware that their previous experiments ended badly. Also, why did he spit some ideas for vault experiments instead of just asking for the construction of a spacious safe vault for Vera and also himself instead of just purchasing the services of various third parties to build a village, and a casino and more advanced devices. He was boastful but the worst thing he did was set up a trap for two people who wanted to rob him blind and EVEN THEN he regretted it and tried to undo it at the cost of his life.
The Fallout writers:
"I wish we could go back to the *90's* perspective on capitalism."
The 90's perspective on capitalism;
"There is no money to be made in the end of the world."
~Kingpin, 90's Spider-Man cartoon.
They really adapted Todd Howard's infamous "It Just Works" quote into an entire show.
"Watch this, our newest release,
The legendary series you've missed for years
comes back, get ready for some action!
We've got some plotholes here, some inconsistencies there,
The fans will fix them anyway, so we don't care!
They'll make sure this show starts gaining traction."
16 TIMES THE PLOT HOLES!
@@loremaster6828
"What's wrong with fighting over some guy's head?
Come on brother, you've seen nothing yet!
Our annihilation of Mr House's characterization will become a new sensation on the internet!
Just shut up and give us your every dime!
Turning parents into Ghouls is not a crime!
Our writers could eat Lucy's mom alive, so
*Buy Fallout 4 One More Todd-damn time!"*
No joke, almost quite literally.
So many people who live in the wasteland speak like they aren't actually from the wasteland.
Oi, whadya mean buddy, das pretty offensive to say that everyone sounds the same in the desert, you wot mate
NCR heartland shouldn't be a wasteland to begin with. But somehow it looks less civilized than F4 Commonwealth
@@freevertibirdrides7437 Todd's understanding of lengths of time rivals JJ's understanding of distances between planets and star systems in space.
@freevertibirdrides7437 nah bro just ignore Junktown, The Hub, Boneyard, Neceopolis, San Diego, San Fran, Arroyo, Vault City, New Reno, Redding, and Dayglow, you’re just nitpicking and obviously 11 other whole ass cities couldn’t possibly make a difference.
Yes this is sarcasm.
@Slender_Man_186 exactly, just like in real life! Remember how Japan seized to exist after Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and its people returned to Stone Age? Legends say that Japanese are living in caves and shacks made from scrap up until this day. This show has totally nailed it. Anyone who criticizes this masterpiece is obviously a toxic, gatekeeping, New Vegas loving hater who prevents poor fanboy victims from enjoying things by merely existing.
The Fallout franchise has been creatively bankrupt for over 15 years. This show has been made for people who enjoy games like Fallout 76.
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Fucking finally, I thought I was going insane with the kids thinking this was a brilliant show.
the ghoul starts willy nilly tossing the vials everywhere in the superduper mart without regard for the fact that they are in glass bottles that shit should be more valuble than gold for him.
Reminds me of the part in Boba Fett and Mad Max where they just spill all the precious water without care.
He was just handed basically a huge base with a ton of supplies, he doesn't even NEED the bounty anymore, he should be setting up shop.
@@billjacobs521Now that would be smart writing and we cannot have that in our Bethesda Fallout
@@billjacobs521
He doesn't NEED it to begin with; he does it because he likes it.
@@kevinmayfield6182 the fuck are you on about? there's so much to the drug operation than just going back and setting up shop, clearly he doesn't want to do all the bullshit to get the operation back up and running, if he gets the bounty, something he is really good at then he's set for life dumbass.
but noooooo you don't understand, it's just that EVERY. SINGLE. CHARACTER. has INT 1 and LUCK 10, its just like the gaaaaaame.
Except the turret shooting the doctor and the dog, that one has LUCK 1
@@markwakefield2030 The turret had INT 10 and 1 in all other stats. It had also taken the "Genre Savvy" and "Has Read the Script" perks, so it knew not to hit Doctor McGuffin or Dogmeat.
@@exhumedlegume8870 lmao
Don't forget their other SPECIAL stats just randomly increase and decrease like if they took status effects like coffee or drugs like crazy. "I can shoot through PA once but can't every other time with better weapons".
The show is good, and you can cope all you want lol.
Maximus survived a nuke by climbing into a fridge. It's been proven that old refrigerators will save you from a nuclear attack.....except no one points out this one has a big hole in the back. 😂
Moreover, the games (New Vegas) actually poke fun at this with a skeleton inside of a fridge outside of a destroyed town. A reference to that one scene from Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull.
So, accuracy to the games is paramount until it goes against what's in the show, eh?
And Yellowflash says that this show respects the lore and source material. I knew he was a grifter but his praise for this show makes that as clear as day.
lol yall are eating yourselfs over this show its great
@@Crocthunderis it great that they are eating themselvs or that the ip is getting worse with each product it produces?
@@Crocthunder Don't think! Just consume product!
@@CrocthunderYou're a teenager furry, you shouldn't even be allowed to live much less give your redacted opinions on the internet. All your comments are impossibly regarded.
@@Mereologist It a TV show, who care. We are gamers, we want good game. If the show is bad for some or great for other, it doesn't matter because it's a tv show.
Wouldn't Vault Tec's optimal business conditions be where there's a continued threat of nuclear war but it never actually happens?
Yes. But considering that in the show they supposedly "own half of everything" why would they even be all that invested in the vaults and the continuation of the war anyway? Sounds like they'd keep making tons of profits either way 🤷♀️ why would they see profit in destroying most of their own enterprise?
@@johankarlsson1776 That is effectively what the conclusion was in the lore PRIOR to this show.
In 2077, while the Great War would begin in October of that year, Vault-Tec had already come up with its 2078 plans for the company's intended direction. They had discovered from the outrageous success of one of their more R&D oriented Vaults, that there was ENORMOUS profit to be made by simply pumping all of the defense contract money into R&D, as all new inventions or innovations made would all be Vault-Tec property and products, which could then be used not only to further outfit the Vaults themselves, but to sell on the open market for pure profit.
In essence, they were making more money from producing technology and stuff AROUND the Vaults than actually making Vaults themselves, and they intended to base their future profits off of that, going forward if war did not occur. But the nukes fell in that year.
Absolutely Vault-Tec has a vested interest in keeping the threat of a potential Nuclear War or global disaster going, because otherwise their defense contracts run out, but an actual war destroys them as a company no different than if that hysteria vanishes.
Exactly, which is entirely what their business model became, in-lore before this show. Specifically, transitioning the company to a more R&D focus because the profit there was huge.
Now, one could argue that there is a difference between Vault-Tec's public face, and their Enclave-controlled backroom, but The Enclave merely anticipated the war eventually heating up and prepped accordingly, they themselves didn't start it either. Nor did most who worked for Vault-Tec knew about the connection either.
In terms of Vault-Tec as a company, as far as 99% of its employees knew, its ideal situation is that the hysteria continues, but no nukes actually fly, and while that 1% may have known the nukes would eventually fly they didn't want to see it happen immediately, nor knew exactly when because they had no direct power over the situation.
Nah that's like saying that the best way to sell your game is to keep telling people it's going to come out soon but it never actually comes out. You get to a point of diminishing returns until the business Falls because it's been so long that people stop believing that it will actually come
@@captainfach problem is that makes sense for just about every instance except the end of the world though. Diminishing returns is better than civilisation coming to an end. I mean what does a monopoly matter if there's no economy to rule and no services and products to spend your gains on?
Todd: We are careful about timeline... LOL! You guys blow up Shady Sands, a capital of NCR, the same year they are fighting Caesar's Legion for Hoover Dam. Not to mention that they relocate Shady Sands.
Todd Howard never cared about lore or continuity, nor does anyone else working at Bethesda. Him saying it doesn't mess with the lore is like someone blind telling me I look nice.
what if it was super canonical and the places the courier bombs in the lonesome roads is shady sands..
@@LukeTEvans It was clearly stated that the Long 15 was what got hit. It's also explained that it will mess up the NCR's supply lines to the Mojave, not the NCR themselves in California.
They also fucked up the time the bombs dropped in the opening minutes, which itself is Bethesda lore, the clocks in Fallout 3 are all stopped at about 9:45am and Fallout 4’s opening backs that up, that would be around 6:45am on the west coast where this show takes place. Who tf has a birthday party that early?
Best faith interpretation. Although, Todd hasn’t said in a interview if that’s what happened or not, so as far as I’m concerned that’s a negative
It feels like the show is walking in Fallout 4’s footsteps where for a few weeks after release it gets nothing but praise and admiration but then following a few months people actually begin critiquing it and the realization that you had nostalgia glasses on and you see the glaring issues that make any repeated watching/playthroughs a chore
Oh, Todd's commercial to get people back into his buggybugfests.
Remember, in The Walking Dead, when The Governor kept his zombie daughter as a pet and that was shocking and disturbing? That's Moldaver.
Except ghouls aren't zombies
@@fffx2 ferals are
Yeah, back there it was presented as the disturbed actions of a deeply disturbed man trying to uphold to himself the decomposed fiction of his own humanity. A monster fooling himself pretending he was still a caring father and a community leader, when he was actually a vicious violent mad man. Here, we have the vicious and disturbed mad person and the community leader, but the story doesnt seem to recognize the first aspect as a fact while elevating the second aspect as the truth of the character.
@@max7971 To Bethesda, yeah.
@@fffx2Not according to Bethesda.
Technically the show shouldn't even exist because if Vault 33 has its entrance out in the open in the Boneyard, then the Master should have raided it for Prime Normals
EXACTLY! With what this show sets up, Lucy’s ancestors should’ve been turned into super mutants over 100 years before this show takes place, and those super mutants should’ve probably found and busted open Vault 13 before the water chip goes bad and kicks off Fallout 1’s plot.
@@Slender_Man_186
Thankfully Vault 13 was located over 300 miles away and hidden inside a mountain. The Master would have eventually found Vault 13 had their water chip not fail. But Vaults 4, 31, 32, and 33 would have been immediately found thanks to their Vault doors being on the surface in plain view of everyone.
I think the Fallout show runners and writers just simply erased the Master and the Unity from existence. It's the only way to explain why there are no mention of supermutants in the series so far. This is a malicious destruction of Fallout lore.
Maybe Master actually found the vault. But then he realised everyone inside is a moron and decided to just leave them alone, afraid that whatever caused them to be so stupid is contagious.
I mean the only people who really care are those that played the first 2 games 🤷🏻♂️
@@Captianmex1C0Its still relevant, as the setting is based on the first 2 games.
The brotherhood of steel is Todd’s favorite faction, so of course they have to be front and center
I thought his favorite faction was Enclave. Avellone even said that Todd "apparently had a large hard-on" for the Enclave.
@@VitaliyMilonovisn't the enclave a remnant nowadays in Lore?
@@isauldron4337
Todd: DIDN'T HEAR YOU. TRY LOUDER!!!
The faction that he changed the most and basterdised the hardest
@@VitaliyMilonov ah i get it now
Sending a young, attractive, naive woman alone into the wasteland with perhaps zero information or means to defend herself?
She would have been dead or sold as a slave within a day.
When you come out of vault 111 as Nora that doesn't immediately happen to you either so idk what you are basing this off of
@@mesaplayer9636 that's a game tho. In a live action show it's a lot harder to believe whereas in a game you just justify it by player skill keeping them alive
Drinker v Mauler is the captain America civil war of Efap
Who is Hawkeye though? Az?
@@jonbaxter2254Why Az?
@@MegaSpideymanHe kinda looks like him
I might be misremebering Civil Wars plot. When did Tony get triggered by one of his friends liking a show he hated to the point that he dropped everything for 11 days to write an essay about why Steve is wrong?
This storm in a teacup is making Longman look like an insecure cringe man. What happened to chill disagreements when folks feel different about a show? I guess those only happen when Longman likes the show (LOU or Andor etc.)
@captbuckyohare5585 I can't imagine being you who takes this so seriously, lol
The best part of the "Bud's Buds" plan? The NCR was founded by OTHER former Vault dwellers. So were many other topside civilizations that Bud and his Buds were apparently never told about by Vault-Tec.
Oh bloody… You right
Yep. They gave Vault 15 cold fusion technology that could replicate matter, purify water etc. and that same cold fusion technology was used to create Shady Sands.
Fucking this
I thought it was weird the second i saw it
The cold fusion technology plot in the show doesn't make sense. Since micro fusion technology is well established in every single game. Powering vaults, cities, weapons, and even vehicles.
The Holy GECK from Fallout 2 could cleanse the wasteland and rejuvenate the soil for planting crops. Thanks to its micro fusion technology. It also came with a pen light. Vault 8, and eventually Vault 13, used their GECK to establish their city. They ran into the problem of needing electrical power to expand. Also, there was radiation leaking into the ground water. You go to Gecko to find a power plant still in operation by Ghouls. You had the choice of destroying it or fixing it. By fixing it. Vault City would be able to expand and turn into a regional power. This would help in negotiating with NCR and keep the Mob bosses running New Reno at bay.
The control Vaults are working as designed. Who would have thought otherwise? But Bethesda and Amazon would just nuke it out of existence. Because they want a Mad Max setting. Forgetting that there were settlements and towns with functioning economies, government, courts, and police forces. It was out in the wasteland and on the roads where you ran into motorized gangs. Which were led by brutal men like Toe Cutter and Lord Humongous.
The irony of the show hating capitalism. Freetrade, contracts, and capitalism exist after the apocalypse.
Of course they were never told by Vault-Tec. That was always the case.
The Book of Eli was a better example of Fallout in media than the fallout show
You're the only other commenter I've seen bring up that film. You're exactly right though. It gets the look and the tone just right.
@@slicedtopieces you get it.
Normies won't :(
Holy crap I haven't heard that title in so long. And you're absolutely right.
Gahd damn I love that movie
Book of eli so good
It is pretty simple though, this show follows the modern Bethesda logic.
All the richest people in the world.IRL Destroying the world economy and making shelters in Hawai.
Like Mauler your wrong because you are logical.
Bethesda "writers" just don't read their own IP's source material. Cold Fusion powers the GECK. They didn't know that the main mcguffin of their TV show was the standard component of the main mcguffin of not one, but two Fallout games. It's not rare, it's not new, it's mundane.
it also doesn't make sense that a cold fusion reactor is the main trinket everybody wants in a show where there are hundreds of FUSION CORES in every vault and suit of power armor
@@sjfs231 Hmm... not exactly. The TX-28 fusion pack only provides 60kW of power, which is enough to run a T-51b power armor for 200 years. Micro fusion cells provide bursts of high energy to power energy weapons and they deplete very fast. The GECK is specifically described as having cold fusion, and we know next to nothing about how a GECK actually works, so its energy source is likely very different from the two other forms of fusion that are regularly used.
@@Plutonia001 just make a bigger one genius, like the ones that take up whole rooms in the vaults
Build me a rage worthy of being unbridled
Give me, a rage to build a dream on, and my imagination, will build upon that rage...
Seeing the clip of the gun turret missing its TWO TARGETS 20 FT AWAY without giving even a ricochet graze was the showrunners' way of maniacally laughing at the gullible, sycophantic audience's stupidity in gulping down their slop no matter what is served.
That sequence alone should've been enough to spark someone's brain & start asking questions about AmaSauron's/Bugthesda's show.
well you see in games programmer put a value into turret's accuracy variable that gives them a chance to miss for the purposes of gameplay, therefore its okay for it to not hit anything in the show.
@@tastethecock5203 which is literally true because why shouldnt it be?
The slowest person outrunning a mini gun 🤔 seems believable
It's referencing the game and changed nothing about the plot. It could have never happened in the show and nothing outside of that scene before and after it would have changed. You are way overthinking the intention of the scene. It's not for the director to get off on the idea that the audience will consume slop. There are many other problems in the show, many stated in this video, the turret scene was not one of them.
The only point of criticism is that the turret could have been a bit further away. That's really all you have going for you.
@mesaplayer9636 That's a lot of words when you could've just said, _"It's a member-berry, so just turn off your brain about what would make sense."_
If that's the case, then it shouldn't have been made into a show series in the first place.
Trust me, there's more than just this scene to be critical of with this show that _"wasn't made for the fans,"_ according to the showrunners. I merely pointed out one of hundreds & I don't want this to turn into a posted novel.
It's so good to finally find someone with an extensive video on why the Fallout series is so, so bad.
Most angry boys would just pee on the wall (apparently), Mauler was bullied into making a 2.5 hour video breakdown of how bad this show is. Respect!
Unga bunga.
Making a 2.5 hour video about a show you didn't care about just to prove a couple of your good friends wrong after having an argument on a stream isn't respectable. It's cringe small dick energy.
Making a 2.5 hour video about a show you don't actually care about which is based on a property you don't really engage with all because a couple of friends disgreed with you on a live stream isn't respectable.
It's cringe small pee-pee energy.
@@captbuckyohare5585
*"a show you don't actually care about"*
*"a property you don't really engage with"*
*"because a couple of friends disgreed with you on a live stream"*
Did you get your Armchair Psychobabble diploma from Cringe Small Pee-Pee University?
@@captbuckyohare5585 lol, I can't believe we live in a world where people taking the time and effort to explain their points of view using logic and facts and then uploading that for youtube money and our enjoyment is seen as cringe.
God damn somebody really drop the ball on educating their kids.
Instead of Vault-Tec dropping the bombs themselves, I think it would’ve been more interesting to have them to conspire to increase hysteria about the impending nuclear apocalypse through the media. More fear means more vaults. This plan could have backfired by having the hysteria reach a fever pitch, eventually resulting in chaos or jingoistic rhetoric turning into action.
This actually would have been a better analogy criticizing capitalism, since it points out the self-destructive nature of an infinite growth mindset (in my mind). At least it’s a more intelligent analogy than “they’re bad because they’re corporations” lol
I don't thin it ever explicitly says vault tec did drop it themselves. It was just a dramatic pitch during a business meeting. They probably did just pull strings to cause the war to happen.
I'd like to make a suggestion to that good idea: The Chinese learn of Vault-tec's advertisements and believe that the Americans believe that nuclear war is imminent (they don't understand the separation between what the companies of the country believe and what the government of that country believes), so they escalate the conflict further with the US responding in kind. There, now everyone gets a slice of the satirism pie when everyone presumes the worst over an increased threat that no on bothered to confirm.
@@Alfred5555
That’s fair, but I think the general point still stands. I don’t think it makes any sense for Vault-Tec to believe that the nuclear apocalypse would be beneficial to their bottom line. Money doesn’t mean anything when society doesn’t exist.
Also, I think them causing the nuclear war contradicts the point about Vault-Tec’s fiduciary responsibility. Fiduciary responsibility results in corporations being incentivized to maximize profits in the short term in order to boost investor profit. If Vault-Tec makes money by selling vaults, they have nothing to gain by causing the end of the world. You can’t build and sell vaults when the world is already over.
That’s why I think my idea makes a little more sense. Vault-Tec would be incentivized to increase the demand for vaults, and they would do that by fanning the flames of hysteria and suspicion in society. Since they are trying to maximize profits, it could be conceivable that they eventually end up overdoing it, causing the end of the world
@@Alfred5555 The problem is that their reasoning for even considering destroying the end of the world is absolutely insane.
@@pvt.gaminggummybear6337 But you're missing the point, It's not supposed to make sense. It's valt tec, they're an evil company with ideological delusions, that explains everything. We even see a shadowed figure seemingly send a message to Barb while overlooking the board meeting making sure that the pitch of "destroy the world so we can rule it all" is sold. I assume that shadowy figure is the ultimate owner of vault tec, maybe an Enclave guy, maybe Mr. House or the Master, something like that.
They're not trying to make money in the short term, you're just randomly adding your own ideas of real world corporations. This is a story, wherein an evil ideological company, makes a pact with other evil companies but who only really care about profits, to change the world in such a way that they will essentially rule everything. The board meeting even starts with the other companies pointing out that vault tec is struggling financially and is hardly a business competitor to them i.e. vault tec doesn't care about money, they already built all their vaults without special funding deals. Vault tec's idea of "investment" is getting more people on board, more people into the vaults, more ideas for vault experiments.
It is only a board meeting, CEOs regularly lie to secure investment, vault tec is the definition of this, believing their own lies half the time too.
They do need money to build their vaults, the vaults that will carry out their ideals of world recreation, this is the sales pitch to secure the pact with other companies, but Bud never talks about money, he talks about managerialism and time efficiency, mainly in the context of "beating the reds", never is it said to be about money, you're just adding that to the script yourself. It's an on-screen representation of the meme, "How can we make more money? "Money? Why would we want more money?" The joke that unbridled pure capitalism is actually still less destructive and disturbing that ideologues.
You're idea doesn't disagree with the idea that vault tec just pulled strings to cause the war, rather than literally dropping nukes themselves. Only issue being that vault tec explicitly wants the apocalypse to happen. This isn't just a new thing with the tv show, vault tec was always a super-governmental, likely Enclave adjacent, plot to, if not destroy and recreate the world, to directly take advantage of the likely apocalypse if it happens, Barb even says "we should hedge out bets". This has always been the lore of Fallout.
That animated battle between the brotherhood and the NCR on RUclips has so much better action then this very expensive Amazon show does. smh
Gonna have to check that out thanks
@@rhouck8407 SODAZ Fallout sunburst wip is what OP is talking about.
One of the best Fallout fan animations of all time
I'm just sad that i can't like this video more then once!
I "love" how the plot revolves around a cold fusion reactor. You know, the thing that every vault canonically has 2 of in a GECK. You know, the thing that was used by the NCR multiple times to form itself (including Shady Sands long before the NCR existed). Yeah, that thing.
I saw a lot of people completely overlook that the GECK completely nullifies the entire plot of the show and that this show retcons the GECK by saying cold fusion was invented by Moldaver
The plot revolves around the cold fusion catalyst, which is the tech they need to actually use, maintain, and replicate the cold fusion technology. The only reason they end up able to actually have the opportunity to exploit the technology for societal advancements is because of the scientist guy who deserts with the catalyst in hand.
Maybe it wasn't made clear enough for you to understand in the show, but I understood it just fine. There was nothing wrong with the lore aspect nor the plotting.
@@ryanhall5360 That makes no sense. If cold fusion tech exists on the scale that we see in the Fallout universe, (Fusion Cores, or the even more common Fusion Cells,) then it stands to reason that there is or was some common method to produce such tech. Given the amount of technological reclamation we see the NCR engage in throughout the series, as well as the fact that the Van Graffs managed to create a successful industry out of selling energy weapons in bulk, it is safe to assume that the knowledge of how to, (in your own words,) use, maintain, and replicate cold fusion tech is very much still present in the post-war world. Hell, the Brotherhood basically wouldn't be able to function without such capabilities. And before you say it, no, cold fusion doesn't have to be 'cold' in the typical sense of the word, that's a misnomer. To be 'cold' fusion, the reaction has to be sustainable at room temperatures.
How about the robots that have been running for 200 years on no external battery
@@ryanhall5360 Except Stanislaus Braun was the inventor of the cold fusion device not the Enclave. Bethesda completely write him out of the plot. Plus, there was never any mention of the usage of a catalyst to make the GECK's.
Oh, another fun fact: the BoS member Max sees right after the nuke goes off at Shady Sands? That's the EAST COAST BROTHERHOOD logo on his chest armor. The East BoS is the only chapter of the entire BoS which puts the largest gear to the RIGHT of the sword - all others, including West Coast, put it on the LEFT.
Why does that matter? Because whether the nuke went off in 2277 or 2281, the East Coast BoS was still stuck in DC fighting Super Mutants. Maxson had not yet risen to command it and would not for years after. They had no ability to go back West, and did not have the Prydwen yet.
But per Todd Howard, in order to resolve the "2277 nuke problem", the nuke happened right after the events of New Vegas - in 2281.
This show has a Brotherhood in it that CANNOT be in it without retconning both Fallout 3 and 4.
The nuke on shady sands going one or after 2281 like Todd said would also change the ages of Max and Lucy making them barely 21 at time of show
Great catch
Hey! They are very careful about timeline.
And than you have the morons that just ... eat it all up and nod to everything Todd says.
Ha... Padmes Line "This is how liberty dies. With thunderous applause." can be applied to Fallout. Just swap Liberty with Fallout :D
Probably overworked editors flipping footage without realizing that the result is actually lore relevant.
And I just love how they retcon everything the originals had introduced.
I fucking hate modern writers
Amazon: “So what did we do wrong?”
Mauler: *takes deep breath*
Longman: Sit your ass down and grab a nuka cola!
As an addition - Shady Sands was founded by... VAULT DWELERS from Vault 15, who got GECK's specifically to create cities on the surface after war. So vault tec basically created Shady Sands to destroy it because of CoMpEtItIoN
ah, the great game of Capitalism!
The NCR is made up of 3 vault societies. Arroyo, Shady Sands and, Vault City. So it can’t even be a case of competition.
It’s really weird that Bud wouldn’t just reintroduce his super managers into this society. If they are as good as he thinks they are they should easily get voted into seats of power. Instead he hits a reset button for no reason.
Ahh, the problem of trying to implement Your "grand plan" around 200 years after the first vaults opened... And you are using lackeys that have been on ice and living under a rock the entire time with a failing vault... While you know full well that the surface is habitable. What have you been waiting for these 200 years? Vault jesus to come out of the sky and tell you the time is now? This screams middle management incompetence.
It would have been infinitely easier for his people to just come out and go into politics. The NCR is a democracy people are voted in. Is Bud just so incompetent that he doesn’t believe his managers can manage. I think the writers don’t know what the NCR really is or where it came from.
@@MultiKbarry it would also make more sense for this to happen around the same timeframe as Fallout 1 or slightly after it instead of post new Vegas, the initial threat of the super mutants gone giving them a false sense of security to try to take over for themselves with their failure allowing the Enclave to start making their move leading to the events of Fallout 2. You don't have to worry about the NCR, you switch out the power armour to T-51 series the plot would only need minor tweaks and you have a much more logical timeframe to things with Vegas in season 2 being a setting before Mr House. A better and less restrictive setting when it comes to lore infringement than trying to catch all the events that could happen in New Vegas.
The real question is, why does nobody carry stimpacks when they’re essential to survival. You think Maximus’ Knight would carry them himself if they can save your life in a heartbeat (like we do in the games). Why would you want your squire to hold them? I’d rather hold them.
That's a good question actually. Why brotherhood armored knights let their unarmored serfs armed with pistols carry stimpacks for them? If a servant gets killed by a random stray bullet then the knight will have to locate his corpse and loot stimpacks off his corpse, instead of carrying essential supply on their own, when they are wearing power armor, and stimpacks weight literally nothing.
@@tastethecock5203 WTF armoured knights dont even have an escape latch to get out of their armour!! LOL
Kinda weird their armour also doesn't have any emergency protocol to auto inject an stimpack (even if it's just one dose), since that is also a thing in the games. Hell you don't even need PA for something like that lol.
because realistically how is he going to stim midfight and in the armor can he even hold a stim in the suit? Also you would want someone else ideally a medic to check your wounds and apply stims or whatever else you need because self-administering stuff is a lot harder.
@@moe5020 why do you need a squire that's unarmoured and carrying a huge pack back ? He is more a hindrance than anything else
Thank god there are people who feel the same as me about this show!
they litteraly made the inspiration for vault boy a guy named "howard".
no todd, you didn't create fallout and no amout of dumb symbolism is gonna change it.
Woudn't be surрrised if the guy unironically wants to rewrite history and be remembered as "the fallout creator".
@@VitaliyMilonov that reminds me of how people kept saying "Silent Hill without Kojima isn't Silent Hill" when it was rumoured that Silent Hills was being developed again, without Hideo involved, despite him not having been involved with a single Silent Hill game prior to that.
@@NimbusTM I still wouldn't mind seeing a Silent Hill game from Kojima. He's shown he can make a good horror in that demo.
@@VitaliyMilonov
Academy of Interactive Arts & Sciences called him the Legendary Creator of Elder Scrolls and Fallout.
@@VitaliyMilonov I agree, I was just bringing that up as an example of how people easily forget the true origins of a franchise, which is annoying.
That's the problem every time you have a "villain" be secretely good ast the end.
Because they usually act truly villanious when we first see them to throw them off our scent, and act redeemed after we know they're good. But they still killed, maimed and brutalised people?
What, were they keeping cover? They still did those things!
Only female villains tho.
She is not a 'good' character as evidenced by how she does things, she's more of a 'I'll do whatever it takes to achieve my ultimate goal' kind of character.
The NCR has never been unilaterally good.
I don’t think she’s supposed to be “good” that’s not how the characters are portrayed. no one is good or bad. All these people do fucked up things and they all think they are good. that’s the whole point
People keep misunderstanding Lee Moldaver. MauLer too apparently . Look It's implied that Rose became Moldavers significant other.
And while she may want to save humanity as a whole, that doesn't mean she's above personal revenge. Wanting to save humanity, and wanting personal revenge; often go hand in hand in story telling.
And considering her oldest enemy is Vault Tech, and that Hank is also Vault Tech; it makes perfect sense, from her perspective at least; to get revenge on both Vault Tech and Hank at the same time.
And the best way to do that, is to have her men slaughter Vault Techs carefully cultivated populace; right in front of them.
And you've got to remember that Moldaver is used to the wasteland by now, especially after Shady Sands and Rose.
Which means that at this point, she probably doesn't really care if Lucy and her brother end up dying; blinded by vengeance as she is, because they're also *Hanks* kids.
And seeing Hank suffer, while also getting that code from him; is her ultimate goal during that attack.
Hypocrisy is like violence, if you only let your enemies use it; they win. - Lee Moldaver
When the writers of the show spent their entire career failing upward, you can expect their work to reflect.
Mauler, whatever you’re currently being paid (for RUclips or whatever), it’s not enough. 10/10
I usually agree with most of what Mauler says, sometimes he's harsher than I am or sometimes he finds a detail I totally glossed over.
But when I tell you this man grabbed every gripe I had with the show out of my brain - EVEN DOWN TO THE DAMNED YODEL BACKING TRACK FOR THE GHOUL
This is the most cathartic Mauler video to date.
Same. I still have some major gripes over some of Mauler's points that he's been too harsh or just plain wrong on (His 'Superman destroyed a ship full of Kryptonian babies' argument still baffles me), but this one is spot on.
Me too. I knew the writing wasn't good but I couldn't articulate why. Also, the Behind The Scenes interviews with the show runners clinched it for me. ("But what if they were all stupid?" and "Reference! Reference! Reference"). They had NO plan or desire to make anything good. I only feel sorry for the prop and set decorator people, who clearly poured their heart and souls into this show by following all the source material to the letter.
@KneelB4Bacon and people keep saying we don't like it because it "isn't like the games!!1111!" but no? The show's own writing fails it as a narrative before it fails it as an adaptation.
Finally someone talks about how the Ghoul knew the power-armor weakspot but cant one shot Maximus
(Edit) The original reply has been deleted. Oh well.
@@DylanjrvsYou are correct that every character lives and dies by the hand of the writer(s). The problem is that in some cases, characters survive things that they shouldn't, as established in the story elsewhere.
THAT is plot armor. That is the complaint.
It is established that the Ghoul knows how to one-shot power armor, and has the skills to do so. But on Maximus, he just UNLOADS, knowing it won't even pierce the suit. The writer needed him later, so he doesnt die... when it is established he absolutely SHOULD.
Not a Fallout player myself, but power armor being able to get one-shot seems like a bit of a stupid thing. Still, the show establishes it, mainly to get the Ghoul out of a situation he probably should also not survive (5 or so members of Brotherhood vs one ghoul). Plot armor begat plot armor in this show...
@@janbosch5951 And Walter White probably shouldn't of survived blowing up Tuco's drug den with fake meth but guess what it's freaking show so who cares.
@@Dylanjrvs I do care, and that was a stupid scene. Still, the work done on Walts characterisation + arc gets me through the rest of the show. Few things are perfect, but Breaking Bad (obviously) has a MINESCULE fraction of the blemishes Fallout has.
Not that I expect every show to be on par with Breaking Bad anyways, but putting some real work into character is how you get people to connect to a story, warts and all.
You already know what I have to say about Fallout's characters tho
@Dylanjrvs Except Arcane sets up Vi and Jinx (and everything about them) in 2.5 episodes and develops them over the 9 episodes.
Past, present or future, meaningful charactarisation CAN be done. It takes effort and disipline, but it's POSSIBLE.
As for the "rage baiting"; call me naïve, but I think Mauler was just fed-up with the amount of (largely undeserved) praise the show was getting.
@@janbosch5951 I don't care about a show about League of Legends (Like really?) It looks like anime no thanks.
*GET THAT JELLY MOLD OUT OF HERE* - The Fallout Show 2024
Can't wait to sink 2.5 hours of my life into this. MauLer is definitely one of my absolute f-ing favorite youtube personalities. Thanks in advance!
Besthesda Fallout: "War, war never changes... " (Stuck in a loop)
Interplay/Obsidian Fallout: "War never changes... Men do, through the roads they walk." (Closing the phrase with a hopeful tone and moving on)
Based
Except 1 and 2 build up the Brotherhood only for New Vegas to be like "yeah that one town that was barely hanging on without your help? It's now the big main thing and the Brotherhood is gone." Which is why New Vegas got *EXACTLY* the same flak. Just less vocally because the original games were cult classics and not actually popular.
@@grimjoker5572damn that's crazy to think about actually. i'm not a lore guy so i know very little abt the first 2 games. interested to see what they're like after i beat fallout nv and 3. i grew up w fallout 4 and am running back the old ones.
@@grimjoker5572the brotherhood barely have a presence in fallout 2, the NCR were already the largest faction in California at that point
The NCR is also mentioned in Shady Sands ending in the first game
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and yet they are still in Fallout 2, still being built up as one of the pillars of civilization returning only for New Vegas to tear them down. Even though they were getting along with the NCR.
I remember both Fallout 3 fans and fans of 1 and 2 being quite peeved about this.
Season 2 starts: Hank making his way toward Vegas when over the horizon a giant angry bug with brilliant orange wings emerges over a distant crag. Snap zoom to Hank's bewildered face as the sound of violence draws closer. Fade to black. Roll credits.
A cazador would be a fitting end for Hank or the writers of this show.
so basically to summarize this video, fallout the tv show is the exact product that bethesda has been pushing every time since fallout 4 and is the exact product that one should have expected from them
yeah and as someone who likes the show but only likes new vegas thats weirdly a good thing
The scene where wilzig escapes the gatlin gun, you can see bullets hitting the wall right behind him and the dog. Those bullets should've hit them. I guess plot armor is really strong
You know all they had to do was have House reject the proposal, or ask for a delay to think about it, and then when he leaves the others say that they can't count on him, and launch the nukes a week early which ties in to what House says in NV. That way at least they didn't damage him.
Tbf, House never mentions being on board with the nuking.
He just sits there quietly while all the other execs are chatting up the vault experiments.
@@ibrahimalee23 its still make him dumb, since house tell us he predicted the Nuke but never tell us about vault-tec intention about "the Profit"
@kadalsaurus6232 He probably just omitted that detail to feed into his own arrogance and present himself as intellgent and foresightful to the player.
His ego is a defining characteristic of his personality.
@@ibrahimalee23 House wouldn't omit that detail. If he was in the meeting for the nukes, he'd brag to the player about how dumb and wasteful Vault Tech were. He will freely go into details without regard for how they could make him look, he would not hide a detail that big.
We still don't know if Vault-Tec started the war. We just know they were willing to do so. The unfinished vaults in previous games and the Ghoul and his daughter not being in a vault on the day of the bombings would suggest it wasn't provoked by Vault-Tec.
Robert House, owner of Rob Co., proprietor of the Lucky 38 Casino and Hotel, determined that nuclear war between the United States and China was inevitable. He had installed anti-nuke defense systems across the continental US, which would go on to intercept all but twelve nuclear bombs launched by China.
House was profit-driven, yes, but he would never have agreed, even slightly, that nuking America would be in any way helpful to anyone.
New Vegas does not happen in this show. Todd Howard and Emil Pagliarulo are impotent manchildren who are upset that the Black Isle team made Fallout so beloved.
House never once 'agreed' with the plan to nuke the US. He keeps silent during most of the meeting when they start bringing up nuking the country for profit, nor does he ever agree with it.
Todd and Emil are a lot of things, but they aren't vindictive or petty. They don't do things to spite content made by people they dislike nor do they dislike what remains of the Black Isle Team or Obsidian.
@@ibrahimalee23even assuming he wasn't agreeing with anything, why isn't he arguing back? They are talking about genocide and he has no backbone to disagree? That ain't House.
@@ibrahimalee23 I am not going to assign motive to anyone, but New Vegas portrayed house as using various predictive models and calculations to determine that nuclear war between America and China was inevitable and when it would happen.
The show is either misdirecting us, or is showing us that House new about doomsday because Vault tec told him it would happen and had an inside scoop on when (presumably). Which means House was not able to save New Vegas due to his incredible intelligence but because Vault tec gave him inside information because they wanted his money.
Regardless of whether or not we can say "technically House never said he supports their choice" it still does at the least mean House has withheld information and in doing so paints himself in a better light than the retcon Canon does.
@@23RaindYour writing for the writer. Never do that.
@@ghoulsome9483 I mean, I guess it's possible that he doesn't want to reveal his intentions to the psychos he's sharing the room with. But then again, here I am writing for the writers.
“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.” -George Carlin
I think this is why so many new shows and movies are so well liked despite having objectively dumb characters, plots, and/or themes. It doesn’t matter how stupid something is, there will always be people who don’t, or can’t, see it that way.
I do love how this show pulled the whole “the red scare was real but it was good” shtick.
The mentality of, "It doesn't matter it's a fictional world of course we can change things on whim; why do you care so much about us rewriting and retconning already established history?; just turn your brain off and enjoy it."
If you tear apart the seams of the world you have already built to insert an inconsistent, poorly written "addition", you did not add anything, you just ruined the ardent fans joy, and cannibalized the world for casual, forgettable enjoyment.
You are the 1000th comment by the way
@@Dylanjrvs It's not hate, it's disappointment. Fallout 3 had decent writing, not without inconsistences, but I viewed it as Bethesda's Fallout. From then on what they said went, but it just kept getting more and more absurd with the stories and retcons. If people enjoy it, great, i am not saying to hate it. I am saying for me it sucks to see a world you enjoyed fall apart.
@@fireplacestorytime bethesda didnt invented fallout, the world youre talking bout already felt apart once before
@@Dylanjrvsthat is such a weird argument. Just because it isn't worse then the shit that happened to SWs (I however disagree, I think it is equally as bad) means people can't dislike it?
@@Dylanjrvsactively searching out criticism of the media slop you enjoy is infinitely sadder than mauler and co not falling for the nostalgia bait tv shows/movies.
Take your faux pozzed attitude and go buy some funko pops or something.
So let me get this straight. The show is pretty much saying The GECK isnt a thing? Since The GECK originally has a miniaturized version of a cold fusion device to power the machines that would terraform and scrub out the toxins from the air, soil, and water in a small city size area.
I don’t think that was the intention, I think they just wanted to force their “OC:do not steal” character, Moldaver, into the lore via the “I wanted to give people free energy but the capitalists stopped me” plot. They could just ignore the lore about G.E.C.K devices since it wouldn’t have to come up in the story. The G.E.C.K is ingrained in the story because Shady Sands was created using a….wait never mind, they teleported Shady Sands. This is all Toddslop, we can forget about the G.E.C.K’s after all.
Also, and correct me if i’m wrong, but aren’t Microfusion Cells and Fusion Cores supposed to be cold fusion? “Cold” fusion is a bit of a misnomer, it’s not exactly “cold,” it’s just not hot enough to immediately roast you if you’re anywhere near it, it’s only “cold” by the standards of nuclear fusion.
That is what I was saying too! Moldover didn't invent cold fusion, cold fusion already existed in the GECK
@@Slender_Man_186 Cold fusion is meant to be a step up from the cores currently in use at the time of the Resource War. The show messes up by telling us that Vault Tec wanted to hoard it for profit, while the old lore states that the United States government was seeking a solution to the energy crisis. They really wanted to get their “capitalism bad” message out there.
@@kenkaneki3873 Yep, they shoehorned Moldaver into it just like they had to tell us why the Vault Boy gives a thumbs up. This is the Han Solo last name origin scene, this is the revisions made to the lore of Doctor Who again, it’s people placing their monuments on other creators territory and proclaiming, “We bought the rights to say that this is the TRUE origin of x,y,z.” Putting their sticky little finger prints all over this stuff.
"Let's start the apocalypse for money !" "Yeah !" "But there will be no world where to spend our money after" "Who cares we'll still have the money !"
Whole internet: this is a great show
My poor ass: oh man, I need to find time to watch it, I guess...
Mauler: being Mauler
My poor ass: oh thank fuck
I am glad you watched this instead of the show because I regretted wasting my time watching that slop.
It set off my woke sensors so I avoided it like the plague.
One of the weirdest things about this show is how heavily it depends on ‘you just gotta know the games man’ while also needing ‘don’t worry about the lore it’s just funny satire’ as a defense. Like getting out of or even into vaults is weirdly easy in newer fallout games if you have a pipe boy or that for no apparent reason people actually are perfectly fine with living and working around corpses since that’s just a thing in fallout 4 with skeleton literally sitting in businesses the same as how they died hundreds of years ago. But then immediately defaults to everybody is an idiot don’t think about it with its issues.
This is why I say it's alot like Rings of Power; if you don't know the lore, you're confused (The Enclave? What's that?) but if you DO know the lore, you're annoyed. The fans are tourists; people who vaguely remember details from when they played the games when they were new, just enough to like the key jangling.
The lore changes every game, is the thing. They retcon ALL THE TIME. I'm accepted that, and just treat the Show as Fallout 5 with even more retcons. When I do that it's infinitely more enjoyable.
@@billjacobs521 I don’t think it’s even for the tourist. If it was it would be trying much harder to shoehorn in some message or be weirdly hostile to actual fans; instead it’s more like it’s for the fanboy fans that have legitimately played and enjoyed the series even know the lore by heart, but have such low standards that anything with fallout on it is good enough. Definitely not tourists kinds since these people could talk for like ten minutes about some random lore blurb related to a minor faction and then hand wave away some massive screw up story or lore wise in the newer stuff.
It’s just consumer bait
@@monkeyinapanzer Ah, so like the guy above you. A superfan, but Bethesda have buck-broken him so thoroughly he just shrugs and eats the steadily degrading slop with a desperate smile, like the child of a mother who learned culinary arts from watching septic tank explosion compilations on youtube.
@cortster12 no, that’s Bethesda Fallout. Fallout 1, 2, and New Vegas were all pretty consistent with each other, mainly because they were mostly made by a lot of the same people. And then you have Fallout 3, which comes in and plops the Brotherhood of Steel, a faction that was starting to die out last we saw them in Fallout 2, on the other ass end of the country with a giant death robot, which they somehow manage to find power for despite the fact that the pre-war government couldn’t. Then you have Fallout 4, it can’t decide wether Ghouls need food and water or don’t, it can’t decide wether X-01 power armor is or isn’t Enclave power armor, and the crazy thing is that both Fallout 3 and 4 were written by the same moron who seriously tried to compare Fallout 4 to The Great Gatsby.
Wtf was that? Man and dog "fast walk" by a turret chain gun and not get hit?
The turret could have the most advanced AI ever programmed to closely miss with every shot and it would still hit so many shots with that kind of gun. It would be impossible to not hit. To miss everything would have been out of place even in a satire, unless the characters talked afterwards about what kind of insanity just happened. So bad.
To be fair, the turret was just as inaccurate in the show as it is in the games so 🤷♀️
@@coleganter2021 Yeah, you literally can run past them in the games no problems.
these angry autists are hilarious
@@coleganter2021 That is simply not true. And even if it was, it would still be a problem. One just cannot fire that many bullets that come so close and not hit any of those. Borderline impossible.
@@tabull8180idk how they’re wrong my guy, every time my base gets attacked in FO4, my turrets can’t hit shit.
I love how in Fallout: New Vegas there is literally an easter egg where you can see a skeleton in a fridge with a fedora. Like…
Obsidian: “Haha… wow that part in Crystal Skull was so dumb, let’s put a detail in our game making fun of it.”
Bethesda & Show-Runners: “Wow that was such a good idea! Clearly Crystal Skull is the best one! Let’s revolve entire plot points around characters surviving nukes inside fridges.”
Obsidian: “Wait… no… it was just a joke… wait no-“
That about sums up how wide the gap in intelligence is between the two.
And then you know fallout 4 with a ghoul child that has lived within a fridge for 200+ years
With no food or water
There's another glaring example in the difference of writing between New Vegas and Fallout 4. In NV the Legion uses Latin because Caesar thinks it makes them look smart. In Fallout 4 the BOS suddenly have a Latin catchphrase because Bethesda thinks it makes the BOS look smart. Both groups wind up looking a bit pretentious, but it was deliberate in NV.
You know, NV at least had the decency to make Wild Wasteland a trait, unlike FO2, where it was just zany wacky pop culture references shoved into your face, which Bethesda that mistook as the core of the series and used zany wacky as the basis for all of their games going forward.
@@Mirthful_Midori No, see, the BoS use Latin because they were founded by former military. And the military uses Latin in some cases.
Therefore, the BoS must use Latin.
remember everyone.. it only gets worse.
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