A firearm in your hand is worth more than an entire police force on 911. And I’d rather be tried by 12 than to be carried by 6. Good job keeping yourself and your sister safe.👍
And your family and kids are left fatherless cuz daddy is in prison. I like this option bc bad guy lives and goes to prison and i go back home safely and free
Original comment: what if something happens like what happened to that kid who was shot just because he knocked on the wrong door? You’re right, but not everyone has good trigger discipline. Too many shoot first without looking at who they’re shooting at.
@@sonadorazul3074 it was a misunderstanding. His only mistake was going to the wrong street to pick up his siblings from babysitting. The shooter shot too quickly. Plus there was another recent incident where a lady shot her neighbor through the shooter’s front door. You should always be ready to react, but you shouldn’t pull the trigger without being sure of what you’re aiming at.
The point is to stop the attack, not to kill. You're no better than the criminal if you don't get that. People with your mentality are how we ended up with so many thugs with badges.
I can't afford the price tag on a Byrna. I bought a Umarex HDR50 instead. In most us jurisdictions they're not considered firearms, so they aren't subject to most gun-free zone regulations and can be legally carried in many places where firearms are prohibited.
I think the value of these comes from the element of surprise. A kinetic impact projectile to a sensitive body part will give someone a moment of pause to decide whether they really want to continue and risk being shot at closer range in the head, groin, etc. For some that's all it will take to change their mind. Combine that with a chemical round and it can be very effective.
Absolutely. Also these things are nice and loud, which should should disorient them more. Criminals wants easy marks, they don’t want to get pelted with projectiles and peppers balls. It’s surprising there isn’t a larger market for less lethal launchers in general.
I use my Glock 9mm as backup. But statistically most situations won’t need to elevate to that level of force. It’s legally-wise to use only the amount of force needed.
Thank you for this heads up. We need to share these.. how frightening for you all. Normal people don't expect this. Good for you! 💞🙏 Sorry you had to go through that, and so grateful for the outcome. All around. ❤️
absolutely amazing story.....i swear....my ears were on the edge of their seat......im watching this video because i wanted to by the Byrna HD SD or LE....wasnt sure if it woud be effective enough against possibly a drugged up attacker......but after watching a few videos and saw what damage these rounds can do....i was sold...but your story was great....1st off im happy all of you are ok...most important part......and listen....you did what you had to do......noone likes hurting another....but at the same time you have to protect you and yours.......thats a SO BE IT situation....because your sister/friend.....i cant remember lol.....should never have to live in fear....especially somewhere they have always been....30 years is a long time.....thank god you popped open the fire door just to be safe....i always go with my gut instinct......now i have no doubts....the fact that 1 kinetic round ripped the side of his face and immediately stopped a huge 6ft 2in guy is all the evidence i need......thank you for sharing your story with us
A shot to face with a less-than-lethal weapon is still deadly force so whats the point? Its a glorified paintball gun with 5 rounds that people are relying on to save their life. smh
@@davidgribble263 True, but this wasn't a criminal shooter situation. This was just an aggressor who physically wanted to hurt them. If you've ever been hit with this thing, my friend has,it'll take the fight out of you within seconds. Ya, for criminal shooters and actual firearm is the way to go. This isn't for ALL situations.
Unfortunately the problem with this product is it will not be enough of a force multiplier if the threat is just slightly more motivated than this paid commercial. I will not risk my life or a member of my family to a less effective device. Secondly if it is pulled first in a defensive scenario and a real gun comes out next from the perp…guess who wins? 😮
The biggest issue that could have been avoided is this women getting out of her car … in a. Parking. Garage. With a. Homeless who she assumes is dead on the ground. Bryna or not - teach this women common sense.
I'm glad for you but I will stick to my .45. If it comes to the point of me having to pull my hog leg they have made some really hostile decisions and I have no problem smoking their ass.
What strikes me is the bad guy screaming "I cant believe you shot me!" which tells me that these dirt bags will believe you actually are shooting them with a firearm instead of a less lethal weapon. Thats a real psychological advantage. I carry a Glock 9 mm but I might get one of these anyway.
Absolutely especially for like a road rage situation which happens very often because people are so triggered nowadays and selfish. Just empty the magazine with the burner five pepper balls into the cabin of their vehicle should adjust their attitude if that doesn't stop them well then you got to go to your plan B which is lethal Force.
@@Sandhill1988 That might not be a necessarily good idea, the best thing you can do in road rage incidents is simply gtfo, its never worth injury/life/or potentially getting in trouble with the law yourself(as much as Id prefer to do otherwise at times). Not to mention, if someone sees you pull out something that looks like a real firearm, they may pull out a real firearm themselves thinking that youre resorting to lethal force. Personally I wouldnt want to have to carry both, so id take carrying a sig p320/p365 over the less lethal option any day of the week should I ever be in a situation where its genuinely needed.
@@Sandhill1988 unless they’re running you off the road and trying to kill you, just fucking move on man. Be a man, and just fucking get over it, it’s just one of the many assholes of the world. It’s not worth risking your life over being tailgated
This is a classic carjacker's move, have one guy laying on the ground pretending to be dead, while someone else waits. You get out, check if the guy's OK, and next thing you know there's a gun in your face. If you ever see that, in a parking lot, alley, or anything, immediately get the hell out of there and call the police. Don't check the body. Don't stay parked while you call either, that makes you a sitting duck. Get out of there and call it in when you're out of the area. And if you see anyone running towards your car, do not slow down, do not swerve out of the way. They rely on people stopping to avoid hitting them.
And when it rly Is an innocent pedestrian running for help you're gonna run them over. I'd rather get robbed at that point. Compassion isn't for cowards or weaklings. Maybe the correct answer is to have a firearm in hand when they come running up. Up to you man.
Sadly, in Canada, you (likely) would have been charged for carry concealed weapon, assault, etc etc. The criminal would go to court, get a slap on the wrist, and be back on the streets in no time. You though, would be dealing with this nightmare scenario for years to come. Our PM has gone as far as to say Canadians have NO RIGHT to use firearms for self defence. And since this looks like one, they would call it that... despite it shooting under 500 fps. Criminals have more rights than citizens do in Canada... its truly pathetic.
Truly sad and scary and how do you re-elect someone who leaves citizenry so vulnerable? I am in NJ and we're not much better off though... so I get it.
@@eugenejoliva That is a good question - yet Trudope keeps getting re-elected. Its because (the majority of) people up here don't have a gun, never had one, don't understand them, and generally find them big. mean and scary. So they don't care if they are taken away. But eventually this guy WILL take away something that they DO care about... but until that time, they just don't follow the politics and just re-elect him. Very frustrating.
You need a new prime minister ..thats for sure. Though I'm sure Trudeau used as much fraud as Biden to get in to office. Canadians generally seem to hate him from what ive seen.
"Took 16 minutes for the cops to show up." Is the most important takeaway for me. People think they can call the cops and somehow they will just teleport to your front door. That's not reality. Your gonna be on your own for a bit, you better be prepared to fight for your life and you families as well. In 16 minutes you could be robbed, killed and the bad guy gone in the wind.
When I was 13 collecting golf balls. Two guys screamed at me for trespassing and came at me with their golf clubs. I fucking blocked his attack and smashed his skull in with nunchucks. I left but got caught later, once I told my stoy and it was verified, I was let go.
Also what I learned from the whole George Zimmerman thing is that you only dial 911 when the shootings done. Of you call dispatch and they tell you to put your gun away and hide and you end up having to shoot the guy they will try you for murder. Only call 911 when there us a body for them to drive off with.
How about stalling them long enough to get the family out of there? Much more likely to survive than trying to get into a standoff with an armed intruder.
Very good, I deliver for FedEx ground and I do the same thing and I also wear a concealed vest under my uniform from AR500. STAY SAFE OUT THERE MY FRIEND.
@@MikeMcclendon1377 thank you. For the most part I just left Amazon and got a new job, however when I’m on the train back and forth to work through Baltimore city. Uh 😒 yeah it’s not an option. I DEFINITELY NEED TO CARRY MINES to and from work because too many shady characters get on there and just my work 🥾 boots alone has caught some “unwanted attention”. This random guy made it as though he was complementing them BUT his mannerisms said different. But YOU TOO PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE BE SAFE OUT THERE. Us delivery drivers are always placed into challenging situations where most ppl WON’T go to do their job 👍
@@jeybyrdfoxtrot1007 oh yeah, definitely riding a train and definitely in Baltimore, please keep that on your hip. I live in atlanta, so I can kind of relate LOL. That's great that you are very observant and you see shady characters looking at you like that. Also, thank you for the great advice.
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as someone who got a felony 20 years ago when i was only 17. at 36 , not being able to defend myself with a gun, this is my next best choice. Definitely getting a Byrna to defend myself and loved ones.
Felon here, I own a paintball marker loaded with pepper balls, but in county jail, I saw a meth head get dropped with two rounds by a paintball marker with pepper balls. Definitely effective
I’m glad your safe . I had a situation where I rendered aid to a man who was being attacked. The assailant was trying to end his life . It was terrible and terrifying. Something no one should go through.
suppose it depends on their justification, but yea, seeing a man beaten within an inch of death is a sight to behold. We western world folks live pretty jaded and sheltered lives apart from the daily gore and violence that's routine for so many in less advanced, peaceful, and privileged countries.
Never, NEVER warn a person you are going to shoot. Draw, They will kill you if you delay, and you are already out of time. Get your best sight picture as you roll down your window, to avoid deafening yourself. PRESS-PRESS-PRESS. Drive away.
Never, say ,”never.” Each situation is different and is fluid. Give warning when feasible, but use good judgement. Good judgement comes from good training, good decision making, and being aware of the dynamics of each situation.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience with your Byrne .. I just recently bought the Byrne SD after doing a little bit of research.. I have often thought about buying a gun and actually took a pistol permit class a while back , but never did go through the process . When I saw the stories about the non lethal alternative I decided to purchase one and I’m so glad that I did ! I was amazed at how sturdy it was and how easy it was to hold and fire but also not TOO bulky even for a woman … I have a much better sense of security now. When my husband retires soon we will be doing lots of hikes and bike rides and exploring places. You just never know what you might run into out there so I feel SO much more prepared to protect us if tne need should arise .. GREAT PRODUCT !
@@headbanger5556 Less lethal give you the few seconds you need to get the hell away from the baddie, you’re not going to go head to head with someone with a lethal gun. Some of us have no interest in killing someone and winding up in prison due to some obscure law somewhere, we just want a stunned or peppered jerk out of our face so we can get to safety.
@@KHGrinderboy im sorry man im over in America complaining about losing 60 round magazines and you can even get a pepper ball gun who would use this as an assault tool? Or can conceal it
Glad you and your family are safe. When someone has been beat down and have nothing to lose, they get to a point where they absolutely don't care about you or anyone else including themselves.
I feel for you, I too was attacked, I wish I had a Bryrna at that time. I was in my bed when I was attacked by an intruder that event still haunts me to this day, 40 yr later. Glad you are safe. We are an example of why people should have this option. Thank you for sharing your testimony.
I understand why some people would choose this. I respect your decision to want to carry this weapon. Everyone should have the ability to defend themselves. I've just heard too many horror stories of tasers and stun guns pepper spray not having any effect. I'll carry my 9 mm.
Glad all ended well but had the bad guy had a real gun it could have ended entirely different . I'm sure the Kinetic has its uses but I still like to tip my odds in my favor whenever possible with something with a bit more kinetic energy.
If he had a gun, he already would have used it instead of pushing on the door. I get it...but some folks just don't want to deal with the legal aftermath of killing someone.
I understand and I would feel the same way if I could legally carry.The byrna is too expensive but I do carry a similar weapon.Something is better than nothing.
I've seen people take five pepper Balls to the chest and it didn't even make their eyes water. If you got someone that's really pissed off I think the adrenal will let them overcome this. I like the old 12 gauge bean bag guns.
@Wil Font So convicted felons can carry these? I don't have any gun charges but 10 years ago I got into some trouble. I changed my life around and I would like to have some kind of protection.
@@beezytalkingshit9319 Im a felon also. Yes we can own these and are really one of the best defenses we have. I recommend the getting the rounds with both of the sprays in them. If the shot doesnt drop them, not being able to breathe effectivley will
You honestly think that story is believable? Maybe some believe it. I don't. Look I'm not judging you.. it's always a good idea to be able to protect yourself and whom ever else needs protection. How you choose to protect yourself is also a personal choice. Size means nothing and that type protection might be fine if your attacker isn't armed. Best advise I can give...stay away from areas like that ..even if you have a real gun.. But if you must ..use your brain... That story had a ton of very bad choices .. first off...your sister ....if the story were true .. Should never have parked and gotten out of her car...much less been that close to strangers at night in such as place.... Use your brains don't ever try to be the tough guy..or gal.
I saw your ad on YT and got curious with this non lethal weapon then I watched this video of the guy describing himself actually using it. I was impressed. I live in Indiana and my family has a lot of the real ones. But I’m a woman and this Byrna appeals to me more because the person can actually live to tell about his unfortunate face to face confrontation with the Byrna. I asked my millennial son what he thought of it he said it’s very impressive. I still want to see more videos of it being used before deciding to own one.
Just get one! I carry mine everywhere. I mix kinetic balls with pepper balls. You can carry it anywhere because it is not federally regulated firearm. In California I had to take the burn a security guard class to be able to buy the pepper balls
@@bullychug9883 wow! Impressive. Can this be used then in my former city of Chicago where gun laws are so strict? My son lives there before that we live in NW Indiana when they were growing up. He’s now a resident of Chicago being a city employee. But he had to leave all his guns back in Indiana. What’s the use of them then, I asked him.
I appreciated you sharing a dangerous life situation that you managed with one single shot from a Less than Lethal Paintball Marker. The facial impact was the best area to compromise. This was a Dilettante Presumption Theorem: All statements of fact, opinion, or analysis expressed do not necessarily reflect official positions or views or any other entity, past or present. Nothing in the contents should be construed as asserting or implying endorsement of interpretations and factual statements.
Do I not understand or did the dr send a nurse to cut the bolt plus after she was attached before at the same place . I call bull or am I misunderstanding
Even real bullets don’t stop alot of people. How is some pepper paint balls going to work? I’m sure there are some people that it will stop but not many. Why would you take that chance?
@Black Sheep. It's better than nothing. Some people like ex-cons can't own guns. Also, some idiot areas of the country have overly restrictive gun laws.
@@mitchmiller2382 yes I agree it’s better than nothing but don’t expect it to stop someone like a gun would especially since it’s useless in an actual firearm scenario.
The issue I have with all of this tests are people being shot are shirtless or are just wearing a regular t-shirts. I'm curious if this will have the same impact on someone wearing a thick jacket or coat. Love to see the results on that test. But, regardless Bryna tear gas and pepper combination looks like the real deal. PAIN! 💯💯👍👍😁😁
@@TexasScratchMan Easier said than done. Have you any gun range training? Sounds like you don't. What they teach, and this is true with law enforcement and military, is to Aim at Center Mass. Civilians are also taught the same. Why? It's freaking a bigger target. So, unless you're an expert shooter and can hit a moving target in the head then kudos to you! But, how many people is capable of doing that? Do tell. Lesson 101 TSM CRYPTO. 💯💯💯
@@alpha2957 did you even read the comment i replied to? if they are wearing a thick jacket or coat or armor, a kinetic round will not do enough damage to stop someone, especially if they are charging at you full speed in rage mode. Obviously if your far away from them aiming for the head is a dumb choice but if they are coming close, aim for the neck and head. landing one is all it would take
These won’t stop a lot of people, if it’s home protection get a real gun, if it’s your small daughter get one of these until she is capable of getting a real gun
This could have been avoided if your werent trying to be a hero. YOu shot a guy who was minding his own business, yes doing drugs and tresspassing, however, the police could have been called instead. Vigilante justice against the less fortunate is not ok imo. If this guy started it, or came into your home, then sure, but this was a parking lot, on private property, and your a general contractor, just there to make sure nothing happens to your wife. Nothing did. She was gone. I feel like you wanted to shoot this guy cuz hes homeless and an addict. I dont have all the information admittedly, but based on this video, it seems like you were looking for trouble. You even brough a big Somoan for back up, like you said.
Other than for someone whose background won't pass the standard background test, who in their right mind would use one of these as opposed to a real firearm (or pepper spray for non-lethal encounters)?
If it stops the attack *and* keeps you from going to prison for an illegal gun, it's a win-win. Also the SD is about half the price of a real firearm, and you can legally practice with it in your own home without going to prison for illegal discharge of a firearm within city limits and without paying hundreds of dollars a month to shoot at a private range. It's no good owning a firearm if you never practice using it. It's also great for people who don't live in "castle doctrine" states or have physical disabilities that prevent them from racking the action on an automatic pistol. It's also permissible to carry in a vehicle and on premises that ban firearms and in tons and tons of other situations where ending another person's life isn't the best answer. I'm a military firearms instructor and I own plenty of guns and I'm thinking about getting one of these myself.
those pepper rounds or even worse oc cs rounds hurt like hell getting hit at close range and takes the fight right out of someone when they can't breathe without choking, coughing, gagging, and puking...and your eyeballs feel like they are on fire
@@davidgribble263 One has legal ramifications when pulling the trigger (THAT is a reality even in my 2A state of Texas. ) The other less lethal method allowed him to keep his family safe without legal rammifications. Its really your choice. I'm for both.
Amazing story. My husband just ordered one for me. We live in Downtown Los Angeles. I'm an ER Doctor and work the night shift in an unrepresented part of town (by choice). As dedicated as I am to serve, it has its risks. My hospital's staff parking is two and half blocks from the rear entrance. The first 50 yards of which, are down a dark alley. If a security guard is available, he'll walk us to the corner. I can't carry a fire arm into the hospital, but having this will let my husband sleep again at night.
@@BillyBob-op6lg I know myself. I can't take a life. Any perp would take my gun from me. I'm honestly safer without one. I have no issue at all with deploying a taser or lighting an attacker up with Byrna pepper balls.
I just bought an S&W micro compact 9mm pistol for less than the price of the Byrna Kinetic. The Byrna would be less lethal. appears to not be classified as a firearm (yet) and likely would present fewer legal problems is used, but I can’t justify the cost.
funny you complain about the cost of a couple hundred bucks. Try paying the cost of attorney fees, time consuming court appearances, and a lengthy prison sentence lol. But oh yeah, you wanted to save a couple hundred bucks lol.
I know, a guy that has this!!...He, was robbed once and had his Car almost taken at traffic light!!...Well ,now the guy owns 2 illegal Firearms with Rounds!...😃🤣😅 He, Laughs about it alot..
I have the SD and the LE. Always have one in the car or in a sling bag when I ride my bike. I do wish there were more holster options for the LE though. I also like it because a lawyer isn't necessarily sold separately.
higher fps=more velocity. how bout the larger co2, is that only for more shots or does it also add more "thrust" or "burst"? i like the way the SD looks, but if the LE is substantially more effective then ill gladly sacrifice my vanity lol.
The LE is essentially like an SD with the extender for the 12 gram CO2. But, the LE is redesigned to give the longer range. You'll get up to 25 - 30 shots on a 12 gram in an LE if you're practicing.
I am so glad you and your family are safe. So glad your sister is safe!!! Thank you for sharing this story. I am trying to finish a planning class, and had not thought in terms of an industrial or urban defensive zone, like they urge for people in woodland interface areas. This guy couldn't have been homeless or 'just drugged out'- stalking like that takes planning and more than one person. One of the commenters said You Are the First Responder. Well, I have to change some ways and more lighting doesn't hurt either. Thank you for posting and sharing this. Stay safe and well you and yours.
This simply a choice, depending on the scenario. Because EVEN in my state of Texas... the end result scenario doesn't always come in our (2A supporters) favor.
The biggest issue when stopped is YOUR ASSIGNED STEREO TYPE. There is no such thing as "equal treatment" in the court's. The fact that a lawyer is needed in a courts tells me that the truth and righteousness have no priority with the people in those courts. "NULLIFICATION" , and the nullification of the constitution ( ignorance becomes a reason to excuse) ,ID laws are lawless laws, "life, liberty," is a reference to "LIFE" that is referenced in the constitution. Basically a Declaration of independence, thank you very much.
Question: So, are you having to puncture the co2 cartridge at the start of every day? Doesnt the co2 leak out over 24 hours? I am considering purchasing a BYRNA but it occured to me, having to turn the key to puncture the co2 during something dangerous might be extremely inconvenient. I know that some co2 guns puncture after the first shot, but from what I have researched online it doesn’t seem like the byrna can do this.
Something I cant wrap my head around is most people's disassociation from human life in typical gun cluture. Idk if its covid, or pilitics, or what. I turned to Byrna because we have a firearm in our safe, but the idea of taking life is as serious as crating one to us. Every man is a son, every woman a daughter, and just as likely a mother or father. (Or atleast they would be if their life were on track). I am not a Christian or a religious person, but everyone is important. Thats wny my Byrna LE will be my daily carry out of the house, and my first line within. I'd much rather my family have their leader than be in jail cause my state sucks.
I believe there is a time and a place for an actual weapon and a time and place for less lethal such as Byrna. This story is a good example. You may never know what that other person is packing. You never know that with your concealed carrying either. They key point to this is just like with any weapon. RESPONSIBILITY and TRAINING. Knowing how to properly use the launcher and when to use it.
Handheld pepper aerosol/fogger can would have worked in this instance, at about $20 per can. Im just sayin', in case you cant afford a pepperball gun. Just be sure you get the fogger type to spray a vapor so the bad guy inhales the mist as this will drop him immediately with coughing fits. The stream spray version is useless for instant stop because it's not inhaled so much as with the fogger type. I've tested both on myself, and only the fogger type has instant knockdown. I do like the pepperball gun because you can use it at a greater distance, and you have visual deterence since it looks like a real gun, though i dont own one. Maybe someday.
Don't know where this took place. But you're lucky. That you were not charged with any crime. Your version has some real red flags in it. Like you've been in a lot of fights in your life. Why? And why did you go into the dark place, a locked door, in the first place? You could have called police. It sounds like you were opening yourself up to a problem instead of trying to avoid one. I am a CWW holder. And I understand what you did. But, it does go against my own training. And at least in California, some lawyer could see things differently if the 'homeless' guy sued you for using excessive force and maiming him for life. If it were me, which I understand it isn't, I'd consider this video being removed. Albeit I gather it works for you as a marketing tool. There are things in it that could get twisted to make it sound like you might have been a co-aggressor. Godspeed!
A firearm in your hand is worth more than an entire police force on 911. And I’d rather be tried by 12 than to be carried by 6. Good job keeping yourself and your sister safe.👍
And your family and kids are left fatherless cuz daddy is in prison. I like this option bc bad guy lives and goes to prison and i go back home safely and free
Original comment: what if something happens like what happened to that kid who was shot just because he knocked on the wrong door?
You’re right, but not everyone has good trigger discipline. Too many shoot first without looking at who they’re shooting at.
That kid was trying to open the door
@@sonadorazul3074 it was a misunderstanding. His only mistake was going to the wrong street to pick up his siblings from babysitting. The shooter shot too quickly.
Plus there was another recent incident where a lady shot her neighbor through the shooter’s front door.
You should always be ready to react, but you shouldn’t pull the trigger without being sure of what you’re aiming at.
@jayyfazzo who quoted that?
Awesome! Another win for the good guys!🙏🇺🇲🙏🇺🇲🙏🇺🇲
I carry the 45Acp version. Very effective.
Personally I carry the .40S&W version my self
Same Here, the 1911 was made out of the spear of destiny and an ex-wife, that's why it kills your body and soul.
I like the 10mm
I'm a 2A guy, but I think you missed the point. He took care of this situation with the Byrna. Its a personal choice.
The point is to stop the attack, not to kill. You're no better than the criminal if you don't get that. People with your mentality are how we ended up with so many thugs with badges.
“YOU ARE YOUR OWN FIRST RESPONDER” AMEN.
Amen
I wish more people had this attitude. Thank you too!
The problem is that most people don’t understand that
I can't afford the price tag on a Byrna. I bought a Umarex HDR50 instead. In most us jurisdictions they're not considered firearms, so they aren't subject to most gun-free zone regulations and can be legally carried in many places where firearms are prohibited.
umarex hdp 50 kit 10 pepper rounds, 10 training rounds, under 90.00, has a slightly higher velocity fps than byrna, holds 6 shots
I bought the tr 50. Love it.
I think the value of these comes from the element of surprise. A kinetic impact projectile to a sensitive body part will give someone a moment of pause to decide whether they really want to continue and risk being shot at closer range in the head, groin, etc. For some that's all it will take to change their mind. Combine that with a chemical round and it can be very effective.
Absolutely. Also these things are nice and loud, which should should disorient them more. Criminals wants easy marks, they don’t want to get pelted with projectiles and peppers balls.
It’s surprising there isn’t a larger market for less lethal launchers in general.
Pain compliance is optional.
Destruction of tissue is non-optional.
The propper application of kinetic defense is 115gr or more, above 900 fps.
I use my Glock 9mm as backup. But statistically most situations won’t need to elevate to that level of force. It’s legally-wise to use only the amount of force needed.
Didn’t he say it peeled his cheek back. 😢
@@stick9758 but didn't blow his head off.
Geez darlin… I reckon you handled that better than most. Good job. I’m buying a Byrna.
I'm glad you're safe.
Got one and everyone should get one !!
Thank you for this heads up. We need to share these.. how frightening for you all. Normal people don't expect this.
Good for you! 💞🙏
Sorry you had to go through that, and so grateful for the outcome. All around. ❤️
absolutely amazing story.....i swear....my ears were on the edge of their seat......im watching this video because i wanted to by the Byrna HD SD or LE....wasnt sure if it woud be effective enough against possibly a drugged up attacker......but after watching a few videos and saw what damage these rounds can do....i was sold...but your story was great....1st off im happy all of you are ok...most important part......and listen....you did what you had to do......noone likes hurting another....but at the same time you have to protect you and yours.......thats a SO BE IT situation....because your sister/friend.....i cant remember lol.....should never have to live in fear....especially somewhere they have always been....30 years is a long time.....thank god you popped open the fire door just to be safe....i always go with my gut instinct......now i have no doubts....the fact that 1 kinetic round ripped the side of his face and immediately stopped a huge 6ft 2in guy is all the evidence i need......thank you for sharing your story with us
A shot to face with a less-than-lethal weapon is still deadly force so whats the point? Its a glorified paintball gun with 5 rounds that people are relying on to save their life. smh
Sweet launcher! Just got one...I don't want to be a victim twice...second one being on trial 😆
GOOD FOR YOU. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE NO CHOICE.
I'll buy and carry this toy when the bad guys ALL switch to BB guns
Very well said. This is not going to save anyone from a criminal shooter !!!!!!!
@@davidgribble263 True, but this wasn't a criminal shooter situation. This was just an aggressor who physically wanted to hurt them. If you've ever been hit with this thing, my friend has,it'll take the fight out of you within seconds. Ya, for criminal shooters and actual firearm is the way to go. This isn't for ALL situations.
Unfortunately the problem with this product is it will not be enough of a force multiplier if the threat is just slightly more motivated than this paid commercial. I will not risk my life or a member of my family to a less effective device. Secondly if it is pulled first in a defensive scenario and a real gun comes out next from the perp…guess who wins? 😮
I've seen videos where law enforcement carry both and choose depending on the situation. I would carry both, in case it escalates.
if you are quick and put 5 pepper balls in their neck and face how will the attacker see you to shoot back
Good man!
Using less lethal force to respond to deadly force threat.
Not smart.
Absolutely ridiculous.......good luck when the bad guy has real bullets
Good thing it actually had an effect on the guy.
What is a byrna kinetic? Never heard of it. Must be why I carry a ,357 magnum.
peeled his cheek back.
The biggest issue that could have been avoided is this women getting out of her car … in a. Parking. Garage. With a. Homeless who she assumes is dead on the ground. Bryna or not - teach this women common sense.
It was dark, but you saw the man was 6’2”, 285 lbs.? Correct
Long story longer but cool story bro
"And i started blastin"
Do you need a concealed carry?
This thing is good for unarmed ppl. Maybe. I wouldn't trust it though based on what I seen
Cool. I chose Glock and S&W.
I'm glad for you but I will stick to my .45. If it comes to the point of me having to pull my hog leg they have made some really hostile decisions and I have no problem smoking their ass.
Whatch the law suit come .
Good job, but I use lethal.
Shot him in the face?? Take this video down this instant! You are crazy to say that on video! 😂
Nice commercial
What strikes me is the bad guy screaming "I cant believe you shot me!" which tells me that these dirt bags will believe you actually are shooting them with a firearm instead of a less lethal weapon. Thats a real psychological advantage. I carry a Glock 9 mm but I might get one of these anyway.
Absolutely especially for like a road rage situation which happens very often because people are so triggered nowadays and selfish. Just empty the magazine with the burner five pepper balls into the cabin of their vehicle should adjust their attitude if that doesn't stop them well then you got to go to your plan B which is lethal Force.
@@Sandhill1988 That might not be a necessarily good idea, the best thing you can do in road rage incidents is simply gtfo, its never worth injury/life/or potentially getting in trouble with the law yourself(as much as Id prefer to do otherwise at times). Not to mention, if someone sees you pull out something that looks like a real firearm, they may pull out a real firearm themselves thinking that youre resorting to lethal force. Personally I wouldnt want to have to carry both, so id take carrying a sig p320/p365 over the less lethal option any day of the week should I ever be in a situation where its genuinely needed.
@@Handcannon77 Exactly. If i must shoot some, one I want it to be with the real thing.
@@Sandhill1988 unless they’re running you off the road and trying to kill you, just fucking move on man. Be a man, and just fucking get over it, it’s just one of the many assholes of the world. It’s not worth risking your life over being tailgated
Good thinking
This is a classic carjacker's move, have one guy laying on the ground pretending to be dead, while someone else waits. You get out, check if the guy's OK, and next thing you know there's a gun in your face. If you ever see that, in a parking lot, alley, or anything, immediately get the hell out of there and call the police. Don't check the body. Don't stay parked while you call either, that makes you a sitting duck. Get out of there and call it in when you're out of the area. And if you see anyone running towards your car, do not slow down, do not swerve out of the way. They rely on people stopping to avoid hitting them.
And when it rly Is an innocent pedestrian running for help you're gonna run them over. I'd rather get robbed at that point. Compassion isn't for cowards or weaklings. Maybe the correct answer is to have a firearm in hand when they come running up. Up to you man.
Excellent tip. Thanks!
Great advice!!
Sadly, in Canada, you (likely) would have been charged for carry concealed weapon, assault, etc etc. The criminal would go to court, get a slap on the wrist, and be back on the streets in no time. You though, would be dealing with this nightmare scenario for years to come. Our PM has gone as far as to say Canadians have NO RIGHT to use firearms for self defence. And since this looks like one, they would call it that... despite it shooting under 500 fps. Criminals have more rights than citizens do in Canada... its truly pathetic.
Truly sad and scary and how do you re-elect someone who leaves citizenry so vulnerable? I am in NJ and we're not much better off though... so I get it.
@@eugenejoliva That is a good question - yet Trudope keeps getting re-elected. Its because (the majority of) people up here don't have a gun, never had one, don't understand them, and generally find them big. mean and scary. So they don't care if they are taken away. But eventually this guy WILL take away something that they DO care about... but until that time, they just don't follow the politics and just re-elect him. Very frustrating.
You will be alive !!!!! You Canadians gave your rights up and now you are paying the price !!!!!
What truly blows my mind is you can't even carry pepper spray in canada. That's freaking mental that you can't carry non-lethal defense items.
You need a new prime minister ..thats for sure. Though I'm sure Trudeau used as much fraud as Biden to get in to office. Canadians generally seem to hate him from what ive seen.
"Took 16 minutes for the cops to show up." Is the most important takeaway for me. People think they can call the cops and somehow they will just teleport to your front door. That's not reality. Your gonna be on your own for a bit, you better be prepared to fight for your life and you families as well. In 16 minutes you could be robbed, killed and the bad guy gone in the wind.
When I was 13 collecting golf balls. Two guys screamed at me for trespassing and came at me with their golf clubs. I fucking blocked his attack and smashed his skull in with nunchucks. I left but got caught later, once I told my stoy and it was verified, I was let go.
The cops are always on time....on time to draw a chalk line around your body!
Carry...
Also what I learned from the whole George Zimmerman thing is that you only dial 911 when the shootings done. Of you call dispatch and they tell you to put your gun away and hide and you end up having to shoot the guy they will try you for murder. Only call 911 when there us a body for them to drive off with.
How about stalling them long enough to get the family out of there? Much more likely to survive than trying to get into a standoff with an armed intruder.
Cool story! Maybe next time don't collect balls that they're still playing with.😘@@consortthantos3402
As a Amazon delivery driver I carry mines DAILY for these types of scenarios.
Very good, I deliver for FedEx ground and I do the same thing and I also wear a concealed vest under my uniform from AR500. STAY SAFE OUT THERE MY FRIEND.
@@MikeMcclendon1377 thank you. For the most part I just left Amazon and got a new job, however when I’m on the train back and forth to work through Baltimore city. Uh 😒 yeah it’s not an option. I DEFINITELY NEED TO CARRY MINES to and from work because too many shady characters get on there and just my work 🥾 boots alone has caught some “unwanted attention”. This random guy made it as though he was complementing them BUT his mannerisms said different. But YOU TOO PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE BE SAFE OUT THERE. Us delivery drivers are always placed into challenging situations where most ppl WON’T go to do their job 👍
@@jeybyrdfoxtrot1007 oh yeah, definitely riding a train and definitely in Baltimore, please keep that on your hip. I live in atlanta, so I can kind of relate LOL. That's great that you are very observant and you see shady characters looking at you like that. Also, thank you for the great advice.
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Very smart man. Better to have it on you
as someone who got a felony 20 years ago when i was only 17. at 36 , not being able to defend myself with a gun, this is my next best choice. Definitely getting a Byrna to defend myself and loved ones.
a taser is also a good choice Iam getting both
Felon here, I own a paintball marker loaded with pepper balls, but in county jail, I saw a meth head get dropped with two rounds by a paintball marker with pepper balls. Definitely effective
Great call, ur doing what you gotta do
@@bubba2for2 If your really 31 you sure act like a child. Thats actually sad.
I have pcp air rifles. Look into them. But I did Just pay $5500 to have my record expunged. Ain’t cheap… but hard to put a price on your gun rights!
I’m glad your safe . I had a situation where I rendered aid to a man who was being attacked. The assailant was trying to end his life . It was terrible and terrifying. Something no one should go through.
suppose it depends on their justification, but yea, seeing a man beaten within an inch of death is a sight to behold. We western world folks live pretty jaded and sheltered lives apart from the daily gore and violence that's routine for so many in less advanced, peaceful, and privileged countries.
Thanks for sharing, Your story convinced me to quit stalling and buy a Byrna gun. Glad you were ok.
Great job, always be aware, it`s only going to get worse. Constitutional carry should be every where.
Never, NEVER warn a person you are going to shoot. Draw, They will kill you if you delay, and you are already out of time. Get your best sight picture as you roll down your window, to avoid deafening yourself. PRESS-PRESS-PRESS. Drive away.
What???
The warning is having the barrel in their direction ready to go.
Never, say ,”never.” Each situation is different and is fluid. Give warning when feasible, but use good judgement. Good judgement comes from good training, good decision making, and being aware of the dynamics of each situation.
the byrna is no joke thank god to the byrna thats what he gets he should be talking to u like that great job man
the grimberg gavle is more powerful than the byrna and its for around the same price.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience with your Byrne ..
I just recently bought the Byrne SD after doing a little bit of research.. I have often thought about buying a gun and actually took a pistol permit class a while back , but never did go through the process .
When I saw the stories about the non lethal alternative I decided to purchase one and I’m so glad that I did !
I was amazed at how sturdy it was and how easy it was to hold and fire but also not TOO bulky even for a woman …
I have a much better sense of security now.
When my husband retires soon we will be doing lots of hikes and bike rides and exploring places.
You just never know what you might run into out there so I feel SO much more prepared to protect us if tne need should arise ..
GREAT PRODUCT !
Byrna please make an extended magazine
Mercy less lethal makes them
They have a 7 round clip
Glad you guys are ok. Thank the Lord you had a Byrna!!
I use 10mm 165gr Underwood loaded Gold Dots. They work better
They DO work better, but it just depends on the situation.
Good job dude.. Less lethal is the way forward 110%
Yea, um, No.
@@headbanger5556 Less lethal give you the few seconds you need to get the hell away from the baddie, you’re not going to go head to head with someone with a lethal gun. Some of us have no interest in killing someone and winding up in prison due to some obscure law somewhere, we just want a stunned or peppered jerk out of our face so we can get to safety.
REspect. Bravery in the face of adversity. If only we had the same support from the Government and Police in the UK. I salute you.
You can’t have one?
@@Dontunderstandpleasesayagian Not in the United Kingdom, such a device is illegal sadly.
@@KHGrinderboy im sorry man im over in America complaining about losing 60 round magazines and you can even get a pepper ball gun who would use this as an assault tool? Or can conceal it
Glad you and your family are safe. When someone has been beat down and have nothing to lose, they get to a point where they absolutely don't care about you or anyone else including themselves.
I feel for you, I too was attacked, I wish I had a Bryrna at that time. I was in my bed when I was attacked by an intruder that event still haunts me to this day, 40 yr later. Glad you are safe. We are an example of why people should have this option. Thank you for sharing your testimony.
No you weren’t
@@markhansen8039 Honest, I was.
I understand why some people would choose this. I respect your decision to want to carry this weapon. Everyone should have the ability to defend themselves. I've just heard too many horror stories of tasers and stun guns pepper spray not having any effect. I'll carry my 9 mm.
I think a lot of people are afraid of aggressive DA's like in the McCloskey case.
@@estrellasoftwaresoftware5924 in this day criminals are the victims and the victims are criminals
I carry a .45 not a toy .
I'm white in a state run by democrats, I would never get a fair shake in court.
Love the way you tell the story. Single female live only and and watched several videos BuT you inspire me to order this today. Best testimony ever 🙂
You gotta look after yourself. Nobody else will. Don’t be a target, don’t be a victim. Make em sorry they chose you.
Maybe after you get comfortable with it, you can look in to lethal protection.
Glad all ended well but had the bad guy had a real gun it could have ended entirely different . I'm sure the Kinetic has its uses but I still like to tip my odds in my favor whenever possible with something with a bit more kinetic energy.
If he had a gun, he already would have used it instead of pushing on the door. I get it...but some folks just don't want to deal with the legal aftermath of killing someone.
I understand and I would feel the same way if I could legally carry.The byrna is too expensive but I do carry a similar weapon.Something is better than nothing.
please make an edc compact 20j+ version. i bought three of these to stash around my house for special encounters but it would be nice to carry one.
Short story looong.
I've seen people take five pepper Balls to the chest and it didn't even make their eyes water. If you got someone that's really pissed off I think the adrenal will let them overcome this. I like the old 12 gauge bean bag guns.
what about the oc / cs combo balls
Glad to hear the kinetic works. I was wondering if only the pepper spray ones are good enough
I use lead
I can't get a gun because I was dum as a kid for breaking the law but can I get one of these to protect my family?
Build a polymer 80?? I had one but lost it in a boating accident
@Wil Font So convicted felons can carry these? I don't have any gun charges but 10 years ago I got into some trouble. I changed my life around and I would like to have some kind of protection.
Im a felon. This type on non lethal is legal in all states for everyone 18 and older
@@beezytalkingshit9319 Im a felon also. Yes we can own these and are really one of the best defenses we have. I recommend the getting the rounds with both of the sprays in them. If the shot doesnt drop them, not being able to breathe effectivley will
This must be a California thing?
You honestly think that story is believable? Maybe some believe it. I don't. Look I'm not judging you.. it's always a good idea to be able to protect yourself and whom ever else needs protection. How you choose to protect yourself is also a personal choice. Size means nothing and that type protection might be fine if your attacker isn't armed. Best advise I can give...stay away from areas like that ..even if you have a real gun.. But if you must ..use your brain... That story had a ton of very bad choices .. first off...your sister ....if the story were true .. Should never have parked and gotten out of her car...much less been that close to strangers at night in such as place.... Use your brains don't ever try to be the tough guy..or gal.
I saw your ad on YT and got curious with this non lethal weapon then I watched this video of the guy describing himself actually using it. I was impressed. I live in Indiana and my family has a lot of the real ones. But I’m a woman and this Byrna appeals to me more because the person can actually live to tell about his unfortunate face to face confrontation with the Byrna. I asked my millennial son what he thought of it he said it’s very impressive. I still want to see more videos of it being used before deciding to own one.
And I love the name. Who came up with Byrna is a genius. It sounds intimidating yet confidently disciplined.
My city just recently actually approved 200 of these to be placed in the hands of all the law enforcement it must fuck ppl up if they using it lol
Just get one! I carry mine everywhere. I mix kinetic balls with pepper balls. You can carry it anywhere because it is not federally regulated firearm. In California I had to take the burn a security guard class to be able to buy the pepper balls
I agree. When I get mine I’ll call it my Aunt Byrna.
@@bullychug9883 wow! Impressive. Can this be used then in my former city of Chicago where gun laws are so strict? My son lives there before that we live in NW Indiana when they were growing up. He’s now a resident of Chicago being a city employee. But he had to leave all his guns back in Indiana. What’s the use of them then, I asked him.
I appreciated you sharing a dangerous life situation that you managed with one single shot from a Less than Lethal Paintball Marker. The facial impact was the best area to compromise.
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"...peeled his cheek back..." HERE! TAKE MY MONEY!!
i like it, do they make .68 cal solid aluminum or steel rounds for this
I know right!! haha
Do I not understand or did the dr send a nurse to cut the bolt plus after she was attached before at the same place . I call bull or am I misunderstanding
Even real bullets don’t stop alot of people. How is some pepper paint balls going to work? I’m sure there are some people that it will stop but not many. Why would you take that chance?
@Black Sheep. It's better than nothing. Some people like ex-cons can't own guns. Also, some idiot areas of the country have overly restrictive gun laws.
@@mitchmiller2382 yes I agree it’s better than nothing but don’t expect it to stop someone like a gun would especially since it’s useless in an actual firearm scenario.
A bullet in the lung almost always kills.....
The issue I have with all of this tests are people being shot are shirtless or are just wearing a regular t-shirts. I'm curious if this will have the same impact on someone wearing a thick jacket or coat. Love to see the results on that test. But, regardless Bryna tear gas and pepper combination looks like the real deal. PAIN! 💯💯👍👍😁😁
Aim for the head
@@TexasScratchMan Easier said than done. Have you any gun range training? Sounds like you don't. What they teach, and this is true with law enforcement and military, is to Aim at Center Mass. Civilians are also taught the same. Why? It's freaking a bigger target. So, unless you're an expert shooter and can hit a moving target in the head then kudos to you! But, how many people is capable of doing that? Do tell. Lesson 101 TSM CRYPTO. 💯💯💯
@@alpha2957 did you even read the comment i replied to? if they are wearing a thick jacket or coat or armor, a kinetic round will not do enough damage to stop someone, especially if they are charging at you full speed in rage mode. Obviously if your far away from them aiming for the head is a dumb choice but if they are coming close, aim for the neck and head. landing one is all it would take
These won’t stop a lot of people, if it’s home protection get a real gun, if it’s your small daughter get one of these until she is capable of getting a real gun
@@TexasScratchMan aim for the trachea
So you could of let a junkie walk away. But as a , we'll, just had to shoot someone.
The drugs make them incredibly strong. That's why it takes several cops to wrestle them.
This is berna advertising for their own flipping products
This could have been avoided if your werent trying to be a hero. YOu shot a guy who was minding his own business, yes doing drugs and tresspassing, however, the police could have been called instead. Vigilante justice against the less fortunate is not ok imo. If this guy started it, or came into your home, then sure, but this was a parking lot, on private property, and your a general contractor, just there to make sure nothing happens to your wife. Nothing did. She was gone. I feel like you wanted to shoot this guy cuz hes homeless and an addict. I dont have all the information admittedly, but based on this video, it seems like you were looking for trouble. You even brough a big Somoan for back up, like you said.
That guy got everything he deserved !!!! Good thing it was not my wife or me !!!!!!
Thank you for sharing this. I am considering getting one and wondered if it would really stop an attacker.
Byrnas great.after much research I purchased a tr 50. More joules, greater impact, about 1/4 the price.
Other than for someone whose background won't pass the standard background test, who in their right mind would use one of these as opposed to a real firearm (or pepper spray for non-lethal encounters)?
If it stops the attack *and* keeps you from going to prison for an illegal gun, it's a win-win. Also the SD is about half the price of a real firearm, and you can legally practice with it in your own home without going to prison for illegal discharge of a firearm within city limits and without paying hundreds of dollars a month to shoot at a private range. It's no good owning a firearm if you never practice using it. It's also great for people who don't live in "castle doctrine" states or have physical disabilities that prevent them from racking the action on an automatic pistol. It's also permissible to carry in a vehicle and on premises that ban firearms and in tons and tons of other situations where ending another person's life isn't the best answer.
I'm a military firearms instructor and I own plenty of guns and I'm thinking about getting one of these myself.
It’s mostly for little girls or people who prob shouldn’t have a firearm. I’m buying my daughter one
those pepper rounds or even worse oc cs rounds hurt like hell getting hit at close range and takes the fight right out of someone when they can't breathe without choking, coughing, gagging, and puking...and your eyeballs feel like they are on fire
The more I see gun owners get in trouble for defending their homes the more this makes sense
Using a toy dose not make any sense ???? Period. !!!! These thugs need to take the concrete temperature test !!!!!
@@davidgribble263 One has legal ramifications when pulling the trigger (THAT is a reality even in my 2A state of Texas. ) The other less lethal method allowed him to keep his family safe without legal rammifications. Its really your choice. I'm for both.
Cool 😎
Amazing story. My husband just ordered one for me. We live in Downtown Los Angeles. I'm an ER Doctor and work the night shift in an unrepresented part of town (by choice). As dedicated as I am to serve, it has its risks. My hospital's staff parking is two and half blocks from the rear entrance. The first 50 yards of which, are down a dark alley. If a security guard is available, he'll walk us to the corner. I can't carry a fire arm into the hospital, but having this will let my husband sleep again at night.
That's insane
That just sound ridiculous you need to be carrying an actual firearm
We can carry these in California? Stay safe cheers
@@caseG80 Yes. We can. I wanted the chemical/pepper projectiles. Those we can't get in CA.
@@BillyBob-op6lg I know myself. I can't take a life. Any perp would take my gun from me. I'm honestly safer without one. I have no issue at all with deploying a taser or lighting an attacker up with Byrna pepper balls.
And this equipment option is illegal in ca. guess what. Criminals use it. Where ever they want. Because they don’t care what the laws say.
commiefornia seems to love criminals....so be a criminal and get one
A regular can of OC spray is a far better option.
I just bought an S&W micro compact 9mm pistol for less than the price of the Byrna Kinetic. The Byrna would be less lethal. appears to not be classified as a firearm (yet) and likely would present fewer legal problems is used, but I can’t justify the cost.
Same here! U can buy the real thing that does real damage for half the cost of the byrna cannot bring myself to buy it yet.
funny you complain about the cost of a couple hundred bucks. Try paying the cost of attorney fees, time consuming court appearances, and a lengthy prison sentence lol. But oh yeah, you wanted to save a couple hundred bucks lol.
Been on the fence about getting my CC training and permit. This video convinced me that the Byrna is the way to go. Will be ordering one soon.
I know, a guy that has this!!...He, was robbed once and had his Car almost taken at traffic light!!...Well ,now the guy owns 2 illegal Firearms with Rounds!...😃🤣😅 He, Laughs about it alot..
Never take a toy to s gun fight !!!! You pull out a toy they pull out a gun ???????
When You Catch Your 1ST Body 😂😂😂
I have the SD and the LE. Always have one in the car or in a sling bag when I ride my bike. I do wish there were more holster options for the LE though. I also like it because a lawyer isn't necessarily sold separately.
does the LE have any more power than SD? been killin my brain tryn to decide which one to get, any thoughts?
LE-330 fps and SD-280 fps. LE magazine is larger too.
higher fps=more velocity.
how bout the larger co2, is that only for more shots or does it also add more "thrust" or "burst"?
i like the way the SD looks, but if the LE is substantially more effective then ill gladly sacrifice my vanity lol.
The LE is essentially like an SD with the extender for the 12 gram CO2. But, the LE is redesigned to give the longer range. You'll get up to 25 - 30 shots on a 12 gram in an LE if you're practicing.
I am so glad you and your family are safe. So glad your sister is safe!!! Thank you for sharing this story. I am trying to finish a planning class, and had not thought in terms of an industrial or urban defensive zone, like they urge for people in woodland interface areas. This guy couldn't have been homeless or 'just drugged out'- stalking like that takes planning and more than one person. One of the commenters said You Are the First Responder. Well, I have to change some ways and more lighting doesn't hurt either. Thank you for posting and sharing this. Stay safe and well you and yours.
Remember, the police are just minutes away, when seconds count...
I use high speed lead to protect myself and family.
This simply a choice, depending on the scenario. Because EVEN in my state of Texas... the end result scenario doesn't always come in our (2A supporters) favor.
Hope I'll never have our Byrna.In the meantime I'll be at my range.
Nice ending to the story. I would have handled it differently but good story!
The biggest issue when stopped is YOUR ASSIGNED STEREO TYPE. There is no such thing as "equal treatment" in the court's. The fact that a lawyer is needed in a courts tells me that the truth and righteousness have no priority with the people in those courts. "NULLIFICATION" , and the nullification of the constitution ( ignorance becomes a reason to excuse) ,ID laws are lawless laws, "life, liberty," is a reference to "LIFE" that is referenced in the constitution. Basically a Declaration of independence, thank you very much.
Question: So, are you having to puncture the co2 cartridge at the start of every day? Doesnt the co2 leak out over 24 hours? I am considering purchasing a BYRNA but it occured to me, having to turn the key to puncture the co2 during something dangerous might be extremely inconvenient. I know that some co2 guns puncture after the first shot, but from what I have researched online it doesn’t seem like the byrna can do this.
Yes it does puncture with the first shot !
You can leave the canister in there indefinitely right up until you pull the trigger.
When seconds count the police are only minutes away.
round 2 goes in the eye
at close range would most likely kill, but the eye is gone for good live or die
Something I cant wrap my head around is most people's disassociation from human life in typical gun cluture. Idk if its covid, or pilitics, or what. I turned to Byrna because we have a firearm in our safe, but the idea of taking life is as serious as crating one to us. Every man is a son, every woman a daughter, and just as likely a mother or father. (Or atleast they would be if their life were on track). I am not a Christian or a religious person, but everyone is important. Thats wny my Byrna LE will be my daily carry out of the house, and my first line within.
I'd much rather my family have their leader than be in jail cause my state sucks.
I believe there is a time and a place for an actual weapon and a time and place for less lethal such as Byrna. This story is a good example. You may never know what that other person is packing. You never know that with your concealed carrying either. They key point to this is just like with any weapon. RESPONSIBILITY and TRAINING. Knowing how to properly use the launcher and when to use it.
Handheld pepper aerosol/fogger can would have worked in this instance, at about $20 per can. Im just sayin', in case you cant afford a pepperball gun. Just be sure you get the fogger type to spray a vapor so the bad guy inhales the mist as this will drop him immediately with coughing fits. The stream spray version is useless for instant stop because it's not inhaled so much as with the fogger type. I've tested both on myself, and only the fogger type has instant knockdown. I do like the pepperball gun because you can use it at a greater distance, and you have visual deterence since it looks like a real gun, though i dont own one. Maybe someday.
Don't know where this took place. But you're lucky. That you were not charged with any crime. Your version has some real red flags in it. Like you've been in a lot of fights in your life. Why? And why did you go into the dark place, a locked door, in the first place? You could have called police. It sounds like you were opening yourself up to a problem instead of trying to avoid one. I am a CWW holder. And I understand what you did. But, it does go against my own training. And at least in California, some lawyer could see things differently if the 'homeless' guy sued you for using excessive force and maiming him for life. If it were me, which I understand it isn't, I'd consider this video being removed. Albeit I gather it works for you as a marketing tool. There are things in it that could get twisted to make it sound like you might have been a co-aggressor. Godspeed!